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White House Admits CIA Director Brennan Was "Secretly" In Kiev
Late last night we asked if, as the Russian media had reported and only the Russian media, CIA director John Brennan had secretly visited Kiev over the weekend: "Brennan landed in Ukraine on Saturday under an assumed name and held a "series of secret meetings" with the country's "power bloc" Interfax reported, citing an unidentified official in the Ukrainian parliament. The person who said this to Interfax in a phone talk added that John Brennan came to Ukraine not under his real name. According to some yet unconfirmed information, the decision to suppress protesters in Slavyansk, a city in Ukraine's east, with force was advised to Ukraine's authorities by Brennan."
One can further admit the meeting was "secret" - if only in initial intent - not only because of Brennan's assumed fake name (why the secrecy?) but because until Russian Interfax- of all places - had reported about what is certainly a key meeting in a nation in which disinformation and counterpropganda is not only rife but the last thread the current Kiev regime is hanging by - Brennan's meeting was completely unmentioned by the US press.
Until today, when moments ago White House speaker Jay Carner confirmed that indeed the CIA director was in Kiev last weekend.

"We don't normally comment on the CIA director's travel but given the extraordinary circumstances in this case and the false claims being leveled by the Russians at the CIA we can confirm that the director was in Kiev as part of a trip to Europe," White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters.
According to media reports, Russia has urged Washington to explain what Brennan was doing in Ukraine.
"Senior level visits of intelligence officials are a standard means of fostering mutually beneficial security cooperation including U.S.-Russian intelligence collaboration going back to the beginnings of the post-Cold War era," Carney said.
"U.S. and Russian intelligence officials have met over the years. To imply that U.S. officials meeting with their counterparts is anything other than in the same spirit is absurd," he said
You know what's absurd? Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Or YouTube clips "proving" an Assad chemical weapons attack... which was organized and executed by NATO member Turkey with the blessing of rht US. Or the same CIA director showing up in a Kiev hotel under a fake name. Or for Interfax to have more credibility than US media outlets.
You know what isn't absurd? Speculation that just like the CIA organized the overthrow of the Yanukovich regime, which has been confirmed courtesy of the Russian secret services leaking Victoria Nuland's very inconveient recording, so the recent escalation in east Ukraine is indeed the work of the CIA.
You know what won't be abusrd? If and when the Russians release another recording, this time of Brennan, proving that all the latest "Russian" propaganda is once again in fact, fact.
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Do you really think those discussions haven't happened in the past?
I think that you're missing the point.
... And your point is?
On the off chance that you really are stumped, I'll explain.
The hypocrisy of American foereign policy, while predictable, is breathtaking.
breathtaking..in the sense it suck all the decent air away like a fart fire...
Ahhh...the classic Fallacy of Composition at work.
Classic reductionist calculus: USA backs bad actors and does bad things on occasion. Therefore all actions of the USA are bad and all those supported by the USA are bad.
I guess it makes life more "understandable" (LOL) to think this way, Tinky. Good luck. And don't study Russian History or you will go INSANE! It will drive you STARK RAVING MAD! Keep that shit out of reach...for your own well being.
Hey man
He didn't say the Russians are angels. You're putting words in his mouth.
But in this particular case, the U.S. started this shit, and is now bungling its way through it with stupendous hypocrisy, as Tinky pointed correctly out.
The Russian foreign policy track record of the last 10-12 years looks positively squeaky clean when compared to that of the U.S. over the same time period...it's like an endless stream of lies, double standards, overt invasions, non-invasion invasions, coup d'etats, sponsored revolutions, and general bullshit
Russia is about to take a bite out of a big shit sandwich and set their foreign policy track record back 30 - 40 years. With that goes investment, jobs, markets. East Ukraine is worth all that? Russia may be forced to give up east Russia to the Chinese. They may be forced to give up influence in White Russia to Germany.
Clean? You have no clue.
'cause Fox never covered their little war in Chechnya or Georgia or their little games of oppression on their own people and democratic institutions...on their manipulation is Ukraine leading up to the crisis it is in now...and what of the adopted re-emergence of the Russian Orthodox Church cartel into political institutions and power...just off the top of my head. Religion and State, does that sound like a recipe for hypocrisy and fascism? It should.
If this shit were happening here in the USA with the level of brutality that Russia conducts in secret it would make Abu Graihb look like after-school detention.
Freedom of press...forget it! Absolute power? Yes! Will that end well? NO!
Is this regime above poisoning their opponents? Hell no. Do they respect the rule of law? Hell no!
