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European Voters Are Revolting; France Warns "Situation Is Grave For Europe"
Just as we had warned in the run-up to the European elections - and England's UKIP victory in local elections had suggested; Anti-European-Union parties are showing strongly in this weekend's elections. Anxiety is spreading among the status quo as Greece's anti-austerity party SYRIZA wins and perhaps even more worryingly in supposed core of the union France's Nationalist party is leading in a "political earthquake" success:
- EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS MUST RESPOND TO CITIZENS' ANGER: VALLS
- FRANCE'S VALLS SAYS 'SITUATION IS GRAVE FOR FRANCE, EUROPE'
- DRAGHI SAYS PEOPLE VOTING ACROSS EUROPE ARE CLEARLY DISENGAGED
Disengaged? - or totally pissed off with promises that never materialize and wealth that only trickles down to the uber-richest and uber-elitest.
No wonder France is worried...
#France - Ipsos seat projection: Front National 23-25 seats, UMP 18-21, Socialist Party 13, UDI/MoDem 6-8. #EP2014 pic.twitter.com/Md0BX39jFS
— Open Europe (@OpenEurope) May 25, 2014
Anti-establishment parties were gaining ground in other parts of the EU too (following UKIP's lead in the UK).
In France, exit polls setting the anti-immigrant, far right National Front up for its first success in a national election.
In Greece, exit polls had the far-left SYRIZA party leading with 26-30 per cent of the vote, ahead of the ruling conservative New Democracy Party. SYRIZA, whose leader, Alexis Tsipras, is running for European Commission president, has campaigned vociferously against the austerity that was part of the EU's response to its economic crisis.
In Austria, the right-wing FPOe came in third with 20 per cent, while the anti-immigrant Danish People's Party was set to take the biggest share of the vote in that Nordic country, according to exit polls and initial projections.
In Finland, the anti-immigrant True Finns party was projected to win two of the country's 13 seats in the European Parliament, adding one seat to its previous tally.
In Germany, the far-right National Democratic Party - which has many overtly neo-Nazi supporters - could be on course to win its first seat in the legislature, according to projections. Germany's anti-euro Alternative fuer Deutschland (AfD) is also set to make its debut in the parliament after capturing 6.5 per cent of the German vote, a public television exit poll showed.
In Belgium: *FLEMISH NATIONALISTS LEAD IN BELGIAN ELECTION, 1ST RESULTS SHOW
But it's not just France, Anti-EU parties are winning across Europe...
h/t @WikiGuido
Who coulda seen that coming?
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And so the propoganda begins...
- DRAGHI SAYS PEOPLE VOTING ACROSS EUROPE ARE CLEARLY DISENGAGED
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS EU VOTE SHOWS 'WE CAN KEEP WORKING' ON EUROPE
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS SUPPORT FOR ANTI-EURO PARTY DIDN'T INCREASE
Umm - yeah it did... but when it gets serious - you have to lie!!!
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At least they actually get to vote on something that resembles reality, unlike the same flavor-different wrappers we get
We have choices. We are just too lazy to use them.
I guess they'd better impose sanction on their own poeple. It has more chance of working than on Russia. LOL.
At least Europeans have more than two choices like in the USA (which is really one choice or no choice)
There are many choices.
Just don't expect to be spoon-fed from MSM.
In the UK, no party has ever won a major general election outside of Labour / Conservative for a long long time. There is only one party here, The War Party.
Look, I can understand Gaddafi or the Sultan of Brunei having a few migs or f-16's to impress people. (They got the dough).But some place like Greece,hopelessly corrupt and mismanaged,buying Diesel Subs off the Germans on the hire-purchase plan....That is something else.They simply don't have the cash,would have to borrow the money from the Deutsch Bank.
Some wag talking about the practicality of the military equipment: "You can do almost anything with bayonets except sit on them".
One thing about the MSM that is beginning to be very irritating,they keep lumping Farage in with Le Pen.I do not find Nigel Farage a racist.There is a huge difference between being Anti-immigrant and Anti-open immigration.
The Maastricht treaty had an implied understanding to it: We scrap the border passport controls and everyone has to cooperate on combatting the heroin smuggling,people smuggling,etc. Ask yourself how effectively the borders with the Eastern European are policed.Nigel is correct: the police stats show the UK force arresting lots of Romanian mafia types running call girl rings etc. Also,very violent.Who gets the bill? European taxpayer? Nah.UK taxpayer? Yup....
