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This Is Not Going As Planned: Iraq Prime Minister Defies US, Accuses Saudi Arabia Of "Genocide"

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Shortly after the US revealed that, in addition to aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships it was also sending a few hundred "special forces" on the ground in Iraq, contrary to what Obama had stated previously, Washington made quite clear it wants Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to embrace Sunni politicians as a condition of U.S. support to fight a lightning advance by forces from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Then something unexpected happened: Iraq's Shi'ite rulers defied Western calls on Tuesday to reach out to Sunnis to defuse the uprising in the north of the country, declaring a boycott of Iraq's main Sunni political bloc and accusing Sunni power Saudi Arabia of promoting "genocide."

In fact, as Reuters reported moments ago, the Shi'ite prime minister has moved in the opposite direction of Obama's demands, announcing a crackdown on politicians and officers he considers "traitors" and lashing out at neighbouring Sunni countries for stoking militancy.

Not only did Iraq defy the US, but it also called out America's BFF (or at least formerly so until the arrival of Iran, which the US is aggressively, and inexplicably, rushing to make its new key partner in the region) for being the real aggressor behind the scenes? How dare Maliki point out the truth - doesn't he know that those US troops in Iraq can just as easily be used to depose the current regime as "fight" the Al Qaeda Jihadists the US itself armed in the first place?

Apparently not, and instead of seeking a broad coalition with Sunnis as the US ordered, the latest target of his government's fury was Saudi Arabia, the main Sunni power in the Gulf, which funds Sunni militants in neighbouring Syria but denies it is behind ISIL.

"We hold them responsible for supporting these groups financially and morally, and for the outcome of that - which includes crimes that may qualify as genocide: the spilling of Iraqi blood, the destruction of Iraqi state institutions and historic and religious sites," the Iraqi government said of Riyadh in a statement.

As Reuters notes, Maliki has blamed Saudi Arabia for supporting militants in the past, but the severe language was unprecedented.

And just to show it won't take being exposed for the whole world to see sitting down, on Monday Riyadh blamed sectarianism in Baghdad for fueling the violence.

The rest of the story is largely known: Iraq is slowly sinking into sectarian violence which is exposing age-old rifts, and even forcing leaders to speak out of place, in the process revealing very undiplomatic truths:

ISIL fighters who aim to build a Caliphate based on mediaeval Sunni precepts across the Iraqi-Syrian frontier launched their revolt by seizing the north's main city, Mosul, last week and swept through the Tigris valley towards Baghdad. The fighters, who consider all Shi'ites to be heretics deserving death, pride themselves on their brutality and have boasted of massacring hundreds of troops who surrendered.

 

Most Iraqi Sunnis abhor such violence, but nevertheless the ISIL-led uprising has been joined by other Sunni factions, including former members of ousted dictator Saddam Hussein's Baath Party and tribal figures, who share widespread anger at perceived oppression by Maliki's government.

 

Western countries, including the United States, have urged Maliki to reach out to Sunnis to rebuild national unity as the only way of preventing the disintegration of Iraq.

 

"There is a real risk of further sectarian violence on a massive scale, within Iraq and beyond its borders," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on Tuesday. "I have been urging Iraqi government leaders including Prime Minister al-Maliki to reach out for an inclusive dialogue and solution of this issue."

 

But the long-serving prime minister, who won an election two months ago, seems instead to be relying more heavily than ever on his own sect, who form the majority in Iraq. Hassan Suneid, a close Maliki ally, said on Tuesday the governing Shi'ite National Alliance should boycott all work with the largest Sunni political bloc, Mutahidoon.

In the meantime, until the solution to Iraq violence is found, alliances in the mid-east are changing at a ferocious pace and pitting such one time enemies as Saudi Arabia and Iran (not to mention the US) on the same side, forced to fight an extremist Jihadist movement that the US itself was funding. "Iran, the leading Shi'ite power, has close ties to Maliki and the Shi'ite parties that have held power in Baghdad since U.S. forces toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003. But although both Washington and Tehran are close allies of Baghdad, they have not cooperated in the past."

Domestically, the chaos is just as bad, if not worse:

Tens of thousands of Shi'ites have rallied at volunteer centres in recent days, answering a call by the top Shi'ite cleric to defend the nation. Many recruits have gone off to train at Iraqi military bases.

 

But with the million-strong regular army abandoning ground despite being armed and trained by the United States at a cost of $25 billion, the government is increasingly relying on extra-legal Shi'ite militia to fight on its behalf, re-establishing groups that fought during the 2006-2007 bloodletting.

 

According to one Shi'ite Islamist working in the government, well-trained fighters from the Shi'ite organisations Asaib Ahl Haq, Khetaeb Hezbollah and the Badr Organisation are now being deployed as the main combat force, while new civilian volunteers will be used to hold ground after it is taken.

 

The Sunni militants have moved at lightning speed since seizing Mosul last Tuesday, slicing through northern and central Iraq, capturing the towns of Hawija and Tikrit in the north before facing resistance in southern Salahuddin province, where there is a large Shi’ite population.

