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President Obama To (Re)Explain His Iraq Strategy - Live Feed (Delayed Until 1315ET)
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"Boots on the ground" or no boots-on-the-ground? Airstrikes or no airstrikes? Maliki "in" or "out"? ISIS Sanctions? Red lines? YouTube clips? President Obama has his hands full dealing with this self-created SNAFU... but we are sure this press conference will clear it all up (likely as Yellen noted yesterday, it's just "noise")...
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I think we are in the Failed State category already.
Anyone distrusted always has some splainin' to do. He went from constantly campaigning to reputation damage control.
The question is what comes after, "Provoke Uprising?"
"I WONT STAND FOR THIS! Someone get me a chair." - Obama
Gotta love somebody buying half billion of gold futures this morning......
Another fucking coincidence, no?
To ArLiight or Not to ArcLight, that is the question.
How many rounds per minute can a AC-130 spit out?
Look at the title " President Obama delivers a statement on Iraq"
Delivers a statement? By who? Is that like delivering a pizza?
Go get your shinebox Chalky!
pods
Send in the SF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXcnlie9k8w
Did anyone catch any actual content between the "I"s and "blah"s?
>>>BREAKING: OBAMA UNFRIENDS ISIS, THREATENS ADDITIONAL SOCIAL MEDIA SANCTIONS
>>>OBAMA THREATENS USE OF INTERNET MEMES
'Boots on the ground?' Should be 'boot up his butt!'
News is breaking that ISIS has control of Saddam's chemical weapons manufacturing and storage facilities. If Obama trots this out, what are all those libtards going to say about the false claims of the Bush administration? Of course the Neotards will be jumping for joy.
PODS
Think about that report for a moment. Do they mean to tell us that 11 years after crashing the place allegedly due to these facilities, that these facilities still exist? That they are operational? What?
Lol, this man who is suppossed to be the "leader of the free world" looks like he wants to say: "Gosh, still 2 years with that shit before i can go play golf full time every day".
The country would be happy to accept his resignation at any time. Immediately is preferred.
The Marines might not understand the threat.
There is no way CIA-Obama is going to be ordered to bomb the CIA's 'terrorists" in Iraq or Syria.
They are expendable, c'mon.
he doesn't have to order the mercs bombed. all he has to do is order that a few weddings and schools get bombed, and then the MSM tells you that the terrorists got their asses kicked. mission accomplished.
Being doublecrossed by Uncle Scam is the only thing you can be certain of
if you deal with him.Just a matter of when.
I don't think he'll have any more problem throwing them under the bus than he had throwing Stevens under the bus.
Long tar and feathers? Boiled rope?
"Promote Downsizing" - of the govt.
That is how a politician thinks. We can just have a press conference and smooth things over.
I can't wait for the day when they hold an important press conference and nobody shows up.
pods
I think the President's strategy here should be steer clear of the rough to the right of the fairway, setting up a nice pitch to the wide green right over the water. Hopefully he can pull it up short of the slope into the sand.
I think he chili-dipped that pitch. Now he is going to go all John Daly on Iraq.
"Chili dipped the wedge!"
Love Tin Cup.
"You got the shot pods."
I read that in David Feherty's hushed voice.
Amazing, I thought it in that voice too.
It's like Schroedinger's cat. Is it a failed state, or are we looking for a pretext to invade? Until the observation is made (i.e. a real decision is made on invasion, not some BS fed to us by the MSM about a decision,) we won't know. It could be either.
Re: It could be either
Well, as it's a game, the "failed state" box is just the end of the player's turn. The next player then moves from "failed state" to the "Foreign country" box. Each player takes turns playing until somebody pours gasoline on the playing-board and sets it on fire simulating a "nooklar" war.
I'm hoping for a mass of worldwide civil wars. I'd rather worry about bullets and whatnot than nuclear fireballs and fallout being taken up by my crops. At least worldwide civil wars leave more hope for the survivors, regardless of the horrors that they would have to face.
Re: I'm hoping for a mass of worldwide civil wars.
Oh, you're playing the advanced game rules. I was playing the quick-game rules.
Some civil wars may involve nukes. Try Pakistan.
The Anti-Midas is on a role. Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq....all under his watch. Egypt managed to gain control of their wahabi assholes. The rest? Not so much. Syria held on only as a protectorate of Russia. Obama could care less if a nation state fails.
You left out Ukraine.
Thank you! That was an oversight on my part. Duly noted.
I don't understand why China hasn't mved on Taiwan.
The US has never been weaker.
Schrodinger: Who let the cat outta the box?
Heisenberg: Who knows?
Planck: Nobody knows for sure.
Newton: gold, bitchez!
ooo, ooo, OOO, ooo: Who let the cats out !
Obahama Men.
