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NSA Whistleblower Speaks: "The Ultimate Goal is Total Population Control"

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the U.S. This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.

 

- NSA Whistleblower Bill Binney

Long-time readers of Liberty Blitzkrieg will be no strangers to Bill Binney, one of the earliest NSA whistleblowers. Well before anyone had ever heard of Edward Snowden, in July 2012, I posted the following: NSA Whistleblower: U.S. Government Creating Dossiers on Millions of Citizens. In it, I noted:

Bill Binney is no joke. He worked for the NSA for 30 years before resigning because of concerns he had regarding illegal spying on U.S. citizens in 2001. It seems that the claim I and many others have made for years, that the “War on Terror” is a gigantic fraud used to instill fear and further the creation of an unconstitutional surveillance state in America is absolutely true. The “terrorists” they have declared war on are the American people themselves. 

Mr. Binney thankfully has never stopped fighting for The Constitution that he swore to defend, unlike most other government officials who happily stomp all over the basic civil liberties enshrined in our founding document. He had some very choice words recently and it would be wise for all of us on planet earth to pay very close attention. We learn from the Guardian that:

William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.

 

“At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”

 

The NSA will soon be able to collect 966 exabytes a year, the total of internet traffic annually. Former Google head Eric Schmidt once argued that the entire amount of knowledge from the beginning of humankind until 2003 amount to only five exabytes.

 

He praised the revelations and bravery of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and told me that he had indirect contact with a number of other NSA employees who felt disgusted with the agency’s work. They’re keen to speak out but fear retribution and exile, not unlike Snowden himself, who is likely to remain there for some time.

 

It shows that the NSA is not just pursuing terrorism, as it claims, but ordinary citizens going about their daily communications. “The NSA is mass-collecting on everyone”, Binney said, “and it’s said to be about terrorism but inside the US it has stopped zero attacks.”

Yep, as noted in the post: NSA Chief Admits “Only One or Perhaps Two” Terror Plots Stopped by Spy Program. Now back to the Guardian article.

“The Fisa court has only the government’s point of view”, he argued. “There are no other views for the judges to consider. There have been at least 15-20 trillion constitutional violations for US domestic audiences and you can double that globally.”

 

Binney recently told the German NSA inquiry committee that his former employer had a “totalitarian mentality” that was the “greatest threat” to US society since that country’s US Civil War in the 19th century. Despite this remarkable power, Binney still mocked the NSA’s failures, including missing this year’s Russian intervention in Ukraine and the Islamic State’s take-over of Iraq.

Well, I question the entire ISIS story and personally wonder if the U.S. is not perfectly fine with what is happening over there as a justification to future crackdown on civil liberties in the name of “fighting ISIS.”
With evidence that there could be a second NSA leaker, the time for more aggressive reporting is now. As Binney said: “I call people who are covering up NSA crimes traitors”.
Now watch this interview of Bill Binney from 2012:
 

Full article here.

 

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Sun, 07/13/2014 - 18:36 | 4953547 omniversling
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See this movement to deprive NSA data centre of water to cool the servers:

http://www.backbonecampaign.org/frontpage-news/121-nsa-protests-reach-ne...

In http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/170908-episode-max-keiser-624/ Max interviews Arjen Kamphuis about his new and free digital manual “The Infosecurity Handbook For Journalists” and about driving the cost of NSA spying from the current 0.08 cents per person per day to $10,000 per person per day – thus driving them out of business.

Get positive, get busy, be the change. Read up, wise up, rise up...

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 09:30 | 4949654 pakled
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Queue music: Every-body wants to rule the world...

 

/Tears for Fears

 

Since Cain killed Abel, group A has longed to dominate group B.

 

With technology this is now possible on an unimagined scale.

 

There is only ONE way out of this, and since we are group B we should consider it's merit...

 

We must evolve the species. The need to control others is a function of the [basically animalistic] EGO.

 

Transcend the ego and you transcend the need to control.

 

Send love to the NSA. Seriously. This is not a peace-love-dove, woo woo based notion. This is a workable solution, if done in mass.

 

Every thought of hate strengthens them. Every Fuck You backfires and creates unintended consequences.

