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US Threatens Russia Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal

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On the heels of Russia's potential "holy grail" gas deal with China, the news of a Russia-Iran oil "barter" deal, it appears the US is starting to get very concerned about its almighty Petrodollar

  • *U.S. HAS WARNED RUSSIA, IRAN AGAINST POSSIBLE OIL BARTER DEAL
  • *U.S. SAYS ANY SUCH DEAL WOULD TRIGGER SANCTIONS
  • *U.S. HAS CONVEYED CONCERNS TO IRANIAN GOVT THROUGH ALL CHANNELS

We suspect these sanctions would have more teeth than some travel bans, but, as we noted previously, it is just as likely to be another epic geopolitical debacle resulting from what was originally intended to be a demonstration of strength and instead is rapidly turning out into a terminal confirmation of weakness.

As we explained earlier in the week,

Russia seems perfectly happy to telegraph that it is just as willing to use barter (and "heaven forbid" gold) and shortly other "regional" currencies, as it is to use the US Dollar, hardly the intended outcome of the western blocakde, which appears to have just backfired and further impacted the untouchable status of the Petrodollar.

 

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"If Washington can't stop this deal, it could serve as a signal to other countries that the United States won't risk major diplomatic disputes at the expense of the sanctions regime,"

And here is Voice of Russia, "Russia prepares to attack the Petrodollar":

The US dollar's position as the base currency for global energy trading gives the US a number of unfair advantages. It seems that Moscow is ready to take those advantages away.

 

The existence of “petrodollars” is one of the pillars of America's economic might because it creates a significant external demand for American currency, allowing the US to accumulate enormous debts without defaulting. If a Japanese buyer want to buy a barrel of Saudi oil, he has to pay in dollars even if no American oil company ever touches the said barrel. Dollar has held a dominant position in global trading for such a long time that even Gazprom's natural gas contracts for Europe are priced and paid for in US dollars. Until recently, a significant part of EU-China trade had been priced in dollars.

 

Lately, China has led the BRICS efforts to dislodge the dollar from its position as the main global currency, but the “sanctions war” between Washington and Moscow gave an impetus to the long-awaited scheme to launch the petroruble and switch all Russian energy exports away from the US currency .

 

The main supporters of this plan are Sergey Glaziev, the economic aide of the Russian President and Igor Sechin, the CEO of Rosneft, the biggest Russian oil company and a close ally of Vladimir Putin. Both have been very vocal in their quest to replace the dollar with the Russian ruble. Now, several top Russian officials are pushing the plan forward.

 

First, it was the Minister of Economy, Alexei Ulyukaev who told Russia 24 news channel that the Russian energy companies must should ditch the dollar. “ They must be braver in signing contracts in rubles and the currencies of partner-countries, ” he said.

 

Then, on March 2, Andrei Kostin, the CEO of state-owned VTB bank, told the press that Gazprom, Rosneft and Rosoboronexport, state company specialized in weapon exports, can start trading in rubles. “ I've spoken to Gazprom, to Rosneft and Rosoboronexport management and they don't mind switching their exports to rubles. They only need a mechanism to do that ”, Kostin told the attendees of the annual Russian Bank Association meeting.

 

Judging by the statement made at the same meeting by Valentina Matviyenko, the speaker of Russia's upper house of parliament, it is safe to assume that no resources will be spared to create such a mechanism. “ Some ‘hot headed' decision-makers have already forgotten that the global economic crisis of 2008 - which is still taking its toll on the world - started with a collapse of certain credit institutions in the US, Great Britain and other countries. This is why we believe that any hostile financial actions are a double-edged sword and even the slightest error will send the boomerang back to the aborigines,” she said.

 

It seems that Moscow has decided who will be in charge of the “boomerang”. Igor Sechin, the CEO of Rosneft, has been nominated to chair the board of directors of Saint-Petersburg Commodity Exchange, a specialized commodity exchange. In October 2013, speaking at the World Energy Congress in Korea, Sechin called for a "global mechanism to trade natural gas" and went on suggesting that " it was advisable to create an international exchange for the participating countries, where transactions could be registered with the use of regional currencies ". Now, one of the most influential leaders of the global energy trading community has the perfect instrument to make this plan a reality. A Russian commodity exchange where reference prices for Russian oil and natural gas will be set in rubles instead of dollars will be a strong blow to the petrodollar.