My strong suspicion is that Putin is a admirer of both the actions of Stalin and Hitler and that he is trying to succeed by using their play book.
But why truncate the timeline to the period of the last 10 years? The correct period would be over the rise of The Little Napoleon...he is a dictator now so the record/buck stops with him!
its like someone screaming "im not an addict" whilst stabbing you to death with a coke spoon.
You aren't a very good troll?
Yanukovich stole BILLIONS from the Ukrainian people. You treat that fact as irrelevant. It's important for the rest of the world to step in and help Ukraine move in a sensible, responsible, democratic direction. That being said, Russia does not want this. Russia's economy is linked to the global economy is so many ways that they cannot break. Over time, Russia will be subdued by what is going on in the Ukraine.
Russia has a strong hand, for the moment. There will come a time for them to play their cards and go for broke. I look to the Germans and Chinese to moderate the Russian stance, to pull them back from the precipice.
When that is all said and done, Yanukovich should be drawn and quartered.
billions cuz CIA told ya
So you are saying the CIA tells the truth? That's nice to hear. Facts aside, what is your best-before date for Putin to roll into the Ukraine?
Bro, the Germans would like nothing more than for the E.U. to fall apart from Russia turning off the gas. China is loving this whole incident because now they can sign fully leveraged trade agreements with Russia and because of Russia wanting to end western reliance the Chinese can bring India into the mix in these trade agreements. The Russians dont need us anymore, there are more than a billion more people in those three countries alone than in all of the NATO countries combined. The future belongs to RussiaIndiaChina. Face it, the west doesnt have the balls to have five children per couple anymore, we have turned into a hoard of content, lazy, selfish assholes who think we are entitled because one generation of people in the 40s had the balls to win. Here is something you may not have heard, most of that generation is dead and now we have lady gaga and miley cyrus. We are f*cked and so is pussy riot.
Now we are talking about the game within the "game". I don't agree about Russia not needing us now. They cannot fight on all fronts. They are looking for low hanging fruit in the Ukraine. They are leaving the gate open and will soon have new roommates.
David Goldman talks about demographics. Russia is slowly turning things around. They don't need a war and pestilence for a few acres of land that can't bring them much.
I'm not so much worried about demographics as I am about actual economies of scale. The Ukraine is broke because of the Western region, the Eastern region dominated by ethnic Russians is filled with all sorts of industry that can be quite profitable if exploited correctly which it has not been under Yanukovich. It is true the Russians do not need to entangle themselves in a war backed by a country like the U.S. that pays its soldiers with monopoly money and the only reason the soldiers are okay with it is because they are too stupid to know what the real "game" actually is. (when I say soldiers I also include the CIA and our secret mercenary army as well). The only reason the E.U. is interested in the Ukraine in the first place is because it feels that adding more territory with potential natural resource capability and cheap labor could benefit them long term. In the short term the Germans will foot the bill along with the U.S. through the IMF (hence the Democrats trying to fatten our load there). The whole end game here is this game of musical chairs, except there is only one chair and the person with the best fiscal situation gets to stand next to the chair when the music stops. That would be Russia.
Russia would be in a strong position, when the music stops, "IF" they don't invade eastern Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine is not worth the price Russia will pay. Once they cross that line, expect all kinds of problems dealing with other nations. Russia can't fight everyone. They need to pick their fights. They got Crimea back. If I were them, I'd call it a day as they clearly have a seat at the table. Going for more will mean trade-offs...
Everyone keeps talking about "costs" and "prices" for Russia if they invade anything. 1.) A referendum in those areas to secede from Ukraine and peacefully re join Russia is not an invasion. 2.) Instead of the Eastern region being neglected and forgotten by the E.U. as they have done to all of the other eastern european countries they have assimilated into their collective, the East would be making a strategic decision to join with their direct neighbor and can move freely throughout Russia to compete for other opportunities. 3.) This competition for the extra labor from Ukraine will spur economic growth for Russia, not "extra costs". I just dont see any negatives here. When they leave the Ukraine for Russia they will be leaving behind all of their obligations to that country. It would be very similar to emerging from a bankruptcy discharge except it wont go on their credit report for ten years. There literally are zero negative consequences for leaving the Ukraine to join with Russia, I cannot think of one single negative consequence. Russia is no longer the Soviet Union and never again will be after the tremendous wealth explosion they have seen under the Russian Federation. It is a win win win for everyone even the U.S. but our incompentent president would rather Russia not be so strong because they dont like to compete, they would rather cheat and keep printing money and never have to be accountable for their fatal fiscal strategy for the last 5 years. Dont get me wrong, I think America is still a great nation, but it is a nation that has made some serious errors in the last 30 years and we will be made to account for those errors in one way or another, it is inevitable at this point.