Nobody got my Isaac Newton joke...he set the gold price for English empire's metallic standard ...
Also Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.
THat is what the reporting here would have you think..
Iraqi armed forces preparing to take mosul back after securing the refinery.
http://www.abna.ir/english/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2014/06...
59 assholes being brought to justice after deserting, and standing down allowing this to start and allowing their troops to be massacred.
http://www.abna.ir/english/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2014/06...
So, not a failed state despite the best efforts of the west and saudi arabia.
And I think that IS the plan:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/18/the-isis-fiasco-its-really-an-attack-on-iran/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9tExYbjm8&feature=youtu.be
That's a great article from Mike Whitney. My favorite bits: "Friedman also notes the Status of Forces agreement which would have allowed U.S. troops to stay in Iraq. Al Maliki rejected the deal which enraged Washington setting the stage for this latest terrorist farce. Obama intends to reverse that decision by hook or crook. This is just the way Washington does business, by twisting arms and breaking legs. Everybody knows this." &
"Is Obama’s reluctance to launch an attack on Isis indicate that he wants to diminish Iran’s power in Iraq, redraw the map of the Middle East, and create politically powerless regions run by warlords and tribal leaders?
Yes, yes and yes."
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
Iraq's Break Up is the Real "Mission Accomplished" - #NewWorldNextWeekhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjH-7ZR8JVM&feature=youtu.be
"knowingly lied"
Is that like, "The arsonist knowingly set the fire?!"
You fucked up
Please tell us how you're going to correct your mistakes?
Play more golf?
Late again
BPT
according to his tribe, he's not late
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Black+People+Time
First he'll start by washing his balls, then a golf game, steamy bath with Reggie, another golf game, more ball washing, reading his teleprompter stating how "clear" he is, then he'll read about his decision in the news.
My respect, you do seem to belong to the inner circle. You just published the Presidents day schedule on the Internet! Run, get your passport and run. Take the next flight to Moscow :-D
When he's up there think of him as the head Martian dude from the movie mars attacks. Rack Rack , rack. Translation don't run we are your friends
GREAT graphic! It's a keeper.
In "three words" if we want to salvage what is left of this Country and the World "Impeach this Motherfucker" or reap the whirlwind!
And hang every duplicitous bastard and bitch that looks the other way to allow this 'M-F' the temerity to tell the American people he doesn't even need to answer that Question regarding the "Big C" he placed his hand on twice to execute, protect and defend!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/18/politics/us-iraq/I think he is going for the Dirty Sanchez. Or maybe the Philly Steamer.
That would be a Cleveland Steamer Moe.
I think O's scar on his head might have been from Reggie giving him a Donkey Punch while wearing a ring.
pods
Thanks for the correction amigo. You are correct of course.
It used to be something big when a president gave a speech.
Now?
(that is a good thing)
pods
The president speaks gold soars. So...
Or is everybody preparing for another fuckup.
I wonder how many othe ISIS arms in Iraq came from us in Benghazi from that arms running operation
Sshhhhhhhhh...this is to save par
What is the "Live Chat" option? Is that the straight to NSA chatroom?
And now, LIVE from Neverland Ranch On The Potomac, its an important message from the TOTUS (as read by broke obomba)
Bronco Bama
"these are our terrorists Mr. President. We should be able to kill them better than anybody."
When Barry gives you lemons, turn it into lemondae............
If he invades, that leaves a hole here for for the libtards, and then they're trouble comes. Or something like that.
Seems the public wants to try the easy way first, with voting.
If the voting does not go as expected, then Christmas is going to suck on a level never before seen.
Soap
Ballot
Jury
Ammo
Since our government is so corrupt, you can exclude the jury box.
Has this guy ever showed up on time?!
Shhhh, like the guy said above. This is to save par. Don't rush the guy.
Well of course it will be delayed...When has Monkey boy ever started anything on time...Community organizers don't follow a time table....Plus Monkey Boy has to eat his low fat, nutritious lunch that Gorilla face Michelle made him.
delayed as the Prez is having difficulties finishing the 18th hole.
just another day at the office.
you can tell people's character by their lack of punctuality.
To be or not to be
I am eagerly awaiting Code Pink's response......
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(crickets)
"self created SNAFU"
Come on, that's a bit rich.
The fact that Cheney and company weren't charged with treason and rotting in jail at the least is the biggest joke on this country of all.
I'm with Ron Paul on this one. Get out, stay out, we can't fix a 1,400 year old tribal fued, and we can't afford to start 3 more wars based on our addiction to oil. And yes, that means the price of oil will probalby go up and all the attendant effects of that.
While I agree with you about Cheney and company, the fact that Obama and company are following the exact same game plan, which is the same game plan that has existed since (well) the Roman Empire, I suspect there is only one game plan possible for the country which is unfortuate enough to have the world's biggest dick (at any particular point in history).