 

The battle lines are now formalising, with the insurgents held at bay about an hour's drive north of Baghdad and just on the capital's outskirts to the west.

Meanwhile to the north, as we reported previously, the town of Kirkuk has been taken by forces from the autonomous Kurdish region. In a further sign of ethnic and sectarian polarisation, Maliki allies have accused the Kurds of colluding with Sunnis to dislodge government forces in the north.

That, however, is hardly the case, at least for now. As Fox reports, ISIS is so far mostly bent on taking their march south toward Baghdad, and not into the autonomous zone of Kurdistan, where hardened fighters are prepared to defend their oil-rich turf. This northern front is one of the few places where ISIS have encountered resistance -- for unlike the Iraqi Army, the cohesive Kurdish force has held them back.

The Kurds, of course, were lucky to seize the long-disputed oil rich lands in the north - they did so with the help of ISIS whose arrival promptly scattered the Iraq army.

Whatever the reason, the army here fled --  and into the vacuum came the Peshmerga -- the Kurdish Army that has for decades been fighting for freedom in this mountainous land, and who are now taking advantage of the chaos below them.

 

Today on the front lines in Kirkuk, Kurdish forces were digging in, excavating trenches and building defenses. This is becoming a permanent boundary.

 

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As to the question of whether these impressive Peshmerga troops might help reclaim Mosul, Nechervan Idris Barzani, the prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan, was clear. Until a political solution is embarked upon, they will not help. To do so would be foolish without the support of other Sunni tribes in the area.

Perhaps the best summary of all the unfolding confusion comes from the following just released update chart from the Institute for the Study of War.

But where it would get most messy - literally - is if as the previously reported shuttering of Iraq's largest refinery leads to electricity blackouts for Baghdad. Because nothing gets people in a murderous rage quite as 115 degrees and no air conditioning.

 

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Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:06 | 4866990 TrustWho
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I thought GET SMART with Don Adams was a great comedy. Now I believe Get Smart is a reality show for the Obama administration.

(Wiki) The series centers on bumbling secret agent Maxwell Smart, also known as Agent 86. His female partner is Agent 99,[6] whose real name is never revealed in the series. Agents 86 and 99 work for CONTROL, a secret U.S. government counter-intelligence agency based in Washington, D.C. The pair investigates and thwarts various threats to the world, though Smart's bumbling nature and demands to do things by-the-book invariably cause complications. However, Smart never fails to save the day. Looking on is the long-suffering head of CONTROL, who is addressed simply as "Chief."

The nemesis of CONTROL is KAOS, described as "an international organization of evil."

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:39 | 4867101 deflator
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Governments view free markets as being chaotic and in need of control. I think that was the cause of the great depression.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:11 | 4868092 7.62x54r
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CONTROL would be an improvement over the CIA.

Hell, Archer would be an improvement.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:07 | 4866996 youngman
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Iraq will soon be a three state country...and no going back....its too seperated now....now the fight will be for the money..the oil....but I think the ISIS boys dont care about that right now..they ust want the 7th century again..they think that will be fine....until they all die off or get to a point where they will be taken over again....by someone with money and medicine...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:16 | 4867958 Savyindallas
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Yes =that is the plan. We can't invade and occupy and subjugate these countries  -like we did to Japan and Germany after WW2  -so we Divide and Conquer  -pitting various sects  and ethnic groups against each other while we exploit their resources. A  country divided and in perpetual civil war cannot threaten Israel of the globalist empire. Eventually they will wear themselves out and be ready for serfdom and eventual depopulation. Who needs armies? Like true terrorism, it's far cheaper to subvert and control  - In the former bipolar world, this was not possible  -there was alaways another super power to counter such tactics by similar means.  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:13 | 4868093 7.62x54r
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It might end up a no state state, swallowed up by Iran, Kurdistan, and Syria. The Kurds will actually fight, and Putin is supporting both Iran and Assad.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:10 | 4866999 Evil Bugeyes
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Two groups of fanatical anti-US  whackos are fighting each other. How are things not going to plan?

From the US point of view, the optimal strategy would be to arm both sides and encourage them to have at it. And I suspect that this is exactly what is happening. The US is arming the Iraqi government directly and the rebels are basically that same guys as the Syrian rebels that the US is arming under the table.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:03 | 4867479 machineh
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'the optimal strategy would be to arm both sides and encourage them to have at it'

That would be the Israeli strategy ... while getting the idiot U.S. to pay for it ... as well as send them $3 billion a year in tribute.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:30 | 4867534 tony wilson
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moron they are actors hired by langley cut your huff post mind control shit.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:06 | 4867941 Savyindallas
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I think you are correct in saying that we are arming both sides (to create anarchy) but that is not in the US' best interest  -it is in the globalist zionist/Neocons best interests  -according to plan. Like Michael Ledeen's doctrine of "Creative Destruction" -a Luciferian strategy straight out of the Protocols.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:15 | 4868095 7.62x54r
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The optimum strategy would be to get the hell out, bring the troops home, and drive the Democrats, RINOs, and the Free Shit Army into the Atlantic.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:15 | 4867022 IridiumRebel
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Nuke it from space?...oh wait, that's been done via depleted uranium.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:15 | 4867024 virgilcaine
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The republic of Chaostan with the golf pro as leader of.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:15 | 4867025 therevolutionwas
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I wonder if China, Russia, maybe India and others will step up their efforts to do away with the dollar in oder to stop the DC-MIC Psychos or at least slow them down. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:18 | 4867032 orangegeek
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like the LA gang wars in the 1990s, enforcement sat back and watched the masses get slaughtered and then cleaned up the mess once the dust settled

