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Donetsk Riots Break Out In "Scenes Of Absolute Brutality"
It seems the US and EU sanctions escalation has done nothing to calm the tensions between Ukrainians and pro-Russian forces in Donetsk, where according to report ultranationalists from Kiev are involved in a skirmish with local riot police. As the following clip suggests... "rocks and missiles are being thrown from both sides - there are injuries and scenes of absolute brutality as both sides clash."
There are injuries, and scenes of absolute brutality as both sides clash with each other here in #Donetsk pic.twitter.com/EvGYZOf6M8
— GrahamWPhillips (@GrahamWP_UK) April 28, 2014
Not as simple in #Donetsk as 'pro-Russia' attacked. There were members on both sides here looking for a fight. That's Ukraine right now.
— GrahamWPhillips (@GrahamWP_UK) April 28, 2014
Minutes before the violence erupted...
and then as violence erupted...
It got serious..
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Looks like great weather to jog in.
Did they kill any bankers yet?
Note to self:
Don't bring a rock to a missile fight.
The X-37B is keeping an eye on things.
US military’s mysterious X-37B space plane passes 500 days in orbit, but we still have no clue what it’s actually doing up there
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/181426-us-militarys-mysterious-x-37b-...
Its trying to find those TOPOL missiles. But the moment the Russians load up the subs with the long range ICBMs and park them in their coastal waters its over for the dollar hegemony.
With a large tank brimming with hydrogen peroxide, it's probably designed to bleach something massive. Perhaps...Uranus?
You honestly think that having some nuclear submarine sunked near American coast will bring down the dollar hegemony?
Are you that stupid?
You really think that if Russia uses nukes on USSA, Russia won't be made into a giant glass taiga?
Man, soo many kids on Zerohedge. You people are way too naive or just simply retarted.
I've been fascinated with that plane. It's existence occasionally breaks through the MSM but it's usually an "ooh-ah" type article. Whatever it's up to it's gotta be nasty. We are woefully uninformed even when we try to find out shit.
Death Ray
emp? having an orbiting deployable emp would be gold. missle defense systems looking for boost phase of icbms won't see it, since it's in orbit and can be brought down on top of anyone at anytime.
This is what the jezuites are good at, divide and rule..evil has come upon this earth.
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Ukraine mayor was just attempted assassinated: http://www.jta.org/2014/04/28/news-opinion/world/ukrainian-jewish-mayor-...
SWEET IRONY I hope it was one of those same Neo Nazis they supported, maybe next time the headline will say mayor, wife and two young children shot in back while swimming in river. Then you know for sure it was the Nazis.
Hey you sow what you reap assholes. Hope your new found nazi friends remind you of the love they had for you before they helped you take Ukraine's gold out of the country.
What you don't seem to understand is that most people felt Nazis were on both sides of this conflict. The Ukrainians are showing the world that their Nazis do not hold sway to the same extent as the Pro-Russian Nazis do. Going forward, the Pro-Russians had better smarten up or they will end up looking like a bunch of knuckle draggers who couldn't negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag.
The Pro-Russian Nazis are giving a bad name to Nazis in general.
useless talkings
I think that is the first time those sentiments were expressed on this website. It's amazing as this site has been going strong for 5 years.
Do you ever listen to yourself?
How factual is calling Russians as Nazi?
Have you ever heard of Ribbentrop and Molotov?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Have you ever heard of Lenin and the sealed train?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=185376
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations_before_1941
One is the left shoe, the other is the right shoe. Both serve at the feet of Satan.
“The neo-Nazis have always been Russian....errr I mean, We've always been at war with Eastasia....”
The mainstream U.S. news media is flooding the American people with one-sided propaganda on Ukraine, rewriting the narrative to leave out the key role of neo-Nazis and insisting on a “group think” that exceeds even the misguided consensus on Iraq’s WMD.
