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Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"
While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."
Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions with your superpower neighbor, who just happens to be set on recreating USSR 2.0. Because just like that Putin has his provocation carte blanche, as the second something, anything happens to any ethnic Russian in east Ukraine, Putin can point to precisely this conversation as proof of how Ukraine's "government" feels toward the ethnic minorities in the east, and why "they deserve to be protected" the Russian bearhug. Which has been precisely Putin's plan all along.
It is not surprising that after this recording was leaked, that Tymoshenko admitted the validity of the recording except for this part, because she knows just how greatly it can and will be used against her once Putin decides it is time to expand a little further beyond just Crimea.
??????? ????, ??? ??? 8 ??? ?????? ? ??????? - ??????. ????????? ???????: ??????? ? ??????? - ?? ????????.?????? ???:) ??????? ?? ??????????
— ???? ????????? (@YuliaTymoshenko) March 24, 2014
Some of the other statements, transcribed by RT, confirming just how powerless Ukraine truly is in this struggle between David backed by the world's most insolvent and natgas hungry countries, and an ascendent Kremlin goliath:
Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found “a way to zap those assholes [Russia].”
“I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands,” she promised.
Despite being incapacitated by spinal disc hernia the ex-PM stressed she’s ready to “grab a machine gun, you know what I’m saying, and go shoot this bastard [Putin] in the forehead.”
Full recording below:
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Interesting... the conversation is in RUSSIAN, not Ukrainian. So when Putin talks about protecting russian speakers, does he talk about people like these two? Do they sound like they need putin's protection?
of cause putin talks about pro-russia-minded people
this is big thing - it begins with education at school, it continues with what you watch on TV etc etc
we all should be very careful about what we put into the minds of our children
These two do not need protection Putin. These two need two aspen stakes.
Nuking 8million people in your own country is funny shit, but that's all it is because it's more than likely fake. The part about grabbing a machine gun and shooting Putin, that's hilarious because it's real.
The Western Ukrainians are in power, Neo-Nazi's all.
This from Mish's recent blog and attributted to The Nation:
For starters, Andriy Parubiy, the new secretary of Ukraine's security council, was a co-founder of the Neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine (SNPU), otherwise known as Svoboda. And his deputy, Dmytro Yarosh, is the leader of a party called the Right Sector which, according to historian Timothy Stanley, "flies the old flag of the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators at its rallies."
The highest-ranking right-wing extremist is Deputy Prime Minister Oleksandr Sych, also a member of Svoboda, who believes that women should "lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including refraining from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company."
The Svoboda party has tapped into Nazi symbolism including the "wolf's angel" rune, which resembles a swastika and was worn by members of the Waffen-SS, a panzer division that was declared a criminal organization at Nuremberg. A report from Tel-Aviv University describes the Svoboda party as "an extremist, right-wing, nationalist organization which emphasizes its identification with the ideology of German National Socialism."
Read more at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/was-russias-annexation-of-crimea.html#dSogYzojpoU3zMXe.99
Great Allies for this Administration!
Mish?....I think I ran across where he supported that US still has 8000 ton and china only 1000 plus.
And was blowing off any other right to dissenting opinion.
If so, then has zero credibility in real...
wait - when and where are they going to set off the nuclear weapons ?
and - are these going to be US-made weapons or old soviet-era weapons ?
Ukraine has 4 working nuclear power plants with 15 reactors in there
she was put in jail for 7 years by pro-russian former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich
One can imagine how angry she is right now
i can see why he threw her slutty rich ass in jail
Pissed and righteously so she may be for her imprisonment, does this justify calling for the holocaust of her enemies?
Gee who woulda thunk an ugly fat bitch in a wheelchair with a powertrip would be the driving force behind nuclear war?
It's true.......you really can do anything you want as a handicap.
Dr. Yulia Strangelove.......
