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Gruesome Footage Of ISIS Atrocities Reveals Al Qaeda Jihadists "Will Stop At Nothing"
Judging by the gruesome propaganda video being released by ISIS, it is no wonder the Iraqi soldiers and police stripped off uniforms and ran... As The Daily Mail reports, blood-thirsty jihadists are carrying out summary executions on civilians, Iraqi soldiers and police officers - including 17 in one street alone - on their warpath to Baghdad, the UN said today. As a shocking picture of the ISIS insurgency continues to develop, the Islamist group are posting barbaric videos online with the intent of showing the world they will stop at nothing to achieve their end game. The aim is to terrorise Sunnis in Iraq's army and police forces and deepen their already low morale. It appears to be working as that fear is one factor behind the stunning collapse of Iraqi security forces.
Via The Daily Mail,
In one, which is too graphic to publish, fighters are seen knocking on the door of a Sunni police major in the dead of night.
When he answers, they blindfold and cuff him. Then they carve off his head with a knife in his own bedroom as sweetly lilting religious hymns are played over the top.
Shock and awe: An ISIS propaganda video shows militants blindfolding a Sunni police major in his home before cutting off his head
Shocking: Footage reportedly taken by ISIS militants shows Islamist fighters randomly shooting pedestrians and motorists as they take over towns and cities in Iraq
Armed with a machine-gun, the gang film themselves shooting cars off the road then move in to video close-ups of the victims' blood-stained bodies slumped in the seats. In another clip, they gun down a pedestrian.
Video of the civilian killings
Sabre-rattling: An Islamic militant issues a call to arms, saying: 'Declare Allah the Greatest! Allah is the Greatest!' in a video released by ISIS
An explosion as militants of ISIS allegedly seize an Iraqi army checkpoint in the northern Iraqi province of Salahuddin
A man is executed in a propaganda video released this morning by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant as the Al Qaeda-inspired militants continue their march towards Baghdad
ISIS Propaganda video... (gruseome)
and the full uncensored compilation of horror...
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Is anyone responsible for what they do, who they murder, except Bush? Why are we excusing these murderous fucks by suggesting they are puppets of anyone. What the fuck!
Who will you kill and then claim it wasn't your fault, the government was piping evil messages directly into your brain?
bull shit-- the dark ages came about because the temp dropped and crops failed--lasted for the length of the minnie ice age. Simple is the best answer---didn't happen because of politics or religion or anything humans could effect--it was just cold ----
Aaaand that made for a golden age for Arabs, whose climate suddenly was a lot more conducive to flourishing.
Mini Ice Age was actually from 1550-1750.
So before that was a warming period. Was good for the Vikings, Russians (we remember them as Mongols), etc.
Krakatoa blew up in about 500 something AD causing a few summers without a summer, worldwide. Both cats and rats populations plummeted, but rats came back much faster, and spread plague very effectively among the decimated weakened human population. You can look it up, as to the exact dates. History went pretty dark from that point. Nice intro to the dark ages.
Yep, I'm sure "climate change" ushered in the dawn of the Middle Ages. What the fuck ?
The history channel is formal about about this.
Banzai Buck
Moral Relativism cuts both ways. But I suggest comparing the Old Testament with the Koran. Same fear-based superstition. Mohamed shamelessly helped himself to the Jewish dogma.
Christianity famously has a shit ton more to do with the New Testament. But we take your point. NOT
Coughs 'Book of Joshua".
There IS a religious group that emphasizes the Old Testament and not the new. And, yes, they are quite militant.
Thesis = ahistorical crock.
Btw if it weren't for the Abbasid Sultans - who themselves were descended from Mohammed's uncle - who encouraged the translation of Greek and Indian works (where do you think Algebra comes from? Hint: It's an arabic word) European scholars wouldn't have recieved the classical literature to re-boot european civilization with the renaissance. Anyone interested in the Greco-Arabic translation movement in Baghdad - rather apt that now western financed takfiris are now marching on that formerly great city - I recomend a book by Dimitri Gutas called "Greek thought, Arabic culture". In fact in the 11th to 13th century it were the muslims that were more civilized then the aquaphobic christians of europe.
It wasn't the muslims of the Middle East that led to the Renaissance but the significant minorities such as Greeks, Jews,Copts,Armenians etc who provided much of the civil administration under their Mamluke, Ottoman etc military masters and their contacts with the various crusades got Europe out of the depths of the Dark Ages.
The fall of Constantinople in 1453 also caused many highly educated people to flee to the West and that marked the true start of the Renaissance.
As has been documented by a number of scholars, the role of the Middle East's Greeks, Jews, and Coptic, Armenian and Assyrian Christians in the preservation and extension of learning in the post-Classical world was crucial. The more homogenously Muslim this world became over time, the more mired in fatalism, superstition and bloodshed it became.
The fact that texts written in Arabic were influential in re-lighting the intellectual lamps of Europe does not at all mean that "Islam" was in any meaningful way a font of learning.
