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This Means War: US To Target Putin's Personal $40 Billion Stash
While the White House has continually threatened further sanctions against Russia for non-de-escalation (even as it un-de-escalates itself), the specifics of the additional sanctions have been sparse. German CEO warnings over blowback from economic sanctions... the "nonsense" of replacing Russian gas with US gas... the Russian warnings of "interdependence" and "boomerangs"... all reduce the West's arsenal of financial sanctions. But, as The Times of London reports, perhaps the US has found a crucial pain point for Putin - a sanctions regime that would target Putin's personal wealth, which includes a reported $40 billion stashed in Swiss bank accounts.
The White House on Friday refused to comment on reports that Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal wealth could be targeted if the West were to move ahead with additional sanctions over Ukraine.
"I'm not going to get into foreshadowing particular individuals or entities that the United States may target," national security adviser Susan Rice told reporters at the White House. "But let me just say we've been clear that there are additional individuals, officials, close associates of senior leadership, oligarchs and those entities that they are associated with that remain very much potential targets of additional sanctions."
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The Times of London reported Friday that the U.S. was preparing a sanctions regime that would target Putin's personal wealth, which includes a reported $40 billion stashed in Swiss bank accounts.
Putin's actual holdings are a tightly held secret, and the extent of his holdings are difficult to estimate. But a threat of trying to freeze the Russian president's personal assets could have played a role in a deal brokered Thursday by foreign ministers from the U.S., Ukraine, Russia and European Union.
Perhaps it is worth remembering Putin's response from last week's Q&A...
Putin was asked why the US can do whatever it wants and no one punishes them, while attempts are being made to punish Russia.
“The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face,” he said.
Though we are sure Obama and his team have considered all the intended and unintended consequences of any such actions.
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I support the 2nd amendment rights of every gay couple to defend their cannabis plants from a home invasion by the 'meriKa SS 'policy' enforcers.......
But Heaven forbid they leash a dog up in the back yard, they're coming for them too.
Eventually ;-)
When they killed the rule of law, I was basically done with them.
We, ladies & gentlemen, have arrived at a place where government can be caught red handed running guns to Mexico and no one goes to jail, yet they lock Joe Sixpack up daily across the nation for the very same thing. Arrived at a place, where our consent to be governed is contorted (by them) into spying on our every communication and prying into our bank accounts (which I freely admit in public now, I have and maintain, forty bucks in on average and keep it that way for a reason...fuck em). A place where Jon fucking Corzine (of all people) is a free man and yet a common thief (doing the same thing thrice) is locked up for life.
We've finally gotten to the place where THEY tell you what you're at liberty to do or say or read or think or buy or believe...you must conform, you must reform yourself, you are not an individual you see, you are the property of the state, of the idiot masses as well and if you don't...you're a razzzist or a terrrrist or a malcontent...possibly dangerous, someone to watch carefully.
Yeah, I'd say I'm done trying to deal with people who think I must bend my wants & desires to them, when it costs them nothing and they lose zero liberty as a result of my actions.
I've come to realize some people just can't handle freedom & liberty...and therefore I can no longer deal with them or "their laws".
+1 with a bullet my friend
Many of the libertards mistake my support of a raising of the minimum wage through a negative income tax and other measures to help people as statist. Total cognitive dissonance. When you fight a battle you use the weapons at hand. Outside of trying to get the corpratists in Washington to give SOME redress to the working class what weapon do we have? The libertards freely admit the corpratocracy has destroyed small business opportunity. At this point (unless it's Rand Paul) I'll take a populist Democrat like Kucinich over a statist GOPer everyday and 13 times on Easter!
The desire of these libertarian wannabe's to join "The Big Club" is laughable and embarrassing. Most of these keyboard commandos have never ran a business nor faced the grinding journey out of institutional poverty. I've done both. And I'll tell you I've got a hell of a lot more sympathy for the working class who've been under .gov boot since 1980 than my fellow business owners who often rail against them.
Talk about faux libertarians... You wrote this:
The Russian Oligarchs were all in the right place at the right time , taking the righjt risks. That is how they became rich overnight. Putin was Yeltsins pick to take the helm. The oligarchs supported him. It was the oligarchs that were getting greedy and stripping assets and making deals with western scum. Putin stood up and put an end to it. And if you watched the video I posted, you would see that he did at grave risk of losing his life.
Putin stopped the asset stripping. Sure , he got rich in the process but his policies directly revalued the Ruble higher. His policies put the Russian governments books in balance so that they could keep taxes low in the country.
By what metric has Putins policies been bad for the Russian people ? Show me one... Just one
"Sure , he got rich in the process but his policies directly revalued the Ruble higher."
As the resident authority in confirming Putin's wealth, he got rich by doing what, exactly?
I'll tell you right now, the oligarchs always had control of Russia's wealth. Oligarchs don't give a flying fuck about being defined as communists or socialists or nationalists or capitalists. That is the bone for the dogs underneath the table to fight over while they laugh and bet on the outcome of the show.
