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President Obama To Explain How You Can Keep Your Veteran Affairs Scandal - Live Feed
Following the ongoing uncovering of increasing issues at the Department of Veterans Affairs - after reports surfaced a month ago detailing patients dying while waiting for treatment in a Phoenix VA facility - it appears its time for the teleprompter-in-chief to smooth things over, start a probe, and put everyone straight on who is to blame for the disgusting treatment of US veterans... Perhaps - as we noted here - it is worth remember the 'full price' of war.
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How is this any different from how anything else is managed under ANY prez....SSDD.
Remember the Walter Reed problems...
Obama speaks... I read it in the Papers like everyone else. I'm madder than heck over this. I've signed a new law that gives... Free arms and legs for those who've waited longer than a year. Free grave flowers who's families are still alive. No questions, I have a T time in 25 minutes.
...No disrespect intended to Veterans.
*Slapdick-in-chief
FTFY
Welcome to Obamacare. This happens all the time in the "free" Canadian and European single payer health care system
Ya know.......
There's a crap load of baby boomers they're gonna have to smother under a pillow!
If you asphyxiate them early, you don't have these problems later on, just make sure cremation is the only choice, gotta save on space at the landfill......er, graveyard.
wow King O was only 12 minutes late this time !! DOUCHE
Maybe they can issue a recall under obamacare and have people recyled into donor organs.
The only respect, and support we can show for Veterans, is to NOT create more of them. All this other horseshit is a distraction.
Hear! No more red blooded american lives sacrificed for the interests of israel, not ONE
Correct..
Keep in mind the millions in corrective action taken because of that scandal, only to drift back to SSDD.
But what the hey it will provide great sound-bites, and O's trademark genuine sounding concern, hell I bet they are loading the bus with the back-drop Vets as we speak...
What a crime
I bet he'll even take a dig a the Russians while there
Dozens of sick veterans...
4 Dead in Benghazi
3 IRS Contempt of Congress
2 Border Agents killed
And a health plan you can keep.
Sounds like a Christmas carol
SSDD... It's time for me to drop out again. I'm too disgusted. Why can't this veteran stuff ever get fixed? Every 4 to 6 years, seemingly coinciding with midterm elections. Never fails.
Yep, off to the farm with me. I need some R&R. I can't read this crap anymore!
Why can't this veteran stuff ever get fixed?
Because after they get shot up, they have no more value. THAT is how overlords think.
They've been screwing vets for a LONG time. It never changes.
.... Phoenix VA Hospital quality care coming to a neighborhood near you soon thanks to the corrupt, arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien mulsim sociopathic liar in chief's mandated bureaucratic death panel health care reboot..... BTW all you who voted for the liar in chief, how do you all like your health care premiums and deductibles now?
Is it just another sign that the US is going down the tubes??? We can't even afford to take care of the people who put themseles in harm's way because others hated our freedoms.
The incompetent fool back on the stage to lie to the public once again!
Why do they have to "take care of veterans" anyway?
Other government employees don't get special hospitals, pensions, housing allowances...
Yep. That IRS lackie is the same as a soldier. We, as a people send young Americans to fight, get their legs blown off and we owe them nothing.
They CHOSE to take the job. Take the salary. Work to defend this government. There are understood dangers with that kind of employment.
You're a scumbag.
I dunno. I think it should serve as a real eye-opener to any who is thinking of joining the US mercenary forces.
Why do yo think Obummer is allowing this to take place? He says he is going to fix it. He has said he would deal with the economy for 5 years and what?...the middle class is getting wiped out. He said we could keep our healthplans and our premiums would go down $2600 per family...his admin is purposefully hiding info about what happend in Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Fast and Furious.
Tell me one thing that this administration has successfully acheived where they bent the social welfare curve so that the masses were better off? They haven't! Even Obummercare has been a disaster from a cost standpoint, why else would they need to backstop it with social assets (tax dollars)?
What a fucking disaster this guy is.
I second that
All we be forgiven if you retrofit a sarc tag to your ealier posts.
Supporting injured vets is one of the areas where I enjoy paying taxes.
I'd sure feel better about paying taxes to take of of veterans if they had actually defended our freedoms. Our freedoms diminish by the day, and no one in the US mercenary forces does shit about it. Instead, they go and fight for the banks, oil companies, shitbag politicians, and MIC fatcats.
When is the military going to defend our freedom? When are they going to go arrest O'bomb-a, and his entire adminstration, all of Congress, all of the Supremes, every head of every Federal agency, and try them and hang them for treason? And then hold new elections.
Once that happens, you best believe I'll be thanking a vet for my freedom. 'Til then......