Try selling your products when everyone sees you as a pariah. Try finding business ventures with good corporate citizens.
Leaving obligations means someone else has up pick up tab. I realize you are cold-hearted but that is understandable, given what you have been through.
It's too bad the Russians couldn't go old school and live to live. A little common courtesy would go a long way here. Unfortunately it is seem by most Russians as a sign of weakness.
Life is what you make of it. Take a shot and be prepared to receive one.
I would say that it is important for the world to step the fuck back and let those closest to Ukraine deal with the situation.
Why the fuck does the US have some higher calling in destroying countries around the globe?
(please nobody answer, that was rhetorical)
pods
The US is the world. They do have a higher calling to re-dress problems in the world. Putin plays his cards well. As we all know, the deck is getting smalller. The smart thing for Putin would be to grant Russian citizenship to any Ukrainians who want to leave Ukraine for Russia. It's not respectable to grab portions of the Ukraine. His economic strength/stamina is not there for the long haul.
quit smoking all the shit by yourself and pass the pipe bud...
Sorry... Schwwing.
Well if the US is going to be the light of the world, I think that maybe we should practice what we preach.
Would that be too much to ask?
Or is enslaving and impoverishing the rest of the world by forcing them to trade in an ever depreciating currency somehow noble and just?
pods
USSA is the light at the end of the tunnel. unfortunately it is a bullet train with 1000 nukes tied to the hood.
Well, you know what they say... the proof is in the pudding. American dollars are the international currency of choice. It's a free world out there. If two parties choose to transact in Canadian Dollars, all the power to them. If they choose Pesos... my condolances.
Arrogance and hypocrisy, writ large. I suppose you're into the theology of American exceptionalism too.
Just keep in mind that every empire was full of its own BS.
Before the U.S.: God is an Englishman, and he plays cricket.
Before Great Britain: Que viva Espana
...and so on and so on
The idea about removing all Russians from Ukraine rather than letting them break off from Ukraine is interesting. Were you against the occupation and forcible indepedence-ing of Kosovo a few years ago as well? You must be, else your stance on the Russians-in-Ukraine issue would be kind of hypocritical.
America is exceptional. Pick your metric and let's discuss. Lay your cards on the table and show in concrete terms who is better... I expect at the end of the day you will only be quibbling about small matters.
Look at how the people of America rallied around the Bundys... Ukraine is trying to do something similar. The Bundys had oligarchs trying to steal their land. The same thing goes with the Ukrainians.
you must have Canadien beer googles on...
You have to. I mean, look at what people here want to pass off an intellectual de rigueur.
Just in case:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/de%20rigueur
The whole 'exceptionalism' of modern America at the moment can be explained by a one-time windfall event, World War 2, where it inherited the world as booty - the reserve currency, an empire of military bases, the only functioning industry that wasn't totally destroyed, the German rocket program, most of the world's best scientists, etc. This doesn't mean that Americans or the American way of doing things are supremely the best at all.
By the way exceptionalism is not about being exceptional as compared to other countries at some given moment; it's the idea that America is exceptional across time, across the past and future span of human history.
For example I've had coworkers tell me that America is literally the pinnacle of all civilization and there will never be anything to surpass it because America is just that special...because they invented freedom, Goddammit...and that's why it's exceptional and can do no wrong. And even if it does wrong, it's for a good purpose. These are pretty much the exact words that I've heard fall from the mouths of people I know here, all of them college educated.
In their time, the British believed they were exceptional, before them it was the Spaniards, and there are other examples.
I still contend that the Exceptionalistas are dangerously misguided. They think that the windfall booty of wealth and power that their grandparents brought home after WW2 is something permanent.
Be realistic.
The American way of doing things is supremely the best at all. Look at the comparison metrics. Every developing nation emulates the American lifestyle, or phsyically attacks it. It is overpowering because it is the lifestyle of the world. Everyone wants a piece of that action. They want to be as fun as Americans: as wealthy as Americans; as honorable as Americans.
... As honorable as Americans?
Look at the Clive Bundy situation. Look at the Ukraine situation (with all it's detriments). Look at the Gay Issues (marriage and mafia). How can it be that a group of 300+ million people can get their heads around these complex issues and chart a course of action that provides ham-fisted leadership on such short notice? Perfection is the enemy of good enough. Given time, America will correct their mistakes.