"The more homogenously Muslim this world became over time, the more mired in fatalism, superstition and bloodshed it became"
Those historians who've studied the Abbasid period point out that the same time time mass conversions Islam occured was also the same period in which there was also an intellectual flourishing.
"The fact that texts written in Arabic were influential in re-lighting the intellectual lamps of Europe does not at all mean that "Islam" was in any meaningful way a font of learning."
Incorrect: The Abbasid Sultans actively financed both research into the classical greek literature as well as financing Islamic scholarship at the same time as a means of legitimising their rule. The fact that orthodox Sunni Islam emerged from this period is a testimony of this fact. One can highlight this interconnectedness by the supposedly apocrophal tradition of how algebra emerged (ie. Islamic laws on inheritance deals with alot of fractions, the invention of algebra assisted Islamic scholar in solving inheritance issues).
My take is that the positives of "Islamic history" were due to the establishment of a unified administration/state (the Caliphate) which functioned as a huge area of free trade, with an Arablic lingua franca (if you'll pardon the phrase) which facilitated the free exchange of information among large numbers of people, of varying ethnicity, experience and opinion.
And the more homogenously Muslim the Middle East became, the more mired in fatalism, superstition and bloodshed it became. What was once a flourishinng civilization became a backwater... and it remains a backwater. With the possible exception of the (non Middle Eastern) Turks and Persians, do the facts show otherwise?
Thesis = ahistorical crock.
Btw if it weren't for the Abbasid Sultans - who themselves were descended from Mohammed's uncle - who encouraged the translation of Greek and Indian works (where do you think Algebra comes from? Hint: It's an arabic word) European scholars wouldn't have recieved the classical literature to re-boot european civilization with the renaissance. Anyone interested in the Greco-Arabic translation movement in Baghdad - rather apt that now western financed takfiris are now marching on that formerly great city - I recomend a book by Dimitri Gutas called "Greek thought, Arabic culture". In fact in the 11th to 13th century it were the muslims that were more civilized then the aquaphobic christians of europe.
This is an 'american' world and an US world order.
Propagandists would write anything that might seduce the 'american' middle class.
In an 'american' society, the clearest and easiest path to wealth and power is by serving the 'american' middle class.
This is how you get rich and powerful in an 'american' society.
The classical world demise was induced by Muslims? The classical world was ended before the start of Islam.
The holy war thing? It is a mere extension of the concept of just wars that Christians introduced in order to solve the contradiction between being a Christian and a soldier.
Etc...
But anything does that pleases the 'american' middle class. Anything that is fantasy, that is.
but, morals are relative...
If it wasn't religion it would be for something else equally as passionate. The ego will always project upon the outside world what it hates, and refuses to see, of its self. All that is needed is some form of idolatry, a mythology thrown in to back it up, and a strong sense of tribalism (ala, us & them).
Spoken like a tru dhimmi. Nice Tu Quoque argument from an unbiased website no doubt. The reason why death and destruction has followed islam for 1300 years is because it is written and commanded in their book which it appears that you still have not read.
“A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.”
C.S. Lewis
For godless people to oppose Christianity is to assist the multiculturalist Socialists in their quest to extinguish freedom in America. And make no mistake, from the current president of the United States, to the Congress, to the Supreme Court, to the Federal Reserve, the leading themes have been socialist one worldism to undermine American principles of individual freedom and to incorporate American into a socialist “one world.”
Christianity was the key foundation to the formation of America. the greatest citadel for freedom in history. When America's Christianity is gone, America's freedom will be gone.
As for the work of the godless neocons:
"US aggression against Iraq has led to the 'mother of all battles.' Saddam Hussein was right." Article by Eric Margolis: Iraq Blows Wide Open
LewRockwell.com. June 14, 2014 (exerpt)
“Israel emerged as the sole strategic victor of the Bush/Cheney war against Iraq. That war, so far, has cost the US 4,500 soldiers killed, 35,700 wounded, 45,000 sick and over $1 trillion. Iraq lies in ruins, likely shattered beyond all attempts to put it back together. No senior American or British official has faced trial for this disastrous, trumped-up war.
“Nuri Maliki has totally excluded Sunnis from power in Iraq, and uses brutal secret police and torture to repress them. Small wonder he faces a major uprising. Iraq’s oil-based economy remains in ruins. Many Iraqis believe their now wretched nation was far better off under Saddam Hussein, as brutal and clumsy as he was.
“Interestingly, efforts by ISIS to forge an Islamic state in a merged Syria and Iraq is one of the first major challenges to the foul Sykes-Picot agreement of 1916 under which the British and French Empires secretly colluded to divide up the moribund Ottoman Empire’s Mideast domains. Today’s artificial Mideast borders were drawn by the Anglo-French imperialists to impose their rule on the region. Iraq and Syria were the most egregious examples.