So, you really don't have a problem with him enriching himself to the level of an oligarch simply because it was within his power to do it? No ethical or moral concerns of someone doing that, at all?
Malarkey.
As I said, do your research on the collapse of the USSR
Voucher privatization is a privatization method where citizens are given or can inexpensively buy a book of vouchers that represent potential shares in any state-owned company. Voucher privatization has mainly been used in the early to mid-1990s in the transition economies of Central and Eastern Europe - countries such as Russia, Poland, Bulgaria, Slovenia and Czechoslovakia.
A great deal of assets did fall into private ownership remarkably quickly and worked to provide some basis for market competition. Voucher privatization took place between 1992-1994 and roughly 98 percent of the population participated. The vouchers, each corresponding to a share in the national wealth, were distributed equally among the population, including minors. They could be exchanged for shares in the enterprises to be privatized. Because most people were not well-informed about the nature of the program or were very poor, they were quick to sell their vouchers for money, unprepared or unwilling to invest. Some Russain people got Gazprom vouchers and still have them to this day.
These billionaires were buying up peoples vouchers and securing external financing for industry. They were willing to invest and take the risk. Its called capitalism.
"These billionaires were buying up peoples vouchers and securing external financing for industry. They were willing to invest and take the risk. Its called capitalism."
No, its not.
Its called theft. It was a communist country.
I keep saying we should think about organizing a national strike in the USA. Bring these fuckers to their knees by not spending money or going to work. No taxation without representation. I concur with your history - the couch-bred will find out soone enough.
But, don't forget, we still have "free speech zones"!
What I want to know...is how much Gold Vlad has and where he spreads it around.
Not how much fiat paper money...just Ozt. or Metric tonnes...
In fact what I want to know is where all the major Gold bugs stash is located.
Then we would know where it is safe to stash ours.
(for the most part).
+1
Anarcho-capitalism, it's what's for dinner.
NWO rhetoric is a distraction from the control regime which already exists.
The NWO ain't comin', it's here.
It's been here a while, the issue we're seeing is that it's falling apart because the parasite load on the hosts became too great for the hosts to survive.
Good observasion. It would probably be very hard to delineate homogenous NWOs. It's like there is one big team (like say management at a big corporation). It breaks down by title and department and lord knows how they all interact. It's not any kind of insane conspiracy. It's just the fruition of human nature (power and money hungry rise to the top).
It appears that your misguided belief in the accuracy of the reporting by the main stream media is your bromance showing.
Walter Block on Lew Rockwell today, very smart -
“How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin issued a warning against the BLM for violating the homesteading rights of Cliven Bundy? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin boycotted Nevada Senator Harry Reid for castigating as ‘terrorists’ those who rose to the defense of Cliven Bundy? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin placed a few Russian warships off the coast of California in case their help was needed in defending Cliven Bundy’s land rights? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin froze Barack Obama’s financial resources in Russia? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin shipped a few hundred head of cattle to Cliven Bundy to make up for those destroyed by the BLM? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin threatened to go to war with the U.S. over its miserable treatment of Cliven Bundy? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin actually landed Russian troops in Canada or Mexico in order the ‘send a message’ to Americans? How would people in the United States feel if Vladimir Putin set himself up as the protector of the tortoise, many of which have been killed by the BLM.”
It'd be cool if he shipped us some Saigas.
I do not know why this set of remarks gets so many upvotes.
This American would love to see all of O'bama assets in Russia confiscated, would be real happy to see Harry Reid actually called out as the fraud he is.
I've got no problem with anyone shipping cattle to replace those thoughtlessly destroyed.
As to the rest, are we to make equivalency between voting residents of Crimea and turtles?
As to warships, I'm sure everyone has subs posted everywhere, and they all know, about each other, exactly where and how many.
I just don't get it.
We would view him as an American patriot and savior.
That might be quite foolish. It would probably be wiser to think of him as a 18th century French king sending aid to the colonists. Thank you very much. We sincerely appreciate the help. Now keep your paws off.
Unfortunately, Zero-Hedge readers do not understand that Putin is a low-life gangster and a thief. Russia's zionist-controlled oligarchy put Putin in his chair because he is utterly corrupt and greedy.
Putin hates and, at the same time, is afraid of Russian Slavic people. This is why his children live outside of Russia. This is why he keeps most of his money outside of Russia. He is very much like Mubarak of Egypt who also was a zionist-controlled Egyptian dictator.
This Ukrainian fight is not about money for Putin but rather about his own survival because Ukrainian nationalists (do not mix them up with Zionist Junta in Kiev) want to be united with Russian people and drive Zionist-controlled mafia out of Russia and Ukraine.
Ignorant post...
Granted he was picked for his chair but don't you think being the big dog at the KGB/FSB had a lot to do with that? He got in on his own is my read.
How does one get to be the big dog?
You have to know people.
