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On The Edge Of War: The Latest Russian And Ukraine Troop Movements

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If Putin needed a pretext to finally drive across the Ukraine border, he got it today following first the death of nearly 40 pro-Russian protesters in Odessa during a confrontation between pro-Russia and pro-Kiev forces, and then, what appears to be a storming in progress right now by the Ukraine national guard of yet another separatist-controlled city in east Ukraine: Kramatorsk.

According to RT, Ukraine’s National Guard is storming the eastern town of Kramatorsk even as it has also resumed its special operation in Slavyansk, where two soldiers have been killed.

“The assault is starting now,” a Kramatorsk self-defense activist has told RIA Novosti by phone. Another activist told the news agency that the National Guard opened fire on self-defense forces.

 

Dozens have been killed or injured in Kramatorsk, a doctor told RIA Novosti. The medic added that the fighting has now stopped and all of those injured have been taken to hospitals in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. At least two died on the way to the hospital, she said.

 

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian military’s special operation has resumed in the nearby town of Slavyansk. The headquarters of the people’s self-defense is under snipers’ fire, according to Itar-Tass. There are reports of injuries among protesters.

Recall that Putin has made it very clear that all the Kremlin needs to green light an operation in Ukraine is a pretext of "self-defense" for the pro-Russian citizens currently there being attacked by the local military, something which if the tables were turned, would have been classified as a civil war by the impartial western media.

So what does the theater of operations look like should Russia finally get involved?

The Washington Post is publishing a new map that shows, using information from the Royal United Services Institute, recent troop movements in the region. The graphic illustrates how military exercises conducted by Russia have left a big build-up of troops on Ukraine's border. It also shows Ukraine's own military moves to its borders with Russia and Moldova's Russian-dominated enclave, Transnistria.

It may be a long weekend.

 

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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:28 | 4722817 sushi
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I think the issue is a little different.

The problem with NG is that you need significant capital investment to move and store the stuff. When they first wildcatted in Pennsylvania they just dug earthen pits to hold the crude until they got a hold of enough old whiskey barrels to move the stuff to market by rail. Works OK for crude. Doesn't work at all for NG which just takes off into the atmosphere.

The result is that you could have a significant NG find in your backyard but if you are not adjacent to transport infrastructure then that gas is stranded gas. Building the necessary infrastruture is expensive. For smaller fields the capital investment compared to the productive life of the field renders the development uneconomic.

So Crash is correct in that Quatar is a major source of NG. I believe they have the world's large proven NG reserves at present. But having the NG means nothing if you lack the infrastruture to get it to market. Gas in Quatar - market in EU.

There was talk of running a pipeline north thrrough KSA, Syria, Turkey to the EU. Hence the reason for the conflict in Syria to topple the regime that stood in the way of this project. And also the reason Russia had a vested interest in propping up the Syrian regime. As along as Bashar al-Assad is in place then that pipeline is unlikely to get built and the Quatari NG does not make it to EU via pipeline which gives Russia a monopoly on the EU market.

But NG does not require pipelines to ship. You can create NGL processing units (called "trains") that take the gas and condense it into a liquid that can be transpoted by special ships able to maintain the cold liguid state. On arrival at destination the NGL is then sent ashore to another faciilty where it is re-gasified and then placed in storage for later delivery to customers via domestic pipeline.

Exxon has a major investment in NGL processing trains in Quatar. Given sufficent shipping capacity Exxon would profit if the EU sought to identify an alternate source to Russian NG. Shipping NGL from the US to EU would cost about $6 per mcf for a landed price of around $11 to $12 per mcf. I have no idea what the EU pays Russia for its gas but my bet is that it is less than that especially with Nordstream where the required pipeline infrastruture is already in place. Given the distance via ship transport I would expect the transport cost would be around $6 landed in the UK, perhaps half that if the NGL were landed in Italy.

I know the UK has been building facilities to land NGL due to the drop in domestic production from the North Sea. The UK is also tied into the continental pipeline system so NGL from Quatar could move by ship to the UK and from there into the pipeline system on the continent. I do not have details on French NG demand (they depend on a lot of nuke plants while Deutschland has closed its nuke plants in favour of alternatives). The major continental supplier is the Netherlands with the Groningen field but the Dutch are being careful with field production to ensure they do not damage the fields through over-production.

