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"The Liberation Of Southeast Ukraine Has Begun" - Crimean Vice Premier
On the day in which "pro-Russian separatists" are again claiming one after another city in east Ukraine, and when Russia has formally warned that any crackdown on protesters is "unacceptable" implicitly threatening retaliation should the promised use of special forces be implemented, moments ago Rustan Temirgaliev, Deputy Chairman of the Council of Miniisters of recently annexed by Russia Crimea, poured some more fuel into the fire and announced on his Facebook page that "the liberation of Southeast Ukraine has begun."
His full statement:
With things rapidly escalating out of control once more, Ukraine acting president has finally decided to, well, act:
- TURCHYNOV CALLS UKRAINE SECURITY COUNCIL MTG ON EAST CRISIS
Sadly for Kiev, as the even the Euromadian movement admits, following the seizure of regional police derpartments, Kiev no longer has a way in.
"The red arrows are seized police-departments. #Kiev has no way in. (h/t @sanwaldinjo) @uamuzik | PR News #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/SPCIDeTSSf
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
We expect NATO to promptly join in the chorus, as well as the US and Europe threatening with more severe and "costly" sanctions, even as Russia is set to expand its territory for the second time in under a month. All that is needed now is a spark, such as this one:
Report of shooting at militia station in Kramatorsk
— bruce springnote (@BSpringnote) April 12, 2014
Arsen Avakov says firefight in progress in Kramatorsk. District Police precinct under attack, UKR policemen shooting back upon engagement.
— Ryskeldi Satke (@RyskeldiSatke) April 12, 2014
?????????? pic.twitter.com/60sW7xTSa8
— ?????????? (@euromaidan) April 12, 2014
From the Facebook account of Arsen Avakov, Ukraine's acting internal minister:
The message from the public face of the force behind the Kiev uprising has a clear message for those who are now - in title at least - in charge of Ukraine: will someone finally stand up to the Kremlin?
Finaly,Mr @Turchynov as acting President react on situation at the East #Ukraine.Or you gonna give it up like #Crimea?http://t.co/i6K2LeZTLR
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
The message was not just for the President though...
Dear Mr #Nalyvaychenko as head of SBU react on situation at the East #Ukraine.Or you gonna give it up like #Crimea?http://t.co/i6K2LeZTLR
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
Dear Mr @Vitaliy_Klychko!As PartyLeader react on situation at the East #Ukraine.Or you gonna give it up like #Crimea? http://t.co/i6K2LeZTLR
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
Dear Mrs @TymoshenkoUA ! As PartyLeader react on situation at the East #Ukraine.Or you gonna give it up like #Crimea? http://t.co/i6K2LeZTLR
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
Dear Mr @Yatsenyuk_AP! As the PM react on situation at the East #Ukraine. Or you gonna give up it like #Crimea? http://t.co/i6K2LeZTLR | PR
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 12, 2014
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yeah, who would die for IMF and the banksters?
Yes that can be read in two ways, but again, there are only 'best' shitty deals now that fiat is toast and the banks will start their shutdowns and mergers to preserve the gov(s).
Dub
Sorry, double post
Meanwhile on the 11th green BunnyO just lipped out his 4 putt to take a quad bogey 9 to which he barks out to Reggie. Put me down for a 5
What happens when after Russia absorbs the Ukraine pro Russian protests start happening in Poland?
Not at all saying that I think that will happen but the new normal sure has been interesting so far.
Polish arent that smart - they have trouble screwing in ligbtbulbs!
Stanislaw Ulam would disagree
Hitler wouldn't.
Yea he would.
Ulam was co-creator of the H-Bomb with Edward Teller, as well as an integral part of the Manhattan project. So if Hitler wasn't defeated through the normal course of war a Polish immigrant would have had a very important role in blowing him the fuck up.
Breaking news - NATO upon Obama's advice is airdropping crates of red pencils over Kiev.
"Lines are our friends"
"red pencils"?
Hells teeth ...I hope they don't forget to include a case of pencil sharpeners.
The Ukrainians can use the red pencils for sketching Natalia Poklonskaya shoes.
https://www.google.com/search?q=images:+Natalia+Poklonskaya+pencil+sketc...
The latest news from the standoff in Nevada at the Bundy Ranch is that the BLM wants to stop “gathering” cattle and have a talk with Bundy because the situation is becoming “dangerous.”