Give me some comparative examples and we can talk.
Are you fucking kidding me???
America has been around for less than 250 years. Talk to me when you've been around over 2,000 years, like many Nations still standing today.
Nothing but an impetous spoiled new kid on the block with shiny toys, about to get its fat head knocked off.............you won't even make it to 300 years at the rate your going..............Kardashian Kid
Most indebted Nation in the history of the planet................exceptionalism my ass!
America WAS exceptional, you may want to read the new CBO report out today. Pretty dire.
Indeed. And Nazi Germany also had a higher calling. So did the Soviet Communist Party, both had higher callings. Now it is America that has a higher calling. Fuckn' 'ell, how is this going to end. Best quote of the day came from pro Russian demonstrator in Karkov, "We do not want to be slaves to the EU and NATO". Who can blame them. Another said "We do not want our social system under the command of the ECB and IMF." Seems East Ukrainians are fuck all smarter than most dupes in the fake EU Banker paradise!
Look at Russia's economy. Any thought that they are not under ECB, IMF, US Fed, BOE influence is laughable. Their banking system will implode first when the next crash hits. Who will be there to help them?
Grow up and see the world for what it is, rather than how you want it to be. Captains of Industry are not navigating small boats.
They got the Motts.....................
Ya, they want to be Little Napoleons bitches...certainly a step down in any historians book.
Ukraine needs its own self determination...meanwhile you Russians want to march on Kiev and recreate some hell from the past.
You are talking about Russia? Why don't YOU stop giving rhetorical aid to Russia? Ukraine is in EUROPE!
You can go step back off that bridge and land on your ass.
And yet you ignore the unelected Oligarchs Kiev put in government positions, and the desire of many Ukranians to be a part of the Russian Federation versus the Brussels Bandits (E.U.).
The Chinese are backing Russia on this, they understand the territorial battle against the West.
Germany needs the Nat. Gas, and have not forgotten their war crimes or defeat in WWII.
Jon Corzine and Warren Buffet should be drawn and quartered.
The unelected oligarchs are not ignored. Ukraine needs to change their ways. They don't need to become part of Russia.
Nicely put...but the FSB is heavily represented here (if you were unaware)
FSB types are all over the place. Corruption breeds Opportunists. They will be tied into both sides of an issue.
The Chinese are backing Russia because Russia is what they want...Eastern Russia will be claimed by the Chinese.
Goose and Gander and the bear is cooked.
You know nothing about this subject...
More criminal is Tymenshenko...by far..
Yanukovich is mild compared to her and the Oligarchs types similar to ones Russian kicked...
And some of present gang running Kyiv own house same neighborhood next to Yanukovich's...
Media did not show you that...
Also, so you know...President Putin does not like Yanukovich much at all...
If Putin administration or similar was leading Ukraine, it would be doing well as Russia..
of course wfar west where the trouble comes from would still have to be crutched up, or kicked..
actually it was doing better until Orange criminals arrived and set the country back 10 years..
Yanukovich did tried to keep Ukrainans from EU takeover and depradations...better read the actual terms...
"Blah blah lie lie lie..." says Volkodav. But no one really bothered to listen as he was irrelevant since birth.
I can picture you sitting at your computer with your fingers in your ears going "NANANANANA I CAN'T HEAR YOU".
Do you have anything useful to contribute here? And I'm not referring to random ad hominem attacks on people you don't know and jacking off to the idea of murdering millions of Russians with dirty bombs.
Millions of Russians will not get murdered with dirty bombs. What would happen to the NHL? Canada will not stand for that. What we have here is a fight amongst "family". The air needs to be cleared. Ukraine is for Ukrainians. Russians should move to Russia.
Problem is that Crimea and the southeastern crescent of Ukraine are historically Russian lands. They won't leave. And I don't see why they should be made to do so.
Ukraine is Ukraine. Russia is Russia. It wasn't long ago many Germans lived in those areas of Ukraine. They left in the 1890's - 1920's to emigrate to the Northern US and prairies of Canada.
Zeek, the loss of life would be minimal should people merely wear face masks, shower and then move away from Moscow never to return. The equivalent of a dozen CT scans later the atmosphere could be seen as a fun vacation as Muscovites pitch tents in the surrounding up-stream country side. Free Vodka will make it all better.
And it would really be your Littlest Napoleon's call as to whether the Ukrainians would be forced to annihilate the Russian cities or not. It is on him. Direct your complaints accordingly.