If Russia does move into Ukraine I wouldn't be suprised to see that followed by a western move on Syria / Iran. Russia gets entagled in its own backyard and while it is busy there the west rumbles Syria and takes out Iran. This would make Israel, KSA and Turkey very happy and allow Obummer to claim a strategic masterstroke. Then a pipeline gets built, Exxon makes lots of money, the Euros stay warm in winter, and everyone except the dead live happily ever after.

 

 

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:37 | 4723016 IronForge
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IIRC, Iran and Russia were also working on another Pipeline via IRQ, SYR, and TUR - which is what Mr. Assad has favored.  

Hence the UKR Conflict may have tie-ins with SYR's Situation.

It would appear that New American Century''s (and other Profiteers') Targets stopped falling like Dominoes; and we're being able to see how FUBAR'd their Deep Seated Greed runs in their Veins.

Has anyone considered Negotiating Deals?  Seems to me that if SYR had BOTH Systems in place, there wouldn't be much of a problem.  Too bad someone thought of Regime Change as a required element to Pipeline Laying...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:55 | 4722218 MEAN BUSINESS
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...If I were Putin, I'd bomb NATO to an endless winter night, starting the minute Angela gets back from DC. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:55 | 4722226 cjt
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Who cares.... Did you see tonight breaking news on CNN, Kim Kardashion got new shoes!!!!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:27 | 4721920 Squid Viscous
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Glad I am massively long for the weekend... Yellen Uber Alles!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:51 | 4721970 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Old yeller

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:51 | 4722020 Arius
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what does "yellen" means? think i know uber allen

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:27 | 4721926 10mm
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Please to meet you, hope you guess my name.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:32 | 4721942 john39
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victoria nuland? oh wait, that's just one  facade of many...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:49 | 4722390 NuckingFuts
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What's puzzulin' you is the nature of my game.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:27 | 4721927 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Barry and Lurch will save us...no worries my fellow serfs.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:36 | 4721961 kliguy38
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I've already enlisted and ready to go to the front of the line

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:39 | 4721973 Squid Viscous
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dont expect much from Kohn over the weekend it's gonna be nice weather for watching some lackeys sail his boat around the cape while he eats lobster tails

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:24 | 4722108 onthesquare
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Lurch has moved his interest to the south sudan and is talking peace with those folks.

What a fucking asshole.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:50 | 4722389 CrashisOptimistic
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He's working on alternative-to-Russia oil supply.  Sudan has a real problem hitting output targets.

The Russian snipers should get there to deal with any progress on oil output.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:30 | 4721938 chunga
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A lot more red arrows than blue.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:35 | 4721940 Ignatius
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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."  --  William Casey/CIA 1981

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:35 | 4722153 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

Too bad that whole internet thing happened.

"We'll know our disinformation program is completely obvious when the American public believes everything we say is false."
-- William Casey/Hell 2014

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:48 | 4722200 Ignatius
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"Too bad that whole internet thing happened."

This is our opportunity to peek up the skirt.

Note recent 'Net Neutrality' defeat.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:32 | 4721944 MillionDollarBoner_
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Its like a giant game of Risk.

Except its not a game...:O(

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:40 | 4721974 Bloody Muppet
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It is a game, only this one is played by sociopaths.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:49 | 4722006 kchrisc
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It is also a game of Monopoly being played by the banksters.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:33 | 4721946 stant
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When fighting on the great land mass tanks trumps jerks

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:36 | 4721960 john39
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obamao and his effete metrosexual goons intend to twitter the shit out the Russians all weekend.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:41 | 4721977 Squid Viscous
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lol... +1000 Carneys

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:45 | 4721991 stant
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As a southerner I get to laugh my ass off ,but for the nation I am shocked at the ineptitude.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:25 | 4722111 Wahooo
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He's tweeting hard and fast already. And manchella wants everyone to tweet a photo of their favorite college T-shirt to #reachhigher

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:09 | 4722270 Poundsand
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And with Kerry by his side, they can do it in French to make it even more realistic.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 14:19 | 4724118 mjcOH1
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"Run away!  Fuyez!!!!"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:54 | 4722025 Rough-Trader
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John, that just sums it up quite nicely!

Man I was laughing when I read that.

