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30 Survey Results That Sound False But Are Actually True

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

You will be shocked at what some Americans actually believe. 

For example, close to 90 percent of us believe that we are eating a healthy diet, and yet more than third of the population is officially obese.  65 percent of all Americans say that they are dissatisfied with the government, and yet nearly a third of us would be willing to submit to a "TSA body cavity search" in order to get on an airplane. 

As you will see below, Americans are angrier and more frustrated with government and with their lives than ever before, but we also exhibit almost unbelievable levels of sloth and apathy.  Some of the numbers below are quite funny, and others are absolutely stunning.  But they all say something about who we have become as a nation. 

The following are 30 survey results that sound false but that are actually true...

#1 According to a recent Rasmussen Reports survey, 52 percent of Americans "do not think the economy is fair to those willing to work hard".

#2 70 percent of all Americans do not "feel engaged or inspired at their jobs".

#3 According to another recent Rasmussen Reports survey, 59 percent of Americans believe that "less government involvement in the economy" would help reduce the size of the income gap in this country.  (And those 59 percent are actually correct.)

#4 20 percent of all government workers and 26 percent of all Obama supporters consider the Tea Party to be "the biggest terror threat" that America is facing.

#5 Approximately 30 percent of all American workers have $1,000 or less saved up for retirement.

#6 A worldwide survey conducted by the Worldwide Independent Network and Gallup found that 24 percent of people around the world consider the United States to be the biggest threat to peace.  Pakistan was in second place with just 8 percent.

#7 60 percent of Americans report feeling "angry or irritable".  Two years ago that number was at 50 percent.

#8 36 percent of Americans admit that they have yelled at a customer service agent during the past year.

#9 29 percent of Americans believe that "cloud computing" involves an actual cloud.

#10 A survey of employers that currently pay minimum wage to at least some of their employees found that 38 percent of them would start laying off employees if the minimum wage was raised.

#11 One survey found that 56 percent of Americans believe that it is okay for the government to track "the telephone records of millions of Americans" in order to keep us safe.

#12 When George W. Bush was president, 61 percent of Democrats considered NSA surveillance to be "unacceptable", but now that Obama is in the White House, only 34 percent of them consider it to be "unacceptable".

#13 67 percent of Americans support the use of unmanned drones in "homeland security missions" inside the United States.

#14 One survey found that 51 percent of all Americans agree with this statement: "it is necessary to give up some civil liberties in order to make the country safe from terrorism."

#15 Close to one-third of all Americans would be willing to submit to a "TSA body cavity search" in order to fly.

#16 65 percent of Americans are dissatisfied "with the U.S. system of government and its effectiveness".  That is the highest level of dissatisfaction that Gallup has ever recorded.

#17 Only 8 percent of Americans believe that Congress is doing a "good" or "excellent" job.

#18 70 percent of Americans do not have confidence that the federal government will "make progress on the important problems and issues facing the country in 2014".

#19 According to a survey conducted by the National Geographic Society, only 37 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 24-year-old age range can find the nation of Iraq on a map.

#20 Close to 25 percent of all Americans do not know that the United States declared independence from Great Britain.

#21 Right now, 29 percent of all Americans under the age of 35 are living with their parents.

#22 According to one survey, 24 percent of all U.S. teens that have a sexually-transmitted disease say that they still have unprotected sex.

#23 Approximately one out of every five teenage girls in the United States actually wants to be a teenage mother.

#24 The percentage of Americans that "believe there are signs that aliens have visited Earth" is actually higher than the percentage of Americans that believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

#25 According to one recent survey, only 35 percent of all Americans say that they are better off financially than they were a year ago.

#26 It is hard to believe, but 56 percent of all Americans are considered to have "subprime credit" at this point.

#27 89.7 percent of all Americans believe that they are eating a healthy diet.  Meanwhile, approximately 36 percent of all Americans are obese.

#28 44 percent of all Americans do not have a first-aid kit in their homes.

#29 48 percent of all Americans do not have any emergency supplies stored up at all.

#30 53 percent of all Americans do not even have a 3 day supply of nonperishable food and water in their homes.  What will they do when a major crisis or emergency strikes?  Do they actually believe that the government will swoop in to save them if something happens?

 

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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:26 | 4590118 withglee
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Let's do some calculus:

Fine. Calculate the integral of DEFAULTs since 1913. Calculate the integral of INTEREST collections since 1913. Subtract INTEREST for DEFAULTs yielding INFLATION. Differentiate INFLATION to deliver the "true" INFLATION rate over time. How does it compare to "reported" INFLATION?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:49 | 4590222 Tall Tom
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Come on...I answered your question above.

 

Tell me what a logarithim is.