After the Feb. 22 coup in Ukraine – spearheaded by neo-Nazi militias – European and U.S. diplomats pushed for a quick formation of a new government out of fear that otherwise these far-right ultra-nationalists would be left in total control, one of those diplomats told me.
The comment again underscores the inconvenient truth of what happened in Ukraine: neo-Nazis were at the forefront of the Kiev coup that ousted elected President Viktor Yanukovych, a reality that the U.S. government and news media have been relentlessly trying to cover up....
More broadly, the U.S. news media’s hiding of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis has become a near obsession, indeed, done in greater uniformity across the mainstream press and even much of the blogosphere than the misguided consensus on Iraq’s WMD in 2002-03 that led to the disastrous Iraq War.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-neo-nazi-imperative-the-mainstream...
Actually not.
He was one of the biggest supporters of ex-Yanukovich party. He was a billionaire.
When seeing that Yanu boy fled to Russia, he started to change tunes.
Love the unbiased reporting: "Ultranationalists." The MSM should reveal to their listeners that they themselves are "former" communists.
The big brains at the CFR and NED are looking at the Balken and Yugoslav wars as the template to conflate this freak show. Meanwhile the establishment organ-grinders at RT and the NYT beat the drum slowly.
To all the FSB-RT and Euro-Combine operators that love to troll, slag and project their cause on these pages, what is the point again?
To sell debt to finance strife and more surveillance?
Huddled over your keyboards so some unnameable oligarch can gold plate their toilet?
This ridiculous exercise is completely avoidable and the fact that it keeps escalating means both "sides" want it - meaning both sides are the same side.
Don't let "the Rich" divide "the Poor" using the age old excuses of ethnicity and religious intolerance.
You have to look at the machinations inside this country of 40 million as the same template used in Cypress to confiscate wealth the prior year. Success means it will be done again - maybe on your doorstep next time.
Good luck to everybody.
VIEW from Ukraine
Mayor of Kharkov Kernes was shot by his own people
April 28, 2014, the Empire
According to a portal "Empire" source, based on information received from Ukraine law enforcement agencies and intelligence analysis of events following before and after the assassination attempt on Kernes, this attempt had several objectives.
First, under a pretext of the assassination attempt on the mayor of Kharkov, the Kiev Junta intends to introduce its more strict control in Kharkov region without officially declaring a state of emergency. Lately, the Kiev Junta started to lose control in Kharkov region. Therefore, in order to stabilize the situation in Kiev Junta interests, it was necessary to find a solution using a special situation. Kharkov mayor Kernes was selected as a victim due to his conflict with some senior officials in Kiev. He was not killed but simply taken out of the big game. At the same time, pro-Russian supporters of Ukraine federalization will be accused of the attempted murder as an example of their terrorist activities.
Secondary, the removal of Kharkov mayor Kernes from big politics will start a division of spheres of influence in Kharkov with too many shady players. It also was a hit against oligarch Kolomoyskoy interests in Kharkov since Kernes was actually looking for his business interests in the area. Thus, all footprints of this assassination attempt lead to the Kiev Junta.
Portal " Empire" reminds us that today, approximately around noon, Kharkov mayor Gennady Kernes was shot and a seriously wounded. He was promptly operated. At this moment, his life is not in danger.
Mayor shot by an American or Israeli ass clown.
You are over-selling your point of view. Those who don't support your point of view will see through your feeble attempts at propoganda. You are proving to those undecided that the Ukrainians are right to keep their country together. I suspect you support the repatriation of Russian Ukrainians to Russia.
What is your definition of a "Russian Ukrainian"?
How would compare to a "Ukrainian Russian"
What about the poles Lvov and other west of Kyiv where most of trouble comes from that are bused into the east
to attack and intimidate local people.
The Russian Ukrainians are Russians who live in the Ukraine. The Russian Ukrainian sees themselves as Russian first and only. They have no allegiance to the betterment of the Ukraine, as a Nation. The Russian Ukrainian asks what has the Ukraine done for them lately.