 

The ultimate goal

is population control

boy oh boy

does that ever blow

 

there is a way out

it will take some clout

the secret is within

don't look without

 

find your true self

inside your heart

at the end of the day

it's the only way

 

The Intention Experiment, The Bond

 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 09:18 | 4949678 Seize Mars
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There is one and only one way this shit stops. End the fucking Fed.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 09:25 | 4949687 buzzsaw99
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The only use for any of that is blackmail of gubbermint officials.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 09:31 | 4949692 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Was talking with a few people this morning at breakfast, they kept saying "have you heard the news?....Lebron James is returning to cleveland"! It's still quite clear too many are not awaken. This breakdown is going to be an epic fucking meatgrinder, prepare to get right with God.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:27 | 4952085 Farqued Up
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Oh my, how novel, Bread and Circuses in one sitting. Did you shower afterwards? Perhaps we should choose better chatter mates, I know I need to.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 09:30 | 4949693 cjhoward71
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"Bill Binney is no joke. He worked for the NSA for 30 years before resigning because of concerns he had regarding illegal spying on U.S. citizens in 2001."

 

So he worked a whole careeer, earned a full retirement then resigned.  How courageous!  ok, now I can start reading the article.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4949917 messystateofaffairs
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What does the man not wanting to become a martyr to save your sad ass got to do with anything. He sent you a message. Now go buy the KY jelly and wait your turn.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 10:28 | 4949748 Inthemix96
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I am going to be polite here ladies and gentlemen.

Do you idiots working for the likes of the NSA, GCHQ, the Mossad have any idea just what you are going to unleash directly onto your tax-payer funded arses?  You do understand you cunts, that the public mood has shifted, its over, you just dont know it yet.  One third of the people who could be bothered to vote here voted UKIP.  Does that not register you criminally minded, publicaly funded cunts?

Look around you, speak to others, speak to your own families you idiot fucking cunts.

What the fuck do 'You' do it for?

The reckoning you immoral bastards, is right fucking behind you.

File this under you were mother fucking warned.  You cant run, you cant hide, justice, it will, it will be served.

What utter waste of life you lot are.

Cunts

;-)

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 14:21 | 4950257 cornedmutton
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Also, they're cunts.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:25 | 4951285 Frankie Carbone
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Isn't this a bit too unfair a comparison to all the cunts of the world? I know that cunts are horrible, and incredibly annoying people, but do they really deserve to be called this? 

C = Can't 

U = Understand

N = Normal

T = Things. 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:12 | 4951480 dexter_morgan
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but how do you really feel about them......

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 18:51 | 4953598 omniversling
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My gal objects to your wanton use of the word cunt as an epithet. She says at least cunts are useful.

(Gotta go, she wants to prove her point...)

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 13:35 | 4949751 Felix da Kat
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The purpose of the NSA is to know what you (and the other 7.2 billion people) are intending to do before you do it. And to assign counter-action measures to statistical anomalies when and where necessary.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4949756 SilverIsMoney
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These guys are all heros. A totalitarian hell is being built before us and no one gives a shit.At least these people are putting their lives on the line to let us know.

I'm sure the NSA is watching anyone who posts here so I got news for ya you dickless fucks, you're going to lose! No matter how much data you collect it won't be enough. When you have to reveal yourselves to the world for even an instant that will be enough. When the people finally do wake up to what in the hell you're doing there won't be enough dickless cowards at your disposal to stop us. There will be an army driving to Utah about ready to burn your shit to the fucking ground!

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:38 | 4951300 Frankie Carbone
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What makes me sick is thinking about all those brave men that landed at Omaha, Utah, Juno, Gold, and Sword beaches, dying in droves while walking into a wall of lead and steel, yet the ones behind them still persisted, trudging on in the face of near certain death, to defend the inalienable rights of man. 

They gave the ultimate sacrifice so that we wouldn't suffer under this, and under "THEM".  

And WE GAVE IT TO "THEM" and by our silence have agreed to pay for it!. Jesus H. Christ!!!!!

WE GAVE IT ALL AWAY to the TREASONOUS DOMESTIC ENEMIES among us, without giving as much a shit as to lift our faces out of our iPhones for more than 3 seconds to give a shit. 

Absolutely incredible. Today's average man is emasculated, and if this shit goes down, I care not one bit if they are pink slipped or not. 