 

Then compute dP/dt.

 

If you cannot it is okay. At least you solved my initial question. Most here could not even do that.

 

But just tell me that you do not know. It is okay not to know.

 

The entire subthread was created as a response to someone, Inbetweenispain, who ridiculed the existence of God without knowing Mathematics. That initial poster did not even have the balls to respond.

 

Oh...And FUCK THE FED. I am all too aware of the Unrepayable Exponentially Growing Debt which will bring about the collapse of Western Civilization.

 

And I cannot deny the Mathematics...as the innumerate can, and do, when it concerns the Economy, or, the existence of the Creator.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:00 | 4590313 withglee
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I told you what a logarithm was. How that relates to god is beyond me. And exponentially growing debt (i.e. trading promises in progress) is no problem if you have an exponentially growing number of traders, or an exponentially growing amount of energy put into making and delivering on trading promises. Debt is just another word for "undelivered trading promise ... or trading promise in progress". People are being confused by Ellen Brown's "Web of Debt" where she ignores DEFAULTs and says INTEREST makes it impossible to pay off debt. Ridiculous! Governments are continuous DEFAULTers leaving more than enough money for traders to pay their INTEREST (more exactly by the amount of INFLATION we experience). Where you have a problem is with a mismanaged medium of exchange resulting in inflation which causes a distorted view of trading promises.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:32 | 4590391 Tall Tom
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No. You did not tell me what a logarithm is.

 

What is a logarithm?

 

In your solution, t = log P/log(1 + r), which is correct, why is t expressed as a logarithmic function? (Hint: It is the same answer.)

 

And I disagree that you can have Growth in Debt in all cases as there is a Boundary condition.

 

If the differential of Growth in Debt (a differential with respect to time) to the Growth of Revenue (as a result of population and productivity and also a differential with respect to time) is greater than one then it will follow that Growth in Debt is not sustainable and collapse will ensue.

 

One must look at the differential rates of growth. Furthermore since the Earth is an adiabat, a Closed System, then there is decay in available resources, a depletion of available resources to sustain productivity.

 

That is where the Calculus is required to understand the underlying factors.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:20 | 4590692 withglee
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Here's what I wrote earlier:

A logarithm is a domain change allowing you to do multiplication and division by addition and subtraction. Exponentiation is accomplished by multiplication in the logarithmic domain. Returning to original domain means exponentiation of the logarithmic base (usually 10 or e) by the result.

Was that not satisfactory?

Re. exponential growth of debt: Somehow I missed your qualification of "without a corresponding growth of revenue from population or productivity growth" (paraphrased). So, you have asserted the obvious. If you make trading promises you can't keep, you will default. I don't know about you, but I have never made a trading promise I couldn't (or didn't) deliver on.

And I gave you the calculus problem that needed to be solved (i.e. cumulative defaults less cumulative interest collections yields cumulative inflation, the derivitive with respect to time of which is the "true" rate of inflation ... calculated with no reference to prices whatever). The trouble is we don't know defaults ... and never have, thus proving the MOE has never been properly managed.

What we need is a PID control algorithm that takes DEFAULTs-INTEREST as an input and adjusts INTEREST collections such that this difference perpetually drives to zero ... guaranteeing zero INFLATION.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:55 | 4591665 Tall Tom
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That was really a poor obfuscatory complex definition which serves to confuse and not bring any light.

 

A logarithm is an EXPONENT. That is all that it is.

 

In the equation P = (1 + r)t notice that t is the EXPONENT. That is the reason that the solution is a Logarithmic function.

 

Because t is a logarithm.

 

log 10 = 1

log 100 = 2

log 1000 = 3

log 10,000 = 4

 

Likewise 101 = 10

102 = 100

103 = 1000

104 = 10,000

 

Notice that the exponents are equal to the logs.

 

Some people will take the most simple concept, the most elegant concept, and make it into a bunch of meaningless gobbledy gook because they have not the clue of the genius of simplicity.

 

Oh everything written was true. But it failed to reduce it to its most basic and elegant definition.

 

I hope that you read this as the discussion is now buried.

 

As to your last paragraph that is how ideal Keynesianism was designed. But the neo-Keynesians have not the discipline to make that a reality.

 

Even John Maynard Keynes is rolling in his grave as his "Theory" (actually his plan as Theories describe observed and verifiable phenomena) has been perverted and politicized.

 

But concerning Economics I am more interested in how it actually works than that of implementing plans.

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 17:55 | 4591809 withglee
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As to your last paragraph that is how ideal Keynesianism was designed. But the neo-Keynesians have not the discipline to make that a reality.

Even John Maynard Keynes is rolling in his grave as his "Theory" (actually his plan as Theories describe observed and verifiable phenomena) has been perverted and politicized.

