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Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"
While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."
Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions with your superpower neighbor, who just happens to be set on recreating USSR 2.0. Because just like that Putin has his provocation carte blanche, as the second something, anything happens to any ethnic Russian in east Ukraine, Putin can point to precisely this conversation as proof of how Ukraine's "government" feels toward the ethnic minorities in the east, and why "they deserve to be protected" the Russian bearhug. Which has been precisely Putin's plan all along.
It is not surprising that after this recording was leaked, that Tymoshenko admitted the validity of the recording except for this part, because she knows just how greatly it can and will be used against her once Putin decides it is time to expand a little further beyond just Crimea.
??????? ????, ??? ??? 8 ??? ?????? ? ??????? - ??????. ????????? ???????: ??????? ? ??????? - ?? ????????.?????? ???:) ??????? ?? ??????????
— ???? ????????? (@YuliaTymoshenko) March 24, 2014
Some of the other statements, transcribed by RT, confirming just how powerless Ukraine truly is in this struggle between David backed by the world's most insolvent and natgas hungry countries, and an ascendent Kremlin goliath:
Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found “a way to zap those assholes [Russia].”
“I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands,” she promised.
Despite being incapacitated by spinal disc hernia the ex-PM stressed she’s ready to “grab a machine gun, you know what I’m saying, and go shoot this bastard [Putin] in the forehead.”
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Tymoshenko herself has denied the claims, saying it's part of a smear campaign. Yes, her father's surname is Grigyan, but that's not Jewish, it's Latvian, and her father's family has been Latvian "for ten generations". (The mother's side is Ukrainian — whew.) Move along, no Jews to see here.
But Tymoshenko's denials were not good enough for her countrymen, who dug further. And it looks like she is — give or take — 3/8 Jewish, with her paternal grandmother being half and paternal grandfather, a one-time principal of a Jewish school... You know what, the details don't matter. She has some Jew in her. She lied about it. She didn't become president, with antisemitism partly to blame.
Her father, Volodymyr Abramovych Hrihyan, abandoned Lyudmila Telehina and his daughter when Yulia was three years old.[26] He was born on 3 December 1937 in Dnipropetrovsk and was, according to his Soviet passport, Latvian.[25] His father was Abram Kelmanovych Kapitelman (Ukrainian: ????? ??????????? ???????????), born in 1914. After graduating fromDnipropetrovsk State University in 1940, Kapitalman was sent to work in Western Ukraine, where he worked "one academic quarter" as the director of a public Jewish school in the city Sniatyn.Perhaps a "Shabbos Goy"? A Shabbos Shiksa?
Part of the Neocon Shabbos Goys team?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiksa
Looks like she is not a goy.
I am sure the NWO can lend her some nukes. Nothing they would love more than Slavs killing Slavs. Hope Russia sees through that and nuker the whole world in retaliation
You do realize the issue here is not if she would actually use nukes, right?
Sadly, click-bait does a good job of paying the bills.
Like it or not though, we are ALL vectors for disinfo, as it is merely "the sword cutting both ways."
Which is why I find nothing more valuable than eternal skepticism.
I would drop the mic, but you did a pretty good job Eos.
You know in your heart something is broken inside ZeroHedge.
Recall this was the same RT that said 78% of Crimea voted for a "yes", but 3 days later it turns out 128% of the town of Sevastpol voted "yes". That fact was found out by Russian nationals who wanted a revote because their legitimate vote was at risk. Of course, nary a peep from the alternative media, which shows something fundamentally is amiss in this story arc. Perhaps there is some truth to the whole theory that FSB has DOX'd key idea hubs, and is paying about 80,000 USD per article, plus bait clicks.
I hope Tyler 1 does a story on how the Crimea crisis which started as a reaction by underemployed youth to the pivot back to Crony Russia led to Yanukovich's ouster is playing out real time in Taiwan. Recall, 12 hours ago students and youth protested by occupying peacefully the government offices in Taipei because they feared a Chinese backed government was going to agree to lower IP rules which will alllow Chinese oligarchs to acquire tech companies at cheap discounts.
Or if Tyler 1 will cover that the President of JP Morgan China recently resigned 2 days before the Chinese come down hard on the hiring of princelings for backdoor contracts into the NOC's.
As an old editor once said (who Ironically was on The Agency's dole): it's not about what you read, but what you do NOT read that should raise alarms.
