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Putin: 'US Behind Ukraine Crisis From The Beginning...Now Leading It'
Having decided counter-sanctions are useless for now, reflecting on the uselessness of Western sanctions against his nation, Vladimir Putin warned, however, that if they continue he would "have to think about who is working in the key sectors of the Russian economy" - in other words, protectionism is coming. However, it is his ominous words regarding Washington's involvement in the crisis that appear to have fallen on deaf ears among the mainstream media... though will be no surprise to ZH readers "what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow." As Seregy Lavrov also added later in the day, the way the situation in Ukraine is reported in mainstream media indicates that "unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleagues is working at full capacity."
The US has been behind the Ukrainian crisis from the beginning, but was initially flying low, Russian President Vladimir Putin has told journalists, adding that he called on Kiev to establish an all-Ukrainian dialogue and find a compromise.
“I think what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow,” Putin said, as quoted by RIA Novosti.
Putin stated that since the US has taken a lead role in resolving the political crisis in Ukraine, it is “telling that they originally were behind this process, but now they just have emerged as leaders” of it.
The "Maidan cookies" policy paves the way to a broader crisis, Putin warned, referring to US officials showing up in central Kiev and encouraging protesters during demonstrations.
“It is necessary to understand that the situation is serious and try to find serious approaches to the solution,” he said.
Putin said that he has called on Kiev to start an all-Ukrainian dialogue, adding that other countries should not be blamed for the crisis.
“[They should] treat equally the rights of those living in other areas of Ukraine, first of all, I mean, the east and southeast, establish a dialogue, find a compromise," he told journalists while speaking about the measures necessary to put an end to the crisis. “Here's what you need to do; searching for the guilty outside Ukraine is wrong.”
More "costs" as the West tries to wriggle its way from the under the pile it has created and scapegoat an unwilling to play Russia...?
But perhaps Sergey Lavrov said it perfectly...
Washington's approach to the events in Ukraine is not fueled by concerns about the fate of the crisis-torn state, but rather by the desire to prove it is still running the show worldwide, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
The way the situation in Ukraine is reported in mainstream media indicates that “unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleagues is working at full capacity,” Lavrov said following talks with his Chilean counterpart, Heraldo Munoz, in Santiago.
The US is trying to shape public opinion in a specific manner “because they are not concerned by the fate of Ukraine in the first place, but have strong desire to prove that it’s them who decides how things should be – always and everywhere,” Lavrov stated.
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Yes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Bush/Obama, what is the difference between both lead clowns when the banksters and PNAC control the circus?
Besides, the vast majority of the EU lead clowns have been compromised by the NSA, vote as we demand or explain your relations with criminals/pimps/theft/littleboys and girls etc. But a new EU criminal class will emerge, uncompromised by blocking NSA spying, and so things will change for the better.
Plan?
invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat invade, control, loot, repeat
That's been "the plan" for the last 10,000 years.
The West. Russia has the West of USA on the East and the West of EU on the West. What a country.
Maidan Cookie-Puss
Hey Vland, he's your Kenyan Communist President not ours, we take no responsibility for our elections, nuke away.
funny, but since 1991 the russian's have gone from communism, to socialism... to a close-enough-democratic-republic-- whereas the ussa has gone from democracy to fascism/statism, and now socialistic/ communism.
this is what 'change' brings when hope is just that... a four-letter word with no character
cold-war is good... greed is good... appeasment/containment are good-- so says the last 50 +/+ years of amerikan foreign policy when joeseph kennedy bought his son the presidency?!?
jmo
and now socialistic/ communism
Last I heard, businesses/coporations don't like handing them over to the state.
Try Crony Capitialism. Much better fit. And yes, I junked you.
Common, Vlad; just stand up and tell the Kenyan Mullatoe to fuck off. Just do it. Everyone will stand up and applaud.
Well, one littlish one maybe; if it's carefully targeted on Washington, DC.
This will never end until the self entitled Elitists...go away. This situation is going to get exponentially worse as "intellectuals" try to implement their blueprints for a One-World-Order. If it fails and gets a bunch of people killed, no big deal, it isn't like they will do any of the dirty work themselves or pay for anything they break.
This should be good for Russian Diplomats to NYC...aka spies...should see and uptick in those Diplomatic visas
'lead from behind!'
'a neo-asymmetric war strategy not lost since the anachronistic, 'bush-wacker recipe`ace'-- an archaic, and phyrric umbra`foreign policy...'
That was Kerry's skull-n-bones name.
Oh yeah! That's right and it wasn't an actual "cookie" as it was more like cookie-dough but it wasn't actually cookie-dough. You see "W" perched himself over the open casket and Cookie opened his mouth to receive his Gift!
Membership has its privileges.
We have a former KGB agent who has been known to dish out polonium sandwiches, and he accuses the US of being neck deep in the Ukraine mess. The sad thing is, he is right. The question regarding the US's involvement in Ukraine is not whether or not we were and are involved, but to what degree.
Stop and think about that for a moment. We truly are living in bizarro world.
And we weren't doing that good of a job of staying in the shadows. Just ask the fucking cookie woman.
Cookie woman????
That be Michelle?
Nuland
What you said. Nuland. Lets bake some fucking cookies and hand them to Ukrainian police to get them on our side, then fund a coup!
FUUUUUUUUUCK that is dumb.
How could the cookie thing be anything but a deliberate taunt to Russia?
pot cookies for all sides would cool down the crisis.
i was thinking more like some pure MDMA in the water supply
or maybe like a mass ayahuasca ceremony on the Maiden...
well, now that you're at it: psilocybin, lsd, mescaline, ..
You might want to consider lay off the polonium thing...wasn't as you were told and now the brits don't want talk about it..
Once things get busy, you will find there are fewer supporters of your point of view than you estimated. The end result is the speed of events will overtake you and you will quietly fade away. As they said during the Battle of the Atlantic... Enjoy the Happy Times...
What most are obviously forgetting is that both the west and Russia are in full propaganda mode. I think Putin is at the very least semi accurate in his assertion that the US began this. But most of all do not forget that the Russians are masters of dis-info and propaganda and have had a lot of practice on the US citizenry. The US heavily propagandizes it's own citizens but Russia is/has been able to propagandize the US going back many years. Our own Sec of State, Lurch, was an unwitting purveyor of propaganda at the end of the Vietnam war that eventually led to the slaughter of what remained of the South Vietnamese army.
I take no sides in this as all sides are responsible for this mess. I tend to agree that the west has played a bigger role than Russia but do not forget that this is a much wider economic/Geo-political fight that has been raging for a while now. I hold them all responsible for destabilizing the world.