The reason it’s dangerous is that militia groups are on the scene, more on the way and they’re saying they’re not afraid to fire.
Reminds one of the people who would stand up for their freedom in eastern Ukraine. And adding “fuel” to the fire in the good ol’ USA is Charlie Daniels:
“Is the Bundy Ranch situation the first test of military against citizens?”
Charlie Daniels - Devil Went Down to Georgia
The devil bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
He laid that golden fiddle on the ground at Johnny's feet.
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/daniels-charlie/devil-went-down-to-georgia-10926.html
The last thing the Control Grid wants now is a flashpoint that might wake up some of the population. This could have gone downhill for them fast. They got away with Waco by using the "cult" stigma. Ranchers are a more problematic group to demonize.
We also have to consider that Reid/Obama/Chinese didn't want any more scrutiny on their solar land grab crimes.
Yes, this is not going well. Hard to demonize ranchers who have worked the land for generations, and within the same family. This is not a cult, just everyday hard working Americans who have no need for the federales. The feds are fucked on this one. It will be a 'shot in the arm' for the constitutionalists, knowing that their might will cause the goons to back off.
Last I heard was that the Feds are starting to capitulate. They are learning as we all are that people are beginning to push back. To all who think that people are sheep and will roll over and die; you are wrong. There are more of us than there are of them...BY A HUGE AMOUNT. This has been very good for the pro liberty folks.
Looks like civil war was averted this weekend for a week or so.
As others have observed (here and elsewhere), this is not over. The BLM and feds will be back later to mess with Bundy. This is not the time to be celebrating. This is a time to be preparing for the fun and games to come.
Forward (over the cliff)!
"Reminds one of the people who would stand up for their freedom in eastern Ukraine."
Who lives in Eastern Ukraine anyway? Nazis and Russian speakers? Anyone else?
But I will agree with you if in your analogy the Ukrainian people are equivalent to Bundy's cattle. They just want to eat some grass, but are caught in the middle.
Question: if Serbs took this opportunity to take Kosovo back, would the EU or Bath House do anything about it?
Things I wonder about...
Mission Unpossible...
Believe it or not, after all things done to them by Nato and Europe, they Still want into EU...Don't shake your head, I've done it for you thousand of times already...
So Russia annexes the eastern provinces and that, in a way, solidifies Ukraine proper into the EU orbit and likely into NATO. Sort of a pyrrhic Russian victory in a sense, though maintaining the ports in the Crimea was certainly vital. This situation is far from black and white.
Um....Vlad has the gas shut off valve on his side of the yard.....
pyrrhic or not, it will depend on the staying power of the empire influence in Europe.
The Euro Maidan cunts are now up against a wall. Sure, taking Kiev with the help of NATO sniper squads was easy. Put in an IMF Banker as ruler of Ukraine without a single vote cast. The west announces a new deomocratic Kiev government. NATO prepares to move their Navies to Sevastopol and fill Crimea with missile bases. Sweet!
Did the Zionists who run the State Department and Pentagon not have any sense of the mood in Russian Ukraine and Crimea? All you need do is buy some history books and read them, it was all clear to any bloody halfwit that Russia would not surrender to NATO's biggest advance since it's founding.
From RT, they announced many cities having now gone over to Pro Russian elements. Plus, videos of Special Police Units throwing in their lot with the Pro Russian forces. Police in most cities have switched sides. Why is the west silent? Because they have knowledge of what is happening and they know they are losing. To win, NATO now must invade and fight the locals. Putin has informed NATO that that is not a bright idea.
NATO had fun in Iraq, a great game, shooting rag heads for sport. I suggest shooting Russian's for sport is not going to work quite as well for the liberation army of NATO. How many western troops want to die for West Ukraine nazi lunatic poverty stricken corrupt fuckwads? Not many I bet!
Which is why the time is ripe for Putin to create the ABF, the Anti Bolshevik Federation and unite the world against these scum. With Snowdens help, he probably has all the relevant 9/11 calls from Silverstein and all his synagogue mates. Release them and let the volcano of rightful rage erupt and scorch these fecks out to Mars where they originate from.
Judging from their artfultness...they would manufacture a scenario where Putin and George W caused 9/11
Who are the, "West Ukraine nazi lunatic poverty stricken corrupt fuckwads? "
The Deacon and Nuland/Nedelman's best friends?
No, sorry to disappoint you.