“ISIS appears set on erasing the British-French borders and re-creating the unified Ottoman province (Turkish: vilyat) of Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. In the West, the neocon-dominated commentariat calls ISIS terrorists. In the Mideast, many see them as anti-colonial fighters struggling to reunite the Arab world sundered and splintered by the western powers. The western powers are now preparing to strike back.” – Eric Margolis
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/06/eric-margolis/saddam-hussein-was-right/
Freedom in America has always been for the privileged few... a part of the American Dream. Racial and religious minorities had no more or less freedom than in most nations but Americans were good at propaganda. Sure there were spurts of opportunity to own land that was not possible in "homelands" but that was due to the genocide and forced removal of previous populations (who certainly had more freedom prior to the American government showing up and imposing freedom upon them).
America has always been a fascist state. Always. What is changing now is the status of who gets to be privileged. Many who were in the privileged group are falling (or being forced) out and are starting to complain about the abuses of the American State that were always there, just not used against you.
Read Howard Zinn, know your nation, it is not what you thought.
The second part of your statement was interesting, and no doubt true in many ways.
"Politicians have always used religion as a tool."
And the religions have always sought to use politicians/government for their goals.
Human behavior/hubris... We make up all kinds of shit to deceive- it's what nature does to survive...
Jesus, not a critical thinker are you? What do you think the Christians did to each other during the various wars in the late middle ages, or to jews and muslims in the crusades, or to the natives of the Americas?
You vapid twat, read the Old Testament - the Torah - there is more violence in there than in the Koran, but it gets a pass because why, you don't think Jews are violent? Read just a little about the terror used to found Israel and chase away the natives.
Every group of people can justify their violence with some "sacred text" - there are 1.2 billion muslims, a tiny, tiny fraction of whom engage in this sort of violent jihad.
Wake up and stop being such a simpleton.
+10 for the excellent use of Vapid...
You ignorant turd, if you knew the first thing about Christianity, you'd understand that the New Testament trumps the Old Testament. Try reading it sometime.
Really? Go to the supercessionism entry in wiki... think the Xian Zios and fake Christian Yeshua types tend to disagree.
I promise you Buck, not only am I better read than you, I've even read most of the bullshit fiction you've read and accept as fact.
And yet, I'm trying to help you, son. You've got potential - you're just misguided.
< Jesus was a Christian
< Jesus was Jewsih
Yikes!!! Another Christian believer that doesn't understand that Christianity IS a Jewish sect.
He should check out the Papal headgear sometime...
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65818000/jpg/_65818360_popee.jpg
that's odd, given that the word "Jew" didn't even exist until relatively recently... last I checked, Jesus was a Judean who spoke Aramaic.
Semantics and you know it.
Your choices are too limited, much like the American political system choices. How about another selection like "Jesus of Nazareth was a figment of Constantine's imagination that was modeled after Julius Caesar" perhaps.
Shhh, people don't like to know that their "sacred" texts were put together by powerful men in closed rooms deciding what the "truth" was going to be for everyone. I am sure they had the best interests of all involved when they finalized the "Word of God". We know that the political elite of the time didn't normally think of themselves as gods so, I am sure it was done with humility and honesty with no desire to use religion as a social control tool. These ancients were obviously too dumb to understand psychology and how to rule over vast stretches of territory and peoples, so there is no way that they could have understood the psychological role religion would play as a social control tool (and as an imperial expansion tool).
Nope, no way that could be true...
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4?BCE - 61CE)
jesus was a buddhist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY0Ib3aPG6Y
http://youtu.be/hM_zl2GIg44?t=57m42s
I see how well read you are...you get your vital information from "Wiki".... a non biased factual 8th wonder of the world is Wiki...
Are there specific points that you can actually debate, or is it sufficient to just use a broad brush to cover the messenger?
I'm still looking for the original version (New Testament)! All I can find is the plagered/morphed/made-up version...
...Matthew 5, 6, and 7 is a pretty good start.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=NIV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6&version=NIV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=NIV
Between the Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandants, all that needs be said, is.
All else is superfluous.
Well, there's sex and violence, incest, bestiality, and an entire chapter of sci-fi fantasy that's truly inspired, all almost Jules Verne level imagination of future tech, but over a dozen centuries removed from the action, ahead of time. Maybe skynet accidentally sent one back that far, and it got religion while trying to learn the language and religion of the time. Need a Dan Brown/Cameron mashup here.
Still looking......
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Damn Banzai, I had no idea you were such an unabashed bible banger.
You ignorant turd, if you knew the first thing about Christianity, you'd understand that the New Testament trumps the Old Testament. Try reading it sometime.
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Reading it? That is a dangerous piece of advice. By reading it, one might find words by Jesus that he did not wish the old being trumped by the new, that it was not there to impose a new, but to renew the old.
But, hey, anything goes for 'americans' as long as it is fantasy.
It get's a pass because the violence was used in a historical sense when Yawheh was still a god of a pantheon for the bene-yisrael. Violence was the way of life, and the biblical violence was committed by the worshippers of Yaweh vs Ashtoreth, who was also a Bene Yisrael Goddess. Same as it was done in all cultures of that time. During the Seleucid period, war and violence became increasingly abhorrent, since the land of Israel experienced virtually 300+ years of peace and prosperity under Egyptian Greeks and the other gods of the Pantheon faded away, even the name Yaweh was becoming less and less of use - replaced instead with an all powerful single God. The Torah and the Old Testament is mix of genres, and without proper context of what those genres are, it, like the New Testament, can come off as all wholefuly "a way of worship" rather than a "historical footnote".
