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Is A Second American Revolution Now Inevitable?
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
"Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." - Militia Captain John Parker at the Battle Of Lexington
Just a couple days ago, two armed assailants, a married couple purported by the mainstream media to be “white supremacists” and “conspiracy theorists,” ambushed two police officers at a CiCi’s Pizza in Las Vegas, killing the officers after screaming, “This is a revolution!” The suspects then reportedly covered one officer’s body with a Gadsden Don’t Tread On Me flag and then fled to a Walmart, where they killed another man with a CCW who attempted to reason with them, then committed suicide. Yes, it reads like a Southern Poverty Law Center fantasy story; and in many ways, it is.
As we all predicted the MSM has followed the pattern they have always followed, which is to equate the actions of one or two psychotics with the beliefs and principles of the liberty movement in general.
I remember when Jared Loughner fired into a crowd of people near Tucson, Ariz., killing numerous Federal and State employees; the immediate response by the media was to attempt to tie him to the liberty movement. In the end, he turned out to be a raving leftist. I remember the Boston Marathon bombing and the automatic reflex by the media to accuse “right-wing extremists” of the crime. So far, we have seen NO hard evidence to implicate anyone specific in that atrocity, including the Tsarnaev brothers. Of all the violent crimes dumped in the lap of the liberty movement over the years, how many have actually been committed or endorsed by the liberty movement? I can’t think of any.
This has not prevented the establishment media from doing everything in their power to associate criminal action with political ideals. Efforts to sully the success of the Bundy Ranch stand-off were swift, with Jared and Amanda Miller's visit to Bunkerville splashed across the headlines. Luckily, the sound judgement of organizations like Oath Keepers led founder Stewart Rhodes to personally ask the two future shooters to leave the property. I can only imagine the weight of the slander if they had been allowed to stay.
When an activist movement holds the moral high ground against a repressive establishment power structure, the establishment’s primary recourse is to target the character of its principles. The secondary recourse is direct confrontation. If a dissenting organization is not mindlessly vicious in its methods, then simply make it APPEAR vicious. If it is not hateful in its rhetoric, then artificially tie it to people who are. And if a government really needs to kick-start a crackdown, it can engineer its own man-made calamities and blame the groups that most threaten its authority.
This was achieved to great effect in Europe from the 1950s until the 1990s by the CIA working in tandem with multiple European governments under a covert project called Operation Gladio.
Gladio was essentially a secret army of operatives and stooges, handlers and puppets, used to create false-flag terrorist shootings and bombings across Europe that were blamed on “left-wing extremists.” In reality, NATO alphabet agencies were behind the entire facade. The goal was to terrorize the citizenry through a nonstop campaign of indiscriminate death, blamed on a convenient scapegoat, so that individuals would hand over more freedom and more power to the central governments. The point is, whether real or staged, I believe such events are going to escalate within the U.S. today on an incredible scale and that, regardless of evidence, they will be blamed on “right-wing extremists.” In case you were wondering, that label will be foisted on most if not all of us.
That said, I think an important truth needs to be stated here: Whether the beliefs of the attackers in Las Vegas were actually liberty movement-oriented or not is ultimately irrelevant. To shoot random police and civilians and then commit suicide is an act of pure insanity, a product of mental instability that has nothing to do with political philosophy, and mental instability trumps belief and association anytime. Mentally unstable people exist within ALL belief systems and political groups.
At bottom, I do not care what their beliefs were. Their actions do not represent the values I hold dear, nor do I think they represent the values most of us hold dear. The shooting is a tragedy, but in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing, and I have little doubt it will be forgotten within weeks.
I relate the story because I do, in fact, agree with one thing: that a “revolution,” a second American Revolution, is inevitable. But I think I speak for the vast majority of the movement when I say that this revolution will not begin with the deaths of innocents or random government employees on our hands, and it certainly won’t begin at the doorstep of a CiCi’s Pizza.
The Bundy ranch incident, which occurred only a short drive from Las Vegas, has been a revelation for many people. Mistakes were made, provocateurs reared their ugly heads, and lessons were learned. But overall, America has been fundamentally changed, even if the average person does not realize it yet. The information war came within a razor’s edge of evolving into a shooting war, with the establishment in retreat, licking its wounds while planning how it can gain back its composure and carefully crafted image of "invincibility".
What frightens the establishment most, I think, is that the American people have become active participants in their own national environment once again. At Bundy ranch, they stopped asking for mercy, they stopped begging the system to police itself, they stopped waiting for the rigged elections, and they stopped relying on useless legal avenues to effect change. Rather, they took matters into their own hands and changed the situation on the ground on their own. For oligarchy, this development is unacceptable, because one success could lead to many.
