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Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"

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While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.

After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.

But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."

Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions with your superpower neighbor, who just happens to be set on recreating USSR 2.0. Because just like that Putin has his provocation carte blanche, as the second something, anything happens to any ethnic Russian in east Ukraine, Putin can point to precisely this conversation as proof of how Ukraine's "government" feels toward the ethnic minorities in the east, and why "they deserve to be protected" the Russian bearhug. Which has been precisely Putin's plan all along.

It is not surprising that after this recording was leaked, that Tymoshenko admitted the validity of the recording except for this part, because she knows just how greatly it can and will be used against her once Putin decides it is time to expand a little further beyond just Crimea.

Some of the other statements, transcribed by RT, confirming just how powerless Ukraine truly is in this struggle between David backed by the world's most insolvent and natgas hungry countries, and an ascendent Kremlin goliath:

Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found “a way to zap those assholes [Russia].”

 

“I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands,” she promised.

 

Despite being incapacitated by spinal disc hernia the ex-PM stressed she’s ready to “grab a machine gun, you know what I’m saying, and go shoot this bastard [Putin] in the forehead.”

Full recording below:

 

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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:48 | 4588928 walküre
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NSA & Western intel knew Putin was going to make a move on Crimea right after the Games. The key was to try and preempt on Putin's plan and oust the former pro Russian regime under Yanu during the Games.

There was much chatter between EU and US before the Games and attempts to agree on strategy. Putin's preference was to secure Crimea with a pro Russian leadership in Kiev. This was not possible after Ukraine preemptively overthrew Yanu.

The trail of evidence is clear.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:22 | 4588969 Atomizer
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Sick fucking people trying to navigate the Obama Loveboat into the anal hole of liberalism.

 

US media news Doomsday clock business model moved closer to midnight

/LOL- BTW, fuck off cunts, don’t watch your newz channels.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:06 | 4589194 Accounting101
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I'm sure you meant to type neoliberalism, and that word doesn't have a damn thing to do with tribal politics.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:22 | 4588970 gosh
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2 words:  John Titor

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:57 | 4589014 Atomizer
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Your guy is a Alex Jones Infowars propaganda dot com yahoo . Start here, Joseph Tainter; The Collapse of complex Civilisations. Just trying to steer you in the right direction.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:06 | 4589553 Lin S
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THANKS for this link!  I will use this in the school where I teach.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:50 | 4588993 Volkodav
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 Militant Sashko Bilyi shot dead...

http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:45 | 4588997 kanoli
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I don't see how it is a "ploy" for Putin to release a recording that clearly shows the new leadership of Ukraine have evil designs on the ethnic Russians who remain in their country.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:06 | 4589024 Volkodav
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Celebration event in Mockba for Crimea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy1IxoJrYio

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:01 | 4589991 walküre
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Don't forget to cheer and give out lots of candy for the kids! Olive or brown, what pants to wear? Decisions, decisions. Welcome back to the 20th century. You can have your chance to live through that again. When they come to take you and your family to the gulag, don't come knocking on our door.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:27 | 4589089 chaartist
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Someone need more lifetime prison to realise that violence creates more violence. I am only thinking if she was ordered to say it so she later can be taken responsible behind these kind of actions..that is some good leverage.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:33 | 4589094 The Abstraction...
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Perhaps if your people had suffered the Holodomor at the hands of Russians, you would understand why multiculturalism does not work.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:10 | 4589120 Volkodav
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Perhaps.... get facts correct before ignorant post....experience was same for Russians through Volga regions and also Kazakhstan.

Soviet was never a Russian construct.

From 1917 through Stalin, Russians were never in control.

Stalin was not a Russian, nor were his henchmen...

Russians suffered more than any..

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:51 | 4589954 The Abstraction...
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Lenin was Russian asshole.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:43 | 4589106 fxchange
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Notorious Ukrainian right-wing militant leader Aleksandr Muzychko, also known as Sashko Bilyi, has reportedly been shot dead in western Ukraine, where he coordinated actions of local groups belonging to the nationalist Right Sector movement.

http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:07 | 4589196 beaglebog
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The fascist heavies were useful when heads needed to be knocked, a few weeks ago.

 

Now, they are an embarrassment to the Kiev government. 

 

Think of his demise as him  "retiring from politics".

 

Tymoshenko needs to watch her back, too.   (no pun intended)

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:22 | 4589207 Zwelgje
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exactly. he was painful to watch.

this will bring discord among the western ukies though.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:56 | 4589114 dreadnaught
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a Genocidal female soon-to-be-ruling Sociopath.....wow

She makes Anne Coulter sound like a heart of gold hooker

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:19 | 4589162 Euro Monster
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Sociopath at work!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:14 | 4589201 beaglebog
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Turns out that the Ukrainian police killed that thug,  Muzychko.

 

Curiouser and curiouser ... obviously major internal divisions if the Kiev government.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:23 | 4589208 Debugas
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Yeah looks like we gonna see more reshuffling among new power in Kiev

Klitchko wants to replace current Ukrainian parliament leader Turchinov

I would not be surprised if Yulia Tomoshenko would be put in jail once again

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:19 | 4589205 Pseudonymous
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The video RT cites as their source is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEFCmJ-VGhA and in its "About" section there is some important information.

