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President Obama To Explain How Well The VA Probe Is Going - Live Feed

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Update: Sure enough, Eric Shinseki was just thrown under the bus. From the WSJ:

After more than a month of battling his critics, Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki resigned Friday. After a meeting with President Barack Obama, during which Mr. Shinseki presented the VA's internal findings from a nationwide review of scheduling practices, the retired general announced he would step aside to give a new VA leader the chance to fix the systemic problems at the department

Following his meeting with VA Secretary Eric Shinseki, President Obama has decided to do a quick press briefing... will he use the words "under the bus"...?

 

 

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Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:17 | 4809508 venturen
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I thought Obama only used the words "back of the bus"!

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:19 | 4809522 Slave
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What a fag.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:24 | 4809543 fightthepower
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How soon until this guy lands a multi million dollar job at an insurance company?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:29 | 4809565 StacksOnStacks
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Who's getting Qaddafi'd?  OH!  That kind of probe... eh.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:40 | 4809613 Stackers
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Obama scandal list:

 

Rev Wright gate

Czar gate

Benghazi Gate

Citizen assassination Gate

NSA spying Gate

IRS targeting Gate

AP Spying Gate

Fast & Furious Gate

Solyndra Gate

Non-prosecution of Black Panthers Gate

Birth Certificate Gate - regardless of what you think about where he was or wasn't born - it's clear the long form BC "image" the WhiteHouse provided is a forgery.

Clapper perjury Gate

Holder Perjury Gate

Learner Perjury Gate

Hillary Perjury Gate - but I guess you could lump this in with the whole Benghazi Gate

VA wait list Gate

I miss any?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:42 | 4809622 kchrisc
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You forgot just plain ol' treason.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:16 | 4809782 graneros
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Alrighty then problem nearly solved.  All that's left is to appoint a follow up blue ribbon commision, increase budget by a few billion bux at the VA, assign a VA Czar(preferably one who is either black, female, illegal immigrant, or gay best if they were all of these) have MSNBC proclaim "Obama fixes another Bush problem" and do spotlight interviews with a couple of gushing GI's whose stubbed toes were completely taken care of in record time, have Obama on all networks spewing word clouds on how HE has single handedly saved the nation's veterans from a Republican run cabal of misfit administrators (be sure to throw Bush's name in several more times and the Tea Party because surely they had a hand in it, oh yea and make sure to mention Sarah Palin can see a VA Hospital from her neighbor's garage window),  and finally pass out millions in bonuses to all VA workers from mop pushers to chow slingers.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:07 | 4809984 thamnosma
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I think that's almost exactly what will occur.  You've got the traitor's playbook down pat.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:44 | 4809625 ShrNfr
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Rezko gate

Blago gate

Yesse Yehudah gate

there are more.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:46 | 4809637 Headbanger
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Ummm... "If you like your current health care plan you can keep it" gate...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:55 | 4809678 ShrNfr
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I do not bother to name all the times he has said something that he did not mean. That would be endless.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:48 | 4809642 NoDebt
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Cambridge PD-gate

Las Vegas is off limits for corporate meetings-gate

That chick in Georgia who was ON THEIR OWN TEAM that they forced to quit on the spot for something she allegedly said and was later found to be simply misquoted, and blameless.  She didn't get her job back- thrown out with yesterday's garbage. Gate.

Oh, an all of the promises of Obamacare being a lie.  That little thing.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:30 | 4809844 de3de8
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Expose CIA operative gate

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:51 | 4809660 Dr. Engali
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Race Bait Gate..

Fucking kick Zero out  and close the Gate

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:09 | 4809990 thamnosma
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I wonder if they'll loot the White House before leaving.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:42 | 4810110 Dr. Engali
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I'm not entirely convinced they'll leave.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:05 | 4809725 BandGap
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Birth Certificate gate

Lost kindergarten records gate

Choom gate

College transscripts gate, including Fulbright Scholarship gate

Phony SS number gate

Three gay dead men in Chicago (all in a week) gate

You can keep your doctor gate

Yadadaddadadadadaddadadadaddadad Yadaddadadaddadadaddadadad Yadadaddadadadaddadadada

 

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:12 | 4809755 KickIce
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Soon to come:  "I did not have sexual relationships with that man".