The 7-10 million starved and murdered in the Ukrainian Holodomor wasn't enough for the Kosher Bolsheviks, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, and crew. Now the inbred and mentally deranged ethno-mafia want more blood.
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=160
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/03/grand-chess-great-flops-in-...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhrPtNHcPWI
Same ethnic crew now in charge in Ukraine, ready to do it all over again, including Yulia Tymoshenko.
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=908
http://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/yulia-tymoshenkooleksan...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Yulia_Tymoshenko
1. Famine in Ukraine in the 30s was in areas inhabited predominantly Russian people. It is south and south-east of Ukraine. Most people died of starvation, were Russian, not Ukrainian.
More than any other, today scream and whine about the hunger, only WH Trolls (as you) and representatives of western Ukraine. But on the western Ukraine famine was not. This is called political prostitution. Because all the so-called "Western Ukraine" in the 30s was state lands of Poland.
2. Stalin never struggled with the Ukrainians, it is not necessary to repeat the nonsense for morons on Faux News propaganda. Stalin fought with the class of prosperous peasants, independed of any nationality of them.
Think about this: Stalin fought with the class of wealthy peasants, regardless of their ethnicity. Therefore famine in 30 years was not only in Ukraine, but in Russia and in Kazakhstan, too.
3. Fraud, Famine and Fascism - The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/special/library/tottlefraud.pdf
Exactly...good post
Russians suffered more than any, as you said...to through Volga regions and Kazakhstan
Transient!
"Indeed, China is much in demand. Its abstention in the UN Security Council vote on Crimea’s referendum pleased Moscow, while Washington saw in it Russia’s total isolation in the UN. China let both Russia and the US feel happy. " in China, India tap into Ukraine tensions, by M K Bhadrakumar
Well, the western civilization, russian include, just playing for our demise. Something like the european civil war (WW1), which destroy Europe hegemon in those time.
I bet McCain just came in his pants hearing this.
Yep, and Wolf Blitzer just got a perma-erection out of the deal. That's why they never show his bottom half in the "Situation Room". Sick fuck clearly gets off on shit like this.
Samantha and Susan sported their fem war boners while badgering their boss about his responsibility to provide boots on the ground in support of this bloodthirsty bitch.
Only one thing to say about that...
http://youtu.be/MszbA0g5ab4
with the way she talks, one can only imagine how much of a freak she is in the sack...
Free Yulia!
- Some smug fuck in Hollywood with mad shirt stocks.
what a sick rich bitch
Seriously: do these fucking idiots not understand that their conversations are almost certainly being tapped by Russia, China and the US. Yet still they cant shut their idiot fucking mouths.
Fair play to the dumb whore. She's half-hot, but seems to be an utter cunt.
Wait, I've just seen an up to date picture. I take back the "half-hot" comment. The "utter cunt" part remains true.
I downvoted your first post, then upvoted after your enlightenment... Welcome to full reality...
I'd be scared shitless over the prospect of waking up next to that Bipolar nutjob for the rest of my natural life...
I'd be scared shitless over the prospect of not waking up at all.
Blade Runner is catching up.....
I don't trust any of these so called tapped leaks. As you can see it does nothing except stir hatred so they go out and kill each other. The shadow leaders are no doubt hopeful that this ploy will work so that world war can be started and they can make loads of money from the war machine going into full production. We really need to be more clever than this. This super clever scum bags read us just like SHEEP to the SLAUGHTER. Too dame predictable.
Putin, Dude, got any conversations between bankster CEO's and the political leadership in DC that you could spot us?
TYIA
We don't need the tapes. We all know pretty well how the pols get their instructions - and donations.
Who the hell wrote this script? Really???
Michael Bay.
well said.
She could be a villainess in an 80s Sly Stallone/Bruce Willis flick.
All that's missing is some overweight bald white guy with a bad accent, a mole and a tendency to speak with his pinky in the corner of his mouth.... oh and a death ray too... that would be pretty cool.