There are more than 2 parties involved in this. Its not just 'Western-sponsored Nazis' against the Russian speakers.
Saying there are only 2 parties is just feeding on the propaganda.
I thought posters on ZH could see through the B S put forward by the politicians.
Tch, double post.
Jack - I don't always agree with you -maybe 95% of the time, but I sure appreciate and acknowledge your knowledge of the facts and details, as well as the overall picture. It's quite impressive. I doubt you're an academic, as most of them are not very bright, and are usually wrong. If you have a website or social networking ID you are willing to disclose -please do so.
A very important development is that security forces are refusing orders from Kiev to shoot the pro-russian. Even police SWAT teams and elite anti-terror units are refusing to attack. Police chiefs are resigning.
It could be just that they are shiting their pants at the prospect of Spetznaz coming to collect the bill if there is a massacre. But in any case, their behaviour shows more humanity than I would expect from America's SWAT, FBI and Homeland Security.
Is Zero Hedge going to report when Putin takes a shit next?
There is more happening in the world than this bullshit in Ukraine.
Yes, tell us what is the latest on Beyoncé.
Go outside and get some sun. Take a walk. It will loosen up the bowels.
Had a great hour long walk this morning. Sunny beautiful day. Like to keep it nuclear war free soooooo Ukraine is a big story mate. Putin knows what's up. The New Bolsheviks trying to surround him and finish the job their ancestors started. He'll nuke the west if it goes too far.
Putin isn't going to nuke anyone, mate. This is all going on to reset the global economy. The winners and losers have already been chosen. The rest is theatre for the masses.
That the view from second base?
It's the view over your mother's heart shaped ass, son.
LOL. Government agents getting desperate in their creation of disinformation posters. Choosing a child's archetype. A baseball player.
Did you say Child? You're so close to answering the riddle.
we are all anxiously awaiting his announcement of the liberation of the U.S.
Anyone watch Jacob the Liar ? Anyone ?
Is Zero Hedge going to report when Putin takes a shit next?
I doubt it chuck, unless it's a nuclear shit and he dumps it on some naval bases on the east or west or both coasts, then yeah they might report it.
Beef prices in the U.S. highest in 27 years shit head!
I think that's a more important story than fucking Putin, Russia, or any other fucking foreign POS story!
Really? Lol.
You underestimate the power of a food riot happening in the US.
No, they'll dropship GMO poison into the ghettos to keep the natives sedate. The real riots will start when the big cities all go bankrupt and dump their pensioneers into instant third-world status. THAT'S what the billions of rounds of ammo are for, IMO.
I'm going to enjoy watching fat Americans run for their lives when their gated communities are overrun.
I don't think the 200 pound female security guard is going to hold her ground for $7.25/hour. HA!
I have the popcorn on hold.
Do you enjoy choking puppies in your shed, too, you fucking psycho troll?
Thats a hell of a thing to get a boner over.
Asshole.
Would love to witness the meek piss in the community pool or take a shit on the 18th hole.
It would give me hope that everything is possible.
Yeah? Sounds bitchen, brah.
But that line between rich fuck and poor little meek is a relative and shifty line.
So hope all you what, but it's highly possible the humble and downtrodden "meek" might think you are a bit too rich, after they've crapped every golf course and pissed every pool, so your mileage could vary greatly. Hope they righteously cornhole your cocker spaniel. How's that for hopes of goodwill?
And thou art still...an asshole. I flip my nutsack at thee.
He's a newbie government troll. Part of Obama's Green Job initiative. Spreading shite in all the corners.
Chuck, If you donT like an article, donT rant at the Tylers. Rant at the ZeroHeads who like the article.
And donT forget Rule #1.
no sense of humor, eh chuck?
though you are right, and if the drought doesn't improve soon in a significant way we will be in for a very rough and expensive summer and not just in beef prices.
36? I want 40!
Short Vice Documentary (14 minutes) posted yesterday about what is happening in Donetsk (from Donetsk Ukraine)
Quote from a Donetsk resident -
"The interesting thing is that what we are doing here is illegal, but in Kiev it was liberation"
It gives a good representation of the mood. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdCvuf-ZOk
The CIA used to be good at this sort of thing too. A lot of the US foreign agenda was handled efficiently and often out of the headlines. Now we have gotten rid of most of our good field spooks, and hamstung the rest with humanitarian torture rules and eliminating wet ops. The rest of the world does not play by those rules. Our SEALS, Rangers, etc are still the best, but the US has very little ability to bend the will of the populace or influence leaders on the side that we want to win. We need to re-learn this by watching Rusia at work.
