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Putin's Top 10 Q&A Quotes: "The US Will Cut Off Their Nose To Spite Their Face"

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Originally posted at Russia Today,

Ukraine’s crisis was, predictably, at the center of Vladimir Putin’s annual televised interview. He said the situation can only be solved through a compromise between internal players. Below are the president’s ten most significant quotes.

“[Yanukovich] didn’t have the heart to sign an act that would see force used against his citizens”

Answering a question from an ex-Berkut - Ukrainian special forces - commander as to whether the ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich has always been such a “weakling and traitor,” Putin said that Yanukovich did his duty as he thought was right, proper and necessary.

“I spoke with him, certainly, many times, during the crisis, and after he arrived in the Russian Federation; we talked about using force… The gist of his answer was that he thought about using force many times, but he didn’t have the heart to sign an act that would see force used against his citizens,” Putin said.

“Faina Ivanovna, dear, what would you need Alaska for?”

Asked by a pensioner if Alaska could follow Crimea’s example, Putin said “We’re a northern country. 70 percent of our territory is in the North or Far North. Is Alaska in the southern hemisphere? It’s cold there as well. Let’s keep cool about it,” Putin said.

According to Putin, he is also aware of the fact that some Russians call Alaska “Ice-Krym” (“Krym” is the Russian for Crimea).

“Tanks, jets against own people?! Are they nuts?”

The Russian President said he thought that asking activists in the southeast of Ukraine to hand in their weapons was the right approach, but this measure should also be applied to armed Ukrainian nationalist groups.

Putin also said that the crisis in Ukraine can only be solved through a compromise in the interests of the Ukrainian people.

“The coup-appointed government in Kiev needs to come to its senses before we can negotiate,” said Putin.

“They don’t want to see us in PACE? Better lost than found!”

Russia won’t insist on staying in several international organizations, but isn’t planning to walk out in protest, Putin said.

“The world is developing intensively, and if there a player who wants to turn it unipolar and align all organizations according to their will, it won’t succeed,” the president added.

“It’s hard to speak with people who whisper at home, afraid of US surveillance.”

Putin noted that there are some problems in the dialogue between Moscow and its European partners.

“Many Western countries have voluntarily relinquished a large part of their sovereignty. That is, among other things, the result of bloc policy. It’s sometimes really difficult to negotiate with them on geopolitical issues,” he said.

“It’s difficult to talk to people who whisper even at home, afraid of Americans eavesdropping on them. It’s not a figure of speech, not a joke, I’m serious.”

“Obama is a decent, courageous man, he would save me from drowning”

To the question whether Obama would save the Russian President from drowning, Putin answered that the US president is “a decent, courageous man” and “would save” him.

However, Putin stressed that the relationship between them wasn’t a close one.

“In addition to intergovernmental relations, there are personal relations, but I don’t think I have a close personal relationship with Obama,” the president said.

“You’re an ex-intelligence agent, I have something to do with intelligence, let’s use professional terms” – Putin to Snowden

Russia’s president received a question from Edward Snowden who was granted political asylum last August. Snowden asked Putin if Russia is involved in “intercepting, storing and analyzing the data on communication carried out by millions of people” and whether Russia’s president thinks this kind of mass control is fair and justified.

Putin stressed Snowden was an ex-intelligence agent, while he himself used to be in intelligence, so Russia’s president said he would be speaking “using professional terms.”

“First of all, we have strict laws governing the usage of any special means – including ones to monitor telephone conversations or the internet - by intelligence. This regulation makes it necessary to get a court order to surveil an individual. That’s why we can’t carry out mass surveillance, and we don’t, in accordance with our law,” Putin said.

“No plans to remain President for life”

Putin, who served as president for two consecutive terms between 2000 and 2008 and was elected again in 2012, was asked if he wanted to remain Russia’s head of state for life.

“No,” was his answer.

“Russia didn’t annex Crimea by force, but created conditions for people’s self-determination”

“Russia did not annex Crimea by force. Russia created conditions – indeed, with the help of special formations and the armed forces, I’ll be honest – for the free expression of will by people living in Crimea and Sevastopol,” Putin said.

“The decision on joining [Russia] was made by the people themselves. Russia responded to that appeal and accepted Crimea and Sevastopol into its family. That’s natural, it couldn’t be any other way.”

“Punishing others, the US will cut off their nose to spite their face”

Putin was asked why the US can do whatever it wants and no one punishes them, while attempts are being made to punish Russia.

“The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face,” he said.