Already, we are beginning to hear whispers of possible Federal retribution against those who participated in the confrontation.
This has been cemented within the efforts of a new task force against “domestic terrorism” organized by none other than Eric “Fast and Furious” Holder.
After the recent exposure of Barack Obama’s Department of Defense Directive 3025.18, we now know that since at least 2010, the White House has been setting the stage for the use of military force against “domestic threats.” That is to say, for at least the past four years our government has been quietly maneuvering toward martial law. It’s been happening for much longer if you count George W. Bush’s Presidential Decision Directive 51, which has yet to be fully declassified.
The exposure of Directive 3025.18 also came with information that the Obama Administration considered using it as a way to activate military forces and drones against the Bundy ranch. The burning question is, of course, why didn’t it? The Federal government is not known for its diplomacy in the face of a defiant citizenry. Waco and Ruby Ridge made that clear. I believe that it was not necessarily the people on the ground at Bunkerville, Nev., that they were most worried about. The terrain is admittedly a terrible place to mount a defense against a mechanized horde of jackboots.
No, what the White House feared was a larger response to such an attack. It feared the millions of patriots who would swarm down from all sides if it committed to a Ruby Ridge-style siege. It feared the reality that this time, Americans were not going to sit back and watch another family be slaughtered on national television. It feared the fact that it didn’t have the moral high ground in the public eye and that a kinetic failure on its part would be met with cheers, rather than tears, from much of the populace.
So where does this leave us? With the Bundy success besmirching the Feds, the next strategic program will likely include an unprecedented effort to demonize the liberty movement perhaps to the point of a Gladio-type false-flag campaign, leading to the eventual detention of activists as domestic security threats. It’s not going to end with shootings in pizzerias and slobbering hit pieces from the SPLC. Expect a landslide of violent acts. Expect another engineered large-scale calamity like the Oklahoma City Bombing. Expect dozens of Timothy McVeighs to be trotted out in the media. Expect the Liberty Movement's name to be buried in an avalanche of bullshit. Mark my words; it’s going to get much worse from here on.
And this is where I will add my warning.
Before the Bundy ranch became a possible battleground, I stated in my article “Real Americans Are Ready To Snap” that the liberty movement was going to draw a line in the sand over Bureau of Land Management abuses in Bunkerville, and I was right.
It seems to me that time is growing short. As tyrants become more bold, so too must the citizenry; otherwise, we shrivel up and die. We cannot allow the movement's momentum to be shattered and driven underground as the militia movement was after Oklahoma City. We know what is coming, and we must drive forward. We know we will be labeled as terrorists and villains, and ultimately, we must realize that such eventualities do not matter. The Liberty Movement is not going away. In fact, future clashes with our criminal government are only going to become more frequent.
The next family threatened, the next activist individual or group arrested or black-bagged without legitimate cause, the next major false flag, the next use of military forces as civil law enforcement, the next unConstitutional misstep, and I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that a revolt will erupt. It’s not about making grand predictions; it’s about examining the logical odds, and the odds are high. The knowledge that the establishment is considering using the full force of its military apparatus against the people has not dissuaded anyone. Bundy ranch was a very near miss. I do not expect a peaceful resolution the next time around. I also do not expect the government as it exists now to stop clamoring for more control or less corruption. If recent events have proven anything, they have proven that a second American Revolution is inevitable; and all we can do is ready ourselves.
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If you are a statist then yeah, you should be frightened...
Aren't oligarchs the people who cause all this corruption and decline?
My guess is they will turn something loose that will wipe out a large percentage of the population while they hunker down in their bunkers (Raven Mountain in PA) or the Bush's in Paraguay even for a few centuries. They might even think they would survive to repopulate the planet after a major nuclear exchange (and the subsequent melt down of everyones nuclear plants) that contaminates the planet for a thousand years or more (yeah I know half-lifes of some of these isotopes is much longer than that). I really wouldn't put it past these meglomaniacs to think they could survive it. I already have thought about my target sets for a number of contingencies if the need arises.
"Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here."
Just to put that quote in context, that was made several hundred years ago.
Today, if you want revolutionary change, that quote should be taken figuratively, not literally.
A case in point.
I work as an independent contractor for a government agency. I see a lot of stupid shit that happens.
For instance, say your agency wants to to build a new office. Well of course that requires a phone system.
Does that phone system in the new office building have to be compatible with the phone system which everyone else uses in the rest of the buildings?
The bid is for a phone system. Period.
It must have the same capabilities of the system in use elsewhere, but that's all it needs to do.