You're absolutely right that any group can justify their violence based on a "sacred text". But that text doesn't have to be religious. 20th century was a great testament to "texts" that created violence.
thanks for the thoughtful reply. I accept what you're saying - but only to a point. Not everything we would tend to find racist/violent/xenophobic in the Torah is context/time dependent.
The "chosen people" mythos is itself xenophobic. Circumcision indicates this is an ethnic orientation, a contract for land based on behavior and ethnicity - an ethnicity mitochondrial DNA says is European for most Jews, btw.
Jewish metaphysics fetishizes Jews themselves... you don't get high ranking Christian or Muslim clerics saying that all non Christians were born only to serve, or Catholics or Germans claiming that their soul is of a higher order ontologically.... okay, the NAZIS did, but the same sort of spiritual chauvanism is absolutely baked in to Judaism - the evidence is staggering.
As to violence - 'amalek' is anyone who opposes Jewish action - even when its Jewish colonialism, terrorism, closed shops, megalomania, etc.
So, while the "time/space dependent" applies for *some* passages - the truth is moral solipsism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia and reification of Jews themselves as "the divine" is fundamental to the Jewish religion [which is not, please note, the same thing as saying all Jews believe this - but the more orthodox or fundamentalist - the more racist/xenophobic.
And by the way - the OT is largely myth.... written in to support the "specialness" and deed to land the Pharisees wanted.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
There is a shitload of plain exhortations to violence in the Koran, and no one accuses me of "hate" in some form for pointing it out. But its also true that 99.9% of them are not violent. Efforts to demonize Islam and Arabs flows in large part from Jewish, and Zionist interests.
Muslims committed last year alone 8,000 attacks, most of them upon civilians. You call good evil and the darkness light. I am not aware of Jews kiddnapping hundreds of children for death upon conversion, or murdering hundreds of villagers in Nigeria just in the past couple of weeks. There are literally tens of thousands of muslim attacks upon civilians in the name of Allah. You are a monster.
Sure, but did they do it from more than a mile away, in a sovereign nation on the other side of the globe, for profit, using chemical weapons, like the USA and Marilyn Hewson's company, Lockheed Martin, maker of the Hellfire missile? Or were they defending their homeland from foreign invaders?
A girl who was burned beyond recognition by a U.S. drone and left for dead in a trashcan is about to undergo reconstructive surgery.
All kinds of monsters in the world. Some even attack wedding parties.
No, the Jews just burn through little girl's skulls with white phosphorus shells...
HH- enjoy many of your posts and don't always agree which is why i love this forum to discuss these serious and horrifically depressing matters. It is very sad and tragic what has happened to this little girl and every other casualty of war through out time and history.
I would only like to ask you a few things. do you think that the muslims in those countries that we discuss extensively give one rats ass about that little girl? girls and women in islam are treated like and considered worse than dogs. They will stone you to death just after you have been gang raped because it was your fault that you were raped. India has this problem as well.
Do you think we should not do anything about the atrocities that are inflicted upon them or should we just let them practice their "culture"? That "culture" is responsible for that little girls condition in the fact that these cowards hide behind and will shoot at you while hold this same little girl knowing that we aren't as barbaric as them to shoot back. BTW a wedding party in pakistan is not as fun for the bride as it is for the groom i'm sure.
If we were such monsters would we then brings this little girl back to the USA to Texas for treatment of her burns free of charge?
War is hell and things go bad and then they can go really bad. But to use this photo to use as an emotional tool to forget the evil that has brought this little girl to the condition she is in today is qutie pathetic.
You are no troll, but this is troll worthy propaganda.
Human shields are used by the most cowardly of people and that is exactly what islam is. A religion of cowards who can only function by force and are so sexually insecure as to cover their women cuz they can't control themselves.
happy friday the 13th
I'll guess you're ok with having a priest cut the end off of every baby boy's penis, right? How is that any different?
They must have done yours wrong. I didn't lose even a 1/4".
Are you really going to use circumcision as a relative comparison? He is making some pretty strong points and your response is damn weak.
Maybe look at a drawing of the anatomy of the uncut female genitalia, versus the mutilated version. They remove a big fraction of the female nervous system, not just some relatively insensitive flap of skin. The circumcised male has his sensory systems left intact. Compare and.contrast.
female genital mutilation is not islamic. Its a tribal custom that predates islam. and is every bit as barbaric as circumcision... which, by the way, ever see an orthodox rabbi suck the blood of a baby's circumcised penis? Its a blood ritual, and i simply can't imagine much more horrific than that.
Female genital mutilation is correct. Circumcision is NOT mutilation: and, actually, there are studies that show reduced instances/levels of sexually transmitted diseases (like AIDS) with circumcision- it might not have been the intended purpose to start with, but...
No idea about the Rabbi thing: ugh, now I'll have that shit stuck in my brain for the rest of my life!
