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The Taming Of Deluded 'Conspiracy Theorists'
Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum of Acting-Man blog,
Valiant Knight of Government-Approved Information Rides to the Rescue
Look who is warning us again about the great harm conspiracy theories are doing to the minds of impressionable citizens everywhere: Cass Sunstein has emerged at Bloomberg, to once again plead for 'correction' of the many conspiracy theories that are disseminated on that pesky new medium, the intertubes, seemingly without inhibition. Contrary to the infamous paper in which he described how to precisely combat the spreading of false information that lacks the government's seal of approval, he doesn't list his favored censorship and disinformation techniques outright this time, but it is certainly implied that 'something must be done'.
With regard to conspiracy theories, there is a long history of dangerous thought entering the minds of deluded citizens. There were people who long doubted the official version of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, or those who believed that the government's minions were capable of thinking up other 'false flag' activities such as 'Operation Northwoods', or the poor confused souls who argued that Iraq's 'weapons of mass destruction' were a trumped-up pretext for war based on thoroughly politicized intelligence, or the mean-spirited traitors who charged that the US military killed a Reuter journalist and his helpers in Iraq and then covered it up, or the completely delusional paranoiacs who asserted for many years that the NSA was literally recording everything. Next they're going to say that the official version of the WTC attack lacks credibility, in spite of its enshrinement as unassailable truth following the government's decision to investigate itself!
We incidentally even know of certain people who routinely assert that the scientific and utterly wertfrei monetary policy enacted by well-meaning central banks is harmful and favors certain groups in society over others! Surely such highly dangerous attempts to foment popular dissent need to be properly suppressed before they irreparably disturb the social harmony of the Collective.
Also, consider for a moment the honest and well-intentioned politicians and bureaucrats who advanced the schemes listed above in the national interest. It was only their self-less concern for our well-being that drove them to make a tiny mistake here or there. By accusing them of nefarious motives, the conspiracy theorists have undoubtedly deeply hurt their feelings. It is an outrage crying out for rectification.
What 'Needs to Be Done'
Cass Sunstein certainly knows what needs to be done to ensure that the geistige Volksgesundheit is maintained. The intertubes simply must be corralled to reduce the great harm all this conspiracy theorizing inflicts. In his 2008 paper 'Conspiracy Theories' written with Adrian Vermeule, he proposed the following eminently reasonable measures:
- Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.
- Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.
- Government might itself engage in counter-speech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories.
- Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counter-speech.
- Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help."
Surely number (1) would be most effective and help to conserve resources. But where would be the fun in that? Intellectual combat with the deluded masses is surely more satisfying. We are therefore informed that:
However, the authors advocate that each "instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions. However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5)”
We should be grateful that these social engineers are thinking up such excellent ways of protecting the already overloaded neural circuits of the citizenry. Incidentally, it seems actually quite possible that the NSA has heard about these useful proposals, considering that its agents “Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations” according to Glenn Greenwald. See, we are already protected!
As a result, have every reason to feel all 'snuggly and secure', as Mark Fiore points out in the video below, which nicely summarizes why we have absolutely nothing to fear.
Snuggly and secure! You have nothing to fear, citizen! As long as you have nothing to hide, are not blowing any whistles you treasonous leaker, or exhibit undue interest in the Bill of Rights.
Techniques of the Demagogue
Sunstein's recent Bloomberg article is quite interesting though in that it nicely demonstrates the demagogic techniques employed in advancing statist interests. One can immediately see that he has learned a few lessons from the push-back he received the first time around. As noted above, he refrains this time from telling us in detail what government should actually do in order to 'reduce the harm from conspiracy theories'.
He merely asserts that such harm exists, encouraging readers to think about how it might be reduced. He mentions in closing that 'we' need to “persuade the conspiracy theorists to find their way around to the truth”, but he doesn't say how.
Whenever an author invokes 'us', asserting that 'we' must do this or that, what he really means is actually that the government's apparatus of coercion and compulsion must be set into motion to attain certain goals the author approves of. In recent weeks we have e.g. heard that 'we' must bail out the Ukraine financially, or that 'we' must punish Mr. Putin and his henchmen with sanctions, but this is of course not a call to voluntarily engage in these activities. It is simply an announcement, informing us that those steering the government apparatus will do all these things. 'We' only figure in the sense that 'we' are going to pay for it all (and certainly not voluntarily).
So when Sunstein says that 'we' must 'help' those poor deluded conspiracy theorists, he is actually saying the same things he was saying before, only in a less direct manner. It means the government must intervene.
The other technique on display is the 'straw man' technique. Discussing conspiracy theories in detail, Sunstein deliberately lists many that can either be very easily disproved, or of which it can be assumed that most readers will immediately classify them as nonsense.
At one point he tries to assure us that his approach is evenhanded by conceding that a number of conspiracy theories have later turned out to be the truth, but he immediately reverts to his previous condescending tone, belittling those who show an interest in investigating government misdeeds. He lists three examples: the Watergate scandal, the CIA's MK Ultra program, and the fact that 'aliens have really landed in Roswell' - in other words, he only lists two examples and immediately downplays their importance by adding a plainly ridiculous third one to the list.
Degrees of Harm
It could even be conceded arguendo that Sunstein succeeds in demonstrating that harm is sometimes inflicted, as e.g. in the context of conspiracy theories surrounding vaccines (we actually don't know what these theories assert, not having delved into the subject in detail; however, the history of modern medicine certainly suggests that a great many scourges that have plagued mankind have been successfully vanquished with the help of vaccines).
So it may be true that there are a small handful of cases when belief in a conspiracy theory might actually harm those believing it. But so what?
Sunstein's proposals as formulated in his original paper (and we have no reason to believe that he has changed his opinion on these points) are infinitely more harmful. Life is never without risks, but the wrongheaded belief held by social engineers that the government must eliminate every last one of them by intervening in every nook and cranny of our lives can ultimately only end in tyranny.
The ubiquitous and all-encompassing surveillance state that has been installed to allegedly 'protect us from terrorists' is actually an excellent example of how extremely misguided these attempts to shield us from every conceivable evil are. The reality is in this case that the threat is statistically minuscule; as we have previously noted, more Americans die from drowning in their bathtubs and even from merely falling off a chairs than from terrorist attacks. And yet, no-one has proposed to spend tens of billions every year to keep tabs on the citizenry's evil furniture, at least not yet. The danger that the gathering of every last scrap of data will be abused is orders of magnitude greater than the danger emanating from terrorists.
Central bank policy is yet another example: the attempt to spare us the pain of economic busts only leads to even bigger economic catastrophes down the road. This has only recently been demonstrated when the interventions following the bursting of the technology bubble resulted in its replacement by the housing bubble. In the end, a far more painful recession than the one the initial intervention sought to mitigate resulted. The same principle will be demonstrated again when the current echo bubble bursts at some point in the future.