Edit: Guess my ear needs a earcheck, Yulia said it's legit. Psyops 1, Rat 0. Let the Jew bashing and Alex Jone's nuts pile on, nothing else worth talking about on a financial blog.
I'm starting to wonder if all the changes ZH had a year or two ago was due to new ownership preparing their new propaganda tool.
User community provides 80% of ZH's "value-added".
Meaning, I am here for the community. When that deteriorates, there is nothing here that cannot be replicated elsewhere. Fight Club 2.0 will inevitably have to be formed one day.
We are still fighting, so that is good.
But I have recently missed a presence that I am thinking may have been the original Tyler(s).
That and the comments have debased more rapidly than the USD. So many MSM shills and obvious trolls in the comments now. They are doing a good job of destroying the real, intelectual and open discussion ZH used to be. I am not long for this site methinks.
Liars are always afraid of the truth. Not so, my friend Fukushima Sam? LOL
I'm not advocating for Putin. I am against the lies and hypocrisy of Washington and the West.
Or do you think that any person who has an inner decency, is a supporter of Putin?
One would imagine a dude that grew up in Bulgaria, and has some serious issues with the modern finance industry, would have a particular political viewpoint that is different from what we're used to. I kinda doubt he's specifically pro-Russian, but he sure as fuck isn't going to be pro-Western. Take everything you read with a grain of salt, regardless of source, and do your own due diligence.
Oh, I see, that here immediately was sent all the WH trolls! This means that the record is really authentic. Like the previous two entries about "Fuck Europe, Yats our good man" and about "Snipers on Maydan - it is the handiwork of the opposition."
By the way, in a referendum in the Crimea were 123 observers from 55 countries. All observers say unanimous conclusion: No violations.
Do you have sources for the no volations and the number of observers? I am not doubting but I would like a source to strengthen my own arguements.
This is what I fournd from The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/16/ukraine-crisis-crimea-refer...
guardian, hehe, i prefer press.tv.
Much more trust is aroused by the opinion of analysts, both Russian and foreign ones, of whom there are more than 150 from 23 countries, who with one voice speak about lackof any significant infractions. And this engenders trust," she emphasized.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_16/Secession-referendum-in-Crimea-LIVE-UPDATES-1196/
useless talkings
25% of Crimea population are Crimea Tatars, Armenians, etc., These people were deported by Stalin to GULAG. After Stalin's death, these people were allowed to returned back to their homeland. These people have boycotted the referendum.
The New Zero Hedge did not mention this.
Source or it didn't happen.
Do you read Russian? If you do then go to any Russian independent Internet site.
Unfortunately, you know nothing about Russia or Ukraine for this matter. All info you and you alike get is from Zionist control media in America, EU, and in Russia.
Putin is a mobster and a thief. He does not give a shit about Slavic Russians. He hates and is afraid of them. His own children live in EU not in Russia. Putin is Russian Saddam and has no desire ending like Saddam and Qaddafi. However, his close surrounding might take him out very soon. This is all.
OK i thought you just mislead by media in other post and answered you fair...
even though your boycott claim was untrue...Now apparent you are even more wrong..
Russians are better off than ever...
How do you explain the 85% or such turnout then?
Tatars leaders decided and gave guidance to choose independence from Kiev gang was best choice and most all Tatar followed. They will be treated better already.
Armenians are predominately ok with Russia...Sergei Lavrov is Armenian blood.
Head of Russian Central Bank is Elvira Nabuillina and Tatar blood, but from among the Russian Tatar who integrated for long time and operate many businesses, including banks.
Tatars and Armenians boycotted shit. Referendum had 83% turn out. More than any US election since 1900.
Crimea will have three official languages: Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar. Which is a lot more than Zionazi controlled Ukraine that banned Russian as official language.
In the past you have correctly called out the zionist acts of treason in the US. But now looks like you falling for the old cold war propaganda: "The Russians are coming!"
Better duck and cover, so the Zionist-occupied-government can "cavity search you" while picking your pocket.
Geez, what's going to take for you people to wake up?
You are fairly new, here, neocon. Why don't you keep telling us about the good old days?