 

let the civil war commence!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:23 | 4867047 ShrNfr
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Gold, silver, and lead have always been a good investment for times like that.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:22 | 4867043 ShrNfr
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Rapidly evolving, this is now:

 

(Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki broadcast a joint appeal for national unity on Tuesday with bitter Sunni critics of his Shi'ite-led government - a move that may help him win U.S. help against rampant Islamists threatening Baghdad.

 

Hopey, changey, dopey, strangey, this administration sure is mangey.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:33 | 4867086 I Write Code
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Wau, somebody had their tail twisted.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:17 | 4868098 7.62x54r
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Oh, and the Baathist have joined up with ISIS.

Winning! ... not.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:42 | 4867071 tony wilson
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exactly as i thought

a stand down by the iraqi army.

the chatham house rothschild media critique of Nuri al-Maliki shpws he is not doing what he is told.

iran seems to be doing back room deals with the us and the uk.

part of the 3 part country break up what a fuckin sick joke.

less than 5000 gay cia mossad  trained isis rapists given free reign.

 

Nuri al-Malik needs to go on tv and do a call to arms explain the chatham house scripted planned break up.

he needs to call out the city of london,tel aviv and washington

the jewish house of saud has to go.

 

 

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:50 | 4867116 magpie
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Chatham House script failed to include the Kurds occupying Kirkuk, or the massacre of Shia Turkmens.

Bizzarely, it does decree the same script for Nigeria and Israel/Palestine...how racist.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4867501 Canucklehead
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I'm curious. Do you ever feel like you are trying to pick up Jello?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:16 | 4867502 conscious being
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If he gets on tv and says that, then he will meet the nail gun.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:21 | 4868101 7.62x54r
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It would have to be a nail gun. Buildings in Bagdad aren't high enough to guarantee a defenestration kill.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:50 | 4867083 Gadfly
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"This Is Not Going As Planned"   Actually, it MUST be going according to someone's plan because it would be virtually impossible for our leaders to be this fucking stupid and insane, if they were actually trying to avoid conflct and war and the killing and maiming of innocent life, and pouring our financial future and resources down a rat hole.  So it absolutely MUST be intentional.  Destablize the entire middle east (and also Russia).  Create the conditions for Arabs and Muslims to fight and kill each other in perpeituity, make sure there is no central government, no central control (other than ours), perpetual warfare amongst the peoples of the Arab nations.  Now who could possibly benefit from all of this chaos and insanity?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:54 | 4867314 litemine
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Or just bring you Army/Navy home and fix your own troubles. God knows you have plenty. Start with Washington then NY NY.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:34 | 4867873 Savyindallas
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Yes indeed  -you must have read Ralph  Schoenman's "Hidden Hitory of Zionism"

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:38 | 4867099 gcjohns1971
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This, Syria, and a huge portion of the Ukraine thing (in which the Saudis and Qatari stand to gain expanded gas export markets in Eastern Europe) are the bones that Obama and Clinton threw the Saudi's after the US reneged on the 'no new domestic competition' portion of the 1973 petro-dollar deal.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:43 | 4867109 22winmag
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They throw around the "G" word at the drop of the hat.

 

Genocide happens with mass starvation, protracted sieges, or protracted bombing, something Saudi Arabia doesn't have the reach for.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:47 | 4867114 magpie
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Dead in Kosovo and Bosnia...worth more for the UN.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:22 | 4868102 7.62x54r
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They outsource that with funding.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:50 | 4867122 I Write Code
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What can we do to help?  Maybe crop-dust both sides with methamphetamine?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:54 | 4867135 Thirtyseven
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Loved the last line: "Because nothing gets people in a murderous rage quite as 115 degrees and no air conditioning."

I know.  Baltimore kicks off at 90°.  Fortunately (or not) taxpayers provide plenty of air conditioning (free utilities) to go along with the free food and free rent.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:53 | 4867136 the wet spot
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Excuse me just one damn minute.  I was informed that this was MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in Iraq by Dear Leader Dubya.  Do you dare suggest otherwise?!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:16 | 4867202 Bazza McKenzie
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As someone pointed out elsewhere, another moron unaccomplished the mission.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:22 | 4867216 CrashisOptimistic
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I think this is a new mission.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:44 | 4867434 Evil Bugeyes
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I think "THE MISSION" was toppling Saddam Hussein from power. Inciting a bloody sectarian civil war is probably just viewed as "icing on the cake".

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:11 | 4867189 joego1
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If you want your sectarian war you can have your sectarian war. Blow up a couple of key oil refineries while you are at it and let the world know how going without an oil fix for a year or two works out for them.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:12 | 4867190 BigInJapan
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Fact is, Iran is the cleanest dirty shirt in the region.