The Conspiracy Theory of History
Finally, it should be clear that what one might term a 'conspiracy theory of history' often comes a lot closer to the truth than the officially approved line that is taught in public schools. The one thing that should be clear to every astute observer is that governments routinely lie. They sometimes even admit it, such as JC Juncker did in his function as president of the euro group of finance ministers (this incident serves as an example of how brazen the ruling class has become in modern times; they don't even care anymore how transparent they are).
The fact that governments are lying routinely and are keeping a great many of their activities secret in allegedly 'free societies' is what provides the fertilizer for conspiracy theories. Even in the rare cases when governments tell the truth, many people are no longer inclined to believe them. Distrust of government is however not akin to a mental disease – it is rather a sign that one is alert and keeping one's eyes open. It is also a necessary and healthy approach that provides a small, but important contribution to keeping government abuses in check.
As Murray Rothbard pointed out:
“Anytime that a hard-nosed analysis is put forth of who our rulers are, of how their political and economic interests interlock, it is invariably denounced by Establishment liberals and conservatives (and even by many libertarians) as a "conspiracy theory of history," "paranoid," "economic determinist," and even "Marxist." These smear labels are applied across the board, even though such realistic analyses can be, and have been, made from any and all parts of the economic spectrum, from the John Birch Society to the Communist Party. The most common label is "conspiracy theorist," almost always leveled as a hostile epithet rather than adopted by the "conspiracy theorist" himself.
It is no wonder that usually these realistic analyses are spelled out by various "extremists" who are outside the Establishment consensus. For it is vital to the continued rule of the State apparatus that it have legitimacy and even sanctity in the eyes of the public, and it is vital to that sanctity that our politicians and bureaucrats be deemed to be disembodied spirits solely devoted to the "public good." Once let the cat out of the bag that these spirits are all too often grounded in the solid earth of advancing a set of economic interests through use of the State, and the basic mystique of government begins to collapse.”
(emphasis added)
And this, in a nutshell, is what is really behind Mr. Sunstein's concern with 'conspiracy theories'. It is all about preserving the State's perceived right to rule by letting nothing intrude on the notion that politicians and bureaucrats are 'disembodied spirits solely devoted to the public good' rather than people who pursue their own personal interests.

Former government advisor Cass Sunstein: still concerned about 'conspiracy theories'
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I don't try hiding (too much) on computers JC, I protect myself of course, but I'm not a scared or paranoid/depressive person. So I'm OK with free speech and truth being spoken as it is, anywhere, anytime. Not that I don't appreciate the role/need of relative anonymity like on zh, but I do know it doesn't really exist. If that gets me sanctioned or whatever, this is still not going to stop me. I don't buy the idea that what's said in here and similar has no effect (as some are keen to assert). Which is obviously not so on several demonstrable levels. If it had no effect then what are hysterics like Sunstein wobbling at the knees about as the psycho-stateist implementation of its' drone-mind fractures in the face of untenable dysfunction-inducing obvious contradictions and incongruities?
Oh let's double-down and manipulate, lie and illegally suppress and frighten even more!
They don't understand that the problem is them, and it will be resolved. This process will go on but they're not going to sweep-up the drone-mind again and stuff it all back under the carpet. Sunstein is the same censorship-loving oppressive offensive arrogant 1984-esqe utter ruthless scum as Erdogan.
I don't advocate exterminating them (though I won't shed a tear, they will reap what they sew) but I do intend to leave them no place to rest if they want to fight war to take and hold the mind of humanity.
That's a Sacred-site they're trammeling and there will be hardcore consequences.
if I recall its 6-8% of the population to awarken for the contagion effect to be created and that is whats feared the most - 8% infecting themselves with a sturdy thought of freedom (not French liberty) and thereby creating a shift of percepual control and/or relvolution.
Perhaps no need to hide if we hit that magical number....ooops forgot its now about creating global middle class consumers (not comparative lifestlyes) so that dashes down the concept of 8% national dissent- it gotta be global.
One missing fact of very importance–them Jews in camps were distant to be sent to Palestine. Nazi regime Since 1930 had sent over 175,000 jews into Palestine. Fact is Hitler’s men were very zionists. Up until 1940 Zionist USA controlled–funded the Nazi military.
What pissed off the German Jews? They did not know the scam between USA/Germany. 1932 Jews declared war on Hitler.
Real sad is–WWI WWII was all about creation of a homeland for the Jews in oil rich middle east.
USA was behind the whole affair
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I have always belonged to this school, even when I was a teenager, that Israel was only a proxy for OIL (CIA/MOSSAD),
Eventually the NEO-CONS will dump the ZIO-Con's, and let them be eaten by the angry masses.
Zionhead -any comments on the Boar war First concentration camps, resources grab and all that.....same anglo alliance but prior to a few other key elements you discuss.
The BOAR war was a 'fuck' no doubt, but I as you know live in CHINA,and all night I drink BAI-JIU (CHINESE RICE) whiskey, right now I'm being taken care of by a lovely, but I'm glad to return in the AM ( my time ) and address the BOAR war. :)
For Sunstein to mention conspiracy after the job he’s got? He’s the conspirator. There’s no question about it.
Among some of my distant ancestors are the names Woolsey and Cheney,
while I am a Conspiracy historian,
with political views much different than James Woolsey and Richard Cheney,
so don't lump everyone with the same name together.
There is hope in the younger generation to turn away from the sins of the fathers.
Just another New England liberal of jewish descent who needs to go away and eventually kike the bucket. Seriously, why do these fuckers feel the desire to stifle the free exchange of information?
Wideband electromagnetic cloaking systems| United States Patent 8253639
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/CCL-343-753.html
Just look at the IBM guy on plane. Then the other Chinese nationals and there patent on semi-conductor technology. Blackstone is the person you need to call to find the missing plane. You’ll have, a should’ve have a V8 moment.
Semiconductor test and process engineers; what the fock do they know about EM (electro-magnetics) and the embodiment of Maxwell's equations?
Nada ...
Had they been physicists or established, published MS/PHD level EEs involved in electromagnetics you might have some ground to 'run' on.
Instead, you are a living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Funny when I read Freescale bio it said 'consumer electronics', nothing about MIL
Fuck the bullshit, stick with the facts.
Obama-CHIP yes, Free-Willy Cloaking a big NO.
So using his logic to the judicial system one could say he is against the notion of "letting a thousand guilty go free in order to protect 1 innocent man be executed".
Cass denies conspiracy exists in government. Cass denies his government lies. Cass denies you cannot keep your doctor. Cass denies Crimeans self determination. Cass denies, therefore he lies.
I'd never seen a picture of the man (and I use that term loosely) before but he looks like a consummate tool; the kind who would serve society best by dying.
