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Cliven Bundy Responds To Racism Accusations
In response to the verbal attacks pitched at him over thelast few days, Cliven Bundy has held a brief press conference to explain his perspective on 'slavery' and allegations of racism. Much as the world seems 'happy' to live a life of debt serfdom, Bundy notably remarked that he wonders if any of us are better off now "as slaves to charity and government subsided homes."
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but also according to the majority at the time.
just ask them.
:)
What if I stuck a gun in your face and told you that you owed me a million dollars in back rent, because some shitstains in Washington wrote a law that said I owned your land now?
Because that's basically what has happened to this guy's family over the last few hundred years.
Don't believe everything you read in the NYT.
"the last few hundred years"...? seriously?
So if I steal your shit gradually under color of law, instead of all at once, that makes it ok?
that really has nothing to do with my comment now does it? I simply pointed out your comment about "a few hundred years"...which was quite plainly a...well, let's call it Exaggeration. You should at least have the stones to correct yourself rather than try to distract attention away from your...inaccuracy.
The Bundy family has been ranching that land since the 1800s.
You may now go and fuck yourself.
So it was like 140 years. Let's split that hair because that's what's really important.
The analogy still stands. Shitstains is DC wrote some laws and created a three letter agency to ram them down everybody's throat, and now this guy is at .gov gunpoint with his back to the wall.
'B' squared:
"What if I stuck a gun in your face and told you that you owed me a million dollars in back rent, because some shitstains in Washington wrote a law that said I owned your land now?"
good reason to not pay, say, income taxes? if you can trace your family back a some number of generations to a place in time when those 'new' taxes didn't exist?
:)
While the whole racism thing is just character assasination, I do find one thing silly in all of this. The fact that the Merican flag is being so proudly flown through all of this shows there is a bit of a disconnect in Bundy's battle against the Federal Government while honoring the flag which represents it. I wish the anti-federalists would have won years back...
I kind of wish the British would have won. Or, better yet, we would have become more French, as - you know - France aided the Revolutionary cause in a large way.
We should love France, not deride it. Just goes to show how truly ignorant is much of America.
That said, I think Bundy is just that - ignorant. Not racist.
The British DID win, it was called the War of 1812. It resulted in the Second Bank of The United States. No need to explain where that led us.
Wonder what deal Madison cut - he was VERY anti-US bank prior to the war?
Didn't Jackson yank the charter of the Second Bank of the US?
Yes he did. But the idea and the principle rode the currents of history all the way to 1913.
He simply refused to renew its charter when it expired. Which almost got him killed.
I wish the American Indian won.
Why they weren't as nice as you might think. The Iroquois in my area came up from the Ohio valley wiping out all the indigenous tribes on their way. We are what we are...
Bingo. Contemporary accounts routinely referred to them as bloodthirsty savages... because that is actually what most of them were.
"Well, I guess when it starts pissin' rain in here, you know who to blame, huh? Now, I know word's circulatin' Indians killed a family on the Spearfish Road. Now it's not for me to tell anyone in this camp what to do, as much as I don't want more people gettin' their throats cut, scalps lifted or any other godless thing that these godless bloodthirsty heathens do. Or even if someone wants to ride out in darkest night. But I will tell you this. I'd use tonight to get myself organized. Ride out in the morning clear-headed. And startin' tomorrow morning, I will offer a personal $50 bounty for every decapitated head of as many of these godless heathen cocksuckers as anyone can bring in. Tomorrow. With no upper limit! That's all I say on that subject, 'cept next round's on the house. And God rest the souls of that poor family. And pussy's half price, next 15 minutes."
-Al Swearengen
Indeed.
In time they'd have let peaceful people join with the land, they did the first time.
I know for a fact that a man can love his country and hate the government at the same time.
The American flag is a symbol of the country (America) not the government.
Then he should be flying it upside down - a legitimate way to display a "Nation in Distress."
The American Flag is a symbol of our potential.
The American government are the handcuffs that keep us from reaching that potential, to appease the rest of the world.
Help me understand the down arrows.
Do some folks think the government and the country are one in the same?
No, I think the confusion here is about which the flag represents.
Flag of the Unites States of America - not flag of the federal government.
Do people also think the individual state flags represent each state government?
Seems simple enough for me to understand.
Until you overthrow the overlords, how aren't they the same? Non-action is complicity.