Tyler do you work for Putin? :-)
No that would be ZeroHedge.com/ABC Media, LTD. Both sides
Eos: I sent this to my Russian GF and this was her reply:
"Hey, ok, reply to this guy Eos, say that your girlfriend is a native russian speaker, and she says that there is no word in Russian or Ukranian languages that could be mistaken for "Nuke", even with toilet quality recording."
"I listened to recording, she did say that 8 million russians need to be shot with nuclear weapons. She is truly insane, she is very mad. Even the guy showed more concern, he asked about what to do with 8 million russians now, because now they will be outasts."
I know who I believe here, and it ain't you. (Even if she did typo "outasts")
man she does say that, but it sounds like google translate voice tuned to sound like her, I am just guessing and it's really weird that only nukes part sounds like that. I have no doubts that the recording is authentic, but all of it? Not so fast.
"...this particular part was recorded with a toilet-sound quality."
You need to get off the toilet and listen to the recording again. Sound clear, legible words, background recording identical.
Eos, there simply aren't a lot of sources of information on things like this for the English speaking world. We have to rely on translations from places like RT and, unless somebody who speaks the language would would at least give a synopsis of the conversation, we are stuck with the Russian propaganda tool. While RT can put out some good reporting, I always question its accuracy when reporting on Russian geopolitical issues.
So, would you give us at least a short synopsis of what you hear them saying?
She says exactly what they say, but the phrase about nukes sounds like google translate voice tuned to sound like her and some "cellular" glith-sound is there too.
"Let's see how Hillary's buddy gets out of this one..."
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Easy, all Tymoshenko has to say now is...
"What difference does it make!"
Putin justified.
Putin unchained
No kidding, where's the vodka and slutskies.......
slut mind is your mind in gutter....
best vodka is Rodnik (Samara)
Are there minor world wars?
Dumb = Obama!
"This has to be dumbest lead-in to a major world war... ever."
Agreed, can we please return to the proper start of world wars like women, ethnic divisions and $1 bets between Mortimer and Randolph? This battle over economic resources, money and geography is just so passe.
+100 for trading places ref
its not just the clever tie-in.....on a certain level, its probably fucking true!
G. I. Joe with The Kung Fu grip... most definitely.
I doubt that...but is bad enough
History has the lesson...but only great men understand and speak against
Read "Count Your Dead-They Are Alive! Wyndham Lewis
I'd bet all wars start like this, but this time we are getting to see just how stupid, petty and seedy the typical politician is.
Didn't WWI start over the assasination of one dude.
WWII was just its continuation.
Wars have been started over sillier things. We have till Fall before the fireworks get serious. Pay attention folks cause this could be a very convenient cover for the impending end of our fractional reserve/credit money system. A very convenient excuse to round up all those who are "unpatriotic".
Just too darn convenient for the usual bunch who hate our freedom and have too much to gain from war.
Sounds like a well thought out conversation and reaction. .. Okay.. that was sarcasm.. let's not get all excited over what angry chicks say, especially after they have been locked up for fraud..
Don't forget the "spinal disc hernia." She is probably medicated.
+1
I can't stand medicated chicks. I was married to one way too long. If my ex had access to nukes I think the SE US would be aglow about now too.
I'm fully on the side of the Russians in this case, but am I the only one, who recognizes that "Timoshenkos" words do not fit into the context?
First she says to use her connections.
Then the nuke-sentence.
And immediately afterwards she talks about taking the Russian-problem to international court.
And how does he react?
Once you study WWII and the Holohoax for decades, you learn to look for such things and you develop a sense if something fits, or if something does not make any sense and only works within the Hollywood-cosm (switching off any logical motives).
I'm afraid, that we have entered the phase, where you can no longer trust into any side and every "information" should be examined if it makes any sense.
Everything what Timoshenko sais in this call makes sense. Exceot the nuke-sentence. And one someone wants to make you believe, that political leaders do not act rationale, but are acting just because they were evil, all alarms should go off and you should SEARCH until you have found a logical explanation for their behaviour (from THEIR point of view, which you must not share!).
Now try to find a logical explanation for Timoshenko saying that or meaning that: whould that help her politics? Would it help Ukraine? Cui bono?
This is what does not resonate for me. There is no logic behind it. They have to know they are being monitored, Russia already released highly sensitive phone info earlier and since they don't have any nukes (and they would be nuking their own people) this is illogical in the extreme. Is it possible that she is stupid enough to slip up... yes, do I buy this statement as fact considering the obvious beneficiary to the statement is the person who controls the source of its release... no.