 

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Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:03 | 4672642 Iam_Silverman
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"He was recently quoted as saying the US was not a functioning democracy,"

Because it's (designed to be) a Constitutional Republic?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:55 | 4671560 kurt
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I believe he is smart and has had countless hours of training, drilling on NLP. The problem is that Obama is a "construct" whose main instruction is to DO AS HE IS TOLD. I'd suppose up to and including the secret tapes of indiscretion, even possibly a remote control imbed that will kill him slowly and in a most horrible fashion, not that he can't be threaten and executed  without such a mechanism.

No, they built him and they built him to function as designed. His legacy isn't important to him as he never expected it to be important knowing their primary mandate is "to kill the dollar." Therefore, he see's a controlled world, post USA, with controlled history. For if his history was told in terms of the timeline of america before the coup, the killing of Kennedy and the Bush Cult, that history would be atrocious as the history of the USA is the Constitution born of the enlightenment and higher hopes for mankind. Shame really. Shame on Obama, Clinton, Bush's, Jason Group, CFR, and shame on you; those who facilitated or self justified inaction in a victory for avarice and darkness. I really hate you fuckers.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:40 | 4671921 drendebe10
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,..now could u tell us all how u really feel. ..

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:00 | 4671968 One of We
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LOmutherfuckingL!!!!

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:41 | 4672158 yatikto
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You know,  there is a God in heaven who gives and takes away.

 

We have leaders who are bred in RealityTV environment, where reality is simulated and scripted.  And its done for a particular effect and to reach a particular demographic.  That's why when things go off script they are so incompetent.

I gotta say that listening to Putin I am astounded by his wisdom that seems genuine.  I could be wrong, but he just makes sense in a positive and helpful way.

Unfortunately who knows who will be after him.  But like I said,  God gives and takes away.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:44 | 4672487 lakecity55
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you left off the sarcasm tag.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:39 | 4671739 BOPOH
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Why ZH does't allow to use cyrillic writing? This is not fair.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:39 | 4671914 Mine Is Bigger
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??!

It seems you can!

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Oh, I see.  I guess you are right.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:04 | 4672647 Iam_Silverman
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"Why ZH does't allow to use cyrillic writing? This is not fair."

Please forward all communications to Boris Altovkrap for translation then.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:46 | 4672160 luckystrike6
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please, please go to Russia. Burn your passport and don't come back.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:31 | 4671494 vic and blood
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@socalbeach

Splendid link is much appreciated!

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:38 | 4671514 b_thunder
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“First of all, we have strict laws governing the usage of any special means – including ones to monitor telephone conversations or the internet - by intelligence. This regulation makes it necessary to get a court order to surveil an individual. That’s why we can’t carry out mass surveillance, and we don’t, in accordance with our law,” Putin said.

If you never lived in  a totalitarian, especially socialist totalitarin state, you cannot imagine how excruciatingly FUNNY  that statement is!   Courts?  In Russia? You mean a dude in a robe that reads a piece of paper prepped for him by the security services?  (yes, exactly like FISA court here.)

Are there courts in Cuba?  How about North Korea? Yes, there are. But do they matter?  Would you ever consider any of their decisions as 100% objective?

Did Stazi need court approval to spy?  Did KGB need court approvals?  Come on, "free" people of the "West," are you just as brain-dead as the russians?  Doyou really think that modern KGB is "good" and NSA is "bad"?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:47 | 4671544 Keyser
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The bottom line is that Putin is winning the popularity game over the Image King himself, Obama. That's all that matters in an age where most people have an attention span of less than 5 seconds. Those that have been ground to dust under the boot of facism, socialism, communism and democracy matters little in the grand scheme. 

 

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:43 | 4672484 lakecity55
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Perhaps the greatest difference is that Putin is 100% for Russia.

Bath House is not an American, at least culturally, if not foreign.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:52 | 4671559 NoPantsSpongeBob
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He also says that unlike USA, Russia does not have the resources to afford the kind of infrastructure that NSA has.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:13 | 4672107 UselessEater
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I doubt this. The Stasi, KGB, etc all had tremendous manpower resources to surveille and monitor people.

Now there is tech (govt and corp) that can do the job more efficiently. Seems unlikely the old KGB would have overlooked this as they morphed into their present structures. After all the spy tech can be used for oligarch financial and business gains in Russia and aboard, as well as controlling the population who end up in gulags if they're non-compliant.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:47 | 4672165 yatikto
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Its a question of philosophy.  US intelligence bought into chaos theory hook like and sinker.  All data is processed and ran thru filters to find useful data.

To become invisible you just need to get off the grid, so we'll find out how stupid reliance on that approach is.

But you see, that infrastructure is not built to track those guys who hide in caves.  Its built to spy on and dominate technologically advanced economies.

