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Congressman Asks NSA To Restore Two Years Of "Lost" Lois Lerner IRS Emails
Yesterday, the republican campaign to get to the bottom of IRS' targeting of conservative groups was dealt an absolutely idiotic blow when the IRS, in all seriousness, announced that it had lost two years worth of emails to and from the chief subject of the investigation: former agency official Lois Lerner.
As House Ways and Means Commitee chairman Dave Camp said, "The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to congressional inquiries,” he said in a statement. "There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General."
According to NRO, the agency informed Camp that a computer crash resulted in the loss of e-mails between January 2009 and April 2011 sent between Lerner and outside agencies such as the White House and the Department of Justice. "Those messages are particularly relevant given revelations earlier this week that the agency in 2010 transmitted a database to the FBI containing confidential taxpayer information, potentially in violation of federal law."
The IRS said in a separate statement that it has or will produce 24,000 e-mails from the period between 2009 and 2011 using the files of 82 individuals with whom Lerner corresponded, and that it has produced nearly all of the 67,000 e-mails sent and received by Lerner during her time at the agency.
Apparently lack of document (and email) retention is a crime for everyone, but not for the IRS. And furthermore, only when it comes to the IRS, can a single computer crash destroy the entire email path history, even as it crosses through countless servers across the world, and ultimately lands in somebody else's inbox.
It goes without saying that for the IRS to even assume someone would believe this particular, and quite spectacular, lie is beyond insulting to even the most gullible idiot among the US population.
So we won't say it.
What, however, was simply a bizarre, if idiotic, lie has just been taken to a whole new level of ridiculousness, when moments ago, representative Steve Stockman (R-Texas) announced he would request that the National Security Agency help in the hunt for missing emails to and from the IRS’s Lois Lerner, and recover two years worth of "lost" emails. From the Hill:
In a letter to NSA Director Michael Rogers on Friday, Stockman requested that the NSA turn over information it has about emails between Lerner and outside groups between January 2009 and April 2011.
Stockman’s request for the NSA’s “metadata” on the emails comes as congressional Republicans probe whether the IRS mishandled applications for tax-exempt status from Tea Party and conservative groups.
In a statement, Stockman said the NSA’s information “will establish who Lerner contacted and when, which helps investigators determine the extent of illegal activity by the IRS.”
“Your prompt cooperation in this matter will be greatly appreciated and will help establish how IRS and other personnel violated rights protected by the First Amendment,” Rogers wrote.
Turns out all those jokes about people calling the NSA and asking for backups of lost emails and of course files (because remember, courtesy of complicit megacorporations, the NSA has full backdoor access to everything anyone does) - they weren't jokes at all.
And now the NSA is caught between a rock and a hard place: because if it refuses an officialcongressional demand, it shows once again that the spy agency is entirely separated from any concept of checks and balances and accountability; if it complies, it confirms that all the NSA is, considering it can't even tap into a bunch of Al Qaeda phones and figure out what the jihadists' strategy is in Iraq, is just a massive data repository of all US electronic information, to be abused at will by corrupt, criminal government workers, some of whom will likely have to resort to the "dog ate my emails" excuse in the immediate future.
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You don't need a backup at all. PST files are stored locally in every exchange server the email ever touched during it's transit. In most larger organizations (such as the tiny example of the IRS); these files are cached locally on each and every server and for every email sent; 10 -20+ servers may very well have passed the message along (depending on the path taken). It's all easily recoverable if one "wanted" to recover it. You don't need the NSA at all...thank you Microsoft!
If these are indeed "lost", they were "lost" intentionally in accordance to secure deletion with DOD 5220.22. But, what the fuck would I know?
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsd/g/dod-5220-22-M.htm
What the fuck are you talking about? .PST files are the bane of every Exchange admin I've ever known and a real treat for the forensics guys.
They leave little droppings on everything they touch.