Attack salvo #1 from the PTB and MSM!
"We must eliminate all resistance to the Khazar Empire!"
cant undo what he said yesterday. no second chances or do-overs with national media. its pretty clear he is self serving and not acting on principle
I disagree. What he said was a taken a bit out of context, but was a valid point that was not articulated very well. If you'd like to see the whole video of what he said you might see a little further past the MSM glasses you are wearing.
Take a look for yoruself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI
what the fuck has this to do with cows and desert wild life and .gov greed corruption and over reach? bundy no need to go there- but race is always front page so maybe it keeps the issue front page..kinda sick of the whole racism hoopla..but it sells.
My guess is that he feels the need to speak out on all things gov fucked up now that he's in the midst of his "15 minutes of fame."
It's one of the problems that arises when one fails to differentiate between overwhelming local support in light of a "national problem." He likely feels proud that he's a local leader now, but this message will never play well outside of his own realm, as his complete message will never be delivered (especially if he has trouble articulating it without inappropriate sound bytes that can be taken out of context by the MSM).
We should pitch to hire him a speech writer, and im sure obama has an extra teleprompter he can borrow.
It was a trap and he fell into it, at least they won't get another chance to mislead by that means.
I hear the Pols that are distancing from him and his statements.
Makes it easy for me to figure out who is lead by which way the wind blows.
I have now distanced myself from the politically correct.
You just have to remember what a invertebrate is.
I can guarantee you that those armed civilians are still in the area. And if the US government returns, it will not be pretty. That armed support never evaporated, even if the political support may have.
DC doesn't care. All they have to do is to keep letting him further alienate himself, until such a time as they can Waco the militias with impunity.
Once people are trained to hate someone, treating them humanely is no longer required.
Dehumanization 101: The enemy is scum.
That's why you bring in so many militia they CAN'T Waco the situation. The only reason Waco worked is because they didn't fight back.
When both sides have armor & machine guns it means both sides will take heavy, visible losses. No one will be able to cover it up & that will make the USA look like Syria.
Rand Paul ran away from Bundy like a woman afraid a mouse is going to run up her skirt.
Rand Paul ran like a politician.
has "the good doctor" weighed in yet?
hello?
Never engage the Media on their own turf.
They will destroy this old timer.
LOL. The liberal media is on this story like white on rice.
>> The liberal media
Fully corporate owned "liberal" media. So your propagand is better than their propaganda. Congratulations on blending in so well with the herd.
So you are saying Corporations cannot be "liberal". Congratulations on demonstrating your are either an idiot or a useful liberal idiot.
No, you are an idiot. Corporations can't be liberal because being liberal is being anti-corporation at the very minimum.
See what 15 minutes of fame does for a dumbass? That's why it's best to leave the media contacts to professional sociopaths. Whenever you are contacted by the media, be sure to contact a professional media sociopath.
As somebody famous once said: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
NEVER talk to the media.
I talked to a news reporter once. I was absolutely dumbfounded at what was printed. Fortunately I learned the ugly lesson early in my career and never again agreed to be interviewed.
I went through line by line with the journalist what should be clarified, what context it was in, and still I did not really recognize what I said.
Most media are not that smart, little chickshits...in an evil sort of way
Problem is if they're willing to lie about what you say they're willing to do it even if you say nothing.
Yes, never talk to the media while fighting a media campaign. They might twist your words, or something.
Manipulation and propaganda are all about context and framing.
The NYT is masterful at this.
Please see Mr. Bundy's wider comments.
http://www.infowars.com/unedited-video-shows-bundy-making-pro-black-pro-mexican-comments/
and you're pointing to fucking INFOWARS for the "facts"? Pardon me while I laugh my fucking ass off...
If the video is a fake, that will come out in time. If not, crawl back into your troll hole.
You didn't watch it, did you?
He obviously doesn't understand how psyops work, or how they prevent him from learning things from "tainted" sources.
I guess he doesn't realize that to some, ZH is in exactly the same league.
it's fucking infowars for god sake.
That did not answer my question. I realize you prefer a more artful form of propaganda, a la the NYT.
Did you watch the video?
I did answer your question:
"it's fucking infowars for god sake"
Keep banging your head against the wall friend, It may knock some sense into you eventually.
thanks for the laughs cowboy.
alien-IQ, Infowars has gotten slightly better over the years, and it's still just a sensationalist site of course, but the MSM has become so much worse that it makes Alex Jones look downright normal in comparison.
erm. . .
none of the above?