I agree with you that Timoshenko is a crook. I don't agree Yanukovich is milder. If you look where things currently stand, the game is to get Ukraine's head on straight and have them stop looking for the easy answer. Ukrainians need to do things right, and plan for their future. If the Ukrainians keep pulling crap on the rest of the world, they will remain where they are.
Most other places in the world would rebel against these crooks. Ukrainians who want to be Russian should move to Russia. Ukraine is for Ukrainians. Crimea was a special case of Russia "gifting".
Canuck...you likey down arrow express? It fun, no?
Glad you are on board!
Thousands read the article. Maybe a hundred or so read the comments. Down arrows mean nothing.
DOwn arrows are a badge of honor here.
re Yanukovich stole BILLIONS from the Ukrainian people
...as opposed to the TRILLIONS that Wall St stole from the American people
And why beholdest thou the speck that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Matt 7:3
There is no God and that book is BULLSHIT.
We are all alone. It is up to us to help each other and to make life better for future generations. Ya, we are fucked.
re There is no God
Oh yeah? So who does Lloyd work for again?
That was a misquote. He meant to say he does his "Dog's work". Blankfiend licks his dog clean and cleans up the crap in a similar manner.
The worst part about you is not the stupidity. It's the association of Number 6 with your stupidity.
c`mon, wall street zio-banksters stole trillions of dollars with subprime ponzi sheme and still get more trillions to spend from US tax payers. And nobody in jail.
"Private gains, Public losses" for the zio-banks arent capitalism.
"You know what's absurd? Iraqi weapons of mass destruction."
Don't forget the incubators.
and the Niger yellowcake.
and Valerie Plame
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
That is not even part of full facts...
What was your point?
Full facts? I presented a link to empty belly facts. Do with them as you wish.
Hey, so Russia got Crimea, should that not kinda even out the gas bill??? Negotiate for fuck sake.
You just posted a wikipedia link. That could mean quite a few things...
A.) You are a college freshman at a half rate Canadian college taking your first Econ 101 class and failing miserably because your government has brainwashed you all of these years into thinking everything is right with the world and wikipedia is always right.
B.) O.F.A is paying you to post here
C.) You really are trying to figure out the truth and are a bit misguided and coming off as a troll.
Your indecision is not becoming. If you want to influence people and make friends, you need to work on your game.
Chucky...Sounds like something that was true several years ago but less so now after institution of peer review. If you have doubts about the veracity of a Wiki post you can participate and submit your concerns with appropriate foot notes/citations.
You see Chuck, no single reference or citation should be accepted as definitive on any topic.
And it is the noted citations within the Wiki postings that should be considered in your BULLSHIT critique, not the website, not after all it has done to improve its value to scholars and laypersons alike, not after millions of dollars of contributions and efforts.
Ahhh... the Good Ol' Days...
or Gadafi massacre of his own people.
Me thinks the Russians got another "beautiful nibble"...
Let's hope the Satanic Leprachaun troll has been compromised by Russian secret service with pictures or a video of himself and Tymoshenko "bad back and all" in her wheelchair with a full rubber body suit and zippered mask that includes an entourage of midgets doing some good S&M that will make it's debut on youtube???
If anything will ruin anybody that is anybody in this fucked up Country of ours it's something juicy that involves extramarital action. Just ask General David been ballin?
And nobody shot him, what a damn shame! He was fair game in that war zone ;)
would .... have .... been .... hilarious.
Why shoot them, they do a better job helping out the Russians alive rather than dead, god forbid they get someone competent in there if one of them is killed, the Russians dont want to take that chance LOL
Hopefully Brennan brought the new Kiev elites iPods filled with Oblowhard's speeches for them to bask in.
No wonder they're buzzing our destroyer in the Black Sea with a fighter jet.
What the U.S. has done could be considered by many as acts of war.
C.I.A. Director Brennan visiting Kiev is an admission that the neo-Nazi putsch there was at the least aided and abetted by the U.S.
Like I said, an act of war.
Makes you wonder if its a deliberate provocation.
Why confirm it, these guys continue to lie whatever as SoP.
Even saying CIA to Russians here in the US gets you a foul reaction.
I too find this confirmation strange.
Head fake?
It's not strange at all, AngloZionists are feeling threatened and are looking for a pretext for an all-out war with Russia. If they get to control Russia's resources directly or through proxies, China would be a lesser pain. Only, they were hoping for a trigger-happier Putin.
Your Labradodle analogy IsApplicable, if with a slight anomaly: Bears don't like canine toys...
Get a fucking grip America!