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:22 | 4810325 Conax
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no, that homo named Larry somethin-or-other already 'blew the meat whistle' on that one.

Don't forget the 'Moochelle's a man' gate.

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:09 | 4809991 DoChenRollingBearing
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Stackers

Thank you and to you other guys above for the list of Obama scandals.  Never forget!

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:56 | 4810174 rosiescenario
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For every gate you can see, there are 10,000 more in deep camo......

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:30 | 4810351 aardwolf
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You forgot: not revealing 9/11 and all the other false flag psyops to the people... Bloody Mossad and CIA demolishing those buildings with all those people in them...I wonder who was the sick fuck sitting at the top of WTC 7 that actually pushed the button after the drones hit? Then strolls out of WTC 7 and demolishes that one as well as a final F you to the people of the world...I mean they didn't even bother trying to explain how that one fell down at freefall...arrogant bastards...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:29 | 4810352 aardwolf
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sorry double post

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:28 | 4810355 dexter_morgan
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keep your doctor gate,

Joe Biden son appointment gate,

back door netanyahu gate,

choke and kill (gun related lending too 'risky') gate

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:37 | 4809590 Headbanger
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And this asshat expects U.S. troops to attack U.S. citizens at his command when his administration let veterans die waiting for help!!?

I don't think it's  he should worry about U..S. citizens attacking now but the U.S. military joining them!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-29/meet-directive-302518-granting-...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:41 | 4809620 onewayticket2
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lawyer

community organizer

launched political career in livingroom of self described and convicted "domestic terrorist" bill ayers

state senator who supported "post birth abortions"

us senator, fewer than 200 days? voted present.

 

....who expected him to be qualified as a CEO of an organziation the size of the US Gov?  

 

the average sales assistant has more management experience.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:23 | 4810335 graneros
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My scrotum has more managerial experience.  Not to mention being far more appealing to the eye.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:48 | 4810638 Rusty Nayle
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Green arrow for the first sentence, red arrow for the second...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:06 | 4809727 Government need...
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Ironic.  Preezy wants US troops to be ready to blast US citizens, while at the same time, he can't kill 'em quick enough as veterans with healthcare needs.  Think about this, active duty servicemen and women.  You are cannon fodder while you serve, and you're a domestic terrorist suspect after you serve.  Good luck getting timely healthcare through the VA system, although I hear every hospital is opening up 'showers' that will cure you of all your health conditions.  Very short lines, too!

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:11 | 4809996 thamnosma
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Then he adds insult to injury by having the gall to address West Point.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 19:27 | 4811352 Luckhasit
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Less than six months.

When you take one for the team, they look out.  I give them that. 

The long term benefits however may be questionable depending on your general long term outlook on life.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:20 | 4809531 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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I see his lips moving, but all I hear is lie lie lie lie lie lie ............

Ears now bleeding.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:24 | 4809545 Relentless101
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It your ears??? Interesting. I too have bleading, but it's like someone reamed my ass hole. We just keep getting fucked.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:07 | 4809729 Hippocratic Oaf
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I took two shots and still see this as a who gives a fuck what lies dribble out of this n!&&ers mouth?

Thanks odumbfuk/greenspaz/burnyankme/yeller for making me drink at the office!

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:11 | 4809751 overmedicatedun...
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shenshitty, was rewarded with this va job, but nobody told him he would actually have to do management, wonder how many rounds of golf he got in these last few yrs ,  while taking junkets and lunch meetings at high end eateries, gosh he must of worn himself out...rumor has it he like fudge packing as a hobby.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:08 | 4809734 alexcojones
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The GOTUS , Golfer Of The United States always gets  a good lie.

AC not PC

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:21 | 4809534 Max Cynical
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"...and I have a pen and a phone."

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:39 | 4809611 Dr. Engali
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No it won't. This will be swept away by the lapdog media just like every other scandal, and we all know the repukes sure as hell won't do anything. 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:37 | 4809661 Relentless101
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Hilarious. Watching bloomberg. Right after covering the statement, it's on to "tiny hampsters eating tiny burritos." Fuck me...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:39 | 4809865 Emergency Ward
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That's right and the deeper scandal is why Obama keeps sending the troops to get maimed and die for an aggressive foriegn invasion, occupation and war agenda.  He keeps fueling the VA with war-twisted bodies and minds, what's up with that?