I hate people who abuse dogs...and I never blame the dog for bad behaviour.
Every once in awhile abused dogs turn around and bite the nutsack of their abusers.
We shall see.
They also understood that the VA would be there to care for them if they came to harm. Take away that safety net and see how long it takes before we're in a draft again.
You know I was preparing a comment attempting to make you see how your reasoning is faulty but I decided it was a waste of time. People like you are why the rest of us should give up.
They are not in a gov employees union either, they had better pray they don't form one.
Part of taking a soldiering job is a reasonable expectation of health care, in case a leg is blown off. A deal is a deal.
the govt is fucking the poor chaps over, ie reneging on a deal. Actually, they are conspiring to have them die. Tell me how anyone agrees to enter the armed forces without assurance of follow up health care in the event of grave injury.
I grew up in the early '60s under the flag waving, US fought Hitler and won meme. That was a great thing, and still is. I wondered if I would have the courage to join the military and fight if necessary when I came of age. I always thought it was the responsible thing to do.
I missed having to register for the draft by a year post Viet Nam. By then I was very unsure of the wisdom of entering the military. For what would we be fighting in the large? In the small, I expected the government to prosecute the war effectively, not use the soldiers as pawns.
Looking at the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan, my cynicism is nearly complete. Throw in this vererans scandal and what more needs to be said?
I would readily follow my Congressman, Chris van Hollen, and his sidekick, Nancy Pelosi, into battle. Rest assured that I would never see the inside of a MASH tent much less a VA hospital. (Chris and Nancy both ardently support ObamaCare, but they and their staff don't participate in it.)
I would say that it is a valid point. They are an all volunteer military. There is no draft. If there was a draft I think it would be owed, as the choice to join would have been taken away. Now as it is, VA is a benefit for soldiers. I still think there should be a VA providing the services because of the unique injuries that soldiers have, but I certainly don't think it should be looked at as "being owed" for those who chose to enlist.
For those drafted I absolutely say it is owed to them, as they did not have the choice to sign up. For those who willingly signed up, it is a problem of shitty benefits.
And I think you are confusing the government for the people. The government certainly doesn't work for me. They work for themselves and those who own them and it is not me.
pods
I agree with what you say, except that...Are you seriously trying to imply that military employees "work for the people"??
GOVERNMENT. Government sets the agenda. Government hires, is in control, forcibly taxes and creates "enemies"...
Absolutely not. Thougt my last sentence made that clear?
pods
Upon enlisting/entering a contract to serve these benefits are included, i hope your not suggesting they take out a medical plan to cover battle-wounds, PTSS etc.
Of all the money we piss away say on just the interest on US dept. these guys don't deserve their contractural dues?
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/militarypay/u/pay_and_benefits.htm
Like I said, it is a question of shitty benefits.
Not being "owed" for some higher calling.
pods
All veterans are owed medical treatment for life because that's what US gov agreed to. It's a perk of shitty military pay, regardless of whether one volunteered or was drafted.
That is correct. It was, and is, a contract. I replied to a post where an emotional argument was made about the hazards of being a soldier. Because the profession they chose is a dangerous one there should be some moral responsibility is hogwash. Unless they were drafted against their will, it was, and is, a contract.
Listen to any and all arguments about this subject on the radio, all of these arugments are emotionally based.
This fact that this country is as fucked up as it is in great part to people trying to think with their hearts.
pods
The same people that are stupid enough to enlist today in Israel's US funded protection forces are the same people that are stupid enough to believe the US government would ever keep its promises.
Display your low IQ by enlisting, you get everything that's coming for you. Today's military are just the armed members of the Free Shit Army.
We, as a people send young Americans to fight
I appreciate your post, dock, but the American people seldom even understand the reasons for fighting. It's all bullshit, solely designed for the purpose of garnering their agreement... or at least their acquiescence.
And, of course, lots of us consider the MIC a blood-drinking monster.
Wow what an insensitive thing to say..
douch-bag
Other government employees don't get their legs blown up by IEDs and see large numbers of their co-workers killed and maimed on the job
If only.
Two words reduced me to laughter.
Why do we have to "take care of retired senators" anyway?
+1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpaOy8b8X6A
The same "contractual obligations" a previous commenter mentioned re: military employees.
Is that you Xeno?
ALL senators retire millionaires, MILLIONAIRES who still get pensions, FREE healthcare for LIFE, and what ever they handled for themselves before they deployed that golden parachute..
US military personel? hardly middle-class.