If the people of the world are fooled by the likes of Sotero, Cameron, Merkel, Hollande, Erdogan, Sotero, Putin, Sotero, and Sotero,
Who wouldnt believe this bollocks? In the digital age Mr Clapham, or whatever the cunt is called couldnt call his mother without survielence, never mind fuck off to a forgien country.
Jesus Christ, even I know where this cunt has been, or is he a has been? Dog knows.
Point is, the interwebs have changed the game. We all know.
Stupid fucking cunts what they are. Boo, you idiots, you've been framed.
;-)
FLASH!!!!
I have just been given the information about what the assumed name was Brennan and his partner used:
Col. Ben Dover
His partner on the trip used the assumed name Eileen Dover.
There was also an Oriental taxi driver with a limp that they simply called Irene. Whether her full name might have been Irene Dover is presently uknown.
Benjamin Dover used to post here, years ago - he was hilarious. I miss him, and Marla, and Project Mayhem...
False Flag Event in 6...5...4...3...2...
Can't get this song out of my head...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6cn0mLJVZY
At the recent UN meeting on Ukraine, the US representitve alluded to Youtube as proof of evil Russian intent. Citing the videos, the US talking puppet said that the video proved Russia had sent agents. We all can see the men in military uniforms and these are Russia agents. Well, the bitch needs to take afew trip to the Eastern European former Soviet nations. Military gears is standard wear for many people, especially small town and rural. Most males are veterans of manditory 2 years in the military. AK's and uniforms are as common as dirt. But of course the bitch knows this, she spouts lies as written be the zio-noecon masters of Washington DC, a city not America's capital, but a world center of some insane zio-neocon imperial dream, directed mostly by the great centers of Finance Capital. London, New York, Brussels and other EU banking centers.
Obviously the Kiev government is not legal, they burned and shot their way to power, with paid protestors earning 40-50 Euro a day for thugs, much, much higher for commanders. Nobody disputes this, not even the rioters who flaunted their high pay and family supporting wage paid by the USA and EU. But they were not foreign agents, just working for a foreign corporation, i.e the CIA. As their boss' recent visit highlights. The western media has been so co opted by the CIA and Banker led think tanks of Washington, that the lies beggar discription. Nazi tactics by the former free country of America, that is long since over. The Finance boys, and we know fuck all who they are, are using their unlimited power to direct the Imperial Forces to do their work. Of course average Americans think we are freedom spreading again, what bloody fools, ignorant and overfed dupes. I have given up awaiting the day they wake up from a McDonals food trance! Ain't gonna happen, give me a Big Mac with extra sauce and cheese.
Makes perfect sense given the CIA's sordid history of assasinations, bomings, and overthrows of legitimate governments around the world.
i like to see those famous cigars they want to give to Castro.
We need Rand Paul to disband the CIA along with the IRS in 2017!
Yeah, like they won't send him on a little "goodwill" tour of Dallas.
The picket fence is still there.
Nice convertible!
That is the damned problem.
That is why there are no political solutions.
The price of Liberty and Freedom will be paid in blood. Same as it ever was.
Have him work on repealing the law of gravity too, just as likely to happen.
If, as Carney says, senior level visits of intelligence officials are a standard means of fostering mutually beneficial security cooperation, then why did Brennan travel under an assumed name? Is that SOP, Carney?
Lie. Lie about lying. Lie about lying about lying.
See many a pol and crat for background, but Holder is a prime specimen.
The Secret Team is at work not only in Ukraine but all across Russia's western border. This is nothing new. It has been going on for decades, yet is ignored by the propaganda rags as a causal factor for the current destabilization we are seeing.
On another note, this is a very convenient time for Russia to get caught up in a border skirmish. If I remember correctly, Israel has set a tentative plan to strike Iran this year. Maybe they'll just wait until Russia is bogged down in Ukraine to launch their strikes.
Brennan kept referring to the Ukrainian people as "pipelinians."
with the help of are soros gay and transgender assignment funding soon they will just be fractured folks.
the gay nazi monsantonites of chevronistan.
Well..I did meet with our puppets...eeerrr... partners in Ukrania, but I have nothing to do with an order to start full scale military operacion in the east of that country. Really. Cia never does such things. Ask Obama, he never lyes.
Headache.
Brennan has a girlfriend in Kiev and his broad in Langley is not supposed to know about it.
Why is everything with CIA a conspiracy to overthrow a foreign government just because the firm's Director is having a good time out?
C'mon you gotta do better than this.Maybe just hypothetical speaking, the man had a few drinks in Kiev and met a few guys and one thing lead to another and before you know it the topic of guns came up. You know, guys talking shop and so. Then he said he could help with supplies from a surplus.