All we know is that there is an enormous amount of bullshit flying around this issue (and all others) and this particular piece of evidence smells...
Deception - the center of any war effort.
ok. lets look at what we've got.
Tymilfoshenko is just comming off of surgery, and she is kinda hot.
im guessing some fucked her soo hard it busted her spine.
She just handed Putin 8 million reasons to invade all of the Ukraine and protect Russians there. She sounds desperately sick and twisted, but by God the West is going to defend her.
My insanity level has gone off the charts because while I have berated all dumbshit progressive friends all these years about what a scam Obama is, I doubt they even have half a clue what the hell is going on here. They will simply think we should bomb some gay marriage-ish love into Russia.
I don't watch TV but I am sure no one, but kooks like us, will be allowed to know that the US is backing Nazi's with a Jew leader and a crazy ass bitch who wants us to nuke innocent Russian/Ukrainian's.
You cannot make this shit up, can you?
All the conversations I've witnessed recently can be summed up in a single phrase, "OMG, Putin!"
My response, "OMG, Pipeline - OMG, Geopolitical chokehold - OMG, Death of the Petrodollar!"
And these aren't even the true-believer, voting-class idiots, but just the average person trying to make sense of it all.
Campaign gets dirty: Leaflets smear Tymoshenko as ‘Jew’
"Unattributed leaflets referring to Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko as 'a Jew' and calling not to vote for her appeared in mail boxes in western Ukraine in the last week before the Feb. 7 runoff vote."
"It reprints an alleged facsimile by the prime minister’s father documenting his supposed Russian and Jewish background and asks why Tymoshenko is hiding her Jewish ancestry. The leaflet also features purported quotes by four individuals, including former presidential candidate Arseniy Yatseniuk, who claim Tymoshenko is Jewish."
"In an interview late last year, presidential candidate Arseniy Yatseniuk blamed the dramatic fall in his ratings in western Ukraine before the first round of voting on a national smear campaign that also alleged he was of Jewish ancestry. 'This country has latent anti-Semitism,' he said at the time."
Is Tymoshenko simulating her disease?
"Against the backdrop of the reports of a hunger strike by former Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko, a scandalous video that may be indicative of the simulation of her serious illness has emerged. The video is dated December 15, 2011, when Tymoshenko was still in Lukyanovka jail in Kiev, 'Vesti' reported. Even then, she complained of severe pain in her back and stayed in bed."
"A video posted on YouTube displays a woman resembling the former premier, who is moving around the cell with ease in high heel shoes and looking into the mirror. Suddenly she seems afraid of some noise and dives under the covers. The camera then shows a person resembling Tymoshenko's lawyer Sergei Vlasenko. The man helps her up - now a woman moves with difficulty."
"On Tuesday, Ukrainian prosecutors acknowledged that Tymoshenko was taken to the medical institution by force, but the prosecutor Gennady Tyurin said that the former prime minister was not beaten."
Stalin and Jewish NKVD is responsible for starving to death between 5 and 8 millions of Ukrainian peasants in 1932-1932.
It is called "The HOLODOMOR". The famine-genocide of Ukraine, 1932-1933." This is the fact. There is the monument to its victims in Washington D.C.
Is starving peasants genocide, or is it class warfare?
AFAIK, peasants across the Soviet Union were being starved. Not to diminish the severity, but rather, whether the targetted group was an ethnicity, or a class of society.
There is also 'democide'. I think it is a more fitting term in this case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
Holodomor Ukraine 1933 (the real holocaust) - Video
Ten million Christians were murdered by the jews.
Jewish group objects to ‘Great Famine’ case
"The nation’s security service is pressing the case against a list of former Soviet officials accused of committing the Holodomor, which caused the deaths of millions in Ukraine in 1932-33. Most of the names on the list were Jewish."
"Last July, the Ukrainian Security Service released a list of high-ranking Soviet state and Communist Party officials — as well as officials from NKVD, the police force of Soviet Russia — that essentially blamed Jews and Latvians responsible for perpetrating and executing the famine because most of the names on the list were Jewish."
Yes, you can make this shit up. It is called a "psy-op" and the US is not the only nation skilled at such things.
Funny, when Nulland was shown to be psycho and involved in the coup, you denied the recordings as fake. At least you were supposed to own up to that one, instead of spamming comment section again.