The government that needs to engage in counter-speech, besides spying on their own citizens, is a dictatorship.
Hardly a TOOL, this man is the most powerful man in America, and yes he holds the coveted DUAL-PASSPORT, and TEL-AVIV condo to flee to when he's done working in this shitty colony.
Cass Sunstein reminds me guys like Benjamin Franklin's time, the Oligarchs would be sent to the USA to manage, but they never liked being here, hell Spain unless your children were born in Spain couldn't even be considered elite in the "new world".
Make NO fucking mistake folks that Cass Sunstein and his AZC mobster friends see the USA as a Colony to be fucked in the ass, until every fucking nickel of wealth is gone, and then all are to become sex 'gimps' like Obama.
Obama is a 'tool' Hillary is a 'tool' Merkel is a 'tool'
Cass Sunstein is a "MADE MAN".
Hang 'em high.
Cass Sunstein is our greatest ally.
Is this one of those anti-semetic baiting articles? Because what I already know of Mr. Sunstein is pretty unflattering and this piece certainly doesn't do anything to raise him in my personal esteem. Is this guy an "American?"
Sunstein is a cunt. And he'd still be a cunt if he were Chief of the Name of Clann MacDuff.
But he's not not a cunt just because he's Jewish (and, a neocon Israel Firster warmonger)
Do you see?
He's a CUNT, because he is MEYER LANSKY with a law degree, now that is a scary fucking thought.
Take the most evil mobsters in all of USA history, and make them lawyers.
I will not even mention Hebrews, but allow me to say, if we cound GUILLOTINE every lawyer in the USA, or anybody that wants to be a lawyer, that overnight we would make America great again.
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Cass Sunstein is the "DON CORLEONE of AIPAC(AZC) on Steroids"
Not just a CUNT, but he is STALIN/HITLER's "DREAM ADVISOR"
"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."
- Goebbels
(Fair Game Godwin)
o/t but Satoshi, my good man, where have you gone to?
You seem to have disappeared from zh, and elsewhere....
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That's funny johnny they did ban me earlier today, but then changed their minds.
I'm trying to be good, I really am.
Look at it this way johnny,
It will not work with me, but for a lot of people this deleting/banning works and you can correct their thinking and speech.
Just saying that CASS SUNSTEINS dream of controlling dissent goes way beyond just paying INDIANS nickel's in bangalore call centers to talk shit.
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They definitely don't like anybody calling themself 'satoshi', but in truth I am satioshi :(
How many accounts have you blown through now, Zio?
Over a 100 on SatoshiXXX alone, ... Smedly Butler,
I thought zionhead sounded like ZH, but nobody seems to 'get it'.
first I thought that it was fight club, you know member get sent away on the first 500 apply's :)
France Sawyer lives :)
You're still filled to the gills with dissonant shit though. You figure that helps do you? Whatever clown.
Satoshi was on the Malaysian 777 ???
Without corrupt government there would be no need for conspiracy theories.
So Cass, considering that never before in the history of building construction has a steel high-rise completely collapsed due to randomly distributed "office fires," just how did WTC 7 drop directly and symmetrically into its own footprint at freefall speed? I and 2000 other architects and engineers would like to know. Really, we would. What laws of physics are you privy to that the rest of us obviously missed in our educations?
Cass, you're a putz.
Aliens didnt "land" in Roswell, they crashed, with wreckage coming to rest in more than one location. The Air Force claims the bodies found were in fact dummies dropped from high altitudes, except that those dummy "drop tests" didn't take place for another 5 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8VQwxF8gRQ&list=WL00E6EA94342E835D
Edited to add link
He certainly hates cows.
Ban KKiller
Sport - kick the the Zionist scumbags in the ass !
Zion ist subversives "persons" - stop them by turning off the juice $ to them.
i : man - attack them with "letters" when they "notice" us
Return their shit to them with "return to sender stickers "
Then laugh at them and their clever little games!
Good thing Im a conspiracy realist.
He looks like he is putting on a few pounds. Maybe he should try the chicken bone diet?
We must be getting closer to the One Truth: "They are nothing more than lying, stealing, killing and treasonous criminals."
"I may not be Confucius, but I know."
False flag operations are as American as apple pie.
Crackdowns are just as American
MH-370: Authority Refuses to Deny External Autopilot took Control of Aircraft;
SEPANG: The investigation team is going through the record call made by MH370 pilot, Capt, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, from the cockpit, reportedly minutes before the flight took off.
Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the phone call record had been submitted to the investigation team, together with information on the cargo manifest.
Explaining further on the cargo manifest, Ahmad Jauhari said the aircraft carried small batteries, but they had been approved and up to par of safety standards set by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO).
"They were not dangerous goods and had been packed as recommended by ICAO. We checked them several times to make sure the packing was right and were done in accordance of ICAO's guidelines," he told a daily media briefing on the search and rescue (SAR) operation at a hotel here, Friday.
Also present were Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein, Department of Civil Aviation Director-General Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman and the Prime Minister's special envoy to China, Tan Sri Ong Ka Ting.
Ahmad Jauhari said it was not unusual for airlines to carry such goods in the cargo, stressing that: "The goods have been flown by many airlines cargo. Airlines do this all the time, not only MAS."
Asked whether the Boeing 777-200 (MH370) was equipped with Uninterruptible Autopilot System that can prevent hijacking manually from inside, he said: "The aircraft is equipped as standard. There is nothing additional on the aircraft."
Meanwhile, Hishammuddin said the investigation by international intelligence agencies on passengers and crews, including the pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah and co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid came back with nothing unusual.
On the simulator found in Zaharie's house, he said: "We have forwarded the information to international parties for fast verification.
The Inspector General of Police (Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar) might be able to comment on the latest development."
Hishammuddin said they had no information on a housewife's claim that she spotted an aircraft partly submerged in the water off Andaman Islands when returning to Kuala Lumpur after a pilgrimage to Makkah on the same day it was reported missing.
The Beijing-bound Boeing 777-200ER aircraft disappeared about an hour after leaving the KL International Airport at 12.41 am on March 8.
The aircraft with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board was scheduled to arrive in Beijing at 6.30 am on the same day.
A search was mounted for the aircraft in the South China Sea but the area of the search was extended to cover a large tract west of Malaysia, including the Indian Ocean.
It was learned that the aircraft had veered off course after someone deliberately switched off the communication system on board, and it flew for seven hours after that.
The search then focused on two corridors, namely the northern corridor which stretches from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, and the southern corridor, which stretches from Indonesia to southern Indian Ocean.
Boeing announced on 3 March 2007 the existence and deployment of the BOEING UNINTERRUPTIBLE AUTOPILOT. Boeing stated then that by end of 2009 all Boeings would have the BUAP.