I am glad I'm short for the weekend, and now I'll have some "The Balvenie", doublewood 12-years aged Scottish single malt whisky matured in traditional whisky oak and sherry oak casks. :)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:03 | 4722037 Squid Viscous
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like your style but can't afford that stuff anymore after 4 years of trying to short this "market" ... if you're ever strapped try the smirnoff 100 proof rootbeer flavored vodka... no complaints

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:07 | 4722059 Winston Churchill
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Might be the time for a 'out of the money' bet.
Death by fire evokes emotions they may trump Putin's
sit, and wait strategy.
Condolences to the families of the dead.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:33 | 4721948 semperfi
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Could be a Rock-n-Roll weekend in U.S.  -  Earthquakes just might start up again - especially under L.A., WIPP, and Yellowstone

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:49 | 4721993 Squid Viscous
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is WIPP anywhere near N. Capitol St....20002 zip?... please?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:07 | 4722062 semperfi
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if we're lucky, and God's willing (He should be), the wind direction will be just right

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:22 | 4722102 Winston Churchill
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Take it or leave....False flag warning....
1.05tonnes of enriched uranium ,stolen from Pakistan, on its way to the US from a 'black' warehouse in the UK.
Payload split into three.
Motive unknown.
Just reporting it,don't shoot the messenger.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:27 | 4722118 john39
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here is the story on that.   wouldn't have believed it before, but these days....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/02/breaking-nuclear-alert/

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:36 | 4722154 Winston Churchill
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Confirmed from an English source separate from Duff.
I would never trust just him as a source on any story.
As you can identify the producer from the material,
blaming Pakistan would be perfect for a FF. Claim
they sold it to Iran.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:34 | 4721952 CannoncockerUSMC
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sailmeWkm_A

The armor rolls tonight......And it won't stop until it reaches the Carpathians.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:40 | 4721975 lakecity55
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"This is Edward R Murrow, live from London. Tonight, Russian Forces invaded along a 1000 kilometer front with airborne, marine landings, and armored cavalry. The Red Air Force has complete air superiority... The NAZI regime in Kiev is surrounded; pitched battles against NAZI forces are being fought as we speak....hold on, there is word now that the rebel government is surrendering to a Russian General in the field....."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:50 | 4722016 sushi
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And Obummer has just drafted a strongly worded twitter rebuke proclaiming a new red line just to the west of Ireland.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:51 | 4722396 Parrotile
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"US Special Forces have seized control over Wolf Rock lighthouse, and intend to use this as an Eastern Front Command outpost . . . . . ."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:58 | 4722125 lakecity55
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....so far, there is no response from the USG, a satellite regime controlled by Israel.......Walter Conkrite, what do you make of this?

"Ed, most Americans are unaware their government leaders have dual passports..."

"Meaning they are not exactly loyal to the United States...."

"Yes, ....and that's the way it is.....Friday, May second....

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:42 | 4721980 Xibalba
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krugman just wet his panties

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:44 | 4721987 22winmag
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Why would Putin shoot himself in the wallet?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:46 | 4721992 Tracerfan
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Pro-Kiev regime Maidanites burned 38 people to death, and laughed as they jumped from the bulding to their death, saying "Look, another bird wants to fly".  You have no idea the depravity we are dealing with, fully-supported by the US/EU/NATO.

There will be war.  US/EU started it.  Russia may finish it.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:54 | 4722027 kchrisc
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"You have no idea the depravity we are dealing with, fully-supported by the US/EU/NATO."

I am well informed on Waco, so I do have an idea.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:04 | 4722049 One of We
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It's fucking spring and all I want to do is plant my fucking garden, smoke some fucking fish and go for a walk on the fucking beach with my kids.  Pretty sure most Ukranian, Russian, Afgahn, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, Lybian, Chinese, and every other class of fucking father out there besides a tiny group of fucking vampires wants to do the same.  I just want these fuckers to leave us alone.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:05 | 4722050 trailsend
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That's a lot of fucking, Einstein. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:48 | 4722138 Arius
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cant blame the guy ...he wants to live on his dreams, please dont wake me up yet ... but isnt a bit too much calling him Einstein? 

i guess from your down arrows, and his up arrows there are plenty of them visiting this site ... i wonder why?  It might be just passing through .... i would expect them to be into some Glenn Beck or smt along these lines... yeah well, ZH is getting more popular or mainstream i suppose, and that is not good news ... got to stay away from consensus

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:22 | 4722314 Crawdaddy
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Glenn Beck is CIA all the way.