 

Russians don't agree with that strategy,  the fact that they can't afford it is one of the reasons.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:05 | 4672308 UselessEater
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Russian leaders and oligarchs seem old enough to have been alive and well due the soviet KGB era and many are not KGB but now key business heads with political leverage.

I am unclear as to why their philosophy would have changed and since wealth is always stolen and laundered from the "masses" I am unclear as to how they are unable to afford electronic survelleince from the statellites, phone and tech companies.

Would appreciate any links you may have to inform me of your view point.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:07 | 4672650 Iam_Silverman
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"Russia does not have the resources to afford the kind of infrastructure that NSA has."

Well, I can think of one new resource they have that the NSA doesn't (at least any more). [E.S.]

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:53 | 4671578 Snidley Whipsnae
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Have you been in a US courtroom recently? Have you faced a judge with a public defender on your side? 

How is Judge Judy better than a Russian Judge reading from a script?

Russia simply hasn't financialized it's prisons and judicial systems yet.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:09 | 4671633 downwiththebanks
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What modern state has a greater percentage of its population behind bars than any other in the history of human civilization?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:38 | 4672153 The Blank Stare
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Come on, "free" people of the "West," are you just as brain-dead as the russians?

Where the fuck did THAT come from? Just cuz I'm diggin Obama getting bitch slapped, don't assume for a second that I'd want to live in Russia or New Zealand.

Fuck the NSA!

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:59 | 4672513 samsara
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Don't explain your mindset, They won't understand it.

They only have 2 dimensions.

They would also be the ones who would say "Oh, you didn't like Bush? So you must love Obama then...."

Ah, No. They were/are both the same.... (blue smoke rising from their heads)

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:49 | 4671557 MedicalQuack
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Problem with President Obama is that he spends too much time like many others in the virtual worlds and not the real world and that selfie from Biden with the two of them kind of showed that in my opinion. 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:53 | 4671573 Imminent Collapse
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They are all puppets. I wonder what the puppet master has in mind for this little drama? When does the depopulation begin?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:55 | 4671584 Snidley Whipsnae
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Perhaps it's already started... ebola?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:41 | 4672056 napper
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The US military has already killed a few hundred thousand to a million in the Middle East.

 

When the Petrodollar ends and starvation sets in at home, there will probably be another few hundred thousand to a mil.

 

And if the shadow powers decide to gamble on winning a nuclear war, the number will certainly jump to 8 or 9 digits.

 

Give it about 5 to 10 years.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 20:54 | 4671580 I Write Code
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Alaska ... Fort Bragg ... Hollywood ... Havad Yad ... Washington DC bingo!

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:05 | 4671615 Duc888
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Arius: FYI, Obama is perhaps the smartest President the US has ever had.

 

Doooooooood.

 

Mediocre student.

No work experience

No college transcipts.

 

Can you give an example of the Serial Droner in Charges' awesome Vulcan Mind Melding capabilities...

 

Throw me a fukken bone here or sumpin'

 


Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:12 | 4671856 luckystrike6
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At the end of the day, it does seem apparent that the NWO that Obama's a part of is not going for the same goal as Putin's order. We have, at least, two Orders trying to manage the world, and they are to some extent at odds with one another. At least Obama didn't spend his salad days in Dresden, eavesdropping and assassinating people. Is there no such thing as compare and contrast anymore, or any kind of relative morality?

Putin gets asked whether his country massively spies on its citizens; of course, he answers "no", because it was a softball question set up beforehand by him and Snowden. His quick response is no reason to believe his answer. Russia lacks even the bare outline of a judicial system capable of producing its own home-grown Snowden that would blow the lid off the massive oppression that happens there, daily. To buy into Putin's garbage is simply to hate your own country so much that you'll take any excuse to excoriate it. I understand the impulse, but historically you'll just join a long list of useful idiots from Ezra Pound to that knucklehead who went over to North Korea, if you actually believe the shit that comes out of this gangster's mouth.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:26 | 4672129 UselessEater
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At least Obama didn't spend his salad days in Dresden, eavesdropping and assassinating people.

Kill lists

Whistleblower persecution track record

guantanamo bay still open

NSA spying permitted

IRS attack dogs along party lines permitted

Benghazi protection denied

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:23 | 4672687 shovelhead
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These are Obama's salad tossing years.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:14 | 4671653 luckystrike6
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I like how everyone here goes bonkers on Obama (formerly Bush) and the incredibly remote possibility that he would declare martial law and make himself President for life...

and meanwhile, after his 3rd term and with no actual sign of giving up central power, let alone control behind the scenes, the question put to Putin is "will you declare yourslef president for life?" and when he says, in a word, "no" everyone believes him because he's such an awesome guy and, you know, Russia Today isn't biased or anything compared to the NYT and the WP.