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So to answer the question of Malyasia, did this plane have BUAP? Yes it did.
UAS: Malaysia the PRESS is demanding to get answers about the "Uninterruptible Autopilot System" in the West NOBODY is asking this fucking question. CONSPIRACY of SILENCE? FUCK YES
Missing MH370: Plane carried batteries as cargo, nothing unusual ...
The Star Online?
Asked whether MH370 was equipped with Uninterruptible Autopilot System that can prevent hijacking manually from inside, he said: "The aircraft is equipped as ...
Pilot's phone call from cockpit before flight probed Daily Express
Pilot';s last phone call before take-off being probed – Bernama MSN Malaysia News
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/when-did-truth-become-conspiracy-theory.html
When Did Truth Become a Conspiracy Theory?
By Joseph Ephraim, July 12, 2013.
“conspiracy theorists” ???
"The term was invented and put into wide circulation by the CIA to smear and defame people questioning the JFK assassination! The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time. In other words, people who use the terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed, historically-real conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination."
http://www.thrivemovement.com/news-flash-cia-invents-conspiracy-theory.blog
Embedded inside that article is a link to a copy of the declassified document about how "conspiracy theory" was promoted by the government through mass media.
http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html
CIA Document #1035-960
RE: Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report
"1. Our Concern. From the day of President Kennedy's assassination on, there has been speculation about the responsibility for his murder. Although this was stemmed for a time by the Warren Commission report, (which appeared at the end of September 1964), various writers have now had time to scan the Commission's published report and documents for new pretexts for questioning, and there has been a new wave of books and articles criticizing the Commission's findings. In most cases the critics have speculated as to the existence of some kind of conspiracy, and often they have implied that the Commission itself was involved. ...
3. Action. ...
b. To employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose. The unclassified attachments to this guidance should provide useful background material for passing to assets. Our ploy should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (I) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories. ..."
http://www.paulchefurka.ca/GuardianInstitutions.html
The Guardian Institutions of Hierarchy
By Paul Chefurka, July 22, 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDADLpg1UXo#!
Starting at about the 5:30 mark into that video, Mark Crispin Miller discusses what he found out when he was researching his 2005 book, Fooled Again. The most interesting point that he made is that there is a DECLASSIFIED CIA document, from back in the 1960s, which explicitly states that they directed their operatives in the mass media to use the derogatory "conspiracy theory" style argument, in order to discredit theories about the assassination of President Kennedy.
I love the irony that it can be PROVEN that the use of the pejorative "conspiracy theory" phrase was itself adopted as a result of a real conspiracy between the government and mass media in the 1960s, when they first began to do that!
Of course, decades later, everything is WAY WORSE, and still getting worse at an exponential rate, which means that we are near the next couple of doubling times into democidal martial law. Of course, there is NO beginning to the history of false flag attacks ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erZ2YidTZp4
The Art of War by Sun Tsu
The success of war being based upon deceits is as old as human history, and indeed, were probably practiced back when there was no written history. However, there IS a beginning to the Federal government of the United States of America, and that reality has a relatively well-documented history, IF one wants to try to learn more about that.
The political processes are already almost completely corrupt. Election frauds have become rampant, and nothing can be done about that kind of paradoxical double-bind Catch 22 kind of problem. (Which again relates to why the few people who wake up still yet can not do anything which is practical and realistic about these kinds of runaway social insanities.)
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/counter-intelligence-shining-a-light-on-black-operations/
Intelligence – Shining a Light on Black Operations
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/12/313399/conspiracy-theorists-vs-govt-dupes/
Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDADLpg1UXo#!
Why Is 9/11 Such A Taboo Subject?
We Have To Ask Questions About 9/11!
That is a video interview with an expert about election fraud (which the mass media has tended to deliberately ignore) who speaks about investigating where the mass media's uses of the phrase "conspiracy theory" came from, or rather when that kind of public relations attack first became the primary public relations, propaganda responses. Not surprisingly, that first happened to deal with the stories about the assassination of President Kennedy, which, I believe, was the original act of murder that was behind the history leading to 9/11 mass murders!
Anyone who seriously takes enough time to look into history realizes that we are on an exponential growth curve of dishonesty, backed by coercions, which has become runaway systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. Furthermore, there are no reasonable ways to avoid the conclusion that the American democratic republic is already practically dead, (like all the other fake democracies in the world are already practically dead.)
IT IS THE SUCCESS OF CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS, AND MOST OF ALL THE SUCCESS OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS CORRUPTING GOVERNMENTS TO GIVE AWAY TO PRIVATE BANKS THE POWER TO MAKE THE PUBLIC MONEY SUPPLY OUT OF NOTHING AS DEBTS, WHICH HAS DONE THE MOST TO DESTROY "DEMOCRACY!" Pretty well all the significant political events in the world today are about building fascist police state powers to protect the interests of the runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut systems that the international bankers have made behind the cover of bullshit "democracy." Democracy has been almost totally destroyed by successful conspiracies. The degree to which that has already been accomplished made any alleged "democracy" nothing more than a cruel joke!
What Cass Sunstein's comments are demonstrating is the degree to which there have been generated irreconcilable social polarizations, which are being amplified by the Internet making it possible for millions of people to learn more of the radical truth about history. Anybody that is willing and able to spend the time to do enough research can sift through the available information to discover that just about everything happening can be best explained if one perceives that governments are the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals.
So far, the people waking up to those social facts are not able to achieve any political changes with respect to their discoveries of the degree to which "their" governments have become almost totally treasonous. So far, the only things happening are that the available information, such as on Web sites like Zero Hedge, are pumping up the apparently irreconcilable social polarizations between people who still believe various official stories, versus those who no longer do.
Good post RM, but just maybe expecting reform of this system is not the answer nor even desirable. There is a clear division in people's minds between what they know is right and sane, and what they want, but don't even need.
i.e. greed
The system just leverages and feeds this lust, jealousy and desire for wants, with the good old traditional "Temptation" process of cerebral amplification of want, using propaganda and advertising repetitions (but I repeat myself), and the greed intensifies and wins within the majority, and then the right and the sane can (democratically) go to hell.
And thus it does.
Well, element, we are perhaps back to the issue that, after one faces the social facts, what kind of attitude does one take towards those facts that, as you wrote, "the greed intensifies and wins within the majority."
Here is a Ted Talk that reviews the statistics about the funding of the political processes in the USA, which seems to be about the most unrestricted runaway form of your observation anywhere in the world that I am aware of:
http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_we_the_people_and_the_republic_...
I have spent 30 years working on that problem in the Canadian context, where the situation is not nearly as bad as it is in the USA. However, despite the eloquent, emotional appeal in that Ted Talk, my conclusions were always the same, that "nothing can be done about that kind of paradoxical double-bind Catch 22 kind of problem."