 

Rosneft has recently signed a series of big contracts for oil exports to China and is close to signing a “jumbo deal” with Indian companies. In both deals, there are no US dollars involved. Reuters reports, that Russia is close to entering a goods-for-oil swap transaction with Iran that will give Rosneft around 500,000 barrels of Iranian oil per day to sell in the global market. The White House and the russophobes in the Senate are livid and are trying to block the transaction because it opens up some very serious and nasty scenarios for the petrodollar. If Sechin decides to sell this Iranian oil for rubles, through a Russian exchange, such move will boost the chances of the “petroruble” and will hurt the petrodollar.

 

It can be said that the US sanctions have opened a Pandora's box of troubles for the American currency. The Russian retaliation will surely be unpleasant for Washington, but what happens if other oil producers and consumers decide to follow the example set by Russia? During the last month, China opened two centers to process yuan-denominated trade flows, one in London and one in Frankfurt. Are the Chinese preparing a similar move against the greenback? We'll soon find out.

Finally, those curious what may happen next, only not to Iran but to Russia, are encouraged to read "From Petrodollar To Petrogold: The US Is Now Trying To Cut Off Iran's Access To Gold."


 

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Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:43 | 4626095 Billy Sol Estes
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Wow painting sure gives a jovial, playful side to W, don't it?

What a swell guy.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:55 | 4627010 Buckaroo Banzai
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His paintings are less awful than I thought they would be.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 23:32 | 4627358 Bananamerican
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"His paintings are less awful than I thought they would be"
So were Hitler's

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:14 | 4625931 Dubaibanker
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Even Tom Perkins calls him an 'amateur President"....http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2014/02/14/n-tom-perkins-obama-amateur-p...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:17 | 4626474 Milton Waddams
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That was the point of inserting him. "End of The Empire? The black guy did it!"

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:33 | 4626675 RichardParker
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Worst president in history (to date). The next one that gets elected will be even worse.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:52 | 4626727 General Decline
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yep.  That seems to be the trend

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 22:26 | 4627246 disabledvet
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"Hitler spoke of how unburdened he felt when he finally came upon the solution of invading Russia."

I would be very wary of a President who is really hard working and who has very low poll numbers and is looking at his City going down in Flames while on his watch.

"War with Russia" doesn't just sound crazy...it IS crazy! "But he will fell unburdened once he realizes "this is the guy i really hate in the world. This phucker really is it.""

Wake up folks. This is a REALLY fluid situation...and is the REAL DEAL as well. Kazahkstan and Belarus are not supporting this..."and this just in from disabledvet's favorite company":

http://seekingalpha.com/news/1661863-ge-says-u-s-approves-overhaul-of-ai...

this could be perceived as opening up a "southern front" right in the middle of Russia itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Iran
"Persia" is arguably the greatest Empire in all of history actually.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:24 | 4625986 DaveyJones
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can't give them all the credit. Like all empires, the US is its own greatest enemy 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:34 | 4626339 GoldBricker
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Yo Do,

I've been waiting for weeks for him to weigh in on Ukraine, and he didn't disappoint. He's called this one better than anyone I know of, and done it for years.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:32 | 4626517 Signs of the end
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You can listen to Jim Willie here, predicting exactly what's happening.

http://youtu.be/4eYiyasVwUM

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:58 | 4627020 Antifaschistische
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but, but, most of the third world is obsessed with trying to figure out what they can sell to Americans so they can get US Dollars, so they can buy gas for their little pickups so they can carry more of their little goods to the market to be exported to America so they can get US dollars so they can go buy more gas for their little truck so they can go buy some sticks to carve into chopsticks so they can sell them to America's so they can get more US Dollars to buy more gas.

If the third world didn't have to spend their entire day enslaved to American's so they can get dollars to buy gas for their little trucks...

...then, where will Americans get their stuff from?

...China (and the third world) would be a much better place, if they woke up every day and tried to figure out how to serve their neighbors, than they are waking up and trying to figure out how to serve Americans.

just sayin

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 22:40 | 4627276 Signs of the end
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Jim Willie talks about it here and all that he said, well almost all, is developing faster than a speeding bullet.

http://youtu.be/4eYiyasVwUM

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 01:36 | 4627522 natty light
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DoChen:

Does the central bank of Peru have a reserve of physical silver (from Peru mines)?