Rangers and SEALs are no longer "the best," as you falsely claim. This is Bath House's military [sic], not Ronald Reagan's.
Neither do we need to "re-learn" anything, from anyone.
What we need to learn is how to STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
$17 Trillion in Federal debt means shithead chickenhawks like you need to find some other hobby other than to kill, maim, and destroy "for 'Muricah."
There's plenty of private work to keep a GOOD man on his toes Obumbles or not. Just name your better outfit than SEALS or DELTA I need a good laugh.
SNOWDEN. ..... I am still wondering on the chessboard , when does Putin exchange That Snowden pawn and exchange him into a QUEEN.
Brunhilda
i thought Snowden's boy friend was the Queen?
Backing Putin into a corner turned out well then you fucking imbeciles. What in fucks name did you expect him to do then?
I tell you what, take heed Sotero, Cameron, Merkel, Hollande, the fucking whole lot of you country destroying fuckers, take you, your ministers, your friends your families and anyone else you brain fucking dead idiots think will fight with you and pick that gun up and fuck right off to the front line and take on Putin yourselves.
You fucking child molesting fuckers are running damn straight out of time.
You cunts go and die against Putin. You despicable monsters would be hanged till dead if even half of the folk you 'Represent' woke up.
Me, my kids, my friends, my family will make you cunts go and face the Russians long before we will.
By fucking Dog himself, I am struggling for words how much I despise you fucking criminally insane cunts, I hate you, all of you with a passion that hurts.
Mother-fucking-insane-cunts.
Your day is fast approaching.
And while my brains still working, here Cameron, send them new type 45 destroyers in son, all singing and all dancing and lets see Ivan sort the fucking cunts out with a few S-400s and S-500s.
And that applies to you Sotero you fucking shaky looking cunt, the backwards Russians just made all your high falutin carriers defunct.
You cunts make me sick, sick to my very fucking core, you all need hanged, each and every last one you filthy cunts.
Fuck me, I need a pint, I am incandecent with rage against these fucking criminals.
Grr.
I do so enjoy a good rant.
Nice one. I'll be happy when every one of those fuckers is dead.
Nobody can weave a rant quite like Inthemix96!
He is to white hot rants what Million-dollar-bonus is to UberTroll Satire.
I'm a huge fan.
Brits are delightful to behold with their wry understated wit in full flower.
it is now officially being billed as a "Russian invasion"
Ukraine prepares armed response as city seized by pro-Russia forcesKiev brings the hammer down, Russia invades and this whole thing looks like it's about to go sideways in a hurry.
the only question now is what kind of assurances did Kiev receive from Washington and NATO to make such a bold move when just yesterday they seemed ready to surrender most of the east to the pro Russian contingent?
war by Monday? stay tuned...
Kiev has been declared "blighted" and is now a community redevelopment zone.
The EU doesn't want Kiev and its mob of broke commie voters, they want the other Ukraine assets under the Russian allied citizens, Kiev is just the democratic mob vote hammer, the EU doesnt want the broke immigrant mob that lives in Ukraine without all their Russian neighbor's stuff.
The Socialist putsch for war will continue until they're killed.
Nice post! Yes, things could spiral into a very serious situation. We might ask, WHY does NATO and America want a few cities full of Russians in East Ukraine? What for, why do they want people who do NOT want them? The State department stepped on their cranks when they tried a 5 billion dollar coup in Kiev, as IF the whole country would just roll over and play dead for US Corporations, the IMF, the World Bank and NATO! Too many zionists in the Washington Whore House with too few fucking brains. We know who they are, but we can do nothing to rid ourselves of these anti American scum that fills Washington DC. NATO would now have to invade Ukraine with troops and roll east, as Ukraine hasn't got what it takes to conquer and subdue Russian Ukraine.
I agree though, if handled wrongly, this could go south fast and threaten things none of us need or want. All so the Nuland whore could play her zionist world master plan in Ukraine. Where is that cunt anyways?
What scares me is they are planning for it to go south, they are actually strategizing a way to win a nuclear war. What does a bitch do when they can't win, they take everything down with them.
Samson, you're talking about Samson.
No. A bitches given nature, male or female.
the same guarantee that France and Britain gave Poland in 1939?