We completely understand that Putiin is a low-life and a thief. What you fail to understand is that many who post on ZH these days are just the same - low life commie fag shills who worship Putin's left nipple. And as for Putin running the Mafia Jews of Russia out? Forget about it. When they get tired of Putin, he's going to Helena too. Read Peter Benchley's book "Q-Clearance." You'll understand about ah, um...so-called world leaders after that.
Well, its a fool's dream. No government anywhere gives a flying fuck at a rolling donut about Cliven Bundy, his ranch, his cattle or his rights. Certainly not the barebreasted bullshit artist who runs Russia. The only people who give a fuck about Cliven Bundy's rights are those of us who understand what's at stake when the BLM and the entire Dept. of the Interior become the hand that does the bidding of the criminals running the government. It used to be that we had some insurance against petty tyranny that was elected to high office-the bureaucracy didn't change as fast as the prez and his goons in the Capitol. Bush changed all that when he fired all the lawyers and judges and stacked the courts against any valid interpretations of the Constitution. Vast numbers of law-abiding bureaucrats were put on the street during the Bush-Cheney years, replaced by neocons and apparatchiks whose job is to destroy the US from within.
It was not Putin or any member of any government that rode to the Bundy ranch. It was armed citizens. We are the only ones who give a damn.
You still don't get it do you? Anybody forcing DC to play catcher once in a while is likely to get a cheering section, but hardly means any of them are packing their bags to live in the Russian workers paradise.
So they turn on each other - either way, if your not NWO, you're likely collateral damage.
why am i seeing response after response BELIEVING that putin has $40 billion dollars? come on? stop. it's propoganda to inflict jealousy.
'who' said this? 'who' backed it up? 'who' proved it? saddam has, north korea has, libya has, al quida did.... lone gunmen...
it comes from same ones made accusations about Litvinenko....but now don't want talk about it...
That's what I've been screamin', Nihilist. I teach lots of Russian students and they all say that Putin is one of the richest men in the world, perhaps the richest man in Russia. They know that - whether they like him or not - he is both very powerful and very corrupt.
So, while I completely agree with the sentiment that the US should not be meddling in the Ukraine, it's funny to see so many here and in similar alternative media sites talking as if Putin was any more reasonable than TBTB in the west. He's no different. If there are any doubts about that, just ask the Chechens or Anna Politkovskaya, the independent Russian journalist murdered on Putin's birthday.
No hard feelings to anyone who sees it differently, but personally, I'm not up for a lap on the rah-rah Putin bandwagon.
I don't know if this is a uniquely American way of thinking, but we tend to believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." It's all Obama hatred; once a new president is in place that is likeable enough, Putin will be the evil corrupt enemy again.
Agreed, but why would they not believe it. It is more fundamental than that.
It is something deepseated in their being....
But Hughk.
Some people like me, don't care. We want the uni polar Keynesain world order to end. If he can do it, then I will fully support him. Despite his flaws.
The only reason I like Putin is because he's challenging the Rothschilds, because if they get a CB in Russia and China we really are in a world of hurt. IMO, the only way this ends well for the peasants is if the oligarchs begin waring with one another. We can't expect our circumstances to change as long as we allow the same people to remain in control after each war / financial crisis.
I will admit that Putin is a damn good leader.
I'm just sick of America looking like a shithead. I'm sure Putin is an evil fuck like they all are and this is either theater or the prelude to a shitload of death. I'm tired of shit sandwiches.
Yeah but when you have shitheads in office it's difficult to expect anything else.
Most of Chechens prefer Russia...
what does anyone's birthday have to do with it?
heresay....where is proof?
Oh, don't forget Litvinenko....notice that brits don't want talk about that anymore...
Anna was only one of over 130 Putin critical journalists murdered during his time in office.
I'm sure he has $40B in an easily targeted account. More propaganda for the masses. Try to make Putin look like he has stolen the countries jewels. I have no idea what he has but I'll bet O'fuckhead in the Whitehouse doesn't either
Hey, how about the 4 Trillion $ Bath House has stashed in Switzerland?
The country's jewels were stolen a long time ago by the jew Bolsheviks. Now the New Bolsheviks have the world hoodwinked and confused as to the difference between Bolsheviks, Russians and Soviets. Some of the simple minded posters here such as Luckystrike are spraying that confusion as well stating that Putin is invading......blah blah blah while the Amerikan public has been soaked for $5bn and counting after Ukraine voted down the idea of joining the EU and the New Bolsheviks would not take no for an answer. The Polish government, for those with memory problems, was planning to vote down joining the EU but then the plane carrying their entire government went down killing all aboard. The new government, appointed by you know who, then voted to join the EU. A short history lesson for those seeking truth on Easter Sunday.
Putin seems to be pretty much his own boss...I don't see any evidence that he's much involved with the NWO gang...but they will make as much use of him as the are able...they will use him to try and destroy Israel, what's left of the US, and UK...they want war, that much is certain, but they want it on their terms to accomplish their goals, not Putin's.