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 12:42 | 4628102 DoChenRollingBearing
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natty light To my knowledge, the Peruvian Central Bank does NOT have silver reserves. But, the Central Bank of DoChenRollingBearing does!  Also, Au, Pt and Pd.
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:41 | 4625729 Thought Processor
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I'll 'see' your sanctions and 'raise' you more sanctions.

 

This could drag on forever.

 

Then WW3 starts like this:

 

"No one was sure who set off the first nuclear warhead, though retaliation was swift and harsh".

 

 

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:46 | 4625782 Crash Overide
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"It's fucking game over for the U.S. only options U.S. has left

1) Start acting responsible and doing the common sense thing

2) Do something sutpid and start World War III"

 

The last card to play... :)

3) False flag alien invasion bitchez!

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:56 | 4625830 American Dreams
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Could happen, the 1960's ish Report From Iron Mountain had that as an alternative.  If you have not given it a read, YOU SHOULD.

There be no shelter here

AD

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:07 | 4625895 medium giraffe
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RATM +1 bonus.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:00 | 4625851 HardlyZero
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Moscow kicking out McDonald's from Russia was 'the tipping point'.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:27 | 4626001 chemystical
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Sounds like the Muscovites are picking a fight.  The old saw about 2 countries both having McD's have never warred against eachother holds mostly true.

http://news.fresno.edu/07/26/2007/mcdonalds-theory-conflict-prevention-peace-through-franchising

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:53 | 4626151 11b40
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Two countries with nuclear weapons have never warred with each other, and hopefully never will.  Does anyone think our relationships with Pakistan or N. Korea would be the same if they did not have nukes?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:39 | 4626327 Iam_Silverman
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"Does anyone think our relationships with Pakistan or N. Korea would be the same if they did not have nukes?"

Or valuable, recoverable resources?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:17 | 4626633 11b40
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The nuke argument still stands, which is why Iran will never stop seeking one for themselves.  They would be crazy if they did.  If they needed another example, Ukraine just gave them one.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:23 | 4626805 HardlyZero
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Reminds me of Soup Nazi...no Idaho Potatoes for You !

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:19 | 4625951 BandGap
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If countries are looking to work outside of the US banking system does this mean this applies to futures contracts? I mean, like the type that allow for manipulations of commodities?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:27 | 4626322 Winston Churchill
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Shaghai exchange has already announced futures contracts in renimbi,starting July I read.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:38 | 4626354 Iam_Silverman
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July first huh? 

I wonder if it has anything to do with Title V of FATCA (U.S. House of Representative Bill “H.R. 2847”)

Quite the coincidence if not.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:39 | 4625730 pods
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Awesome sauce, let's toss some sanctions on all the oil producing countries.

At least we are energy independent, right?

pods

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:51 | 4625803 Sam Clemons
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Pretty clear the US is in the process of failing.  A clearly confident nation of people wouldn't have leaders that think they need to talk so damn much. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:09 | 4625904 pods
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Life imitating art:

"What we need right now is a clear message to the people of this country. This message must be read in every newspaper, heard on every radio, seen on every television... I want *everyone* to *remember*, why they *need* us!"

-Chancelor Sutler

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:49 | 4626126 RafterManFMJ
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Talking too much, Mommy helmet on bike, sending a lone destroyer to wander around the Black Sea - Beta or even Gamma.

Laughing at sanctions, shirt off on horseback, deploying S-300 near Crimea - Alpha.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:21 | 4625965 TomGa
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(Republic, not a damned "democracy." )

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:08 | 4626253 ThirdWorldDude
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USSA is neither of those.

Instead you can choose between fascism and plutocracy...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:20 | 4626922 August
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False dichotomy, dude.  'Murcans enjoy both fascism and plutocracy.

Alas, 'Murcans do lack an aristocracy, unless you count Oprah and the Kardashians.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 22:30 | 4627255 disabledvet
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I choose plutocracy.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:47 | 4626551 Wahooo
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In one fell swoop Putin would destroy OPEC, the Democratic Party, 90% of the Republican Party, and a good bit of Wall Street. Love it.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:35 | 4625703 Headbanger
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What fucking idiocy and sheer pomposity telling two nations how NOT to do business!