And sharks with frick'in laser beams on their heads
Also, they can make up any voice of anyone on the planet SIS/MI6/CIA etc. They have the tech to do these scum bag things.
Well, OK, but does this cranky broad actually have nuclear weapons?
No. Which means if she said it she was exaggerating.
Or it was completely fabricated by KGB/ Putin.
She will have when the CIA supply them.
Poor Yulia.
Somebody wrapped her braid too tight again.
So these are the people they want to defend from that mean ol Putin guy?
Yulia blows. The braid keeps her hair out of the way. "Slut Yulia", I think she has a website.
Jail time will make you hungry even more.
Well ya know it's a love, hate thing. That and the plans they had for playing east vs west for even more freebies.
There’s no secret to how the mob that initiated the coup in Kiev feels about Russians. An initial move to ban use of the Russian language, even though it was later withdrawn, shows its intent.
The US and EU, controlled by Fed/IMF Fabian socialist policy, are merely carrying out worldwide Fabian Socialism.
Keynes foresaw in 1936 what the results would be of the use of his theories expounded in his major work, The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money.
Keynes wrote Fabian founder, George Bernard Shaw, that his theories, properly blended with a propaganda of hate and fear, would stir “feelings and passions” between rich and poor, labor and management, nationalities, and nations. In that respect, Keynes’ brand of socialism agrees with Lenin’s Bolshevik techniques of “divide and conquer.”
That explains why, as John Stormer relates in None Dare Call It Treason: “Every Communist country in the world literally has a ‘Made in the USA’ stamp’”
…even to why Communist agent Harry Dexter White, who became FDR’s Assistant Secretary of State and co-founded with Keynes the IMF/World Bank in 1944, sent to the Soviet Union engraving plates, paper, and ink to print occupation currency in 1943 which was redeemable by the U.S. Treasury and who also in the 1940s betrayed and destroyed Chiang Kai-shek’s nationalist government in China by introducing runaway inflation there, making way for Mao’s Communist regime. The inflation was implemented by the treasury department's representative in Chungking, Solomon Adler, also a Communist.
By 1949, the Communists, supplied by Russia, were overrunning China. And Chiang had evacuated and moved the remnants of his nationalist government to Formosa.
All Wars are Bankster Wars, Someone has to fianance them.
Last time I checked, the Ukes don't have nukes, so why does this matter?
Did Yulia lose at the Special Olympics or something?
Wehehell, if they can resettle 8 million calks, we can resettle 50 million chooks.
Selectively nuking people. Right, I believe anyone thought that, let alone said it.
How much dumber is this propganda war going to get?
a bunch dumber.
As I understand this, Timichenko has no power now, right? So, isn't this a bit of pre-election propaganda by the FSB? Putin's way of leveraging a moderate into office next month?
No you don't understand the mind of the psychopath. Sure, nuke 8 million Russians, the 4 million Ukraininans who die along with them are simply acceptable collateral damage.
Outrage expressed by Western leaders coming soon. Not because of the content of the phone call but over the fact it was intercepted. She is a mad woman and corrupt to the bone. The West better drop support for her.
It's not just Putin and the Russian people and the people of Western Europe and the Russian-speakers in the Ukraine who are going to be listening to this. Everyone in Ukraine over the age of 3, including the police and military personnel, will hear or know about it.
Maybe it gives Putin a freer hand to act. But he can also sit back and see how the Ukrainian people sort this out, now that the last shred of deniability about who has hijacked their country has been stripped away.
Damn Internet!
I can tell you right now any legit election would kick these all out...
People want distance from this criminals.
Many scared. More so if old, more helpless or no defender in home.
Single women with kids, especially daughters looking for place to get away from Kiev and mid Ukraine especially.
Stop spreading lies Ruskie, the only thing they want to get away from
is a russified corrupt political system in Ukraine. You have some front posting
russian propaganda on this site but then I guess that is what you are paid to do.