As with Populist Independents around the world,he tries to show there is an alternative policy available which has worked in the past: border controls.No one talks about the amount of tax revenue the UK misses out on with everyone driving the Channel Tunnel loop and bringing in booze and ciggies ex-VAT.Gee,that works out well on everyones' tax bill (not). Mr.Farage just explains the consequences of losing control over one's lawmaking processes,sortof a Cassandra in the wilderness.I read some time ago that the Cornish fishing rights were bargained away to the Spaniards,and in return the UK gets lots of cheap Spanish tomatos.Perhaps I am misinformed....
No, reserve weapons for the German army. I heard they left all the labels and manuals in German.
why should the German army have labels and manuals in any other language than German?
"We scrap the border passport controls..." that would be the Schengen_Area
26 countries out of 28 EU do participate. the UK and Ireland... don't
Not so fast smartypants. If you do have an EU passport you get into Britain, no questions asked. I expect you know that.
and if you have a British passport - which is an EU passport - you get to the continent and can travel from country to country without border controls
what is your point? mine was that there still are border controls between the UK and the other 26 countries. the commenter above seemed oblivious to that
Bwahahahaha. Fuck those Neoliberalism Eurotrash cunts. Your days are on borrowed time. Mark my words. Start taxing yourself for taking a shit and flushing the toilet.
France warns "situations is grave for France....err, Europe."
Meh. Nothing the sound of trumpets can't cure with those crazy bastards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tORG__mggF8
"France Warns: The Future May be Bleak for The Elites."
Last timr it became so corrupted they started chopping heads.
'Situation Is Grave For Europe'
For the overpaid, useless EU leaders.
Good: Time to bury them all.
Those jerks needed a huge electoral backlash to understand that the situation is grave... I always said that people will have to see their purchasing power to be seriously eroded to react. Exactly what has been happening at an accelerated pace those last years. I don't see much of a future for Europe and it's probably too late to act (protectionism). No natural ressources, no reserve currency, no military. It will become some kind of big historical Disneyland.
Europeans are ick and tired of having to support and tolerate the crimes of useless hordes of third world parasites streaming in from muslim countries and Africa. Adding insult to injury, we have to hold out tongues about the depravity and lower intrelligence of these invaders. THe beatings will continue until morale improves.
Thats what they call "Far Right", anyone who thinks getting ass fucked by ILLEGAL hordes is not going to stand. Well its apparent that the hirdes are used as cannon fodder by the money changers.
wow! It's called "far right" when you think people have lower intelligence than you do, based on their country of origin. Some people, through no fault of their own are born in poor countries and have to scramble to get here. Sure, many lose their basic morals on the way, but that's not really the issue. The issue is the sustainability of mass migration and the insanity of neo-marxists running the industrialised world. If you get ass fucked it's by the political class, not by other cultures. The problem is the Anglo-Zionist power structure, but seems you'd rather blame the symptom than the cause.
Europeans should be more ick and tired to support and tolerate the crimes of useless hordes of first world bankers and political parasites streaming in from political parties.
A Euro parlamentarian gets in average 17.800 € per month! There are over 5.400 "officials" working in Brussels that get over 10.000 € monthly. Most EU parlamentarians leave for the weekend on expensive business class flights back to their home countries.
I could go on and on and on (read it up, Google some of the perks you get as a Parlamentarian).
THIS is the real outrage. Some poor slob from Africa will never be able to rob you as much in his entire Lifetime!
By he way, 5 years of "work" in the EU Parlament is the equivalent of 108 years of work with the minimum wage (not the official one - the one that people are really getting!)
It's by no measure a real bomb to the EU. Too many still have voted for social democrats. And well here in Germany there was not one Party there, which one could vote vor. And still as you can see, we're happy slaves and we still are Untertanen...
Turnout in some places was historically low. That is also a sign of disengagement. If these people had voted 'No' then there would have been a strong anti EU vote. Missed opportunity there.
Most Europeans are for European cooperation but a lot are against the EU. They'd (the EU) better learn their lesson and do something about that but they are only interested in their own interests.
absolutely correct, particularly "Most Europeans are for European cooperation but a lot are against the EU"
point is, the "Most" are more than the "a lot". and the "a lot"... don't cooperate with each other
meanwhile I disagree with your conclusion
I don't always agree with you either but upvoted you anyway cause you made a good point.