I think he's more of a rival gang boss. Even if he's "only" worth 1 bil, this is a rarified space. How would one handle that amount of money w/o having some sort of dealings with at least Swiss/Lichtenstein or some other tax haven? I'm assuming that it's not all in Russia or that its acquisition might not want to be public knowledge. Is it true? Only a maybe. You'll never know until accounts are cut off and people are dead. Perhaps that's a clue to some banker deaths recently.
Of course, I don't believe that Bammy is only making 400K a year either...it seems implicit from some comments that some level of gain from graft is to be expected.
I wouldn't want any of these creeps lording it over me.
How about owning shares of Gazprom and the other major Russian corporations? Maybe a couple huge bars of gold for a hedge.
I've always thought of Putin as a pretty smart guy, even though I'd never worship the guy...i do find his outsmarting Obama at every turn to be entertaining.
However, if he's got 40B, or 20B, or 1B...whatever...and he's keeping it stashed in "western" fiat electronic journal entry accounts. He's not quite as smart as I thought he was.
no fiat for the pute,,,trust me!!
Suppose he had a billion in dollars in the west and it is confiscated away. Does that hurt him? Maybe a little but once it is confiscated back to the west and, in theory, put into circulation (even electronically) then it would have an inflating effect thereby making it less of a loss for Putin and less of a gain for TPTB. The assumption is that he is sitting on cash here.
An unlikely scenario. He owns most of Russia, from Gazprom on down.
Worship of the barbarian and the brute in these days of civilization's withering has won a great many adherents. Cruel mentalities exert a horrible spell upon the weak minded.
At least we aren't subjected to the ridiculous hero worship of Kyle Bass anymore: in this we know there is, ultimately, a line.
kyle bass manages to negotiate a completely RIGGED market of new york 'intelligencia' (ok, i was polite), in a calm clean, decent rational manner and make his clients some money. he is an outsider. i can't do that. can you?
Oh man.... Over the past five years, Bass HAS BECOME LESS THAN A JOKE, given his staggeringly wrong and indescript calls.
His whole short JGB thesis... just absolutely moronic. And all he had to do was buy Nikkei with both hands.
Mortgage baxked securities... so late to the game it was funny seeing it
J C Penney equity long... think he picked up long CDS (to be fiar), but don't know about his CTD position on it.
Long GM... so ill timed as to be buffonish.
Rationally, calmly,and decently out of touch... "Hoard your nickels!" UT: "Take physicial delivery of gold near the top!"
You say he made some money... maybe in fees, but I don't see how for his "clients" given the above track record.
This is getting interesting. Watch for Putin to try kidnapping Reggie Love
naw.. probably paris, lindsey or miley..
it's a BTN hairless thing.
I'm sure Obama has a buttplug he can use while Reggie is away
Complete and utter BS. Putin doesn't have $40 billion in Swiss banks. This stupidity makes the U.S govt. look even more of a laughing stock.
More zio crapola to get the average hooplehead on board for more war.
I thought it was 40 million. I had to read it again. Does Pooty Poot has his own software company?
40 billion created in Swiss bank accounts. Now we know where the taper went.
Putin could break the COMEX all by himself.
No one needs more than $35 billion for retirement.
Smiling all the way to the candy store with a few 100 millions
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n26hr1BVNx0/TGW0PbQ2r-I/AAAAAAAALXc/V2FejT7b9c...
I would be afraid if MSM will start to like Putin.
40 B in dollars in Swiss banks? Do they think we are stupid? If he is really rich, swiss dollar accounts will be the last place for his money.
Actually he is much more rich than that, he does not need any money at all.
He is first person in Russia, this is galactic ways above paper fortunes of western politicos and bankers.
But when zios use this money card, you can be sure, that they are in terminal status.
Then the MSM pedal this line....................http://exiledonline.com/a-peoples-history-of-koch-industries-how-stalin-...
Remember that the crew over at Exiled have their own Russian axe to grind.
So far it's been a lot of talk and little action from the US; and a lot of action and a little talk from Putin. I see no reason for this trend to change. The US can run it's mouth all it wants. The reason a bitch runs his mouth is because that's all he can do.
Obama is the bitch.
"You are my bitch, bath house"
"Ohhhh, yessss!" (slurp slurp).
"Overthrow your country for me, bitch."
"Kenya?"
"No, the other one."
"OK, strongman!"
If even if he had them in Swiss banks bet they are not there any more.
POTUS knows all the unknown unknowns. All is well.
True or not, this makes no sense. Even if Putin had a trillion in Swiss accounts, he would not give a damn. The US is underestimating the rest of the world by reducing everything to dollars in or out of accounts.
It's even harder to believe the Swiss would go along with any attempt to freeze his account if it exists. Every despot in the world would withdraw their money as the Swiss banking system could not be trusted. Somehow I don't think the Swiss would let that happen.
Don't be too sure of that. People in charge in Switzerland are playing along to get along.
Why would the swiss want to get along with the very entity that would force a run on their bank and empty the vault...??