BTW regarding IT, I've never seen people work as hard at getting out of doing work. Just sayin'.
Tell you what, next time my pager goes off because a router in the middle of BF Fly-over goes down on a Sunday night, it's a 3-hour drive one-way and the customer has SaaS for their LoB, so no Internet, no business, I'll pass the ticket over to you.
And don't forget to take the backup of the router setup you made, a spare router and other spare parts and any tools and test equipment you might need because, well, WalMart's electronics dept. is a bit sparse.
Remus
Ok, ok, fair enough. You're right, it's not good to overgeneralize because I have seen some bad attitudes and bad work ethic.
To be fair, I have seen some excellent people in corporate IT functions. But honestly they seem to migrate outward, like some sort of reverse-Darwin effect.
There's bad apples everywhere and sometimes that's all there are - bad apples. Guy I know had a saying - "When you're good, it hurts" - meaning if you know what you're doing and are a professional, shit winds up in your lap because it'll be dealt with.
IT has a lot of automation that needs adult supervision, but that automation doesn't just happen. You can work harder or you can work smarter - and the latter generally pays better.
The curse of competence, a rare comodity. The shit always lands on the competent - eventually.
There are backups. Plus, the NSA should have copies of the emails. The shit is getting real now. I bet a few IRS officials wind up dead from apparent "suicides" in the near future. They know too much.
Funny how the New York Times and CNN are not covering the story. So pathetic.
I can not say it enough,
You stupid Americans.
I am glad i am an European. o wait....... let me think about that.
Maybe. Just maybe. If Lerner were sent to jail for her transgressions before Congress the IRS itself would be less likely to openly lie to Congress. Hell, if no one takes you seriously why comply with anything at all.
US government lying all time about everything, but sometimes lie is so obvious...
What can go wrong with another lie?)
Thank god I bought my nail gun before the coming shortage
Too bad the TSA bought up all the collated nails.
These emails must implicate the White Hut.
Nothing less would require such an asinine lie.
The Bengazi select committee will prolly get the same treatment.
That is an excellent prediction. I would bet you are right. Perhaps we will soon see.
I have just sent an email to the IRS informing that unfortunately I too have the same problem..
All my financial records were on emails that sadly have been lost, and I am requesting they could possibly contact one of the other agenciees to inquire as to whether they might possibly be able to find them.
Meanwhile i suggest everyone do the same.
You may want to send a certified copy by snail mail, as their email server is
currently deleting selective emails..
If you've pissed 'em off, they'll find 'em.
If you've played ball, they'll stay lost.
Simple.
"In a letter to NSA Director Michael Rogers on Friday, Stockman requested that the NSA turn over information it has about emails between Lerner and outside groups between January 2009 and April 2011.
Stockman’s request for the NSA’s “metadata” on the emails comes as congressional Republicans probe whether the IRS mishandled applications for tax-exempt status from Tea Party and conservative groups."
Why ask for the metadata when the NSA also has the content of the E-mails?
Because the request is an intended stealth confirmation that the NSA only keeps metadata. When the NSA complies, and they will, they will in effect have proven they do not keep the entire email but just the headers/metedata. Saving the NSA is so much more important than saving the white house. Presidents change, the secuirty state remains. #Winning
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Just teasing you, man.
Or racism, or global warming, or income inequality, or Bush did it. Any of these are as valid a reason as they somehow got lost.
People and companies may backup their computers and emails, but clearly...
The IRS does not back up its coNputers or emails.
.............When it becomes serious, you have to lie......
Or smash a hard disk or two.
IRS Commissioner testified in March Lois Lerner emails were archived. Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6QGmKhRwo
We really need caning as punishment for some crimes in this country.
Haven't you heard? Anything that happens within the hallowed boundaries of Washington D.C. and as an extension any federal government building, elected politician, bureaucrat, and by extension bankster and/or associated staff person, or such person's car ,hotel room, computer, brain, etc. anytime and anywhere on planet earth is expressly protected from said law and is by its very nature inherently LEGAL and SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED BY ANY citizen of the newly formed USSA without due punishment!