Typically the Russian Ukrainian came to the Ukraine after the original Ukrainians were starved out and deported to Siberia. The Russian Ukrainians hold positions of power in the poser economy of Eastern Ukraine. The Russian Ukrainian does not want the Ukraine to compete on the world stage as their industries are not world class. Many Russian Ukrainians would lose their positions of influence if Ukraine were to join the EU and adopt democratic governance models.
"The Russian Ukrainian asks what has the Ukraine done for them lately"
Fact is the Russian Ukrainian regions work and outproduce.
"The Ukraine" lives off those in the East, whether Russian or other.
Asking what has Ukraine done for them lately is legitimate Q....
All families I know in Kyiv and area are against the illegal Kyiv and want the criminals kicked.
Single Ladies with daughters are terrified from this "democracy governance"
These are people familes lived in Ukraine centuries..long before Stalin was born...They speak Russian in home and more in business...
There is no problem between most Ukraine citizens and Russians..They are brothers, family...
It is outsiders spreading the shitte...and not Russia...Russia tried to help
You are ignorant of what all this is about.
You don't break up a family because you can't get your way. If Ukraine and the Russians were family, what is with the Pro-Russian Ukrainian separatist agitation?
Yanukovich (the Russian Stooge) was running the Ukraine into the ground, and no one cared. Once the money ran out, I'm sure the oligarchs told him to get money from Europe. (I realize the Russian Stooge took over from the Ukrainian Stooge who allowed his/her country to be plundered.) The Ukrainians sat back and acted like the Greeks (similar orthodoxy).
Europe wanted the Ukraine to clean up its act. The citizenry finally decided that was the way to go. Yanukovich went to Putin and asked if he can better this deal. Putin said no, and told Yanukovich that the Ukrainians weren't joining Europe. Yanukovich did as he was told.
All hell started to break loose.
Do you have any problems with this narrative? Can you fill in some blanks?
Ukraine was a much bigger country before the US and Israel interfered, you idiot.
You may be speaking the truth. Another fact is the Ukraine was a country before the Russians interfered with it.
Yeah, but Ukraine is an artificial soviet-made country.
It was given parts of Poland, Romania and Russia after WW2.
The real Ukraine should be a bit smaller.
What you say may well be true, but Russia is an artificial soviet-made country.
Ignorant post....Russia started there...
Ukraine has mostly never a country, but "borderlands'...was more Russian than any until all power was taken in 1917... and now has no legitimate government.
The legitimate, elected goverment was violently overthrown..
Yup. The area was always referred to as "Kievan Rus" until the Germans decided to use the area in 1917 to cause problems for the Russians (sound familiar?). They dubbed the area "Ukraine" which means "borderlands." The concept as a separate nation is fairly modern.
http://tarpley.net/metaphysical-doubts-concerning-the-existence-of-moder...
+1 for keeping it real with Web
'Germany's Delicatessen' says it all...and still today, the Globalist vultures feast
... Russia was started there...
So the children of the Kiev Rus are rebelling against the mother country? There was a Kiev before there was a Russia.
I support the re-repatriation of gold from the FED BANK in NYC to Ukraine.
I don't see any "absolute brutality"?
It looks like a parade.
Where are the floats and ass clowns?
The clowns haven't arrived yet. Their still in the White house performing their juggling act.
I'm a little tired of journalistic hypoerbole. "Scenes of absolute brutality?!?" Call me when there's footage of axe fights in the streets.
well that escalated quickly. Brick killed a guy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7tgX_Uaqs
Solar Eclipse April 28, 2014 11:04 p.m. Pacific Time (April 29, 6:04 a.m. UT) 14 degrees Aries Bharani Nakshatra Monday’s Solar Eclipse is a particularly aggravating one, due to the fact that it occurs directly opposite Saturn and also receives a challenging aspect from retrograde Mars. The eclipse takes place in Bharani Nakshatra, which is connected with Yama the God of Death. It further agitates the ongoing political unrest in different parts of the world, which has been brought on by the Saturn Rahu conjunction of 2013/14. Eclipses generally give their results for about 3 to 6 months after they occur. In some cases, they can also give results for a month or two before they take place.