Ridiculous. I truly don't get how the few intelligent and freedom-loving, free-thinking and Constitutionally guided Americans left, on this board, can drink Vladimir Putin's koolaid and pretend he's anythin other than a KGB thug in a cheap suit. Is this what it's come to? Anything's better than your own government?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4671665 FredFlintstone
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He's a man's man?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:39 | 4671740 luckystrike6
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I used to work for Russian gangsters who took over the taxi company I drove for. I see no difference between him and any of them. A violent little shit in a cheap suit.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:43 | 4671756 FredFlintstone
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Part of us love that. Tony Montana, "Scarface". Now there was a man's man.

I doubt the suits are cheap, maybe he needs a better tailor.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:00 | 4671814 luckystrike6
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What's with the downvotes? Seems like no one is readin or thinking about what I'm saying first.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:36 | 4671908 I Write Code
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I think everyone's reading you, but as bad as Putin is, he strikes many as better than Obama.

You know, bin Laden's old Koran quote, "people prefer the strong horse".  Putin may be a big ass, but Obama is small donkey.

Yes folks, it's come to this.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:09 | 4672099 luckystrike6
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I mean, can't we have standards? We got a saying - don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. As in, just because corrupt oligarchs have been running the country for awhile, doesn't mean that corrupt Russian oligarchs are magically better than they were 150 years ago.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 01:21 | 4672222 The Blank Stare
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I think you need more friends. Ya know, the kind where you sit around the poker table trade insults and bullshit.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 11:07 | 4673031 Uncle Remus
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doesn't mean that corrupt Russian oligarchs are magically better than they were 150 years ago

You're likely correct in that assessment. However, the current batch of corrupt American oligarchs are in fact worse. You need to wrap your mind around the concept of relative.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:49 | 4671940 Ifigenia
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i would not buy Putin propaganda, but one thing, compare to USA, in this century, Russia is less opressive, internationally, and kill a lot lot less people around the World. Not to mention the economic harship that USA is imposing around the World with her QE. 4 trillions dollars and we have to bear it in silence.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:35 | 4672145 luckystrike6
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In this century? You mean after you guys lost the cold war and had to spend the first decade of this century rebuilding what's left of your shitty empire by attacking Chechnyans, Georgians, etc. in pathetic little wars?

How about last century, when you murdered at least 10 million Ukrainians and Poles? Are we starting over now? Do you get to claim you're the good guys because you have no free elections, just some KGB officer in charge who promises you don't spy on people? Lol.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:03 | 4672307 Volkodav
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You're just really posting stupid...

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 17:50 | 4674056 Ifigenia
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I didnt lost the cold war? i am just a small fish living in a satrap of US empire here in Europe during all the time.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:40 | 4672342 AnAnonymous
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. I truly don't get how the few intelligent and freedom-loving, free-thinking and Constitutionally guided Americans left, on this board, can drink Vladimir Putin's koolaid and pretend he's anythin other than a KGB thug in a cheap suit. Is this what it's come to? Anything's better than your own government?

______________________________

Putin's oozing 'americanism'? Putin is that white guy who pledges to protect white people?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:35 | 4672476 lakecity55
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I do not think he wears cheap suits.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 21:39 | 4671743 The_Prisoner
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All along my point has been that freedom minded individuals should support Putin's Russia, because if Russia falls, it is curtains for whatever shred of freedom people of the world still have. There will be no opporsing or hinding from the zionist reich, which some might refer to as NWO.

Putin makes this point himself:

“The world is developing intensively, and if there a player who wants to turn it unipolar and align all organizations according to their will, it won’t succeed,”

QED

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:01 | 4671819 luckystrike6
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But consider the source!

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:03 | 4671833 luckystrike6
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Putin could claim to be the second coming of Thomas Jefferson, but even a cursory glance at how he runs his own country as an oligarchic patronage-based feudal dictatorship ought to make you think twice before just chucking your lot in with his. Is your comment an example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing? Or do you truly credit him as some kind of fountain of liberty?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:17 | 4671867 The_Prisoner
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Judge by actions not by words. Since coming to power in Russia Putin has been a pimp on the ass of US foreign policy which, inarguably, killed more innocent people than any other nation in the last 50 years than everyone else, combined.

But you seem to think like Madeleine Albright: it was worth it.

Your words indicates you have Stocholm Syndrome, your captor being the "USA is #1" ideas stamped in your mind that prevent you to think that anyone other than an American could possibly be right. I can't really blame you. Reciting the pledge of allegiance every day in school must be pretty effective brainwashing.