The thing is, alea iacta est. The pro-EU front is 'shocked' to see that the eurosceptics are the big winners of the EU elections. The downplaying and demonizing has already started. They can't understand it. I mean, in their optics they did their best to 'engage the voter'. They came out of their palaces, went to debates, had TV debates but still these sheep and peasants are voting against them!
The Europsceptics don't hold such a big part of the EP but the are a force now to be reckoned with.You are right though: they don't cooperate together. They are also quite different and some are outright looneys.
But it is up to the EU really: they either reform or anti-EU feelings will become stronger. They need to rethink democracy. We are living in the 21st century and people want more to say and don't leave things to some distant unelected bunch of highly paid officials in the pockets of big lobbyists.
But some German politician already commented to the anti-EU parties in Germany by saying they the best should be ignored. That will only work contrary.
"That is also a sign of disengagement."
The question is whether European people exhibited "apathy" or "antipathy".
apathy = indifference, laziness
antipathy = distaste, aversion, revulsion
I would strongly argue antipathy, whereas the political elites argue apathy.
Good point. I always like to think that politicians actually like small voter turn out because the ones that show up are more easily to predict and influence. As far as they are concerned I am of the opinion that they want to have the undecided, the apathics and antipathics (are these even words?) to stay at home.
The antipathics make a mistake by staying at home. Sometimes you need to beat an advosary with its own weapons.
Indeed.
Many people do not vote at all because they see it as legitimising a process that they fundamentally disagree with. That opens the door for the elites to call them apathetic (a lazy voter problem), whereas they are actually antipathetic (a political elites' problem).
Da. But sometimes it is better to put up with the process and vote because they will ignore people who are antipathic.
See this twitter of Jean Claude "when it gets serious you need to lie" Juncker: https://twitter.com/JunckerEU/status/470856199869857794/photo/1
These arrogant people think it is all about them and that the 500 million people in the EU is their playground.
True, but many people refuse to legitimise something they believe is illegitimate. Some of these people would prefer to see the corrupt political elite house completely torn down. Others are waiting for it to collapse under the weight of its own corruption and bankruptcy.
Once and for all: There is NO difference between voting and not voting. NONE. You and I don't matter AT ALL. With that in mind, why would anyone with 1/128th of a brain still vote??? Are you a fucking monkey? And who cares what "the elite" think about whether you're voting or not voting? WHO CARES? The sun will rise, the sun will set, and you will be dropped into your coffin at some point in the next 50 years or so, no matter WHAT you think about voting...
yeah ... so.
Americans are neutered sheep compared to these brave Europeans.
What happened to everyone hooting and hollering about all the voting being rigged? If it was rigged they never would have let this happen... more and more you see things like this and you wonder if the vote rigging stuff is put out there to encourage Americans NOT to vote.
The difference between our mortgage
debt bubble and theirs in nothing.
Except with no cohesion their
euro's looking shaky (I'm mean like
that's where the feedback should
be for tomorrow's European markets,) even if
our dollar could benefit from more
democratic policy making.
Germany's success stems from selling
successfully despite having high
wages.
It'd be more rewarding of a people's
worth with a stronger currency.
But, the must sometimes benefit from
a weaker euro.
So there're benefits to go around
with cohesion and democracy and cooperation.
The U.S. at least has the cohesion.
The food's getting more expensive, though
(especially milk,) perhaps because of;
food chain privatization
climate change
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/alabama-immigration-law-c_n_190...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=arizona+migrant+worker+shorta
EUROPEAN COMMUNITY
EUROPEAN UNION
Neither. A few friendly treaties to facilitate trade is more than enough. Bit of a false choice when the EC was clearly a trojan horse to EU.
Draghi attempting to save the European Union |Tequila rerun
Hot on the heels of the EU elections, during a live interview this morning on Sky News British Foreign Secetary William Hague indirectly admitted what the Tory strategy is towards the EU and his party's promised In/Out EU referendum if they win the 2015 election.