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:50 | 4867308 litemine
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Not if there is an American over there.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:21 | 4867215 Colonel Walter ...
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I am not old enough to understand fully, but is trying to promote some type of democracies in this region a futile effort? Were things much better when the east and west had to do was to decide which repressive dictator to support/install behind the scenes? Seems the wars were much less drawn out in the 50's/60's/70's. United States seemed to try to allow the people in Iraq and Afghanistan a chance at some sort of limited representative government and it just does not seem to work. Did the people in the region like their Ottoman Empire or was that just one massive repressive regime of it's own and the people had a better chance with the splitting up of the Empire after the war?   

This crap is getting very old. And I know we are talking centuries...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:24 | 4867222 CrashisOptimistic
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Nothing matters but oil.

When performing any sort of analysis about more or less anything at all, anywhere at all, always stop about 5 times during the analysis and repeat that sentence.

Your analysis will make much more sense.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:12 | 4867817 Wahooo
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And the reason nothing matters but oil is petro-dollars.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:57 | 4867919 Almost Solvent
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And fueling war machines.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:16 | 4867648 IndyPat
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I think giving our Republic a serious colon blow would be seen as leading by example.
Refrain from the term "promoting democracies". It's horseshit.

Liberty sells itself. What we've been selling them is murder and theft.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:32 | 4867706 Herodotus
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The Turks forced all these people and sects to get along whether they wanted to or not.  Thousands of Jews lived in these countries and were allowed to practice their religion.  When the Ottoman empire collapsed this created a power vacumn.  Without the Sultan keeping them all under his thumb, all the petty hatreds were allowed to bubble up to the surface.  When the Turks lost control of the Balkans, Serbian nationalism was allowed to run rampant.  The result was WWI and it continues to this day, e.g., Kosovo, Bosnia, Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, Cyprus, etc. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:29 | 4867242 potato
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in what barbarous units are those temperature figures??

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:23 | 4868105 7.62x54r
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Would you prefer degrees Kelvin?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:36 | 4867265 El Gordo
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I'm just glad that Putin is not involved in any of this.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:24 | 4868110 7.62x54r
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Thanx to Ofucktard, Putin is going to end up owning everything the Kurds don't grab.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:39 | 4867277 lakecity55
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Looks like The Tribe's Plans are going smoothly.

Nothing to see here until the Magic Mushroom cloud appears.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:47 | 4867301 litemine
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You never should have interfeared..........WARMONGER.

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:43 | 4867288 shovelhead
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Where's Saddam Hussein?

He wouldn't put up with any of this horseshit.

Oh, never mind.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:26 | 4868113 7.62x54r
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Saddam's crew has joined ISIS. Seriously.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:48 | 4867291 litemine
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Oh...well......The troops are on the way!!!!   Just who they will be Backing/fighting is yet to be determined but fight someone we will......................We are the Champions.....We are the Champions.........

Never will the source be attacted.......Sunni power in Saudi Arabia.....was it behind 9-11 . with American Government Help...... (NOTHING TO STOP PROFITS TO THE .01% gained by the Petro Dollar..........financial control to Fuck    our neighbours after all we have no friend just opportunities..."BHO"

As a Canadian......soon we will market our oil to the world, along with our NLG . We are pissed., at least I am. so    Hows that working out for Ya/.    Any CIA/ found on Canada soil is a target, who I will do what I can to bring their missdeeds  to the enlightenment of our  Country..they are not here for Canadians......Break a leg. Minions,,,,,,,,,,,,,and keep you GMO foods for yourself.

  I hope some one takes a 2X4 and loans it to Harper to give him a backbone, we don't need your f-35 mess. To me the USA is about to be flushed.......when that happens.......the American Government's NSA will be Jailers holding the innocent inside afterall we still have vietnam vets. If you come north LEAVE YOUR POLITICS at Home.    They are FUBAR. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:06 | 4867483 machineh
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People who still have Harper as a PM after all these years have bigger problems than we do.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4867765 Dublinmick
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Not really it is all Diebold voting machines made in Isreal

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:19 | 4867508 Canucklehead
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If you are truly serious about changing Canada, write us a good poem that we can all get behind.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:41 | 4867989 Pie rre
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I've read that the Koch Bros own quite a few of the Canadian oil leases like 40+%.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:56 | 4867322 NoWayJose
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This is why stepping into a civil war where tribes have been fighting each other for centuries never works. Neither does trying to place the moniker of 'civilized' onto such barbarians. Torture, beheadings, mass execution, etc are not in these people's history books - they are in their newspapers.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:00 | 4867330 Jstanley011
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that ISIS has been an integral part of the so-called "Syrian opposition" that has been funded by the "Western Coalition." An "Opposition" that, failing to bring down Assad, has now invaded Iraq. ISIS was created, funded and armed BY THE UNITED STATES...