+1
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/donetsk-clashes-break-out-scene...
SAKER: http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9674pRBm6g#t=22
More vacuous gum flapping on both sides...... flap flap flap flap flap flap....
I don't cut and paste, but this little bit of analysis of a Ukrainian TV show yesterday says a good deal about the sanity of Kiev Coup members. "On the same program on Ukie TV which featured Nemtsov, a well-know Ukrainian nationalist, Iurii Lutsenko, seriously declared that the "genetic code of the Ukrainian people give them the ability to live outside lies, whereas the genetic code of childern of Gengis Khan makes them willing to live in lies and spread the patriotic syphillis". His comments about the genetic makeup was made particularly comical since he was sitting next to a Jew (Nemtsov), on a TV show hosted by a Jew (Savik Shuster) and that he was co-organizing the conference which invited Nemtsov to Kiev with another famous Jew (Khodorkovsky). I wonder why these Jews who usually are hyper-sensitive to "genetic" issues all remained silent and smiling when a neo-Nazi nationalist was seriously discussing how the Asia genes of Russians made them different and less capable of opposing lies than the putative Ukrainian "race".
Jack (if that is your real name) don't you understand that being an anti-semite does not promote your point of view in the free world? I realize you have a deep animosity to the Jewish people, but you need to understand that God chose them, not you.
More brainwashed ignorance...
Isn't the Western World Great?
I mean, both you and I can state our opinions, and the wisest people on the face of the planet can click a green arrow or a red arrow... and Everybody is Happy, Happy, Happy...
I leave semitism, anti or not, to others. A shithead is a shithead to me. You are a shithead.
Semites? These ain't no semites! The AshkeNAZI are all khazars. Or in short, orcs.
Arthur Koestler invented the story that Ashkenazi's aren't racially jewish because he was trying to lower anti-jewish prejudice. He later admitted it.
I suggest that your average Zionist today is an anti-semite. Arabs are semitic. They are anti-arab. In fact, and their religious books support, they are anti-stranger, and that is carefully defined. On pain of exclusion and death a hard stance is taken, a racist position (like the ex-NBA owner) of the right to subjugate, enslave, and kill "the stranger", is in their law.
So, Arthur Koestler says that when Khazarians adopted judaism (and became known as Ashkenazi jews, eventually spreading out from there to Eastern Europe, Europe, Russia and many other parts of the world over the centuries), they magically became "racially jewish".
By the same token, a majority of "jews" in the world today, including most Zionists, Israelis, across Europe and America are "racially jewish", because they mostly originate from the Ashkenazi strand. It has to work both ways.
I find all that very difficult because many jews themselves are very particular about who can call themselves jewish. They say a person cannot simply adopt judaism and call himself a jew. There has to be a bloodline connection. Which of course Ashkenazis do not have, since they adopted judaism during the days of the Khazar Empire.
Perhaps Arthur Koestler has an explanation for this too.
When you refer to "strand," are you referring to a strand as in DNA?
Thanking you in advance for your reply.
Not exactly. I was referring to societal splits or forks that occur. An example would be Christianity where there are many strands or forks of it. But they're all Christians as distinct from (say) Moslems or Jews. Thus, Ashkenazi Jews are a strand or subset of Judaism. But some original Jews from Middle East say that Ashkenazis from Khazar are not real Jews and have called them the "13th tribe".
God decides who is Jewish. For example, when a baby is born to Jewish parents, God has determined that the baby is Jewish.
A similar story for Mohammad. He became a religious leader because he was Jewish. Many may argue otherwise. Mohammad ascended to heaven from a Jewish holy site to talk to God. When God sent him back to earth, Mohammad came back as a Jewish holy leader.
It was only after he fell in with a bunch of Infidels that he adopted all of their "bad" ways. God has never forgiven him for that.
In the Torah Moses was forgiven by killing a whole kingdom, his wife, and his son! It was all made right by wiping out the "strangers" who welcomed him in. Once they were enslaved they took all the virgin daughters and handed them out. This was specifically because he fell in with outsiders and it was the only way of making it right.
Moses is spelt M-O-S-E-S. Mohammad is spelt M-O-H-A-M-M-A-D.
They are not the same guy.
No dickhead. Go back and read the thread. I know its hard for you to keep two thoughts in your head. I'm sorry if that hurt your head, maybe it was canuckled when you were a suckling.
What's your point? Did you cut and paste your earlier response from some other thread?
I, sir, use a typewriter for everything!
I take it that we are agreed on things we agree on, and disagree on things we disagree on...
Canucklehead - You give every person that believes in a creator, a source a very bad name. You must not be Jewish or you would put a hyphon between G and D like this to say god G_D. Don't know why that is so important, the name Moses got for god was "I AM" it denotes the creator is all things or is in all things.
I believe in an original source code that expands and contracts, for eternity until a new paradigm can be considered. This may or may not be possible. Christ called this the recreation, science seems to point that each time is slightly varying based upon radioactive deviations but we do not know for sure.
The more I studied religions and those I deemed wise in knowledge (including Christ) the more I became a pandeist. Perhaps like our life, station in existence is a rotating chair. That actually is in Revelations. I think the names are irrelevant, the personalities change and at least on earth we know this for fact.
Besides, I don't want to live forever here or anywhere else. Logic says I will become bored that way. I can be a stern person that must argue as Galileo encouraged at times, for refinement. That heats people up and many times with shock value (it means I am kind of a prick but the chicks still like real men and wonder where they all went here in America). So I don't want to be the same thing next time!
I'll be honored to have some of my molecules in a pair of panties as long as it isn't one of those feminazis here in my country. Most of them were ugly bitches to begin with and age has just made them more bitter, vengeful for being an ugly bitch and more controlling being given full power to tax everything with a penis. They still do what the bankers tell them to though they just pretend they don't have to.
I don't go to church almost never anymore because the Pastor said Assemblies of God condemns all alcohol use. I guess drinking of wine was OK back in Christ's time though but not now. Those people with anxiety issues that haven't learned about chill pills yet - guess they all go to a hell for having a drink to chill. Hell, actually isn't referenced in the bible as the Catholic church states it is. The lake of fire is the second death - John stated it clearly in Revelations. It means you dont exist anymore. Read it on your own as this is a financial blog. I recommend the bible to read it on your own cover to cover. Then it makes sense.