I am sure we only have a decent share of those billions, Putin is an intelligent man.
If this scenario realizes, I can certainly foresee tremendous pressure as well as threaths from the US on our government, however I can't see them folding on this one. Most of the threaths would materialize in impediments to our export industries. That would not be enough, and probably attackable under the WTO setting.
union bank of swiss and credit suisse (representing the german and french sides of swiss) went big time belly up playing in new york with the yankee doodle dandies. they won't get burnt again. there are and will be other 'clients'.
Europe denuded.
NATO not too strong vs. during Cold War.
Flaccid West.
Bad Economy.
Fiat currency collapse.
Emerging Market collapse.
BRICS rising and used to collapse.
No army to really use.
Except for 'dressing down' Vlad, what else can be done from their prespective...except War...but that is not very feasible (see the prior points).
Flash Crash coming to a US exchange near you.
Uncle Slam's not happy unless he's stealing other people's money.
Or land.
Uncle Sam (AKA the US MIC) " is only interested in promoting 'Democracy" in those Countries plagued with non 'Democratic' models of Governance"
A strategy more commonly known as "Regime Change". Almost exclusively practiced in Countries that harbour assets Uncle Sam would like to get his hands on, and leverage full control of.
...or don't already have a Central Bank..
Or taking life, as they laugh endlessly drunk on their perceived power. All the time forgetting, for every action.....
Putin is holding 40 billion US dollars! That's an unexpected expression of faith in the greenback.
Putin only has to squeeze the EU balls via gas and we will see how things play then, how the USA came to think that they can expand into Ukraine is beyond belief. The problem for the US is if they gun for Putin directly he will in all lightlyhood respond by dumping the US debt of which he holds quite a bit and we will see if the giant has feet of clay.
Personally I don't care a fig for Putin, but the American approach has been a joke from the begining from Nuland onwards, and people who are broke (The USA) should be more careful who they piss off.
To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace.
- Tacitus
Listen,all the U.S. campaign funding laws are designed for the super multi-millionaire rich to run for political office in the U.S.The ordinary person or even someone with a million bucks doesn't stand a political chance of getting in.The controlled media wouldn't pay attention either and you wouldn't be allowed in any debate.If anybody thinks the U.S. is still a democracy and not a fascist state then you better take a closer look.Very little difference today between democracies,communism and fascism.All corrupt to the core.I see very little if any difference between Obama and Putin and the boneheads that lead Canada,Germany,France and Britain are just as perverted.
I would love for Putin to retaliate and release BO's transcripts and applications.
As I keep saying, Putin just has to start buying gold openly and in quantity. The fact that he hasn't is an indication that he still has a number of lesser options. What the US needs to understand is that Russia has, most probably through cyber capabilities and sleeper agents, the ability to severely damage US infrastructure.
The real birth certificate too
Dump Treasury's already.
End of story...
No, not end of story, it's easy to make more of them.
U.S. officials angry: Israel doesn’t back stance on Russia Amid tension, Netanyahu backs out of event he was invited to personally by Putin. By Barak Ravid Published 02:49 13.04.14 http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.585333?v=D97A0B2854A04B94D98D82... . ..."
Adding more fuel to the flames in Washington were public remarks by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman in which they maintained their "neutrality" and failed to back up the United States."
"We have good and trusting relations with the Americans and the Russians, and our experience has been very positive with both sides. So I don't understand the idea that Israel has to get mired in this," Lieberman told Israel's Channel 9 television when asked about the Ukraine crisis. When White House and State Department officials read these comments, they nearly went crazy. They were particularly incensed by Lieberman's mentioning Israel's relations with the United States and with Russia in the same breath, giving them equal weight. The United States gives Israel $3 billion a year in military aid, in addition to its constant diplomatic support in the UN and other international forums. Russia, on the other hand, supplies arms to Israel's enemies and votes against it regularly in the UN." ...b.r.
The writing on the wall is in Hebrew as well.
Ben: Vlad, the US is our puppet; so, we don't care about them since we have most of their stuffs."
Must have been a mis-translation. In view of the hundreds of billions given to Israel over the decades, I'm sure their leaders would back any and all US activism with unwavering resolution.
(Providing any such actions could be seen to be politically / economically in Israel's benefit)
the term used was "swallow the frog",
that is a good one though i'm not sure
i entirely appreciate the full meaning.
@blindman,
how many postitions in the US political machine are held by individuals of the Jewish faith?
now the "big business" owners residing in the country.
how many postitions in the Russia political machine are held by individuals of the Jewish faith?
now the "big business" owners residing in the country.
now do Ukraine.
what the hell was my point?
"By way of deception thou shalt do war" ?
The overthrow of Ukraine by armed racist anti-semetic thugs and bullies openlty flaunting their Nazi identification and roots must be very awkward for Netanyahu and Lieberman. Any observer would have to wonder if it was a factor in their distancing themselves from the US on Ukraine. Amazingly there is no mention of this issue in the Haaretz article. I went back and looked again, sure I must have missed it. Unreal.
