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The West Prepares: These Are All NATO Aircraft Deployments In Response To The Ukraine Crisis
It's all the Russians' fault? This does not exactly look like de-escalation to us...
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Libya is at 250K bpd and there is no evidence it will ever get better.
Nuke the Kremlin - it has been the fetid armpit of humanity for 300 years.
ummm, start with DC please & then your home.
....preferably during a family celebration
Ideally, a double tap when your daughter is getting married.
Napalm the wedding party.
Stop it, youre killing me...lmao
i guess 300 isnt a random number? where was murica 300 years ago?
Hello, can we get water in blue, not the land. Thks.
In his pursuit of the destruction of the USA, Obama is commited to killing the US Dollar as the reserve currency.
That's what I think, he is executing the plan by the numbers.
+100!!
This is probably one of the best summations of U.S. foreign policy and the banks that pull their strings.
"It's all the Russians' fault"?...
So we are blaming you for more than 50 years of our own reckless behavior that's exploited every Country we've ever done business with and created a path of devastation on anyone that didn't capitulate and follow our rules! Your land and the natural resources in it?...It's not fucking yours It's all ours until "we" say otherwise...
So what are you gonna do about it? Huh???...
Would not want to be the NATO pilots and "escorts" right about now.
Sure hope the Air Force and Navy pilots are starting to see the "cracks" in their own edifice before it's too late for them? You would have to be one arrogant stupid motherfucker to continue drinking the Kool-Aid if your career in the military has spanned just the last 10 years!
When they shoot your ass out of the sky I hope you're packing cyanide cause I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a NATO pilot facing capture over Russia or Ukraine!!!
Two words: Tsar Bomba.
Nah, they don't need big ones anymore, since the delivery systems are so accurate. Why one big bomb when the same missle could deliver 10 small ones right where you want them?
Two words: Dead Hand
northrop grumman is bored...lets get ready to ruummmmmmble
If Russa were to see its airforce destroyed and come under direct attack I would expect them to unleash holy hell. It that started how and when would it end?
The idea of America getting involved or jumping into a war in Ukraine would have been hard to imagine a few years ago. As I write this we are engaged in a war of words but the potential for this to escalate into a shooting war is real. Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality. As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome.
The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia. It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. It cannot be emphasized enough this government was not elected by the people and that the military of Ukraine is divided and extremely weak. More about this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html
Good luck without committing any actual ground forces. The Russians can walk right through everything and we'll be waving at them from the sky, I'd be very unhappy if I were Polish right about now.
Any NATO country is 'safe', and Putin fully knows it. However, Belarus should be very worried now (especially once Ukraine falls to Russia). On the other hand there is nothing in Belarus that Putin or Russia wants. The only interesting thing is Estonia being 100 miles from Saint Petersburg, and there being many Russian higher-ups today who lived/worked/work there.
And the only other interest is how China will respond to all these Western posing and puffery.
Russia and China have a ping-pong game now.
ahaha you got no clue. dont even talk pls
So what point ? Does Belarus go to EU or Russia (silly question)...I would bet Belarus goes to Russia in a heartbeat, especially since they have been intertwined since their independence.
(but would the West see that as a provocation?)
Do you think Russia would ever attack a NATO country ? or any NATO country first attack Russia ? I'd say no.
Same tactics would be tried on Belarus as they have done to Ukraine except Lukashenko is such a hardass.
I think there actually was an attempt at colored revolution, but was hardstopped quick.
Lukashenko is not pushover like Yanukovych...
incoherent post....stop posting until you learn what you are talking about...
You know nothing about Belarus...
My father's side is from Minsk and have family there. I guess that does not count ? Been to a few (USSR) Russian cities as well. Please provide some information rather than downtrodding the public ! I won't post anymore if there is no conversation, yes.
So what do the folks in Minsk have to say about all these goings on?
I'd say its not nearly as bad as Ukraine, and last year the EU inerest has worn off quite a bit.
