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Israeli Military "Denies Targeting Children" Slammed For "Not Having The Courage To Talk To Hamas"
In one of the most uncomfortable (and must-see) interviews, UK Channel 4's John Snow 'discusses' Israel's bombing raids and policies towards Hamas with Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev. The interview starts with a punch, "How does killing children on a beach contribute to your purpose of protecting Israeli civilians?" Regev ducks and weaves from question to question, flummoxed when Snow jabs, "if you couldn't tell these were 4 young Palestinian children playing football on a Gaza beach, you need better equipment," only to be slammed towards the end with, "why not be brave and talk directly to Hamas? You haven't got the courage." Not the kind of interview one is likely to see on US TV.
The 4 children hit by Israeli shells while playing on the beach
The aftermath...
And the rather stunning interview...
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Disputing God gave the Zionist anything: The ONLY attribute in human existence that could have some Godlike qualities or that could account of a God is LOVE. And the only thing that could make me think: “those people must be close to God” would be their capacity to forgive, show compassion, show mercy and love. I see NOTHING of these attributes in the Zionists – do you?
@jlee2027
HAHAHAHA
lulz
Ashkezanis were Khazars. They literally never set foot in Israel until Zionism stuck its head out of the septic tank in the late 1800's.
But you wouldn't know anything about that, because you are a good goy.
They aren't "Hebrews" though they have a remote connection, but they aren't Khazars either - although some may have ancient ancestors who were, for sure.
A major study everyone ignored showed that, in terms of female descent, the Ashkenazi are not only not of Hebrew or Khazar origin, but are of ancient European origin...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/science/ashkenazi-origins-may-be-with-...
Most of the studies trying to prove Ashkenazi Jews "are" the ancient Hebrews cherry pick a genetic mutation or two - generally on the Y chromosome. As with the Arab conquest of Palestine, most of the incomers were male... and male Jewish traders and merchants were spread around the Mediterannean for centuries before Christ - meaning they always were happy to live outside Israel though claiming an exclusive right to it. Same as now.
The notion that the 'diaspora' arose from the Roman destruction of the Temple has been significantly called into doubt.
fun fact - the Irish, who have a lot of pre-Celtic, pre-indo european blood [like the welsh, scots and basques and Italians] get Tay Sachs and a couple of other 'Jewish' diseases at a rate second only to the Ashkenazi themselves.
People eager to discredit the Hebrew origins of "Zionists" aren't entitled to stick with the Khazar Hypothesis, for which there's really no strong evidence apart from the fact that, yes, their nobility converted 1200 or whatever years ago. There is, no doubt, *some* Khazarian contribution, but if it was significant you'd tend to expect linguistic evidence in Yiddish. Probably most of the Eastern European Jewish population actually had migrated from western and southern europe as well as some, apparently, from the area around modern day Georgia and Armenia.
Over half the Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi, Plenty are from North Africa (Morocco to Ethiopia), the Arabian Peninsula (Yemeni Jews) and Iraq, Kazakhistan, Iran etc.
Lots are also Palestinian Jews. Hebron for example had a Jewish population until the pogrom of 1936, many of the so called settlers are the desendants of those natives returning to the old Jewish neighbourhood.
All Jews are not zionists. Many Semetic Jews are not. They do not support the state. They do not serve in the army. They resent the zionist destruction of their former good relations with their fellow Christian and Muslim Semites.
Big Jim Ashkanaz did not leave Palestine.
They are converts from the Caspian Sea region.
Search for Prof. Shlomo Sand author of The Invention of The Jewish People.
They are not Semites. No ancestral claim to the land. The Romans did not exile anybody. They needed their subject populations in place to generate tax revenue.
Where are the descendants of the biblical Jews??
They are the Palestinians.
lol, guess I can go back to Ireland and claim the whole place for myself, then.
What sort of jews? The Jews or the "jews". I bet you are from the second category so I'll just say something to you, from the person you and your kind hates most:
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Yes, He was talking about YOU and YOUR KIND. Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock
hey dipshit, pay attention... Palestinians are being murdered, not the Israelis, who are doing the murdering.