Boom Baby! Boom!
Time to remove sanctions against russia and put sanctions against Kiev. No wonder MSM isn't reporting this yet, we know who they work for, the CIA.
Since it took Iraq, and Afghanistan to make camo fashionable, start gearing up your Princess Lea look.
...as if she would have been able to affect anything, strong words do not change strategic reality.
and that reality is the Ukraine has no hope of waging a successful military campaign against Russia, if this lunatic had been in power and decided to start shooting Russians the result would have been tragic and in no way to the benefit of the Ukraine or it's people. it would seem to me, by the short list of presidential candidates who's frontrunners include this mass murderer in waiting and the leader of the fascist neo nazi party that already holds much power in Kiev (including it's own SS on the streets) that the future of the Ukraine is looking very bleak indeed.
as far as war goes it's a no win prospect no matter what happens, if the Kiev leadership goes it alone, the Russian flag will be flying over Kiev in short order. if the western powers get involved directly in war with Russia, there won't be anything left of the Ukraine for anybody to rule over...
not that Washington cares about that, as many have stated already the Ukraine is viewed as a "throw away" country to the PTB's in the west. there goal in these events has been to take yet another step towards eliminating Moscow as a global competitor and road block to realizing their dreams of world hegemony and domination. after all, if there are willing to directly aid in the continuing slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Syrians to the the same point and purpose, what consequence would the lives of hundreds of thousands, or even millions of Ukrainians be?
much like our small minded friend in the phone call above, these are evil, sick, morally and spiritually bankrupt individuals who are bound together by their greed, lust and desire for power and control.
but I wonder has their reach finally exceeded their grasp this time, did they push to hard ,to fast? will they back down and retire to more plotting and scheming in the years to come, or will they push to the endgame thereby putting not just Ukrainian's, but the lives of every man, women and child on the planet at risk?
BTW, Poland is calling reservists all across the world for at least a month of training... you know, to be ready in case it hits the fan.
I noted in a past post that Mr. Putin has adopted a new firm stance against the NATO expansion ever since Russia's air defense establishment began deployment of S-400 anti aircraft missile systems and the new missile for TOR M-2 passed all tests with flying colors. The two operate together with Tor providing S-400's defense against attack of the mobile launchers and radars. Rumor on the street is the new missile for TOR M2 is a world calss game changer in the short to medium ranges. I have followed US naval developments since I was in the Navy, I have read much in semi offical Naval journals about what modern AA missiles can do. The officers of the USN seem certain that the US Airforce ability to operate over a modern enemy is heavily in doubt. Makes me wonder about Putin's new found backbone. Hmmmm.
What's that I hear? Is that the sound of 1000 Russian T-80 tanks firing up their engines on the western border?
She's photogenic and having done time in the big house she has street cred -- bombs away beaches!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHylQRVN2Qs
Russians
Russian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7OmJZ4aeN4
She's saying she's gonna do it with the nukes loaned to her from Washington?
Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons, so how could her "threat" be considered real?
As appalling as her comments are, it can be hilarious to hear/read what pissed-off leaders in business/politics say when they vent, like this: the ex-PM stressed she’s ready to “grab a machine gun, you know what I’m saying, and go shoot this bastard [Putin] in the forehead.”
After reading all the responses on this thread I think a few people are missing the point. It really doesn't matter if this is legit or not, all the matters is how the Russian's use it. Spain blowing up the USS Maine in Havana, Poland attacking a German border radio station, and Iraq looking for yellow cake in Africa weren't very legit either, but war resulted none the less.
As always, it's never the action, but the reaction that matters.
Hegel 101
True or not, absurd or not, it's believable because it fits so it will stick.
There is one thing I notice everyone, pro or contra, has in common.
They call him Mister Putin.
Obabama doesn't get such respectfull attention...