The psy-op is you, whether paid or brainwashed.
You must have the wrong guy because I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Link it, it's not hard.
each time one of these recordings are put out, even as the speaker admits them as real, there is one or two commentators insisting it being made up. Why insist on it?
well the ones insisting a particular interpretation to be the "right" one often have an agenda. A lot of them are paid to post here and more each day it seems.
fuku sam says "hey, maybe think twice before deciding she definitely said this" and you freak out, why, exactly?
Think twice indeed - its another convenient leak, all pre-war PR is to confuse and herd opinion in a preferred direction usually 180 degrees from the truth. Manipluating recordings is easy. Trust that info is all about timing, tech and content for manipulation.
The issue to me is that the Ukraine is being used to ignite global tensions that may build into a dangerous hot war in the years to come in ways most us folks can't predict now.
I didn't notice a freak out from Johny2 Are you another one who still denies the Nuland statement? Just keep denying. A couple of people will always believe you.
i wait for the confirmation of the story before making many comments questioning it, on the first page of the comments. Specially as it seems the story is already confirmed by those involved themselves. While it is possible that nuking russians is just a matter of the speech, it shows what kind of "freaks" are pushed into the power by the invisible funding party. Why support them?
Guess I've been around the bloc a little longer and auto question it all for that reason.
Plus, she said she didn't say the shit about the nuke 'em part, right?
I don't support any of these statist fucks.
Victoria Nuland spoke at the National Press Club on December 13, 2013 - Video
Victoria Nuland (jew) admitted that the US government has spent over five billion dollars to subvert the Ukrainian government.
Lost in America: A Journey with My Father by Sherwin Nuland (Victoria's father)
"We learn also that Nuland has suffered from depression on and off since he was preadolescent, experiencing a major breakdown in midlife. This book attempts to make sense out of the family dynamics and the depression. At the same time, it describes the insular world of Russian Jewish immigrants living in New York City's Lower East Side and Bronx in the first half of the 20th century."
"What cannot be disassociated from Nuland's story is his Jewish background of persecution, scapegoating, immigration, and the Holocaust."
Why don't you ask NY'ers how they feel about Albany.. right now that place shoud be in flames, but it's not..
People say silly shit all the time when they are involved in groupthink conversations. Respectfully, I don't think "nuclear" was anything more than an expression of desire much in the same way many of us say we should nuke california for being filled with walking dead. It's peurile, yes.. but seemingly purely emotional expression of truth using words that accurately represent the desire without actually wanting THAT particular execution and or the consequences thereof.
You need to stop being logical and thoughtful as it may confuse some of our simpler folk. Lets game this out:
Ukraine keeps a few of their Soviet Era nukes secretly (afterall the break up of the Societ Union was a cluster fuck and who really knows where all the nukes went?). Crazy Julia decides to solve the "Russian Problem" once and for all in "her" country and nukes the shit out of them, deciding that the loss of her "brethren" is a worthy cost to pay.
Now what?
Ukraine has no more nukes. Russia mad. (Y U mad bro?)
Only good things will happen for Ukraine at this juncture right?
...
Well, let's make that even more simple:
I HATE YOU RUSSIA, SO I BLOW UP MY COUNTRY WHICH HAS YOU RUSSIANS IN IT! TAKE THAT RUSSIA.. derp.
@RSloane
The desire for ethnic cleansing was not unique to the Nazi's and was, in fact, espoused by many of the Soviet premiers. It seems is pretty commonplace in central Europe, Eurasia (and probably the world over).
Are we certain that this recording is genuine?
If I can't trust a former KGB agent, I don't want to live in this world...
@McMolotov
Pithy, hilarious, trenchant...
@fonz
Thank God to hear from you. Shit, no, I'm not accepting this recording as authentic! The West uses it's own agitprop and so does the East. Sadly, the ZH comments section seems blind to Putin's machine. Why do people feel the need to choose who their dictator (e.g. Putin v. Obama) is when they should always be vigilant to maintain their own freedom?
Polarization is a powerful force. Especially when each side has so much dirty laundry on the other.
ZH comments are reddit-like in confirming stuff like this.
One Ukraine speaker posted above expressing doubt, but the reddit procedure is quantity. We need a lot of ZH posters who speak Russian/Ukrainian to weigh in.