And you can do better?
Infowars is OK. Way better at exposing what the mainstream works to hide...
You like mainstream media better?
yah, 'cause you has to pick either/or - flip or flop, left or right, librul or librataryun. . .
sigh.
Infowars has a reputation better than almost any on the planet, except for Zerohedge and some particular youtube channels, as validated news sources, highest credibility.
Above it I would also place WeAreChange / WRC / Luke Rudkowski.
Let's just see what the New York Times left out...
…” and so what I’ve testified to ya’, I was in the WATTS riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen the last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people is thinking they did not have their freedom; they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.
We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.
And...
Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.
Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.
And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.
Let's start with this. African Americans are a fully vested subculture. As american as apple pie. As american as white descendents of the Puritans. Crispus Attucks took one of the first bullets for The Republic. Now Clive Bundy doesn't speak in a dialect that most of you are accustomed to hearing. He doesn't speak like Chris Mathews or Rachel Maddow; he speaks 90 year old white rancher. African American slaves picked cotton, Clive Bundy's ancestors grubbed potatoes. It's likely that they were essentially slaves. He is speaking in as straightforward way as he knows how and he is saying something which many conservative white people know and which more and more black people are figuring out every day Which is, welfare is a trap. "The dole" is a form of soft genocide. What does an entrenched economic elite do when faced with a subculture which breeds such men as Frederic Douglas, MLK, and Malcolm X; such women as Sojourner Truth, and Harriet Tubman? Fearless fighters. The tried and true solution is to put them on the dole. In three generations you have gutted their culture, reduced there ability to even think straight, let alone fight. They lose their faith, in this case the Christian faith, which black america once embraced so strongly. They lose their men to prison, drug addiction and dissolution. They lose their family lives and intergenerational continuity, their ability to pass wisdom from one generation to the next. They lose their ability to get up at 4:30 am and get to work on a construction site or in a factory even though it sucks but it might mean that their children or grandchildren will be merchants, or doctors, or read the law. They lose their future. I don't think Clive Bundy is any more racist than any american of any race who is honest with themselves. When he makes a statement that black americans might have been better off as slaves outright, than enslaved by a welfare state, he is trying to wake them up. BTW, how disgusting, and telling, to see so called "conservative" politicians bolting out the door in fear the first time the New York Fucking Times drops the Racist bomb. I didn't think too much of Rand Paul anyway... now though, I know he is a coward and a statist shill. Also BTW, if you saw the pictures of the militia members on the scene you may have noticed *GASP* Black Men. What are they doing there anyway...? Racists? Don't let the oligarch owners of the New York Times jerk your chains people.
Bullshit. I think it's high time to clean out the motherfucking "toolbox".
Twain I think.
He's no racist, the presstitutes are painting him as such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oIQyWNgRNI
"presstitutes"
many up arrows for that word...
:)
Most Americans will not even understand they are slaves to this courrpt game.
Didn't anyone learn a lesson from Jimmy The Greek.
This man is being used by the media. I do not know if he is a racist or not because I do not know society's definition. Being an old white male rancher might be enough in some people's mind to make him racist. In this selfish, self-centered world may be enough to make us all racist.
I believe Bundy admires hard work. I think if his neighbor was a hard-working african-american who needed some help, Bundy would be one of the first neighbors knocking on his door to give a hand.
He is being abused by the media like a pedophile abuses a child.
Let me clear it up for you. Are you white? Then you are a racist.
It's really not very hard to understand.
Your clarity is appreciated.
If the whites keep apologizing for building a great nation with fair laws, you will get a country full of immigrants that have no history or respect for what it took to get this country to become the most powerful and free. If the white's keep apologizing you will get every fucking loser to take what your forefathers have fought and died for. I am not white, just to be clear, but I do know it wasn't the Jews or the Asians that worked to buld a democracy like this. You will vote in a Mugabe and then it will be too late.
Good observation and kind words, X-defiler, but maybe too late, I'm afraid.
FAIR LAWS? Are you nuts? Those fair laws said that whoever was a Lord or equivalent could take whatever they want.
No rights for darkies, no rights for women & if someone richer than you wanted your property they could take it against your will.
Those were the laws, still are the laws.
Man, you are ignorant.