It is exactly what's been predicted by myself and others: the Tories are working with EU-crats and other EU leaders to construct a package of measures which will return powers to national governments, less EU federalism and changes to migration rules etc etc. They will then call a UK referendum and vote to stay in the EU. What will be hidden behind the smoke & mirrors campaign is that most of the reductions they agree to EU powers will be symbolic and meaningless and they will have virtually zero effect on the EU, its powers and how it operates. The changes agreed will be bigged up by the Tories.
British voters are being lined up for a mass suckering by the Cameron Conservative Party.
perhaps. though note how Cameron has already said he is going to oppose in the EU Council the appointment of the lead candidate of the EPP (continental conservatives) as commissioner
and this move is utterly nonsensical, there are no concessions he can extract with this kind of move, not now that the Anglophile Barroso is leaving. it's just going to isolate further the British conservatives in the EU parliament, and cement further the working agreements among continental conservatives and european socialists
and this is a fact: British and Continental Conservatives don't mix... at all. in contrast: British Labour mixes extremely well with all European Socialists
and so a conclusion (my two cents): both Torys and UKIP are the expression of British (Conservative) Exceptionalism. completely isolated
why? because they are peerless. they can't cooperate, they don't recognize peers and they aren't interested in cooperation among peers
the sooner the UK leaves the EU, the better. we aren't compatible, neither in our conservativism nor in our liberalism
note that it's the British voting system that shapes this confrontational way of politics
There is no "perhaps".
I described exactly how the Cameron Tory Party are planning to manage the EU In/Out referendum. I have set this out before.
For the reasons you describe, Cameron's minions will not get a package of measures from the EU-crats and other EU leaders that amounts to anything more than a bag of beans. Symbolic measures only etc. It will essentially be meaningless in the overall scheme of things as far as Brits are concerned. It will not deal with our serious concerns about being dictated to by the EU and of being dragged into a USE against our will. That train is charging down the tracks and is unstoppable. It has the full support of all/most EU country leaders.
BUT, Cameron & Co will BIG UP the package he negotiates to give the false impression to Brits that it's an important set of changes to EU fundamentals.
He will then Campaign to STAY IN the EU.
Thus, Cameron & Co are planning a giant con-trick on the British people.
Sounds about right. They don't seem to be in any mood to be conned though.
smacker, from a continental point of view is very little left on concessions to be extracted by the Torys
let's go back to fundamentals: continental conservatives have helped the Torys in many initiatives where the confederative principles of the club were touched
no common army, no common navy, no common police, no common debt - the very basics (where federalists would want moar)
a principle of opting-out on new initiatives (Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union) which Westminster finally cemented with an Act of Parliament that states that any further changes to the treaties would require a referendum. Which btw should just remind Brits that it is Westminster that they have to change... if they want change
meanwhile, the UK does not and will not participate to the EUR, it's firmly out of the eurozone (though the BoE retains a sharehold in the ECB)
the UK also retains control of it's borders, is not in the Schengen Area and will not join it. this goes also on in the whole cooperation thing among police and judicial matters
and the list is quite big of EU "things" where the UK will not participate (see Enhanced_cooperation): no European Fiscal Compact or Euro Plus Compact or European Stability Mechanism, no Unified Patent Court, no Open Method of Cooperation, etc. etc. etc
Hell, the UK did not even sign the treaty regarding the the EU_Divorce_Law, which is meant to help people like Farage (who has married a German national) in case they need a divorce without having to go through two national courts
so what is left for the Torys to ask, exactly? damn little
note that the last EU parliament voted a "Banker Bonus Cap" regulation that nobody in the UK is respecting or applying
fact is that both Torys and UKIP stick to this meme of "train is charging down the tracks and is unstoppable" not because it's factual, but because it's what conservative Britons want to hear
the British wagon... has been detached. not that anybody noticed, in the British wagon
I agree with you.
The British establisment have decided that Britain is to exit the EU.
The Problem is that Scotland will exit UK and enter the EU.
The reality is that the British Empire is long dead.
The nostalgics of the defunct British Empire are just deluded simpletons thinking that you can compete with INDIA/RUSSIA/CHINA alone.
Russia has a couple of scores to settle with Britain and the USSA.
smacker's point - and I tend to agree with him - is that the British establishment has decided to stay in the EU
I think our common point would be that it missed the chance to explain to the British electorate what the current situation is
which perhaps has also a lot to do with the British media landscape - or how differently continental politics is shaped
we will see. who knows, perhaps Westminster get's that "AngloSphere" thing together (warning: this is a half-joke)
Which half does the warning apply to ?