ISIS would never have been able to generate this type of revenue, following, prestige, and operating ability if the U.S., Europe, Turkey and the other "Friends of Syria" had not passively allowed them to operate with impunity. Just a few short months ago, John Kerry said under oath, in front of the U.S. congress that there were no terrorists, radicals, or dangerous characters in the opposition in Syria. John McCain met with opposition forces in Syria during the time that ISIS and the FSA were cooperating, and calling each other heroes. Much of the weapons and support sent to Syria by the "Western Coalition" has ended up in the hands of the ISIS. Each Israeli airstrike against Syria strengthened ISIS. Each time NATO, and the U.S. imposed sanctions on Syria, it strengthened ISIS.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3f5_1402899924

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:11 | 4867809 Wahooo
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I actually think ISIS is going to grab the oil lands and have their own little petro-kingdom. More modern-day butchers selling oil to us.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:02 | 4867337 surf0766
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The U.S. trained ISIS in Jordan to fight Assad in Syria. O' will never order attacks on his boys.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:32 | 4868116 7.62x54r
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Obama only wants to kill American Republicans ( check out his ROE for troops in Afghanistan ).

Everyone else just gets stern notes.

The Bin Laden hit only happened after a near mutiny.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 05:53 | 4868273 Winston Churchill
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The only constant when dealing with the CIA and Uncle Scam is the doublecross

when you are of no further use.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:07 | 4867345 monad
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According to the UN Accord On Genocide, anyone who claims genocide for any (or no) reason is correct.

Back to you, Tyler.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:15 | 4867367 mogul rider
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Why not just let this vermin blow each up. Walk in, play a little cowboys and Muslims and clean er up once and for all.

 

Fuckung liberals marxist pinkos in power don't have the balls to stand up to this trash.

 

Fucking good old days we'd send in a bomber and ask for forgiveness from the faggots.

 

But not anymore

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:35 | 4867419 chump666
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Those lunatics should have bombed to nothing as they left Saudi Arabia.  Obama should be impeached on this alone.  Now he's gotta rely on Iran to get involved...

Utter Disgrace

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:34 | 4868119 7.62x54r
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Better plan: Stick to defending the US itself, and just buy oil from whoever wants to sell it.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:32 | 4867406 chump666
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The Kurdish fighters (Iran supported), battle hardened and good combatants will stop these "paid" Saudi Arabian lunatics pretty quickly.,

Watch Iran hit Saudi oil fields next.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:00 | 4867463 pupdog1
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A bored indifferent golfer who can't speak without notes is going to get us into WWIII--which he is told by his masters is winnable--because of 800 years of carnage over a wedding gone wrong.

Motherfucker. All we need now is for Hillary to turn into a giant bug.

Kafka couldn't make this shit up.

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:09 | 4867802 Wahooo
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You see, on the golf course he can hit it into the lake two shots in a row, muff it out of the trap, 3-putt every other green, and of course there's always another day and always more courses to play without any need to improve his game. It sounds a lot like his approach to foreign policy.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:00 | 4867927 Donutwarrior
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And he scored himself a 78....cause thats just the kind of guy he is....

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:35 | 4868120 7.62x54r
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He'll want a mulligan after touching off WWIII.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 06:14 | 4868241 NuYawkFrankie
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re All we need now is for Hillary to turn into a giant bug.

Look closer. 

Hillarhoid was a mutated bug from the beginning - an alien lifeform hiding in a pantsuit.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:06 | 4867484 SilverIsMoney
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Guys we don't need to blow them up they'll do that all on their own if we just stay the hell out of it...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:35 | 4868121 7.62x54r
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This.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:09 | 4867486 chump666
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"No one will care now how many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been slaughtered since 2003 because of the fantasies of Bush and Blair. These two men destroyed Saddam’s regime to make the world safe and declared that Iraq was part of a titanic battle against “Islamofascism”. Well, they lost. Remember that the Americans captured and recaptured Mosul to crush the power of Islamist fighters. They fought for Fallujah twice. And both cities have now been lost again to the Islamists. The armies of Bush and Blair have long gone home, declaring victory.

 Under Obama, Saudi Arabia will continue to be treated as a friendly “moderate” in the Arab world, even though its royal family is founded upon the Wahhabist convictions of the Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq – and even though millions of its dollars are arming those same fighters. Thus does Saudi power both feed the monster in the deserts of Syria and Iraq and cosy up to the Western powers that protect it..."

Robert Fisk

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 04:21 | 4868202 dreadnaught
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oh, no..."MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:14 | 4867492 homiegot
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Looks like our Tampon in Chief is fucking up again. I feel another round of golf is in order.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:05 | 4867796 Wahooo
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I think he suffers from a mental disorder. No busy person can play as much golf as Obama. I think he's "hiding" out there on the course. Not sure we've had a functioning President these last 6 years.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:13 | 4867820 the grateful un...
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he maybe fucking cocktail waitresses between holes ( i am not sure what that means)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:36 | 4868123 7.62x54r
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Waiters. The POTUS and the FLOTUS are each others' beards, IMO.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:32 | 4867536 limacon
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Resource wars .

All these regions do not produce sufficient food for their populations .

They are now fighting about whose grandchildren will survive .

could have done better .