It is easy to come up with ideal lists of things that should be done. However, given the realities of the roles of money in the political processes, and the runaway vicious spirals of the relationship between the money and political power, "expecting reform of this system is not the answer," since it ain't going to happen!
What has actually happened is the almost perfect realization of a Bizarro Mirror World, where the government is lying about almost everything important. One could pretty well throw a dart at a dart board with a word cloud of what governments are saying, and be practically guaranteed to hit something where there was a conspiracy at work making that happen, since there is almost nothing that the government is doing which is not based on legalized lies, backed by legalized violence.
The title of Cass Sunstein's article was "Everything's a Conspiracy." Due to the influence of the vicious feedbacks between the monetary system and political power, that is a FACT. There is almost nothing which is able to operate outside of the established monetary system, and that system itself is the greatest single example of the reality of conspiracies, such as has been well-documented about how the Federal Reserve Board was enacted.
I have never studied any social issue, such as from the Profit from Disease System, or the Profit from Junk Food System, and so on and so forth, where the influence of money on politics has not resulted in sets of policies which serve special interests, while screwing everyone else. In the short-term, those who benefit from the screwed up policies become more wealthy, and so, even more powerfully able to continue to fund politics, far above and beyond those who are being screwed. Since there is no political issue which is not deeply influenced by the funding of the political processes, and the monetary system itself is the most totally corrupted system there is, there is hardly anything which is not operating within a conspiracy.
There are no realistic ways to change the runaway systems of political corruption: "the greed intensifies and wins within the majority," while the society as a whole becomes terminally sick and insane. As we have discussed before, element, I am not aware of any other means than developing one's macabre sense of humour to cope with discovering the degree to which the government has become runaway organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, which are therefore acting in ways which are degrading civilization, as well as destroying the natural world as a whole.
I don't see any connection between facts and attitudes. This is an imaginary linkage to me. But on a more practical level and example, in science it's recognized that attitude has no valid relationship or place regarding the verity or otherwise of observational data. It is you who approached the observation with the emotional attitude that is you. I look at that same world and data and have no such emotional attitude disturb me. That's all that's going on there.
As I have run a couple of small businesses (though don't now) I will just point out that what you describe is business (making a 'profit', i.e. access to material resources and status) in a political economy. It is not impossible for people to apply themselves and succeed in business, people do it all the time in very large numbers. Now that is indeed all about attitude, mostly the refusal to accept that you will or can fail, it is a tight-rope walk where you don't look down, you just keep walking and wowing the crowd.
In the end what you describe is all just a symptom of the interior mess.
If you don't fix the interior the exterior can never get straightened-out from its distortions.
However, you insist you want to fix all exteriors, without ever examining if that is possible, through government.
It isn't.
Every human has to fix their own interior, individually, and on their own, otherwise the exterior can never sort itself out.
However, the individual can become impervious, via that interior process, to the exterior symptoms, of all those who have not worked on their interior mess.
That is what I'm telling you.
Now the problem with that, is this; the Govt deliberately tries to prevent that self-rectification of the mind of individuals, while claiming to promote individual freedom, which is perhaps Govt's greatest lie of all time, for example:
Hence we get highly-educated and informed (conditioned) human drones, who do not act for their best interests, but are indirectly and remotely-controlled and piloted by an exterior organizational infrastructure that's dedicated to the control and direction of the human mind.
Government particularly does not like independent minds to operate or exist. Government, by implication and purpose, claims and asserts that your mind is the government's defacto drone, its property and territory, its domain and that it has the sovereign right to 'fix' any misbehaving 'drone' mind, and to tweak it to perform in the compliant and desired ways, and to amplify the correct thoughts, and to suppress and avoid the undesired thoughts.
Thus a form of effective mind-control is more or less achieved within most people.
So if you go about undoing the internal damage that was inflicted by the G O V E R N M E N T, (which they don't even accept they're responsible for deliberately creating) they then pop-up to say a load of moronic fascist crap like the deviate Cass Sunstein is now doing again.
A true Developed World is where people ignore the emotional trap and manipulations of the exterior gobernomentis's trail into insanity, and instead go inside and actually develop - beyond thinking. Despite the regular false-claims of gobernomentis, a Developed-World full of actually developed people has never existed.
It is the express purpose of gobernomentis to ensure that a Developed World never develops.
It is not your job to sort other people out and propose to 'fix' the world, that's what gobernomentis pretends to be able to do, and never does, or will, or can. Government is a limited facility, and at best an excuse to bring flagrant evils in to the world, and to demolish the capacity for human beings to live sanely.
Your job is to sort you out so that you may actually be in a position to help others understand what has happened so they might also develop, and thus go completely beyond this ridiculous political and social melodrama. So, you can stubbornly fester on all this for another thirty years, and get absolutely nowhere, or you can use the time and health left to you, to set straight the mess inside, and end that pain. I could say it in other ways, and apologies for this verbal brutality, but the end result is you have only you to blame, if you keep doing the same thing with the same result.
Resistance is futile. :)
brilliant, element, one of the reasons i read ZH.
Truth is what Cass Sunsteins say's is truth,
What is not permitted, is forbidden.
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A person that can for a moment think that his government could kill its own president. Is a forbidden thought.
A person that can for a moment think that his government could kill its own citizens. Is a forbidden thought.
Well these thoughts can't be tolerated, yet history is full of story's of USA assassination of mortals and politicians by the 'gubmint'.
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All of Sunsteins solution's are soft, tax, banning sites, disruption, which is really telling is the hard tactics that have gone un-mentioned.
In all history the 100 monkey is the best example of 'solving' this problem, 'conspiracy theorists' should be drawn&quartered in public, that would solve the problem.
Free speech my ass, AmeriKKKa never tolerated 'free speech', talk to Emma Goldman in 1917, about free speech.
Voice of Russia Confirms that CIA stole the Airplane,
Why the conspiracy of silence?
http://voiceofrussia.com/us/2014_03_20/MH370-Pilots-May-Not-Have-Flown-P...
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No news on earth outside of RUSSIA or MALAYSIA are touching this subject, this is telling.
US Officials DEMAND that SEARCH be Restricted to Indian Ocean
[ If I were told by the CIA to ONLY LOOK in the Indian Ocean, I would certainly look in the other places. ]
Whatever the reason, it’s good that they’re widening the search. There’s the old Sherlock Holmes saying, “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” I don’t know if I fully agree with that philosophy, because sometimes we eliminate what we think is ‘the impossible’ and have to go back and recognize that it wasn’t so impossible after all. Suffice to say, that still warrants a widening of the search on the slim hope that survivors may yet be found.
Microsoft's Most Expensive BLUNDER in history ... computer error. That is, the plane hijacked itself.