Ghordius: We are not at odds with our views.
The point is that despite some of the concessions made by the EU to Britain which you list, there are still a thousand issues which many British people do not like and do not want. We simply cannot accept slimeballs like Barroso running the show. And if Blair wriggles and squirms his way into running the EU, even more so.
Yes, what this really means is that many of us want OUT of the EU. However, all UK political parties (except UKIP) want to remain part of the EU for differing reasons. This is precisely why Cameron is choreographing a giant suckering of the British people if/when he holds a referendum.
As I say, the package he squeezes out of the EU will be nothing more than a bag of beans but he'll big it up into something important and then advocate voting to stay IN the EU.
and that is the completely frustrating British way of discussing all EU matters, from a continental point of view: "here are still a thousand issues which many British people do not like and do not want"
yes, there are a thousand issues. no, I'm not going to be bothered about details
an utterly frustrating British attitude. sorry, but sometimes it's infuriating as well as... uncooperative. never mind my mini-rant
Please don't become distracted.
The issue of the British attitude towards Europe that you now raise is a different issue to the way in which Cameron is planning to sucker the British people to vote to stay in the EU.
Dream on... BS for commoners, they could not care less about multiple countries saying NO to the European constitution...
You think they will care for that few voters, voters are not citizens.
In couple of week or even less the news will be about something else, show must go on.
I've red-downed you for not bothering to read or understand what I wrote, which is not too different to what you claim. Duh!
Oops my bad, I missed your post.
The EU will continue its fascist agenda. In the countries themselves heavy resistance will come against these 1984 banksters/politicians.
The chart above for Italy needs to be modified. The 5 stars movement is at 21%, while the left-side coalition is at 41%. This changes significantly the outcomes of the election (at least there).
This is so fucking bullish us equities I can't see straight.
Get em now on the cheap before the s&p is over 2000 next quarter.
If the euro collapses expect s&p 3000 by this time next year.
Ps: you cunts that poo pooed 1900 what now?
Fucking sas grande I'm looking at you. You suck.
If you liked selling em at 1800 you are going to love selling em over 1900 then 2000 21, 22, ,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,3900.
Bitchez
Tell the truth, you're a High IQ member of Hell's Angels, arncha?
Hey Tyler, call me when Golden Dawn takes over Greece and nominates one of their own to be Greece's representative to the UN. I wanna see the "stuff" fly at the UN general assembly meeting when that happens. Also I hear that Comrade Chris Mathews is having a tremor down his large intestine and out his drawers.
It should be noted that this still only gives the 'anti EU' groupings in the Eu parliament between a quarter and a third of seats. While that's a big step forward, it only slows down the process, and actually doesn't constitute a block to the addition of a new treaty, or a new agreement between the close working group of the Euro countries.
It will at least slow them down, and make the UK at least think hard about the gold plating of EU legislation. It will also focus minds on the importance of the direction of travel leading up to the potential 2017 in/out referendum. It also might focus minds on how much progress would have to shown in renegotiation for the UK public to be satisfied.
However - if the UK public on masse, were capable of reading and understanding both Marx (on nationalism and socialism in one state) and Monet (founder of the EU principle of centralisation by stealth), they would see that Marx was a supranationalist (like Lenin and Stalin), and Monet a Marxist, and the similarity of their aims would expose the purpose of integration.
http://rt.com/in-motion/161388-ukraine-darth-vader-vote/
Dream-on guys. The elected members of the EU (Euro-MPs´) are subservient to the unelected european commission. They have no power.
This is a gesture election. Farage, and the others, can spout-on about what they want. It will make no difference. Nuking Goldman-Sachs is the only thing that will!!
The only problem with that is there is no Goldman Sucks. There is only Lord Blankfein and all the human detritus usurers that hide behind corporate names and logos.
Bullshit. The elections have been rigged by the CIA to ensure civil unrest in the coming years, when the NWO will take over militarily. If you can't see that, you're a fool.
At least that's what my tin foil hat is telling me.
DAX hits NEW ATH, FTSEMIB UP 750 points !!!!!!!!!!!!!, S&P NEW ATH!, FRANCE NEW 6y HIGH
So much for
"European Voters Are Revolting; France Warns "Situation Is Grave For Europe"Every short in Europe just got wiped out
Shorts have nailed their own selves to a cross.