He and his people will try to lie and cheat and spin reality whether its on a 50 inch screen or you're standing in Gaza seeing kids losing limbs
Didn't three Israeli boys get murdered to start this thing?
Where were all the antiHamas comments when that happened?
What should the Israelis do when theirs gets killed? What the fuck would you do? You obviously think they should do nothing.
Next time 3 US tourists get kidnapped and murdered in Mexico should the US kill hundreds of Mexican civilians?
Do you think before you type?
Also, perhaps Israel should STOP STEALING LAND THAT IS NOT THEIRS and then Hamas won't have to fight back against theft?
Do YOU ever think?
We need the Mexicans. Do you have any idea what our unfunded and underfunded liabilities are?
We need the immigration from Mexico as we will need future debt slaves and tax payers to pay into the ponzi so that we may reap the benefit of the ponzi. Plus...no one landscapes like a Mexican NO ONE and my retired ass isn't cutting the lawn.
Killing any Mexicans is harmful to our welfare - state.
japs are good landscapers - they just charge more than Messykins
Who fired the first rocket?
If Mexico fired rockets into civilized areas of the US, an act of war, you can bet we would retaliate. Except for Obama. He would draw a horizontal red line from San Francisco to New York.
Why the fuck would Mexicans fire missiles into the US?... Maybe if the US stole their land... just maybe.
http://disciplesofmalcolm.tumblr.com/post/75459927819
USA took most of Mexico - it's just long time ago (1848).
Yeah and those mexican terghagrist probably fired back.
Bullshit. Three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and MURDERED a few weeks ago. Another Israeli was murdered in a rocket attack yesterday. The fact that hundreds of rockets are being fired at citizens in Israel.....restaurants, schools, neighborhoods.....means that Hamas is trying their damndest to kill as many Jews as possible. This is their stated goal.
Israel has a pretty good defense system. The Iron Dome works. That's the only reason hundreds of Jews aren't being killed every day. If Hamas wants to stop this, they can.
It was Hamas, NOT Israel, who refused the cease fire agreement the other day.
You sheep are unbelievable.
man, you Israelis sure have a speedy justice system... just a couple weeks go by, and you have already rounded up and murdered the 200 or so Palestinian men, women and children who were 'probably' responsible for that crime. just amazing.
Did you ever hold HAMAS responsible for rocket attacks and before the wall was put up, suicide bombers? Decades of attacks, thousands dead, and your answer is what? Blame Israel?
Yes, decades of attacks... but only since the zionists invaded and stole their land using terrorism and muder.
Oh please. Your claim is false.
come on... your claim is false? really, that is the come back... how about this:
http://www.palestineinformation.org/2a_4_maps
What about it? You're the guy who won't hold HAMAS responsible for attacks on civilians. Not worth responding to.
But they're failing to kill the civilians. This strikes me as a very important point. "The world is learning an important lesson about missile defense here." Your attempted murder is our real murder bitch!
So indeed.....your views have been duly noted, war gamed and now "counter attacked upon."
What was the question again?
Oh common, are you worriying about the deaths of people in prison, or about criminals being killed?
Guess what: NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE DEATH OF A BUNCH OF ZIO-CRIMINALS.
Everybody is just waiting for Hamas to get their hands on a couple of non-radioactive high-power bombs and wipe them out from this planet. Plus a couple of those banksters that started all of this in first place.
That's right, the Palestinians just upped and said to the Zionists - here, take our houses! Take our farms! Take the orchards that we have farmed for scores of generations! They belong to you, cuz, like, after all these centuries in Poland and Ukraine and germany and France, you're maybe 1/64th semitic... whereas we're 100% semitic, but the wrong kind.
What the fuck goes on in your head, racist?
After you yelling about Zionists and murder, now I'm a racist?
Hold on I have to stop laughing.
You're the one claiming (alleged) ethnicity trumps property rights, remember?
And Zionists are not a race. Fuck you are bad at this, even by Hasbara standards.