To understand how that could be possible, let’s refer to the report from ABC News, Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately, US Officials Say:
The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder — which transmits location and altitude — shut down at 1:21 a.m.
This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.
U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were “systematically shut down.”
That means the U.S. team “is convinced that there was manual intervention,” a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.
They may be convinced that there was manual intervention, but in fact manual intervention may have been the one thing that wasn’t involved in the incident. It may have been that the computer systems aboard the aircraft decided to commandeer the aircraft in such a way that the pilots could not retake control. It sounds insane, yes, but as a matter of fact the Boeing Airplane Company has developed and patented a system to do exactly that.
According to an article published back on 3 March 2007 in the London Evening Standard, New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible:
Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite technology.
It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the discretion of pilots.
The so-called ‘uninterruptible autopilot system’ – patented secretly by Boeing in the US last week – will connect ground controllers and security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global satellite positioning systems.
Hey Sunstein, please explain?
by Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww_z6Teynow
*Warning! Stefan Molyneux is a "cult" leader*
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Most cults in history, were ran by the Gubmint.
MH-370 is actually the 6th plane since 2007 that the CIA has snatched for their study's in learning about their new anti-terrorist toy.
To understand the history of electronic remote capture of airliners go to youtube and search [ boeing uninterruptible autopilot ]. Then if you want to hear what Russia allows to be broadcast select youtube [ voice of russia field mcconnell ]
As of 1112 EDT today, 19 March, 2014, the most information specific to the remote capture of Malaysian flight 370 is available at abeldangerDOTnet and ensure you spell abel as abel not able. Look for a radio show link at the coffee chat.
Airline Pilots Association [ALPA] the pilot union that has understood the existence of the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot since 11 December, 2006 and yet they have not shared this information with their pilots. A felony? Yes, I think so.
These 5 airliners have been remotely snatched since the alarm was sounded: Adam Air 574, Kenya Airways 507, Air France 447, Sukhoi Superjet 100 and MH370.
The first four were crashed; MH370 is safely on the ground at [ redacted ] and when the truth comes, ALPA may not be popular with other aviation safety entities around the world.
One can use the scientific method to debunk conspiracy theories. For example,
You watch a video of the World Trade Center Building 7 collapse (you know the one untouched by the planes) and note:
1)The top floor falls at the rate of free fall (the same time a brick thrown off the roof would take to reach the ground)
2)The building forms a symmetrical debris pile.
What can explain such observations?
Timed demolition of explosives starting at the bottom floor and working its way up to the top, allowing each floor to collapse without impedence (momentum transfer) from the floor below slowing it down.
Now draw you own conclusions regarding the governments "story" of a collapse caused by jet impact. Not too credible, Eh? I think we all know the government is often the source of the real conspiracy theories-but they are just so lame!
"What can explain such observations?
Timed demolition of explosives starting at the bottom floor and working its way up to the top, allowing each floor to collapse without impedence (momentum transfer) from the floor below slowing it down."
Except that no timed explsions were seen, starting at the bottom floor and making their way to the top.
Your Ignorance is your Strength
http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
Everything you ever wanted to know about the 9/11 conspiracy theory in under 5 minutes.
Except if there are explosions correctly placed & detonated the only sight is from the inside where you don't want to be, and, no one saw anything else impact building 7. 2 planes, 3 buildings: the famed skybowling 9-11 split.
MH370 part of US attack on China?
flight MH370 plane vanished after US spies kidnapped passengers to get secret information out of them about secure Chinese data.
It was reported that in 2009 China installed a secure operating system known as “Kylin” which was unhackable from the outside.
Now it is believed that the only way US intelligence can get data from the server is through word of mouth.
This has led to many online jumping to conclusions that the missing plane was a target for the US intelligence agency NSA.
Jim Stone, former NSA agent, posted: "No matter what lies get spewed now, the truth is as clear as day below – America is going to war... and China secured it’s data.
"America kidnapped key people on flight 370 to extract secrets to once again allow the NSA unfettered access to Chinese data."
The revelation comes after thousands of people spent days looking for the missing Boeing 777 after it went missing almost two weeks ago.
After disappearing on its flight from the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, China, investigators and the world have been baffled by its sudden disappearance.
Kylin: New Chinese Operating System
If the NSA couldn't crack it,then they would kidnap the developers...
China has developed more secure operating software for its tens of millions of computers and is already installing it on government and military systems, hoping to make Beijing's networks impenetrable to U.S. military and intelligence agencies.
The secure operating system, known as Kylin, was disclosed to Congress during recent hearings that provided new details on how China's government is preparing to wage cyberwarfare with the United States.
"We are in the early stages of a cyber arms race and need to respond accordingly," said Kevin G. Coleman, a private security specialist who advises the government on cybersecurity. He discussed Kylin during a hearing of the U.S. China Economic and Security Review Commission on April 30.
The deployment of Kylin is significant, Mr. Coleman said, because the system has "hardened" key Chinese servers. U.S. offensive cyberwar capabilities have been focused on getting into Chinese government and military computers outfitted with less secure operating systems like those made by Microsoft Corp.
"This action also made our offensive cybercapabilities ineffective against them, given the cyberweapons were designed to be used against Linux, UNIX and Windows," he said.
Is this real, or yet more cybersecurity hype pushed by agencies looking for funding and power? My guess is the latter. Anyone know?
Conspiracy Theory in Realtime
Then in China this is what they're saying ....
A Malaysian official involved in the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has contradicted public claims from the Malaysian government by saying that its military knowingly and continuously tracked the plane on radar for more than an hour after communication with ground control was severed in the early hours of March 8.
The anonymous air force official told Chinese web portal Tencent that despite initial claims that they could not be certain, the Malaysian military knew very well that the plane they were tracking on radar was flight MH370 and followed it as it climbed above the Boeing 777's approved altitude of 45,000ft and took a sharp turn to the west before descending unevenly to 23,000ft on the approach to the island of Penang. The plane then climbed back to 35,000ft and headed northwest towards the Indian Ocean, with the final reading showing it above the tiny island of Pulau Perak in the Strait of Malacca at around 2.40am.
Though they had known this all along, Malaysian authorities did not reveal this crucial information until March 15, a week after the plane's disappearance, the official said. It also meant that Malaysia knew from the beginning that the plane — if it had crashed — was likely in the Strait of Malacca region on the west side of the country as opposed to the South China Sea on the east side, where dozens of ships and aircraft from other countries searched fruitlessly for days, the official added.
The first public announcement made by Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya on Saturday morning was that the plane had remained in contact until 2:40am, but the timing was subsequently changed to 1:20am, just as communications was being handed over from Malaysian air traffic controllers to their counterparts in Vietnam.