No one but those with the longest money in the world should be short.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbLFo02jlH8
How exactly are European voters revolting, if only 30% of those eligible to vote, actually voted?
And of those 30% of people accross Europe that voted, only 20% really voted, in just a couple of countries, far right parties?
Come on ZH, tell us he complete picture. Only 30% of voters voted.
This election is not interesting.
seems some cog diff going on with you downer, if voting in the EU is like American voting, the results were done weeks in advance and then the show was done for plausability,,maybe voters know the vote is fake, so why bother? remember when Irland said no to the EU, why they just said:" stupid voters voted wrong so we will vote until it come out right"...and it did.
"Come on ZH, tell us he complete picture. Only 30% of voters voted. "
overmedicatedundersexed, this is the crux: "if voting in the EU is like American voting". it isn't
voting procedures (paper ballots), voting districting and voting system (representational) are different
further, you know which country is the champion in voting and referenda? Switzerland. you know what the average voting participation to constitutional amendment referenda and general elections is, in Switzerland? 30%
fact is that 166 million did vote for this EU parliament, and most have now their representation, including "fringe parties" like UKIP, NVA, M5S, AfD, etc. etc.
Ghordius, I bow to your insight and knowledge of the eu..seems a wonderful system, and a system I would guess, you know is not corrupt and run by reptiles.
it's not a wonderful system. it's just what it is
do you really need me to spell it out? in America, you have districts constantly being redrawn, you have the First Past The Post "winner takes all" voting system and you have electronic ballots
the first favours incumbents, the second entrenches a two party system and the third makes electoral manipulation claims quite credible, or at least difficult to prove or disprove
Ghordius, I am too flippant today..we all learn from what you post, as you know I am a fan. you remind me of my loss of faith after viet nam, you still have faith in the system, I cannot.
my faith in the system is not the matter. the problem is... we haven't found any better system
find me a better one ('cause "no system" is usually eaten alive up by others "with system") and I'll jump over, immediately
you could say I comment on ZH in case someone does propose a truly better system
NVA is the biggest party in Belgium on the federal, regional and European level. Do you mind we withdraw the label "fringe party" ?
Apart from that : great posts Ghordius ( mostly ).
that is : so far, just see still not all votes are counted
They workd hard for Europe...
http://rt.com/news/161432-eu-parliament-eurosceptic-results/
According to the estimation of seats in the new European Parlament:
This 4 groups are the major ones.
All this shit talk about UKIP and that France chick ain't gonna change anything. But of course will have the opportunity to see Nigel make lots of Youtube video providing some free comedy.
EPP+ALDE have the de facto majority. And they are pro EU.
S&D+Greens also are pro EU.
UKIP and the other far right groups will not change a thing.
agree, but... are you seriously calling the European Popular Party... moderate neocons? yes, they are moderate, and they call themselves conservatives but generally speaking American political labels don't fit, in Europe. particularly not neo-conservatives
we still have classic conservatives, classic liberals and classic socialists, at least on most of the continent (in the UK it's different)
I was just trying to make some sort of equivalent with what they have in the USSA so they can understand.
The Left lost in Europe. The Right won.
Juncker will be the new head of the EU Commission.
Expect more austerity. More bank bailouts. More Greece bailouts. More EU of everything, this time benefiting the corporations.
The disintegration of all kinds of unions, decentralization, fragmentations, dissolutions and divorces are a panacea, one of the few in the universe that will destroy the scourge of the single most disastrous calamity to befall the universe: "Too Big To Fail".
The benefits that would derive from smaller units should be obvious to the people, because the reverse, Consolidation, is only beneficial to Oligarchs, plutocrats, Incumbency, Monarchs, and other power mad sociopaths, bent on Totalitarian control of the people.
If I were not an atheist, I would pray 5 times a day that ALL Too Big to Fail institutions are turned into ash, if they will not willingly vote to Go Small or go home.
Good Luck Europe.
When God destroyed the Tower of Babel, he told us that globalization is bad. He knew.
The strange thing about us humans is, we all complain about our life, about the world we live in, but despite it we all love to live.
That must be the greatest contradiction in life. So there must be a lot of things that are still making life worth living?