With just a quick first pass of this video, I believe Koskinen (new IRS commissioner) also says the emails are on the server. Then at 5:02 he says, "we have the emails." BTW this Koskinen took over as CFO of Freddie Mac in 2009 after the acting CFO "committed suicide."
Since Koskinen testified that they have the emails, they're archived and on the server, shouldn't he be charged with lying under oath, lying to Congress or contempt?
If there is not a protected back up copy of all data going back dozens of years there should be an awful lot of people that get the noose.
Basic IT security. IT 101.
Yeah, well, perfect opportunity for these to get lost, actually. Going for broke. Got shit happening, all very unfavorable to Obama admin and Clinton, all over the world. Not surprised they pull this shit, not to mention start pushing for gay Cub Scout leaders.
Just wait until he starts pardoning people. Delay, delay, delay the GOP from gaining much traction on any of these scandals, and then come pardon time ---- voila! no one will be punishable.
Nobody can keep their lies straight anymore.
Professional liars are a dime a dozen, good ones are hard to find.
+ 1
And the Mainstream Media has no interest in the truth anymore.
These corrupt thieving IRS bastards are laughing at every single American.
All these posts and not a one asks the most important question:
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
--HRH Hillary Clinton
Congress should tell the NSA they have two weeks to come up with the emails or they will defund their new complex in Utah
and use it for a nuclear waste disposal site.
They can't. Within that 2 weeks the online affairs of every congressasshole who threatens the NSA will be released to the public thru a mysterious "security flaw" that the NSA overlooked, and strangely but thankfully didn't compromise the info of anyone who didn't threaten the NSA.
Ask China - I'm sure they'll be of more help than the NSA...
The states must secede from Washington D.C.
What is the problem?
The states are fucking broke.
If they seceded, They could create their own money and pay back the Fed with those. Here you go, 1 million Vermont Dollars. BUT, you must spend them here. How much Maple syrup you want?
And if it complies it will be turning over information for what can be viewed as a political investigation. That would be a bad precedent. Remember Nixon's enemies list?
You know what is particularly irritating to me is that this investigation would lead directly into the WH. Without a doubt this president just like Nixon would do anything to retain the presidency and targeted conservatives and or his political oppostion just like Nixon. Unlike Nixon it was stopped by the political opposition. I have no doubt that this practice at the IRS still goes on today as Obama has transformed us all into a bananna republic.
Ding, ding, ding. The evidence tampering has nothing to do with covering for Louis Lerner; it has everything to do with covering for the smoking gun that's sitting in the middle of the Oval Office desk.
I am INSANE with this B.S.! After this post I am sure to be audited. Sorry. My hard drive failed - no records. I would now like to pass GO on the game board and collect my $2,000,000 pension from the brain dead public. What NO PENSION for me??? AAAAHHHHHHH!
No problem. All the NSA has to say is "oh, sorry, that hard drive that we store Lois Lerner's mails on ... yeah, it crashed here too. I hate it when that happens."
You gotta get up pretty early to trip up US intelligence ... like around 2:45 in the afternoon.
Double Posted.
check out gwu.edu declassified archive site (NSA/CIA)site:
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/index.html
and this site: http://www.muckety.com/Internal-Revenue-Services/5003118.muckety
lois lerner & Assoc. ?!?
Note: Who is John And Terry Chiang?
NSA reply: During our software upgrading process, we lost a large chuck of archived data. I’m afraid that this information is irretrievable.
/LOL
emails are stored on servers...not computers. if a server crashed everyone in her department would have lost their emails as well.
any congressman....I just provided to you evidence of fraud.
No one will do anything though because our country has already collapsed.
America will get to experience socialism. It will be grand.
In all seriousness, the computers at the IRS are, apparently, slightly above an abacusus with blinking lights.