In fact, when a guy I am having a discussion with starts talking about "our needing to do "this or that" to defend us from terrorism" I stop him in his tracks, give him a death stare like I am going to pound him into the dirt, and tell him that he's a yellow-bellied girl and that he should be wearing panties. Tell you what, that stare, like your going to rip his fucking lungs out, makes him shit his french cuts. Why? Because he's been feminized and emasculated, that's why. The hunter-gatherer in him has been programmed and browbeaten out of him. 

Most men today are pussies. Don't expect any help from them when TSHTF because chances are that their wives are going to forbid them from leaving the house and even then the best they'll offer you is to serve you coffee and doughnuts behind the lines. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:21 | 4952068 Farqued Up
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Same situation existed in the middle 1770s. Bell curve stuff is over my First Standard Deviation pea brain. One thing for sure, mobs are not monolithic and military discipline thinking is what got Robert E. Lee's pecker pounded. This country would have been saved if the South had fought a guerrilla warfare against a superiorly funded force. Oh no, my dumb ass ancestors defaulted to the plague in the Northeastern Corridor.

Slavery was over anyway within a few years. Follow the money to Uncle Sammy the Robber's coffers and it came from Southern agriculture exports.

Harriet Beecher Shit was just another tool like Angela Bitch of Buchenwald RedCommie Slut Merkel.

Now I feel better. BTW, the South has become polluted with migrants, at least we still have our traditional food, too bad the grits are poisoned by Monsanto's genetically modified with worm shit corn.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 10:39 | 4949757 Salsipuedes
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When the round up commences, I'm confident a great majority of Americans will actually mill about going  "moo" and "baa-aa" to please the stock foremen. There will be vicious fights over who gets to be sheep dog today. Let the culling begin! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mynzbmrtp9I

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:04 | 4949880 messystateofaffairs
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Isn't that how it worked in Nazi Germany? First you hear there is a nude insane rapist with an erection coming towards your household to do his worst. Then when he gets there everybody starts to "reason" with him. Then when he starts to do his stuff everybody starts jockying for the KY jelly. I guess in the USSA you could personalize the concept with "dirty" Dick Cheney.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 11:22 | 4949817 GooseShtepping Moron
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Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was a gigantic fraud to provide cover for the roll-out of the police state is no longer worth reading. Mike Krieger can join Paul Craig Roberts and Alex Jones in the echo chamber of libertarian fantasists and is now persona non grata as far as I'm concerned.

9/11 Truth is simply the opposite pole of the neocon's dreams of democratic world-improvement. They are both absurd. I believe in 9/11 Sanity.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:59 | 4951343 Frankie Carbone
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I hope that when you are sent to a FEMA camp with no barracks but consisting only of a single large industrial building that you willingly comply because its the patriotic thing to do. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:55 | 4952008 Farqued Up
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Maybe he's Col. Klink? Sgt. Schultz?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 11:18 | 4951569 gallistic
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Paul Craig Roberts farts in your general direction .gov troll....

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 08:07 | 4951731 ToNYC
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!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 06:30 | 4951815 bunnyswanson
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It's high time an investigation in the collapse of WTC 7 commence. 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 11:26 | 4949824 dizzyfingers
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What is http://threatjournal.com ? This just in:

Secretary of Defense: Islamic State
Poses "Imminent" Threat to the U.S. July 12, 2014 Between July 7-9, 2014, AlertsUSA issued the following
related Flash messages to subscriber mobile devices:

7/9 - SecDef Hagel warns new Islamic State poses "imminent" threat to United States. Says force is sophisticated, dynamic. strong, organized and well financed.

7/7 - US Embassies worldwide moving to heightened state of alert due to increased terror threat. AlertsUSA urges caution and increased awareness if traveling abroad.

I like the warning to people who might be stupid enough to travel in unsettled areas, but isn't that State Dept. job? Is this site State?

If not who/what/why?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 01:47 | 4951662 IridiumRebel
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It's a good thing our borders are air tight.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4949832 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The NSA cannot collect all communications and they are extremely ignorant when it comes to Information Theory
which is supposed to be their exclusive domain. I, for one,
can eat the NSA for breakfast anytime I wish to do so. They
are complete pathetic wimps when it comes to 'intelligence'
gathering and if I were you I would not worry about the information collection capabilities of the MIC or their pathetically shit-for-brains National Security Agency. These
mindless fucks are brain dead wannabe sociopaths and nothing much more than that. Don't let their intimidation
of the American people get to you too much. Their time is fast approaching and I assure all here that I will personally deal with them en masse in due time. Please be patient, my good friends in the USA. I have a plan and it is working out extremely well IMHO.