But your right a contract is a contract, (Is there a waiting period for executive branch types for organs? Dick Cheney says no...) let them wait in line with the rest of them at the .Gov VA
I'm not sure I'd be pointing out the VA as "special hospitals" as some form of a benefit at this point. More like a death sentence.
Plus, veterans don't get housing allowances, and government employees certainly get pensions. Current military get BAH (if that was what you were referring to). "Civil servants" get not only matching 401K contributions, but are vested for some level of a retirement pension after 5-years (starts at 1% and grows every year up to 35 years), vice 20 for the military. Federal employees in the Beltway even get a 20% "locality pay" bonus.
Now that I think about it, move 90% of gov agencies around the country in different mid-sized cities and immediatly save at least 20%! Probably more in terms of cheaper real estate for the workspaces.
This is one hypocrisy that those corporate puppets in D.C. better pay attention to.
A bullet to the head from 500 yards is very "doable" for many of the vets I know.
That's precisely why all of us vets are now considered "terrorists."
Precisely!
here we go again; 10:45.. CPT
"if you like your scandals, you can keep your scandals".
worst prez ever
Don't bother concentrating on him and making him the object of all your loathing. Ignore him. He is only the Voice of Sauron, the display meant to focus your hatred and distract your attention.
Yeah, we know. All veterans should be shot in the head.
Thanks, Barry..
http://www.prisonplanet.com/exclusive-whistleblower-reveals-new-va-scand...
Where's the book on how late he's going to be?
DavidC
Would be better if he never showed up.
Would be better if he never showed up.
Amen to that!
'I blame Boooosh! George Booooosh!' I wish someone would throw a fucking shoe at Barry's huge melon.
You are right on the money. The Community Organizer in Chief will hit the following talking points during his address;
Essintially that is the Community Organizers boilerplate speech for all issues both foreign and domestic. Just remove the topic of the day, this time it is Veterans healthcare, and insert your choice of issues such as National Debt, IRS holding conservatives to a different standard than liberals, Benghazi, NSA spying, failure of the Obamacare roll out, etc. What an ass hat this guy is.
No Czar? Or is it Tsar?
Its 10:54 AM, do you know where your President is?
The line between serious governence and a Saturday Night Live sketch continues to blur...
Let me guess... he didn't know about it until he heard about it from the press.
That's true. Talking on the golf course is forbidden.
Look, we have three jesters warming up the audience.
Here's an hour long Jeopardy theme song to listen while you're waiting:
http://youtu.be/rTyN-vvFIkE
The guy sounds like a father scolding his children. What a hypocrit. Hurts my ears to listen to him.
A deadbeat father who doesn't work, doesn't know anything about their needs, and doesn't pay to support them.
More lies and bullshit. Or is it bullshit and lies?!
"For those that think that government can or should do good, they should visit a prison or vet hospital first."
Punishable by my ACA death panels.
You know how I know he is lying? His lips move.
snarc: Isn't this bush's fault? bush started the wars.
Hey look....Obama is lying again....he is talking...
If the prez had heard about this, and he did; it would have been tru his caddy!
Here is a summary of the problem:
The current scandal developed after a series of exposures made by present and former employees of the VA detailed the procedure by which the department denies healthcare to veterans and then covers-up these actions by means of a complex book-cooking scheme.
On April 30, Dr. Sam Foote, a retired doctor at the Phoenix VA medical center, revealed the existence of a “scheme” which was “deliberately put in place to avoid the VA’s own internal rules.” In an interview with CNN, Foote explained that VA administrators “developed the secret waiting list” that is used by the VA to cover up for the fact that roughly 40 veterans have died after waiting for treatment for months or years.
In the following weeks, further whistle-blowers from medical centers in Texas and Colorado stepped forward and made similar allegations regarding VA wrongdoing.
According to an April 2010 memorandum filed by lower-level VA officials to their higher-ups, practices employed by the agency include:
* canceling appointments when patients do not check-in 15 minutes early and thereby forcing patients who show up on-time or minutes early to reschedule appointments for weeks in the future.
* sending confirmation emails to patients, and if the patient does not respond, the VA “reserves the right” to cancel the appointment.
* scheduling patient appointments, canceling them, and entering the appointment into records as “cancelled by patient” instead of “cancelled by clinic” so that patients are sent to the bottom of the waitlist instead of being given preferential treatment.
* scheduling appointments with patients during times that the patients have stated they are unavailable, thereby forcing the patients to cancel and moving them to the back of the waiting list.
* scheduling appointments for a patient without notifying them and thereby “creat[ing] a very high likelihood that the patient will no-show which allows for another rebooking with a restarted wait time.”
* canceling and then re-establishing appointments on the same day in order to give the appearance that the patient’s wait time is minimal.