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:10 | 4867807 the grateful un...
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human resource. you realize all the people in the middle east, what are they doing? are they growing food, mining metals, cutting timber? no theres just a lot of poor people who are doing almost nothing at all. those people could be working in a Tyson chicken processing plant, or making textiles. dammit were spending trillions to wake these people up, cant they hear the gunfire? get down to the factory tomorrow and start producing stuff, or we'll just keep up the barrage.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:38 | 4867551 Jstanley011
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Here's a summary worth reading:

Sunni-stan Rising

...Sunni fighters from around the Muslim world, having failed to conquer all of Syria from the Assad regime’s Alewites (a branch of Shia Islam) have been pushed eastward into majority-Sunni areas. These extend from east-central Syria into north-central Iraq. A wholly artificial border divides them. In recent days, they have established control over Sunni-majority areas of Iraq, from Fallujah and Mosul to the edges of Tikrit and Samarra. Our foreign policy establishment’s illusion that world events are principally about the United States, and its reflexive commitment to existing international borders, has led it to misunderstand that the region’s wars have been about re-drawing the unnatural borders imposed by the Wilsonians who subdivided the Ottoman Empire in 1919.

 

Our establishment, having neither ideas nor means for stopping this re-drawing, has reacted by hand-wringing (e.g. “the fall of Mosul” WSJ 6/11). Herewith, some suggestions for understanding these events’ implications for U.S. interests...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:57 | 4867602 kellycriterion
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"reach out" That's a really bad misspelling of "knuckle under".

Quadafi tried knuckle under and where did it get him? Assad decided to fight. He probably noticed the Sunnis were attempting to exterminate the Shiite majority in Iraq. What chance would his Shiite minority have in Syria?

Paying any attention to official US policy would be suicidal for Iraq or Iran. To paraphrase some renowned political philosophers;

1. Peace through nuclear weapons.
2. Don't trust, don't trust the verification.
3. If the US bets you the jack of diamonds is going to jump out of the deck and squirt you in the ear with seltzer, wear a shower cap and full body armor.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:02 | 4867613 kellycriterion
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Btw is it too late to adopt Clovis as the Father of Our Country? I've channeled George Washington and he's opting out.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:37 | 4868124 7.62x54r
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I heard he makes great stone spear points.

This could be important in the near future.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:25 | 4867683 surf0766
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Sunni and Shi will eventually join as one. Beck will be right again.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:59 | 4867778 the grateful un...
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even Beck can figure it out

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:33 | 4867707 Thomas the Crane
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Now that the Saudi connection is being investigated, the Bush connection/involvement will also become apparent. Accordingly, when one investigates the consistent outcomes of the exertion of power and control by the elite of this world, the most likely motive is clear, depopulation caused by death and destruction.

They (the elite) have the money and they have the control, what more could they want? What is left for them but their belief that the only way to preserve the planet and their status on it is to reduce the population of the masses?

They've tried poisoning the human but the physical simply adapts. So what's next? My guess would be starvation leading to more war among the masses. It's no secret that cutting off the oil supply would cause massive starvation for all those dependent on the modern agricultural system; thus the rush to domestic production of shale-oil. If starvation and regional wars do not work out for them, the nuclear option is their last straw.

I realize that this scenario is not pleasant; however, there is another option for us to consider - COOPERATION within the principle of EQUALITY. To completely turn this world around, all we the people require to do is cooperate within the principle of equality.

See, it is in the spirit of competition and inequality that we the people allow ourselves to be manipulated and controlled by a few. From the ground up, we create their power base, the system of power and control. Believing that one is justified in having more money – clean water, food, housing etc. – than another, we in relationships to one another from the ground up create the very system of power and control wherein the .0001 percent (or some minuscule number) exercise almost all the control. The power though is ours; we require only to use it correctly.

For those in the USA, don't be fooled by the talk of gun control. Based on the elite's history of supplying the weapons and inducing the locals to fight among themselves and then come in to take control as “the solution,” Americans are more likely to find themselves pointing their weapons at one another in civil war rather than revolutionary war. When and if the oil/food stops, how long do you think it will be before all hell breaks lose in the USA?

There is only One way win this war, one way to turn this system around and it's from the ground up in relationships of equality to one another in support of one another until enough mass is established to naturally bypass the power and control basis of the elite, effectively removing their support and eliminating elitism.

The argument for "my right" to have more money, liberty, land, etc., is the very basis on which the elite exist and exercise our power under their control.

The world is in reverse; however, by COLLECTIVELY working together in the principle of equality, we are able to turn this system around so to prevent WWIII, and establish a (real) new world order based on the principle of equality. There's the one choice.

 

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:22 | 4867845 Savyindallas
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Gun control is  clearly on the agenda -  possibly after the civil war you refer to  -but  it will come. Be assured of that.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:22 | 4868032 Gadfly
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Completely agree.  Well said.  100+

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:45 | 4867739 rsnoble
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I'm about to throw the towel in on this entire crazy fucking planet.  Every day is a fucking disaster.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:02 | 4867788 the grateful un...
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bob schieffer on cbs says its like the catholics and protesants (well get out your history book) i thought that was kinda cute, and appeals to the average nondenominational christian (no equivalent in the ME, but we would like to start one)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:39 | 4868127 conscious being
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Why did the Brits basicly cave in to the IRA?