Energy retains information so you in some way shape or form will be part of something else and that is physics, not religion. Though it seems yesterdays religion is becoming todays science. I don't feel like becoming a Muslim, Buddist, Christian, etc. etc. I will take what wisdom secular or religious scholars when it makes sense compared to other correlated information about cause and effect and discard the rest. Perhaps I can add value (at least try) or perhaps not in collective learning.
As for Muhammed and Islam, Kurt you are incorrect about the hospitality of Muslims. It is well known throughout the world there hospitality especially to strangers. Don't worry though, I got fooled into thinking that also, like hating the Russians or Chinese. It won't happen again and I won't choose sides of governments.
I am on the citizens side in all countries. Bankers suck at running countries but wonderful at skimming the wealth of nations and then outright looting them in the end. Bankers make loans, they don't know how to run shit. This model cannot continue whether some wish it or not. Governments right now sit below the financiers on a global scale, that may last for centuries but that also ends. This model WON by conquest the entire globe! But now like every other model of conquest cannot be sustained. At certain periods, "this time is different" becomes a reality to all investors and vested interests. I have been saying here for a few months on these geopolitical threads that the Internet is a giant mirror. We all now must look into it, American and Russian alike. Better that way, all of our shit stinks but we are quite an ingenious species too especially when we compete to build something of value everyone enjoys. Then we're unstoppable. But raiding like the Vikings is just that and this banking model reminds me a lot of the Vikings.
At the gym this morning I was watching a fox clip how smart phones are ushering in a new era of accountability. That is good, we should all be bowing to one another and show some respect in the first place. After this calamity however it concludes (I believe with a bang but not end of humanity) we can use those kinds of tools to keep the sociopaths out a little longer next time. I like watching the birds for evolutionary cycles especially the Blue Jays and Cardinals, one being a complete predator the other not and on defense. I would rather learn from them then from a preacher, imam, etc. etc.
My thoughts exactly.
I think modern genetics can answer your question. Its funny that many Palestinians are more "jewish" than most Israelis.
Genetics will not answer whether a person who adopts judaism is "racially jewish", like the Ashkenazi jews from Khazar. That is very much down to jewish people themselves. Or more accurately, the original jews from places like Palestine.
One way of identifying an Ashkenazi "racially jewish" person is whether they have the Tay-Sachs gene: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay%E2%80%93Sachs_disease
I agree with your comment about many Palestinians. And to an extent, since Middle Eastern jews were semites, the same goes for many other Arabs in that region. In the beginning they were all nomads and got along just fine. Later, some adopted Judaism, others adopted Islam. The splits and mutual hatred began.
There can now be peace between us. I don't hate the jews I just think their over represented, like on PBS and NPR. Klesmer? Oye! If they are or aren't undermining or stupifying my government, they certainly have found positions close to the seat of power... like in their history.
Everyone knows the Palestineans descend from the "Sea Peoples" of Ancient Egyptian times. That makes them Greek and North African.
They would have to be Semites for it to be antisemetic, most of them are just Khazar's satan chose as stand in cutouts to pave a path for him before he disposes of them.
Gengis Khan? Russian Slav have little mongol dna average...One region Russia has more Germanic type than average Germany.
Isn't these on talk show descended from turkish/mogols themselves?
In fact my understanding is that the ethnic Ukrainians have more Mongol blood in them than do ethnic Russians.
It's oftentimes better for me to cut and paste because I'm just learning about the situation, and some know a lot more than I do. From the link I posted earlier, it looks like what the West planned many years ago is bearing (evil) fruit:
Document:Battleground Ukraine
'... The main thing is that Brzezinski's words are not original. He is repeating the words of the German general Paul Rohrbach, who at the beginning of the 20th century foretold:
"To eliminate the danger that Europe, and above all Germany, faces from Russia, it is necessary to completely separate Ukrainian Russia from Muscovite Russia."
Notice that for the German general - Ukraine and Muscovy are both Russia. He is talking about the need to bring about an internal Russian split. That wasn't original from Rohrbach either. He is developing the idea of the German politicians from the end of the 19th century, including Bismarck, who proposed specific means to solve this problem. In particular he emphasized the need to pit Ukraine against Russia, to get their peoples fighting. But why? As he wrote:
"We must cultivate among the Ukrainians a people whose consciousness is altered to such an extent, that they begin to hate everything Russian."
Thus we are talking about a historical psy-op, an information-psychological sabotage, whose purpose is to establish russophobic Slavs - Orcs at the service of the western Saruman. They are the means to separate Ukraine from Russia and to oppose Russia as a kind of anti-Russian 'Rus', as a free, democratic Ukraine of the totalitarian empire. This was all devised under the Galician Project, on which the intelligence services of Austro-Germany and Kaiser German worked, followed by the intelligence service of the Third Reich, later - CIA and BND...'
+1 for the historical context.
perhaps modern times is nothing more than a simulcrum of a long litany of ancient grudges endlessly repeating themselves in real time across teevees and ipads worldwide.
Nazis considered themselves cousins to 'americans'
That Ukrainian guy is serious material for 'americanism'
He definitively has the genetic code for duplicity.
Does it match the genetic code purity for duplicity 'americans' do exhibit? That is another question.
That is where 'americans' have it always right: in this regard, they keep testing people for traits they do not have.
Id est, if this guy is interested in knowing what genetic code is appropriate to wallow in cheap propaganda, its own material is perfect for that.
The "American's", aka Bush, Ford, Heart, Harriman, ... Rockefeller, PAID for, created, financed and controlled the 3rd Reich from 1910 to 1945, and then operation-paperclip brought them all "HOME"
The Nazi's are as American as Apple Pie.
The term NWO promoted by BUSH Gulf War-1 was
HITLER's PLAN for NAZI win post WWII, BUSH/CLINTON have since implemented HITLERS plan's.
The entire BRUSSELS take-over of Financial EUROPE
was always the NAZI end-game, fitting that NAZI's are now "UKRAINE". By choice via TEL-AVIV we put the worst Nazi's in europe in charge of the UKRAINE(WESTERN) political machine, ..of course we do so to justify later taking them out.
Hell even SADDAM HUSSEIN placed by the USA in the
1950's, was running IRAQ under "NATIONAL SOCIALISM", aka NAZISM, per the CIA request to use IRAQ as LABORATORTY to test NAZI ideology in a controlled lab.