HH- It is a religious custom but not entirely of religious necessity. From what i understand, other than the religious practice, it is for hygiene purposes. it is a health issue to say the least but im not fond of the religious ceremonial aspect of it. are doctors who do this today a bunch of religious nutjobs?
Answer me this. Are you OK with mullahs and religious imams cutting of little girls cilttoris' and virginity checks?
That is a lot different than a religious custom or ceremony related to hygiene than it is to prevent a woman from having any pleasure stimulation cuz your religion despises women.
There is a world of difference. I'm just suprised someone as insightful as you are does not see that.
>>that these cowards hide behind and will shoot at you
your comment is ignorant to point of being offensive. Palestinian kids die because israel bombs their homes. they are packed into a giant open air prison with no where to run or hide. Nothing gives you the right to kill other human beings because you wrongly believe that your culture is more advanced their theirs. this world is sick. bomb them then treat their injuries? jesus, what is wrong with you freaks.
john 39- Please tell me when in combat that we not only hide in a building/mosque with women and children while still shooting at the enemy but saying that you can shoot back at us while in a mosque. the reasons why we are there are definitely debatable, but we do not hide behind women and children while shooting at the enemy while daring them to shoot back just so they can go before a CNN camera a say, "see, seee. this is what the infidels did". We shouldn't have to kill each other, but this is the world we live in. its what the culture that engages in these type of behaviors is what defines these type of societies.....that are guided by their religious belief.
Nothing wrong with me, but you on the other hand.....
i find it interesting how so called humans can find endless ways to try and justify murder, even of children. You think NATO or Israelis only bomb combantents eh? keep drinking the coolaid, or get off your ass and look for the truth of what is really happening in the world. beyond sad.
The Isrealis can handle 8000 attacks on Palestinian children in one night.
Atheism is the most violent religion in the history of the world....check a few 20th century leaders...You can look them up on "Wiki" I'm sure.
Atheism is not a religion ? It means an absence of religion ... or more specifically someone who doesn't mindlessly follow the words or dictates of thousand year old fairytales.
While it may be true that some of these leaders you refer to were atheists it is not an uncontested fact and is easily refutable in many cases. Just because religion was not their propaganda tool of choice does not mean they were not personally religious.
Genuine Atheists or Humanists are by definition far more peaceful. We think for ourselves, trust and feel our own humanity and don't butcher in the name of some "god" thinking we get a hall pass to the pearly gates for being a "true believer" or fighting for "the cause"
Atheism my not be as organized religion as most but it is a belief system that has organization. We see "representatives" debate often. They seem to hold common beliefs and associations, and a shared belief that there is no God, no heaven or hell. Personally I'm not sure about God, but the devil seems pretty much like a sure thing.
Liberalism is a religion as well, based on assumptions, many unproven, requiring faith in large quantities.
The danger is not so much religion but any organization that seeks power to enforce its ideology. Like what we have in America today.
Atheists often find one eternal thing to believe in: government. And governments kill by the millions and tens of millions, and oppress by the bill I one. Not all atheists, but most of them. They view the state as an ally in beating down unreason. The thing is, the state and its own end up as self dealing thugs. You chase out the sacred only at great risk.
Statists come in all forms, it is a human condition, not a religious one. You are trying to tell me that being religious is anti-statist? You just choose a different form of government. Atheist statists just wanted all the power, they didn't want to share with any other governments, this is why they banned religion, not because of any particular disagreement with religious structure. The Atheist statists to which you refer turned the state into a religion and their leaders in to gods. There is nothing particularly statist about that.
I am saying most, not all. Ayn Rand was an atheist, and not a statist. Etc. But most atheists in the USA are beholden to academia which is beholden to the eternal ubiquitous irreligious State.
I'm sure then that you can find some sacred atheist text that promotes the killing non-believers...
100% of the Muslims I know personally are pleasant, hardworking family men. Still, each one of them made the decision to leave his homeland, and relocate to a Christian, or post-Christian, country, presumably because such a society offered him better prospects in life than what his own society could produce, after 1000+ years of Islamic rule.
And I still believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Islam is one sub-par religion, with a very real bias toward violence.
Was it for the pursuit of money?
Back of the USD: In God We Trust. (which magically appeared in the 1950s [no, it didn't come across with the Mayflower] during the fascist days of Hoover).
A tiny group? There is warfare in every country where Muslims or Islam exists. Btw the radicals just so happen to lead and teach in the mosques to go kill the infidel to their audience. There is no tolerance for any other religion or belief and have never had a reformation unlike Christianity. Your view on this is a little different than the reality we are all living with today.
"There is warfare in every country where Muslims or Islam exists."
In the US too?
Anyway... would there also be US-backed interests in said countries?
It's the faith of the half Moon; the completely dark part. Indeed, it's a faith in darkness. Like in the Western world many have faith in the darkness of the fantasy of mr. Darwin as also the big bang madness.