Nazi's are back baby!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0aj0xQqNEU
Homo Homini Lupus - Ones state is as a wolf to the other :Hobbes; Leviathan
Wolf cannot fight Russian Alibai dog one to one and prevail...will avoid unless pack
One Russian can take two wolf and ...two Russian will protect against whole pack
These erect predators will avoid for only so long in real
Yellow Journalism at its best. Starts off with Nuland, drops the other bitch's name then proceeds with "she" through the rest. Because most people read fast and skim:
Nuland says, "Nuke 8 million Russians and shoot Putin in the head..."
She reminds me of my ex-wife.... A LOT.
As Rod Serling might have said: Imagine if you will, a world run by psychopaths. HA!
Unbelieveable! OMG, Paul Craig Roberts was right, neo-cons are aiming for a nuclear conflict! Holy shit. And exactly where is Ukraine going to get nukes, because they are not supposed to have any left. Nukes and conventional weapons were taken 1994 and 2007, respectively.
And exactly where is Ukraine going to get nukes...
Maybe they could offer to relocate them to Chernobyl instead. That was a Russian design, wasn't it? In fact, while we're at it, perhaps the top GE brass could volunteer to man Fukishima from now on.
BULLISH!
Will someone rid us of these troublesome neocons!
Will someone rid us of these troublesome leftists!
There - fixed it for you.
I agree as your comment is more inclusive and neocons are socialists.
Psycho cunt.
You just described almost all "leaders".
Good use of the adjective "almost". But I cannot find any exceptions in today's leaders.
But just because I cannot find any does not mean that one does not exist...
Train robbery...Vinnitsa
http://rt.com/news/anarchy-ukraine-train-robbery-873/
I have friend Vinnitsa I have not been able to reach.
Actions like these train robberies provide exactly the cover/reason Putin needs...false flags again, anyone?
idiot post
Please expand your reasoning instead of using the ad hominem. (Not necessarily in agreement or disagreement.)
Hopefully your friend is alright.
idiot lack of fact assertion was yours...sorrey but I am sick of wild statements blame Russians with not a solitary evidence.. You have no idea, but spoke from ignorance...
fact is violent thugs all over west Ukraine is documented...west media will not address this subject.. but there is lots video proof.
I know from contacts how bad it is...There has been many beat downs, bank robbery, death threats, terrorize anyone looks at them wrong way. Law enforcement is range from complicit, ignore abuse, or afraid..does nothing
Only hope for those would be self defense and protection from Russia.
People with no defender in home, old and especially single female with kids fearful.
My friend has 16 yr daughter and was worried terrible.
Ukrainians need defending from you Russians. Watch RT see the
Kremlin line direct to you own home. Stop the BS please.
Match.com while still inside? Both love clouds and vonnage
The members of the Svoboda party and the Right Sector who are running the government in Kiev these days are the heirs of those who fought with Adolf Hitler against the USSR during World War II. They hate the Russians (and Jews) and this conversation is nothing new to them, it is completely in line with their stated beliefs.
The next shoe will drop when these neo-nazis in Kiev start acting out against the Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine. Putin has gone on record repeatedly stating that such actions will precipitate a Russian invasion.
With the neocons here in the US chafing at the bit to get US/NATO troops placed in Ukraine, this makes for a potentially apocalyptic situation. The head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff announced last week that US troops are ready to be deployed to assist Ukraine. Sleepy Americans have no idea that this means war with Russia.
i am curious how us marines will march along side nazies, will they goose step too or just double time it.
No US military in this one.
Decades ago I had fortune to meet former German SS, then old men to me...
Most straight forward men I ever met ....truth....it was wakeup call for me..I went to real history and never stopped real history search...for who pulled the whole destruction...
.and these Kiev violent criminals who claim to be followers bear none of their qualities.
Not all is black and white always...but sometimes, and those real Germans would condemn these black souls
meanwhile for the first time after the revolution in Ukraine the foreign affairs ministers of Russia and Ukraine meeting in Hague
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=uk&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=...