I see this as Putin's move to "test" the waters of global opinion to gauge the strength of the Russian position. The Russian Ukrainians are taking the offensive, likely at a speed faster than Putin et al wanted. The Russian Ukrainians are presenting a situation that is going to force Putin's hand at a future point. The strength of Putin's position will be in the reponse from those countries whom feel they are "non-aligned". As Putin is being pressured by the Russian Ukrainians, he in turn is putting into motion the machinery to pressure the "non-aligned" citizens of the world. If there is no Pro-Russian response from those non-aligned nation states, Putin knows he goes alone.
Honestly, there will be no response from the non-aligned nation states. Everyone needs the global liquidity provided by the USA. Germany needs its banking system intact.
The decks are being cleared and Putin will have no friends. Shortly, you will begin to hear Russian voices expressing discomfort at Putin's handling of the Ukrainian situation. The Russian Ukrainians will have crossed their logistical start line and will be placing demands of Putin to deliver. Putin will need to become ruthless. Voila, the global opinion of the fence sitters fall away from the Russian position, into the lap of the Western democracies.
China understands this and will wait this out. It does not matter what India thinks.
It's your interpretation, C-head. I think Putin's not to be pressured into anything. He simply has to wait till eastern Ukraine is cooked and ready to join the Russian Federation. He showed lots of restraint the other day and can afford all the patience of the world. In Donetsk province, they will hold a referendum on the subject of sedition from Ukraine on May 11th. When (not if) the majority has decided to switch sides Putin can pull a Crimea and that's it. More Russian-speaking provinces to follow suit, I expect.
It's a novel phenomenon and a shock to western statists, the people deciding on their future on their own without bought bureaucrats to interfere.
Who is going to pay their bills?
You're right! They don't have a magic want like the Fed does, to magic wealth from nothing and provide much the needed liquidity. They don't have an army of overfed trolls to surf t'internet for them either. Russians must be shitting themselves right now.
Well, in case of Crimea, one of the first things Putin did was giving everybody a raise. I think the Donetsk people are hoping for the same, all covered by Euroland's oil and gas duties.
As to the remaining part of Ukraine, I'm in no doubt YOU are one of the crowd who's going to pay their bills.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/imf-approves-loan-pay-ukraines-...
... He who makes the gold makes the rules...
'Americans' are schemers, they scheme all day long, all night long.
Scheming might be a professional job in an 'american' society.
For 'americans', the splitting of Ukraine is not an issue. On the very contrary, they've built their strategy on instilling an anti russian feeling.
If it ends with Ukraine losing territory, it is mission accomplished. Generational grudge seed planted.
As to the novel phenomenom, well, it is nothing new to 'americans'. They've been banking on it.
If there is no Pro-Russian response from those non-aligned nation states, Putin knows he goes alone.
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Isolated...
no chance this "analysis " holds up.
Putin's weakness is he can't see that free-thinking people read between the lines of his thinly vieled rhetoric.
Dude, reality check aisle one-
If you get even more uninformed, please let us know- again.
who's free and who can think?
Houston to Uranus, "Free thinking People?"
Carlin: We Love War!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&...
American mercenaries have been videotaped on youtube if that tape was still up.
I see no evidence Putin is wrong.
Obama and Kerry are in way over his head
Just in time for May Day.
It was so much easier to provoke a nation into war before the Internet.
Wasn't this whole thing over the no protest laws the Ukraine president signed into law? Come on, poor people don't deserve votes or the right to protest. Unless they buy gold first, then they can protest and have rights as well.
Wasn't this whole thing over the no protest laws the Ukraine president signed into law? Come on, poor people don't deserve votes or the right to protest. Unless they buy gold first, then they can protest and have rights as well.
The Americans have short term and long term problems:
First, elections are coming up in November. The "economy" is a dead loser for the democrats - they need distraction(s).
Second, the Russian and Chinese are working hard to displace the US Dollar as the World's exclusive currency. TPTB are doing whatever to thwart that objective.
The Germans and Japanese remain disarmed. Both Europe and Japan have horrible demographics and banking problems. Both are totally dependent on the financial chicanery of the US and the UK to keep their boats afloat. Someone else said it on ZH - I think the Americans and Brits would drag the entire world into a depression, rather than admit that their hegemony is broken.
Obama is in charge of the US forces and he cannot run in 2016.
Now what were you saying, again...?
Good God you are dense.
He is likely to be a contractor.
My Days Are Get - First off, finish the memo on your screen name please. Then all of you please read this quote:
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." - Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon learned that the hard way.
Consider this. The East was bad for 80 years. Then the last 30 they got funding from Western financiers and the citizens got poorer. Except the political operatives of the financiers. Who are the financiers? They own the Central Bank model which is headquarted in Basel Switzerland. Original funders go back three centuries, to the Rothschild family. Original investors of each national Central Bank that adopts one are never disclosed. So now the East is awsome and the West sucks. Oh except for Russia. They are savages too. Just like my American government called the Indians savages. Many people here are calling Americans fat savages.
If your starting to be called a savage by lots of media BEWARE. It means some banker at the top of the pyramid of monarchy intends to cause casualties to steal your shit. That is unless you pay a lot of attention and learn how to support the individual citizen rather than a specific government. The Russians and Americans are both called savages by a lot of media. But I see China is not, despite there special police literally whacking people in the mouth when they are trying to come together as a free country. Nope, they are not on banker casualty list, thats there new BABY. Isn't that cute? I guess we'll take back our 12 T dollar economy since you idjits can't seem to manage two areas on the globe at once without colonialism. Exchanging value too tough awww, that takes like several years or something!!!! sarc off
japan has the 5th largest army in the world(from memory, could be wrong). they will join the yuan. they already have yuan/yen trade agreements with china and china is their biggest trading partner. the problem is the japanese have a monkey on its back called the usa. they have been seeking freedom since hatoyama.
Japan and TAIWAN are USA colony's.
You MUST understand the DEEP hatred of JAP's by CHINESE.
Not a day goes by in CHINA where Chinese are not reminded of the "RAPE of NANJING".
When I take a bus on long trips in CHINA there are usually movies, and the movies are usually of prisons where women are held in Japanese concentration camps and "FUCKED TO DEATH". They usually die in weeks, the smart always 'SUICIDE' before they're taken to the 'comfort camps' and chained to a bed naked, and there they defecate unfed, while jap men line up to fuck them 24/7, until they die.
The Jap currency is strong, and the USA controls Japan and Taiwan, these two country's will be used by the USA to create a war to destroy CHINA, but the Chinese people would prefer all the Jap's dropped dead, and that all the people in Taiwan died and the Island returned to China.
Not a day goes by in CHINA where Chinese are not reminded of the "RAPE of NANJING".
intentional?
nothing like an external enemy to keep one's mind off of internal disease.