But concerning Economics I am more interested in how it actually works than that of implementing plans.

It's been a long time since I completely dissected and annotated JMKs "General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money" (if you're interested I'll send you a chunk of the work) but I defy you to show anywhere in there that he makes the obvious connection between "money" and "a promise to complete a trade". I defy you to show anywhere in there that he relates INTEREST collections to DEFAULTs or discuses the obvious expression INFLATION = DEFAULTs - INTEREST. After dissecting his book I've refused to read another thing he has written. And it's obvious from the title that he fails to see that employment has nothing to do with management of a Medium of Exchange (MOE) ... i.e. money and interest and defaults.

Re. your explanation of logarithms: I'm surprised you didn't go into a derivation of "e" and get your rocks off on that too. There we no flaws in any of my replies to your comments and tests. You sound like an academic. Glad I didn't have you for an instructor.

And what is it about the "works" of Economics you refer to? I've said nothing about plans. I just described the obvious princples of proper management of any MOE. Call it economics ... call it addition and subtraction ... call it a plan. Who cares. It's a trivial exercise that is not the least bit difficult to understand ... unless you are laying out subterfuge. Once you know how simple it is, the amount of smoke you see people blowing is absolutely stunning. Get INFLATION of the MOE to zero and keep it there and all that other nonsense goes away. Don't do that and you can't predict or control anything.

 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:24 | 4601626 MeelionDollerBogus
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Your question is fallacious by being so one dimensional. Having multiple media of exchange solves the problem for you with no central controllers to fail to use enough measurement to get inflation right or worse, have incentive in lying. Any management of the medium of exchange or a central interest rate would by default be centralized. Let there be no stated, declared MoE nor a method to manage it. Let people use their own best choices and whatever's a bad choice will just stop being used pretty quickly.

It's that simple. Given the very different physical properties of what's been used, and used a long time as medium of exchange I'd say you can't just decide to manage 'the' MoE by deciding you know precisely which medium it should (or shouldn't) be in advance as this changes the dynamic of how useful it is & where, not just non-monetary goods or services that are paid for using MoE units.

If you want a stable MoE let goods me those media of exchange. Any combination. Time will progress to what's easiest given a long-term history of problems trying something else, maybe empty promises (bonds) go bust, maybe something in frequent need & easy to procure (say, bricks) are poor for other reasons (pockets+bricks=fail).

What kind of MoE could you possibly imagine that won't step over every person's toes if managed by someone else as the very means that currency can exist much less how it's being used 'on' everyone?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:17 | 4601621 MeelionDollerBogus
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First bold statement, literally & figuratively: logarithms are EXPONENTS. WTF? That's like saying multiplications are divisions. They are inverse operations. Are you losing track of your own train of thought, how do you think this actually looks later?

Listing off examples with powers of 10 didn't in any way improve on the definition you're arguing with. The point was made clearly the first time.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:10 | 4601614 MeelionDollerBogus
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And your assumption is busted, down to the level of "is it, is it really?"

"One must look at the differential rates of growth. Furthermore since the Earth is an adiabat, a Closed System"

Funny, last time I checked everything in this 'closed' system is under the influence of things beyond the gereral boundary of Earth, like, gravity from the moon, photons & sometimes plenty more from this sun, our heavy elements were clearly made in fusion events of other stars...

it seems to me that's a funny definition of 'closed' or maybe just a very bad assumption that when broken, breaks your entire concept in half.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:57 | 4588833 LetThemEatRand
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Ozero times any numeral is still zero.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:29 | 4588766 are we there yet
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For the age of the universe in dog years multiply 5000 by 7In religious years multiply it by 3 million or so.  In stupid years pick your own multiplier.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:32 | 4589209 Tall Tom
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The Universe is actually 25 Billion to 40 Billion Years. That age is not measured by what is images of light but but that which is dark.

 

Cosmologists are prone to confuse images with objects. The Universe is also holographic. Ones whom are incapable of understanding the Mathematics are incapable of understanding the Universe. From the Quantum Level to the Macro Universe the story of the Singularity is contained within because of the holographic nature.

 

And I write to people whom cannot understand basic, fucking Algebra?

 

Oh what BLIND FAITH that you have in your denial of Creation and the Creator which only smacks of the same Religion which you despise, thou hypocrite.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:11 | 4589634 Flakmeister
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Thank you Zen master...

\facepalm...

I must have missed those papers you wrote about how the recent Planck results were wrong...

Would you like to show your calculation of the multipole moments for the CMBR?