My MSM-watching freinds, even the ones who watch MSNBC, are convinced the danger is Russian anti-semitism. Sickening.
BTW thanks for the link. I used to drop in on Haaretz from time to time but now most of their material is by subscription only.
why does anyone believe that Putin is stupid enough to risk half of his net worth in a bank under US State dept control, or that he is stupid enough to hold it in US dollars? if it's trule there for the taking by the Euromorons, it means he's put it there on purpose.
by saying putin has $40 billion - they mean current $ equivalents. so - whatever he holds - he's lucky. in dollar equivalents - it will soon be worth TRILLIONS!
(and that is the entire point of the exercise).
so - does he own facebook stock? or citibank stock? or las vegas mcmansions? or gold? or exxon stock? or euros? or us treasurys?
wow - $40 billion. could be anything. diamonds? shares in hooters? rare picassos? bit coin?
does he have controlling shares in a corporation that keeps the pipes from freezing and bursting across most of northen europe?
or maybe some health care company associated with obamacare? maybe in home rentals to h1b visa employees in ussa?
and while on that - maybe in companies offshoring north america jobs to india?
you decide. but - i will bet he's not a stupid investor. the day's of 'warren' loving ketchup might be over.
Well, dammit we got to git them durned terrists.
Nothing like a $40bil. fortune protected by nuclear weapons.
A -Fucking-HMEN..We leave NoKo alone because they have barlely a dozen and are aligned with China. How about one with 8500 to our 7500 and a military structure built since 1950 to wage war with America?
And a naval submarine fleet 2nd to only our own..We saw how America ground to a halt after 9/11 via 4 737's and how 2 kids with pressure cookers stopped a major metropolis in it's tracks for days with home to home searches and tanks on the streets..This is what happens when you promote a culture of fear and handing over freedoms for false security for over a decade infused with a culture of watching the Real Houswives of Who Gives a Fuck Where is MY EBT card.
One Nuke launched by a Russian Submarine into the most desolate town of the U.S. or even an unihabited island off of our coast and you will see how this social fabric is clung together by nothing more than a thread of entitled children live in La La Land. Forget about an nuke dropped on a major city..this nation would collapse in 12 hours because of the conditioning. If they do not cease they are going to kill the majority of us and the nuke will only do 2% of the work and Olive Gardeners waiting for EBT Cards in the mail will do the rest.
PLEASE let them launch and lets just get this shit overwith, damnit. At least then we could [try] to sort this shit out and begin rebuilding [hopefully] something better on the other side. Just my 2c
A kid ... 3 years old shoots a kid 2 years old ?????? Fucking idiots you are ... get a life <);o(
Dissent and debate is welcomed here at ZH, but you have to make sense at least. I think you need a few more ESL classes first. Try Rosetta Stone.
Good news: Vlad has $40 Billion.
Bad news: It's in bit coins.
Well, I don't care if Putin is a 'good guy' or if he's a corrupt and greedy devil. It doesn't matter one damn bit. What matters is that they're going after him personally and he's going to retaliate. The U.S. is stuck in the over-reach rut. It takes a good deal of arrogance and shortsighted stupidity to get stuck there - and there's no lack of such in DC.
So it is a boomerang and they are going to cut their own big noses off to spite their faces. Putin's just the guy to handle it too. I only wonder what forms it will take. Putin's not going to get careless with the military option - that's the last resort. He has plenty of other much lower-cost, lower-risk options he can employ, some of them in unison with his Eastern partners. I'd say the petrodollar is quivering in its 'boots' now.
re: "... Putin's personal wealth, which includes a reported $40 billion stashed in Swiss bank accounts."
Proof?
If true, it puts Putin in an altogether different light.
But I've seen this repeated over and over without proof. Where is the evidence?
And if it's not true, how would he disprove it?
Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I take it as strong negative circumstantial evidence that no one has leaked Putin's Swiss bank account records. The big players, who are willing to risk world nuclear war to defeat Russia, would certainly be able and willing to out Putin if he's guilty of corruption on such a grand scale.
When someone does leak such "evidence" I for one will be skeptical. Too late. If it's real it would already have happened.
40 Billion Rubbles is 112,372,176 USD
If Putin holds "billions" in "dollars" he would have no one to blame for that tragedy but himself.
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slight problem. Putin has no billions to be touched. gold you buy the fucking dips idiots.
$40,000,000,000? Bullshit! I would not believe the MSM or our leaders if they told me that 2+2 = 4. The Times of London is just another disinformation rag. I do not feel like dying for a group of retards about to start World War Next In Order.
Oligarchs attacking oligarchs. That's what I've been preaching. They are out of options. The tools of terrorism, financial terrorism and nuclear and conventional warfare have reached their limits.
I say we put em in a coliseum and let them gladiator it out.
Yeehaaa oligarchs fixin to kill each other this year.
Preach it bruh.