Totally agree on your bigger/longer view here, that's not what I'm addressing. None of this shit matters in the long term when looking at inevitable empire decline.
The sentence I am pulling the "self created SNAFU" quote from is implying there is something different that Obama could have done to prevent theis other than a permanant military occupation of Iraq, which is not an option to anyone rational.
I'm no fan of Obama, but I am a fan of being intellectually consistent if you have a blog as widely read as this, which ZH has really strayed from in the past year....many of these articles on ZH these days seem to imply that even when Obama (or any president) does something that Ron Paul and TP'ers wanted (out of Iraq and all foreign occupations) that he is now somehow at fault when shit hits the fan. They swing from everything is Obama's fault, to it actually doesn't matter which part is in power as they are all serving the same masters....it can't be both of those at the same time.
There is no way for us to keep a lid on the shitstorm we started in the Middle East 60 years ago byu drawing arbitrary lines on a map and assigning terrorities to warring tribes. We are going to have to step back and let the locals figure this out, it's going to be ugly, and yes it's going to be a disaster for oil/US$ supremacy etc. Throwing more troops at the problem changes nothing.
Laughing and saying this is just some Obama created SNAFU is infantile.
If you hang around a bit, I think you'll find that the Tylers play this crowd like a fiddle. There's always Red Team (R)etard bait, and Blue Team (D)umbasses bait; all of which is click bait and flame bait.
Not much new on here for some time now. All groups thrive on hopium or anti-hopium. This is an anti-hopium site and there's been nothing to be happily negative about for quite some time now. The would was supposed to implode 5 years ago, yet the pathologically optimistic are still getting blissfully richer every day.
Yes, and yes.
WANTED- Shia Islam, Sunni Islam, Syriac Christian, Jew, Yazidis, or Mandaean Iraqi citizen (domestic or expate) to lead puppet government. Must be willing to sell petroleum for USD, exclusively, upon threat of hanging. Zoroastrianists need not apply. Send CV to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C.
Crossing noon, maybe time for a drink. A root-beer. No sense getting depressed about things.
So he runs on CP time.
That's either:
In order to preserve this symmetry, every violation of the combined symmetry of two of its components (such as CP) must have a corresponding violation in the third component (such as T); in fact, mathematically, these are the same thing. Thus violations in T symmetry are often referred to as CP violations. The CPT theorem can be generalized to take into account pin groups. In 2002 Oscar Greenberg proved that CPT violation implies the breaking of Lorentz symmetry. This implies that any study of CPT violation includes also Lorentz violation. The overwhelming majority of experimental searches for Lorentz violation have yielded negative results. A detailed tabulation of these results is given by Kostelecky and Russell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPT_symmetry
or
Colored People's Time.
My compliments to Andy Singer on the above chart. When I first read it, I almost spewed coffee all over my keyboard. Funniest thing I ever read. Then reality set it and I realized how incredibly accurate it is. Truly sad. 1000 thumbs up Andy.
Putin's just gotta be laughing his butt off - he's undoubtedly enjoying the implosion of American Empire in every dimension.
Can we please get a Gorbachev-style birthmark to paste on all pics of Obalma, right on his forehead? This is the perfect guy to preside over the collapse.
The eagle has landed.
Yup on the 17th hole.
"There is not much I can do since these people are, like myself, the CIA's guys."
Will he open with new executive orders protecting the LGBT "community"?
"I will not only Destroy America, I will Destroy your culture and every thing you hold sacred!"
"I have spread my asscheeks and shit on you every day, for 6 years, and you do nothing. You deserve what I am creating for you."
Eventually
Monkey boy...get off your knees and stop blowing Wookie....time to tell us more double talk and your famous "Let me be clear" BS....
Monkey boy...you operating on Chicago time, Hawaii time or CP Time????
Just to sweetin the pot of this most momentus of events...
The "two faced" serpent known as BBC has spoken again with authority. Feels like late September 2001 ALL OVER AGAIN!...
And as a bonus the U.S. announces it's first "first strike initiative"... Talk about your timing!!!
Hmm. I thought Israel had that one covered with a nuclear option in every embassy they have worldwide that the president spoke of in front of the Hague in March of this year but "fell on deaf ears"?...
Some of us certainly thought that was a newsworthy event that had longevity but certainly not the Zionist chosen who own the media!
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27844749 http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/06/18/367536/us-shifts-nuclear-strategy-to-first-strike/Can we take the drones out of our skies and put them in theirs?
We shall taunt you a second time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2661878/ISIS-supporters-make-moc...
At least with Hitlary we will get some "What does it matter!?!?" type moments instead of this droning fan motor.
What's he saying? I'm interested but I just can't stand listening to the smarmy motherfucker.