And how they compare with observation?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:47 | 4589975 Tall Tom
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Flakmeister...They are using a flawed model. The Hubble Model is flawed. The Planck Constant is not incorrect. But the confusion arises as they are using the Visible Galaxies and the Doppler Shift to measure the age. The problems which we face is that there is a confusion between objects and images.

 

Doppler Shifting can be caused by reflection. The Echo is an example of that in sound. The images of the Galaxies are reflected upon the fabric of Space Time. They are IMAGES which can be actual Objects expanding away from us. Or, conversely, through the Gravitational Lens Affect, they can be reflections upon reflections upon the fabric of Space Time...echoes of the past.

 

My model considers the visible Universe is much like peering into a child's kalideoscope.

 

So what I have done is to consider that the Black Body Radiation curve is the holographic signature of the Singularity contained in all Energy. Since most matter is dark I have used that equation, with the Wavelength Axis denoted as a Time Axis. I have done an Exponential regression to obtain my results.

 

My model solves the problem of the "unexplained acceleration" as what they are viewing is an Exponential Extinction.

 

I have not published it. I may never do it.

 

People as yourself, Flak, are the reason. You deserve to walk around without knowledge.

 

You cannot think outside of the box. Where is the creativity in that?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:25 | 4590412 Flakmeister
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You just sealed the deal...

You are now officially a member of Zero Hedge Science Whackadoo Club...

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Just for shits and giggles...

So what value should the Planck Constant be?

If you use your "correct" value what are the predicted wavelengths for atomic Hydrogen Balmer Series sprectral lines? How do they compare with the measured value?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmer_series

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BTW, this is the Planck I was referring to:

http://planck.caltech.edu/publications2013Results.html

and in particular

http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.5076

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:44 | 4590488 Tall Tom
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Nice strawman argument.

 

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PLANCK CONSTANT. I wrote that in my first response. I will repeat it.

 

THE HUBBLE MODEL IS FLAWED. We have known that for quite some time. First...When the Universe began its initial Inflation it was ACCELERATING. What force acted upon the Universe to stop the acceleration????

 

The Hubble Constant is a constant slope of a Distance- Time plot. It is a VELOCITY.

 

What force acted upon the Universe to bring it into constant velocity? (...that is a Nobel Prize if you can answer it. Of course there IS NO ANSWER.)

 

The MODEL IS FLAWED. So since the Model is flawed a competent scientist either modifies the model or abandons the Model.

 

I have chosen to abandon it altogether because of that problem amongst others.

 

My model solves those problems but at the cost of the current accepted age. It is very elegant.

 

Do not worry. I will never publish it because of dishonest people as yourself. (Your use of the Strawman demonstrates your duplicity.) I will take it to the grave and allow you to walk in a Land of Confusion.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:20 | 4590697 Flakmeister
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I misread your line about the Planck constant, mea culpa...

Doesn't change anything, you are a classic example of Dunning-Kruger fueled buffoon...

Psst... Ho is merely the current value and it is not a constant through the history of the Universe... 

BTW, how do you know it was accelerating? What experimental evidence do you have?

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Classic whackadoo behaviour on your part: "I won't publish because people are dishonest"...

You couldn't get your shit published if your life depended on it....

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 17:19 | 4591770 Tall Tom
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It is considered accelerating as the Doppler Shifts of the Balmer Lines are not uniform at the most distant images.

 

You know...Delta Lambda/Lambda = v/c

 

We plot that onto the Chart and we can see an observed change in slope which means an acceleration. 

 

Furthermore I do not believe that Planck's Constant was due to any change. 

 

You are mistaken about my inability to submit papers to Journals for Peer Review. So you can attempt to politicize this. I do not put that past you or your ilk.

 

But I will not publish because of people like you. I will not invest into America because of people like you.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:33 | 4591874 Flakmeister
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Yawn, all I see is a continuous torrent of pseudo-scientific word salad and jibberish...

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Psst, you better get cracking on that model of yours...

Between SNAP, WMAP, PLANCK and just this past week BICEP2 you got a shitload of data to test your very own private little Cosmology against...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:10 | 4588268 Tall Tom
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One third of Americans obviously do not understand the term "Body Cavity Search".

 

If the TSA were to attempt to do that to a preteen or teenage girl then I would have no options but to wage war. And I am anti war. 

 

Sometimes I think that this type of story is posted to get people extremely angry. (It worked.)

 

We are in a World of Hurt.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:31 | 4588347 A Lunatic
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Study to become painkiller, for a time not so far away.........

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:39 | 4588367 besnook
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i think a body cavity search is a cry for human touch....of any kind, in this no need for people tech world.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:06 | 4588502 underman
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Close to one-third of all Americans would be willing to submit to a "TSA body cavity search" in order to fly. 