As long as the US taxpayer gets a refund, what is the big deal?
Not sure about the down arrow. I liked it!
Of course, some may not understand the humor of it.
pods
Of course! That's why he went under an assumed name so his babe in Langley wouldn't figure it out. Looks like that got all screwed up now.
We need to clean house in America and get rid of all these "Secret" mother fuckers, once and for all. Starting at the TOP. This same old shit just keeps going on and on and on, in America. No wonder we're hated so vehemently around the globe. I don't blame them. What a pathetic excuse to be representing freedom and democracy.
Yep
I nominate MDB for president and CD for secretary of war.
Somehow I do not believe that they'd want the job.
But I can understand the sentiment.
No one has pointed out so far something interesting: only Russian media were reporting this at first. Now the White House is making statements about Brennan's trip and from the wording it sounds as if they were asked about it. Makes me wonder if journalists in the MSM over here are paying attention to the Russian news.
RT News, fair and balanced.....for real.
when reporting others. Within Russia, you would need RT, USA MSM, German MSM and China MSM to have a balance view. Same with other big powers. Within Israel, you need Press.TV.
US "reporters" are mostly gagging on the Bath House dick.
in this weird time, the reporters only want to save their jobs. Unfortunately, by promoting a ww3, they would not save their job, but only contributing to the risk of extermination of their loveones and the Humankind..
So this is why Brennan made his big visit?... If I were Russia I'd call it a day!
Time to make the big pivotal announcement that their embassies across the Anglo-Israeli-American front will be closed for business with expulsions of all the dips from these host Countries in Moscow.
The "olive branch" if it still remains at this stage will come in the form of preserving embassies and consulates with select EU members... I think Germany is the only one of true importance left in the Union the rest will follow Brussels and the EU like the trained lapdogs they are.
If the Germans and the remnants of the NATO aligned Eastern border patrol don't manage to stop Washington and Israel it it's very likely we'll end up having a war.
Germany was permanently emasculated nearly 70 years ago to the day. Leave us out of this, we've paid our dues and then some.
Even if you are left out of it, your gas and energy will not be. My condolences
Merkel sealed the fate of Germany when she cancelled all nuclear deals after Kyoto. I'm not a fan of nuclear energy but what difference does or doesn't nuclear energy in Germany make when France's energy supply is 50% nuclear? Check a map. Germany's aluminum smelters take massive amounts of energy. They closed the profitable black coal mines and are now importing coal at higher prices and then her government collapsed to the green lobby. We all know who is funding this green movement.
"Leave us out of this, we've paid our dues and then some."..
Precisely W. Russia feels the same way as well. The same ones that "emasculated" Germany 72 years ago are the same ones in Washington, London, Paris and Tel Aviv that now want to emasculate Russia.
They've always been the problem.
It's time for Germany to find it's fortune and peace Eastward.
The Merkel-Putin Pact.
How could Germany be neutral? If there is a war, wouldnt US use their nuclear bombs in Germany bases? The Japs are smarter they let US bases in their sacred land but no nuclear weapon. They pay a terrible price to have this excuse.
Unfortunately, some years ago, it come out that US violate the agreement.
I'm actually surprised at the bare-knuckle realpolitik the Obama administration is engaging in. I mean this administration is starting to make Rumsfeld et al look like freakin' amateurs when it comes to lying to the American public. It's pretty shocking. And unfortunately it's exactly the opposite of speaking softly and carrying a big stick.
The American government is supposed to play geopolitical chess. Unlike many here, I accept that. Playing it badly is a whole different thing...
Chess is one thing, fomenting war that gets a shitload of people dead is another game entirely. Rummy could do so well at fabrication.
Since the 90s, with the demise of URRS, the US chess palyer/warriors were force out. Now only monopoly and casino players for US diplomatic corps.
Kissinger is a monster, but a great chess player in international diplomacy.
So they purge 300 top military brass last year and they put this piece of shit in charge. This is a coup, with spook cunts at langley in charge. This is fuckin wonderful:(.
"Mr President, a war right now will only benefit the Financial Interests."
"So, you are on board, then, General?"
Taking all US and EU actions into account, I have concluded they are intent on war. A rational look at what they have done and are doing leads to the conclusion that they are hell bent on pushing this into open conflict. Why is the only question remaining. Many believe that the failed Euro empire is falling apart, and we all know the USA lives off of the world reserve currency and pays for little more than half of all expenditures, plus record debt at all levels. This can not go on, war seems to be their answer. Marc Faber was 100% correct. "They will print and print and print. Then they will go to war." Asked with whom he responded. "America can always find someone to go to war with." Marc nailed it, as recent events seems to bear out.