Not that anyone believes that the "lost" e-mails are anything other than a big fcku to the other 2 branches of government.
Might be an interesting question to anyone running for one of those legislative sincures, with the executive not giving a bucket of warm spit for opinion or laws, what exactly do they expect to do in office? Name a new national bird? (a plucked chicken).
Have a glance. http://cryptome.org/
This shit is beyond laughable!
Just offer a $1M bounty to the hackers to find them. You'll get faster results than the lowest-common denominators that call themselves "civil servants."
First they came for the Tea Party, and I said nothing... because I hated the Tea Party, you know, those woman hating racist rednecks.
Then they came for the guns, and I said nothing, because I hated guns.
Then they came for my privacy, because you know, terrorism and all that... it's for the children.
Then they came for me, and I gladly rolled over because I am a statist bitch.
"First they came for my Liberty, and I did not resist. Next they came for my Property, and again I did not resist. Then they came for my Life, and I had nothing to resist them with."
They lost something alright, their comprehension of their oaths and an appreciation for Article 3, Section 3.
Of course the NSA has them. They've been collecting everything.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-14/senior-nsa-executive-nsa-started-spying-journalists-2002-%E2%80%A6-order-make-sure-they-didn
Exactly.
They also have everything against any judge and whoever might want to procecute them. which is why the rule of law is long gone in the country.
It's the greatest blackmail database in the history of the world. That's its real danger. All politicians are now compromised and live in fear of their secrets , crimes, and indiscretions being "outed" by the NSA and others with access ito that information if they don't play ball. Thanks to technology and the NSA, we have our very own SS, our own Stasi -- the Information Secret Police, who know everything about every body. Remember general David Petraeus and Paul Broadwel. "The subsequent cyberstalking investigation by the FBI uncovered an extramarital affair between General Petraeus and Paula Broadwell. FBI agents also discovered that General John R. Allen exchanged sexually explicit e-mails with Jill Kelley." I wonder how they got those emails.
THATs why they REALLY hated Ron Paul
SMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMERSH.
This is all bullshit and insults my intellect... How is it possible that there is no back up Sever? How is it possible there is no hard drives pulled and stored off location for the US IRS?
You know what this really means? There all complicity with stockman asking for the NSA's help. Its a side show to distract from the almost Impossible. He's complicit as well and calls into question his compentency to be a US CONGRESSMAN!
I just sold all my stock in the Onion and took out puts.
time for waterboarding
Thats so early 20th century.
www.korakora.org/Those-Pious-Yankees.gif
Time to start blowin' that whistle sweetheart.
Sew some gold into your jacket and get on the nearest plane to Russia.
The government is not capable of ever making this right. They destroyed the democratic system by corrupting the election processes. So all elected officials are tainted. They all have a conflict of interest.
LL should have been tossed in jail for even trying to plead the 5th. The kicker is they let her do it. Chew on that for a bit.
There has already been enough disclosure from Freedom Watch to charge the bitch, but with jackasshit Holder in charge that won't happen.
However, the statue of limitations won't save this cunt so expect an Obama pardon on the last day he can do it.
"When the Snake Eats its Tail"
(*Ring*)
Hello, NSA, Agent Smith or Jones here.
IRS here, Agent Smith or Jones. I am IRS Agent Jones or Smith. It appears you are looking into our email server.
Yes. I have to find Lerner's emails.
I hate to tell you this Agent Smith or Jones, but we have found a major problem. We may have to audit your taxes for the last 25 years.
Err, uhh, Whoops! I lost all the information I had on Lerner. Looks like I am out of your server.
Well, it appears we made a mistake on that audit. Keep up the good work, Agent SMith or Jones.
(*Click*)
It just goes to show that the Republican party is all in favor of police state fascist tactics as long as they satisfy their interests. It would be interesting if they could come up with such records. As of yet I have seen no real bombshells from Snowden, like the real extent of the warrantless surveillance that was supposedly ubiquitous.