New fetish for the sexually frustrated?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:13 | 4588275 The Wisp
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Common Sense is Not Common...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:14 | 4588278 insanelysane
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Repubs want to regulate what goes on in the bedroom and Dems want to regulate what people eat.  If I have sex in my kitchen and eat unhealthy food in my bedroom will both parties leave me alone?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:34 | 4588353 are we there yet
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Liberiterians let you Eat or be eaten in your bedroom?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:20 | 4588567 Calmyourself
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One of the best lies EVER.. Republicans don't care what you fuck if its over age and can agree fuck it, Of course I am not  Republican but i used to be and did not give a shit at that point either ignoramus..

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:14 | 4589366 Grouchy Marx
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Never heard any Republican saying they want to regulate what goes on in your bedroom. Unless of course you are making a phone call and then both parties want to know what you're saying, and the IRS will investigate you if you say 'Tea Party'.

Nonetheless, given your description of your preferences, I will decline the invitation to dinner at your house.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:29 | 4589640 Flakmeister
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Ask the Cooch about Virginia sodomy laws....

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:14 | 4588281 icanhasbailout
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I don't find a problem with girls who want to be a teenage mother, as long as the plan is to have a father around and start building a family early in life. If the plan is to leverage the kid for welfare benefits, however, she deserves a bullet to the head.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:21 | 4588309 insanelysane
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Minors can get an abortion without their parents' consent because they have a right to choose.  Yet go into most high schools in the US and you will find bottled water and healthy snacks as the only options in vending machines because the school board will tell you that teenages can't be allowed to choose between soda and water and candy and granola bars because they make bad choices.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4588325 insanelysane
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And my favorite.  The school health people don't have to disclose to the parents that a teen is pregnant but they send home "fat" notices.  But what if your child is fat because they're pregnant?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:44 | 4588485 ebworthen
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"The penis is evil!"

Zardoz, circa 1974:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:31 | 4588343 Omegaman2211
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Actually she just deserves to not get welfare. If there was no government welfare system then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:43 | 4588395 A Lunatic
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That hardly seems fair. You make it sound like she should be punished for not being responsible.......

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:03 | 4588479 mt paul
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strange days..

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:16 | 4588283 fonzannoon
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29% of americans under the age of 35 are living with their parents? That's it? we are kicking ass. We still have about another 20% to go before we are close to reverting to the mean, which europe represents.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:17 | 4588291 insanelysane
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The NSA can look at anything they want because citizens shouldn't worry if they have nothing to hide.  Cops in Arizona can't ask suspicious people what their immigration status is because that violates their rights (but shouldn't they not worry if they have nothing to hide?).

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:18 | 4588299 Caveman93
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Time to leave! CYA!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:31 | 4588345 RafterManFMJ
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In my mind, I'm long gone.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:24 | 4588319 Pascal1967
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Very first one is bullshit. This economy being FAIR?!? WTF?? Try again Snyder.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:29 | 4588339 Omegaman2211
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Better yet, don't try again Snyder. Ever.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:32 | 4588350 RafterManFMJ
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YOU WON'T BELIEVE THE 39 REASONS SNYDER SHOULD NEVER, EVER, TRY AGAIN!!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:25 | 4588322 q99x2
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They don't need supplies if they have good weapons.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:27 | 4588332 i_call_you_my_base
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America just doesn't collectively value intelligence. But in a society that isn't a meritocracy it actually doesn't have value.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:28 | 4588335 Omegaman2211
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WHADDYA KNOW ITS MICHAEL FUCKING SNYDER AND ANOTHER FUCKING LIST.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:34 | 4589438 Grouchy Marx
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Whaddya know it's another guy who can't locate the CAPS key to turn it off.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:37 | 4588357 ATG
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#33

 

How the RNC kicked the grassroots Pauls to the curb and will do so again

 

http://usnvrepcan.blogspot.com/2014/03/how-paul-family-were-shut-down-by...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:22 | 4588360 are we there yet
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I read that some of the people that watched the Superman movie 'man of steel' thought his plot character was based on a character in the bible. These surveys, survey odd people.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:41 | 4588386 Bunders
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"...more than third of the population is officially obese." ... "...nearly a third of us would be willing to submit to a "TSA body cavity search" in order to get on an airplane."

Same third? Hoping, maybe, that the TSA might find a misplaced mars bar or hot pocket into the bargain. Would they be willing to submit to a T&A body cavity search even if they weren't getting on an airplane?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:42 | 4588389 Son of Captain Nemo
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What we already knew long before Ed Snowden and his paypal mentors came along on how to "boil the frog"!...

#11 with at least 56% of this Country finding it to be just swell means the conditioning seems to be working out quite well...  Why all the fuss about punishing Ed when we knew all along the American people would come around to agreeing with their overlords sooner or later?