I respectfully disagree. Obama and his crowd simply are unable to conduct a war, especially one of this weight. Their MO is to destabilize regions. They destroyed Libya and Syria this way. They don't give a rat's ass about the people of the Ukraine (who are NOT all nazi thugs while the russians are little sweethearts, I am tiring of that meme). The Soros/Brzenski mafia will be just as pleased to sink the Ukraine into a never ending civil war/family feud like exists in Lebanon. That means the Russians will have a sore on their flank for years. In fact, that's pretty much playing out right now.
Release the dogs of war!
OK, back to Top Gear BBC.
"Hey, Dad, lookit that bright meteor coming down!"
"Get in the shelter, NOW, little Johnny!"
must.have.war.must.steal.russian.resources.
If they can get Ukraine can we get Siberia? It is just a hop, skip and a jump from Alaska. Sarah Palin said she could see it from her place. (I know...I know...She really did not say that but some comedian did.)
We are not greedy...no. What do WE get out of it???
/sarc
Dig Marc, but many others have fortold this.......................same as it ever was.......
A little diidy by yours truely.....August 2012........
http://slopeofhope.com/2014/03/globalists-gas-game-theory-ep-end-game-by...
http://slopeofhope.com/2012/08/the-oil-machineby-bdi.html
Why? To leave a flaming bag of squat at Putin's doorstep, in the hope Russia will step into it like in Afghanistan. And recall Brzenzski was Obama's self-described "mentor".
Why? To leave a flaming bag of squat at Putin's doorstep, in the hope Russia will step into it like in Afghanistan. And recall Brzenzski was Obama's self-described "mentor".
If and when the Russians release another recording, this time of Brenann, proving that all the "Russian" propaganda in fact, fact.
Hmm. Something tells me that recording is being readied for release as we type.
I'm guessing they get Charlie Sheen to play Brennan.
I have heard that Brennan is little barry's "handler" going back to barry's days of not attending Columbia U. Any comments on this?
Every US president since (and including) Reagan was a poser, and they all had handlers usually from well before they entered politics.
The same will be said of every US president that follows Obozo.
This is reality at the end of the Empire. All other empires from before were the same. This end-game script was written by the Hittites, probably, and it's worked so well humans haven’t bothered coming up with another way to destroy the future of a once-great nation.
I'm relieved that the President has at least sent the CIA director. Now he should be prepared to send in several dozen advanced fighters and NATO military units.
Hopefully the Ukrainians are mobilizing and have assembled several hundred dirty bombs for use on Russian cities should the Little Napoleon order his thugs to make further incursions into the Ukraine.
Regarding Crimea, how many cities in Russia should be made uninhabitable for thousands of years will be determined over the next few weeks by the Ukrainian people. Russia will pay a heavy price for letting the "little guy" drive this bus.
novictim = no mind
Says *a* clown. (And don't try to paint all clowns as being as stupid as you.)
Filthy bolshevik.
I'm relieved that the President has at least sent the CIA director.
I'm relieved that the President has at least sent the CIA DICTATOR...FIFY.
Yes. The President needs to send YOU since you are so willing to die for that region. So get off of your ass and sign up today.
Not me, pal. I will fight for my own and my friends in the States if need be. But I have no Ukranian friends here or abroad.
Are you a psychopathic warmonger who has not tasted the disgust and tragedy of battle?
Let me tell you a little secret...and this is how I KNOW that, most likely, you are neither in the military nor have you ever served.
There are very few military men who want to fight...on ANY side. The vast majority of military personnel hate war.
So go autofellate because you are spineless and capable of sucking your own penis.
So stop behaving like a God Damned pissmeyer and...and grow a spine because your bullshit bravado just does not sell here well.
Let's go hunting. My name is Thomas O'Brien. My address is 12223B Woodside Ave, Lakeside, CA, USA. What is yours?
Or do you like hiding under a psuedonym?
Let's go hunting. I am an easy target.
The NWO globalists, the FED and the CIA are attacking the United States of America. Sell your dollars and buy BitCoin.
you mean gold
Ok i see a shitload of broken eggs, but no omlete!
thats a filthy russian lie.
brenenananan was not in kiev he was at the franklin house in boys town having a back rub and a lad wank.
although his penile sheath was moving over a period of cia paid work time nothing of any consequence issued forth.
stop the lies.
sempre fido