Personally have not been to Minsk (or older Pinsk)...my 104 year old Aunt (RIP) came across to Brooklyn in 1899 when she was few years old.
Followed changes over there and take interest when possible. WWII took out much of the Father's side of the family in the 1940's.
Anyway all the non-NATO countries are probably figuring out what to do now that things may be freed-up and in-motion.
I don't think anyone expects war.
So you are saying that the folks in Minsk have less interest in an association with the EU than they had previously?
Is there any sense of the reason for that change in attitude?
I would have thought that EU association would be very attractive due to the labour mobilty it confers so that people are able to seek opportunity in the core EU states.
Are they as afraid of Putin and the RF as Kerry would have us believe?
Cyprus last year. And a lot of their own Belarus corruption, soured many (across Eastern Europe) on the EU.
The whole debt/IMF/fiat banking issues have turned many away. In addition, there are those in the EU that don't need or desire more debtors.
Of course, the IMF lives on debt. But the people of Europe don't want to take on any more problems (sorry).
But I'm not the expert.
Seems like Belarus and Ukraine are on very similar glidepaths to Russia.
Both countries are Russian breadbaskets, relying upon Russia for nearly all of their exports, finance, and energy needs.
Thanks for the insight.
It is an interesting contrast to the Kerry, Obama, western media blaming Putin for the unrest whereas your information supports the public of both Belarus and Ukraine becoming disenchanted with the EU (for all the same reasons continually voiced here on ZH).
Maybe we are about to enter a "Global Spring" in which the oppressed of the world unite and throw off the chains of their reserve currency.
Cheers!
Looks like he pissed on your turnips, volk
Nyet.....dog prevent and drag anyone here who try that insult..no turnip now anyway...
Post made no sense...Belarus is ally of Russia. Belarus President Lukashenko recently requested Russian fighter aircraft be stationed there to grow defense. I was told Belarus is on higher alert than Russia.
All I can think of is Poles live in west of Belarus might think Russia is out to get them...that is polish mindset, but they never notice they keep stirring shit... Of course Polish Government and outsiders are stirring fears for public consumption also...
I will ask friend in Minsk and area about this...
Volk -
The Belarus area was once part of Poland. Is there any sense of the Belorussians being concerned over possible Polish designs on their territory?
Any attack on a nuclear armed nation as big as Russia is suicide.I don't care how many jet fighters you've got.There are many other weopens available that will stop anything from flying or even driving for that matter.Neocons just love this kind of nonsense.
All that Russia would have to do is survive until our logistics starts to break down. All those fancy toys take quite a supply chain, and, up against Russia, we'd be burning through whole lotta shit.
Sensible comment. Should mention fuel supplies. Also, don't forget about production. Can we damage theirs enough? Can ours keep up or be brought up to speed fast enough? A long war would be bad for us. A really long war would probably be worse.
I think any fighting would be limited to Ukrianian battlespace and to NATO air and Ukrainian ground vs Russian ground and air. No bases would be hit on either side as long as they are outside Ukraine. A limited exhibition for both sides sales efforts.
Russia has massive civil defense.
omg....reminds me of the game battleship...lol...weirdness
Global Socialist fail is gonna get ugly fast, draft fail coming next, then chaos.
This is going to be a big phat Latino "FU draft the Jews" US history moment. (they are the 17-24 "target" audience).
KISS they want to prop up dollar by stirring up fear of conflict next time they should bluff someone less stubborn than Russia like umm idk who is left that we have not already threatened, hey what about say australia no they are allies, well anyone in africa worthy? nope too hot in summer anyway. now who would likely stand up to us but not go all jihad and shit. hmm lets pick india they could be good for a little global rumble and China won't care hey lets go bully those billion or so gold lovers now and leave eurasia alone, still quite hot there though and the mountains too hmm
well dam we seem to have run out of nations to stir shit with. sure wish there were interplanetary travel so we could go lay waste to non human terrorists stupid aliens probably don't even believe in god
This is mainly an economic war and at the center of this war is gold. Curiously absent in this war is any direct mention of gold as a weapon by Putin even though it is a very effective weapon. This leads me to believe that Putin is complicit with the West and the plan is to create a great distraction with a new Cold War.