Wasn't this whole thing over the no protest laws the Ukraine president signed into law?
Come on, poor people don't deserve votes or the right to protest. Unless they buy gold first, then they can protest and have rights as well.
Putin: 'US Behind Ukraine Crisis From The Beginning...Now Leading It'
How's that for "de-escalation" hopes?...
Anyone up for some molatov cocktail entertainment in Washington D.C right about now? I've got a great location picked out on the North side of the U.S. Capitol...
Keep remembering that you are paying for all of it including WWIII!!!
Any volunteers????
The chicken Kremlin Princess nows crows at the dawn...hahahahahahahahahaha!
Put on your "blue helmet" NV Israeli Mossad/CIA have a job for you in the May elections...
Sure hope yuou took out an insurance policy for the "next of kin" cause I don't think you'll be coming back home in anything other than shoe box!
What crisis? Stocks are at all time highs!
Damn that Al Gore for inventing them there interwebs - now it is just so hard to run black ops like this.
'Americans' could not wish for a better opposition.
From the beginning, Putin has kept doing the moves 'americans' expected from him.
That protectionism story that has kept surfacing over and over again will need validation by action.
It will tell what game Putin is playing at the moment.
Because 'americans' have made it clear that they wanted to isolate Russia and once again, protectionism would be making the job of 'americans'.
If Putin continues that way, it will be clear that he prepares the surrender of Russia to 'americans' to 'american' terms. He would probably be unwilling to do it to Obama.
The next US president, a guy whose looks wont shock Putin might be a better choice.
The u.s. was behind libya, eqypt, syria, and the ukraine. maybe in cahoots with the Eu or not. The ukraine is important to the eu and russia. we are living in a bankrupt world, the nations are trying to find their position to survive what is to come. Can you blame any of them for trying to survive? No. But you can blame them for getting us into the mess to come. We can blame ourselves for the apathy that allowed this to be put in motion. We allowed the juveniles to run the world. Too bad for us. Too late probably also.
Ukrain? Aaaaand it's gone!
there running now. the weather in EU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIvoq2oZZuU
The neocons pushed for that coup d'état, thinking it would be a walk in the park. Turns out to be getting waist-deep in the doodoo patch.
Now, being caught in the doodoo patch, the only way out of their predicament is to throw a tantrum. They say, "since we couldn't get Ukraine, maybe we could get Russia?"
Merika Stronk!
Im a gambler, I dumped half my long gold and went into Gazprom, I put my money where Obama's mouth isn't, I figured there's an organized effort to crush Russia by cratering oil & gold, so they're dead for a year or two and what better place than the last place on the planet Obama wants you to invest?
....meanwhile at the fed they're buying Gazprom hand over fist with fiat as fast as they can
Edgar Cayce did say that out of Russia would come the next hope for the world, but any such investment is subject to the changes in the EM field as the cyclical cosmic convergence sets in with all the sinkholes, badass EQs, volcanoes, tsunamis, lightning, comets/fireballs or dragons as previous ancestors referred to them as they screamed through the skies on a more regular basis than they have in recent eons. The best investment is always in oneself and your self-conscious awareness of reality, which is much deeper than simple platititudes and hopes for a better tomorrow while silently supporting the usual suspects. When the ice age kicks in such as in "Day After Tomorrow", most of our societal institutions will crash as they always do and await the usual reboot which takes a few thousand years. There is a reason we don't remember how to build those stone pyramids, as their creators couldn't build them the way their ancestors used to... crystaline structure is always best... same as the planet's core.
All Putin and the Russian media need do is simply tell the truth.... as much as they can and as much as they know and let the winds of change take their toll as they are in Ukraine. We are tried to play the same pattern again as we had in the 90s in Russia under Yelstin... as we did in Russia with the Bolsheviks... as we did in Germany with the Nazis.... see the pattern? First the economic hitmen and then the jackals come out to play if a country's oligarchy is merely stupid and greedy.
'Muerica can't do that!
Tired of listening to one liar say to the liar - 'It is all your fault.' It is like listening to grade school children.
Zero Hedge, Czarina Vladima will not be offering you one of his glass slippers for all your supportive bullshit and lies. So give it up!
And if your precious Russia makes a move to further invade...BAAAAMMMM! NATO and Ukraine will annihilate Russian invading forces starting with the Russian air-force. And don't think that Russia will not, itself, lose that toe hold it has on the Baltic.
If WAR is advanced, Russia WILL lose that just as it will lose the Crimea.
Believe it!
lol.
Waooooo, for Ukrainian Junta Citizenism citizens, reality is fantasy.
As usual, too much to correct.
Damn....LOL.
You have a great career ahead of you in stand up....if you so choose.
How appropriate that someone posting under the name "novictim" appears to not be able to comprehend that EVERYONE WILL LOSE!
Everyone will be a victim! Even the few that may survive in underground bunkers will still have LOST! That is the basic problem with the international bankers dominating NATO counties deliberately pushing towards another world war, the weapons have become trillions of times more powerful than ever before in human history, and therefore, the international bankers' global agenda has become criminally insane! However, there appears nobody that is able to stop them, without, like Russia, seriously risking world war that almost nobody would survive!
Baghdad Bob lives?
Setting up for another bullshit war like WW1.
"The US Dollar is teetering on collapse friends."
Goldman and the rest of the banksters are well positioned for this.
ZUSSA - A Blight Unto The Nations
Psychopaths rule the world. Yesterday, today and tomorrow, simply because the majority of people are at best gullible idiots and at worst they don't give a shit as long as shit is happening to the other people.
Lately there has been an explosion of psychopaths / gullible idiots posting on ZH
The trend was clear a 1+ month ago, we all discussed Nuland and the $5 billion USD from LURCH/HILLARY to finance the neo-nazi's (TEL-AVIV) in UKRAINE to engineer a COUP, ...
Once the COUP went MSM, then 10 to 1 hoards now dump shit on ZH, in summary it appears that 'news' on ZH is only useful or interesting prior to the MSM picking up the story, by then the Trolls, Bot's, and Indian Call Center morons have their marching orders and 'talking points' and are sent out in mass to disrupt and mind-fuck good people. Probably the only think interesting in this "paid to troll" world of Unicorn's is that nobody is defending "Bath house Barry"
The fact that nobody defends Bathhouse pretty much tells us that all the PAID-TROLLS are running on the NEO-CON budget.
The Unicorns themselves are mostly right of center 'Paul Repuglicans', so they're pre wired to dislike bath-house.