It has since been revealed that the plane's transponder was "deliberately" switched off at 1:21am and that it had completely vanished off Malaysian civilian radar screens at roughly 1:30am. But if the official's claims are to be believed, then Malaysian authorities knew exactly where the plane was and what it was doing for another 70 minutes.
The official's revelations about Malaysia's knowledge about the flight's true last point of contact are also consistent with why Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director-general of the Malaysia's Department of Civil Aviation, said "there are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't" when explaining why the search was being expanded to the Strait of Malacca on March 11. In fact, the official said, Malaysia had been secretly searching that region all along.
Meanwhile, the number of countries involved in the search, as it enters its ninth day, has expanded from 14 to 25 and will take in large tracts of land crossing 11 countries as well as deep and remote areas of ocean. The new focus comes after the Malaysian prime minister, Najib Razak, declared Saturday that satellite "pings" received nearly seven hours after takeoff placed flight MH370 in two possible flight corridors: one between Thailand and Kazakhstan, and another between Indonesia and the southern Indian Ocean.
Another Malaysian air force official told Tencent that flight MH370 could have flown west as far as Somalia or north past Thailand and Myanmar to the southern part of Mongolia. The chosen flight path would have been close to the borders of several countries, where radar detection is relatively weak, the official added.
Whoever among the 239 people on board that hijacked MH370 must have been very familiar with the geography near Malaysia as well the capabilities of both civilian and military radar, the official said, adding that it is common knowledge in the aviation industry that both Somalia and southern Mongolia are places that do not require government permission to perform a landing. Somalia is effectively in a state of anarchy due to civil war, while Mongolia has several secret airports providing safe landing strips for smugglers, the official added.
Just know this, friends and foes.
The Brotherhood
is real.
And it is very smart, and it is very, very angry.
everyone lies, so why would not people in govt. lie?
bunch of hypocrites!
yet again, another article designed to appeal to the "conspiracy minded" schizoid personality and positively confirm bias.
what is the end goal of this communication signal?
clearly, at least 3 members of ZH want to be and/or sympathise with manchurian candidates.
Kass SunStein - Konstitutional Skolar and Kosha Nostra Kapo
Lord, we beseech You: Deliver us from this self-righteous, overbearing, insufferable, meddlesome Judaic - who claims to know what's best for all of us, in all circumstances, all of the time.
And Deliver us from his war-mongering, harridan, lying spouse, Scumantha Powers
Jos. Goebbels has got nothing on this luantic m-f'er.
See also Chuck Schumer's proposed law.
Nothing to see here folks...just the hook nosed bolshevik rat faces doing what they do best-destroying the world.
Malaysia may be under CIA control?
[ Recall that said 'cia agent' is the father in law of the said 'pilot', also we learn at this hour, pilot made call's on his cell phone prior to take-off ]
Accusation of Anwar Ibrahim as a CIA agent
In July 2010, he had, along with Information Minister Rais Yatim, accused Anwar Ibrahim of being a CIA agent based on a blog article. However, Hishamuddin admitted the Home Ministry “doesn’t know if Anwar is a tool (of the CIA) or not”. This revelation was not based on any evidence, as he admitted, but on an article by an American blogger. Mysteriously, he added that “action” would only be taken if “national security” was threatened although espionage, i.e. working for a foreign intelligence agency, is a crime.
According to John Malott, a former US Ambassador in Malaysia from 1995 to 1998, this was not the first time UMNO made these accusations. In 2000, he had dealt with these allegations when the Malaysian government failed to prosecute Anwar. This time round it seems the government is unwilling to prosecute too. “Today, twelve years after I met with Abdullah (Badawi, who was then Foreign Minister), Malaysia still has not offered any proof that Anwar is an American agent – because it is NOT true,” he wrote. Malott also accused the Malaysian government and various media of disseminating false news.
CIA say's search everywhere except Diego Garcia ... ummm
Malaysian Airlines website.
“Hi, I’m the US secretary of Defence and I’m here to help you find your missing plane. We’ve processed and refined the inmarsat raw data to provide you with what we’d like you to understand. Any questions? Don’t hesitate to ask. Unless, of course, it relates to Diego Garcia.”
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The fox is helping hen's find the missing chick, you gotta love this shit,... truth is stranger than fiction.
however, the history of modern medicine certainly suggests that a great many scourges that have plagued mankind have been successfully vanquished with the help of vaccines).
Once you decide, as you put, delve into the subject of vaccines, you will learn that statement is a complete and utter fabrication, and there is absolutely NO evidence vaccines work as intended. It's a huge fraud people!!!
There is ample concrete evidence the opposite is true, and people being harmed on a massive scale. Why don't you just start with the ingredients, and ask your self a question, do I want that crap in my body. And seeing how the loving Goverment cares so much about the people's health. Think about what could be in those vaccines that are not listed.
Wrong! Perhaps a member of the flat earth society would conclude that vaccines have caused more harm than good. They have eliminated smallpox throughout the world, polio in the U.S. and soon in the rest of the world. Only a moron would see the bad in vaccines.
That's right, just call me names like the shill you are. Do you have any proof to back up your claims shill?
DON'T BE TAKEN IN! There is no such person as "Cass Sunstein". He is only a government manufactured persona, created to trick the gullible and to discredit legitimate conspiracy theories. It is no accident that the letters in his name can be re-arranged to spell "no-such-person". (sort of).
I suppose that Jonathan Kay's execution of Sunstein's marching orders should be examined here:
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/03/21/jonathan-kay-911-truther-richard-gage-is-a-preacher-to-a-dying-breed/
Part of Sunstein's plan? http://politicalvelcraft.org/2014/03/20/10th-suicided-death-of-a-jpmorgan-banker-brother-to-investigator-of-jp-morgan-found-dead/
i had a very good friend who went to Yale. He was truly brilliant. I went to a state school. we were very good friends and while i am smart, he was no doubt smarter than I. One time I asked him what he thought the biggest difference between us was. He summed it very easily, "Yale taught me to think critically, ask questions and never take anything for face value."
whenever you listen to a TRIBESMAN, rememeber this ! - we, gentiles, are only LIVESTOCK for them.
We are NOT any kind of 'partners' 'friends' or even 'opponents' for them. We are the ANIMALS , and if we oppose - then we are REBEL ANIMALS.
Vote for the other guy, not the incumbant.
From one who follows actual conspiracy data, the latest on Flight MH370:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/21/mh370_new_inmarsat_data_narrows_missing_airliner_s_flight_path.html
(Pay attention to the final paragraph, please.)
The narrower range of possible flight paths reduces the number of plausible scenarios and suggests avenues of investigation. For instance, some have speculated that whoever was at the controls might have flown out over the open ocean, turned left and headed toward the southern arc in order to avoid passing through any areas of military radar coverage. That route is no longer possible. If the plane did travel south, its path should be detectable on stored Indonesian military radar returns.