The most important fact about Ukraine -- hottest CHICKS per capita on this planet!
True, that.
And, if you live in Europe, you don't even have to travel ... they are all coming to you!
Just stay in east and south...more west is less rational ones...pole genetics
Poltava and Kherson is probably best beauty per capita...the more Russian will have most common sense though.
slow news day?
Tyler, you got it backwards. Its the US looking for an excuse to nuke the Russians in a first strike. The call was probably a set up to provoke. There will be more of that in due course.
and so to bed hot fone yulia yulia your work is done.
time is now for dirty and bouncy bouncy.
you aminals
8 million nuked so what
they are russians not jews.
yulia is a god head.
if she says the russian must die
let them die.
the mighty reich of kiev have made many many compromises with are civilisation and are values.
time do die you pigs.
You are not coherent. Are you trying to make point? If so, it is lost in translation.
Tony's schtick is pure genius. I think you get it, but don't like it.
Is there a point to any of this? (I did not junk you. But I do want you to think about it.)
Yulia ought to see somebody :)
Battle of the Oligarchs with a mixture of Nazi provocateurs and the People caught in the middle.
The 21st Century is nothing more then the continuation of 15th Century “Empire” barbarism with the exception of nuclear weapons and the ability to destroy the world. Ha. Ha.
Built with a Ukranium-238 core no doubt. [/snark]
Just so everyone who hasn't experienced it, reading all these comments is alot like taking ayahuasca!
Due to all the puking and projectile shitting, I assume??
The world would be a much better place if all politicians were required to go to Amazon for say 1 month of daily ayahuasca ceremonies...
Yulia must be on back pain medication.
THis bitch has to be related to Hitlary Clinton!!
Snowden
Who is he working for? The NSA still? Seems a convenient person to put dribs and drabs of info out there at appropriate times.......
All she is missing is the stillettos, whip & leather g-string!
I love when these khazar zionists uncloak and the spooks are there to catch their inhuman speeches. She needs to be hung by those alien braids.
Still no one in the drive by media picks this up. Drudge doesnt care and Breitbart is too concerned with Texas and London right now to care about World War 3. I believe the only people who know about this is us, and the RT crowd of Russian Mafia members from Jersey. Oh and probably just about every person in Russia and Ukraine. But who cares about them? Obama says Putin is the aggressive one. He can never be wrong.
Russian mafia is not ethnic Russians.
Is sure not "RT crowd"
ignorant post
Well I look at the Bush-Clinton-Obama Syndicate as a Crime Family, a Mafia. I look at Putin and Medvedev as a Crime Family, a Mafia. I look at the Neo Nazi Leadership in the Ukraine as a Criminal Syndicate, a Mafia.
We have a joke in America. We say we do not commit crime in America because the US Government hates competition. They cage us and kill us if we want to compete. They extract taxes as a "Protection Racket".
I really feel very bad for what is happening over there. I feel bad for all of the people that this is affecting. I cannot imagine the horror of warfare as I have not experienced it.
But as our National Media in the USA is the Propaganda Mouthpiece for the US Government and the Corporate entities I also understand that RT will be no different.
Yeah. All I need is a miracle.
Russian Mafia was the subject...
ever visit brighton beach and florida?
JFDI
Many of them came through Israel into the USA as refugees.
Any questions?
Drudge is not interested in the truth. He has gone over to the dark side. He is with the Neocons. He only hates Hitlary and loves the Neocons.
BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES
(Praise the bomb)
link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peHEOgiQgnI
What is discerning here is that after two or three decades of bullshit wars, where western powers were simply defending their own interests people are somewhat desensitized of what constitutes a real threat versus political propeganda.
With this sort of "mind set" it is relatively easy for someone like a Putin (who is more tyrant than benefactor to his people) to walk into any country claiming what ever the hell he wants because of course he is the "good guy" and western powers are the true evil empires.