Factoid: All USA astronauts have been either Mormons or Freemasons, or both.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:21 | 4722097 Jendrzejczyk
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+10

 

They're calling it "fish" now?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:55 | 4722222 TheFourthStooge-ing
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They're calling it "fish" now?

Yeah, it seems every generation has their own slang. The other funny thing is the different brand names of rolling papers. Gone are the Zig-Zags, the Rizlas, and the EZ-Widers, and in their place are brands like NYTimes and Washington Post. The kids nowadays call them "fish wrappers".

"Hey, bro, got a fish wrap? I'll twist us up a Wall Street 'J' and we can have a good burn."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:39 | 4722167 Crawdaddy
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I just want these fuckers to leave us alone.

They won't.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:49 | 4722862 mumcard
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"Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:00 | 4722240 El Vaquero
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Fuckin' A!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:07 | 4722061 BKbroiler
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Pro-Kiev regime Maidanites burned 38 people to death

nevermind those "people" are paramilitary troops armed with missiles who took over a government office.  And yes, Russia will "finish it" by jumping headfirst into a military quagmire on their own border, quite the power move.

/sarc off

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:36 | 4722157 denverdolomte
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You should probably turn /sarc on.....just saying.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:57 | 4722414 Parrotile
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> There will be war.  US/EU started it.  Russia may finish it. <

IF this situation DOES devolve into a real war, rest assured that Russia WILL finish it, to Russia's advantage.

US / NATO - be VERY careful what you wish for. There may well be a significant gulf between what NATO Intelligence thinks / predicts Russian capabilities to be, and what Russia actually can do. World-class Chess players are pretty good at dis-information.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:47 | 4722001 ebworthen
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Go Vlad!

To Odessa!  Then Kiev!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:50 | 4722201 Infinite QE
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Then Brussels! Then DC to roust the source of the current Bolshevism.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:15 | 4722290 Bernoulli
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Please stop the warmongering, will you? Not so funny for European people actually...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:06 | 4722381 ebworthen
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What do you mean?  It's already happening.

There was a neo-Nazi putsch in Kiev. 

The elected government was overtrown in a violent coup.

Do you think the Russian Federation is going to go into Europe, or just reclaim it's territory (look up "Kiev" and "Chernobyl") and prevent it from becoming a missile base for NATO 500 miles from Moscow and 750 miles from St. Petersburg?

Blame the clueless warmongering U.S. Leadership and our warmongering MIC puppets on the right and the left.

Blame the clueless warmongering Europeans in Brussels and Warsaw and Paris and Berlin who seem not to have studied two pages of Russian history.

Jesus Christ, after what the rest of Europe did to Russia in the past 200 years?

PUH-LEASE!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:48 | 4722003 Tracerfan
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It is not is a "pretext of self-defense".  It is defense of innocent people targeted for death by Banderist Nazis.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:51 | 4722018 KarlGDenninger
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Kiev will smash the Russians. Many Ukraines still have the holodorom they will defend there country to the last. An Angel of the lord Biff appeared to me and said this would be russias vietnam

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:52 | 4722021 rtalcott
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Strong stuff you have there dude....

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:03 | 4722047 denverdolomte
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"Kiev will smash the Russians. Many Ukraines still have the holodorom they will defend there country to the last. An Angel of the lord Biff appeared to me and said this would be russias vietnam"

 

Where were you when the LSD kicked in? 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:07 | 4722055 Squid Viscous
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was that the same angel that said to buy Rimm/Bbry about 800% ago?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:22 | 4722101 pupdog1
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Try some Corn Flakes with your breakfast gin.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:29 | 4722126 Wahooo
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You must be smoking fish, too.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:45 | 4722189 Global Hunter
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It must be different from my fish because mine causes me to want all the muppets from east and west to realize we have more in common with each other than the rulers who govern us want us to believe.  They want us to fear each other but I see things from their point of view...man.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:53 | 4722213 Snidley Whipsnae
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"An Angel of the lord Biff appeared to me and said this would be russias vietnam"

Russia had a 'viet nam' ... it was Afganistan. 

No one has had much success there but lots have tried.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:12 | 4722282 Bernoulli
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What's wrong with you, sicko??

Didn't even wanna touch the red down arrow in your field man...