Unless someone with enough cajones steps up and says "Hey wait a min, this is completely stupid, we need a sole source bid" for this product.
And then the entrenched bureaucrats say "Well, document that reason and here a few 100 forms to fill out to prove it".
And oh, thanks for the info, but don't expect to get paid for doing the research. Because no one in our office feels like doing it.
After installation by the lowest bidder, it cost many 10's of thousands of dollars to make these different systems compatible.
And that's just for the phone system...
You wonder why your taxes are going up?
It's mostly because no one in the bureaucracy gives a shit about you or the taxes you pay.
So if you want a war, start at the local level.
Examine every thing they spend money on.
Ask why.
You don't need to be an expert, just use common sense, they surely do not.
In that vein (get local), I don't understand why the small towns citizens who pay for the local cops/gov don't say fuck you, You don't need a helicopter we only have 500 citizens. And NO, you can't get one given to you from the Fed for free. We don't authorize you to do that either.
One place this happened was in Maine, Local Food provider (ie small family farm) was gonna be shut down by the local health official, a huge number of the locals showed up and basically said, 'We trust their food, we don't care if it is a law, WE won't allow you to enforce it and close them down.
Watch out for the Raw Milk contingent of the Local/Real food movement.
They are the 'Black Panthers' of that movement.
Think about french using currency to feed themselves. Doors never opened. They died in starvation and froze to death, uh Russia invasion.
Who masterminded this war? Rothschild offspring they can pull up the same war circumstances under new taxpayers social media funded division.
Fuck off cunts. Don't believe me, I'll educate the stupid fucks watching your verizion TV material Bullshit commercial. AT&T is no different. Don't feel awkward in getting fucked by multiple customers multi core subsidiary dropped accounts
You might want to bring back the Mexican guy that you took out for media, for control.
Each M&A dries up for new profit, the only thing that will happen, Adelphia jail cell be available for your media controlled occupation.
Well down clicking imbalanced fuck. Tell ZH who run the Mexican media. Why amnesty will fall under US GOVERNMENT policies and propaganda and fleecing efforts. explain asswipe, it will be exposed with or without you .
I think far too many here on ZH build to Federales as 12 feet tall, incredibly smart, tough and well informed.
From what I have perceived of the GUV in action in the past they will quickly start stranggling on their own spit. Remeber we are dealing with several million nincompoops, whose solution to all problems is to form a committee to research said problem.
In my opinion, 100,000 (max) persons could conquer the western U.S. in less than a year tops. Milestones
I always respected Alex Jones for being unafraid to state the truth, hopeful he could get his message about corporate & TBTF influence over government mainstream.
When he appeared on Piers Morgan last year, I was sure he was finally going to get that chance.
I watched in horror, my heart sank as he did the exact opposite, portraying himself as psychotic, replete with saliva droplets flying from his mouth as he went as far as to histrionically imitate Piers's English accent.
He shut out any possiblility of being taken seriously on prime time TV, to anyone outside his regular listeners.
I VEHEMENTLY agree with the premise of this blog, our government is owned by an oligarchy, I also agree with Paul Craig Roberts, that it may come to some form of revolution.
But I see a lot of language in these comments that will prolong all efforts to get this message mainstream.
It may well come to "bloodshed", "violence" and "taking up arms", but most Americans will reject this incendiary language as extreme & fanatical, which means they see the message itself as such.
The message isn't fanatical or extreme, it's the truth, and it has to be told in a way that will be listened to.
We need another Teddy Roosevelt, not a Quintin Tarrantino movie.
If you want to 'Get the Message Out' do it on a personal level.
Write www.ZeroHedge.com on the borders of all your folding money.
Print articles like this one or Paul Craig Roberts (etc) and just happen to leave them on the table or counter at starbucs or diner/restaurant every time you visit one. Or secretly just leave them on the table at the gym or public place.
You wouldn't believe how those simple acts multiply and amplify.
Samsara, I hesitate to say it, but it's more than likely that PCR is a gatekeeper. Ron Paul and Alex Jones... Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter... Mark Levin and Sean Hannity... I could add to this list 'til I get all the way down to Michael Savage or Karl Rove or James Carville. Gatekeepers.
They try and judge how far down the rabbit hole you are willing to go, and they provide a convenient path for you. They provide the opportunity for you to think that you are privy to the straight dope.
I'm not dissin' on you. The truth is that at this point in my life, I care not if I arise tomorrow. I have no agenda.
Don't get me wrong- I credit Dr. Paul as a catalyst along my path- but he got me started on a journey that brought me to him, then right on past him and onto another place. Hate me if you wish, but Dr. Paul is just another gatekeeper.