Like I said in an earlier post, you can't confuse the process of the law with idiots who inturprete the law poorly. Thats like me blaming you for something your stupid mom did, like giving birth to you.
You're the one that's confused. The process, the interpretation and the words of the law for the founding of the united states didn't respect anyone but rich white men to run everything, after first wiping out as many darkies as possible who were already in their home land, then importing more darkies for forced labour.
You live in a delusion.
Even today laws for eminent domain really mean nothing is yours but on the say-so of the overlords.
What is clear to understand is that for 'americans', the group is all, so they love playing the race card.
'Americanism' cant be dissociated from racism. An 'american' is racist.
Claiming that being a white person is equal to being a racist is simple 'american' wishful thinking to extend the base. The group thing.
Racism appeared well after human beings and it is only 'americanism' that made it so important.
'Americans' are racist.
Europeans have always been so smug in their condemnation of American "racists." Sweden and a few other countries are now having thier eyes opened to the realities of race, albeit too late. They should've first asked Rhodesians and South Africans about the magic of diversity.
Most humans are tribal, it's in their DNA. If it looks different, then it isn't one of their tribe. Xenophobia is built in like a survival gene. You can't pass a law, imprison someone, oppress them or exterminate them and expect to change it. People have to change inside and it is a slow process. Anything else and you take two steps backwards.
Unfortunately the White House is loaded with people who have taken the process dozens of steps backwards.
I larned alls I needs tah know about tha rayciss from Bob: Bob is a Filthy Racist
If you cannot figure out whether he is racist or not, guess what? "Society's definition"? You do not seem very bright by your statements so maybe you made this post in earnest. Any how can you say this moron would help anyone? He seems like a self-interested jackass to me.
The wholesale and wanton destruction of the African American family and community, when brought to light, touches a nerve.
Cui Bono?
In whose interest is it to destroy these people?
First answer : Not Mr. Bundy's.
Lefty libs are dumb like a fox.
FUCK HARRY REID IN THE HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never heard that one before.
Something written by a friend on another blog I completely agree with:
The absolute definition of welfare:
Grazing cattle on federal land with a monthly charge of $1.50 per head for grazing rights, yep you read it right, $1.50 a month. What do you get for your buck and a half? For a start you get federally funded and pumped water for your cattle, you also get the federal government planting out more feed for your cattle, you get security because the federal government pays people to exterminate predators that prey on your livestock. On top of that you receive drought assistance and compensation if your livestock succumbs to drought, floods and acts of nature. You have next to free feed, a protective eye over your livestock and next to free maintenance of your feeding range.
Now you’d think that any sane person on so much welfare with profits guaranteed by the big bad federal government irrespective of good years or bad, would feel honor bound and grateful to pay a paltry $1.50 per month which beggars the question of just how many head of cattle Cliven graze on Federal land to run up a bill of over $1 million and just how much more welfare he feels he is entitled too. Cliven no doubt also gets a generous farm subsidy but still he hates the government because minorities are in his perception getting some money he feels entitled to without even bothering to pay the paltry grazing fee that is a token payment at best.
Which brings me to the subject of unAmericanism and patriots who don’t believe in the very nation they live in, freeload off, collect every benefit from and then are prepared to kill or be killed when someone comes to collect their long overdue contribution for the land they use, which is heavily subsidized for their usage. This is not libertarianism, it’s greed anarchy and a feeling that you are exempt from laws because you say so. Couple this with the white entitlement that is expressed in vile statements about the grand efficacious, high living that was called slavery, a time when people were sold like livestock, whipped, starved, had their offspring sold off, deprived of any form of education and worked until they died under the lash or through exhaustion.
All I can say is, Cliven wouldn’t have lasted a week as a slave seeing most of his farm maintenance has been handled by the Federal government, he didn’t have to build the roads to see his cattle shipped off to market but to him the nation that provided him with everything is the enemy, because black people got some rights in the 60s and not much more since.
Sean Hannity pushed for bloodshed and the slaughter of federal employees because poor Cliven wants everything for free and Sean held up a supremacist, supreme moocher as a national hero and role model. A hero,who would have happily seen MLK lynched.
This message sponsored by Media Matters, magnanimously funded by that great Patriot, George Soros. Lol.
This, and most of the replies to my post above, brought to you by Fox and Rush.
you are a slave
Explain your statement
Well, I would say to your friend that it must be nice to let the NYT and WaPo do all your thinking for you. Certainly makes one's life easier I suppose.