OCCUPY NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY - OCCUPY EVRYTHING

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949893 JoBob
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I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:49 | 4951994 Farqued Up
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I must need new glasses.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949894 JoBob
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I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949895 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949896 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949897 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4949898 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4949899 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949900 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:23 | 4951392 Incubus
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C-C-Combo breaker!

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949901 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949902 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949903 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949904 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4949905 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949906 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4949907 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4949908 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4949909 JoBob
JoBob's picture

I wonder what kind of profile the NSA has compiled on each of us by analyzing our up and down arrows in response to comments on ZH? With some thoughtful classification of each comment (by machine, of course), giving an up arrow means that I think this way or that way. After a few hundred of those, I'm sure the profile summary tells more about me than I could articulate myself.

Yes, I think we are governed by selfish morons. Yes, I think the whole thing is going to collapse around us. Yes, I own a scoped .308 (among others), and yes, I think we should stay and fight for our rights.

Note to NSA: Please make sure you have that part of my profile right.

The rest of what you know about me is mostly background noise.

JoBob

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 15:04 | 4950395 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Post much, JoBob?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:08 | 4951474 dexter_morgan
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Jobob - after a dozen post of the same thing WE GET IT.

Actually, may explain those occasions where we see someone come in and down arrow every post. Just throwing the profile off.......

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 18:59 | 4953620 omniversling
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yeah, I have trouble getting my comment to stick sometimes...better to preview your comment before posting, or refresh the screen rather than hit the save button over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:19 | 4949920 ToNYC
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jfk got in the way. The war party here to stay; 'till the universal soldier won't play.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:21 | 4949925 JDFX
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The whole world knows ALL our data is being gathered, so I imagine if they squeeze too tight, the pack will turn and deal with it.

Human nature.

The psychopathology of those who feel the need to feel power and control is interesting. Maybe it will be the people who soon place people on top of the pyramid and it will be them who decide 'off with our leaders head ?' 

The top down control system seems a little outadted in these times.

This is the time when humanity 'inverts the pyramid ' . 

 

Tick tock - biatchez ! 

 

 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:56 | 4951556 bunnyswanson
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We were supposed to have been kept in the dark regarding the NSA, bank malfaesance and the transfer of wealth...counting on element of surprise...to overthrow a country and its govt.  Now it is distraction time.  But, too late.  We are onto them and taking our own names.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:22 | 4949927 q99x2
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So put your cell phones in an alluminum cover whenever you travel and don't put anything online. In other words use two seperate devices: one with public info and one with private info. Make them spend a 1000 times more than what they are to obtain meaningless boondoggle info. They are money hungry retards and so are the ones supplying them with the funding.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:26 | 4949933 Dublinmick
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I thought Russell Means summed it up very elogquently just before his death with a message to all Americans, "welcome to the reservation."

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:34 | 4949944 dizzyfingers
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"A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier."  I stopped reading "news" around 1970, felt depressed before I did, felt much better after I stopped. Also true for "women's magazines". Poisonous.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:37 | 4949951 Dublinmick
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I am with you there dizzy, it is probably been 15 years since I watched a mainstream news program. It is a waste of time. My only use for the teevee is watching my collection of CD movies. I will watch a few FSU football games during the season. (alma mater) old habits die hard. But I am pretty sure the games are not rigged.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:52 | 4949985 dizzyfingers
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Mick: We don't have tv at our vacation place.  We watch ancient tv shows via cd. Direct TV calls 40 times a week. Received Mrs. Peel & McNee Avengers in the mail this morning. Non-vacation house still has tv. Commercials take up more and more time so Hubby is pissed but he would miss sports. If we sell that house tv is gone forever.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:43 | 4951974 Farqued Up
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FSU missed the rigging part when they shied away from the SEC. The World Cup is cleaner. Please post it when you see the Crimson Turd get an offensive holding call with SEC refs.

I went to the Rose Bowl BCCCG, congratulations.

Sentimentally I like Germany today but deep down I hope Argentina crams it up the Red Commie Angela Bitch of Buchenwald pie hole.

WAR EAGLE!

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:39 | 4949957 dizzyfingers
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JOBOB WHAT THE HELL????????????????????????