Unfortunately we can't believe any other news source.
Timoshenko has said that the recording is genuine ... supposedly, she "came clean" on Twitter.
Did she put the hashtag #iheartgenocide at the end of her tweet?
Stop it. Just fucking stop it. You come blasting in here with all this sarcastic funny and just when I get used to it you disappear for 4 months.
These crazy mofos with itchy trigger fingers make me wanna go back into hiding.
When the going gets tough, the smart run away and drink even more than usual.
...and the weird turn pro...
thank you HS Thompson
Timoshenko has said that the recording is genuine ... supposedly, she "came clean" on Twitter.
@beaglebog
Even the Tyler's post says that she specifically denied the nuke part....
i would like to see her cum clean on twitter, whats the link?
Fonz - We now have (so we are told) 24 / 7/ 365 surveilance on everyone on the planet. This can be used to create any narrative that any operative wants. They can even edit the email / phone call / chat session / etc. to better fit the narrative. Of course we are the "Conspiritorial Fringe" and therefore not the target for these "leaks". The Russian sheep will dutifully bleat and the Western sheep will dutifully bleat. Then its time to send in the drones or whatever the end game is.
Funny how all of this Ukraine / Russia stuff comes out while Israel calls in all of their diplomats and locks and loads on Iran.
And then suddenly, hostilities erupted everywhere.
/scene
@NotApplicable
Exactly. If this were an academic exercise, most ZH'ers would see it as the CIA /FSB (nee KGB) trying to keep the military industrial complex lubricated with more blood. However, with this real world example, the majority of the comments here seem like something from the Nashi.
"Everywhere" and more especially, at home!
Do not ever ever ever let theze evil criminal nazi murderers get the drop on you. THIS is what will happen.:
http://www.infowars.com/video-albuquerque-cops-open-fire-on-man-for-ille...
As well conditioned to become, we are all self-hating Americans now.
I hear you man. How funny (I know I know it's not funny) is it that we have it blasted up our ass that we are being watched 24/7 except when a plane disappears at which point everyone stares at their shoes for 2 weeks and then declares it at the bottom of the ocean based on clear evidence.
Yeh, that was my first thought too regarding 370. Veterans Today just did a great writeup on how vast the coverup of this is: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/23/neo-flight-370-another-us-conspiracy/
(It must be something REALLY FUCKING CRAZY for such a massive coverup that spans multiple governments, companies and media.)
"But, there are a few systems that can’t be turned off and one is the engine monitoring systems. The Malaysia airplane, like our 777-200’s, uses Rolls Royce Trent Engines (as a piece of trivia….Rolls Royce names their motors after rivers….because they always keep on running!) Rolls Royce leases these motors to us and they monitor them all the time they are running.
In fact, a few years back, one of our 777’s developed a slow oil leak due and partial equipment failure. It wasn’t bad enough to set off the airplane’s alerting system, but RR was looking at it on their computers. They are in England, they contact our dispatch in (REDACTED), Dispatch sends a message to the crew via SatCom in the North Pacific, telling them that RR wants them to closely monitor oil pressure and temp on the left engine.
The crew did all of that and landed uneventfully, but after landing and during the taxi in, the left engine shut itself down using it’s redundant, computerized operating system that has a logic tree that will not allow it to be shut down if the airplane is in the air…only on the ground. Pretty good tech. Anyway, the point was that RR monitors those engines 100% of the time they are operating."
I am Jacks complete lack of surprise. Just because you're not paying for the use of a feature that is available through a product that you are in posession of doesn't mean that someone else isn't. Bear that in mind with every connected device that you think you own.
She sure as shit did. Ukraine's armies are FUCKED.
Timoshenko can fuck right off.
Gee, uh, ..... I wonder how much cooperation Russia is going to give us on Syria after all this? [/s^1000]
"She sounds desperately sick and twisted, but by God the West is going to defend her."
If the West protects and financed al-Qaeda in Syria, why the West can not protect and subsidize the Nazis in Ukraine?
What you see in this as surprising?
Feisty little minx!
She may be a feisty Shiksa in a heisty mink, and seemingly naked underneath, but she's still no more than a Shabbos Goy/Shiksa -- doing the dirty or forbidden work for others.
I resemble that remark.