Retrograde Mars and Gold in Backwardization mean only one thing SOSDD...
Yeah, Saturn is in line with Mouse-L-AlphaB from Citrus C constellation and at the same time, is divided by the neurological fault line of Chile by 33 degrees(see I just wrote 33, a masonic number, so I definitely know what I'm talking about), and also Matthew 10:22 of the Bible says something about 2014, 31 of July, when the AntiChrist will make a public appearance at the Vatican who is the Whore of Babel, and also Mars just took a shit on JUpiter, so yeah, lots of "prophecies" about to happen.
So, yeah, run to your closest neo-protestant church devoid of any spirituality but full of Hallelujah-screaming morons and give a buck for Jezzoos, coz' the end is coming, and Jeeezzos needs dollah' dollah' bills to buy himself a new Iphone. And a nice pair of Nikes, like dem' NBA superstars.
Sometimes I wish something like this would happen in America...people on the street, anything...I know it's a wishful thinking, so back to the reality you go boy!
it already has happened, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSM3lVb3zUo
The Mexicans won
If the occupied government of the US (i.e. The CIA/whatever) is willing to this to these people, you can bet your ass they will do it here in the US as well. Coming soon to Chicago, wherever. Get ready; they are.
Coming soon? We already have a Kenyan President elected by Mexicans
That's why Rahm was installed as mayor in Chicago. To get the weapons drop shipped to the right troublemakers.
Moscow. April 28. INTERFAX.RU - International rating agency Standard & Poor's on Monday downgraded the long-term credit ratings of five Russian companies - Railways, "Gazprom", "Rosneft", "Transneft" and FGC from "BBB" to "BBB-", said in a press release S & P. The outlook for all ratings - "negative."
Revised ratings of "Federal Passenger Company" - a subsidiary of Russian Railways. FPC ratings lowered from "BBB" to "BBB-".
The agency noted that the rating actions reflect the revision of the sovereign ratings of the Russian Federation, which took place last Friday. Then S & P downgraded the long-term rating of Russia on liabilities in foreign currency from "BBB" to "BBB-" - the last step of investment grade. Forecast long-term ratings of Russia - "negative."
In the S & P while explained that they expect further outflow of both foreign and domestic capital of the Russian economy. This, analysts say the rating agency, promotes geopolitical tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
On Monday, the U.S. imposed new sanctions against Russia - they touched several companies and individual citizens. In the new list includes the president of the state oil company "Rosneft" Igor Sechin, the CEO of the state corporation "Russian Technologies" Chemezov, deputy head of the Kremlin administration, Vyacheslav Volodin, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak, presidential envoy to Russia in the Crimea Oleg Belavenets, chairman of the Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs Alexei guns and head of the Federal Security Service Eugene Moores. The sanctions also affected 17 Russian companies. All of them are controlled either by Gennady Timchenko or Arkady and Boris Rotenberg or the bank "Russia". In the list of companies with several banks including Ivestkapitalbank, Sobinbank and SMP Bank. All persons involved in the list can not enter the territory of the United States, and the assets that they have in this country, are frozen.
In response to the sanctions imposed by the president of "Rosneft" Igor Sechin said that considers the actions of the U.S. administration as "highly appreciated the efficiency of our work," and noted that cooperation with U.S. partners will continue. According to him, in Washington noticed "a proactive company to reduce the risks associated with the one-sided orientation of hydrocarbon exports to certain regional markets."
http://www.interfax.ru/business/374156
The fate of Ukraine must be decided by Ukrainians and the Ukrainian people as a whole, and not by the separatist minorities with face covered only speak the Russian language ..
In Ukraine is only the Ukrainians who must jointly decide their destiny and not in parts who prefer to speak Russian. Historical errors, many countries have done and are now not heal this with separatists and anti-democratic means ..!