No wonder we've made so many enemies.

BECAUSE OBAMA IS A DOUCHE BAG FOR THE BANKSTERS!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:29 | 4626023 chemystical
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"BECAUSE OBAMA IS A DOUCHE BAG FOR THE BANKSTERS!"

And most of us are the collective colostomy bag. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:11 | 4627066 Blano
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I accidentally red arrowed you on my phone.  Sorry.

Edit: hmmm fixed itself from my laptop.  Strange.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:40 | 4625742 10mm
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All by design. Kill the Dollar. Just ask Kyle Bass after his delightful conversation with a Oboinko administration official. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:44 | 4625767 Thought Processor
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Yep.  

 

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:04 | 4625873 dontgoforit
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Good acting.  obama is a russian plant - the manchurian candidate.  Remember the (two) movies of the same name.....where do you think the ruskies got the idea?  Hollywood (via the novel).  And Soros, whose betting against us, stands to become the richest man on earth.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:06 | 4626236 Real Estate Geek
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Hopefully he'll soon be the richest man in hell.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:12 | 4625922 debtor of last ...
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Peak free oil bitchez.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:47 | 4626114 free_lunch
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Better prepare and short gold! Buy stocks!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:40 | 4626536 bubblemania
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Hey Latina Lover, please get a new picture. It's really offensive.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:39 | 4626974 Slave
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I personally find all the Obama avatars worse.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:14 | 4627075 Socratic Dog
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It's a cunt.  Quite important to reproduction.  Which is why we're all here.  So no surprise that it is a popular image. 

I'd prefer to look at a cunt than Obama's slimy mug any day, agreed.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:30 | 4626669 RiverRoad
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When you can't drive your own dollar down anymore, get Russia to do it for you.  Should make interest rates interesting.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:34 | 4625697 DeadFred
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Toss a few nukes around, that's okay, but don't mess with the petrodollar.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:40 | 4625736 Divided States ...
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Yup....but then its an agreement between two countries that hate Israel so no, its time for the puppet state of america to put a stop to those plans.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:53 | 4625817 toady
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Never go full retard.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:06 | 4625889 Mr Pink
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Pooty Poot is trying to get himself Kadafyed

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:29 | 4625666 ParkAveFlasher
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Gold, bitchez!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:34 | 4625699 Rainman
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Ruble, bitchez !

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:39 | 4625733 Grom Hellscream
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PRO100 credit cards, bitchez!

 

( General Washinton in a note to the Hessians on Dec 26th: "Prithee, what now, bytches?" )

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:45 | 4625752 ParkAveFlasher
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Nycely plaiyed. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:49 | 4625789 jughead
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It's not over till one of them spits

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:39 | 4626075 Frank N. Beans
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yeth it wuth

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:34 | 4625696 RealityCheque
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Option 1 does not exist in this timeline.

Iodine pills, anyone?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:45 | 4626102 Billy Sol Estes
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Ordered mine after lewrockwell.com posted that other readers had bought them at Amazon.

$7.99 has your whole family covered!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:54 | 4626163 RafterManFMJ
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On a positive note this might get us a glimpse of Alien-derived technology (no, not the low rider), HAARP systems, and post-nuclear super weapons.

Time for the big guns to come out and play if they in fact exist.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:37 | 4625714 rubiconsolutions
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Why should America force sovereign nations to trade in dollars for goods and services including oil? I understand that the demise of the petrodollar is going to mean hardship here at home with all those dollars coming home to roost. I guess America only wants free trade when it can control the outcome of that trade or profit from it.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:42 | 4625750 Anusocracy
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Two of natures best survival traits:

controlling the resources and

controlling the competition.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:06 | 4625884 dontgoforit
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And we the people step back and ask, "How the fuck did things ever get so fucked up as this?"

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:34 | 4626679 RiverRoad
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Guess who the people elected.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:03 | 4626881 rubiconsolutions
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Speak for yourself. I haven't voted since 1992. Just like war is a racket so is voting. Give the people the illusion that they have some control when nothing could be further from the truth.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:37 | 4625718 Grom Hellscream
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Preident Mom-Jeans doesn't have the cojones for option 2, even though he is stupid enough to do it.