 

 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:26 | 4671883 luckystrike6
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Meh. Leave out the interpersonal interpretation and insults, and maybe we can talk (you really have no idea where I live, who I am or what my alignment is). In any event, I think you sum up fairly well your view that the US is the greatest perpetrator of evil and therefore anyone who opposes it must be good.

I happen to disagree; I have one good friend who was a diplomat in Rwanda during the holocaust there, and another who goes back and forth to Tibet to try to fight the Chinese any way he can, and both wish that the US had taken a more active role. I'm not a diplomat, but I'm a very highly internationalized person, and while I will not step foot in the United States, I also see the value of the Pax Americana as do many people in many parts of the world, and consider that it might well be the end of civilization if the Russians or some other thug gangsters were suddenly able to challenge it.

//I want to add that I have a very complex relationship vis-a-vis the US, and a highly fluid one. I am also an NRA member and have deep roots there, but I left after I decided it wasn't the country I grew up in or belong in anymore. So. Take what you want out of that. But I personally think you just hate America and want to latch onto even the rottenest dictator who offers an alternative -- and my advice to you would be to go live in some truly shitty dictatorships for awhile, watch people get beaten on the street by the police, and then reconsider how bad exactly the US is for the rest of the barbaric fuckin world out there.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:12 | 4672105 luckystrike6
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again, why the downvotes?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 01:02 | 4672189 yatikto
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you seem to have inferiority complex if concerned about downvotes.

But in any case, your arguments come down to caricatures and hyperboles that are emotionally charged and therefore not useful as arguments.

Your PaxAmericana is running on a credit card that is not paid for by US and never will be.  Contries are trying to find an exit, and Putin is emerging as a leader of that movement.  Ukraine was botched so badly that it exposed incompetence, shortsightedness of US that more and more people see as dangerous.

You have not figured this out, but you will.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:32 | 4672713 shovelhead
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Probably because that pile of Pax Americana you stepped in is getting all over the rug.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:34 | 4672339 The_Prisoner
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Au contraire. I recognise the contribution form the US to mankind in the form of the thoughts and actions of the founding fathers. However, to quote Marla:

" given the manner you have quashed the opportunity- almost unique in the history of the species- created by an impossibly rare coexistence of liberty, private property, free markets, the rise of scientific method, and freedom of expression (to name just a few) there is more than a passing argument to be made that your society has squandered one of the greatest intellectual and individualistic fortunes in history."

I am not a russophile or hater of the United States, however I am a man who calls a spade a spade. And at this point in time the USA finds inteself on the wrong side of history as far the advancement of mankind is concerned.

And your diplomat friends are abroad doing the bidding of their genocidal masters in the State Department, who specialise in destabilising the world and producing the very genocides your friend portends to care about. Is the mourning the children of Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan as well?

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:51 | 4672499 samsara
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No, his is a personal development problem.

I "Pledged to the FLAG ....... and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands (symbolizes)...

I pledged to a REPUBLIC. Not a Democracy.

LuckyStrikeOut is demented or a troll.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4671946 Ifigenia
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First thing first, finish unipolar system by supporting Putin, afterward back to support USA. to reconstruct a check and balance equilibrium in international arena.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:38 | 4672152 luckystrike6
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Putin is a thug. Supporting him does nothing except drag the world back 50 years.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 17:57 | 4674063 Ifigenia
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hehe, at this moment empire is my worst enemy, because it is hijacked by banksters, zionists and neocons.

Think who cause the misery to the World in general and americans 99sheep in particular in 2008 with subprime ponzis? And who use QE since with 4 trillions dollars printed to destroy americans middle class and real economy to save the international zio-banksters? certainly not Putin, or am i wrong?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:24 | 4672324 The_Prisoner
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Spot on.

You must first free the tree of liberty from the kudzu vines of statism and zionism. Only then it will grow again. 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:35 | 4672040 napper
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What about the bankrupt warmongering mafia / police state those ruthless shadow powers are running in the US?

 

What about the global crime sydicate - NATO?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:06 | 4672094 luckystrike6
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I'm confused; am I being downvoted anonymously because I said Putin's a dictator?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 02:58 | 4672304 Volkodav
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Yes You are confused..you got that part right...and worse...

rest you do is useless talkings...you know nothing about the subject..

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 04:17 | 4672321 The_Prisoner
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You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.

I do not support Putin because I think he is Thomas Jeffersion. I support him because without a counterpoint to what was refered above as Pax Americana, which I in turn call the Zionist Reich, we will all find out really quick what if feels like being a Palestinian. 

 

 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:10 | 4671853 Addibrux
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Makes me miss the good old days, when WE had a president with a dick.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:31 | 4671895 toadold
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I really, really,shouldn't say this about such a serious subject but the current president of the US doesn't need a dick.....because he is one, and almost perfect Richard.