One could use this thought to prevent wasting too much of their precious lifetime on things that are hard to accept/change.
So no matter what your political or financial position is, try to not let it suck up your time and joy in life completely.
Remember we are only here for a nanosecond, far less important then we tend to regard ourselves.
Sometimes I wonder if people had the ability to choose between being born or not, how many would actually choose not to be born?
That's a tough one no?
I just tought of the reason most would still choose to be born: love.
That is the only thing most of us would not want to miss out, love of our friends, wife, children. We would choose to be here for them, to guard them and comfort them, to ensure the're OK
I doubt many of us would choose to be born only to have money and wealth?
free lunch, you a buddhist? show me your face before you were born. comes to mind. we are a leaf blowing in the wind and it's the wind that takes our life to where it belongs...what we want has nothing to do with it.
Well my friends, there you have it, the votes have been cast, counted and released, and it wont change one fucking thing.
Do you honestly think these neo-marxists cunts like Cameron, Barrosso, Van Rumpoy, Merkle, Schauble, Hollande will take into account what us fucking plebs think?
I have stated this before and will do so until blue in the face, nothing, and I mean nothing but all out fucking war with extreme prejudice against these cunts in all our respective countries will change anything.
Fair play to those who voted against the on-slaught of bolshevik marxist fuckers, but its changed nothing.
These fucking threats to humanity need terminating.
Bitchez
who did you vote for? 'cause it sounds you did not
Nobody Ghordius.
It only eggs the fucking filthy swines on.
;-)
so you did not vote... in the expectation that nothing changes. sorry, this just proves me that the non-vote is a status-quo vote
neither Tory nor UKIP nor LibDems nor Labour nor Greens nor Respect Party nor BNP nor even an independent. difficult to please eh?
ah, well, I belong to those willing to fight for your right to vote... or not. so long, my friend ;-)
"neither Tory nor UKIP nor LibDems nor Labour nor Greens nor Respect Party nor BNP nor even an independent. difficult to please eh?"
No, he's just not a MONKEY. It's one thing to get fucked in the ass by the government--but it's another thing entirely to BEG them to do it. What don't you get?
The correct way to use your ballot is to purposely spoil it by marking it for all candidates.
When you don't vote that is interpreted as 'you do not care'. If you spoil your ballot it indicates that you do care but you are witholding support for any of the candidates.
When the the level of spoiled ballots gets over 10% the political animals get very nervous.
Some governments (such as the US) are eliminating this avenue of expression by having electronic ballots. I guess they must be thinking "out of sight; out of mind". Obviously it merely frustrates the electorate leading to even more anger later on.
Elections serve one purpose: to give the masses the ILLUSION that they have some control over their governments.
REAL change will come ONLY after people such as Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein, David Rockefeller, Mark Carney, Janet Yellen, Ben Bernanke, Harry Reid and John McCain are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being shot and killed.
Mass uprisings will NOT succeed, at least not in the U.S., since the DHS and other militarized government agencies are now too well armed.Add to that the fact that most Americans are too cowardly to take any personal risks - they would prefer to cling to what few possessions they have left, waiting for another "Hope and Change" candidate on a white horse.
But random, targeted killings of the financial and political elites would work precisely because they could be accomplished by individuals in a random manner. The elites would NOT give up, but they would certainly be eager to "compromise" for a time.
This method may seem harsh - even brutal - but isn't casting people world-wide out of their homes and jobs into abject poverty and despair even more brutal ????
Until the financial and political elites truly FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, there will be no change.
re European Voters Are Revolting
And European Politicians Are Even More Revolting
The EU leaders should have a potluck. Their wives and concubines could cook their favorite recipe and they could all meet somewhere in Hungary or Czechoslovakia and picnic at a park in the open air on a nice day.
They could drink beer and wine, quietly go about their business of fun for a day, play some field hockey, what not, make it a party for God's sake, goddamnit anyhow and forget about all of this dinkin' around with money and the bullshit that surrounds it. Eat some food and quit thinkin' 'bout anything and go relax, for God's sakes, people.
A walk in the park is what it should be, not all of the horseshit involved to make it all fubar. It is snafu now, what the hell good will it do to have a vote?
The King of Norway's wife would bring lutefisk and lefse. Swedish meatballs from Sweden. Danish rolls, German sausage, Swiss cheese, Italian pasta, gyros from Greece.