If it wasn't all theater it would prove that there is no honor among thieves.
I call bullshit. When Alexander the Great was asked "Where do you keep your money?" he answered to the tune of "My friends keep it for me".
If I, a lowly non-security guy, know this simple measure against the vulnerability described in TFA, can you believe for a second that there is a pile of cash somewhere, marked "Putin's personal stash"? Even through shell accounts?
It does not exist - exactly to prevent things like this. All he needs to do to get his weekly allowance is to ask politely.
Im gonna say "LIMIT DOWN"
What are these guys thinking? Emotion driven retaliation is all they have left after the endless embarassment that they have brought on themselves after Syria and now trying to ANNEX THE ENTIRE UKRAINE by overthrowing an elected government. These are desperate moves of a dying nation and it's mafia like buddies system of extracting cash from the citizenry. These are child like reactions of those accustomed to getting their way.
"Any deciscion based upon emotions anger or otherwise ceases to be a deciscion the moment it is made it becomes a reaction because deciscion means you are waying logical viewpoints and not one based solely on SINGULAR EMOTIONAL THOUGHT"
We all knew the leaflets handed out about Jewish registration was a 1980's like pre internet failed propaganda attempt and we knew it the moment it appeared in the MSM..now that is debunked and now they are reporting that a Synagogue has been bombed in the Ukraine which we all believe here was done by XE like mercenaries or provacateurs.
This is a war..why is the CIA in another nation meeting under false names?? Why is this not being reported in the MSM?? Why is the evident truth that we are trying to have a set of double standards to further the interested financially of the fucks in Quatar who want a pipeline into Europe and that cash being handed to our politicians and corporations here not being brought front and center? Have we ever had an administration in power so overt in their corruption that literally can get away with whatever it desires because the media runs cover for them?
That is why Bandar Bush is gone..his name became to overreported and the ruse became uncovered thanks in large part to ZH..so now he will work behind the scenes..
Can they just leave this fucking guy alone? If they do not they are going to push China further towards Russia and one of those ICBM's being fired out of either a Russian or Chinese submarine off the coast of L.A. is going to land somewhere..YOU KNOW THE MISSILE THAT THE NSA SAID WAS A 747 JET EXHAUST LIGHT TRICK"..
Didn't Ukraine just attempt to also pass a draft bill ordering conscription into their military last week also that failed in their parliament? All these distractions and all in the name of spinning the ponzi plates and taking over other nations and their resources to preserve our reserve currency status. If you wanna preserve the currency status just fucking do something positive instead of trying to FORCE EVERY NATION UNDER THE SUN TO TAKE OUR WORTHLESS PAPER paid for by deaths of citizens globally and citizens extraction of their purchasing power through the inflation you pretend is not occuring.
Everyday I say I have never been so fucking disgusted to have these people representing our nation and what we are supposed to believe in and then I get another story which proves me wrong...were on to your dying regime and thank the heavens for the technology an websites such as ZH which allows for those who want to see both sides of the argument and actual facts as opposed to purchased brain washing tools such as 98% of the MSM..
DISGUST. Do the right thing you motherfuckers..is that not what our parents and grandparents have taught us for generations? Otherwise your nothing but a band of thieves undeserving of holding any public office or involvement in our government..because if you are doing nothing but self serving acts for your own do the detriment of others financially and in many cases their outright DEATH than you are nothing but what we have seen throughout history a fucking ILLEGAL MAFIA CARTEL using government as your guise.
Corruptio optimi pessima
"And no arguments about being too busy saving the world for democracy."
"Saving it from democracy is what it feels like."- Leo McGarry
Putin announces a currency or a joint trade currency based in metals or a commodity basket and this nation grinds to a halt within months.
Fuck it..I am going to watch some Ultimate Warrior Documentaries on the WWE Network so I can feel like a kid again in simpler times..it is funny how I revert to those childlike desires as the world grows shittier and more evil around me each tick of the clock.
John McCloy outstanding +10000
Putin's vast wealth (if it even exists) would be in a place that is beyond the reach of the US.
And even if he does have riches in Switzerland, the Swiss would first have to agree to freeze his accounts.
What ever happens, Putin has the West by the Petros$.
Zero Hedge is even worse as that idiot Alex Jones ... America is going down ... Europe rules <);o)
AM:
Since it's so bad on ZH, we won't miss you when we never see you again.
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Europe can't even rule itself - they're a bunch of socialist LOSERS, and America is following quickly after their steps. The only thing Europe has is smelly, hairy-legged women and some damn good cheeses. Put me in for some of the cheeses.
Honk if you love cheeses!
would not happen with bitcoin bitcoin wins
will trade bitcoins
for bacon
Just another misinformation attempt by the DC anf MSM motherfuckers!
Any how the $40 billion is a crock of propaganda as are the references to the US. Political decisions always are made by elite concerning the empire not a land mass. and certainly not a US empire.
see forbes list of richest people. this would put putin in the top 10. stop. there's no way.