On top of the complex schedule-manipulation tactics, the VA also falls back on a more simple method for covering-up treatment denial. Dr. Katherine Mitchell, a VA doctor, recently disclosed that VA officials were caught shredding documents that detail wrongdoing.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/05/19/vets-m19.html
Goverment Health Care means subpar care.
"We are gonna fix this." Just like we fixed Obamacare.
Lying sack of excrement.
Sign up onto my Healthcare exchange website..
It is just a scheduling issue.
What he doesn't get is this is not about him. He spent the opening of his statement talking about himself,his attitude toward the issue as commander in chief and how much he cares. I know he is cif, but I don't care he is upset. How many times does he have to remind us he is cif??? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS??? More CIF BS.
He should have said, "I love my subjects. Pulllllll!"
1. Taking it seriously
2. Consequences
3. We care
4. We still have work to do
This guy couldn't run a lemonade stand. Hey bomber, cut the $100MM Moochelle vacations
Wow...he's mad. I've never seen him this concerned. He'll certainly hold those "folks" accountable for falisfying reports and collecting bonuses.
I don't think my definition of "accountable" and his definition mean the same thing.
Rick just decided to sack himself.. Fuck you Obama!
I'm tellin ya, this is a MAJOR indication of how americans will be treated when our society falls apart and fema guys with guns start rounding folks up. Think about it. They connived to let these poor vets die rather than deal responsibly with em.
Anyone morbidly obese, disabled, ie the physical dregs of society and anyone perceived to be a 'problem' for authorities will be the first to go. A big purge is a'comin. I will be ass raped and shot in the head first night in camp. Better find me a good hidey hole somewheres, and soon.
Wow, he just drew a red line around the VA.
How about just giving vouchers to Veterans so that they can go out and get the healthcare services they need from the private sector?
Too costly. The VA is out to save money caring for these guys, which was the entire point of the scheme
Too costly? This administration is bending the cost curve down and saving families an average $2,500 every year...
Want this problem fixed tomorrow...just throw all members of congress into the VA healthcare system.
You want people coming forward if there is a problem? I'll bet you Snowden would have a different response.
How about clawing back those bonuses and proscuting the recipients for fraud?
Oh, you mean like they did for Wall Street after the economic crisis? /sarc
Problems can be fixed when you have unlimited taxpayer resources. Assclown!
Folks Folks Folks, we have a SCUMBAG in the Whitehouse Folks...
Sorry, Tylers, I simply cannot watch Barack Obama without puking. I've been turning him off immediately for the last 6 years.
President Camacho....shits bad
President Camacho beats the current POTUS in so many ways:
1) Camacho can kick ass.
2) Camacho is willing to admit when shit is bad.
3) Camacho is willing to hire the SMARTEST guy on the planet when something needs fixing.
4) If he hires you and you fuck up, you will be rehabilitated.
~Idiocracy II: Reverend Upgrayedd's Ministries
President lying hypocrit opens his cocksucker once again.
It's pretty amazing, it looks like he went out completely unprepared to simply bullshit his way out of the situation.
He no longer even pretends that he gives a shit. He figures he has earned his legacy and when he is out of office he will give million-dollar speeches to the Wall Streeters and the National Security crowd.
....then off golfing with the Special Service bodyguard team in attendance.
What legacy would that be, worst president ever?
If only these vets had been waiting online to sign up for BarryCare.
Countdown to "It's Bush's fault!", 5...4...3...
The only positive about this story is the hope that innocent younsters get the message NOT to join the military.
Washington D.C. shouldn't be allowed to have a president when the United States of America doesn't have one.
Somebody call the police. There's a man pretending to be the president. He's been spotted out on th estreet somewhere near the White House, a Clappering and a Yellen while Holdering his Bernanke.
You guys are jumping down his throat so quick.. Did anyone even listen to him?!
He didn't know about this until last night when he was watching the Evening News with Brian Williams. He said he was mad and would get to the bottom of it.
Geeze. Bunch of racists..
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Government is cutting benefits across the board. Most are not announced. The military budget is also being cut this will continue to be bad news for veterans.
The US is no longer the worlds policeman. That comes par for the course of being the reserve currency peg nation with China just recently geting the baton according to the IMF.
Also, see China about to invade Vietnam for attempting to disrupt the drilling offshore. They are now actively assuming the role.
This happened in 1932 in the UK when the peg was passed to the US. UK cut its military very sharply particularly the royal navy.
Simple solution: Don't pick up a gun for tyrants. Easy.
If you dislike the government, why would you support someone who does its dirty work?
Let them die. Maybe people will quit joining.