Maybe the largest amount of praise should go to Big Pharma... I think the meds help make everything better!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:44 | 4588398 Homernomics
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#17 Only 8 percent of Americans believe that congress is doing a "good" or "excellent" job.

 

So then why the hell do they keep electing them??  Wake up people, its not just a blue and red world!

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:51 | 4588433 edotabin
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Correct! It is red, WHITE and blue.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4588484 El Vaquero
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"So then why the hell do they keep electing them??"

 

*Puts on sheeple hat*

 

Well, it's all those congress critters from other states.  MY critter is good!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:18 | 4589841 Flakmeister
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Gerrymandering makes it damn well near impossible to flip seats and the primary system is flawed...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:14 | 4589265 MassDecep
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The elections are rigged and have been for quite some time. Your vote DOESN"T count. 

Ask yourself and research , who tallies the electronic votes? Wake up sheeple.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:24 | 4589867 Flakmeister
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Your vote counts, it just doesn't matter when gerrymandering results in a foregone conclusion...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4588425 Oleander
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A scary percentage of Americans also believe that mermaids are real. They found the mermaids in the ocean near Greenland.

It was on Aninal Planet so it must be true.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:53 | 4588430 ebworthen
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#29 and #30 should take care of most of the odd outliers in the population.

It will be much easier for me to find a job when there is 51% less competition.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4588496 Yes_Questions
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#4 20 percent of all government workers and 26 percent of all Obama supporters consider the Tea Party to be "the biggest terror threat" that America is facing.

 

and 100% of tea baggers feel the same about the workers and supporters.  

 

What a fucking joke.

 

News Flash:  The Tea Party are Republicans.  That's it.  Nothing to see there..

 

 

 


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:24 | 4588586 Calmyourself
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Another ignorant fucking leftist with no idea who pays the bills.  One day that will become crystal clear dumbass..

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:28 | 4588608 moneybots
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#3 According to another recent Rasmussen Reports survey, 59 percent of Americans believe that "less government involvement in the economy" would help reduce the size of the income gap in this country.  (And those 59 percent are actually correct.)

 

The government is suppressing the economy.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:21 | 4589398 Grouchy Marx
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In some ways, the government is doing just that: a) excessive regulation, b) propping up private industries that can't make it on their own, c) not enforcing anti-trust legislation, d) supporting the interests of multinational corporations over domestic corporations, e) allowing one-sided enormous trade deficits to continue... and on and on.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:36 | 4588631 ramacers
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God, what a depressing post.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:43 | 4588656 A Lunatic
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Be of good cheer my friend, there's always........nope that's gone too. Never mind........

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4588643 moneybots
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 #16 65 percent of Americans are dissatisfied "with the U.S. system of government and its effectiveness".  That is the highest level of dissatisfaction that Gallup has ever recorded.

 

Obama is fundamentally changing the system, to its detriment.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:17 | 4589384 Grouchy Marx
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The scary part of that statistic is that 35% must be satisfied. Does that match the statistic for illiteracy?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:47 | 4588667 snblitz
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Even the smart guys are pretty dumb.

Most americans and US geologists think oil comes from dead dinosaurs and dead plants. 

Most US physicists refuse to admit the plain and easily repeatedly experiments of Quantum Mechanics which show that neither space nor time exist.

Most americans and US doctors think HIV causes AIDS.

Most americans, the US government, and US doctors think a high carb diet is good for you.  These same people think fat is bad for you.

I could go on, but what is the point?

The end is not coming soon,  it will be a long slow decline.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:00 | 4588945 Cthonic
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Keep thinking outside the Grassmannian.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:32 | 4589886 Flakmeister
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Could you explain that Quantum Mechanical thingie for us? We are all ears...

Between that and your abiotic oil plug, I think we can safely place you in the wingnut category...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:57 | 4588695 Spungo
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I'm surprised how many people know where Iraq is. I really don't give a fuck where it is. I think it's next to Iran and Kuwait, but nobody cares about those countries either.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:58 | 4588698 dexter_morgan
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If true, the survey results regarding giving up freedoms and liberty for 'safety' means that we are fucked beyond even what I imagined. 60 years of destroying the educational system is paying off big time for TPTB now.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:29 | 4589421 Grouchy Marx
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You hit the nail squarely. When I read those items that relate to a lack of understanding of the Constitution, then everything else makes perfect sense. Without the Constitution (we really have two now - the original, and the fiat one that changes daily), we are heading to a balkanized, chaotic squabble of competing entitlement interests that will rip us apart. We are halfway there, I think.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:08 | 4588724 Downtoolong
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#8 36 percent of Americans admit that they have yelled at a customer service agent during the past year.