Putin aint on the Socialist debasement team side (bean there done that), we're waging economic warfare against Russia by supressing gold prices while they're selling gold to meet dollar obligations.
Avoid gold, the cold war is over, we surrendered and joined the losing side, Russia joined the free market liberty side.
Scorecard: briefly America is the broke looter bad guys printing paper like Zimbabwe (actually we print them to shame, literally) , Putin the Patriot for private property and sovereignty rights.
This is all about sovereignty, Ukraine & Russia's sovereignty versus the non-sovereignty chaos of the EU, which is now a permanent mob-rule debtors prison.
Joining the EU is a permenent and irreversable obliteration of national sovereignty, and ultimately over time and demographics a submission to Islam, or constant war forever.
"Avoid gold, the cold war is over, we surrendered and joined the losing side, Russia joined the free market liberty side."
I don't know that an oligarchy is a free market liberty side.
Brilliant on Putin's part, think of the petro sales increases from all those aircraft re-deployments, I bet they increase jet fuel sales $100M a month while they dick the Kenyan around, all paid for with MOAR US & EU debt-owned by Russia. Imagine the deal we'll get should people stop taking US dollars.
A sale of Russian S-300 to Iran was considered by Israel to be an act of war by Iran and Israel promised to attack if that sale went through. Because S-300 is one of the best anti aircarft missiles systems on earth. Do not point to it's introduction date, the entire system is upgraded as new electronics and new missiles are added. Russia upped their game with S-400, this added a whole range of medium and long range missiles allowing S-400 to operate against most targets, for protection the mobile launchers will have TOR M2U with it's brand new missile, proven against smart bombs, cruise missile and aircraft targets at medium and shorter ranges. All systems are mobile, presenting no static targets to attack. TOR M2U can fire on the move, S-300 and S-400 can take a few minutes to set up fire and move. S-500 anti missile system is nearing it's deployment. Nothing is static. Also, Russia uses a whole range of non radar detection, passive systems that rely on targets electronic and heat emissions to track and target. That's right, they leave a strong signature that is tracked by multiple integrated passive detectors. This ain't the USSR, this is a state that now has had 20 years of high technology, you can't just hide High tech in 2014.
Russian Physicists are World's Best
Hope this is playing when they take off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmQq6yLe2ww
God Bless America!
Those Typhoons are a bit of a joke. The Russians won't be too scared of the F-16s and SAABs, either. Odds are the Russians have 50-100 missiles ready for every NATO plane in this diagram.
It's the drones and the stealth assets not pictured that would make things dicey.
It really comes down to who's UAVs and missiles can take out the other's UAV's and missiles. Planes are secondary.
Tyler engages in some Matt Drudge esc sensationalism - 42 stinkin' aircraft "mustered" to confront Russia! Don't make me laugh! Nerwin NATO's jammed a big pickle in his front pocket to make you think he's a REAL man!
What a joke.
Anyone who missed that NATO's steady build up around Russia's western flanks has been gathering momentum for years and "was" to include Ukraine & Crimea to the south, is not paying attention and is missing what this Ukraine fracas is about. As always, timing is difficult to predict but surrounding Russia to pick it off has been a long time plan of NATO's masters. That plan is now being put into effect to hide the collapsing western economies.
I cannot recall a geo-political dispute that is more false or more manufactured than this one and it has nothing to do Ukraine at all; they're just the inconvenient battleground.
The risks are huge and I predict that if the West & NATO start a war with Russia, millions will be out on the streets across America, Britain and Europe. Hopefully, the maniacs running our countries will finally be held to account. This will be the tipping point. Enough is Enough.
You are correct. But add China to the enemy list of Russia. China is more capitalistic than the US. And China has a big population and not a big territory like Russia.
So China could take a huge part of Russia, you know the one with lots of gas and oil. Siberia.
And China has its own "crimeans" beeing clearly oppressed as we speak by the white man from Russia.