It's a pity that Valeritis and Moochele won't let him borrow the strap on though.  I guess they are afraid Biden couldn't take it.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:31 | 4672135 luckystrike6
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I'm willing to listen to a lot of well-deserved criticism of our politics and politicians, from Americans, as crazy and stupid as many of them are on this board. But if we cared about the opinion of British "knobs" or "twats" or "yobs" or whatever the fuck you are, we wouldn't have sent your asses packing. So no, your public school snob bullshit isn't funny; just shut up and let the grownups handle it.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:31 | 4672470 lakecity55
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Vlad likes chix.

Bath House takes it up the ass.

Oh, the inhumanity.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:32 | 4672032 fencejumper
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Who, JFK?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 05:52 | 4672396 messystateofaffairs
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Booby is a dick, it's the balls he's missing- and the brains to know how to use them.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:22 | 4671882 earleflorida
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"Ukraine and the grand chessboard"    4/17/14   by Pepe Escobar

http://atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-170414.html 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:32 | 4672030 napper
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It's one of the better articles by Pepe.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 10:18 | 4672877 shovelhead
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Escobar has got a gift for cramming an accurate, I think, bird's eye view into very few words.

PC Roberts has that same economic faculty. A rare treat in jounalism.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:38 | 4671913 Ifigenia
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Snowden lost some points when he appeared in Putin show.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:15 | 4672112 luckystrike6
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Yes, it was sad to see Snowden kiss Putin's ass like that. It was obviously planned by Putin to try to make him look "good" when everyone knows that the Russian gov't already spies on everyone, all the time, and Russia doesn't even have a free media that could expose it.

Poor Snowden has nowhere else to go.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:59 | 4672353 GoldenDonuts
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I've been reading your comments here and I think that maybe the down votes are probably there because it seems to get under your skin. 

You are right about Putin. He is no angel.

But really how can you defend the US actions in the last 45 years.  Vietnam?  A threat to the US?  Iran, Iraq, Afganistan,Libya and now Ukraine.  Oh I forgot wedding partys in Pakistan.  How exactly does blowing those up increase the freedom available in the US of A.  Please point to one example where killing those millions of people has resulted in anything good or lasting.

You can't.

Bring the troops home and do some Country building at home.  Let those other folks build their own damn county.  And if that means $10 gas in Oklahoma then that is just too bad.  Hell $10 gas might be a good thing because nobody is better than Americans at creating new products.  You guys would probably have thoreum powered hovercars running around by the next quarter.   Of course the Japanes would have a better one in two years, The Chinese would have a cheaper one in one year and the Germans would have a faster one three but none of them would ever produce the first one.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:13 | 4674116 Ifigenia
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You get me wrong. Snowden, as any freedom lover, or Justice lover, or even just like me who want to see less wantom killings around the World, must fight the evil that cause this all. US is controlled by a bunch of psicopaths running amok to preserve their own interests, killing outside and inside USA. Now, poping in  Putin show, a cheap propaganda for the prole or sheeps doesnt help his image.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:18 | 4672115 atthelake
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Why?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:23 | 4672125 luckystrike6
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in this person's opinion (i.e. the Russian propaganda line), Vlad is a saint and for Snowden to "attack" him like that was inappropriate, since "everyone knows" the Russian gov't would never, never have a domestic spying program like the evil Americans. Haven't you watched Russia Today lately? Don't you know that the bear-wresting ex-KGB wimp is a champion of human rights?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:28 | 4672461 lakecity55
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All countries stage these events.

Snowden is not what he appears to be, although he did a service to all societies.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:38 | 4672735 shovelhead
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Give him a break.

He probably got tired of the toilet not flushing in his crappy apartment and needed an upgrade.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 23:28 | 4672021 fencejumper
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Good interview with Steve Cohen, Russian expert at NYU, on DemocracyNow today:

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/17/we_are_not_beginning_a_new

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 00:43 | 4672113 luckystrike6
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I hate to trot out the old cold war horse, but,

if all you fuckin commies like Putin so much, why don't you move to Russia?

(edit: I can't wait to see how many downvotes this gets. We can finally count how many fake accounts have been set up by paid Russian propagandists around here).

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 02:33 | 4672290 Fractal Parasite
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Not to be antagonistic, but when you refer to Russia and Communism, do you mean:

1) Pre-bolshevik non-communist Russia up to 1917?
2) Russia as a member of the communist USSR 1917-1991?
3) The non-communist Russian Federation since 1991?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:25 | 4672457 lakecity55
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Just an aside, there is also still a RF CP today, albeit not large enough to control the Duma.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:54 | 4672505 bk1037
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Good comment Lucky Strike. I have known for some time now that ZH is indeed a promoter of pro-Russian or pro-Chinese propaganda, or just as much so, anti-American.