Get lost

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:21 | 4722469 Aussie V
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Biff??? I thought all angels were named Larry as God was a 'Stooges' Fan.

On second thought maybe Larry is God's first name??? I could be wrong though?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:58 | 4722563 Aussiekiwi
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This is what happens when you do too many drugs kiddies.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:51 | 4722019 IridiumRebel
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Whoa whoa whao....all fighting must be done during trading hours....THE POWER OF KERRY COMPELLS YOU!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:34 | 4722147 Crawdaddy
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Now thats funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:52 | 4722022 Yen Cross
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    Here's where true leaders show their worth. I'll bet Putin has already executed plans to withdraw just enough of his tactical team/indirect assets to make it plausible he's playing ball with ZERO.

    In reality he's reading his enemies, enemy and reloading, whilst checking his flanks.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:55 | 4722028 ShrNfr
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I am taking bets on which tee Obama will be on when the Russians invade. Anyone??

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:21 | 4722095 Seasmoke
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6th or 9th

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:31 | 4722133 Tenshin Headache
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19th

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:35 | 4722151 sushi
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The one with the rough where he dropped the nuclear launch codes.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:08 | 4722263 Pareto
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lying six in the bunker on hole 4

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 08:44 | 4723333 Squid Viscous
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Halfway house smoking a butt... and maybe enjoying a cigarette as well

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:56 | 4722031 marcusfenix
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and here I thought world war 3 was going to start in the MENA, maybe in a way it did, we will never know just how close we came to exactly that last summer.

still I suppose there is a certain poetic irony to it kicking off in earnest in Europe, right where the first two "wars to end all wars" started.

"shaping up to be a long weekend" maybe so, but lets just hope it's not shaping up to be a short year, at least for the world as we know it.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:00 | 4722038 Son of Captain Nemo
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Giving Putin and Russia every opportunity to recite the exact same words from the most important speech of his Presidency on December 8, 1941 -Aren't we????

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:13 | 4722073 lakecity55
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I have been watching the violence...I think Russia will soon have to intervene with full military force to stop the violence.

The regime overthrow has gotten completely out of control. If the USG can pummel Libya into dirt on the excuse of "R2P," Russia now has a direct humanitarian duty to intervene.

If it is true the west sponsored this overthrow of Yanukovich, their Leaders are now War Criminals.

Americans, Europeans, GET CONTROL of your governments!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:18 | 4722089 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Russia now has a direct humanitarian duty to intervene."...

You're damn right they do LC...

Just as every American man and woman especially the ones in uniform have a responsibility at the most critical time in our history to reach deep within their souls to ensure that they disobey the unlawful orders they are about to be given to start a reckless campaign they know they won't finish!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:19 | 4722093 Spastica Rex
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Americans, Europeans, GET CONTROL of your governments!

Great admonition, but let's be serious. No "middle class" consumer zombie in Europe or the US, or Canada, or Australia gives a shit, and won't until the stores close, the HVAC goes off, and/or the petrol pumps run dry.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:07 | 4722252 El Vaquero
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Or it becomes exceedingly clear to everybody with an IQ of 100 or above that we are a hair's breadth from having Russian MIRVs raining down upon us.  Because that would kind of result in the stores closing, the HVAC going off and the petrol pumps running dry.  And it might burn a tad too.

 

(The snark isn't directed at you.  Just at the stupidity of We the People for letting shit get this far in the first place.)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:05 | 4722254 Cycle
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Fnord!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:37 | 4722832 PeakOil
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Yeah still lotsa consumer zombies left in the NWO lemming states. Regulatory capture insidious & pervasive. And yet, despite all-encompassing MSM BS, more are aware than ever. The system will collapse under its own weight in due course. One well placed grain of sand will produce an avalanche.

Edit: Assuming the latest crop of psychopaths haven't run down the time remaining on the nuclear clock to nil.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:15 | 4722079 phat ho
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what will election look like in a couple weeks? definitely staying tuned

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:21 | 4722094 royal
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Here's hoping the entire Ukrainian army defects, and then unites with the Russians to get rid of these Kiev Yids, who are controlled by our Yids here in the USA.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:08 | 4722438 Parrotile
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A former now retired colleague (who resides in "the wealthy end" of Cherkassy) was quite excited by the imminent prospect of Military Conscription.

His view is that, of all the locals of "Conscription age", well past 80% would immediately defect to the Russian side should they be involved in any action.