"LOOK SOUTH", ... "GO SOUTH"
The fact's are the plane was allowed to fly 6+ hours afer it dissapeared.
It dissapeared at 1:22am and Malaysia authority's didn't alert the system that a plane was lost until 7:41am.
That 6-1/2 hours would have been plenty of time to go to KAZAKHSTAN ove myanmar.
Having not activated the system NOBODY was then looking for the plane.
This entire show is/was orchestrated by MALAY/USA government.
Blaming the pilot for being the son-in-law of a CIA is telling, when in fact IMHO its the GUBMINT that is working with the CIA in this operation.
Pity the familys, and look at the fucking CHINESE NAVY wondering around in the southern oceans, when in fact everybody should be looking NORTH,
Unless "EVERYBODY" is in on this?
There is a depth to the level of bs that people will buy. I am interested in noting the conditions surrounding the tipping point. If I'm asleep when it happens (and it will happen), please wake me even if it's not my watch.
MH-370 plot thickens, plane dissapears at 1:22am, but ALARM didn't go off until 7:41am, when the plane landed some place that nobody can be told. Everybody is involved in the cover-up, and only the family's are getting fucked and hard.
CIA say's look anywhere but Diego-Garcia, USA say's "Let us be in Charge"; Every ohter country on earth play's stupid and silent.
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The disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 which left Kuala Lumpur International Airport for Beijing Capital international airport on March 8, 2014, has left me puzzled and disillusioned.
Although I don’t want to believe lot of bizarre theories doing rounds, I feel overpowered with a feeling that what followed the disappearance is not exactly a genuine investigation.
It is more of a massive cover-up operation.
I am saying this because the handling of this unfortunate mishap has been murky right from the beginning.
MH 370 left Malaysia at 00:41. The Last Malaysian ATC voice contact happened at 1:19. The pilot said: “All right, good night”. At 1:22 the transponders of the plane went off. At 1:30, the pilot of another plane contacted MH 370 on the request of the Vietnamese ATC. The contact was established but the pilot could only hear mumbling and static. This was the last live contact reported. The last automated hourly ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) handshake with Inmarsat satellite reportedly took place at 8:10
The flight was scheduled to arrive at Beijing at 6:30 am. But the Malaysia Airlines announced at 7:41 that the flight MH 370 was missing and that the search and rescue operations were initiated.
According to some reports and technical data provided by engine manufacturer Rolls Royce based on its ACARS data from the flight, MH 370 was aloft about 4 to 5 hours after the transponders went off. But these reports were challenged by Malaysia.
Then there were reports about two of the passengers flying on stolen passports and insinuations that it the disappearance could be an act of terrorism. But again there were counter reports claiming the two men were more likely to be asylum seekers than terrorists.
What I feel is that when there is an investigation at such a high level with so many parties – governments, defence establishments, aviation experts – the clues and the data must converge. If this does not happen it clearly means that one or more of the parties are either hiding data or providing false data.
But why would that happen?
The most plausible and logical reason is that “something” powerful doesn’t want the truth to be out as it would severely damage “its” interests.
If the safety of the passengers and the crew were paramount (which should be the case ideally), the alert should have been sounded at around 1:22 when the transponders went off. Instead the world ostensibly came to know about it at 7: 41 i.e. more than six hours after the transponders went off.
From the very beginning any theory pointing to the technical, mechanical or communication glitch has been quickly rebuffed. Everything was “absolutely perfect” about the aircraft and the aviation technology. Instead the theories of “situation beyond the human control” have been aggressively pushed.
Is this what we have achieved with globalization, and telecommunication revolution?
No. I firmly believe that technology today is powerful enough to have possibly averted the mishap in the first place and also to have searched the plane after the disaster struck.
Unless, the technology was not intended to be used that way.
Why? It may be because some people have decided that it is in the best of the interests of this world to never know about it.
"Mr. Cognitive Infiltration" publishes a new book on those crazy conspiracy theorists.
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-842-new-world-next-week-with-jame...
And of course he's a Jew.
His 'Jewishness' is no more important than whether he has a penis or a vagina.
He is AIPAC, he is the Don Corleone of AIPAC, he's the guy that help OBAMA Author "US CONSTITUTION 2.0".
He's the ZIONIST's ZIONIST for all USA, he's the Zionist's top-dog lawyer. He's the husband of Obama's USA Ambassador to the UN.
He's the most powerful KINGMAKER in the USA over AIPAC lackeys who hold all public offices in the USA.
He is GOD, but his Jewishness is fucking irrelevant.
He is the GOD of all Kleptocrat's on Earth.
Cass Sunstein is the Prince of Evil. Someday he might even become the King of the WORLD.
Israel Rip's Malaysia for Failing to Report Missing Plane for +6 Hours
Think about this, plane dissapeared at 1:22am and it was not until 7:48 that Malaysia announced to the world that they had a lost a plane.
Singapore and CHINA are fucking PISSED.
The Sunday Times (ST) said questions had been raised on whether Malaysia alerted its neighbours when the aircraft disappeared so that they could protect themselves in the event that it was a hijacking and their countries were targeted.
If the flight was hijacked, they told the daily, many others in the region – including Singapore – might have been at risk of a terror attack.
A former senior Israeli counter-terrorism and aviation security officer in the Israel Security Agency, Doron Bergerbest-Eilon, told ST that aeroplanes were part of the arsenal of global terror and a missing aeroplane could be a sign of a mega security attack.
Any country that loses sight of one of its aircraft must alert other countries, he said.
"Was this done when the aeroplane went missing?" he asked.
"Imagine an aeroplane that has taken off in another country landing on Orchard Road. An aircraft is in the hands of a pilot and he could have been incited or motivated. He could take things into his own hands and do something like this."
Bergerbest-Eilon told ST that this was a plausible scenario after what happened on September 11, 2001, in the United States when al-Qaeda members flew hijacked aircraft into buildings in New York and Washington, DC.
"In recent years, air piracy and terrorism have come together in a series of parallel events," he told ST.
Counter-terrorism expert Rohan Gunaratna from the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) told the daily that the MH370 disappearance was a "turning point in aviation security and a catalyst that will force governments in Asia to enhance aviation security".
MH-370 Now the French have Found "Garbage" at Sea,... when will it all end :(
Who would have figured? "Garbage at sea, ...let's see for 100+ years the oceans of the world have been garbage pit's and now the most expensive technology known to man has found garbage at sea.
Note the CIA is silent, they don't want anybody to know their 'power of garbage ID".
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-malaysia-france-images-20...
Why is Israel silent? They have the best data-collection in the world?
Funny the USA reports "Wood Pallets", and Israel is silent.
But the French, yes the French,...
Is anybody looking up towards Kazakhstan? Any boots on the ground?