Would someone like to refute me in actual words rather than junks?
I had a first time MRI before being released today. Healthy as an axe. Never heard such a noise. Realized, may have listened to a Alex Jones show. I post shit on zerohedge. never ask for a dollar revenue.
I don't sell doom products to fund a radio station, don't have one. My postings are to help other people. I don't sell products to sell fear. I post ideas to cultivate present collectivism fucked up ideas. Look in the mail mirror Alex Jones. Once you become a MSNBC mut. The gig is outdated
Good luck to you. Again, your voice is a MRI jackhammer too me.
Great good luck, wish you well.
" ...collectivism fucked up ideas."
In my own state of heightened apprehension, the words "collectivism" & "socialism" appear to be thrown around a lot lately.
If the poor or middle class want a fair share of the economic growth, disagree with global free trade policies, want higher wages, or rule of law that unravels what's been done over recent decades to the benefit of 0.1%, it seems that certain MSM sources use words like "socialism" and collectivism".
We then engage in angry accusation & insult of eachother, rather than band together for what's obviously a MUCH BIGGER mutual cause.
Ask yourself, why is the left so consumed with gay rights, while the right is so worked up over gun rights when there is a MUCH bigger common problem we all agree on?
Are we being played?
Is it that easy to toss out tablescraps of contempt for us to bludgeon eachother, to take out attention off the real problem?
The US domestic infrastructure is so dilapidated that every electrical blackout, aircraft crash, bridge collapse, rail accident, reactor meltdown, etc... that could plausibly be blamed on militants and militias, will be.
The crony-capitalists and their political minions will suck the muppets dry and the muppets will be cheering them on in the process. The muppets will endure all privations and restrictions, anything to keep them "safe" from the alleged monsters who believe in founding principles of the American republic and the US Constitution.
Personally, I think economic reality is going to inflict far more damage on the crony-capitalists and their political support structure than any large scale domestic military campaign.
After economic reality sets in and the muppets realize that they are cold and hungry regardless of the propaganda telling them otherwise - winning a revolution would still be ugly, but doable.
However, once the war is won - the real battle for the future will begin. We have multiple generations of moochers and incompetents who think they are the "exceptional people".
Successfully changing that mindset will be the real victory.
Consider the following line of reasoning (open to all criticism):
Corporations have been known to turn a blind eye to slavery - in many less-developed parts of the world (Bangladesh, Burma, India, Africa, Indo, the list is long) where they buy or manufacture the products they sell to those parts of the globe which have money.
Corporations have been known to hire lobbyists to influence government decisions. This has happened on a grand scale in Washington, DC (and the capitals of every nation on the planet). So much so, one might make a good argument that corporations now own the US and European governments outright.
Given that slaves are cheaper to work than the sacred Middle Class (an invention of the Industrial Age), who is to say that the corporate agenda doesn't include driving the developed world's population back into slavery?
editorial:
Human rights are a recent thing in human history - maybe just a flash in the pan. Gathering momentum for that idea requires a serious commitment to not supporting companies and governments that do business with slavers. It means paying more for some things, and spending your money where you live, in support of your community. It means producing a widget in your town that you can sell to another town somewhere else (foreign exchange enrichment). It means removing bad cops, judges, and bureaucrats from positions of power and replacing them with fair-minded, educated persons (the electoral process, invented by the Vikings). It also means, my fearless haters of the Left, that you have to give up the idea that your country only belongs to you. It belongs to anyone and everyone who fights for it, whether you agree with their philosophies or not.
No, I think they are wanting to go back to Pre-French Rev. Feudal format.
We have to reform the Articles of Incorporation. The goal would to have both Congress & Corporations take responsibility for investigating the use of slavery either in the USA or Overseas. If they are incorporated in the USA, then there has to be some rules and consequences. If they systematically reduce benefits of workers and systemically lay off American Workers. This maybe a burden on the Social Benefit Programs and should be address. If Private Executives grant themselves huge perks, brand new offices, brand new furniture, huge pensions, huge options, huge bonuses, dividends, deferred wages placed in trust funds to be invested... If they Drive the Overhead of a Corporation to absurd levels, then call it "Looting" and have the Ratings agencies lower ratings for the Financial Products.
If you use slave labor or loot corporations, then there should be discovery and consequences.
it will never happen. this kind of talk is all smoke and mirrors. hold out hope. people are no longer buying it
Spumoni, bar none, the best way to assure that continued enslavement is to divide and conquer.
I see no coincidence that politics have become so extremely polarized in the past five years,
keep us berating and arguing eachother over petty ideological differences, too preocupied to go after them.