They needed to keep the masses focused on the meme that Muslims are terrorists and not white, Irish, catholics.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 04:11 | 4868196 OldPhart
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I'm a white, american-irish, catholic...and i endorse this statement.

I literally AM the blonde haired, blue-eyed devil out to rape your mothers and daughters.

(well, WAS blonde until the silver set in...and rapes are delayed until my wife agrees to give me my viagra.)

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:49 | 4867746 Dublinmick
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If he said that, look for information coming soon he has traveling anthrax vans and other WMD.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4867761 tony wilson
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nobody remembers the lies that is why they are washed and repeat looped.

a complex fit for james bond bad guy

rumsfeld said this is serious

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhGHxw0mSo

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:16 | 4867833 Dublinmick
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Assies can always be counted on to bend over for the empire. Ned Beatty was the last Australian

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:58 | 4867923 Rock On Roger
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Is an assie a convict like Ned?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4867764 the grateful un...
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all these definitions are useless. iraq is shiite, iran is shiite and they fought a ten year war. (forget that) syria is a government by shia law, the sunni rebels in syria want shia law, (forget that) iran has shia law, but its shiite not sunni (forget that) there was no al qaeda anywhere except afghanistan, until 9/11, is al qaeda sunni? is al qaeda anything but a CIA shadow organization (we wont forget that)  college students in Turkey protest over no beer on campus, Turkey is shia law (definitely forget that)

everybody wants a piece of Syria: Russia, Israel, US

the western powers want the oil in Iraq. now Iran has a golden opportunity to seize Basra. will they bargain that chip for peace with US/Israeli lobby? (only if they are stupid)

the sauds and kuwait have no skin in the game with ISIS, the don't want the threat of revolution to creep into their ancient and corrupt monarchy (they hate ISIS)

ISIS has options other than returning to Syria, that is after in the global fishbowl. part of the global chessboard. leave that and move on down south. kuwait, and more.

ergo the sauds encourage obama to defeat ISIS. bloody debacle in the desert. obama pays his dues to his supporters, closes the window on neocons who would call him wimp.

ISIS looks very vulnerable. a few mass shootings, a sanctimonious us president, and some barking neocons

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:53 | 4868068 mc225
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iraq is only shiite in the area around basra, right? under saddam, sunnis made up the ruling 'baath' party.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 22:58 | 4867773 Dublinmick
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Canada has just been allowed to think they were nature loving peaceful people for so long they were aghast when the queen's men informed them they were Privy

Canada and would attack on demand like the rest of the retards.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:42 | 4867893 steelrules
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Does take an act in parlement though, if that helps. We did stay out of Iraq.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:55 | 4867913 Rock On Roger
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French Canadians have big balls.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:54 | 4867909 Rock On Roger
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Not me, fuck her, the bitch.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:17 | 4867834 Ocean22
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One minute Message to the American people.

http://youtu.be/_QZLuu_8du4

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:09 | 4867866 kchrisc
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Shia PM getting nervous that the DC US' CIA is about to "Ngo Dinh Diem" him.

I wonder if he's heard how wonderful Switzerland is this time of year?!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:35 | 4867868 earleflorida
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About the 'New Iraq' and Islam v. West:   Islam Inflamed; A Middle East Pictured  by James Morris c.1957 (Part Four pgs. 308-10 excerpts *(Ibid)

Quote:     "Right in the Heart of of this variegated country lies the city of Baghdad, the driving force of the new Iraq. If Iraq is a country of many races, Baghdad remains uncompromisingly Arab. In the Middle Ages it was known to the Muslims as the city of Peace, and it is still one of the focal points of Arab consciousness, the only rival to Cairo as the capital of the Arab world. For at least a century Baghdad sheltered the greatest conglomeration of wealth and learning on earth; it was once the Alexandria and the Manhattan of its time. To this day, of all the cities of Islam, it retains the most potent allure, and there are few simple citizens of the West who will not respond, if not with yearning, at least, with wonder, to the old magic of its name.

Almost  everyone who lives in Baghdad for long, grows to like it, and the Baghdadis, as easy-going, arm-in-arm, slightly raffish kind of people, soon endear themselves to most foreigners. Cairo is bigger and brassier, Beirut more sophisticated, Damascus lovelier, Amman more demure, Riyadh nearer the mores of the desert; but for me Baghdad remains, in its sleazy old way, the most interesting and the most hopeful of the Arab capitals.

Downstream for example, is a great new bridge, built by Germans, which is to link Rashid Street with the expanding northern suburbs. There is the site of the new parliament building, a structure of dubious value in 1956 (for as it happens all political parties are banned) but worthwhile as an ostentatious hostage to progress; it is an enormous structure in vaguely caliphean style, all pillars and Moorish arches.

Over the rooftops you can see the handsome white block of a new bank; clean, functional, and apparently incorruptible; it is only the first of a series of banks going up in Baghdad's Wall Street, displacing many a shuttered, tumbling money-changer's, and helping to eradicate the memory of those shrewd and subtle Jewish bankers who , until the establishment of Israel, dominated the financial life of this city. (Nearly all the Jews have left Iraq now, and their talents have been badly missed.) Big new roads radiate from the heart of Baghdad. Comfortable new suburbs sprout in its shadow.