This sort of mindset was prevelent early on in both world wars where no one wanted to do anything as long as it didn't affect them. I can't say I blame them but to do nothing is to invite more problems and of greater degree. The devil you know is often better than the one you don't.
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing".
Consider for a moment, if you will... that the EU and NATO do not have our best interests in mind. Consider the possibility that Russia actually has their shit together and are the only ones on the planet with any semblence of common sense and dignity. They are the only ones aggrssively fighting radical Islam and winning and the only ones with responsible finances on the face of the planet which will likely be further strengthened following the successful implementation of Crimea into their economy. Russia currently holds the moral high ground and Putin is a beloved leader to his countrymen which is more than any western leader can claim at the moment.
Consider for a moment that you are living in a fantasy.
'...the only ones with responsible finances on the face of the planet...'
The high moral ground you speak of may be high for some place like hell but not here on Earth.
Their economy and finances are in shambles and the gas/oil is the only thing keeping them from completely disintegrating. It is really this daily cash-flow from oil/gas that keeps them in operation.
@ charles the...
Kind of my take also. The west has thrown every Christian in the ME under the bus, fomented jihad against Russia as a containment strategy, etc... Mr. Putin on the other hand has publicly embraced the ortodox church as integral to Russian society, and presented Russia as the ally of embattled Christian communities worldwide, with financial aid.
And, he's been clear that his goal is to wrest control of Russian industry and finance from the tribesmen who inheirited the wealth of Russia post 1990, whilst acknowledging the same tribesmen were responsible for the train wreck that was Soviet Communism. If he's disliked by some Russians, one need check the credentials of those to see whose ox is being gored.
Evil corrupt and now descreditied Second Rome against Resurrected Third Rome (Russian Orthodox)
That is large part of this..
The US Mafia have backed the Church of Rome in the USA. They are contributors to many charities.
Hezbollah runs charity to organizations to the Palestinians. They have built Hospitals.
The state of Israel does the same for their people.
The US Government has Social Programs which care for the disabled and the impoverished. The Europeans do the same and on a grander scale.
But all of these "good works" do not detract one iota from the fact that the leaders of all of these groups are murderous, cut throat psychopaths, Putin included.
(He was a KGB Agent. Come on...)
Nero or Caligula would be better choices for a moniker, rather than demeaning one of the five good emperors.
You are trotting out the same trite comparisons that are flooding the MSM. Do you have anything new to add to the MSM talking points?
That is one trouble making bitch! I've seen her kind before. A real man needs to stand up to that bitch and say NO. Probably a word she hasn't heard since she was alittle girl.
one more proof insane people ruling the world
why do we allow this to happen ?
The good guys are busy being good husbands and fathers and typically don't line up. You end up with the undesirables or untouchables.
"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it."
Joe Goebbels
"If the MSM repeats a lie often enough, people will believe it."
Fixed it for you.
RT is Pravda. Russian MSM propaganda on steroids. C'mon this is old news.
Tyler,
Will this content get 'leaked' ...?
http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html
I'm an old AT&T Long Lines technician. The nuclear part sounds like some Russian editing to me, and not very well done at that. Listen closely and you should be able to hear the difference yourself.
Read the literature on the USSR's technical capabilities, even going way back to the mid-20th Century, for example, in Peter Wright's, 'Spycatcher.'
The Reds probably even managed to murder Hugh Gaitskill to bring their 'Agent of Influence,' Harold Wilson, in as PM, and made it look like a natural death; so don't discount their dirty tricks and wet operations abilities.
Also, it sounds to me like Yulia is probably talking through some strong pain meds, which can impair judgment and self-contol, plus I'm sure her anger will not soon subside over her political incarceration and treatment by her political enemies.
Too bad she said the rest of what she did (minus the false nuclear part), but completely understandable from her point of view, given the above qualifiers.