Snowden did not have the security clearance to get access to the really good stuff - like political assasinations, the traitors involved with 911, murders by thge Cintons, obama team, sexual perversions and bribes and other crimes by the top guys -much less the really good stuff -the illuminati bastards who really run things\.
..and I lost two years of receipts and pay stubs, you dried-up fucking cunt.
Put the bitch in jail for contempt of Congress. The subpoena the head of IT. Give him a 24 hour choice: get the fucking emails or you will be in jail too and we will have someone else looking. Lather, rinse, repeat until they come out. They are NOT lost, they are just lying.
OBTW, give blanket amnesty to any taxpayer who "lost" their records during the same interval.
Put the bitch in jail for contempt of Congress. The subpoena the head of IT. Give him a 24 hour choice: get the fucking emails or you will be in jail too and we will have someone else looking. Lather, rinse, repeat until they come out. They are NOT lost, they are just lying.
OBTW, give blanket amnesty to any taxpayer who "lost" their records during the same interval.
"Stockman requested that the NSA turn over information it has about emails between Lerner and outside groups between January 2009 and April 2011."
For Star Wars nerds only:
"there is always a bigger fish". Liam Neisen. Ewnen McGregor, Jar Jar Binks. Episode I.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAuBX666PaQ
Fuck Jar Jar Binks.
In that scene it was jar jars responsibility to safely guide Qui-gon And obi-won through the core of the planet. A metaphor for hell. He is completely in competent but has good intentions. In addition to that is distracting dialogue with his prattling on (like the "insiders" in this drama. )
Obi-won (macgregor) is concerned. Qui-Gon (neisen) is not. If you have access to the full scene. The "fish" at the end is not a fish. But you need a tv with really good black and white contrast to see what it is.
This is simply not credible. It's a bald faced lie.
Those two years of missing emails may implicate current players.
Mid-term election worries may be causing the Obummer regime to do the "super freak" dance once again.
If the NSA can not find the emails, perhaps Anonymous will help.
ROFL!
Dont worry, they'll still hunt you down for the $200 in online sales you didnt pay tax on. Bwahahahah!
If these worthless sacks of shit can't be held responsible for immoral wars and torture hide and go seek with emails is small potatoes.
So we have this government worker retaining official correspondence on her own desktop machine (not on the mail server?) and the disc crashes (who knew THAT could ever happen?) and ... wait for it ... there are no nightly backups on these machines to assure records kept in only one location cannot be restored?
Really? And who is the genius in charge of information security at the IRS?
This enire affair goes well beyond the bounds of possibility unless this agency is just as incompetent as it is corrupt. Of course one does usually suggest the other.
On the bright side, no buildings were harmed in the loss of these emails.
Maybe the NIST boys could help out with some of this technical stuff, since they finished buttoning up the whole story about the only modern steel and glass building that has colapsed from an office fire, and ever will.
Yes, after that investigation, it is still okay to work and live in a highrise and at the same time have indoor electriciy and HVAC.
This excuse won't flush and is part of an orchestrated media event. Sorry, but all email communications are backed up onto tape and stored offsite. It's called basic disaster recovery and it is a part of standard tasking since before 911. This stuff gets audited every year as a part of standards compliance practice. Don't let these people play you! Don't buy the false left/right paradigm either. Republicans know such an excuse is nothing more than a lie. It remains to be seen whether they will call any hands on this. NSA, give me a break. Seems like a nice easy way to derail an investigation.
If you work in IT you Know that there is no such thing as "It's been deleted".
It's backed up somewhere as Legolas said. IRS has access to it, Just call their offsite storage co. And ask for the tapes.
Give me Lerner's desktop or laptop, and I'll give 98% + odds that I can get a record of her email communications. Email communications is not a "single point of failure" data type.