This all has a reason to be very simple : If only the Ukrainian population decide their fate , it is very likely ; russia lost Ukraine forever. But they prefer only some Ukrainians, not all decide.
Ukrainians have to decide for them only, without Russia or the West , but mediated by these two unless democracy to Russia has different rules , it is very likely ..
Probably the population voting and access to information services freely, show what they really want . No wonder that in crimeira the first goal of citizen pro- Russia and Russia was occupying independent radio and information services , happened now in eastern Ukraine cities. the typical model to colonize a country or occupy: Cover Their eyes to see only what interests the colonizing country that wants to occupy part of another or implement a puppet government.
Everyone stay aware : if minorities here in Ukraine , decide their destiny in this anti democratic and separatist way to get what they want , you will see this happening all over the world . Russia is contributing much to it .. That is what you want in your country.. ? ! ..
If they are not minorities does not have to be afraid vote free and jointly.
Honestly thought that Russia had grown a bit since the Cold War .
Here's a clue for you: those Russian speakers are Ukrainian also, and their opinion matters. Kiev either calls off their dogs and starts negotiating, or this problem will grow completely out of controll.
Time will not favor the Pro-Russians. When putsch comes to shove, the Pro-Russians will only have the real Russians as friends. The Pro-Russians are burning bridges because they cannot find their place in this world.
Ukrainians had a legally elected government that the nulandites destroyed with a fascist backed coup. how does that figure in your theory of Ukranians deciding something?
The Ukrainian government was destroyed because the oligarchs stole everything. You are not doing your point of view justice by not admitting the obvious. I realize you have a point of view that needs to be "sold" but I don't think anyone is buying it.
Canucklehead...BS.....don't pretend to think for others...
Worst filthy Oligarchs gained more power..
its a run at Russia, stupid....
You talk as though nothing has changed since this low level conflict started. This has been going on for weeks and people are making their minds up about who is right and who is wrong.
Putin started strong, and was right to do so. I suspect his original strategy was to grab the Crimea and then let the national elections run their course. The power mad Russian Ukrainians decided they needed to step in front of Putin so they could guarantee a seat at the table. These Russian Ukrainians wanted to steal their share of booty, caused by the upheavel they are creating.
Time has rolled on and the Nazis on the Ukrainian side cannot motivate their side the way the Nazis on the Russian Ukrainian side can. The people of the world have tuned in Monday morning to find the Nazis of the Russian Ukrainians are behaving like the German Nazis of World War II fame, while the Nazis of the Ukrainian side either have lost their way, or are trying to be like a Bush Nazi. Either way, the Ukrainian Nazis cannot seem to get any traction. People are starting to call those Ukrainian Nazis the same names they called George Bush. The Russian Ukrainian Nazis are killing people, or attempting to kill people.
All in all, the Ukrainian Nazis appear to be Neo-Nazis, while the Russian Ukrainian Nazis present themselves as old school Nazis, similar to those from the 1930s and 1940s.
Legacy ??? That's cool, the man of Russia elected By Ukranians. Kim Jong-un has won 100% of votes too. for some reason Russia likes him ..?!
The Ukrainian elections were accepted as legitimate by the rest of the world. WTF are you on about??
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Whatever the highest bidder pays him to be on about.
Give your definiton of a "Ukrainian"
Since Ukraine is a country think there are Ukrainian citizens of that country or not.!. or is there another definition for the Ukrainians in the way you see? Maybe?
That territory is a country, a country has citizens, is an independent country to decide their fate together and not as is happening and has happened in the Crimea.
We Know perfectly. the decadent history of elections in that country for many years and not only in relation to the last term. Anyway, opinions are different ..
You do not have to argue with that guy, he is Putin's Troll, Putin told them Ukraine is part of Russia and that what they think.
Ne mechi biser pered sviniami
Good point ...
The NGO sponsored march/demonstration for self determination continues.