I think you might be right Ronin. I listened again with headphones and you might be right. But she still sounds like a troublemaker.
It is the Russian federation that is under attack, not by a little David coalition of Ukraine and Natgas hungry countries, but by Leviathan itself, the FED/IMF – western bankers using the political leverage of the IMF and the military threats of the CIA and NATO to push back the borders for Russian influence.
In fact, the freedom of the entire world is up against this existing Goliath, not by “an ascendant Kremlin goliath.”
Naturally the European Union and its takeover mob in Kiev charge the Russians with wanting to recreate the old USSR. But, as Justin Raimondo of Antiwar.com explains, the new version of the old Russian influence, a type of modern USSR, ”this time, is a creature of the West.”
Explained Raimondo, pre-coup d’etat in Kiev February 2014, in his article Ukraine Defends Its Sovereignty: Against the Old EU and the New Cold Warriors on December 1, 2013:
“Ukraine’s ‘color revolution,’ organized, financed, and planned in the West, blends into the rainbow gallery of failed Western-backed regime-change operations.” Regarding Viktor Yushchenko (elevated to the presidency in a 2004 run-off election) and his Orange revolutionaries, he writes…
(excerpt):
Ukraine’s "Orange Revolution" – financed in large part by Western "pro-democracy" government agencies, including NED/USAID in the US and their British and European equivalents – was really the beginning of a new cold war with Russia. A renewed East-West confrontation had been brewing ever since Putin threw out the thieving "pro-Western" oligarchs who surrounded Russian President Boris Yeltsin and started challenging the Western agenda of global dominance.
A big issue has been the alleged "energy blackmail" engaged in by Putin, a favorite Western story line which depicts the Russian bear as cornering the poor helpless Ukrainian maiden and forcing her to submit to unspeakable economic practices, such as paying market prices for Russian oil and gas. Back in the Bad Old Days, when Ukraine was part of the USSR, Ukrainian energy – along with most other staples, such as food – was subsidized by the central authorities in Moscow. After the fall of the Communists, the practice was continued – until Putin got into office. It was he who initiated the "blackmail" campaign by doing what Westerners had been demanding he do since he took office: instituting market prices in basic commodities, including oil and gas.
Yushchenko and his sometime ally, Yulia Tymoshenko – now in jail for corruption – blamed the Russians for practically all of Ukraine’s many problems, playing into the ultra-nationalism that has percolated just below the surface since the fall of the Soviets. They looked to the West, and specifically the European Union, as the only viable future for their country, and even talked of entering NATO.
The failure of the economy to improve, and the authoritarian impulses of the Orange revolutionaries, both played into the country’s growing disillusionment and the reversal of fortunes that put Yanukovich back in power. When Yushchenko, the former Hero of the Orange Revolution, ran for a second term in 2010, he received a little over 5 percent of the vote, and was eliminated in the first round.
If you thought this meant the end of the Western attempt to tear Ukraine out of the Russian orbit, think again: these people never give up. And they seem to have learned their lesson, this time refraining from personifying their cause in a fallible human leader, such as Yushchenko – or the even more flawed Tymoshenko – and instead latching on to an abstraction – the EU – as the flag around which to rally their troops.”
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/12/01/ukraine-defends-its-sovereignty/
Wrote Raimondo at the Time:
“The pro-EU hooligans in the streets of Kiev are pawns in a larger game: the new cold war with Russia. This battle is being waged with the Europeans in the front lines and the Americans finagling and maneuvering behind the scenes, eager for vengeance against the one man who has successfully defied and outsmarted them at every turn: Vladimir Putin.”
Imagine if there was no opposition in the East to the US ruling the world, plowing it for its resources and cheap labor. If the US is willing to use fascists/nazis and jihadis in its agenda then what does that tell us about the true nature and intentions of the US (and the West)?
Ukrainians are Europeans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGmvEtnNMGc
2:58 is goose bumps time!!!