My next question is which 'Republicans' will play along to put this 'investigation' into the dustbin. What was the price for this, Judas, 30 bricks of gold?
Dear Fellow ZH readers, can somebody tell me, how does your Government headed by Nobelprize laureat Hussein Kenya Obanana want to fiq Irq, Lybia, Syria, Boko Haram, Ukraine, when this government is not able to fix their computer records?
I would say that this attempt at perjury combined with obstruction by destruction of evidence is so lame that it qualifies as yet another classic Obummer "fix".
I imagine that we will be entertained by another presidential Sgt. Shultz (Hogan's Heroes) imitation soon.
They probably have 'fixed' them - at least in their minds - by deleting them on purpose. Of course, they will find out that anything entered on a computer never truly disappears.
Call in the military to perform a raid on the agency overnight, shutting the agency down completely. I mean complete, cold shutdown, including power and communications, seizing all assets. NBD, we're broke anyway. Then go see if Lerner is willing to testify.
This just in --
"The Onion dot com shuts down, cannot compete wth Reality."
Brilliant!
If NSA does produce the missing two-year worth of email, then NSA admits unauthorized snooping into federal agency....blah, blah,,
If NSA is not able to produce the two-year worth of email, then NSA is useless, not worthy of federal budget allocation......
Either way, NSA is now officially labeled " not sure anyway"
Interesting that they requested the emails as opposed to ordering that the NSA deliver them on a particular date.
Take the entire chain of command, from the head of the IRS down to the person who makes the backup tapes and the security auditors who doublecheck the backups, and find them in contempt of Congress. And inform them that until the tapes are found, their paychecks are paid into escrow for up to 100 years--so they still earn the money, but it might be the year 2114 before they get to spend the money if the tapes don't re-appear.
Yes, yes, and yes. Lock 'em all up in DC jail til the canary begins to sing.
Right. No backups for 2 years? Bring in the computer staff responsible for that and prosecute them. As soon as the first domino goes to jail this house of lies will cave in. And kudos to Stockman for getting the NSA in this position. Now push hard because what good is all this NSA data for terrorist prevention or monitoring if it takes 6 months to retrieve the data!
I gaurantee you that they have those emails. Unless the IRS officially uses pop3 email like Yahoo or Google mail and even if they did they are likely recoverable. Most certainly they use Microsoft Exchange (Microsoft sells their products to government and educational institutions at deep discounts) which means the email resides on a server and not a computer except for the local copy. To trot out the excuse that they are lost because a computer crashed is laughable. Not only do they reside on a server that server will also have backups. The only email that may reside on the local computer that does not reside on a server in an Exchange environment is when archiving is implemented. Even so, in something as important as government archiving should not be left to being stored on a pc hard drive. Even if that hard drive crashed it is highly likely that the data on it could be recovered. Most likely archiving is done to storage attached to a server that is also backed up. What a freaking joke!
Spot on. Commence the RICO investigation.
This just in from NSA: "What an amazing coincidence! Those are the only emails sent by anyone on earth during those years that NSA lost too. Our investigation indicates Snowden erased them."
I recognize this may not be a humanitarian approach, if you belt them down on a table and run a 50 minute Chinese water torture test, they would tell you where to find the classified IRS email files. Some prefer waterboarding. Call me old school.
/sarc
Funny. The irs had no problems finding my old email to them.
Having worked as a contractor for the US government. I can tell you 'loosing' the emails is totally impossible. All and I mean all work you do on the computer is backed up and you are subject to immediate dismissal if you do anything inappropriate.
Along those lines a person as high up as Learner had security clearance that is higher than 80% of the people at the NSA. All of her data not specifically classified for public dissemination is consider "confidential" or higher by default. Direct correspondence to the White House is secret or better by default. Somebody is going to get fired for this. Probably a $10/hr contractor who cleans the toilets. Corzine MF global style.