The Obama's have to pay for their $1.4 billion vacation bills somehow.
This Hitler reincarnate has 40 billion in swiss accounts and we're telling him, in advance, if he doesn't start dancing to our tune we'll freeze it all.
Yes, I'm sure this is not propaganda to make him look like a thief like his western counterparts. No doubt Putin has done his fair share of stealing but this is just sloppy work by the mericans.
Hitler reincarnate? This article is about Putin, not Obama.
They are both communists and if left to their own desires they always start the mass murders.
Obama, Putin - same communist philosophy and repression - for the good of the people of course.
This is all a nice distraction from the real issue. Economic collapse
this is a lie
putin has 80 billion
it could also be 160 billion
maybe 320 billion
that is not important
what is is the
6 million jews from 1917
1918
1919
1920
let me showa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
No need to show us, Tony. Nobody believes that 6 million propaganda nonsense any more. Well, maybe a few such as those who fell for the Kuwait baby incubator tale or the Belgium boy's arms story or the Gulf of Tonkin lie or the Pearl Harbor story or the rest of the wartime propaganda barfed out by the same old oligarchs as always in order to justify their cruelty.
I think your satellite is finally about to break out of orbit, wilson!
Why not double down on your numbers even more, tony boy? Putin is worth a measly 320 billion? Make it 640 billion. 6 million jews killed? Pfft.. make it 12 million, or 24 million! RISK ON, wilson! Double down!
Don't let TW get under your skin, intrc8. He's like Karl Marx - a Hebrew who couldn't get it up and blames his mom. People like him are why we have hate crimes.
TW - the world, in particular the left, hates the truth about such things.
Stop voting for the leftists who always eventually start their mass murder - for the good of the people of course.
Yeah, my old man just made up the stories of the death camps he took part in liberating during WWII. All that film footage was just so much Hollywood propo. And you fucking shhitheads on the right, who drove at least as much of the world off the cliff as the left, are just as stupid, blind and fucked up as the Nazi motherfuckers and Commie fucks who pulled the stunt last time.
Keep spouting your anti-Semitic bullshit. The lot of you seem to forget that it could just be your kind that go down into the pits en masse next time. I just wonder...is it genocide to kill right-wing thugs and left-wingnuts? Maybe the sensible on the planet need to start culling the herd of shithead sheep who go around spouting John Birch Bullshit, or just those who make up 'facts' to support their intolerance and hate of all that is different from their Gestapo-worshipping fantasies.
The world doesn't hate the truth - it hates ideologue motherfuckers like Tony Wilson and his scum sucking cretinous crowd of parasitic shitheads. You stupid fucks won't recognize history even when it runs you over.
A. Who is speaking for the US and who is directing them to take such actions?
B. Why is the US completely out of control and not listening to its people?
C. What is the urgency? What is the purpose? Why the intensity?
D. The map tell me that Switzerland is an independent country and not the US. A deal for Swiss banks to steal Vlad's fiats could only be made through the banks.
Maybe Vlad is smart enough to realize the real enemy that is jerking the US around on a chain and threatening him is the banking empire and not the US Republic. I wonder if that makes a difference to him or if he is also being jerked around by the banking empire. Maybe the US and Russia should join together against the banking empire!?!
... and why do it at the same time that you remove all of your tanks from Europe?
if this is true ... the saudi's , the chineese , the russian governments will smash the US Dollar..
silver / gold will be the last man standing . . . . Jim Willie . com is right . 100%
"... a reported ..."
Good God! Can't those scumbags at the SIS and the CIA cough up a more believeable story than this?
I have to ask myself, Who are the Swiss bank gnomes more afraid of, Obama and the Fed, or Putin and the FSS (formerly known as the KGB)?
I can see problems for Obama if both the Swiss and the Russian become his enemies.
nyet....it is FSB
Putin picks winners and loosers in russia just like its done here. Muh it is what it is?
The guy spend his whole life the resurrect Russia from the Jelstin chaos, and now they think they can pressure him with some paper claims. I am sure there is no oligarch in Russia who dare to waver for a little paper stashed in some insolvent bank.
It sounds somebody has completely lost contact with reality.
If Putin has $40 billion in Switzerland it means he has $100 billion somewhere else.
I see some on ZH do not believe Putin would put any of his money where the US could reach it. The problem is Putin lives in a country that can change power structure quickly which could require him to flee overnight. Putin's background has taught him to always be prepared for the unexpected. Even China would give up Putin's money if it was not politically profitable for them.
The horseshit Anti-jew false flag flopped on it's face... now this? Shit, Obunga... if Vlad really comes after YOU, you will be in deep shit... cut the goebbels propaganda bullshit and just shut up for once! Just cause Mike is leaving you... grow a pair, fool!! Looks like this is forcing the alliance of Russia, China, India and the rest of the emerging markets... the craven Sauds will join too... Nice move by BathHouse Barry in his efforts to radically weaken the USA.
“Death is not the problem; waiting around for it is.” - Charles Bukowski