You're the one claiming (alleged) ethnicity trumps property rights, remember?
Not what I said at all. Nice try.
You are a good goy, JLee. We'll kill you last.
I up voted you tmosley, you are at least honest about your (Hamas) viewpoint to kill the non Jews after first exterminating the Jews.
You have no excuse, having an internet connection, to remain so ignorant.
Those kidnapped "jews" didnt die in Gaza or the bank. Matter of fact, the emergency call from the kids clearly has audio of the kidnappers speaking perfect Hebrew...so another false flag to justify ordering 100,000 Arab semites to abandon their homes, under creeping barrages, to be quickly "claimed" by the chief carpetbaggers of the past 2000 years. Watch a fuggin documentary for fucks sake, or would that cut too much into your Facefuck narcissism and the latest matchup in Goyball?
Yes, because Arabs, who live in Gaza and work in Israel, are incapable of speaking perfect Hebrew.
So it wasn't Arabs as those on audio spoke perfect Hebrew. Learn to read .
PhilofOz. I speak perfect English and am often mistaken for an Englishman. Never been there however. When people hear me speak Arabic they often assume I'm Lebanese (have never been there either). Might surprise you to know that I'm not Jewish either. I do have an Australian passport (and am multi-ethnic) so by now I hope you are confused by the possibilities of what I am and by the possibility that those who speak Hebrew don't have to be Jews.
Israel has a pretty good defense system courtesy of the US taxpayer.They also have nuclear weapons,thanks to Uncle fucking Sam.
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2012/07/03/netanyahu-worked-insi...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-prime-minister-netanyahu-linked-to-...
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-...
He's lied about Iran being "months away" from a nuclear weapon while building dozens more of his own. So controlled is US media that most Americans likely think Iran has a nuclear weapon.
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/netanyahu-in-1992-iran-close-to-having-n...
I don't see there ever being peace and stability in the Middle East while Zionists have such control of the US government and media.
So this justifies killing dozens of children, and bombing hospitals. What's sickening is claiming that Hamas' charter, unquestionably extremist, is equivalent to having anything like the capacity to destroy Israel or kill 'every Jew'. But even this assessment of Hamas' goals is mere caricature.
I mean, these are people forcibly expelled by European Jews who freely used terrorism, false flags, and the targeting of civilians to create their state. If they are not favorably disposed to Israeli Jews, and you reduce it to "anti-Semtism" -what clever jargon do you employ to describe the kind of hate that forced them from their own land in accordance with the stated goals of numerous Zionist leaders? Please spare me the absurd claim the Zionists fought a defensive war - their stated intent was to establish an ethnarchy, and most of the fighting, done with the goal of seizing every hilltop possible, was done outside what was legally the Jewish State.
Israel, by the way, has happily violated not only the Geneva Conventions and UN resolutions with impunity, it has violated the original terms set by the UN for statehood and admission to the GA. But I suppose that doesn't matter at all to someone who feels that in every conflict with the indigenous people and its neighbors, Israel was in the right.
Israelis (and Jews around the world) contribute much to civilization, and with very few exceptions honor and respect human life. Those exceptions tend to involve the belief that someone or some group threatens the lives of Israelis/State of Israel. Hamas has stated its desire to wipe Israel off the map. Hamas puts their words into action via suicide bombs and rocket attacks that kill Israelis. They fall into Israel's crosshairs for their violent efforts to murder Israelis and destroy the state of Israel. Yes, Israelis have sharp elbows in business and readily use 'intelligence gathering techniques' to their benefit, and they do help other Israelis first, and frequently to the exclusion of non-Jews. From my perspective, these are negative behaviors. So too is the bullying that Isreal perpetrates on its neighbors that goes past self-defense and into the realm of punitive. I acknowledge that Israeli forces fired on and sank the USS Liberty in 1967, allegedly in error. However, when I look at the world of Islam, I see murder and mayhem in every century from the 6th to the 21st, including the Armenian genocide of the early 20th century. I see people with an exceptional bloodlust, and a far smaller appetite for peace, commerce, and exceptional achievement. To conclude, I would feel far more comfortable in Israel surrounded by Israelis than I would ANYWHERE in the Arab world. If I had to fight alongside one of these 2 groups, it would be Israel, and it's not even close.