98% of those 36 % admit that it was because the rep was a Pakistani with a fake Texas or Southern accent pretending to be an American.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:22 | 4588754 esum
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if 5 years of the 1D10T wimp in the WH didn't wake people up.... nothing ever will..... 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:31 | 4588778 esum
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51% of amerikans think wearing a condom gives you safe sex. it doesn't. my friend was shot and killed by the woman's husband while searing one. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:15 | 4588960 El Vaquero
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OK, that was funny.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:06 | 4589026 Bear
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Searing ... does that hurt?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:47 | 4589056 trader1
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you will be shocked by what michael snyder believes:

Michael T. Snyder states on his contact page that he is an undergraduate in Commerce from the University of Virginia, and possesses a law degree with an LLM (legal emphasis, not stated) from the University of Florida law school. He has supposedly worked in "numerous Washington DC lawfirms", but quit to live outside of Seattle and rage at the world through the internet. Or as Snyder puts it "now I mostly focus on trying to make a difference in the world."

He also states very clearly "I am a Christian, but I believe that most of the churches in America have gotten way off track." Snyder has recently posted a statement of faith[1] in which he states that he believes that the Bible is literally true and that Jesus is coming down in person soon to start the end times to punish all the non-believers.[2] After which Jesus will start his thousand year reign over Earth.

Otherwise Snyder is very tight lipped about himself, which makes it hard to find out what drove him mad.

nyder has created a new blog recently where he attempts to interpret the Bible called What The Bible Says About...

Considering his older signs of insanity claims to fame, this blog doesn't disappoint. It is filled with the same writing style and format, along with headers leading people to buy books by other fundamentalist cranks. Great topics include:

Christians can drink, but if they feel any effects of alcohol it's a sin.[11]

We are all lawbreakers of God's will. Including loving anything more than God at any time, done anything on the sabbath, not honored your mother/father completely, ever hated or anger towards anything/anyone, or lusted after a women (even thinking, including your own wife).[12]

He equates anyone who hasn't accepted the word of God like he has equivalent to rapists, murderers and child molesters.[13]

Snyder states divorce is only acceptable if there is adultery or if one's spouse is not Christian. This does not include abuse. He states it is "because God knows best".[14]

Snyder is against homosexuality, and all sex outside of marriage. He does state first and foremost one thing that stands him out from the pack of fundamentalists, in that people should still love gays like every other one of Gods creations.[15] So, y'know, at least there's that.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_T._Snyder

 

but that's ok...maybe he's just pandering to his target audience.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:25 | 4589407 Grouchy Marx
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So, we are to discount the article because of the man's religious views? So someone who is religious cannot have valid economic opinions, or adequately aggregate poll results from reputable sources, as he has done here? (I checked a few, not all, but they look legitimate.)

Your ad hominem attacks say more about you than the author. Burr up your butt?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:35 | 4589922 Flakmeister
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Nope, tabulating people views which are derived from the Bible is fair game...

It gives you an estimate of their intellectual honesty.... 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:49 | 4591664 Grouchy Marx
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Of course. Because if you ever need absolute honesty and the unadulterated truth, you should ask any athiest.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:35 | 4592995 trader1
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atheists are normally known for critical thinking and asking questions, which is a good thing.

however, they still miss the big picture.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:58 | 4593005 trader1
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no ad hominem here.  

what people say/write/do should be understood in context with their worldview.

what's unclear is if snyder is just playing a mask to make money off his customer base or if he's really serious about a rapture and the second coming.  

it could even be both!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:49 | 4589059 trader1
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Collective attention in the age of (mis)information Delia MocanuLuca RossiQian ZhangMàrton KarsaiWalter Quattrociocchi (Submitted on 13 Mar 2014)

In this work we study, on a sample of 2.3 million individuals, how Facebook users consumed different information at the edge of political discussion and news during the last Italian electoral competition. Pages are categorized, according to their topics and the communities of interests they pertain to, in a) alternative information sources (diffusing topics that are neglected by science and main stream media); b) online political activism; and c) main stream media. We show that attention patterns are similar despite the different qualitative nature of the information, meaning that unsubstantiated claims (mainly conspiracy theories) reverberate for as long as other information. Finally, we categorize users according to their interaction patterns among the different topics and measure how a sample of this social ecosystem (1279 users) responded to the injection of 2788 false information posts. Our analysis reveals that users which are prominently interacting with alternative information sources (i.e. more exposed to unsubstantiated claims) are more prone to interact with false claims.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.3344