China will be allied with the West in the upcoming WW3.
You sound like a rich Chinese student living in the US.
That sums it up nicely smacker. This is a manufactured crisis that was put in motion by CIA funding of Right Sector, the training of their protestors and probably the supply of timely snipers. It is all about the drive on Moscow, and Inded, it is NOW because the clock is ticking of the fiat dollar hegemony. Look for the west to play this right to the brink of a nuclear war. They are that serious. Just look at the total propaganda control over media in the west, this is a sign that everyone is onboard for the big win. We all may die for the delusions of a Washington elite who are shameless greedmasters.
Here's a slice of toxic propaganda:
"On April 28, 2014, the homepage of The Washington Post web site featured the picture of a nuclear explosion with the following title: “War is brutal. The alternative is worse.”
"But it gets worse, if that’s even possible. Clicking on the article, you get this: “Wars make us safer and richer."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-is-peace-it-makes-us-rich-and-safe-or-s...
That WaPo warmongering garbage propaganda is just mind blowing.
Perfect analysis Jack, as always.
I think you and Jack should get a room where you can make beautiful bullshit together.
I don't think enough people see the "synchronicity" of the dollar crisis and Ukraine as a diversion.
Agreed. But methinks it's more than just the dollar crises, albeit that's one of the big 'uns.
Disastrous economic policy interventions to contain the multiple crises that emerged in the 2008 crash are now seen to have failed and the US/global economy continues to worsen with sovereign debt levels still out of control. The consequences are unfolding.
Starting foreign wars has long been a political tactic of distraction to rally the people round the flag and limit unrest at home. Argentina did exactly that in 1982 when their economy collapsed. The USG is doing the same with its wholly manufactured Ukraine crises to face-off Russia. Britain, Europe and Oz will ride on the coattails.
Smacker -
I agree with your analysis that we are seeing is really a continuation of the 2008 financial crisis.
Lax US banking regulation led the the creation of new financial products sold to global rubes seeking higher returns.
Collapse of US housing market revealed the ponzi for what it was but governments and central banks were unable to address the issues as they were too enmeshed in trying to keep the global economy afloat.
The attempted solution of money printing in an attempt to recapitalize the banks was no solution at all. Plus the Washington elite have no wish to understand the problem or resolve it. So they tinker round the margins with Syria, Libya, Ukraine in the belief that these are meaningful undertakings.
Meanwhile the system totters forward, increasingly top heavy, increasingly subject to internal contradictions, and increasingly unable to respond to new challenges, and increasingly seeking to place the blame on external "enemies" such as Putin.
sushi. I agree with all that, thanks. Very nicely put.
China's got the same problem with the west as Russia. Those two are playing on the same team now, becomes more obvious every day. And there will be others joining the opposition. This NWO agenda the G7 is pushing is out there now and not everybody wants to get absorbed into the borg.
The Ruskies have already taken the Ukraine......the next question is which country is next......this will slowly become WW3.....
but not over The Ukraine.......
all those hot Ukarine bitches are now gonna be on a train leaving or will be getting nailed nightly by Russians......
There better be enough transport planes to get those hot Russian and Ukranian pornstars out of there safely - these bitches provide a vital service and do great work!!
And you can motorboat most of them which is a nice added bonus.
Martin Armstrong noted that Kerry just stated the NATO would defend every inch of its territory. Armstrong also noted that NATO territory does not include Ukraine.
In effect Kerry drew a red line and Ukraine is on the other side of it.
Kerry backtracks so much his eyes should be relocated to his ass.
His kind is all ass...
But with an oddly horselike face.
Who would notice the difference?
'Americans' are so self centered... They cant conceive a world outside themselves.
This servant to the US american middle class did not speak to the US american middle class.
He spoke to some other middle class 'americans' that are located in Poland, Finland Romania etc to ensure that the russian threat will be contained.
As to Ukraine, 'american' servants are working hard at wrestling it out of the russian clutches. So it is not yet under 'american' imperium.