Notice how the lapdog media framed Obama's announcement of the permanent US Military occupation of Afghanistan?  They said he is withdraaaaaawing troops......winding dooooown.....

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:41 | 4809885 NotApplicable
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That's doubleplusgood, right?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:40 | 4809614 dontgoforit
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One can always hope - one scandal too far.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:21 | 4809535 Dr. Engali
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What no uniformed veterans behind him showing their glowing approval of his actions? After his reception at West Point he is probably too wary of having anybody from the armed forces behind him. 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:27 | 4809559 FuzzyDunlop21
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The Rainbow Brigade was unavailable. They had a drill today where they learned the proper response should they see someone wearing white after labor day.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:12 | 4809759 Max Cynical
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He's probaly getting paranoid of SS protection. I'm just waiting for him to replace the SS with his clan of nicely dressed black security thugs all wearing bow ties.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:12 | 4809998 thamnosma
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Actually I wish he would do that, seems appropriate.  Quit the masquerade already.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:18 | 4810011 Froman
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Farrakahn probably charges too much for the Nation of Islam Security detail so the assignment will fall to the Black Panthers Philadelphia chapter since he is already tight with them after they helped deliver fraudulent votes and provided intimidation and beatings at the polls for this POS Community Organizer in Chief in 2012.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:22 | 4809536 ejmoosa
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IF I were POTUS, I'd be in the VA hospitals every day until I saw progress.

 

THis POTUS has a Tee time in 45 minutes.....

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:23 | 4809539 Max Cynical
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If you look closely, I think you can see the wires moving his hands and lips.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:26 | 4809555 power_shift
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Wires moving hands and lips is soooo old school. In modern times teleprompting is used for puppeteering.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:23 | 4809541 Jahbulon
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That was disgusting.  I wonder if he ever has to bite his tounge to keep from laughing at the lame questions the media lobs at him.  

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:25 | 4809542 JustObserving
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Let me take a couple of questions before I go back to wars in Syria and Ukraine and droning poor, helpless peasants.

A Nobel Prize is a big responsibility

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:12 | 4809763 Government need...
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As a Nobel Laureate, I feel the need to delberate extra long before deciding which drone targets to approve every AM.  Sometimes, this causes me to be delayed 3 minutes for my tee time.  Dont worry, though.  I make sure I murder the right proportion of whites/blacks/purples, just to show support for diversity.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:24 | 4809546 Dr. Engali
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Lol...Good job Brownie.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:24 | 4809547 q99x2
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Since the US doesn't have a president, or a financial system or a military I'm not watching.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:28 | 4809568 TalkToLind
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This is bearish for gold.  

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:29 | 4809570 Everybodys All ...
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Bush's fault ...

and in no way does this imply the Obamacare fucking disaster will be anything like the VA hospitals does it Mr. president.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:48 | 4809913 booboo
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"and in no way does this imply the Obamacare fucking disaster will be anything like the VA hospitals does it Mr. president"
He'll no, the VA is a single payer system, that's what is coming after they work out the kinks in zero care.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:03 | 4810210 83_vf_1100_c
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 I  am under the VA (healthcare system) /s

 

It's better than nothing but is essentially a prescription medication service. I tell all me acquaintences that this what obamacare is gonna look like. Except for the part where you get fiscally raped to pay for that POS form of healthcare. I get fucked over for free.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:47 | 4810115 FeralSerf
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I'm glad there's at least one here that admits this is Bush's fault. It clearly is Bush's, and Bush's partner in crime, Obama's fault.

How many here remember General Shinseki's appearance in front of Congress before the Iraq invasion telling it as it is? Rummy claimed the war would only cost $50 billion and would be paid for by all the happy Iraqis that were being "freed". Shinseki claimed, by his calculations -- and that's what he did in the Pentagon -- the war would cost north of $500 billion. He was absolutely right.