I've been watching this rebirth of the USSR along with everybody else. Srsly? This generation along with their socialist overloards don't believe anything is worth fighting for. "Ever" The freedoms won from England? Hitler? Japan? Phfffft. Not even a twitch or mention in the press, or the US State Department. There will be no war! You will submit along with the rest of us, to your Keynesian handlers. As you were.
No apologies needed for this 2x retard.
Oh it gets so much weirder.
NUKE THE FED
the FED,like godzilla, likely feeds on radiation. so, bad idea.
drobama can do it.
She's lost the plot.
It's an especially insane comment when you consider that, from 1994-96, Ukraine returned all nuclear weapons on its soil to, you guessed it, Russia.
who said she needs to use her own nukes?
what's a thermonuclear device (or several) among friends...
And you know this to be a fact because..........
Some new leader they fought to install lol.
if you like your threats of nuclear annihilation
you can keep your threats ....
Man, talk about sh!tting on yer own doorstep...
666 retweets...well if that's not a sign to kick off WW3.
Is this why the dollar just crashed?
That's because the oil trade between Russia and China no longer has dollars. The Dollar was killed over the past four days btw.
Is this why the dollar just crashed?
You'll know when the dollar just crashed. Gold is down 20 dollars as we speak.
Just a friendly reminder about Victoria "Nuland":
Victoria Nuland is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, whose original surname was ***Nudelman***. Victoria’s paternal grandfather was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish immigrants who came to New York City from Russia.
--married to Robert Kagan, whose father established PNAC (of "New Pearl Harbor" fame before 9/11), and related to Elena Kagan, former SCOTUS nominee - see how the web is interwoven?
Is Elena Kagan Related to PNAC Founder and Neocon Extremist Donald Kagan?
by Scott Creighton
All in the Family; The Globalist Kagans of Brooklyn
If Elena Kagan is (a cousin of both) Robert Kagan (PNAC, Council on Foreign Relations, American Enterprise Institute, “Rebuilding Americas Defenses’… “New Pearl Harbor Type event“) and Fred Kagan (PNAC and the Surge plan, American Enterprise Institute, “Rebuilding Americas Defenses”… “New Pearl Harbor Type Event…”) as well as (the niece of ) Donald Kagan (founder of the PNAC, “Rebuilding Americas Defenses”… “New Pearl Harbor Type Event“…) then when she was working in the Obama administration to keep from investigating the crimes of the Bush-era neocons, she was actually covering up for her family; she was keeping her uncle and her cousins out of prison.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/is-elena-kagan-related-to-pna...
"There's no such thing as [word omitted on Tyler's orders] and if you say there is they'll destroy you."
Joe Sobran
fucking truth...my vesectomy doctor was named.....noodlemen....
Tribe(tm) make great doctors, not such great Statesmen.
Greek slaves were doctors to the Romans, and doctors surely kept that tradition.
As the Spanish proverb goes : Where there are no doctors nor pharmacists, people die of old age.
Certain tribes specialized in money work instead of the real thing and got promoted/abused to the dilution thereof.~
and you let him/her work on you?
yea i did....and while there i asked him about my elbow....he looked at me and pointed at my crotch and said i only work on that....hysterical...
p.s....had to get my wifes permission before he would do..
Mine was Baldoc. ...Really
Weird. The doctor that did my circumsion 54 years ago was named the same...bitch cut six inches off.
Be sure to avoid Dr. Paine and Dr. Hertz! :>D
I am always amazed at "their" loyalty to their country. In this case, ancestory from Russia, and can't wait to wipe the Russians off the map.
"They" share the same loyalty to their new country, the USA. "Once we have squeezed every last drop of wealth out of the USA, it can dry up and blow away." - Nuttinyahoo
Remember what "they" did to Germany during and after WW1 (and WW2 for that matter)?
Yes, "they" are truly God's finest!!!
yes but... many bolsheviks, who destroyed Russia, were technically born in Russia... but their souls belonged to zionism. The same is allegedly true with Tymoshenko... though facts are difficult to nail down. If correct, yet another odd set of bed fellows in Kiev... neo nazis and zionists... If the people of western Ukraine have their wits about them, they will soon start clamoring to ditch this unholy alliance that stole power from the lawful government.
Odd? Not if you "follow the money."
"When money is one's god"....or something along those lines.
I prefer "money is a wonderful tool but evil master."