 

This is going to be hilarious.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:55 | 4625827 El Vaquero
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Hilarious?  I think you have a different definition of the word than I do. 

 

Best case scenario:  It's going to be pathetic. 

Worst case scenario:  I'll be looking at the wind patterns trying to figure out where the fallout that formed over Kirtland AFB and Los Alamos is going to land.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:45 | 4625909 mccvilb
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My GMC-300E arrived in the mail last week.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:10 | 4626260 Real Estate Geek
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He'll do what he's told. And like it.

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 09:19 | 4627820 lakecity55
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"You are my Bitch, Bath House. Tell me you like it."
"I like it, Lord R."
"Am I better than Vlad?"
(pulls on leash)
"Yes!"
"Better than Soros?"
"Yes!"
"I will beat you with my meatstick, meat puppet!"
"Please, Lord R!"
(later)
"Reggie has your new instructions. Light me a cigarette, please. Now I must see Vlad. He will enjoy our little video we made."

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:49 | 4625749 takeaction
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Obama is so out of his league...Classic Putin here..."Give me back my Pen"...HAHAHHAA!  Must see.

http://youtu.be/flC---s2moA

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:51 | 4625804 jughead
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Obama: whatever you do to Ukraine, we're going to do to you.

Putin: Fine, we were just going to kiss their asses and let em go.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:52 | 4625809 Crash Overide
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Just remember, it's all for show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:56 | 4625832 Dubaibanker
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This is what Putin must be doing .......talking to Obama........ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?.....Here is a man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth....here is someone who stood up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9CkhBb18E

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:02 | 4625862 Trucker Glock
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Pfft.   Nothing a couple selfies of diplomats can't fix.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:17 | 4625942 holmes
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Obozo's new "signature" policy initiative: the death of the dollar.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:35 | 4626051 SteveNYC
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What boggles the mind is two countries, on the other side of the world, sharing a continent and centuries of intra-continental trade, are being told by a country on the opposite side of the world, not on the same continent, and with a much shallower history of relations with each, that they can't take their OWN resources and trade them with EACH OTHER, lest they be "punished".

All through world history countries have traded, goods for goods, goods for money, goods for "x"....whatever they feel is equitable. If DC seriously thinks they are going to undertake controlling and regulating country-to-country trade on a global basis, even when they are not involved, it will be enjoyable to watch them fail (and flail about) miserably.

Lunatics are surely running this asylum.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:49 | 4626389 zaphod
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What is even crazier is that all the other countries around the world are following the orders from this remote country on another continent to not trade in anything but "x". 

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:07 | 4626606 Poor Grogman
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"Fear will keep them in line- fear of this battlestation."

Grand Moff tarkin

Anyone got any questions???

Good. Now get back to work.

-Sees Putin leaving...

"Hey! You at the back of the room, where do you think you're goin.??."

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:53 | 4626152 kchrisc
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Agreed, but as for, "1) Start acting responsible and doing the common sense thing."--Too late.

Anyone that understands how fraudulent-reserve banking works and the house of cards pickle the DC US and related banksters are in will understand that the Petro$ is in the driver's seat and has no idea about that brick wall ahead.

 

"There's a guillotine for that."

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:35 | 4626345 ILLILLILLI
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"There's a guillotine for that."

 

Obama: "If you want to keep your guillotine, you can keep your guillo..."

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:55 | 4626171 10PastMidnight
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lifes a bitch when you're the Rothschilds bitch and knowing them fuckers, they want war at all costs, so much easier to sweep all the dirt under the rug that way.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:09 | 4626200 Wile-E-Coyote
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He will nuke us, but I like Putin; a man's man.

I am weighed down by the corruption around me. I will take my chances......................

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:08 | 4626251 ilion
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Obama, life doesn't seem so rosy anymore?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:21 | 4626491 RichardParker
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Game over cor the US?

Obama still has "a phone and a pen." LOL 

Oh god, we are so screwed...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:00 | 4626591 Jannn
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Deposit Insurance System Will Increase Physical Gold Demand China

 

http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/deposit-insurance-system-will-increase-physi...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:34 | 4626671 yogibear
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Sweet!