Do not equate Baghdad with the raucous hustle of Kuwait. Baghdad is still preeminently a dusty and crumbly city, instinct with memories of the Turks, and here and there among the palm trees on the river bank there are rows of fine old-fashioned houses, with charming crooked balconies over the water, all ups and downs and courtyards, date palms and wrought iron, with high rooms and rickety guest chambers, and fountains in the gardens."        end quotes

Ps. Why is this of interest? Think of the Flowchart article that Tyler posted today...'

jmo

thankyou Tyler

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 23:41 | 4867891 El Hosel
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Iraq "not going as planned".... What Plan?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:25 | 4868034 earleflorida
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After wwii iran [persia] and iraq were officially the property of the USA. france and britain could share the gulf, but the Great Persian Empire (Iran and Iraq) was ours, period.

the ussr was interested in the ME, but not necessarily for energy, rather for geography-- to and fro the black sea by the bosphorus straits, the dardenelles into the sea of mamara dumping into the aegean sea all via turkey

syrian ports were never challenged... but, what the ussr was interested , or better said preoccupied with the overall consolidation of eastern europe, and the baltics. a huge mass-land grab. if stalin hadn't died in 1953, perhaps the ussr would have ventured moar into the ME  vast oil reservoirs, but... the ussr had all the energy it needed at home in the largest land mass country in the modern world.

but, the communist were active in egypt along with the germans before and after wwii, but only as a pest to keep the west on their toes, and as a divergence.

jmo  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:33 | 4868118 earleflorida
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addendum:    the plan has never changed once america was the nwo hegemonic king--

Quotes {(pg 250 [oil and Abadan]) (pg 50-1 [the Americans])} from same book and author above:

 "Reason and friendship played little part in the oil politics of the Arabs, and scarcely more in the business negotiations of the West. The relationship between states and companies was, in general, one of the uneasily stanched blackmail. The Arabs for the time being wanted Western technical help anyway; the companies, it need hardly be said, wanted the oil.                                        The shift in ownership, indeed, has generally been within the Western community. British, French, and Dutch companies were all represented in the ME, but the most important producer had long been the Americans. They exploited the Saudi and Bahraini oilfields outright, had a half-share in Kuwait and a substantial cut in the Irai, Persian, and Qatari fields. Britain, on the other hand, had only a half-share in Kuwait and a major share in the Iraqi, Persian, and Gulf fields. In 1939 the American share in the (ME) Middle East oil production was thirteen (13%) percent and the British sixty (60%) percent. By 1956 the American share was sixty-five (65%) percent and the British thirty (30%) percent. This was partly the result of diplomatic pressure--- American interests were first admitted to a share of Iraqi oil as a result of State Department intervention, and no doubt the same is true in Persia (Iran).                                         The US controlled Saudi Arabia and Iraq, Persia were off limits to everyone except the American's, period!        end Quotes  

Note: reference the Baghdad Pact and the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo *(OPEC originates)

Ps. as I've mention,... the plan has always been in enforcement as long as the USSA is the worlds greatest imperialist/fascist power of pure exceptionalism....

again jmo  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:10 | 4868020 sosoome
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Iraq, thanks to the U.S. ousting Saddam, is now the battle ground between Iran and Saudi Arabia. This war is inevitable. Shiite and Sunni hate each other. They each want to build their own Islamic super state, and they both want Baghdad .

It seems to me if we just leave them alone, they will be plenty busy killing each other, and won't have time to pester us.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:20 | 4868030 A Dollar Short
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I see thick smoke, in our future sky..

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:51 | 4868063 steelrules
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A look inside the nation and the iron fist of the house of Saud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zgifyiqnA#t=1545

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:01 | 4868145 mrmister
Wed, 06/18/2014 - 06:56 | 4868323 Wahooo
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Good grief, no wonder he 3-putts all the time. Somebody give that boy a lesson!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:58 | 4868182 monad
Wed, 06/18/2014 - 04:18 | 4868190 dreadnaught
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Is it ISIS or ISIL?    some have said that this is all the creation of the CIA.....just like the "Ukraine rebels"  I know that we must contain Israel or the whole thing will explode

if only the Sunni and Shiite and Kurds would unite against their common enemy

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 06:57 | 4868324 Grouchy Marx
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I think Iraq might have worked if it had been structured as a three-state government, with most power residing in the individual states. 

Unfortunately, because the United States is so far removed from a "union of states", as originally created, none of the policy makers from the US would ever think of such a structure, because they are so acclimatized to all power residing at the federal level. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 07:46 | 4868404 L_Conquistador
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Better yet, get out the popcorn and watch them go at it.  Maybe some airstrikes here and there in support of whichever side seems to be losing. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:32 | 4868603 One World Mafia
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Summing it up in one sentence: Unless Maliki caves in to NATO/Saudi Arabia, the West will not turn on al-CIA-duh's dumb recruits until the job is done.

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