Out there in Nevada where the standoff with the BLM became an untenable potentially deadly situation, the federales were in the crosshairs and were very uncomfortable if they were required to report for work duty when the bullets could come flying at them. Especially on a Saturday when they could be home grilling steaks and not bleeding to death. Just is not in the job description and any thought of it happening would weigh heavy on their troubled minds.
Wise move, weedhoppers.
I never used to pay attention to hockey. Always thought it was a sport that the world could do without.
It all changed when I began to attend hockey games and found out it is a tremendous game full of action and excitement. Before that, I thought all they did was hit the puck for fun and maybe make an attempt to score a goal if they were close enough to the net. Didn't know I was so ignorant about the sport of hockey.
It is a great game to watch and didn't know how wrong I was about a winter sport. Canada did the world a favor when they invented the game of hockey. Or, was it the Russians, since they are real enthusiastic about the sport themselves?
My Grandfather and Grandmother were born near Odessa. They immigrated to the US in 1902/3.
Let's bomb the shit out of the entire world 24/7 for a month straight and see what happens after that.
Which banks are at war here, exactly? What money is pulling the strings to control what resources? Warm water port, Ok, got it. But what else? Wheat?
Bundy needs to get his cattle off. Ranchers need to quit using public land for grazing. Yeah, yeah, I don't care about higher beef prices or what you used to be able to do. Fucking cattle fuck everything up. My tax dollars ( as IF! ha-ha) should not subsidize ranchers.
Guess the word got out and Harry pulled back the BLM. The Chinese were getting nervous, and their shadow funding dropped out with the last collapsed bank in China.
It has been a rough weekend for the oligarchs, they moving their balls back home.
Harry Tally-Ho! take it back to Searchlight...and suck it all back down.
If you want the land then, if it is for sale, at least offer a fair price.
53 ranchers living in the area, all paying grazing fees. 52 are bankrupted by the BLM. They are forced to buy the shovel to dig their own graves and pay the BLM to bankrupt them.
What rancher in his right mind pay grazing fees is going to bankrupt himself? The US gov owes him money now, they fucked it up. Killing him was not an option.
Gordon Kahl killed a US Marshal, after the marshal fired point blank at Gordon Kahl's son, Yori, thinking it was Gordon. Gordon Kahl killed the US Marshal immediately after the marshal fired at his son. It was a bad day for the US Marshal. Court testimony confirmed that the US Marshal fired first. He got exactly what he had coming to him, sad to say. Shit happens.
Looks like a surreptitious extirpation of ranchers that are just not needed anymore by the money masters.
Just another shithead rancher that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and we need to get rid of his sorry ass, pronto.
Its Western Communist bankers (ours) versus Russian ex-Communust bankers.
The western bankers seek to use the Socialist EU mob to purchase all Ukraine assets not yet owned by those Western bank creditors, and dump billions in fiat debt on the Ukraine public.
Basically the EU didn't get the "Socialism blows we're not doing it anymore" memo, and they need those relatively debt free Ukraine assets to keep their ponzi going.
TPTB banks don't buy state bonds without collateral.
What collateral?
Anything of value that they* don't already own, if you have nothing to pledge, they'll take your state with an immigrant invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA
where is zerohedge onthis? Flash point gets no coverage here, if it is, excuse me...
you could have searched for it...
By typing:
site:zerohedge.com nevada rancher
into google.
Been on here the last 2 days.
Be funny to see Putin say "fuck sanctions, here's a banker kill list, $10 million pop bounty, tax free".
Here we go...CNBC and Reuters...now it is getting down to real business.
Ukraine preps troops to battle pro-Russia forceshttp://www.cnbc.com/id/101578549
Covers a lot of ground...and this tidbit:
theatre for the masses.
I would be agreeable to handing over Kerry and Nuland to appease the Russians.
No, you need to hand those over to the Europeans who're going to spend next winter without gas.
Handcuff them to the barricades.
Yawn............!!
This is a hell of spring!
The Russian spring.
Sadly it had to fall one way or the other. No winners, but the Ukr debts must be paid or written off.
A Sugar Daddy (IMF or Russia or EU or US) was necessary to fix the situation...otherwise the EU would have a cold next Winter.
re The Liberation Of Southeast Ukraine Has Begun
As has the Liberation Of Southwest USA
Val would probably like the EU and the US to pay the country's gas bill, before he starts taking people in.