Equities are tanking, Ukraine is into civil war, Nuland hasn't been one bit careful about what she has wished for, and it's about to bite her in the *ss.
You can watch the bloodbath starting up in Ukraine, or watch the massacre in the U.S. starting up here. Take your pick:
http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures-advanced-chart
Oh for fucks sake, just put down those stupid smart phone cameras and stop taping every bloody second of the violence from every fucking angle.
Drop that smart phone for a rock, a bottle or a grenade launcher and get on with it already!
We don't need to see the carnage or who did wat to whom. Don't care that Boris has a booboo on his arm or leg.
Just results matter!
Can't we just get an honest fight between Russians and Ukrainiens without the dual citizens fucking it all up
Without the dual citizens there might actually be peace. Then what? Nothing for CNN to talk about.
No politicians or bankers were harmed in this riot.
Simon Ostrovsky Describes His Kidnapping: Russian Roulette In Ukraine (Dispatch Thirty One)
http://snapwire.com/videofeed/tQGRJN4Radk
The handiwork of the Orc neocons. Slaughter and mayhem are their calling cards.
Worse than a blind man who has always lived in censorship is a blind man who does not live in censorship.
Nothing more than a run-of-the-mill warmup to the summer Gay Pride Parade!
riot? you call that a riot? should have seen 1968, now there were some folks interested in doing some rioting, just saying,,,,
but no "smart" phones around to capture it all so it didn't really happen....
Odd that you should mention SMART PHONES.
As an American now living in Ukraine, I was surprised that ALMOST EVERYONE here appears to have a Smart Phone - except me! People occasionally ask me why I, as an American, have a "regular" old mobile phone instead of a Smart Phone. My reply is simply that I don't need one.
I picked up reading "The Five Stages of Collapse" by Dmitry Orlov. I'm extrapolating this to Chicago. Not good, as far as the everyday schmoe like me having to contend with this.
Until then...
Look like Kiev has gotten their troops to the East finally. The role of the Army is not to take down the Pro Russian movement in the East, it is to break down the road blocks and hold open the roads for the bus loads of Right Sector to reach these cities. Never forget, all the Right Sector are still collecting their EU/USA paychecks, 40-50 Euro a day, a fantastic sum for a days pay in Ukraine.
Civil wars are very often very ugly wars, as no one hates like neighbors do.
We have seen the pattern, the USA is on a nation busting spree. Iraq is torn apart in blood, Afghanistan is torn apart in blood, Syria is torn apart in blood, Libya is torn apart in blood, now Ukraine is torn apart in blood. The USA took the lead on all these nations. Yet, if you follow US media, we have been spreading freedom and prosperity everywhere we go. The US is now the world's biggest liar by far, Oh, perhaps North Korea gives 'em a run for their money.
This was the plan, Nuland and her husband are not Americans, we all know they are Israeli agents, yet they run American foreign policy, as we, the workers, pay the taxes to fund their adventures. Americans seem too stupid to react to this subversion, it seems junk food, TV and drugs have taken the fight out of Americans. We are passive witness now, nothing more. NSA and Police State cops have a death grip on anyone who takes it to the street, so it might as well be over.
Don't forget Egypt was torn apart with blood courtesy of the USSA too.
Time to bring in the Brit soccer hooligans to get this party started!
Years ago I was in a major Train Station in Britain when soccer hooligans hit the place. Good thing I was young enough then to defend myself. Jesus, that was an ugly scene.
Where are the transgendered troops? Unfair & unequal gender bias! Shame!
Looks like football fans wanting to havea massive brawl.
Nah, this is not real protesting.
Moar foodstamps!
The dirty slut Nuland must be jumping for joy, "There's gunfire, explosions and brutal clashes in the city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine as fighting erupted between pro- and anti-govt protesters, RT’s stringer reports from the scene."
All according to the bitches plans.
Makes her wet no doubt.
Hi Tyler, I just read that there was an American Learjet (G6) Was heavy loaded with gold and it has landed in Iran ...