Heinlein wrote an interesting book that indulges the topic, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, many years ago. Still relevant. Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson co-wrote some highly amusing fluff back in the '70's as well that dissected the entire psy-ops philosophies of the time. Not sure that the MO has changed all that much.
Maybe the polar opposites should just meditate on a standard industrial magnet for awhile: every one of them has two opposing poles, and without each, there is no magnet, no vector, no energy whatsoever. The only aggression possible is when you put two poles with the same polarity in proximity to each other. Its a bit like ZH - a lot of the commenters here (and you know who you are) hate anything that isn't them, but they wouldn't exist without it. I keep hoping that some constructive dialog will develop here, but mostly its just more shout and hate. Which gives rise to the notion that the Tylers have been body-snatched and this blog only still exists to flush out and identify 'domestic' problem-people.
Have a great day, Frilton! The planet is STILL a garden, no matter what stupid people are doing. They'll be gone (and likely us too) long before the planet is.
"keep us berating and arguing eachother over petty ideological differences, too preocupied to go after them."
Sure, there is much misdirection and distraction, but who gets to decide which ideological differences are petty? Perhaps the real underlying problem is assuming millions of differently-shaped square pegs can all be top-down force-fit into the same round hole, and that there MUST be agreement. Unanimity is no holy grail. No idea is too dumb or atrocious for the collective masses to enthusiastically get behind.
I assure you that some of the ideological differences in this country are not only very real, but irreconcilable. Ever wonder why it takes so much in the way of force, fraud and mythology to keep this whole disparate freak show from spinning apart? Let it spin apart I say. It was unnatural to begin with, as most empires are. Let's split apart in as many different ways as are required to get out of each other's hair and pockets, (re) learn to mind our own business, and rebuild from the bottom-up in thousands of different, creative (and not so creative) ways. Agreements and alliances will form naturally. So will differences, which should be respected.
"...but who gets to decide which ideological differences are petty"
When Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have made an everyday point of talking about corporations, banks, Wall St and the wealthy controlling our government, I then hear the same language from the far right when Canter lost his election....
I wonder how it's possible there hasn't been more unification against that single most important cause?
It's because we've been browbeaten with "divide and conquer" strategy of distractive political divisiveness.
I say it's intentional.
Relative to the topic of unconstitutional control over government via bribery, I say ALL else is petty in the face of the far greater threat of money in politics.
One the biggest voices against money in politics on the right, Buddy Roemer, was completely silenced.
We can keep investing time fighting over teachers unions, background checks, entitlements, gay rights and any of the long list of lesser differences and keep ignoring what's going on with money in politics, and we'll keep seeing nothing done about the bigger problem.
To that, yes, they are "petty" in comparison.
The enemies of the Liberty Movement have been prepared for violence for too long for it to be of much use to us beyond a contingency.
the specifics of this are for you, FUCKING NSA**, to learn when its too late for your owners to do anything about.
**we at yes questions know that you have your choice of targets so if there is anything we can provide to make your spying moar pleasant, just take it**
How do you beat your enemy? By doing what he doesn't expect. He's prepared for violence? (Yeah, no kidding) Then some other way must be found. We need some hobbits, a wizard, and oh....maybe another planet. Or something that all of the Violent want SOOOOOObad that they will devour each other trying to win it. When the last man is standing, he'll be easy to take out (well, maybe).
We need some hobbits, a wizard..
Now your talking.
and some dragons too.
I want my own personal Ballhog...er, make that Balrog.
Brandon, I'm gonna go back and read the article, I promise- but I gotta comment on the headline first. That is to say; Just America? Naw, dude. This time it's gonna be worldwide.
Wall to Wall and Deep
True dat, but what we should be doing is pointing and laughing at these so-called 'leaders'. If the rest of the world is not pointing and laughing- especially at America, I'm at a loss to explain why. We don't need to fight, to prove what's right- kinda sorta what Roger said in Baba O'Riley.
Yes people are getting mad with algorithmic formulas denying access. The wealthy don't have to deal with the obsessive "scoring" that is happening to the rest of us in the US. The World privacy report was pretty good on this topic.
The one area they all skate away from though is that more scoring of consumers creates more data for sale, so is is any wonder that inequality has accelerated as scoring denies or gives access from a server running 24/7 and people can't fight or see that server not the proprietary code that is doing the scoring. The code by the way, that's created by humans.
The True Dangers With Corporate Obsessive Algorithmic Scoring of US Consumers - It Creates More Flawed Data For Sale And Makes Banks and Companies Wealthier As the Pace of Inequality Accelerates …
Every day moves us closer to the time that the call will go out to, "alarm and muster”. It will be in defense of the Constitution.