You will be hard pressed to ever see anything posted by ZH that shows Obama or the Dems in a positive light on anything. While I can certainly accept Obama merits his share of criticism, that is not supported by the blatant propaganda leanings by Tyler and the ZH posters in general. I listen when criticism is submitted, I stop listening as much when other views  are not presented. I begin to question the bias then, and here this blog is and has been pro-Russian or anti-American incessantly. It reminds me very much of the Drudge Report in that way. There is a kindred spirit between Republicans and Putin, and one is much more likely to see pro-Republican stuff posted here than pro-Dem if anything pro-American is posted at all.

If i could check this blog out without the politics, I would enjoy it a lot more. The financial news offers insight that is not posted easily elsewhere, includng the Fed and its machinations. However, ZH can't seem to stay out of the politics.

ZH is not always right in finance, the cynical BTFATH references depict quite well the disdain ZH has for capitalism. ZH predicted on many times the collapse of western finance only to see that it did not happen. While capitalism certainly has its share of faults, once more the criticism comes down to why Communism is never criticized or things America may do well acknowledged EVER. I accepted this blog for years with its leanings, but after years, it eventually smells enough to wake up and see what is really going on. And yeah, it is a hell of a way to make a living. You can have it.

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 08:55 | 4672630 Bazza McKenzie
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Being anti the scum in Washington is not being "anti American".  It is actually being pro American in terms of the US constitution.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:50 | 4672772 shovelhead
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I hear ya bro.

Definitely not enough big Gov. boosterism going on around here on ZH.

Most of these fucks even have the nerve to complain about how the NSA goes about keeping us safe from those terrorist-y guys.

And the way they treat our friendly bankers...Well, it's just shameful.

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 11:53 | 4673146 83_vf_1100_c
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bk and LS...

Being, as you call it, anti-American is not the same as being anti-.gov/anti-big brother. It is actually patriotic imho to fight the system. Our .gov is proven time and again to spy on us illegally and against the very Constitution thay swore by oath to uphold. The USA has the largest percentage in the world of it's citizens incarcerated. Ever been stopped by the po-po and told by the officer I smell weed? When you don't smoke pot? Queue the dog and an embarassing wait by the side of the road while your rights are trampled and not so much as an I'm sorry, I was mistaken when nothing is found. Try being Bundy or citizens at Ruby Ridge etc. The Prez, his cronies, the Atty General all are above the law and quite flagrant in their disdain for said law. I could go on for days. Speaking out against a govt that tramples it's citizens is NOT anti-American. Quite the opposite, it is patriotic. No, it is a requirement of any right thinking American to speak out against a tyrranical govt. You have the right to blindly support your elected leaders but don't expect respect for your views from me or the leaders you support. We as Americans are in trouble dude. We can lose the freedoms our forefathers fought and died for.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 14:14 | 4673494 Dull Care
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Why would there be any pro-Dem stuff? They're the ones who are wanting to rush us over the cliff at breakneck speed.

 

If you want a leftwing circle jerk please head to the HuffPo or MoveOn. You'll fit right in with the useful idiots.

 

The truth is difficult to handle. This blog is quite consistent and it's hardly pro-GOP, at least not blindly.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 14:11 | 4673488 Dull Care
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The communist state with far lower taxes, very little debt and almost no welfare state? 

 

You sir luckystrike are quite the maroon. Nothing worse than an American who is incapable of seeing what his country has become but still masquerades as if it's a Jeffersonian utopia.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 03:54 | 4672351 AnAnonymous
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Putin illustrates all the cruelty of birth. Be him born in an 'american' country, this guy would have made such an amazing no contest 'american'.

As to now, this guy has nothing to offer but 'american' trends, even if he cant accept his own fate at the hands of the 'american' world.

So to start to show how this guy is consumed by 'americanism'and it blows backs, the 'american' mantra doing this to your own people.

The 'american' implicit is that not only it is appropriate to inflict that onto people that are not one's own people, but the fear of seeing it inflicted to one's own people enforces the permanent look for people to endure the treatment.

It is the 'american' better them than me, meaning that as long as other people are found to feed the machine, one's own people wont be fed to the machine.

In Putin's case, it blows back. Because who is Ukraine's own people? When reading the comments, it is clear that for example 'americans' on here consider there are two kind of people in Ukraine: the UKrainians and the russians. And that Putin stepped in to protect the russian people.
Therefore, the ukrainian government does not use force on their own people but on the russian people living in Ukraine.

Which is an exercize of force not only legitimate in 'american' societies but also sought for in order to protect oneself from being the target of the treatment.