Once the US loses the petrodollar Charles Evans, Janet Yellen and William Dudley can eat dirt as the attack on the US dollar esculates.

Guess Russia isn't playing your Wall Street banskter game and your pissed off.

May the attack on the dollar continue,

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:38 | 4626686 Fiat Envy
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I wonder if Americans are starting to realize that some jobs are too important to go with the affirmative action candidate.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:49 | 4626717 mc225
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oh yeah we should have gone with mccain or mittens the magical underpants man...

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 18:55 | 4628825 Rafferty
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That's the whole point.  The current 'electoral' system doesn't give you a meaningful choice.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:22 | 4627095 Socratic Dog
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"Some jobs are too important....".  Yeah, like the guys collecting the garbage can contents Thursday mornings.

President?  Not so important....

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:38 | 4626834 NoTTD
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I'll go with "sutpid".

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:41 | 4626843 Buck Johnson
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Yep, essentially your correct.

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:59 | 4626869 Franktastic
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Start acting responsible and doing the common sense thing

 

Never in a million year will it happen

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:02 | 4626880 Franktastic
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I take #2 for a 100 rubles

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:03 | 4626883 Franktastic
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I take #2 for a 100 rubles

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:43 | 4626981 laomei
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Fuck it, let's get this party started already.  I mean, that whole Cold War thing was just a big long drawn out dildo show, time for the donkey show.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 22:50 | 4627297 USA USA
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I have decided that comments that don't add substance to the article and are

used to just demean the author or the article add nothing.

Therefore, I am not going to read anymore comments.

 

PS FUCK YOU OBUMMER, take another one up the ass!!!!!!!!

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 14:02 | 4628264 Franktastic
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I will take #2 for 500 Rubles

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 16:08 | 4628493 f16hoser
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"I'll take: Obama Does Something Stupid for 1000!"

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:30 | 4625671 Seize Mars
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(Doing my best Saruman voice)
To War!!!!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:40 | 4625741 Jlasoon
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"Remember your training, and you'll make it back alive"!!!!!!!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:31 | 4625674 Gringo Viejo
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It's almost impossible to quantify the ugliness of the Washington/Wall Street axis. I'm old and I'm truely saddened for my Country as I remember it.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:35 | 4625706 DeadFred
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Ditto on both points

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:46 | 4625756 dizzyfingers
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Gringo Viejo

"It's almost impossible to quantify the ugliness of the Washington/Wall Street axis. I'm old and I'm truely saddened for my Country as I remember it."

Been thinking A LOT about 40s, 50s, 60s... I don't think anything then was what we believed.

Warnings about how bad things were... Truman's article, Washington Post, December 21, 1963 and Eisenhower's military/industrial warning speech. Those two and others had to have known things were very bad and had to have understood things had been very bad for quite some time.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:49 | 4625795 Gringo Viejo
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@dizzy: Copy that loud and clear.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:52 | 4625814 dizzyfingers
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Viejo: wish I had all those 40s Movietone News films to watch again; might be more interesting now than they were then.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:59 | 4625843 Gringo Viejo
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dizzy: LMAO. I'd settle for Spin & Marty.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:25 | 4625967 grekko
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I was born in 58.  It was pretty tough to get by back then.  But like my father, I'm the sole breadwinner in the household.  When I was a kid, we went on vacation every year.  I wish I could afford that for my family now, and I have a much better education than my father did.  Let's face it, we've been getting fucked sinced the 70's.  Nixon's fault for listening to Kissenger and the bankers and decoupleing from gold.  Soon it won't matter anymore.  I already know the winner of the shitstorm sweepstakes.  It is Mr. Gold, and his little sister Silver.  Then we can rebuild. 

 

PS:  Politicians are a commodity to be bought and sold.  Save your rope for the bankers.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:58 | 4626187 FeralSerf
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"Nixon's fault for listening to Kissenger and the bankers . . ."