The leader of Iraq, whoever he may be, needs to ask for Russia's/Putin's protection. It is his only way to protect himself and his people but it, probably, won't happen.
Of course, then he's owned by Russia, Putin and those oligarchs.
uh uh that has attracted uh uh .....uh....uh....uh
Whats the over "UH"nda on how many times he says that ???
This fucking country
Is Obamao talking about this group when he says "ISIL"?
http://isil.org/
Like he and his pathetic wife give a fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJgWMI0hch8
" All this for a fucking flag "
I hate to admit it, but she has a point there.
America decided it would rule Iraq. All the money and all the lives and we are worse off than before Bush decided to conquer Iraq and rule it by proxy. Our proxy government is useless and bllod flows while terrorits grow into full size armies. Our CIA is allowed to fund so called friendly Al-Qaeda in Syria. Now we speak of more money and nuts like McCain want another invasion.
So, when to the war crimes trials begin? Isn't it times Americans put on trial our Presidents and our CIA for vast crimes against the world and against America? Look at the costs. Money, a trillion. Lives, countless thousands, results, bad all around. Time for trials, send in the cops and begin arresting these ass clowns. Find Bush at his ranch, pull Obama right off the stage and throw cuffs on him. We, as Americans, refuse to change our ways, we do not fight these fools, we often vote for them. End of story. We are our own worst enemies.
Looks like Obamao and his handlers trained ISIS in Jordan at those "secret" camps.
Either they are really stupid or this was the plan. I think it was the plan.
Blackwater's too $$$$$.
That was his best presser ever.
so is this iraq 3.1?
No, he said there would be no US fighting. When ISIL gets within 500 yards of the embassy, the US troops are to drop their M16s and surrender.
Fuck that noise. You're a youtube propaganda video if you surrender to ISIS.
Same old shit, Obozo flaps his lips says nothing that is coherent. The media pee their little pants with excitment, then ask simpleton questions. Get usless answers, then report with glee how important everything the chimp said was.
Pathetic!
I've been round a while, no doubt so have a lot of you.
This miserable excuse of a human being was foisted upon you lot for some reason, I have no doubts about it. But at the same time, I have seen some of the worst, and I mean worst examples of human excrement passed off on us lot as 'Leaders' but this imbecilic cunt takes not just first place, but the biscuit.
Fuck me, I have a set of drain rods that never get used, and I mean never, I bought them just incase. They are worth ten times what this cunt is as valuable as.
The 'Telepromter', has way more value than this skinny necked cunt in a badly fitting suit will ever have. And years ago my old man told me, at some point with the vast majority of us keeping our mouths shut, we would end up with morons running the show, instead of voicing an opinion we became apathetic, we no longer cared, and here we are.
This idiot isnt just a moron, he is a bonified, grade 'A' cunt.
Its going to take a revolution my redskin friends.
;-)
You're being very unfair. You reach a point where the corruption, the lies take over. Large amounts of self destructiveness become structural. Our government literally is incapable of action without self destructiveness. It's a question of how much even if they could identify something legitimate to do. Of course that become progressively harder as well.
Could be Kelly, could be indeed but this is where apathy takes you.
This lot here, and your lot there are not my or your fault. Its taken as a collective, we are all to blame as we said nowt, done nowt and let them do whatever they want in our names.
But I do believe the spell has been broken, as more people, thanks to the web are now getting engaged, and not agreeing with the status quo, thats why 30% of the folk over here voted either UKIP, or anti-EU, and why for the first time in a hundred years, you lot do the same.
At some point we have to say no. That point is being reached. And thanks to 'People' like that idiot who plays far to much golf for the leader of the free world. He is, and I mean this with coviction, the worst example of a statesman I have ever seen.
He makes GW look competant, and no-one, and you know this could make that true.
A pre-programed golfer?
Dog give me strength.
The only certainty from an Obama speech where he gets confronted with his waffling positions is the statement -"We have not changed our position".
I don't claim to be an historian, but what I do know of history is that virtually no empire has ever been defeated from an outside threat. They have all rotted and collapsed, from within. It seems to be the human condition. Once members of a society no longer have to struggle for their daily living, a large percentage become lazy and complacent dependending on others for their survival. Once that happens that society inevitably collapses. Sadly, the founders of this country knew this and attempted to put safeguards in the Constitution to protect us from ourselves. I fear that they failed. Welcome to Rome v2.0.
Might as well just conquer the entire country of Iraq, get the NSA to spy on all the citizens, detain unruly citizens without a trial, confiscate property of those that we don't agree with, and get strong-armed militarized cops to patrol the streets. Works here...
If the situation continues to deteriorate, Obama will have to transfer some of the drones flying over the Bundy Ranch to Iraq.