As always, 'americans' will keep introducing Putin as a mastermind, when every step of his shows how inadept he is at handling basic concepts of the 'american' world.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 04:10 | 4672358 AnAnonymous
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Putin's points are failures.

Another failure that might be commented is the interconnectivity, showing how much Putin is off the reality of an 'american' world. Even though 'americans' made their plans clear.

'Americans' have been the engine of globalization, they have ensured the bulk of it. They've proven times after times that they are able to sort the connectivity brought by a globalizing process.

As usual, taking a look at the mecca of 'americanism' on Earth, the US of A, teachs tons.

'Americans' are masters at social engineering. At start, by all means, the US of A and certain countries in Europe were deeply interconnected by the sheer fact that the loyalty of people in the US went to the european countries, not the US government.
But through social engineering, the US got that US American People they wanted to get, sorting the connectivity they wanted.

Putin is wrong to state that today the world is interconnected. Globalization brings interconnectivty and 'americans' have been in the globalization trade for much, much longer than Russians.

Another example: at start, Indians were not racist and many Indian people followed the custom of adoption. Which means that run away negroes to indians were assimilated. By covenant, Indians could not be sold in slavery. As Indians saw negroes as their own, they thought they should not be taken back into slavery. In the end, US Americans also sorted that interconnectivity the way they wanted.

'Americans' stated their goal: they want to isolate. Negroes were praised as slaves in the US because they could not merge in the population, they were easily spotted. Perfect thing to feed the needs of 'americans' for a captive workforce.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 04:26 | 4672363 AnAnonymous
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Putin off target another take.

The world is unipolar as it is 'american'. 'Americans' by tradition, change leaders every x years. As long as the next leader is 'american', it does not matter.

Putin admires force so definitively, 'americanism' appeals to him. He is unable to offer anything else and would probably prefer to be considered and accepted fully as an 'american'.

One evidence is his wise words on Obama, he is a decent, courageous man who would save Putin from drowning.

Now, it is funny because actually that it is Putin that saved Obama from drowning.
During the Syrian crisis, Obama made an audacious move providing a sledgehammer against 'americanism'. Obama called for vote from congress on a declaration of war.

It was gifted. For some time now, 'american' societies have perfected the way the servants serve the 'american' middle class, WeThePeople. WeThePeople want a share of the loot but WeThePeople does not want to be seen as the instigators of the loot, the servants must be taken the blame for that.

By calling for a vote in congress, Obama threatened that covenant. Putin was offered a very strong advantage. And how did he use it?

He used it by forcing his Syrian ally to disarm, in order to prevent a vote in congress to be cast. Not only the disarming was forced, but it was forced on doubtful if not false grounds. Putin knew that and despite that, went to force his ally to disarm.

This episode settles the relationship between Obama and Putin. Obama is the dominant force and he knows it. Obama can pretend blunders because he knows Putin is going to clean the mess.

Maybe Obama is a decent, courageous man who would saved Putin from drowning. But in facts, Putin is the one who saved Obama from drowning. Does not mean that Putin is a decent, courageous man though. Because Putin acted because he could not deliver the blow even though Obama armed him with a lethal weapon.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 06:42 | 4672426 free_lunch
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Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-mon...

 

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 07:32 | 4672454 messymerry
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HOLY COW!  (can I say that on Good Friday?)  The average United Statesian watches 153 hours of TV a month.  Good God!  I don't even have cable so somebody is picking up my tab.  Joe and Sue Sixpak must have a serious case of brain rot from all that drivel. 

Hmmm, I wonder if there is a connection between that and the constant re-election of the skxawng* that occupy the halls of power???

;-D

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vJC9x5SBKU

OBTW:  When the acorn stops spinning, it's time to head for the hills...and "consumer" is a derogatory term.  Please don't use it. 

 

Hey Tyler, thank you for all you do.  Can we get some sigs?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 06:49 | 4672429 viedoklis_lv
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Don't forget that Putin used Tanks, Jets, etc' against their own people in Chechnya

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 08:11 | 4672535 Fractal Parasite
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Don't forget about the Western oligarchs working with the fifth column to dismember Russia, steal its resources and neutralize its resistance to their global take-over. They made good progress during the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 09:22 | 4672676 El Hosel
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.... Sounds like Putin has been brushing up on his G.W. Bush-isms, Interesting Strategery.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 10:26 | 4672901 cosmyccowboy
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beware of those who claim to be of our brother judah but are not, they are of the synagogue of satan!

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 15:56 | 4673763 CrabNuggetOne
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.

"you will cut off your nose to spite your face"

I'm pretty sure he would have said, "you will cut off your nose despite your face" educated as they are in Russia.

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