Your friends description about federal benefits to ranchers is wrong.
I hope the federal government shows up to your house with all the fire-power they had on Bundy's ranch to collect a debt. Our government has made promises they can never pay and Americans are all slaves. This is only the beginning.
Bundy is far from perfect like all other humans on earth.
What about you? Are you not subsidized? I guarrntee that you would not have gotten a mortgage with an incredibly low rate, nor will you be able to drive your car at $4.00 a gal without a guberment that enslaves other nations. Lets talk about subsidies. You wouldn't last a day if you had to pay full price for a burger at a fast food restaurant. Stop with your finger pointing. Our guberment was set up to encourage businesses. Ever fucking industry is subsidized so that your fat fucking kids can get another happy meal. Dumb Bitches
and how about you? are you exempt from all you just stated?
No, not by a long shot. We are all subsidized, whether we choose to be or not. Thats my point ya dumb as. The rancher gets up every morning to do his work. Roads are buit so he does more work because he doesn't have to fuck with the transportation. Land maagement decides to pipe water, so now he can raise more cattle. The prices now drop because there are less costs to doin' biddness. That is a bit different than you and your family, just collecting a check for breathing, which hopefully ends sooner than later cause of poor fast food diet. I would love all the subsidies to just vanish with little or no taxes and an incredibly small governement that encourages a standing citizen army but that is never going to happen because parasites like you love to live on the backs of everyone elses labor at gun point.
Relax francis...
Can you prove they piped any water there for Bundy's benefit?
Or is there natural water the BLM claims control over which isn't managed by them at all?
that's a terrific, well thought out post. needless to say, they are gonna junk the fuck out of it here because....I don't know...just because.
You are a race baiting POS! All the man tried to say, as he is a rancher and not a wordsmith, is that the people he saw in that shithole AKA public housing were not even marginally better off than when they were slaves. They had family at home and not in prison or lying dead in a Chicago morgue. He NEVER said that anyone SHOULD be a slave just that it doesn't seem like they have been allowed to go beyond that lowly state.
They are all race baters. Just look at the state of this country. The vast majority, including me, so wanted to trust that a man of color could do a better job than a skull n bones Texan. So we vote him in because he is a minority. The vast majority of the black caucuss voted for him. The gays and lesbians voted for him. God knows there were more experienced people in the mix. So the act of voting for Obozo was racist, except it was in his favor so we don't call it racism. Now that he has turned out to be the worst president ever and that mail order law degree seems to have done nothing for his understanding our laws, can we just say that it feels like raciam the other way, now? Lots of vacations and golf trips. Spending an enoromous amount of tax payer money for trips and expenses. A cabinet that is filled with people of color that seems to routinely break the law because they are not qualified to understand the law? Looks like the government is mirroring any inner city block with a racial mix and a level of disregard for the law. America has gone from a 1st world nation to a nation of wealfare recipients and that was all since this prez got in. Argue all you want but I'm just looking at the results.
The Marxist, Communist, Facist, Fucks-us-all-ism culture change is a direct attack on the American ideals that built this country in the first place.
Couldn't of said it better. The whims of these liberal shit-stains are the undoing of even their own agenda. I was talking to the godless and the person actually thought that morality was somehow ingrained in our genes. I asked if they had studied all the empires prior to Jesus' arrival. Of course this idiot with a masters in Women's studies says, "no". So I gave a bit of a history lesson. I said all the empires up until the Roman Empire only understood sucess and power through brutality. The feable Spartan democracy only applied if you were strong. For the weak, they died very young and were never given any consideration. During the Roman expansion, Rome began its empire by killing all the men in a neigboring village and raped their women. The gods that were worshipped all had their petty human insecurities and greed. It was neither a good or safe world. Only through Judao-Christian ethics did we start having the kind of democarcy that we have today. It aint perfect and it took a long time but its a hell of a lot better than "Might makes right" attitude. So now with an ignorant, greedy mass, that is the American populous, all the lessons of history are lost. We have a POTUS and an AG that understands that if you give every idiot a bad promise, they can dismantle a lawful culture that took 2000 years to build. Good luck with all the table pounding of your rights when their are no decent men and women left to defend them. I can't wait.
Those born evil can't be made good.
Those born good can't be made evil.