Can things be any worse off under ISI than they have been under the American occupation? I wonder how much of the news we are hearing about them is just more bullshit to get us all fired up for another war? How does the execution of civilians differ when it is done by ISIS or Western mercenaries? I smell some serious bullshit in all of this.
your nose knows---
Sorry but these Religion - Political devils have been around a lot longer than 'Merica.
They are the pure evil and would do this to others of their own gutter political-religious cult.
HH, I watched the video and it was excellent...thanks for posting.
This is why they hate
9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Thank you for that great video.
hedgeless_horseman Wouldn't youtoo, if you were in their position?
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Leftist are always full of hate, yet preach tolerance on only their views. They are easily propagandized into the divisions of race and wealth. And sadly, to many on the right are trying to compete with that by acting the same way.
"...they hate us because they are simply full of hate."
You, Buckaroo, are the one who seems to be full of hate.
There is the cowardice of killing from a distance at no risk to yourself, and then there is the absolute hate or lust for blood that is required to do what these monsters do to the fellow man, face to face. Both the remote coward and the face to face murder are evil, but not nearly in the same camp. The coward can be changed with confrontation of the truth of his deed, where the "in your face murder" will only smile and do it again for the pleasure of it. Do not confuse them for they are NOT the same.
You got it the wrong way around.
The man who kills face to face might be very cruel, but he has enough honour to do his own killing, and usually has limits. He has a bad soul, but it is a soul.
The coward who bombs or drones from a distance, on the other hand, is incorrigible. He is so remote from the suffering he causes that he is almost certain to do evil without limit. Those are the jingos who need bullet holes in them.
very well said, cape_royds.
fencejumper very well said, cape_royds.
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So are you against guns? A rifle shot from a thousand yards is hardly face to face. How about the IED the terrorist use. That is hardly face to face. Where is this line you draw. Is it near Obama's line?
Fence jumper which part of the Islamic world you from?
Since you ask: I live in OR. Green eyed blond of Swedish, Dutch, British, Icelandic heritage born in US. Rejected Episcopalianism at age 12 when I began to really think for myself and jump the fences of conventionality and conformity; however, I have decided that the lives of every human being on this planet are truly of equal value and each has the right to choose his/her path free of judgements from others. Hating anyone, even those one labels as haters, only adds to the distress we are all suffering from. I struggle every day not to allow myself to feel hate for those who abuse others in any way, no matter their race, religion, continent. Understanding & empathy is the key. I fail repeatedly.
Agreed, their lives are equallly valuable, the different cultures they live in no, not by a long shot..
Al Qaeda in Syria given weapons and money by the US and now they are swarming over the border into Iraq.
What difference does it make?
They hate us for our pornography.
They hate us because they love our pornography
Truest truth I've read today.
More homosexual pornography viewed in Pakistan than any other country on a per capita basis.
http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/06/gay-porn-pakistan
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Pornography%29
Check the stats for animal sex, beastiality..
These are primitive people, with a political system for a religion, the mountain of evidence does not lie. That said we should get the hell out and let them kill each other and protect the oil flow, but that is all.
"These are primitive people..."
You are disgusting.
Ha, Check the patents and books filed and printed in the Islamic world versus the Western world, primitive and mired in a substandard culture. My personal feelings are without merit, the facts speak for themselves. Its like sayinbg that Subsaharan societies complete lack of the concept of the wheel is not indiciative of primitivism. The facts speak for themselves iyour emotionalism regarding them does not change them.
"These are primitive people"
Meaning, what, exactly?
When you and your hubristically superior culture end up in a wasteland (from exhausting natural resources) I'll guarantee you that you'll not look all that "civilized."
That fuck-heads have to drag shit down into the gutter with "beastiality" and shit just shows where your heads are really at.
Now I am learning about you seer, this is a good thread.. I drag them to the gutter? Once again truth is attacked as it is hard..
>>Why do they hate America again?
Because the 1st Amendment empowers individuals to criticize their religious fraud and prohibits their state-establishment.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
Who? Democrats' religion? We know Republicans don't even pretend to want peace.
Peace = Dar el salaam = (i.e., the islamic world)
War = Dar el harb (i.e., the non-islamic world)
It's not that complicated, folks.
@ Buckaroo Banzai
"but but but... RELIGION OF PEACE!!!"these are are demon-infested golems desecrating Islam while fulfilling the Neocon's wet dream of a "Clash of Civilisations" ...
these butchers are as Muslim as the barbaric Catholic Inquisition henchmen were Christians ...
would you say that the papal inquisitors's torture techniques were inspired by Jesus' commandment "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" ?
Hallow- when a religion has to proclaim they are the "RELIGION OF PEACE"then there must be some questions about their claims to peace. Its called projection. You and others keep giving buckaroo flack and are conflating teachings of the bible and jesus christ to the actions of people who did not follow those teaching. If they followed the tennants of christianity they would not have engaged in the inquisition as is described through history.
Just like people who say they are catholic but believe in abortion which is forbidden by the catholic church. people who dismiss their religious teachings is not the same as if it says in the bible that abortion is ok.
Islam at it core is this barbaric henchmen of convert or die. its ok to lie to non-believers, their treatment of women as a course of teaching. some do not engage in these aspects but it is still taught as the "way" of allah.