 

"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."   --- Dick Cheney

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:28 | 4627109 Socratic Dog
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Seems to me it all changed Nov "63 when a president was murdered by the combined might of financial, military, political and industrial elites.  And the press shut the fuck up about it.  There was no turning back from that.  It truly was the Turning Point.  A crime so brazen and obvious, and all they could do was parrot the "Lone Nut" theory.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:37 | 4626056 chemystical
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"I'd settle for Spin and Marty"

Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkLL3reXYY

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 18:14 | 4626622 americanspirit
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Now reading Seymore Hersch's "The Dark Side Of Camelot". All the clues were there, but very few in America saw the reality behind the curtains. This book is a must-read - even for those who think they knew everything all along. JFK and the whole Kennedy clan was the start of this country going over the cliff. When history is finally written JFK will go down as the beginning of the end. Pure evil, incompetence, and arrogance. Every single person in that administration was guilty of treason of the highest order, beginning with JFK and extending far, far down the chain of command. And to think that I actually wept when he was killed.

And now we have Barack Obama. Surely if JFK was the beginning of the end for an America that means anything worth fighting for Barack Obama and his puppeteers mark the arrival of the final moments.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:41 | 4626977 stormsailor
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i was born in the late 50's too.  it seems like it has been a slow slide down my entire life.  maybe because i was young, and the newspaper and the single 3 channels on tv shaped me and others of my age.  but it still seems like things were better.  people worked hard together on community projects,  schools, even the dinky south carolina public school i went to had science clubs and slide rules.  people seemed to have much greater depth of character.  churches were important in the community,  people were godly.  they acted in manner, demeanor, and speech as godly people.  

 

now the normal is absolute id,  there are still godly, honest people of integrety and character. but now you see so few of them that it makes an impression, whereas when i was young running into someone that was not morally upright or trying to be was a rare occurance.

 

maybe this is all just a patina from my youth that i remember and yearn for as i believe all of us do.  for those days of our youth when troubles and responsibilities were so basic and simple,  when a shovel and a huge pile of sand were like heaven, and saturday morning spent playing in the creek or the woods to avoid additional household chores was nirvana.

 

maybe jfk was the beginning of the end as you suggest, or his asassination.

 

this is all meaningless rambling from someone who believes in god and sometimes wonders why he doesn't strike down those that blindly turn away from him and destroy all that is good.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:36 | 4627128 americanspirit
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Hi stormsailor - I remember the same childhood, as I'm sure many of us do who are now older than we ever imagined we would be. I do thank that God who seems to have deserted us for my childhood days - many happy times spent with that shovel and pile of sand, and making things out of the red and gray Georgia clay, and building forts in the woods. I also thank God for a loving mother and father, and for a few teachers who cared, and for scoutmasters who weren't pedophiles, and for coaches who gave each kid a chance to play, and even for preachers who were as far as I remember more interested in sharing their beliefs than in gathering in money. Like you I fear - I know - those days are gone and will never come again. I feel so privileged to have lived in that America, and feel so sad for young people today who will never know what this country could have been. Although maybe its better that they don't know - that way they will never know what they have lost.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 21:55 | 4627152 1C3-N1N3
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Ask and you shall receive, dizzy! 2 hours' worth of 1940s Movietone News footage right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XThejFE8tI

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:43 | 4625757 10mm
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At least your old. Alot are gonna wish they were.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:55 | 4625823 Grande Tetons
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Our answer is the world's hope; it is to rely on youth. The cruelties and the obstacles of this swiftly changing planet will not yield to obsolete dogmas and outworn slogans. It cannot be moved by those who cling to a present which is already dying, who prefer the illusion of security to the excitement and danger which comes with even the most peaceful progress. This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind, a temper of the will, a quality of imagination, a predominance of courage over timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the life of ease -- a man like the Chancellor of this University. It is a revolutionary world that we all live in; and thus, as I have said in Latin America and Asia and in Europe and in my own country, the United States, it is the young people who must take the lead. Thus you and your young compatriots everywhere have had thrust upon you a greater burden of responsibility than any generation that has ever lived.