But how is such an "alliance" even possible -- unless both are total fakes, who only 'worship' money and power?
Do some research re: Gnosticism
There's no such thing as jewish conspiracy and if you say there is they'll destroy you.
“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews.”
Interesting that the Khazars (i.e. Kzars --> Csars --> Caesar), who according to the Jewish historian Maimonedes were from Turkish Mongolian stock, called their king Kagan. Maimonedes also outlines how the whole of the Khazarian state (the size of modern-day spain) adopted the "Jewish" faith enmass in the middle ages. Arthur Koestler goes on to document in his book the 13th Tribe, how the Khazarian Jews became the Azkenasi Jews of Russia and Europe. A globalist agenda seems befitting to the Kagan name.
Yep, and they are still pissed about the destruction of the Khazar Kingdom (or Khanate, to be more specific).
Babylonian captivity... Mongols were a mix of Turkic and Slavic peoples, according to Anatoly Fomenko. only afterwards was history rewritten to imply they were from present day Mongolia.
You unfortunately have no idea what you're talking about. Maimonides wasn't a historian nor did he ever claim anything even remotely resembling that.
The Khazar kingdom fell and disintegrated in the 10th century in the wake of Islamic expansion and invasion. Most of the kingdom's inhabitants as a result converted to Islam, whereas the aristocracy - the the original famed converts to Judaism of the 8th century - fled to lands with preexisting Jewish communities. Out of the entire Khazar population this former ruling elite was a minority. Read Hugh Kennedy's history of Islam or, just as good Claude cahen's.
Also, if ashkenazis stem from central Asia why, when they were already concentrated in eastern Europe from the 16th century onwards, did they speak Yiddish, a Germanic language, and not a Turkic -Altaic language such as spoken in Khazaria? Why jettison your mother tongue for a language spoken in a country you've never been to? I challenge you to provide an example of such extreme linguistic shift in history. You won't b able to because it's never happened.
The reason why Yiddish was spoken in Poland, Ukraine etc. was bc the majority of Jewish immigrants came from Germany, Austria and Czech and Slovak lands. They were refugees getting expelled from one fiefdom to the next. Kazimir the Great gave them protection in exchange for taxes. The Szlachta too needed their services and gladly provided protection in exchange. But I digress.
Kagan is a slavicized form of Kohen. Nothing to do with Khazars.
History is just full of suprises. My source on Maimonedes is "The Story of Civilization: Volume IV The Age of Faith" by Will Durant. Kagan, just like Kohen, Cohen, Khan, Cain, etc. all mean 'priest' in the most esoteric sense. Kagan has everything to do with Kohen. And both have nothing to do with the "Jews". Cheers.
...and I though I had problems with my wife.
I will be buying her flowers on my way home from the office.
Holy Crap! I'm canceling my subscription to the "Find a Ukrainian Cupid" site right now. This woman's hair braid is really a Tesla Coil and her nipples shoot electron pulsar rays.
Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"
Siberian make absolute best wife...Tomsk/Seversk, Irutsk, Omsk, Novo etc...Siberians are good people
Wow! Looks like the movie "Iron Sky" could be true and the Nazis hiding on the Moon all these years have come back!
And is it me, or is it starting to really feel like 1929 again??
"Iron Sky" Loved that wacky film!
As a native speaker of russian/ukrainian I can say that the part about the Nukes is either fake or "accidentally" this particular part was recorded with a toilet-sound quality. Tyler do you work for Putin? :-)
How do you say NGO in the mother tongue?
There is no need to make a fake. The conversation as a whole is very enlightning.
Once again it shows how proper Putins evaluations are.
Yeah, let's not pretend deaf, shall we? She clearly says at 1:51 "They should be shot with nuclear weapons" - in Russian "Ikh raspulivat nada iz atomova oruzhiya", the latter two stand for "nuclear weapons."
US diplomatic speak of the Nudelfrau is "Fuck the EU"
so the rough milf jailbird slutty version of fuck is "nuke".
Jail is worth it to radicalize the non-conforming members of society into criminality , or the sound and appearance thereof. When you strip upon entering a correctional facility you think your dignity is being had, but it is your morals that is to go with your civilian clothes if they have it their way.
If that criminal prosecution was real, she just came out
more authentic. Got swayed by her Slavic style braid
when she was PM but realized she had dark holes for eyes.