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 12:57 | 4950001 dizzyfingers
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"We are in the iron age"...and when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So true.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 13:03 | 4950014 RealityCheque
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Thats a whole shitload of work they're making for themselves.

Control. Ok, then what? Maintain that control in perpetuity?

Good fucking luck with that you whores, the population of the ZH boards alone is a logistical and idealogical nightmare for you. All this NSA crap is just one more symptom of a bigger story.

Censorship and attempts to stifle freedoms are just massive symptoms of the collapse of an empire. Historically speaking, if you look at any similar episode in history, the same notes are hit again and again. The details might vary but the theme is the same. Desperate measures on the part of the status quo to maintain their position and delay the path of history. It always ends the same way.

If I was one of the agency's monkeys I'd be genuinely questioning what my standing would be, post collapse. Cos it seems to me they'd be exactly the kind of folks that would have no safe harbour anywhere. We all know one of you fuckers is very likely here, reading our comments and telling yourself that you are "looking for terrorists and protecting freedom" (L.O.L!). Your actions determine your own history, and you're going to find yourselves on the wrong side of it if you continue down this road. You may then easily find that your life is forfeit.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 13:15 | 4950053 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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We are already in 'post collapse' and if you check Reditt out you will see that the American Government is already handing out pink slips to

active duty soldiers in Afganistan. The battle hardened warriors in the executive branch of the MIC are absolutely pissed off about it and these

soldiers are going to come back to the USA loaded for bear. And that's exactly when bear hunting season opens in America!

Bon appetit`, America!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 08:11 | 4951873 headhunt
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First rule of fight club

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 08:38 | 4951899 overmedicatedun...
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monsters all have failings, "try a little heroin" my dear said the prostitute to the rich elite reptile...taste this marvelous chocolate muse, with extra flavorings ...a new nail gun is what you need dear.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:28 | 4951953 Farqued Up
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Good analysis Reality Cheque. It may very well be a power collapse panic attack in slow motion with a dying quiver.

Plan and act now on the extent of escape you need, the gates of each control point are closing. I can foresee, if TPTB haven't been guillotined first, after full currency controls they will cancel all passports and issue on an "as needed" basis. Of course, human sacrifices and genocide will be the order of the day. I also believe that bullets will become the reserve currency.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 13:52 | 4950159 get-sum
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Well, they picked the right president to push this into overdrive cuz obummer doesnt know his ass from moochelles ass...

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 16:58 | 4950700 RealityCheque
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Or moochelles 10 inch cock....

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:01 | 4951465 dexter_morgan
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squatchy

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:23 | 4952456 pupdog1
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Bah. Time for a new keyboard.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 14:02 | 4950190 morongobill
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As long as the people can watch celebrity upskirts on tv and have some other group that they can treat like shit, they could care less about the NSA.

Don't look to the masses to get rid of the NSA and surveillance state Amerika.

Afraid this is a job for members of the elite to take on.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 14:33 | 4950301 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The demise of the NSA is already in the works and has been for quite some time. Thanks for calling me 'elite' but I assure you that I am not

a 1%er 'elite'. I'm just smarter than the NSA bozos that eat retard sandwiches too much IMHO.

p.s. you are what you eat, NSA.

:|

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 14:55 | 4950367 yogibear
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And the young people in the military are wiling to die to enrich the banksters and oligarchs?  They swear to uphold the constitution while the banksters and oligarchs intend to destroy it.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 19:12 | 4950727 NuYawkFrankie
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re Binney worked for the NSA for 30 YEARS before resigning because of concerns he had regarding illegal spying on U.S. citizens....

WTF took so long for the penny to drop - was this guy in a coma for 29years???

And with his ludicrous statemnets on NSA "missing" Ukraine crisis & ISIS - both of which are the handiwork of the USSA- I smell a rat, a big fat  Zio-rat, skulking around in the shadows

Look for a formal takeover of NSA by Zio-Stasi DHS - ostensubly to "fix" the problems that Binney so conveniently exposes.