The opposition in Ghana they say that the Learjet was transporting gold for oil.
HEre, it's from Bank of Utah:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/04/18/mystery-bank-of-utah-plane-lands-...
Nice. Comment from FDL identifies a Bank of America connection to the plane
http://wef-jets.blogspot.ca/2014/01/bank-of-america-cl60-n604ep.html
+1 This is tip worthy resurger.
Ukraine is at the start of a LONG Civil War.
War by camera....
War by Green Screen
Obama is so delighted that he's ordered frequent updates sent to his golf cart.
Ukrainians are Dumb-Asses! It's their new unelected government with Western NAZI backing that's causing all the ruckass. NY Times had to retrack their bullshit story about the Russians doing this.
You are a liar and a Russian. Ooops! That was redundant!
SAKER...RT Crosstalk presents real experts you won't see on main media
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/04/crosstalk-containment-20-ft-stephen.html
RT news is RUSSIAN STATE NEWS. It is propagands only.
Exactly. Facts that contradict State Department narrative are opposition propaganda by definition.
They're either with us or against us.
Until the cops completely run away, the L.A. riots still take first prize.
if you are anywhere near Chicago during the last stage of collapse you are way too late to worry about the first four stages. American civilization being what it is has collapsed gradually over the last 30 plus years. When the Mexican illegals decide to annex California, New Mexico, Arizona and Chicago because they can without too much of a fight we will have a real pickle on our hands. The fact that our government is just trying to tax to death the last working folk who support all those who don't pay taxes for apparently any reason allowed now days just adds expediency in giving our country away from the inside out. I don't recognize what we allow for decent public behavior any more. People shoot or try to kill with a vehicle because you cut them off on the tollway. Imagine if people really couldn't find food in a store in America's innner cities? HELL TO PAY. Don't think for one second there couldn't be martial law declared nationwide within 3 days of EBT cards stopping working. If you need to get out of dodge and miss that happening it will be too late. Don't think cops or soldiers will fire on you? You really want to roll those dice? Cops strangle homeless people who are unarmed. Come on. America? Glad I knew you. For all without a good education,,, that is a past tense word there, so sad.
THREE Days to imposition of Martial Law?
You're being rather optimistic there are you not? It only took s few HOURS of LOCAL EBT service provision interruption to result in some pretty memorable scenes (along the lines of "I'm helping myself, 'cause I CAN!")
The timeline might be more along the lines of 24 - 36 hours 'till Martial Law, three days until "All Hell Breaks Loose" in the more densely populated centres, with running turf battles between groups of very well-armed, and very highly - motivated, "former citizens".
The most important thing to take from this is the quick transition from a peaceful, civilized society to near total chaos. The US is three days away from this same thing happening, once a trigger event occurs. You can debate what the trigger point will be, but you can be sure that when it happens the stores will be closed (or looted), the store workers will not be leaving their homes to go to work, and the delivery trucks that re-supply those stores will not be running.
Seeing as "The Breakdown of Civilisation is but nine missed meals away", reality is going to be pretty brutal.
Remember it's not a case of "three days of temporary disruption", but three days at the start of a completely new experience for everyone (and a very unpleasant experience at that!). Vandalism / wanton destruction / looting of key infrastructure will certainly impede any attempts to restore a semblance of "normality", even if said normality has a closer resemblance toa full-on, no-holds-barred totalitarian rule, that what used to pass for "civilised society"
Who's arming both sides and goading them on? Again?
Meanwhile the US & EU-Governments are creating "strong sanctions", former German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder enjoys to party on his 70th birthday in St. Petersburg with his best friend & fellow Wladimir Putin - supported by the present Minister-President of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (State of East-Germany) Erwin Sellering.
Party & Sanctions, look: http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article127411354/Gerhard-Schroede...
State Department has got it's trolls on high alert. Out in force I see.
They should let the people move back to Pripyat freely; The new safe zone and an alternative from the growing civil war.