People in power, even when they are 'american', are forced to deal in reality.
The reality is that 'americans' nations are close to Russia and that Ukraine is not yet part of the 'american' empire.
Germany is with Russia as of yesterday. Schroeder pulled the strings last night. Sorry, team USSA. Better luck next time. Sanctions shmanctions. Time to drive a stake through the Dollar's heart and blow up the City and Wall Street casinos. We have the Natgas Euro now and it will serve as a good alternative to the Petro Dollar.
I concur http://www.debka.com said yesterday that
OBAMA, CAN'T DO SHIT, ... JUST LIKE SYRIA.
The USA can print FIAT for FREE, so it was easy for HILLARY and LURCH to give NULAND $5 billion USD.
It was supposed to be easy to PUT in Tel-Aviv Puppets
and run UKRAINE by KEIV,
Mission Failed, ...
Game-Over, ... but for some dumb reason everybody
talks shit like OBAMA is actually going to do something.
Here's the DEAL boy's, the ONLY thing the USA has
is FREE MONEY, they don't got anything else.
They don't got balls, or brains, or a MIL. The Current MIL is fucking tired, remember it was the GENERALS that told OBAMA "NO" on SYRIA, or have the UNICORNS already
forgotten?
China is also with RUSSIA,
That essentially leave the USA standing alone, and when I say USA, we're really talking about the ZIO-NEO-CON's that put OBAMA in power.
The reset is coming the US-MIL is inches away from
a COUP.
The ONLY support OBAMA get's is because his NEO-ZIO-CON controls the NSA, and they have a microscope up everyones ass, you all think the US-MIL likes this scenario?
They DON'T open your eyes.
Even Jim Rogers said today that the USA has never been closer to a violent revolution and COUP since the CIVIL WAR.
The US-MIL is sick and tired of being a sock-puppet for the NEO-ZIO-CON's, the Troops are tired, broke, and
de-moralized.
NEO-ZIO-CON McCAIN or LURCH don't speak for the
Troops.
Nuke Pro has been promoting the idea that we have to harden our electrical grid, or risk the annihilation of the human species. Yes, it really is that bad. And get rid of nuke.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/04/nasa-explains-how-we-missed...
See:
http://cryptome.org/2014/04/nrc-terrorism-power-grid.pdf
It's all there...
NASA video explains how we were 2 days away from a world wide emergency that would have 100 nuclear plants melting down....in 2012
Nuke Pro has been promoting the idea that we have to harden our electrical grid, or risk the annihilation of the human species. Yes, it really is that bad. And get rid of nuke.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/04/nasa-explains-how-we-missed...
why is the land blue?
Because they are playing Come On In My Kitchen.
"Do you want to play a game?!"
it is all end-game and 'looks good' (to who?). No bullets. Just show and West retreat with whatever remains of the edifice. Russia gets Ukraine, and all debts void.
What if NATO attempted a war on Russia and the pentagon didn't show up?
How long do you think it would take for that scenario to play out????
NATO is 75% US MIC..............so we are NATO
I wrote 'pentagon' not langley......
How old is Rambo now?
Or the Snake
no desire to get religious/soapy here, but, purportedly, the Blessed Mother in the early 20th Century told the children of Fatima that Russia would one day save the world. if true, what does that mean? it has had the brightest of minds perplexed since.
I prefer to listen to the great prophet, Nostril Dumbass.
God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. You'd have thought she would have known that. But she was of the secret knowledge cult so she probably had a time travel passport or two.
I love it when all these Tom Clancy types come out of the woodwork.
The Serbs brought down an F-16 over Bosnia by twinkling a radar at it from miles away,just strong enough to get data,then sent this data over microwave link to the SAM battery underneath the jet.Fire the missle blind,then the seeker turns on about 500 meters from target,no time for evasive or jamming countermeasures.There was an AWACs flying around which probably was unhelpful as it designated the far radar as no threat,and the SAM batteries are mobile and change location.
One old SAM missle vs. One very expensive F-16 and complicated but successful retrieval of the pilot.