And then look out

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:22 | 4951138 FredFlintstone
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Doncha get a pension after 30 years?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 08:08 | 4951870 headhunt
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'NuYawk' why does 90% of 'NuYawk' vote for these fascist morons?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 19:27 | 4951026 Dublinmick
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I would say the coming break down of various societies, the Mongols are probably in the best position to survive with their nomadic life style. They are definitely "off the grid"

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:17 | 4951115 JD59
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The American population will never be controlled by the PTB. To many 100s of millions of gun owners who love, as Sir William Wallace said "FREEDOM"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Molon Labe!

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:21 | 4951131 FredFlintstone
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LET FREEDUMB RING!!

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:27 | 4951149 nah
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the USA is the best thing that ever happened to the internet bitchez

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:48 | 4951192 Notsobadwlad
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The question to the answer is: "Why do they want total control?"

Seems boring actually ...

Is it because they believe that by being able to do through technology what the creator can do innately that they then become little gods themselves? Lol ... yeah, right.

And if so, so what? What then? What will they do once they are able to know everything about everybody by using technology to spy on them and once they are able to reliably and undetectably implant suggestions into people on a massive or individual scale? What then?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:28 | 4951503 forwardho
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By your comment one may infer that there might never be a time for a gereral resistance to the overreaching control.

There will be no resistance. all lines of communication have been compromised. unless you are recruiting by word of mouth and face to face, your plans will be known.

Just insurance against the day when the EBT cards run dry, the SS checks bounce, and millions of starving people try to take back that which has been usurpt.

Snowden is a Enassay plant sent forth to let all know that its a done deal. The net has been drawn closed, and the always small window of opportunity for overthrow has been nailed shut.

Pitch the tracking devises, and go oldschool.

One time pads.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:06 | 4951935 Farqued Up
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Get their way? See the fool John Roberts if we doubt.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 20:53 | 4951201 hard_working_guy
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I think an article such as this being the headline article on ZH at the weekend could possibly be of far more interest and value to the ennessay than to the readers who frequent here.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:09 | 4951248 Ineverslice
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  this is old.

 bfd

 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:04 | 4951471 Lanka
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To achieve total population control, the PTB must first reduce total population, significantly.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:20 | 4951490 RabbitOne
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In my 35 years as a Data Base Administrator the power of data has always been under estimated. We had an expression “data is power” that I saw business manager fight “to the death” to get because it gave them so much power. So how could the NSA use data about us?

 For example if I were a democrat (gag gag) using NSA data I would look at all the phones that entered each precinct voting place on voting day in the last election. From this I would build estimated republican distribution lists by street for all the states by district. In those precincts in red states that had a narrow margin for the republicans, I would flood the district with illegal alien children (who will gain citizenship and will vote democratic in a few years), build low cost government housing or support industries with government loans for new unionized workers or minimum wage workers.

 By using this redistribution technique it will only take a few states to swing over in the near future to give democrats total control of America for years to come. I would use this technique on big swing states like Texas, Florida or Ohio. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:03 | 4951931 Farqued Up
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Already well beyond that ploy. Why go to that trouble with electronic voting already here? Punch a few keys and voila! The desired results magically appear.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:10 | 4951566 Coletrane
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:15 | 4951571 monad
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This should break your heart, or give you hope.

I AM THE BEST

They don't have it. I DO. I am free.

Follow me.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:40 | 4951574 SameAsItEverWas
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 “greatest threat” to US society since that country’s US Civil War in the 19th century.

Binney seems to not understand our history, but it's hard to be sure from this almost nonsensically-garbled summation.  

The Civil War was about trying to preserve state's rights versus the perpetually-increasing authoritarian federalism ... and which side one?

If the South had been successful in seceding, it would have been a major blow to the trend towards totalitarianism that Binney now says he's opposed to.

If the South had been successful in seceding, maybe the Tenth Amendment would have allowed "The People" to limit federal authority to the list in Article 1, Section 8.  

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 05:37 | 4951590 lakecity55
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The goal of the Obama regime is genocide.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 03:43 | 4951741 dreadnaught
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I pray that God will wipe from the face of the Earth the murderous Zionist Genocidal scum bitches......YESTERDAY.......no wonder GOD hates them.....and why Jesus threw them from the Temple-they are the race of SATAN

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 07:12 | 4951835 NuYawkFrankie
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Amen.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 21:43 | 4954107 Salsipuedes
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My cousin is in the NSA. He always asks questions. Whatever I say, he shakes his head up and down and says, "Is that right?" When I ask him about himself he talks about golf. I think he's a robot and my cousin's in a better place.

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