Robert Kennedy, Capetown SA June 6, 1966. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:12 | 4625925 grekko
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I agree, the Crisis Generation.  Let's get the fourth Turning turning.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:44 | 4625769 Anusocracy
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Unfortunately most of those memories were lies.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:11 | 4625914 grekko
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True, about the lies, and I'm old as well.  I'll be 60 shortly, if I live long enough through the shitstorm that is coming.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:46 | 4626987 stormsailor
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same here, why cannot this failure occur while i still have most of my physical abilities and strength, every day that passes puts me closer to a time where i will be less able to use my strength and knowledge to protect myself and my family.  like the sword of damocles hanging with time against me.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:13 | 4625930 pods
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Couple of Ciphers liked the taste of that steak too much.

pods

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:29 | 4626822 HardlyZero
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Maybe its more like Minority Report.   They thought the memories were true.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:18 | 4625948 smacker
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The "Washington/Wall Street/NSA/CIA" axis is even more evil.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:46 | 4625676 Blazed
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LOL! This is what Putin is doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm81LSKJC2k

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:37 | 4625678 One And Only
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And then Obama said  pew pew! pew pew pew pew!!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:32 | 4625682 caShOnlY
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struck a nerve, did we?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:32 | 4625686 RealityCheque
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Shit's getting real.

Couldn't be happening to a more deserving banana republic.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:38 | 4625721 Skateboarder
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Too few people here acknowledge the importance of petro in the petrodollar.

Kind of get spoiled playing on home field all the time, every time.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:42 | 4625753 combatsnoopy
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THey forgot the collateral (fannie mae/freddie mac bonds) in subprmes too.  Don't wait for Duhmericans to get the obvious.  THe lobbyist rule the boat, China funded the legislators and not the private sector---They still think it's about civil rights.

Civil rights is being exploited to hide this junk.  On ALL sides in the political spectrum. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:29 | 4626020 DaveyJones
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funny things is, when you average in the cost of the military industrial complex, we probably pay more than europe for a litre of the black gold

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:02 | 4626216 RafterManFMJ
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No doubt true, but hey, Pew Pew Pew!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:54 | 4626572 FeralSerf
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The wholesale cost of a litre or a barrel of black gold is about the same price in Europe as it is in the U.S. America's military expenditures keep it at that price for both sides of the pond. Therefor, America's real cost is effectively much more than Europe's. The reason finished petro-products are so much more expensive in Europe is their higher taxes. Americans are therefor subsidizing Europe's taxes through their military contributions to the oil price. The amounts of money involved are not inconsequential.

Actually, I believe the subsidy really goes to the owners of Big Oil and the Sheiks, rather than the consumers of the finished products. Big Oil and the Sheiks wouldn't be able to retain control and ownership of the oil without the American military and CIA.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 19:21 | 4626789 rwl160
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they will when no one wants them anymore when your on vacation somewhere and your dollars are not so happly taken.. anymore ..when all those dollars out there are not needed to buy oil..and all those dollars come rushing back here... where they were printed out of thin air..then we might see the 1 million green back with Obamas pic on it..

 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:33 | 4625687 1stepcloser
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If you don't stop, we'll shoot our foot and launch MX missles...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:03 | 4625867 El Vaquero
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Naw, we decommissioned the MXs (LGM 118s.)  It turned out that, while scary as fuck, they were also expensive.  It'll be Minuteman IIIs and Trident IIs. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:04 | 4626226 RafterManFMJ
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OH GOD! War is brewing and we don't even have the KB-35 fully operational!!

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:33 | 4625691 ebworthen
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So what do Russia and Iran have to lose?

The U.S. is the school bully and the BRICS the kids the bully is beating up for their lunch money.

So the kids get together to hide their lunch money and the bully isn't happy.

Poor bully, I think he deserves his comeuppance.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:07 | 4625894 grekko
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There was a school bully (8th grader, big guy) when I was in the 6th.  Our teacher, Ms DiCicco told us to stop whining because there were more of us than the one bully.  She was right, we proved it during lunch.  The petrodollar is now on it's last leg.  Good riddance!  Sell $, buy PMs.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 15:33 | 4626040 negative rates
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One man and courage, make a majority.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:49 | 4626996 stormsailor
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the problem is we need andrew jackson, and instead we have erckle.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 16:39 | 4626362 CrashisOptimistic
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The real issue here is Iran can comfortably resume nuclear weapon development, right across the Persian Gulf from Ghawar.

You think the Saudis haven't figured this out?

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 17:12 | 4626457 negative rates
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And Jack can still climb a bean stalk.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 14:34 | 4625692 Sleepless Knight
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