The Blackhawks over Mogadishu were brought down by RPG's fired at the tail boom,fitted with proximity fuses.
People shouldn't fixate on technology.Simple stuff and methods work too.
The same old useless crap SAM also brought down an F-117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown
And the ruskies don't take a shit without a plan son...
I'll carver free head stones (nice ones) for any leaders that believe their bs enough to grab a rifle and be the first to die in their war.
Wasn't Putin's ratings slipping just before all this?
Surpirsed Obama Admin. is showing such unusual restraint.
Drones in 3...2...1
WTF are super slow drones going do to a country with advanced air defenses? Not to mention the capability of just hacking them and landing them or repurposing them to attack their own bases?
I hope our current administration does not get a Charles Atlas complex from getting sand kicked in its face repeatedly. The last thing we need is for our frustrated childish regime to decide to strike out haphazardly at its perceived tormenter to gain a few approval points and act tough. If they were really tough and smart none of these foreign debacles the last couple of years would have happened, they could have steered a much better course.
The Canadian planes, 6 F-18s, were moved from Poland to Romania. Harper is an idiot.
Look at the bright side.
Soon you'll get to buy a new shiny fleet of F22s.
Ain't ya glad we are pals?
I don't like it any more than you, brother.
hope so, 'cause nobody deserves better, a ass whuppin' than uncle sam.
problem is
1. no politicians son or daughter will be in combat
2. none of the politicians give a shit about the men or women who would die over there
3. John McCain would be the first one calling for nukes after casualties mounted beyond a couple thousand
So when we think 'uncle sam' should get a whuppin, no lesson will be learned. All that will happen is our young men and women who think they're being patriotic, will die for a senseless cause.
You'd think after Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan we'd have learned something. 60,000+ lives for what? Nothing.
Iraq is unstable, Afghanistan is about to implode... and we trade with 'communist' Vietnam.
can't refute a word bro.
You'd think after Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan we'd have learned something. 60,000+ lives for what?
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They had to die because the masters of MIC constantly need to make MOAR profit$$$$$$$$$$$$$...$.
personally, I don't think either side is going to waste to much time or effort on conventional warfare.
to expensive, to messy and to time consuming as it would take years, maybe decades to sort this out "in the trenches" so to speak.
no, my guess is the nukes will come out pretty damn quick in the event this goes hot with one side hoping for the quick victory, the ultimate shock and awe. of course this isn't the cold war anymore, so there won't be any "day after" scenario where all the buttons get pushed at once and we end up with about thirty minutes or so to reflect on how things could have so wrong, so fast.
this is the new age of tactical global first strike, anywhere, anytime and so damn fast you won't know it happened until after it happened. disable, disrupt and destroy in five minutes or less all without a single boot on the ground. now what self respecting community organizer could pass that up? I don't imagine nuclear weapons have been this attractive as a problem solving tool to the power elite since, well, world war II.
so on the subject of aircraft does anybody know where the B-2's or the Strats have been making the rounds lately? now that's something to keep an eye out for.
good observation. it'll be for all the marbles real quick.
No "Conventional Warfare" was Sadam's thinking process, too.
Regarding nukes, when you are the aggressor, Russia, you cannot very well play that card.
On the other hand, once we have destroyed his Navy and Airforce over the first week of conflict, decimated his ground forces and armor with air strikes and over the horizon targeted missile strikes... then you will see the Russian cowards pull out the Nuke Threat card.
It will be a moment of predictable Russian Disgrace.
Look at air losses of Vietnam conflict....
notice that top ace and most aces were not American
Your thoughts?
And Russia has "Doomsday System" a group of sensors which monitor RF territory for any singatures of nuclear weapons explosion. If such explosions are detected then the system has the capacity to automatically order full retailitory attack with no further human intervention required.
Some debate over current status of system but the concept fits in with well with the game theory underlying MAD.
As I shook my chicken bones and threw them on the floor, one thing became very very clear.
The US is fucked.