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:46 | 4589148 El Vaquero
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Yet you can prove that the BLS is full of shit and mainstream media in the US ignores some topics outright and leave out pertinent facts that would change the narritive.  You want the real answer?  Go to the primary source, and hope somebody isn't lying to you.  Return to the basics.  Who where, what, how and why, and if you can, verify that shit.  While I will not simply believe a conspiracy theory because it is contrary to the mainstream views, I will acknowledge that more and more conspiracy theories are becoming conspiracy facts.  You should ask yourself, who decides what is a false claim and what is a true claim. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:30 | 4589227 Grouchy Marx
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a) and c) are partly contradictory - the MSM is either reliable or not; cannot be both.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 03:30 | 4593034 trader1
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a) and c) are categorizations for information source type.  

the study has nothing to do with (dis)affirming reliability of MSM.  

the study's main conclusion is that that an information source is a determinant factor in shaping people's views.  kind of obvious if you just think about it.  

lesson: be aware and don't restrict yourself to one information source type.  consider the possibilities, then synthesize the various views into a whole.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:02 | 4589117 JDFX
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To all Americans.

Beans, bullets & balls, bitchez! 


 

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:32 | 4589134 FullFaithAndCretin
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30 reasons not to read anything where the title starts with a number.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:30 | 4589175 pies_lancuchowy
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ethnic composition of American society is dragging it to the very bottom

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:26 | 4589411 Free Wary
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ethnic composition is irrelevant. History shows that spiritual composition is most important. How spiritual is America today? Before you answer, attend some local churches and observe what is going on. At my church, there are young people being taught to control their appetites and reverence God's authority. There is hope for this world.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:15 | 4589267 Edge.case
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#2 explains #1

#24 I don't see the problem here.

 

I suspect that most of these wouldn't be nearly as surprising if you looked at the actual questions and the audience.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:58 | 4589532 d edwards
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Another question:

 

Do you believe the MSM reports all the news, and without bias?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:22 | 4589860 RevRex
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Is a Bear Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:41 | 4589936 shovelhead
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A better question would be "Do you believe there is such a thing as objective news?"

The Who, What, Where is easy.

The rub is in the How and Why. A matter of subjective evaluation is required to complete the story.

This is the reason history is a fascinating subject because the latter two points can be endlessly examined and debated while the former three can be generally agreed upon.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:19 | 4589594 g speed
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according to the survey we're better off than I thought ----not bad for a Tue.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:40 | 4589675 RevRex
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Only stupid people are shocked by how ignorant the average American is.

 

50 years of Socialist Democrat control of our educational systems have their  consequences........

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:40 | 4589678 withglee
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Two things to keep in mind:

1) Polls are a measure of the effectiveness of the propaganda.

2) 94.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:52 | 4589722 uranian
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I used not to quite believe these sorts of surveys, but then I saw this recently; it's a joke petition about adding more fluoride to water, and the guy signing the petition when asked if he supports this answers "No", while signing a petition that clearly states that it's in favour of adding more fluoride to the water. If there's any consolation it's that he says "he wants to do good", it's just the unthinking stupidity that is so remarkable.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:04 | 4589768 bullchit
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Every one of us cunts is represented in these polls.

Regards.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:03 | 4589995 pipes
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Looking at these polling results should tell you one thing...

 

...that polls acnnot be trusted to tell you anything - except what the pollster wants you to hear.

 

Many of the questions/results are in direct contradiction, and were they to be asked to the SAME individuals/group of individuals, the outcome would necessarily be much different.

 

Clearly, pollsters 'play' to an audience, and the idea of 'random cross section' is a lie. Polling 'results' is a mind manipulating tool of propaganda, and when someone whips out a poll result as basis for an argument, you should punch them in the mouth for trying to mind-fuck you.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:06 | 4590007 shovelhead
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I think it's safe to say that a natural curiosity about power, it's structures and mechanisms is not a universal trait imbued in humans.

Far more than not would consider staying fed and relatively comfortable of more importance to their well being.

All you whiners about the 'stoopid people' are like a plumber who can't understand how everyone else can't fix a toilet.

Even the whiners who can't fix a toilet themselves.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:11 | 4590035 Hughmon
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#9 29 percent of Americans believe that "cloud computing" involves an actual cloud.

Could it be that 29% of Americans are sarcastic.

#24 The percentage of Americans that "believe there are signs that aliens have visited Earth" is actually higher than the percentage of Americans that believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Sounds reasonable to me.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:39 | 4590180 DarthVaderMentor
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Either these compiled surveys are nothing but a joke or we in this country are f_cked.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:09 | 4590346 Zymurguy
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#15 Close to one-third of all Americans would be willing to submit to a "TSA body cavity search" in order to fly.

...those sick preverted fucks.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 07:34 | 4597794 Quinvarius
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