The MSM blames PUTIN for UKRAINE, and PUTIN blames the western MSM, ... it's almost as if the NSA or USA(ISRAEL) doesn't exist.
Saudis parade nuclear missiles for the first time in defiance of US-Iranian nuclear accord
http://www.debka.com/article/23878/Saudis-parade-nuclear-missiles-for-the-first-time-in-defiance-of-US-Iranian-nuclear-accord
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Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams held in Jean McConville murder probehttp://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/sinn-fein-president-gerry-adams-held-in-jean-mcconville-murder-probe-30233962.html
http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/29746#.U2FhJVU-SxM.twitter
Saudi with Nukes, and the hypocrisy of an political arrest, I hope the Poodle Blair get's arrested for murdering millions of persian/arab children.
These two will not be touched by ZH, instead we will have Simon Black tell us what Steve Job's had for lunch
in 1972.
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ABC MEDIA mission statement is clear and direct, to cultivate moron's and to maximize their number.
It is almost as if events are being magnified to take the eyes of the American people off what is happening here at home. Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality. As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome.
The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia. It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. More about this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html
actually, don't you think what's happening in ukraine a live demo in revolution 101?
and, the rt channel pumps non-stop negativity about the state of american economy, politics, society, and culture.
methinks someone(s) want to push some american "inbreds" (h/t prains) over the edge to do something highly risky.
totally agreed, but then again,
payback's always a bitch, no?
Putin and the chinese are chess players, the US Bankster and their puppet politics are amateurs next to them.
Go Russia, go.
"unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleagues is working at full capacity."
No doubt, the bankster dominated NATO countries are full of mainstream morons watching their mass media misinform them about geopolitical events. (Even some Zero Hedge readers, who should know better, appear to still fail to understand that the fake "communism," that took over Russia during the 20th Century, was also another international bankster promoted event.)
The BASIC PROBLEM is the history of successfully backing up lies with violence throughout thousands of years of dominating civilizations, that has resulted in human beings collectively becoming criminally insane. Progress in science, which enabled technologies to become trillions of times more powerful, was primarily channeled through the social pyramid systems which were based on the history of successfully backing up lies with violence, which constantly worked all too well in each short-term increment, while society as a whole thereby became terminally sick and insane.
Putin is still over-simplifying the situation when he says that "the US" was behind this, since the USA has been covertly controlled by the international bankers for more than a Century. The BASIC PROBLEM is that our globalized civilization is controlled by the best organized gang of criminals, who have successfully applied the methods of organized crime to dominate the governments of NATO countries, and who are working towards attempting to consolidate their global hegemony, based on enforced frauds. Meanwhile, the overwhelming vast majority of the people who live in those NATO countries do not understand any of that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand.
In my opinion, civilization has become so totally dominated, through almost infinite tunnels of deceits and frauds, that the overall result is that civilization is going to flush itself down the toilet that it has thereby created. Civilizations have developed in ways which resolved their chronic political problems, which were always inherent in the nature of life, by doing that through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, to the degree that is now almost totally impossible for there to be any rational public debate about those problems.
The Ukrainian crises are merely more of the international bankers attempting to consolidate their control through the application of the methods of organized crime upon the political processes. There are many deeper levels of that to understand, while the vast majority of people are still stuck at the most superficial levels of believing the bullshit that their mass media are telling them, as "unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleagues is working at full capacity."
RM: There are plenty of people who claim that our governments, political ruling elites and the world are controlled by organised bankster crime syndicates.
You may be right. Unfortunately, I've never seen anyone explain exactly how this criminal control is applied and effected.
Wanna try??
Let's have some names.
Laughable request that is, ... RM like CogDis
seem's to have found a 'sweet spot' of longevity here on ZH, where you can ramble on for dozens of paragraphs, but
never offend or annoy anyone specifically.
RM is right to say the USD is MURDER, but he play's along as if the USD itself were in charge, ... the problem with your request, is that everytime and anytime we name name(s), on ZH that person, or the group participating in that ZH
"Honey Pot", are deleted, and/or Banned, very
quickly.
The name(s) have been named here 100's if not 1000's,
of times but the result is always the same, the namer's get banned, and the conversation goes back to /snide & /sarc, and 'sweet spot' where the tyler-unicorns seem most comfortable.
The honest answer to your question is that mentioning hte names drops the google rank's which means less nickels for TEAM-UNICORN, if this site contains these names for any length of time, then ZH would be completely drop off the google ranks altogether, something the UNICORN's watch very closely, ... hell even "RON PAUL" #5 anti-semite doesn't name names.
Everything is controlled, both sides of the debate are controlled.
In a perfect world we would name name's, decide action, and take care of business, but in the unicorn world for every step forward we take two steps back, so in the end you aer dumber for having ventured in the land of unicorn's than when you entered.
Yeah, james.connelly, I think you are correct that: "Everything is controlled, both sides of the debate are controlled."
I do not know what else to do about that than wait and watch as the degree of almost total control by lies backed by violence, maintaining attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance, becomes madly self-destructive.
The "sweet spot" is not so sweet, but rather quite bitterly sour, that the only two real "choices" are accomplish almost nothing, or make things get worse even faster, because the real world is controlled by lies, backed by violence, which system does not care about anything else than continuing to back up bigger lies with more violence. In that context, there is practically no meaningful role for more "truth," except if that "truth" is being used to become better at being dishonest and violence.
Hence, my opinion is that human civilization has become a runaway criminal insanity, and that there is nothinig we can actually do to stop that ... The Grand Canyon Paradox of progress in science and technology primarily being employed to become better at backing up lies with violence is getting worse at an exponentially accelerating rate, with not end in sight for how much worse that is going to get ...
The UNICORN "SWEET SPOT" that is preferred on ZH, is /sarc, /snide, and /stupid.
Adolescent in my humble opinion.
Play it safe and maximize google clicks,
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There is no doubt just like the UKRAINE story that ZH first OP-POSTS a serious issue and tell's the truth, and the few us who know the truth support. Then the story goes MSM main-stream, and then ZH starts posting the MSM version, and then 10-100X trolls his ZH to support the offical version and out-shout us with their bullshit, until eventually the majority UNICORN's no longer believe the TRUE version, but now support the NSA/CIA version of the story.
Take UKRAINE, we only a month ago 100% here concurring that KIEV was bought and paid for with USD $5B, and that HILLARY/LURCH place a NAZI-LIKUD NEO-ZIO group in Kievn to control UKRAINE, we all accepted that, now the MSM is telling the masses that the KIEV government has been in power all along, like as if they were elected (they were not), ... just like Palestine, where the ZIONists teach people that there never was a "palestine" it never existed,
Now we're told that UKRAINE was never RUSSIAN, that it was always PRO-USA/ISRAEL, ....