It is a government disguised in religion. a religion of sexually insecure cowards who hide behind the religion of peace to cut your head off.
U.S. MUSLIM RELIGIOUS COUNCIL ISSUES FATWA AGAINST TERRORISM
The Fiqh Council of North America wishes to reaffirm Islam's absolute condemnation of terrorism and religious extremism.
Islam strictly condemns religious extremism and the use of violence against innocent lives.
There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism. Targeting civilians’ life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is Haram – or forbidden - and those who commit these barbaric acts are criminals, not “martyrs.”
The Quran, Islam’s revealed text, states: "Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind."
[Noble Quran 5:32]
Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said there is no excuse for committing unjust acts: "Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil." (Al-Tirmidhi)
God mandates moderation in faith and in all aspects of life when He states in the Quran: “We made you to be a community of the middle way, so that (with the example of your lives) you might bear witness to the truth before all mankind.” [Noble Quran 2:143]
In another verse, God explains our duties as human beings when he says “Let there arise from among you a band of people who invite to righteousness, and enjoin good and forbid evil.” [Noble Quran 3:104]
Islam teaches us to act in a caring manner to all of God's creation. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), who is described in the Quran as “a mercy to the worlds” said: “All creation is the family of God, and the person most beloved by God (is the one) who is kind and caring toward His family."
In the light of the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah we clearly and strongly state:
1. All acts of terrorism targeting civilians are Haram (forbidden) in Islam.
2. It is Haram for a Muslim to cooperate with any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or violence.
3. It is the civic and religious duty of Muslims to cooperate with law enforcement authorities to protect the lives of all civilians.
We issue this fatwa following the guidance of our scripture, the Quran, and the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). We urge all people to resolve all conflicts in just and peaceful manners.
We pray for the defeat of extremism and terrorism. We pray for the safety and security of our country, the United States, and its people. We pray for the safety and security of all inhabitants of our planet. We pray that interfaith harmony and cooperation prevail both in the United States and all around the globe.
FIQH COUNCIL OF NORTH AMERICA July 28, 2005
Guy with the microphone looks pretty western.
This would merely be brutal if we weren't balls deep in creating this.
pods
Yeah, I was just thinking he could be from Milwaukee someplace.
I wonder how many other rather Western-featured faces those balaclavas are hiding?
like the old westerns... the white guys wearing red make up, not so realistic... just look for the star of david tatoos peaking out here and there.
A lot of the people in Syria and northern Iraq (the Levant) are Caucasian white. I have a good friend from the area who could pass for an Englishman. I've met pale-skinned blue-eyed girls from Syria. Same goes for North Africa.
The stereotypical brown middle easterner is actually Arabs from the Arab peninsula (Saudi, UAE, Yemen, those kinds of places). They invaded north and west out of their peninsula and spread their genes and religion (Islam) starting in the 7th century.
Is it Adam Gadahn again?
Shave him and he looks like a younger Rush Limbaugh...
So an extremist Sunni group is just about to engage in a vicious, no quarter asked or given battle with extremist Shia militias, backed by and possibly including troops from Iran.
This is a problem?
If we give $$ to that shit Maliki it will go straight into his Swiss bank account. In two years he and Karzai will be sitting in a cafe in Monaco talikng about the good times.
If we give them weapons they will end up in the hands of ISIL or Iran. We can already anticipate a guy in a black face mask driving along in an M1 Abrams.
Arm the Kurds and stay the fuck away. This is a 1,000 year old blood feud.
The US backed BOTH Iraq and Iran in the Iraq-Iran war. Because? "We're a nation of peace."
Seer The US backed BOTH Iraq and Iran in the Iraq-Iran war. Because? "We're a nation of peace."
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Well I know you realize that it is all propaganda to raise support for certain activities. It's not about peace. It's about protecting certain interests of various groups. It is no different then when the US supported Obama against the Russians or supported the Vietcong before the Vietnam war.
It's not about a gas pipeline. If all they really wanted a gas pipeline across Syria, Bashar was perfectly happy to help them build one.
Bashar was trying to integrate into global markets. He established free investment zones and started to deregulate the banking sector in Syria. Bashar also followed IMF directives to reduce social welfare expenditure in Syria, and to let farmers hurt by a drought go without any financial aid. Basically, the uprisings in Syria were triggered by Bashar's efforts to please Western investors.
Foreign investors could have gotten whatever they wanted in Syria, from luxury hotels to gas pipelines. That wasn't enough to please the Western Bloc. The West does not want any strong sovereignties in the Middle East. They are picking them off one by one.
Once Syria has been battered to bits, there will be another target. It might be Iran, or it might be Saudi Arabia, or it might be Egypt. But one thing for sure: the Western Bloc will never relent until every strong sovereign entity in the region has been reduced to a condition of wretched weakness.
OT but here is another success story under the Obama administration, an article from the UK paper Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2657588/Think-Iraqs-disaster-Rea...
because the american government does not belong to the american people.
On Tuesday, we took a major step towards correcting that problem.