Shinseki's telling the truth and refusing to "play ball" got him a job at the rat's nest VA where he would be forced to fall on his sword. That'll teach him and any others like him to speak up when TPTB want to go to war.

General Shinseki -- fired for telling the truth to Rumsfeld -- to head VA -- another great pick by President Obama

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-12/msg0076...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:20 | 4810315 Liquid Courage
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How many here remember General Shinseki's appearance in front of Congress before the Iraq invasion telling it as it is?

 

I sure do. This whole thing stinks no matter which way you turn. Surely not even neocons are low enough to screw over vets just to get back at a quasi-whistleblower who was really just doing his damn job. So then, did they know that the screwing over of the vets was unavoidable given 1) the rate at which they were creating seriously wounded soldiers and 2) the deteriorating clusterfuck at the VA; and so drop him in it knowing it would boil over soon enough? Or is General Shinseki just a completely incompetent idiot who was nevertheless able to rise quite high in the chain of command?

Don't forget to Support the Troops, now. Oh yeah, Thank You For Your Service. Now, if you don't mind, go find a dark hole to hide in so you don't get in the way or scare the children. We're all about the children. And Women's Rights. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, and Gay Rights too. 'Cause we're the Good Guys who killed Hitler ... well, almost. Aren't we nice?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:29 | 4809572 Brokenarrow
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this man is dispicable

Sat, 05/31/2014 - 15:56 | 4812873 monad
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pu·sil·lan·i·mous ?pyo?os??lan?m?s/ adjective
  1. showing a lack of courage or determination; timid.

 

synonyms: timidtimorouscowardlyfearfulfaint-heartedlily-liveredspineless,craven, shrinking; 
informalchickengutless, wimpy, wimpish, sissy,yellow, yellow-bellied "with the tough issues facing this city, the last thing we need is another pusillanimous mayor"

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:30 | 4809574 dontgoforit
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"Predates my presidency"......oh, yeah, like in 5 years all he can do is continue to be inept, inadequate and totally out of his depth and never is anyone accountable, and never is he wrong about anything.  This show should be cancelled..  Cloward-Piven at its finest.  Tool for the oligarchs.  "As for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:53 | 4809928 Emergency Ward
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Obama would be entitled to say that if he had shut down all the useless US military operations and occupations around the world.

Since he has done the opposite........and they said Bush lacked self-awareness.....even Odrone-ya lovers must finally admit that he is just as mindlessly destructive as Dubya.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:54 | 4810444 B.J. Worthy
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Cognitive dissonance defined: everything is Bush's fault but Benghazi was a long time ago.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:13 | 4810505 FeralSerf
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The Gulf of Tonkin incident probably isn't Bush's responsibility.

But 9/11, the lack of a serious investigation and the coverup of the truth is clearly the responsibility of Bush and the other criminals in his administration. They are the real terrorists.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:31 | 4809577 bigsheep66
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I'm pretty sure he can get away with anything.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:30 | 4809579 ebworthen
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Words, just words; and lots of them.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4809584 RiverDrifter
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...annnnnnnnd Shinseki is gone.  Poof.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4809585 alfred b.
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     Funny that they had all sorts of problems within the VA; but never a problem awarding BONUSES to the 'scheduling admin'.

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4809586 Max Cynical
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Google (Group) Calendar Mr. President...problem fixed. 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4809587 nathan1234
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The only Probe the Bummer is capable of Probing is Reggie's asshole

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:35 | 4809600 Squid Viscous
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it's usually the other way around, but Reggie is game for anything...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4809588 ShrNfr
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Ever since I learned of this from CNN, I have been mad as hell. Let there be no mistake, I am not going to put up with this, period. After all, it intereferes with my golf times. I had to meet this guy this morning and I missed my tee time.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:36 | 4809591 tony wilson
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unkle tom is lookin old

yessir

unkle toms been smokin to much

reggie pole

you better believe it brother

dares a killer in der whitey house

who gonna tell me eyes wrong

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:34 | 4809595 ebworthen
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Yup, threw him under the bus.

Watch him appoint McCain.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:46 | 4809639 ShrNfr
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At least that would get him out of the Senate.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:56 | 4809684 dexter_morgan
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BONUS!