Of course, the next step might be to order Lerner emails from the companies and agencies that they suspect Lerner communicated with. Hopefully server crashes are not contagious. Since those companies/agencies won't know which emails the IRS produced or which ones the NSA 'found', you may catch some fish that way. All you need are one or two from Lerner that let you put her away and the beans will spill on all the rest.
The main reason Lerner would plead the Fifth is that she knows she is guilty and she knows there is proof of it. Just like many others who actually get prosecuted, it is the lying that gets them sentenced, not the original crimes.
And if the NSA can't find it I'm sure Google, MSFT, Yahoo and Facebook will all have backups in their data banks. So not to worry here. The info is out there. We just need to press the right buttons (or crush the right thumbs) to get it out
Sorry, we'd like to help but until Snowden releases something more we don't know if we collected this information.
And even if we did, it was all lost in a big computer malfunction undoubtedly due to the evil Mr Putin or those Chinese hackers the FBI is righteously trying to prosecute.
But be warm in the knowledge we have our , (whoops) your best interests at heart and are absolutely committed to working hand-in-hand with the many wonderful members of Congress we have under our thumb (whoops, again) so appreciate.
NSA
No bureaucracy gets dismantled until the ones running it begin hurting from its very existence.
while your at it, I sent some Russian porn to a friend and she lost it.. Can you just forward that to Nikki@Hotmail.com
Bring me the hard drive off of that crashed computer, I bet I can find something, or know somone who can. Bet you money it was reformateted, scanned and defraged about a dozen times and sleeps with the fishes. She's lying and should do at least 10 years no parole for destroying evidence. case closed.
It does not matter what happened to the hard drive on a computer. Microsoft Exchange stores the email on a server which is also backed up. They have the emails.
that is a request that the nsa destroy all such files ;)
There is huge, huge redundancy built into e-mail systems.
Have the gov geek claiming this bullshit brought before congress, and force him to sign his name to the claim.
Tell him how many years he's going to be living with bubba if proven wrong.
Go after the geeks and watch them squeal like piggies.
Then go full-tilt Cantor on every congressman who lets the IRS get away with this happy horsecock.
I second the motion!
Someone wake me up when someone goes to jail for contempt of Congress, and they seize records.
Dog and pony show.
If you want to get to the bottom of this you must ask Israel,( since they own the mainstream media)to release it to the sheeple..................... what do you think the chances for that are?
Loosing emails is a bull shit psyops ploy.
This BS story is all about convincing the public how useful NSA domestic spying is. See, spying is only used on the bad guys..............
It's not even a good psyops.
Implicates the prez directly, will never be found.
Government needs you to (keep) paying taxes. . . so they can tyrannze you more completely.
yup!
Nobody is stopping this government from doing anything they want. They dont even need to care what you think anymore.
Yes the shirking of law and responsibility is shocking ... and the encouragement of mass illegal immigration is truly treasonous.
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$ rm *There's another even homlier cunt who was involved in the IRS' scheme to deny tax-exempt status to groups opposed to their tyranny. As I recall, this bitch is now in charge of the IRS' UsurperCare enforcement. It seems that the Bushbama regime is protecting her, while throwing Lerner in front of the elephant stampede.
This skank bitch also needs to be smoked out and run through the mill by the elephant sock puppets on the CONgressional committee.
WB7 needs to paste both of their mugs in one of his masterpieces, maybe duo-smoking the K.U.'s (Kenyan Usurper's) mamba.
Mr. Sarah Hall Ingram
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/10/irs-white-house-officials-that-shared-...
Mrs Doubtfire????
This is a GLARING EXAMPLE of how fucked up this country has become when the administration pulls these friday disclosures and the press doesn't say jack shit.
Bad hair, bad make-up, poor wardrobe...Plastic bead necklace and bracelet? WTF, did her grand kids make that shit for her? How embarrassing for America our criminal government looks like it shops at Goodwill.
She had her collection worn-out of Ben-was drilled and strung.