I believe the general thrust of your article is correct.
"I do not expect a peaceful resolution the next time around. I also do not expect the government as it exists now to stop clamoring for more control or less corruption. If recent events have proven anything, they have proven that a second American Revolution is inevitable"
Undoubtedly you are correct. However, I believe most folks have a mental bias which prevents them seeing the possible scope of expression. We think that people mostly act the same. In general they do. However, the variations for individual points in time, individual approaches, and singular paths through history are many. Simply because we have no personal knowledge of it ever happening a particular way does not mean that it cannot. This revolution may include some little seen variations on rebellion and revolution.
You believe and state, :
Whether the beliefs of the attackers in Las Vegas were actually liberty movement-oriented or not is ultimately irrelevant. To shoot random police and civilians and then commit suicide is an act of pure insanity, a product of mental instability that has nothing to do with political philosophy, and mental instability trumps belief and association anytime.
You could not be more wrong or more limited in the scope of your thinking. I grew up in Los Angeles. I worked as a young white boy in Watts, a predominately black area of the city. I have seen and experienced things that would shock many; enough so that the Las Vegas incident didn’t even cause a raised eyebrow. I am no longer young, however, I think you are out of touch with youth and their thought processes. You are not seeing the world through their eyes.
I have shared with my wife (a country born and raised girl) that these things are but cracks in the plaster. Cracks in the plaster, of the walls of a house, are symptomatic of problems with the foundation. Possibly life threatening. If not immediately life threatening. then indications that if the foundation is not repaired, given enough time, the house will crumble.
Did you not watch the online video of the young man involved in the shooting? Have you not listened to conversations going on in America today? That young man was not insane, he was hopelessly frustrated. There are many more like him. He did not kill random police officers. He specifically targeted agents of the government. The walmart civilian was not the intended target.
We have put millions of kids through a mind numbing educational system. We have hamstrung millions of them with debt they can never get out of. Then we passed special rules for them saying they cannot use the same bankruptcy courts that the rest of society uses to escape onerous debt.
We have wrecked the economy, shipped most of the functional jobs out of the country, and left most of them huddling in their parents basements. We have jailed hundreds of thousands more for merely smoking weed.
Do you honestly believe that this is the end of the story?
America’s trampled youth are not like those in Greece, Spain, Russia, or anywhere else in the world. They are the great great great grandkids of the forefathers of this once great country. Do not expect them to take this laying down.
If you think these kids are insane, irrelevant, or a product of mental instability that has nothing to do with political philosophy, you are dead wrong.
They look around and see the evil corruption flowing through every level of government. They are frustrated and know that gov has all the firepower. They are not stupid. Fortunately for them, the forefathers left them an out. They can and will individually take up arms. They are not stupid enough to try to storm the Whitehouse. But guess what, there are only about 20 million .gov employees. There are about 20 million youth (16-25) and half of them are unemployed. They can start at the bottom, right where they are, go to the local diner and terminate with extreme prejudice two or more militia/police. You will never see them coming. Trust me, they are not worried about fighting honorably. After all, they have seen that most adults have no honor; especially those in the government. They certainly have not been treated with honor. They have had their future stolen from them. They can figure this out on their own.
Think that is a dumb plan? Not much dumber than heaping 25 trillion dollars of debt on their shoulders. Money you have already frittered away. Point is, this revolution may play out in an unexpected way. One thing you can be sure of, as they see that government employees can be killed, there will be more of them attempt this. Further, if you think people will not suicide for a cause, you haven’t been paying attention
Ever been attacked by Killer Bees? You are many many times their size. You think you have all the power and you are invincible. The bees attack, each carrying out its own individual attack plan. Many will die, this does not stop them. Although they are just a bunch of unorganized crazy little bees, they can kill you.
No, this revolution won't be army to army. Dot Govs gotta eat somewhere. Donuts may be their downfall.
a must read!
An incredibly insightful , and thought provoking post KPrime.
Please post more often.
Standing and Clapping.
+1. Outstanding.
"...the American people have become active participants in their own national environment once again. "
No. A tiny minority have. Very tiny.
It is hard to gauge,but really I think almost everyone is seeing through the veil.The only ones who believe the MSM and 0zero are upper middle class white people and 0nothing has reduced their numbers. It's going to get messy as the 0ligarchs steal the copper off the pipes.
My question is-where is all the money they have stolen?!? At least 100 trillion has been stolen.Someone said the clintons have a worth of $100 million-I just laughed and said change the m to a b and you will be close.
All transactions lead to Rockefeller, Rothchilds, et al. A few cents from every transaction.