The Russian part of the text implies that the leak comes from an agent of the Security Service of Ukraine (presumably the author of the text himself). The last sentence from this Russian part seems very important:

Fragments that might compromise (in the sense of discredit or slander) third parties were removed from the recording.

Then there is a transcript translated in English. Neither this nor RT's translation are very precise, so I will use this as a basis and try to add some minor corrections and comments (my Russian is not very good, but I'll try to do by best):

  • Shufrych: [indistinct] Concerning Crimea, I tell you, I'm shocked! I'm shocked! Just today I've had a talk with our common friend, he almost weeps... And I asked him, how we were going to...
  • Tymoshenko: You see, I myself am ready to take the submachine gun now, you know, and shoot that scumbag in the head.
  • Shufrych: I said yesterday that should, God forbid, there be a military conflict... [indistinct] should, God forbid, there be a military conflict, I'm a reserved officer and my elder son is a reserved officer, both of us would take up arms and defend our country.
  • Tymoshenko: [indistinct]("100%."?) Look, it goes beyond all boundaries. Fuck it... we should take up arms and kill (the word she used literally means "drench", but I guess that it is a slang for "kill") those fucking katsaps (Russians) along with their leader.
  • Shufrych: I tell you...
  • Tymoshenko: I regret that I couldn't be there and lead all the actions, they would have eaten shit instead of getting Crimea.
  • Shufrych: By the way, you know I thought about it too. If you had been here at your place, it might have been...[indistinct]... though we had no force capacity...[indistinct] and you know what is the most insulting...
  • Tymoshenko: I would have found a way to kill (literally "drench") the morons.
  • Shufrych: And you know...
  • Tymoshenko: And I hope that as soon as I can do it I will raise all my connections and do everything I can to alert the whole world so that, fuck, not even a scorched field remains in Russia.
  • Shufrych: I tell you that I'm your ally here, and even more than that. I want to tell you... well we've had a talk today, this morning there's been a conference of party leaders and then I talked to Viktor. Vitya asked what we should do to the remaining 8 million Russians still living in Ukrainian territory? They are derelict!
  • Tymoshenko: Damn, [kill] (I don't know what the actual verb here is, but the rest of the sentence is pretty clearthem with nuclear weaponry!
  • Shufrych: I couldn't argue with you here, because what's happened is a dreadful thing. But there's a following alternative showing up, because today... [pause, something missing here] there are actions which are undoubtedly illegal. These illegal actions should be considered in some international judicial... institution.
  • Tymoshenko: Well we are going to the Hague to the Hague International Criminal...
  • Shufrych: And...

 

Also, RT's translation of Tymoshenko's tweet makes sense to me (although Ukrainian is not my native language either):

The conversation took place, but the '8 million Russians in Ukraine' piece is an edit. In fact, I said Russians in Ukraine – are Ukrainians. Hello FSB :) Sorry for the obscene language.

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:30 | 4589213 Debugas
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Tymoshenko party signaling that russian propaganda deliberately inserted ( digitally manipulated) the following words which Tymoshenko did not use in her conversation:

"Tymoshenko: Damn, kill them with nuclear weaponry!"

 

P.S. One has to understand the information war is going on so you can hardly trust a word coming out of propaganda sources on both sides

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:09 | 4589356 Lebensphilosoph
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Whether she said those words or not, she would deny that she ever spoke them. Therefore the claim demonstrates nothing whatsoever.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:55 | 4589241 cherry picker
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Talk about snow job or black swan, I still don't see MSM reporting this and now they are putting in a survellance bill that allows for even easier NSA probing.

It is hard to determine what is true now, but my conscience won't let me support anyone who hides information such as this video if it is true and as far as NSA/CIA and Fed Government is concerned, they lost all credibility with me and those who kow tow to them have lost credibility as well.

Time to quit supporting government which is no longer for the people by the people.

Passive resistance works better than you think, if there are enough of us.  Ignore them and stay low, without money or people they are powerless...eventually.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:23 | 4589403 mikem54321
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So a serious candidate for the presidency of Ukraine threatens nuclear annilhilation of 8,000,000 or 130,000,000 (seems debatable which) of a country on her border...What do we get out of CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC...crickets. Dead silence. Oh yeah. The US is the land of free press. America is lost. Not even remotely resembling what once was a proud and free nation. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:35 | 4589440 Perfecthedge
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Welcome to my club.  This is what I have been doing.  Watching CNN and RT and taking a step away to have a distant view.  Governments - no matter which - are there to work for some elites. 

I show passive resistance by not participating in many things.  If you can avoid to pay taxes: even better! Stay off the radar.  I keep my cellphone off for days.  Have fake email accounts.  Just little things, not paranoid, but some self-protection.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:19 | 4590357 fmouse
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Before Tymoshenko can nuke the Ruskies in Ukraine, she'll need a weapon.  You can make weapons-grade ukrainium by putting several thousand Ukrainians in a centrifuge and spinning them untill the Russian Ukrainians separate out from the Ukrainian Ukrainians.  When you bring these two parts into very close proximity they emit clouds of nasty, evil-smelling ukrainium propaganda, which is absorbed by other nearby Ukranians which in turn emit more nasty, evil-smelling propaganda.  In very short order, the whole kit and kaboodle blows sky high and you have a giant, evil-smelling mess of radio-active, tv-active and internet-active ukrainium.  Bwaaa!!!  What a MESS!  Just the thought of it is enough to make a body want to go out and start WWIII!

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