If this statistic is reflected throughout Ukraine, "Conscription" might be an effective way of providing troops and materials to "The Invading Force"

Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot"!! 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:26 | 4722107 falak pema
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how sharp is that edge. Is it like Oxxam's razor? 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:33 | 4722142 Crawdaddy
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Occam's nail gun striking again.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:55 | 4722874 mumcard
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Careful, the trigger sticks sometimes.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:27 | 4722115 WMM II
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"Recall that Putin has made it very clear that all the Kremlin needs to green light an operation in Ukraine is a pretext of "self-defense" for the pro-Russian citizens currently there being attacked by the local military, something which if the tables were turned, would have been classified as a civil war by the impartial western media."

 

civil war?

oh, you mean like if the masked russian soldier invaders were being 'civil', like in crimea?

:)

 

p.s. please nimrods*, don't take that to mean...well...what you think it does.

 

*http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nimrod

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:44 | 4722187 denverdolomte
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Well Mr. Blatherskite (look it up if you don't know what it means)....Crimea? You mean that area that voted to annex itself back to Russia? How come you didn't bring up any of the US's secret involvement in this entire scandal? 

 

John Kerry is that you?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:55 | 4722220 WMM II
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gotta love the 97% votes... south american dictators were jealous....

of course with that large of a support, one can certainly see why foriegn masked armed invaders at the polling places were required.

and of course dolodildo-rod, nothin in what i wrote suggested that the u.s. of a. wasn't involved...

but hey, why do i waste my time tellin nimrods not to think like nimrods?

guess i should have started with the false flag for vietnam and gone from there.

 

:)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:19 | 4722464 denverdolomte
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"..hey, why do i waste my time tellin nimrods not to think like nimrods?"

Because you are an idiot more or less. You realize that the true definition of a nimrod isn't an insult right? Thank you for noticing that I am a skilled hunter hombre. Much obliged!

Dolodildo-rod? 

 

Seriously bring you "A" game the next time you are up for a round of interweb bashing, as this was weak and extremely uneducated in pretty much every single aspect.  

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 05:52 | 4723217 Flagit
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Dolomite?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 11:20 | 4723454 WMM II
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"You realize that the true definition of a nimrod isn't an insult right?" 

hence the link that it appears that you,dolo-bozetto, did not check out:

"Orginally from the Biblical Nimrod, a mighty hunter, it has come to mean socially inadequade.

Oh he's a real Nimrod, he steals the dried snot from under the science teachers desk."

change your original post any?

oh darn, arguing with a nimrod am i....

or apparently a group of them.

and:

"How come you didn't bring up any of the US's secret involvement in this entire scandal?"

'cause i limited my post to the irony of idea of 'civil war' when i stated in quotes 'civil war' in the start of my comment.

 

:)

 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:32 | 4722134 pupdog1
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Kerry is licking his enormous snout, and is fixing an extra large bowl of oats while watching the carnage from the State Department's sub-basement hegemony command post.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:09 | 4722268 El Vaquero
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And when Obama hits the first tee, Kerry will have his monthly botox appointment right after he is wormed. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:34 | 4722145 Aussie V
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It might be time for getting off these fucking computers and hit the streets. Seriously, what is now unfolding is going to be UGLY!
It is all the fault of these fucking US Politicians Obama, Kerry, Nuland. They have to meet some real people force at home where they live.

I'm hurting inside for the poor innocent people that are goining to be maimed or killed in this ridiculous 'game' being played out by a set of Sociopaths.

We can't wait for God to get his piece of rotting flesh from these parasites, they deserve to lose some in this realm.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:39 | 4723793 shovelhead
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What If god is not the all good creator like the PR says and he's really just a cosmic fat pimply kid who pulls the wings off flies and sets cats on fire for his amusement ? (metaphorically speaking, of course).

I'd venture the evidence favors the latter.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:39 | 4722164 The Fonz...befo...
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The are a lot of red lines on that map, I don't see Obamas red line...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:00 | 4722423 Crawdaddy
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It is the one in disapearing crayon

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:41 | 4722173 gnomon
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Putin is riding a nationalistic wave at home.  Even if he did not want to invade, he would have to.  Vlad can not stand by and pretend to wring his hands for too long.   The Russians will be clamoring for invasion. 