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:10 | 4810249 ParkAveFlasher
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Bonus Army?  History rhymes.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:57 | 4809688 Taffy Lewis
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No, the meeting with Hillary was so that she could name Shinseki's replacement.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:36 | 4809597 Dr. Engali
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These reporters are fucking scared retarded shills. Listen to that bitch bumble and stumble trying to ask her question without hurting Zero's feelings. 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:35 | 4809599 FieldingMellish
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Just waiting for Kerry to tell the veterans to "man up".

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:40 | 4809882 disabledvet
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He can stop by anytime. "Verbal combat only" as well.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:36 | 4809603 venturen
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do they use the same speech and just fill in the blanks? Obamcare, VA Hospital, Iraq, Iran, Snowden, Wall Street, Gay Marriage, Housing Bubble, etc

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:54 | 4809671 Bear
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That's because they have the same approach to every institution ...  Egalitarianism with a dollop of arrogant elitism sprinkled with nepotism ... and if you notice those that make the rules never seem to have to live by them

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:42 | 4809618 Hammer12
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I thought the guys name was Eric not Rick.

 

"Rick Shinseki has been a great soldier," Obama said Wednesday. "He himself is a disabled veteran. And nobody cares more about our veterans than Rick Shinseki." 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/23/dem-senate-candidates-break-w...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:10 | 4809627 TalkToLind
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Notice that there is no mention whatsoever of the ever increasing numbers of maimed veterans that the military industrial complex continues to produce in far away lands.  TPTB don't want to fix anything;  you can tell because no one talks about the REAL problem.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:45 | 4809635 icanhasbailout
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Tyler, you may want to save this one, I've gotten plenty of use out of it over the years and expect to get plenty more.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL-Oj1rQ-c

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:50 | 4809657 Sticky Wicket
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Funny, just last week Obama couldn't get his face out of Shinseki's lap, now he resigns and Obama is 'sad'. Poor Obama.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:53 | 4809668 intric8
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Cut the shit, Obozo. You're gonna subject these guys to the same horrible delays in urgently needed care, bureaucracy and red tape they were facing at the va with obamacare. Most hypocritical prez ever

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:05 | 4809977 gina distrusts gov
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Yall need to talk with some Vietnam vets ...this shit with the VA has been going on far longer than that  pos imitation pres has been active in the federal gov.

30 years  for agent Orange comp how many died before compensated for chemical war in Vietnam?

how many for the first gulf war poisoning with gov approved drugs that were never tested (except on the militarily) to say nothing about bushes iraq war

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:16 | 4810275 ParkAveFlasher
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Same recipe for centuries.  Recruit, use, dispose, repeat. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Bonus for the bonus: just wait until the next war, and THEN put them back to work re-fitting the war machine.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:00 | 4809706 Yen Cross
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  I don't know how Zero can even face himself in the mirror let alone in front of a national audience...Roll the fucking guillotines.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:54 | 4810663 SDShack
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Sociopaths don't care about anything but themself. Period. It's all you need to know to understand why the world is so fucked up.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:01 | 4809708 esum
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obama is qualified to hand out paper towels in a men's urinal and that's about it.... possibly a pushbutton elevator operator.... or a slow sign holder ... or handing out towels in a bath house.... more to his liking...

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:05 | 4809711 lasvegaspersona
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I trained at the West Side VA in Chicago.

The VA system has always been a bit of a mystery. Why do vets need a separate system? The answer is to provide a political kingdom. NO OTHER ANSWER HOLDS UP!!!

The 'doctors' at the VA are often good community docs working there part time but many of the full time employees are at the VA because they can't (or do not have) a license to practice in any state....yes...VA doctors are not required to have a state license!!!

This results in a very 'compliant' staff of physicians. They can't go anywhere else so they do what they are told. They often lack skills and training may not be up to snuff. At the West Side the ER docs were all from Cuba. None had American training (this was in the early 1970s). The practiced marginal medicine (even from the perspective of a trainee like myself) and would do what ever the various chiefs demanded. The most regular activity was 'fill the empty beds'...overnight the beds would be filled. Homeless vets often traveled from Florida to Chicago with the weather. Always a bed at the VA....or at least there was then.