Please leave the Rockefeller's out of this mess. Thank you
Advice to all: If you are going to be in a fight, throw the first punch. Don't wait!
How to apply: Before you are called a right wing extremist, fire first. Whenever any political topic comes up, start with "Left wing extremists have taken over the Democratic Party!" "We are now operating under a centrally planned soviet style economy." You are a communist" "You are a left wing radical." Educate yourself and expand as you see fit.
If you feel uncomfortable with this style of direct confrontation, go back to living under the thumb of these bastards and stop complaining. These communists radicals refer to you as radicals, women haters, racists, you hate seniors, all the normal bullshit. Immediately you have to be on the defensive. No more of that. Time to take the gloves off.
Amateurs study tactictics but professionals study logistics....
The breakdown is coming without a doubt but people think there'll be a gigantic battle are wrong.
The great advantage America has always had was safe lines of communications (lines of supply). This time the advesary the government will be facing will be inside of their supply lines. There will be a few stand up battles but it will be mostly low intensity conflict with a good part of it being disruption of supply and things like electricity and water.
First America's true backbone is our rail system. We moving over 80% of all commodities by rail, corn and wheat are but two examples and when people start pulling up tracks and ties then setting them on fire to kill the temper of the steel and when the crews come out to repair/replace the tracks they get shot at, not shot but shot at. This means that the crews will have to have protection which can be engaged or not depending on conditions and meanwhile more tracks are being torn up 100 miles away. The gold standard for fucking up the rail system is causing a major wreck/pileup in the Chicago rail yards where the vast majority of cross country rail traffic goes through.
What about trucks? Not anymore trouble than trains. First you shoot at the trucks, the drivers not likely to be happy and will refuse to drive. So it's convoy time and will take a huge number of trucks to keep anything like reasonable amount of supplies flowing to the cities in the northeast corridor and now they have to be convoyed. If only light escort force are used the escort forces are attacked and suppressed, all the truck drivers are told they're gonna be walking and set the trucks on fire. Heavy escorts the trucks can still be engaged at range and have their tires shot out. A half dozen trucks not moving means the convoy quits moving till the tires get fixed, trucks that get abandoned get burnt. Lastly even a few bridges going down over even small water crossings makes that road at least temporarily unusable which chokes everything down to few roads which slows things down even more.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, the targets are the big cities where most of the government support lives, first you starve them then you take away their lights and water, both soft targets and wait for the fun. Los Angeles will be real fun since the enviro-nuts have legislated their utilities out of state water and power will be easy and they are so spoiled on the west coast they'll riot quickly.
These are just a few of the fun and games to be played, there are other things that could be potentially much nastier but I'll leave those to your imagination.
Knuckle-dragger nailed it.
Yet another super-genius who cannot spell. You have obviously played a lot of video games, dragger. The panoramic scope of your , ah, strategy is breathtaking! Only thing is, with all those "ifs" and "what abouts" in your little rant, maybe you ought to study a little 'tactictics'. You're gonna need them. Oh, my brigade will not be providing air or artillery support for your band. Civilian casualties are to be kept to a minimum. People like yourself go on and on about how 'Gubmint' declares us all to be collateral damage, but you're no different. YOU are the problem. You are the terrorist.
I will just spend my imagination thinking about what we're (us city folk, that is) going to do to you and your merry band of idiots when we find you out on the highway fucking with truckers - and the infrastructure that WE need too, asshole. Get a fucking job.
Nice, you have no arguement so you belittle and degrade the person making the point. I studied tactics back in the 70's at Texas A&M on a ROTC scholarship and during my active duty time I spent a tour at the five sided puzzle palace in planning and operations thinking things like this up. Artillery is range limited And air support requires a lot of fuel and ground support which will be disrupted. You also apparently never bothered to notice that my scenario minimizes casualities and long term damage to the infrastructure. Finally, yep I'm a terrorist and your a butt weasel who is waiting for the new overlords to tell you what to do and think, Orwell would be proud.
DeusHedge: "Oh please, the sheeple stingy silent majority will use these in two seconds. Right?"
"Waiting for a leader" Is synonymous with "I have no balls."
You're just not pissed off enough. You'll know when it's time. And there won't be a leader around to direct you, sheep.
just kill each other until no remain, then rest of world will leave in peace.
americans are the most dangerous virus on the planet.
you're right - better to have the Russians and their gulags running things.
no wait, better to have the Chinese running things - they only slaughtered 60M of their own
no wait, how about the Spanish - they're good at erasing entire societes (Mayans, Aztecs, etc)
no wait, how about Germany - oops, we know how that goes
no wait, how about Italy - they do what the Germans do
no wait, how about the French - they have dictators who do what the Germans do without the automation
uh, that won't work well either.
any ideas?