Ok, whatever, ... me thinks that the PTB that likes to use honey-pots like ZH to develop their debate for converting the minds, its easy reach the FSA on TV and feed them shit, then there are people on the internet that get both sides of the story, but then they send the TROLLS in here to convert everybody over to the MSM version of the story.
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Today we find out that the new UKRAINE government is sending weapons to SYRIA, ... imagine that? What else do you expect, .... just another way to disrupt and create civil war in EUROPE and destroy the EURO, destroy Russia, destroy CHINA, ... and keep the USD in power.
OK. I understand your points.
Perhaps what's more important to understand is not the names but the lines of communication between the elected criminals in government and the unelected criminals outside of government. Between them, they control and dominate whatever happens in the economy, society and geo-politically. The electorate never get a look in and yet they are supposed to be the supreme power. ho-ho.
Yes. Banksters are only one part There are many elements competing and cooperating with one another for the power to control the world. They cooperate when it is in their interest, and compete for power otherwise. At any rate fiat money will lose its power soon enough and so will they. Then the real fight will begin. People of good sense will gather and prosper and advance.
I agree, therevolutionwas, that: "banksters are only one part." Within the combined money/murder systems, it is fairly rational to comprehend how those who promote frauds become more wealthy, which enables them to promote more frauds. However, it is extremely difficult to comprehend those who are primarily in it for the murders. I tend to think that the "people of good sense" grossly underestimate the people who appear to participate in mass murders for their own sake.
Meanwhile, I think to think that the "real fight" never begins nor ends, but rather is perpetual, like the weather, which is often relatively calm, and sometimes extremely stormy. OBVIOUSLY, MY PRIMARY WORRY IS THAT MORE AND MORE ENERGY IS BEING PUMPED INTO THE ESTABLISHED MONEY/MURDER SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE THEREFORE HEADING TOWARDS SOCIAL STORMS FAR, FAR WORSE THAN ANYTHING BEFORE IN KNOWN HUMAN HISTORY!
My view is that everyone has their own habits, which have their own personal and historical sources, and that the ruling classes simply have their own habits, which do not have to be sane, but only were selected by their own history to become what they are now. Similarly, the vast majority of the people being ruled over have their own habits, which tend to include not understanding, and not wanting to understand the habits of the ruling classes.
Obviously, smacker, I know nothing first-hand, but only second, third, and more times removed. In my opinion, those who have the most wealth and power are those who have dominated the systems of organized lies, operating robberies that we call "civilization." Their list of names and organizations includes everyone, in direct proportion to how much wealth and power they have accumulated.
Meanwhile, there is nobody who can rationally dispute the central social FACT that private banks are making almost all of the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts. After spending enough time looking at the history of how that developed, especially within the USA, it is not too difficult to figure out what happened. (I believer that one of the best particular sources was historian Carroll Quigley, but there are many others, each of which assists with painting the big picture.) Anyway, my theoretical goal is to do what the banksters did better than they have done that before, NOT to stay on the same level as them.
My main concern is that the globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed by threat of the force of atomic bombs, are vno longer under human control. The ruling classes have simply become criminally insane, because their "success" was based on nothing but having been the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, in the past. These days, we are looking at runaway systems of computer/machines, in both the military and economic spheres, which are developing at exponential rates, while there are no human beings left who actually understand that enough to regulate and control those processes anymore.
The history of the ruling classes that made and maintained the current world systems has become like an interesting archeological examination, which may assist understanding the absurdities which exist now, but do not necessarily help much about what to do about those historical developed absurdities in the future. Moreover, given that the vast majority of people are political idiots, that still mostly believe in bullshit, there is nothing much which could actually be done, but wait and watch, as the current criminal insanities that control our civilization spin out of control faster. Most of the real future is going to be social storms blowing through, as the established system go through psychotic breakdowns, due to their own runaway madly self-destructive consequences. (Nothing I could say or do could stop that from happening anyway ...)
The ways that organized crime actually operates means that the real "names" of the people, within the organizations that most controlled the world, would necessarily be the most difficult to ferret out, while there would be level after level of false fronts, and puppets acting as their agents with public faces. Moreover, the masses of muppets are complicit, since they too operate within the same systems, regardless of the degree to which they are incompetent citizens, with respect to their participation.
My theoretical goals are better human ecologies, and industrial ecologies which could be integrated with sustainable natural ecologies. Those goals do not require blaming any little list of names, as if they were the only problems. The nature of life IS the problem, because there are necessarily chronic political problems which exist due to the nature of life. The fact that the ruling classes were the best at deceits and frauds was a necessarily manifesting facet of that problem.
I like to day dream that some of the members of the ruling classes are more likely to become more enlightened about their own longer term survival, than those that they rule over would be. I am interested in theoretically better SYSTEMATIC DEATH CONTROLS, not any old-fashioned silly ideas that killing some banksters would make things better, when that would actually make things worse.
Rather, in my view, EVERYONE IS ON THE "LIST OF NAMES," in direct proportion to how much wealth and power they command. There are no exceptions. Everyone is acting as an entropic pump. There are NO "good guys," only different kinds of "bad guys." Overall, the most important issues are whether or not we MIGHT become able to understand that enough to work through the problems that technologies which are trillions of times more powerful and capable are primarily being employed to continue to enforce frauds. The shot-term "successes" from enforcing fraud is the SOURCE of the longer-term problems we are facing!
Obviously, those who most participate in making "money" out of nothing, and backing that up, are those who most participate in the enforced frauds, whose "success" has driven civilization to become criminally insane. Understanding that better does NOT merely lead to any "list of names" of people to blame, except in the context that the entire structure of Neolithic Civilization is to blame. My idealized goals are to try to survive through to establish Translithic Civilizations, which could use the Neolithic Civilizations' systems as temporary centering platform to work upon, to go beyond ...
THE CRUCIAL ISSUES ARE THE PROGRESS IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, WHICH MADE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION POSSIBLE. THE BETTER SOLUTIONS ARE TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS, TO APPLY THE IDEAS OF AN INTELLECTUAL SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION THROUGH POLITICS, AND ESPECIALLY MILITARISM. ... However, at the present time, I can not imagine how civilization will survive enough to enable that to have time to happen ???