Those raised on the bible & other religions did the most harm to the human species, drove almost every genocide in world history.
If there's morality it can't come from a book, nor a cult.
Looks to me like it's born, so is it in the genes? It isn't in a book or words.
"Only through Judao-Christian ethics "
... did we then get witch-burnings and invading Muslim lands to slaughter them all for being Muslim.
You're an ass-hat and a liar.
Clearly you are confused between morality and people who pretend to be moral. In your world, all gays should be killed or jailed because one man rapes a boy. You are a fuck-tard for sure. This sort of mental deficient reasoning is why we are here today. If I robbed a bank in your name, are you to blame? Fucking moron.
I am completely unconfused.
Those who need a book to be moral are the most immoral and will only ever be pretenders, sociopaths, a danger to the human species.
The bible is a book of evil & its followers are not to be trusted as they are the #1 source of worldwide genocide. Demon-evil.
Problem is democracy is evil and you are presenting it as something desirable. You defined democracy as might is right without even realizing it. What is democracy if it is not might is right? Is it not the majority forcing the minority and the whole of a society because they have the numbers or might? What is desirable is a Republic. Moreso a Constitutional Republic that prevents any majority from running roughshod over the minority. Words mean things. Stop using the word democracy when you mean republic. There is nothing so vile and evil as democracy and it is not something that should be wished for.
Which brings me to the subject of unAmericanism
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UnAmericanism? How could that be? 'Americanism' does not exist right? This is what 'americans' on this site keep hammering.
So funny.
good post! This is the truth and I am shocked at the amount of hypocrisy shown by ZH and posters on this subject. I thought these people were more intelligent than that. Mooching is mooching, plain and simple and Cliven Bundy, racism aside, just does not want to pay. F*ck him.
bs It is clear you know nothing about the facts.
Much less ever being capable of discernment and fair assessment.
ignorant talkings
bs It is clear you know nothing about the facts.
Much less ever being capable of discernment and fair assessment.
ignorant talkings
Bundy no more owes the Federal government than if I showed up at your house at gunpoint and demanded a land-tax for your house.
There's zero Federal ownership there. Zero.
Nevada is the owner & Nevada isn't asking for the grazing fees.
i just don't get why all the states with all this power over federal lands haven't united and sued for damages...
they must have crummy lawyers.
:)
slave to the fed gov.
useless talkings
total BS made up lies and half truths
The very first sentence in this rant completely misses a point which discredits his entire argument. For when did that land become "federal land?" That land should belong to the state of Nevada and not the Fed.
You and your friend are both morons.
"i just don't get why all the states with all this power over federal lands haven't united and sued for damages...
they must have crummy lawyers.
:)"
me, copying and pasting....to save time for hiking in the wilderness i like to call my backyard.
:)
So Harry Reid and his cronies are innocent? Sure you didn't mean to post this on the Comedy channel? Stand up for the United States Constitution shit head or lose it all.
You don't fact-check much. Nothing Bundy got was "Federally funded". They took money they weren't owed and didn't do shit.
The most management that land sees is adding nutrients for the grass to grow: by having cows shit there. And it's Bundy who's bringing the cows there.
Life cannot be reduced to a baseball game between two opposing teams who follow the rules of fair play.
Responses have become so typical and predictable on this site anymore.
I really like a lot of what Zerohedge puts out. The economic insight and critique of the financial system is very interesting and unique. But I have to say unfortunately a lot of the political articles and conspiracy theory garbage you also post makes me somewhat conflicted about this site. You start off the post by almost making this guy sound like a victim. He is, by all accounts, a vile, racist whack-job. He is not patriotic nor heroic and most certainly is not intelligent. He is, in my humble opinion. just another moocher only this time he is mooching off the Feds so in some way this is OK with Zerohedge. You all should really take a hypocrisy test before you post nonsense about nutjobs. Welfare mothers and welfare bankers are really not very different from this guy.
Well said.
Stupidly said is more apt.
He is, by all accounts, a vile, racist whack-job.
Whats your excuse? You seem a little nutty to me as well, and a Whack job..By the way Dope, Conspiracy is failure to think and in this case you fit the motto perfectly.
Hahaha."Conspiracy is failure to think". You are a veritable Socrates....
That Mr Socrates...Dope
Your property is next nimrod.
You need to change your ID, you have no faqing clue what it means!!