Putin has to get ahead of that wave of public sentiment to maximize the benefits of blowing through the border.  

And that wave of Russian sentiment for war could come as soon as tomorrow morning, Moscow Time.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:11 | 4722280 El Vaquero
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But he may let a few more atrocities happen, so that he can shove the video and pictures down Obama's throat when Obama throws his little temper tantrum.  It depends on how much he truly values Russian lives.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:06 | 4722584 lakecity55
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not many will be impressed by that skinny little faggot wringing his limp wrists.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:42 | 4722178 teslaberry
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+ 1 you think putin will go straight for the jugular and send a HUGE mass of troops and aircraft to kiev and just bomb the ever fucking shit out of it and get it back

- 1 you think putin is going to willing help the west turn ukraine into a syrian style waste land by engage in the long protracted conflict that is sure to turn the country to waste. 

 

or reply to this comment if you think neither------but you gotta say what will happen in your comment!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:52 | 4722208 gnomon
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Will "go for the jugular".  While reassembling Greater Russia Putin also wants to keep the destruction of valuable real estate to a minimum.  He knows there will be some upfront costs, but in the long term he comes out a winner.

Putin does not want to turn Ukraine into a Syrian hell-hole for both business and familial reasons.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:52 | 4722210 Aussie V
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You're right! Occupation is a trap for Putin. It drains his forces, costs him lots, International Govts' break off relations, sanctions etc. Maybe even an excuse for NATO to bomb him?

So, occupation of Ukraine or up to the Dneiper will have it's costs however, if he was to take Kiev whatever that takes, and call for the UN to send in Multinational Peacekeepers to hold a legitimate election, maybe he'd withdraw his troops and come out smelling like the only real leader in the world today?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:10 | 4722274 Snidley Whipsnae
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Aussie V... What the neo cons are trying to pull off... 

"What Vershbow has told the Russian government is that you just keep on relying on Western good will and reasonableness while we set up sufficient military forces to prevent Russia from coming to the aid of its oppressed citizens in Ukraine. Our demonization of Russia is working. It has made you (Putin) hesitant to act during the short period when you could preempt us and seize your former territories. By waiting you give us time to mass forces on your borders from the Baltic Sea to Central Asia. That will distract you and keep you from the Ukraine. The oppression we will inflict on your Russians in Ukraine will discredit you, and the NGOs we finance in the Russian Federation will appeal to nationalist sentiments and overthrow your government for failing to come to the aid of Russians and failing to protect Russia’s strategic interests."

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/02/washington-intends-russias-de...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:04 | 4722250 Crawdaddy
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Funny how these days, the war starts, sides are delineated into simple red team/blue team arguments (capitalists vs commie, christians vs muslims, etc), then the groups they are really after are targeted for extinction. This isn't something that is easily recognizable to anyone who is not a believer but it is true nonetheless.

My opinion - the east and west are playing out an agreement/outcome to destroy something/someone who stands in the way of the NWO. Who is targeted? I have no idea. But I'm willing to bet they are not on board with the NWO agenda, for whatever reason.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:00 | 4722882 mumcard
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Yep, they are always trying to consolidate their power.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:53 | 4723861 shovelhead
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Im going for a few more neo-nazi atrocities so the record is clear, but when they start destroying his future industrial real estate, the gloves will come off and it's bare-knuckle time.

So far, the Ukes are making it easy for him to do just that. Trapping and burning people to death is unacceptable sportsmanship in this game.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:55 | 4723862 shovelhead
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:59 | 4722236 Schmuck Raker
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I highly recommend this article from Harvard National Security Journal:

"National Security and Double Government" - Michael J. Glennon

http://harvardnsj.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Glennon-Final.pdf

Abstract
National security policy in the United States has remained largely constant
from the Bush Administration to the Obama Administration. This continuity
can be explained by the “double government” theory of 19th-century
scholar of the English Constitution Walter Bagehot. As applied to the
United States, Bagehot’s theory suggests that U.S. national security policy
is defined by the network of executive officials who manage the
departments and agencies responsible for protecting U.S. national security
and who, responding to structural incentives embedded in the U.S. political
system, operate largely removed from public view and from constitutional
constraints. The public believes that the constitutionally-established
institutions control national security policy, but that view is mistaken.
Judicial review is negligible; congressional oversight is dysfunctional; and
presidential control is nominal. Absent a more informed and engaged
electorate, little possibility exists for restoring accountability in the
formulation and execution of national security policy.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:10 | 4722276 Grouchy Marx
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From Harvard? Oh, then it must be unbiased and completely factual. 