The Subs are nested in two places (AKA Pearl Harbor ) the community organizr are talking womens rights, the war mongers are fighting for profits not moral highground.. Blame it on Chinese not millitary, prision, or economic hit men... AND IT IS CALLED NON INTERVENTION .... THE MILLITARY OFFENSE COMPLEX IS NOT DEFENSE OR MAKING US SAFER... ANYWHERE.
"The Rothschilds, and that class of money-lenders of whom they are the representatives and agents -- men who never think of lending a shilling to their next-door neighbors, for purposes of honest industry, unless upon the most ample security, and at the highest rate of interest -- stand ready, at all times, to lend money in unlimited amounts to those robbers and murderers, who call themselves governments, to be expended in shooting down those who do not submit quietly to being robbed and enslaved." by: Lysander Spooner(1808-1887) Political theorist, activist, abolitionist Source: "No Treason #6" (1870)
Was Putin invited to the Bilderberg meeting this year in Copenhagen?
Maybe they can all kill each other in Denmark and leave the rest of the world in peace.
Unfortunately, this would not happen. In Bilderberg meeting, they would only share some jokes, eat some good stuff (not Nulland cookies) and drink the best wine. The hard work, blood and life are pay by us and our children.
What a retard. Crimea didn't give-up, they voted to join the Russian Federation! More MSM Bullshit lies. No wonder their viership is in the crapper. People are waking up! I'm Luvin' It!!!
and come Monday, gold tanks and the DOW goes up.
"It’s all pell-mell and confusion in Washington, as well as in Ukraine. On many occasions the State Department and the Department of Defense see things differently. Congress paddles its own canoe (old McCain?). The President is on the fence or trying to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds instead of clearly defining the policy." in
Europe: Growing Resistance to US Ukraine Policy Nikolai BOBKIN | 13.04.2014I propose we form a grand army of the republic to counter the increasing seperatist threats.
Star Wars - Trade Federation March
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtP5lSQgll8 (2:19)
Star Wars: Death of The Separatists Leaders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5iOc_ZmxLA (1:31)
Darth Vader Slaughters Separatists.mp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpE8gjtn2dY (0:36)
at least its not a civil war over land resources and blood
...or...gasp....freeing the slaves.
What 'is' ?
They didn't mean defense...they mean't we sittin' on DA FENCE and we fall one way or the other, whichever it's hangin' off bigger.
Sheesh.
This will be settled by Monday.
The Ukraine could easily stop this. They should simply announce that after the '94 treaty with Russia that Russia did not follow the treaty. Ukraine should then admit they also lied and held back a number of SS-24 as insurance. If I were Russia I'd not take the chance they were bluffing.
Globalists be gone because you are wrong.
People would rather live as Russians than be slaves of Goldman Sachs.
Arrest Loyd Blankfein.
or slaves to Christine L. forever.
Pick-a-master. Choose one, in today's world.
There is a chance Putin will zero-out the Ukr debts based on the massive land deal.
It was a 3-way signature in 1994...so Russia can technically 'claim' they are defending Ukraine by zeroing-out the Ukr debt by the land deal.
Sleezy shitty Ukr land for debt deal, game over in a week.
"and when Russia has formally warned that any crackdown on protesters is "unacceptable" implicitly threatening retaliation should the promised use of special forces be implemented"
Not only Russia, President Obama also threatened that the Ukrainian government would face "consequences" if it crosses the line in cracking down on protesters..."Obama added of the consequences: "And that includes making sure the Ukrainian military does not step into what should be a set of issues that can be resolved by civilians." see Washington Post, February 19.
Here, we could see that Obama and Putin act in unison to deescalated the crisis, hehe
They are just saying minimize the weapons...so they both can have an 'out' when this thing wraps up in a few weeks. Russia takes alll of Ukraine and zero's out all Ukr debts...shitty deal done.
For the complete victory of American democracy, Lavrov must urgently come to Donetsk and start handing out cookies in the town square.
Damn, where Lavrov with cookies when we need it?
i prefer the chief prosecutor from Crimea for the delivery of cookies, scoring another BIG point for Team Putin.
CBS News @CBSNews 1h
JUST IN: White House announces Vice President Joe Biden will travel to Ukraine April 22 to meet with government leaders
Oh F*uck this is the same person who said the US had to spend money to 'save' from going bankrupt?!!!
Archduke Franz Bidenand?