Now that the system is stressed with sick vets it cannot respond like a normal institution would. The VA should be abolished and our vets should be absorbed into the real medical system and given vouchers for payment.

If the VA system has any real distinguishing talents it can compete in the marketplace. If its ability to help vets with limb loss let it go into the market place and demonstrate its superiority and take care of non-vets too.

I doubt it does. It should be closed up and we should admit it is a relic of a long gone era.

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:16 | 4810010 thamnosma
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Excellent points.  Why aren't they just given a veterans health card that in essence is a lifetime Blue Cross or something like that.  They should have access to whatever doctors and hospitals they want.  Might even save money.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:04 | 4809712 ebworthen
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Merge the FHA with the VA.

Take the money being given to banks to juice housing.

Outlaw H.F.T. and hire those I.T. dudes to create a scheduling system that correlates appointment with completion of visit - with a satisfaction survey sent to the Vet patient via USPS mail, email, and text message with randomized personal visits by unemployed Veterans.

If results aren't satisfactory, you cut pay for everyone in the chain in that region 5% until you get to -20% and you fire the regional director.  Bet they'd start getting results.

Imagine how far $1 Billion a month would go to hire retired or unemployed Veterans to triage within the system to help get fellow Vets with appointments; work the waiting room, get them to appointments, send reminders, field phone calls, advocate within the hospital when things aren't working.

If we can juice Wall Street with $85 Billion/month for over a year surely we can spend $1 Billion/month to hire retired or unemployed vets to help improve the system.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:02 | 4809716 overmedicatedun...
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the elite long for the day when they can clone vets with set expiration dating on life spans "ala blade runner"

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:06 | 4809728 22winmag
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NEWSFLASH: The government investigates itself (again) and finds nothing seriously wrong (again).

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:20 | 4809798 esum
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHJsGNs3wdY

congress should get its med treatment in VA facilities.... rapid changes bro

 

 

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:22 | 4809809 dexter_morgan
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FIRED! There, problem solved, move along now.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:26 | 4809835 I Write Code
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Threw him under an M1A1 just a day after Shinseki was swearing he was never going to resign.

Shinseki has been a chowder head for a long time, any real army guy would have resigned pro forma weeks ago.  Or for that matter maybe got something DONE in five years.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:27 | 4809837 Carl Popper
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Lol. I would love to hear a president say something honest some day like that "under the bus"

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 12:36 | 4809868 disabledvet
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Ummmmm..."how about firing the real criminals."

I hope these Generals start naming names...and crossing them off The List too.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:05 | 4809979 thamnosma
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Doesn't this sick narcissist EVER shut up?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 13:16 | 4810015 Joebloinvestor
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A real leader, he didn't even fire anyone before he bailed.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:49 | 4810641 anarcholeptic
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One must ask, why doesn't the veterans of this country stand up to their government (Me personally... I don't care, I'm not a veteran). But if I was promised healthcare because I fought for the military industrial complex (let's not kid ourselves here... We're not fighting to liberate anymore) I'd be kind pissed off.

So you must ask yourselve.... When the hell is someone gonna start a hashtag campaign????!!!!!??????!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

BTFanarchy

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:49 | 4810642 anarcholeptic
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One must ask, why doesn't the veterans of this country stand up to their government (Me personally... I don't care, I'm not a veteran). But if I was promised healthcare because I fought for the military industrial complex (let's not kid ourselves here... We're not fighting to liberate anymore) I'd be kind pissed off.

So you must ask yourselve.... When the hell is someone gonna start a hashtag campaign????!!!!!??????!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

BTFanarchy

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 15:53 | 4810660 lasvegaspersona
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By praising Shinseki Obama has maintained the loyality of his huge federal workforce (their jobs are safe) but completely negated the message he should be trying to convey ('do your job or you'll get fired'.)

He cares nothing for the efficiency of government and cares only about the votes of federal workers many of whom have no other options than fill a chair in a government office. The VA will not improve. The Dems will continue to get almost all the votes of the stooges who work for them.

...but that is what government has always been. ..it is a program to give jobs to those who cannot find work elsewhere....at a great salary btw...

Sat, 05/31/2014 - 15:54 | 4812866 monad
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