Gene replacement therapy. Get rid of the urge to violence.
OG, all your examples are correct. But the USG is NO different, except that maybe it is the most dangerous.
Government is the most dangerous virus on the planet.
Burn the FED ! And you will get some friend, US are so alone now ...
As infuriating as the current regime and their lawlessness is, a violent uprising is just what they need to crush opposition and enact martial law.
The only way is peaceful, non-violent resistance in the model of MLK and the civil rights marches.
"As infuriating as the current regime and their lawlessness is, a violent uprising is just what they need to crush opposition and enact martial law."
A spastic overreaction by government is in some respects beneficial. The more the smiley clown mask slips, the more people see the true gorilla face of government, which will turn more against the government (as long as the "violent uprising" is directed with the info. war in mind) ... which will spawn more violent incidents and uprisings... which will begat more spastic overreactions by .gov. Rinse, repeat.
no revolution just depressed economy... if the ussa people didnt revolt during the depression they aren't going to revolt now.... especially since 1/2 have no skin in the game... however there could be a military coup... more likely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_OpFxCx-A
With William Wallace Up
Against William Wallace Down
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-c...
Interesting perspective from a former Navy SEAL about the "coming unpleasantness"...!
http://www.maingun.biz/Patriot_Plate_s/2003.htm
Maybe time to add another precious metal to the gold, silver, copper jacketed lead, AR-500 steel plates??
I wouldn't want to hump that around even carrying a light tactical load.
I think that technically the 2nd revolution already happened and the fascists won. So we're really talking about the counter-revolution.
Don't forget the Times Square bomber, also initially blamed on a right wing nut by none other than the mayor himself.
Yeah...I'm fine with being ready to protect yourself, that's every individual's responsibility no matter who come knocking with bad intentions. But writers like Smith bug me at least because they seem to completely overstate the power of centralized government/corporations (same thing) right now. I just don't see how they miss it. Things were chugging along nicely for the corporatists for decades and decades...they really didn't have to pass a bunch of laws to fear people in to line for a long time. The "NEWS" kept everyone complacent and the reserve currency allowed previous generations to have stuff they never worked for...stealing the labor of people not born yet...it was grand times for everyone. But greedy people end up cannibalizing each other and debt fueled economic systems eventually collapse.
The fear mongers around today overstate the control elites have right now...and they WAY OVERSTATE their management of events that occur. If you understand history you can see that the statist over-reactions we are seeing with these draconian laws and their constant attempts to demonize all critics reflect an incredibly weak centralized power structure. Are they dangerous because they have wounded themselves? YEP! But they are losing more and more control by the day. If they weren't concerned that they couldn't control the narrative of a new 9-11 they would have done it already. THEY ARE SCARED!! Don't let paranoid people scare you instead. I'm not going to be anyone's martyr...that role is way too romanticized.
We have the upper hand...we have the credibility...not because "WE ARE THE LIBERTY MOVEMENT". That smacks of hubris and narcissism. It's because we are your neighbors...your friends...your family...etc etc. I'm not sure what the hell the LIBERTY MOVEMENT really is..and I'm more a Marx(ist)...a GROUCHO MARX(IST)...and as he so apply said, "I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member."
We will all be more credible if we listen as much as we speak...don't pound people over the head with "INFORMATION". Get to know people and then they will listen to you more...and it's important because for one, they have useful information too if you think critically enough about what they are saying, and (2) you know how to spoon feed them a little bit so they come to similar conclusion in the end. It goes down much better that way. Let them take credit for your analysis every once in a while...what do you care if it helps you in the end. This is a prom election or something serious like that ;-)
Time is really on our side...as much as it doesn't seem that way. The elites have lost control of information and that is their ultimate downfall...and as the previous three communication transformations have shown, massive social, economic and political upheavals are coming. No false flag will stop these changes or save their legitimacy because this stuff is like natural law (like gravity).
Letting the elites shred each other up is as good of a strategy as "taking a stand" every time them poke at us. I think it's a better one. The central systems are like King Kong hanging off that skyscraper right now...being riddled with proverbial bullets shredding their legitimacy. It's falling...you know it's falling...just surround yourself with friends and family, prepare some, try to enjoy being alive still, and try and stand far enough away that it doesn't land on you when it crashes.
Anyone who tries to put a positive spin on the Bundy event suffers from some of the mental instability the author talks about. What we have is a free loading welfare recipient who doesn't want to pay his bills. Period. End of story.