All that from 1 primary?
I think he *cough* inhaled.
*cough*
Yep. We got the politicos in Virginia scared straight. We followed up the defeat of Cantor by upending a slick arrangement to let McAuliffe expand Medicaid without the General Assembly's consent last night:
http://thebullelephant.com/grassroots-wins-medicaid-expansion/
That's two huge wins in three days, and there's an argument to be made that an earlier article of mine was instrumental in getting Cantor to accede to a Select Committee on Benghazi, which got formed the day after I told Cantor he needed to speak to Rep. Frank Wolf, who was campaigning for it for months and got nowhere with the leadership up to that point.
It's amazing what you can accomplish simply by letting representatives know they WILL be held accountable and the truth of what they do - good or bad - WILL be told.
Juuuust what we needed. Another dickhead religious fanatic in charge of something. Wonderful.
I'm torn. Clearly it's not been seen as a positive for the MIC. That's a clear "good." If the guy is Catholic and he's more in line with Francis then maybe it's not so bad of a direction than you might think (compare to Lindsey Graham). All said, I have ZERO expectations of the organized crime syndicate that the US has become of being "fixed."
keep the faith icanhasbailout---it all adds up.
So the smart-n-savvy people can keep getting rich off the government?
Because paying them and giving them weapons does not equal command and control.
Hence "this is what no boots on the ground" in fact looks like.
This is bipartisan btw. "Slaughter the soldiers...pay the terrorists."
Which is the most powerful cohesive group in the US in terms of political influence? Money? Ethnocentric ideation? Media?
Wouldn't it make sense such a group would have a large, if not necessarily always dispositive impact on the foreign policy of any such state? Look at the rhetoric out of politicians from both parties, and in Canada, Australia, the UK, France, and elsewhere. Look who was appointed to run Ukraine and who comprises most of the "oligarchs" and media owners.
Well... then ask if resistance to expressing the obvious is about preventing "hate" or obfuscating wildly disproportionate, indeed even parasitic power?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/25/is-the-us-waging-israel-s-wars/
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lots of little spybots and buggies here at ZH and getting rid of a couple of the ones we don't likes caused a little glitch, Precious.
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don't klick the save more than once --this is a thread which may have information and ideas contrary to Israeli interests and so requires more time to pass the censors--have patience-----
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@ Slave: "Can somebody remind me why we spent $1 trillion and murdered thousands?" 12:42 | 4853566
A: Because of Nutty N Yahoo people, that's why. Questions?
"Here all week. Try the Clingon salad bar." - Kirk out.
South Korea? But, we stuck around for thirty five years before what some would call true democracy.
Piss in the bucket for Iraq.
Manifest Density
"Can somebody remind me why we spent $1 trillion and murdered thousands?"
For the banksters and MIC, and for the MIC and banksters.
Because they hate is for our freedoms.
Can somebody remind me why we spent $1 trillion and murdered thousands?
You're welcome.
I'll take TARP for 100, Alex.
"Heck of a job, Brown Boys"
So Bush could settle scores with Saddam Husseiin.
That Obama guy is one productive folk for sure. He is everywhere.
One would have thought the training was performed by a member of the 'american' middle class but no, the big chief himself is here to serve.
This is how Obama trained those guys? Wooo, very efficient.
Just speak aloud, looking at people with 'american' eyes.
He is one productive guy for sure.
I thought it was McCain and Graham that were calling on arming the Syrian Rebels....
You've always had a problem telling good from bad.
Arming is good. Sunni gas is good. Shia gas is bad.
Got it?
You've always had a problem telling good from bad.
Well Bull Dyke Cunts have a problem with discernment...
What do you expect?
NUKE EM NOW BARRY AND GIT'R DONE!!
He sure is! He's ordered more drone strikes against people defending their homeland against foreign invaders than any other Nobel Peace Prize Winner in history, all while playing a bunch of golf.
When you consider that Obama is a muslim, and that muslims are constantly fighting and killing each other, it explains why he loves to use drone strikes.
Bush barely used drones at all compared to Obama.
I don't think you are seeing the big picture.... pitting muslim against muslim is an obvious divide and conquer strategy implemented by guess who:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/the-jewish-plan-for-the-middle-e...
pretty old news at this point, and obvious.
as for Obama being a muslim... do you seriously believe that the banker cabal would have permitted a real muslim to be president of the united states? just take a look at obama's cabinet.... any muslims? if you are thinking valerie jarett, you better take a closer look... she is no muslim either:
"Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, to African American parents... One of her great-grandfathers was Jewish.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett
obama the muslim... the red herring that just keeps on giving...
The problem with your logic is that the muslims have been pitting muslims against muslims ever since the exact moment that the "prophet" died.
However, you could definitely convince me that the MIC views the muslim tendency to fight each other as an exploitable profit opportunity. That was "Bush's War".
Obama, as a muslim, is fighting "Obama's War", which is simply an extension of the 1300+ year old tradition of muslims slaughtering muslims.
your hasbara is pretty weak. obama is a zionist/satanist... or do i repeat myself.