My thoughts? Apparently the F-8 Crusader/post top gun school had the highest kill ratio against Migs at 9:1.
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This is what I found on Wiki answers:
(http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_aircraft_kill_ratio_during_Vietna...)
What was the aircraft kill ratio during Vietnam between migs and American aircraft?
In: Vietnam War [Edit categories]
Answer:
A conservative estimate was about 2 to 1 in favor of the NVAF who were flyng MiG-17's up thru Rolling Thunder ('65-'68).
In 1969, after the USN's Top Gun school opened in California, the air kills reversed; and US airmen were being credited with 3 & 4 to 1 kills in favor of the US.
The best aerial kill ratio for a single jet fighter type, may have been accomplished by the USN's F8 Crusader (the last gunfighter) with a possible ratio of 19 to 1. Although most historians don't like to admit it, the MiG-21 was favored over the MiG-17 by NVAF pilots (and not the other way around). Most of the North Vietnamese pilots scored their aerial kills while flying the MiG-21.
The North's MiG-17's may have gotten their favorite "status" from the early war years, when that was the only jet that US fighter pilots encountered on a regular basis.
The North Vietnamese AF received their MiG-19's (J6 versions) strictly from Communist China in 1969, and their MiG-21's came strictly from the USSR. MiG-17's came from both super powers.
The MiG-19 was an excellent jet, but because it had twin engines, it was a maintenance headache for the ground crews.
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Volk, if you put a rusty air-force like that of Russia up against the NATO force, it will be utterly destroyed. Please tell the Russian people this horrible truth so that the misery for them can be avoided.
Average airframe age of jet fighters is lower in Russia compared to USAF.
Average tech of RF fighters is equal to or better than USAF / NATO
Average RF AA missile tech is superior on paper but this has yet to experience real world validation.
like Stalingrad WWII?
Yes, Princess Putin will be playing the role of Hitler.
From the Globe - " Lieutenant-General Yvan Blondin, commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force, told reporters as Canada’s warplanes left Bagotville, Que., for Romania Tuesday morning. The fighters first headed to Iceland before receiving further direction"
Where is the Libyan gold?
Where is the Ukrainian gold?
Take their nukes and give them a guarantee,written,see right here...
Also,lots of weapons shipped out of Libya for Syria.Maybe those mercs saw something they shouldn't have.
Also the mercs on the container ship that died of heroin overdose.Smoke a bit of weed,bonk some local girls....But who wants to give up a $200k job these days? Naw,don't believe it .Again,they saw something or suspected something. Bioweapons bound for Beijing on MH370?
And what about the weird cell phone call from Diego Garcia? Hmmm....
Enquiring minds want to know....
if some recall, the russians suggested a couple of weeks after MH370 missing that u.s shipped something mysterious to diago garcia shortly before. cell phone attempted connection around area of d.g. from mh370 confirmed. did mh370 touch down in d.g. to pick up nuke/bioWMD for false flag incident in area north of bay of bengal?
What could be NOPQRSTUVWXYZ? That's 13 more somethings.
Russia and Czarina Vladima are facing the wood chipper. It will be up to the glass slippered princess in the Kremlin as to whether or not they jump in.
If the Russian government has the best interests of the Russian people, then Russia will back down. A "back down" will likely require back room threats by the Russian military directed at Putin.
In best Rocky 4 voice.... I-D-I-O-T!!!
The Kremlin Princess will be forced to say "Moose and Squirrel" within 5 to 7 days of any hot conflict. Believe it.
no, the bettin' there is they can take our best punch, and, we can't take theirs post.
Only a Putin "Inner Circle" man would think that.
The proof is in the Pudding.
The proof will beat in the Putin'.
MOSCOW, April 29 (RIA Novosti) – Two Russian navy ships, together with forces from Nicaragua and Honduras, have taken part in anti-narcotics naval exercises in the Caribbean, a spokesman for Russia’s Northern Fleet said Tuesday.