"If Scotland votes for independence then starts lobbing shells across the border at London, how would you expect the U.K. Government to respond, with daisies and kind words? We regret the loss of these children, we regret the loss of all children. Just as soon as Hamas stops lobbing shells across the border this will end."
UKIP will decide Scotland future. Get the fuck out of EU!
http://www.realitista.org/files/tag-palestein.php
fuckk israhell, the spawn of satan
You need to pan out to get a better view...
http://www.opinionbug.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/mideast-map-occupation.jpg
I see. So, presumably, if you have a large family, you wouldn't mind an orphan taking over your house (at gunpoint) because the rest of your family can just let you have a bedroom at one of their houses, right?
If london was built on recently illegally occupied land, it should expect the former inhabitants to fight for their land back. and not pretend to be victims.
gaza children shields.
Wash, rinse, and repeat.
On the beach?
The UK still has real news reporters on TV, I had forgotten what that was like. Very refreshing...
Yes, that's why they attack Israel and not HAMAS and skip over answering questions about who owns the Bank of England's gold.
Real journalists (wink, wink)
IMO the same family that owns the Bank of England gold also pretty much owns Israel.
True. This was amazing to watch - surreal. We could have real journalists... we could have some people not slavishly adhering to the Zionarrative.
You have to worry for the man's well-being however. He's inviting a Hastingsing.
Prior to the beginning of this operation in Gaza, Israel had been killing Palestinian children at a rate of 1 every 3 days for 14 years.
I guess they weren't satisfied with that average.
Genocide is OK in Israel/Gaza. Anyone else is considered a terrorist.
See how you look Zionist fuck sticks?
Hitler was a piker. Israel is showing the world how genocide is really done.
The opening question is vile slander, why listen to another second?
The manual says to hijack the question and give your prepared answer, whatever it is, but hey. This guy was far more polite to the interviewer than the interviewer was to him.
The facts are Hamas started it, Hamas continues to keep it going, because Hamas likes to see their own kids killed so they can make propaganda out of it. Hamas hides missiles in civilian homes and hospitals and Israel would be much better advised to take them out with large enough bombs to clear the entire neighborhood.
Actually, the interview is not very stunning at all except in interviewer stupidity and rudeness, the net interview is very nearly fair.
How much is Nutandayahoo paying you Hasbara trolls these days?
Start an article about Israel and the anti semites scurry out like roaches. Down arrow from anti semites in 3...2...1..
Ahh the ol' anti-Israel (a pariah violent sociopath nation) must = anti-semite. REAL Jews can do what they want. Israel needs to only exist in the history books.
BTW That ratty tactic of yours is getting old and people are aware of it. Humourous tho
semites?
No the paid Hasbara trolls are the ones that come out of the shadows these days. I have lots of semite friends, my best two mates being Maltese. You can call me anti-Zionist all day long if you like, an ideology no better than others like Communism and feminism. It's all about fanaticism isn't it?
And the kids were actually digging a vast rocket complex under the beach, lol...
That kills the actual Israeli interviewee manual.
By the way that was the logic given for the firebombing raids on Tokyo. The factories had moved manufacturing machines into residences in Tokyo. So the city had to be firebombed.
The facts are Hamas started it, Hamas continues to keep it going...
Oh, Hamas stole the European zionists' land, did they? How'd they manage that?
http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~hireview/content.php?type=article&issue=spring01/&name=myth
http://www.opinionbug.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/mideast-map-occupation.jpg
Presumably, if you have a large family, you wouldn't mind an orphan taking over your house (at gunpoint) because the rest of your family can just let you have a bedroom at one of their houses, right?
stick to finance comments. this tripe is straight out of the Hasbara manual and no one is buying it anymore.