RM: Many thanks for that. I can certainly agree that we are being governed by criminals and many are insane. It is surely a sad day for mankind when the only people to vote for in elections are assorted criminals, liars, incompetents and freaks. All of whom have hidden agendas which are rarely in the "public or national interest". And yet, every government policy should have a demonstrable public interest.
I also tend to believe that those pulling the strings behind government are unelected power-brokers - MIC, banksters, so-called international institutions UN, IMF, BIS, WTO, WB, OECD and other big power brokers - and their relationships and control over the elected politicos are well hidden behind layers of obfuscation, so as not to scare the horses. In Hitler's Germany, he had henchmen sitting on the boards of the big industrialists to 'guide and direct' their R&D, capital spending and production etc. Nowadays it's far more sophisticated and well hidden and it's often the other way round, eg: banksters using the revolving door of government have the power/control. But the close corporatist relationships continue as they have for a long time.
Fwiw, I often said back in ~1984 "Fascism is on the rise again. Only this time the fascists won't be wearing military fatigues and goosestepping. They'll be wearing Armani suits and dining in the best restaurants." What I see happening in 2014 is exactly that.
Big structural changes are on the horizon and the current criminal ruling elites are well aware that they've been exposed for what they are. They are preparing accordingly. The coming strife will not be pleasant, but is necessary to clear the decks if we are to avoid becoming slaves...
...just my opinions...
Vlad's playing a game of pull back the curtain, so that most don't notice the curtain that remains closed behind him.
it's not a bad magic trick actually, but when it really get interesting is when the curtain behind the curtain gets pulled.
of course, some of us already (think we) know what's behind the curtain behind the curtain,
but maybe it will allow those who do a closer peek of the curtain behind that....which will most likely reveal...another curtain.
I am not a PUTIN fan boy, but if you think about it......all the shit he has done in his life......and he is still alive ?
Like him or not. He Is Badass.
Think about it.
The Elephant in the room has nothing to do with the fact that the US and Europe are behind the provocation in Ukraine.
Just like Libya had nothing to do with Syria.
Just like Israel has nothing to do with the USA.
Just like the USA has nothing to with Freedom.
Just like the USD has nothing to do with Gold or Silver.
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We have met the enemy and he is US, for 'cheap oil' the USA was used as a mercenary army by Zionists to Murder 100's of millions of people since late 1800's.
The MSM remains silent and plays along for 'treasure' the USA people play along for cheap-gas,... post peak-oil, the USA people will not even be given a carrot.
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Name(s)? Who are the Trillionaires? Funny in the MSM the world's richest people are mere billionaires who made their money the old fashion way,... but lurking in secret are the King-Makers.
Yeah, james.connelly, the cliche is "own nothing, but control everything." There are hundreds of foundations which are meddling in everything. A lot of those kinds of organizations were pumping money through the Ukrainian politics, to make what happened happen. However, I still think that even those who are the puppet string pullers, that practically control trillions, although that is not seen or reported upon, and may not even be possible to discover or demonstrate (although very probably still exists) actually control anything anymore. I repeat that my view is that civilization has been amplified by technologies which are trillions of times more powerful, so that not even the hidden trillionaire mass murderers really control things anymore.
MY VIEW IS THAT NEOLITHIC CIVILIZATION HAS FUNDAMENTALLY BECOME CRIMINALLY INSANE, IN WAYS WHICH ARE TOO INSANE FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER ANY SANITY WITHIN THAT SYSTEM. THE PARADOX OF SOCIAL "SUCCESS" THROUGH HAVING BEEN THE BEST AT BEING DISHONEST, AND BACKING THAT UP WITH VIOLENCE, HAS DRIVEN EVERYTHING TO BECOME TOO CRIMINALLY INSANE TO BE ABLE FOR THAT SYSTEM TO FIX ITSELF!
In that context, Putin is an interesting player, since he appears to me to be relatively sane, but that will not matter in the end, since the people he is playing against are too criminally insane to cope with. The outcome was already baked in the cake, when civilization was controlled by the people who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, while the technologies available to do that became trillions of times more powerful. THAT IS THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THE TRILLIONAIRE MASS MURDERERS ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE TRILLIONS OF TIMES MORE CRIMINALLY INSANE THAN CAN BE COMPREHENDED.
Earlier this month I downloaded all of the 'game of throwns' videos off pirate-bay, ... its been quite addictive,
In the 'GOT' everybody is bad, and everybody fucks his sister, and kills his parents, ... to care for the general population, well let's just say its like boy's playing with ant's.
The USA is of course no different, the USA we live in the game of thrones in 'real time', Hillary as the
EVIL-QUEEN, and by "HAMILTONIAN INTEREST", or
'stakeholding' every parasite has a vested interest
in perpetuating MURDER.
Has it always been this way? YES, will it always
be this way? YES
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Mass MURDER is expensive, I like the US system, lock them up in cages like rat's and let them infect each other with HIV. Then the 'trillionaires' have no blood on their hands.
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RM, there are no solutions, a man like you, should just live in a country where POT is legal and get HIGH, and listen to good music.
Where I live life is very good, and my only serious thought everyday is if I buy fresh fish, or eat pork with my veggies. I bake bread and cookies with my fresh coffee, I bailed from the USA over 30+ years ago.
"Tell the Truth and Run" - George Seldez 1930's
It's all the same, as its always been, just stay far away from the ASSHOLES.
case in point:
Obama gets advance copies of ‘Game of Thrones’http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/11/obama-gets-advance-copie...
the cliche is "own nothing, but control everything."
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That's probably the most important thing to understand about the USA, where OWNERSHIP, means they can take it from YOU, but if you dont' legally have paper rights, then they can't take it, ... funny how that is ....
Like 'owning' your home, ... no you fucking don't and when you OWN a home, it just put's your name on a list so the government can bill you for tax payments.
Gun's come to MIND, Gun's that the government doesn't know you have are yours, but GUN's that they know about, they can and will take from you anytime they wish.
Fuck "OWNERSHIP" and all USA bullshit,... if its a REGISTERED ASSET, you don't OWN it, it owns you.
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2014/03/lets-concede-deep-politics-is-too-deep.html
"'US Behind Ukraine Crisis From The Beginning...Now Leading It"
Desperation? Hubris? Both?
Republican's BLAME OBAMA for losing UKRAINE ..
Ok, its started I predicted this today, but now its in the MSM, yesterday DEBKA.COM told us that OBAMA wouldn't do shit, and today AIPAC is having the press rip a new asshole in OBAMA over him 'losing Ukraine'.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ukraine-president-police-control-u...