“The exercises focused on joint efforts to stop organized criminal groups and cut drug smuggling channels in territorial waters of Latin American states,” Northern Fleet spokesman Capt. 2nd Rank Yevgeny Kirillov said.
Russia sent a Vishnya-class intelligence ship, the Viktor Leonov, and the Nikolay Chiker support vessel to the exercises.
Police forces from Nicaragua and special police units from Honduras also took part.
Russia has started reviving its navy and strategic aviation since the mid-2000s, seeing them as a tool to project Russia’s image abroad and to protect the country’s interests around the globe.
Really good to hear it.
The closer the Russian ships are to US military ports-of-call, the more expeditious will be the task of sinking said ships. I salute the Russian Admiral who seeks his grave along side the Caribbean Pirates of the 1820s.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude to the problem!" - Cpt. Jack Sparrow
Attention students, report cards will be coming out soon.
don't hear reports of u.s. navy ships off vladivostock.
You did not hear about the killer subs eyeballing the Russian fleet? Yawn.
Reposted this because of the photo in the article:
Diane Feinstein shakes hands with James Clapper sealing the deal that allows the Obama Administration to continue murdering at whim anybody, anytime, anyplace, in secret.
Photo and story -- http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/drone-civilian-casualties-s...
I up arrow that!
The secret is that the Obama administration run a country according to 'americanism'?
Look at stupid Canada throwing in their lot...bloody Harper...they planted their damn flag in your backyard (north pole) and NOW you're chirping?
lmfao.
Allow me to bring some reality into the discussion.
Why the fuck does Canada waste money on Air defense? If Russia, or the US ever decided they wanted to take Canada, there is little they could do.
Seriously, spend that money elsewhere. Playing big-boy chess on the global stage with only a handful of pawns at your disposal is not a wise expenditure.
Canada and the UK are like the chihuahuas in the pack following around the rotty or pit.
Boy, did you get that wrong! Try not to comment, inc, until you get a clue.
You're the one running around with the Anti Putin sentiments, correct?
Shall we look for a clue together?
Add Australia and New Zealand as minnows in pack of sharks.
Our politicians, ever since the London Empire, have always tried to strut on the World Stage, though our populations combined have never much exceeded the population of Greater London.
From the Boer War, to WW1, WW2, the Korean War, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and more, our politicians have always supported the Empire-of-the-day, not least including the wannabe empire of aphartheid Israhell.
Go figure why these very little men (and women) have bloated ambitions.
BTW the sociopaths in Canberra (both 'sides of politics') are hell-bent on buying the F 35 POS.
The US DoD has had to have every piece of equipment nutered by a committee and some Congressman or Senator who needed jobs in his district.
If the US cant go toe to toe with Russia it is the fault of the bureaucrats and tge politicians.
Ive never been concerned for atomic warfare. I assumed TPTB would be far to concerned in maintaining the status quo...now I feel TPTB are too stupid to know when theyve gone too far.
best kept secret? we can't go toe-to-toe, all things consider. this isn't 1940. in the end, we lose - everything!
arrogance begets a whuppin' .
NATO will deliver it.
Speaking of "Arrogance", here is Princess Putin's Wedding video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHrmaFPnhoM
NATO is a mirage. Russia is Stalingrad WWII.
Russia attacking Ukraine will be another example of a leader NOT learning from Napoleon's march through Ukraine.
Krauts blew through it right quick. They even gave them a few shots dof vodka to cut the dust....it being a lightening war and all...
It always appears to be a picnic until the rains immobilize your tanks and your troops making then easy targets from above. And then mother winter will say "Good Night" to mother Russia...the bodies of Russian conscripts will make excellent building material until the eventual thaw.
you are stupid.
ok
I just had gay bathroom sex with Jesus, so I don't really care about any thing else right now thanks.
So that's where he's been. I always thought he was a little light in the zapatos. Tell him my lawn still ain't mowed, that Oaxaca whore. You may wanna get checked too.
May 11 there may be a vote to join Russia in Donetsk.
http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/ukraine-separatist-names-to-know-denis-pushilin-series/
Conquer and Divide.