My guess is you are sum dum arz right wing white delusional ghost worshiping Christian who wants to take on the BLM because you dint have the balls to take on the banks and FED. A bunch of Dem hippies in the OWS have more grit and Patriotism than you will ever have.
Do you swallow?
He swallows just fine. Likes 'm in all sizes and color. I hate getting this angry but I am amazed at the level of ignorance and blindness to the horrible state of the world and this sort of attitude and complete insanity is keeping the country from getting back on its feet. FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!!! If a Mexican is lazy, call him out. If a black guy is shouting in the theater, tell him to shut up. If a white guy can't dance, remove him from the dance floor. If a Chinese restaurant won't stop serving cockroaches, call the health department. Cause if you don't, you get a country that breaks like the US of A!!!!!
His mom should of swallowed and not taken the creampie delight.
Do you hate the JEWISH elite who rule over you, as much as you hate the Christians who try to save you?!
Fool
I hate Christians who want to "turn this Country back into a god-fearing nation".
I hate Theocracy.
Please donT save me with your Theocracy!
sounds's tah me you's really a witch an' tryin to hide from them thar god-fearin' folks'll what turn you out ah yer black magic!
Christian Theocracy... what could go wrong...
The party that never ends! Bonfires every Friday
not a witch, lol. Just want to sleep in on Sundays.
the same 'white christians' who butchered everyone who wasn't white in almost every nation they spread to?
And then when they got bored of that they turned on each other with accusations of being 'witches' and burned them alive? Those 'christians' ?
ignorant post..... shows you never looked the facts and are also stupid.
The federal government is supposed to work for us. It's not a corporation for financial profit and do we ever know it doesn't save for a few. It is meant to serve the people but it has not done so and nothing has been more than a thief since it's inception. The American people own that land in dispute. That means I get to have a say and I say let him continue on as he has been doing for all of those years. He may not be the brightest bulb in the ceiling but it is about a lot more than Cliven Bundy.
For four and a half years you have been a ZeroHedger but you will take a swing now ? Why now? Yep, drag out the old limping dog of a race card and throw in the nutjob part. Yeah, tarnish his image, paint him racist, call names and then throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. You come off sounding like a statist prick. You might be a good guy but you don't sound like it right now.
You want financial news? Then watch the ticker on your daytrading computer. Or on-line poker computer. What's the difference?
reading comprehension problems probably limit the benefits you receive from this site.
bundy sued .gov for breach of contract for not doing what he was contrctually paying them to do. the courts essentially ruled there was no contract and .gov could do what it wants and bundy has to pay them to let them destroy his livlihood. his mistake was thinking he could fight city hall. now dumbasses like you think his use of the word negro(derived from spanish for the anglo word black) makes him a racist.
right or wrong bundy is an american from an era when being his kind of american was a signature of american strength. now he is a terrorist and the cocksucking limp wristed metrosexual is the new acceptable american.
"Economics" was originally called "political economy" and was something that nations evolved, either knowingly or unknowingly, implementing one particular "philosophy" or another, as reflects their national leadership and governance and it's evolution. It is really hard to complain about politics and economics cuz they are joined at the hip. It is all about how the wealth and resources are allocated across their societies and how level the playing field is.
seems the problem is yours alone:
Bundy isn't mooching off the Feds, the Feds are mooching off Nevada.
That land isn't Federal land.
My how soon we forget
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/09/harry-reid-negro-comment-_n_417406.html
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid apologized on Saturday for saying the race of Barack Obama – whom he described as a "light skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one" – would help rather than hurt his eventual presidential bid.
Obama quickly accepted, saying "As far as I am concerned, the book is closed." Reid, facing a tough re-election bid this year, spent the day telephoning civil rights leaders and fellow Democrats in hopes of mitigating the political damage.
If I were Bundy I would sue Harry Reid for slander, and he would win!
In an 'american' society, there is no discontinuity between a base and its elite.
How many posts on this site showing 'americans' blaming their politicians to try to seek a diversion?
The base can not endure this method of drowning facts.
Yet, bingo, it never misses: the base uses the same method.
There is no discontinuity between an 'american' base and its elite. They are the same, they use the same methods.
Uniformity in all facets.
I don't think the post you're responding is meant to be a diversion. I think it's meant to point out the hypocrisy of Reid accusing someone of being racist, when he's just as 'careless' in his own statements.