As I recall, a disproportionate amount of our foreign policy has been formulated by Harvard alumni. 

Which explains a lot, really. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:30 | 4722339 Schmuck Raker
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I suggest you read it, Grouch.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:41 | 4722678 Grouchy Marx
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Here's the thing: Bagehot is correct; we've all seen it, in fact, it's true to greater or lesser extent under every form of government in every era.

Then, to extrapolate from that to say the national security policy has been the same under O as under W is incorrect, and I see it as a spin to make the current administration's policy look better than the unmitigated disaster it is.

 

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 01:33 | 4723068 Schmuck Raker
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Well,  at least you read it before commenting, this time, kudos, sir.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:00 | 4722238 cjt
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Who care about this.... Did you see tonight opening story on CNN? Kim Kardashion got new shoes, like OMG!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:53 | 4722546 Aussiekiwi
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Not enough detail to satisfy my curiosity, what type and coolor?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 01:35 | 4723076 Schmuck Raker
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Sorry, I DO CARE. And "No I do not wtach CNN. My Bad........."..."...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:01 | 4722243 Bernoulli
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No war!!! Stop it!!!

I really don't like what I see and I hate to imagine this was orchestrated... FOR WHAT EXACTLY AGAIN?!?!?

What a fucked up world :-(

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:40 | 4722368 Crawdaddy
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NWO is all. Iraq, Afghanistan. They last tried cranking it up in Syria. Didn't work so now it is Ukraine.

Background on Syria -> http://www.corbettreport.com/sibel-edmonds-explains-whos-at-the-top-of-t...

FF to 6 minutes

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:52 | 4722542 Aussiekiwi
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'I really don't like what I see and I hate to imagine this was orchestrated... FOR WHAT EXACTLY AGAIN?!?!?'

Money,power,greed,revenge.....the usual

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:01 | 4722886 mumcard
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Control.  It's always and only about control.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:38 | 4722359 El Vaquero
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Is it confirmed that is in Ukraine?  I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm just wondering.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:13 | 4722905 Setarcos
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No, just to border so far ,,, says so in the video.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 01:48 | 4723094 mc225
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recon? lots of armoured cars.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 08:29 | 4723313 Brit_Abroad
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That looked like the best part of a motorised rifle battalion and a heavy artillery battalion, if I'm not mistaken.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:10 | 4722273 news printer
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pushers get pushed

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:14 | 4722286 davidalan1
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The map resembled a chess board after a losing game with all the moves being laid out. I replaced the name "ukraine" with Obomo and Kerry...

Check mate in few moves

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:18 | 4722305 Hamudon
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look at this video from 24.02.2013.

http://vk.com/video-47267385_164854158

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:05 | 4722581 Jack Burton
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+1,000! Too funny. If Sweden has anything to fear, they should check out their unhappy immigrant communities. That is where Sweden is going to take it up the ass in a decade or so.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 06:07 | 4723226 aleph0
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LOL ..brilliant ...

... and dangerous if the Neocons edit the end away and use the rest for Propaganda

;-)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:26 | 4722327 observer007
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MERS deadly disease: First victim in US

 

Health officials have confirmed the first case in the United States of the deadly Middle East Respiratory Syndrome , a virulent and relatively new condition first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012. The unnamed healthcare worker arrived in Chicago about a…

Latest:

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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:41 | 4722370 kurt
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"...would have been classified as a civil war by the impartial western media."

Really, really?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:50 | 4722383 tony wilson
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some tings day never change even when we got a changable brown fella in the white housey

yahudi runs the puppet show.

 


 “Jewry wanted this war. Whether one looks to the plutocratic or the bolshevist side of the enemy camp, one sees Jews standing in the foreground as instigators, rabble-rousers and slave drivers. They organize the enemy’s war economy and encourage plans to exterminate and destroy the Axis powers. England and the USA recruit from among them bloodthirsty and vengeful agitators and political lunatics, and they are the source of the terror commissars of the GPU. They are the mortar that holds the enemy coalition together.

 

 

Joseph Goebbels

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:01 | 4722573 lakecity55
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JUSA!
JUSA
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