Roast a whole hog and go for the gusto. Barbecue the thing and have briscuit of beef to boot.
All in all, it would be a great day and everybody would go home happy and it just would not cost that much.
With the EU, it just might cost an arm and a leg.
A potluck sounds better.
"The voters are disengaged" Shit! thats better than "Let them eat cake". Spoken like a true EU banker. How about "Give me my money you disengaged little EU voter fuck!" The arrogance of those politicians and bankers is just epic. Someone is going to get the idea they need to separate their heads from their shoulders in order to get their attention and make them understand.
The situation is only grave for the European criminal cartel that owns the ECB and wants to reduce the European public to sefdom...for the general public in Europe it is great news! The sooner the ECB criminals are ruined and jailed the better.
Soooo, what if we all just stopped supporting any political parties period? No money, no voting, no communication whatsoever? Force them to swim around in their own excrement until they all perish?
"DRAGHI SAYS PEOPLE VOTING ACROSS EUROPE ARE CLEARLY DISENGAGED"
LOL...better RUN, motherfucker...
An anti-immigrant party could never arise in California. That only happens in places where native born citizens still outnumber immigrants.
The ruling class in Europe will start to get desperate very soon and will begin to show their true colours.
The volence and theft from their own citizens will start to increase over the next few years, probably hitting a peak in 2020.
They'll do anything to stay in power, just as the French aristocrats did until their heads were removed.
Elections serve one purpose: to give the masses the ILLUSION that they have some control over their governments.
REAL change will come ONLY after people such as Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein, David Rockefeller, Mark Carney, Janet Yellen, Ben Bernanke, Harry Reid and John McCain are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being shot and killed.
Mass uprisings will NOT succeed, at least not in the U.S., since the DHS and other militarized government agencies are now too well armed.Add to that the fact that most Americans are too cowardly to take any personal risks - they would prefer to cling to what few possessions they have left, waiting for another "Hope and Change" candidate on a white horse.
But random, targeted killings of the financial and political elites would work precisely because they could be accomplished by individuals in a random manner. The elites would NOT give up, but they would certainly be eager to "compromise" for a time.
This method may seem harsh - even brutal - but isn't casting people world-wide out of their homes and jobs into abject poverty and despair even more brutal ????
Until the financial and political elites truly FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, there will be no change.
I see Greece is right on schedule. Now that EU countries have forgiven them tens of billions and lent them tens of billions more, its time to pull the plug on austerity to see if the EU will actually force them to leave the EU altogether. My best guess is the EU will promise them billions more forgiven, and then Greece will bolt. Of course, the leftists won't ever be able to fix Greece anyway. As for Europeans being disengaged? More like they're finally fully engaged. They realize the path they'd been following the last two decades is the path to the EU extinction further on. So, who is ready to bail first?
If you do want change you need to send a message to the government. The correct way to use your ballot is to purposely spoil it by marking it for all candidates.
When you don't vote that is interpreted as 'you do not care'. If you spoil your ballot it indicates that you do care but you are witholding support for any of the candidates.
When the the level of spoiled ballots gets over 10% the political animals get very nervous.
Some governments (such as the US) are eliminating this avenue of expression by having electronic ballots. I guess they must be thinking "out of sight; out of mind". Obviously it merely frustrates the electorate leading to even more anger later on.
"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it."
I think it was American humorist Will Rogers who said this in the 1930's. And he was right.
The financial and political power elites have held power for centuries. Does anyone truly believe that they will surrender this power because of an ELECTION ????? Elections are merely a "pressure valve" used by the elites to give the masses the ILLUSION that they have a voice in their future. Simply recall the world-wide euphoria following Obama's election in 2008: Bush was out and Obama would change the world. NOT !!! The same elites rule the world now as before.
Does anyone think that Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen or any other "anti-establishment" leader would ever attempt to change the banking system or social structure? Not a chance in Hell !!! Indeed, most political movements are infiltrated and co-opted long before they attain real power. This political tactic is as old as politics itself. And should any leader attempt REAL change, a bullet to the head will surely follow.
Elections are merely a "pressure valve" mechanism used by the elites to give the masses the ILLUSION that they have a voice in their future. Will Rogers was right: "If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it."
Political Earthquake or Putinism advance on Europe?