The USA signed a treaty with Ukraine in 1994 pledging to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
Time to call the Putin bluff. The USA can clean the Russian's clock on land and sea. And we can invite the Chinese to talks with Russia on regions to the east that are in dispute to this day.
Russia has MUCH to lose here as they have a little Napoleon type mini-Mensch running their f'ing country.
I don't want war but this will be on Putin and the Russian people who supported him.
I think you're missing the whole point here.
If the districts in Eastern Ukraine set up a referendum vote to live under the Russian flag and they chose to do so, they are well within their rights to succeed from a constitutionally illegal govt put in place by a coup.
Putin doesn't have to do a damn thing except tell them they're free to fly the Russian flag anywhere they choose to.
Are you going to be the one to tell them that they're not entitled to have a democratic vote? Obama? NATO? EU?
Shoot them down in the streets because they don't want to live under Neo Nazi rule?
Perfect response to the other's mindless post.
Russia has no rights in Ukraine. This "sphere of influence" crap is bullshit cold war rhetoric and has no standing.
Whadaya mean "We" white man?
"The USA signed a treaty with Ukraine in 1994 pledging to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine."
Before time to call the Putin bluff, how about some cookies from Vitoria Nulland? Those infamous cookies that she used to overthrow the democratic government?
"And we can invite the Chinese to talks with Russia on regions to the east that are in dispute to this day."
Ha,Ha,Ha
Nobody trust the US anymore. Nobody. In my opinion there is not one souvereign nation left on this earth not be cheated and damaged by the US. The US power lie-politics is at its end. Whatever the US promises on their holiest oath, the next day it may worth nothing.
In the secret Laos war the US bombed in the end the whole country to hell. Including the tribes which had fought for many years for the Americans against the Chinese and Vietnamese. These tribes were exhausted, at the end they gave up because the US expected, that they are going to send even boys of age 13 to fight. When the tribes didn't do it because it would have meant the extinction of the tribes , then they saw the true face of the US. The years of common combat did not count at all. The US said simply to hell with them they are useless now. Better they die all so that the secrets die with them. And thats why the US does not have friends and nobody trusts the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8cIki7awN8
http://legaciesofwar.org/about-laos/secret-war-laos/
Yer kids gonna enlist and be part of the "Surge"? if not STFU, u r just another Chicken Hawk,like the the war criminals Cheney (5 deferments during Vietnam), Bush (family ties to get into Air national Guard, and then went AWOL, maybe, who else other than he and his father have served? JEB!, Neil, Prescott, NONE) Wolfowitz, Condi, Perle.....None of 'em...
And let's not forget their Comerades in arms who are eager to send YOUR kids overseas to die for Exxon....Romney (Missionary in France of all places, 5(!) sons none of whom know the difference between a rifle and a gun), Guiliani? (deferment for speech impediment, not cured), Newt (student deferment); Rick Perry (C-130 pilot in Germany and Saudi 72-77); Mitch McConnell, Cornyn, Santorum, Shelby, NONE of 'em ever met a Gunny until they got a taxpayer funded tour of a base---, oh yeah forgot veteran Lindsay Graham, JAG Corps in South Carolina, a foreign country if there ever was one....
Where did you learn English, comrade?
Mommy Jeans, please issue another "Don't cross this red line or there will be costs"speech. That will stop them.
Since US BLM is backing off the Nevada Ranch....do you think the US will back off Russia now too ? Is this the new da fence meme. heh. ?
First of all we need to realize that Zero Hedge is a deeply compromised website that is run by person/persons unknown. It was once thought to be the enterprise of a junior Wall St trader who lost his license for attempting to make picayune profits from insider trading. Rumored to be of Bulgarian nationality. I discounted this when this website first began because it was witty and informative. I no longer do. The site is infected both technically and politically and I believe it to be under the influence or control of a foreign power.
Now that David Stockman has an alternative site for libertarian, if slightly deranged foreign policy views, I will request that Zero Hedge put its cards on the table.
Who is Tyler Durden and from where does he derive his funding?
Once upon a time only the enemy was lying
Then all politicians appeared to be lying, but the media reported the truth
Then the media were bought and started lying, but people got the internet and could dig up the truth themselves.
We're now at the next level: no medium, no person, no source can be trusted. EVERYBODY is lying. Wherever you go, whoever you listen to, they're lying.
One should be extremely arrogant fool to believe in Russian propaganda while despising US/EU one