Hamas didn't start it.
The rest of your racist, pro-genocide, ahistorical rant doesn't merit a response.
Land grabs by tyrants can get messy just ask BLM
The Israelis are satanic, and 3:30 am is a time of day when the astral plane is the thinest. Many report being awakened at that time. The entire Kabbalah is based in black magic. They chose the blood moons to launch the attacks because they have won territory in such blood moons that land on Jewish Holidays.
its sorcery.
4 blood moons on jewish holidays
1948
1967
2014
The Kabbalah, like fortune cookies, astrology, and Daily Kos - has absolutely no basis in reality, and 'the Israelis' are no more 'satanic' than the Americans, or Brits, or Druze.
Magick, however, is real.
Belief is a tool.
Wow. That was quite the interview. A journalist who doesn't kowtow to talking points is something we'll never see on US television. The Israeli spokesman was woefully unprepared to do anything but recite his pathetic sound bites. No doubt the journalist will be reviled as an anti-Semite, but that spokesman was pathetic. Of course, it helps to have an actual story to promote, I suppose.
Israel is the only country on earth that has to put up with thousands of rockets being shot at them FOR YEARS, and then put up with the leftist propganda that it's all their fault. WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU IDIOTS WANT THEM TO DO? What would you want the United States government to do if rockets were raining down in your city from Mexico or Canada? Answer the question.
Hamas is 100% responsible for the deaths of those civilians. They purposely hide their targets in schools and homes. Israel will CALL THEM ON THE PHONE and tell them they have ten minutes to get their families out. When they don't, Israel fires a warning firecracker type thing on the roof. Most get out at that point. Some don't. Blame Hamas. Israel has very few options on the table when it comes to retaliation due to the innocent civilians being used as human shields. They are exercising enormous restraint. But to do nothing is idiotic.
The world needs to condemn loudly Hamas' actions of using civilians as human shields. It was Hamas, NOT Israel, who refused the cease fire agreement the other day.
JFC, you people are stupid. Spend a MINUTE of your day getting news from a reliable source, an expert, a book, anything credible. This is a dangerous GD world, and you idiots are going to get us all killed believing this kind of propaganda.
Hamas doesn't give a shit who gets killed on either side. They win either way.
Same old tired slogans.
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Why are new ones necessary?
Coz the old ones don't work. Can't you read or did he needs to write it right to left for you to understand?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-514681/Code-Red-Sderot-Living-heavily-bombed-place-world.html
http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/07/american-muslims-chant-jews-back-ovens...
you obviously don't know the dichotomy of living standards between the two areas. Think David and Goliath for starters.
So? This justifies rocket attacks and suicide bombings?
You are stupid beyond belief. Stop stealing their land. Make them equal partners in a true democracy. Stop trying to create a country for Jews only, to the exclusion of all others. By doing so you make everyone else the outsider, the unwanted, the enemy. Imagine if the United States was for Christians only. And then try real hard not to be so fucking paranoid. That would be a good start.
You're the one who is stupid beyond belief. Many Arabs live in Israel. They vote, and they are even in the government.
It is fun to hear the hyprocracy of the "occupied land" zealots, and hear them say nothing about lands they are probably occupying themselves. You know the tribes -apache, potomac, cherokee, iroqouis, list goes on. Only hate filled fecal vomit will proceed from their mouths, or down arrows from the intellectually challenged among them.
Hate filled fecal matter shapeshifted into human form is currently occupying Palestine and bombing kids playing on beaches.
guess what, asshole? all those nations are making a comeback.
If one of those boys playing soccer on a beach were my child, I would become a lone wolf and the world would remember my name.
Hell yeah, me too!!
Is that you Liam Neeson?
Yeah, the world would remember you as that loudmouthed Arab dumbass who was gunned down on his front doorstep by an IDF sniper.
Your move, tough guy.
IDF snipers have a history of not shooting anyone who can shoot back.
Their preferred targets are Palestinian women, children and US soldiers in Iraq.
Aren't you the proud supremacist?
They were killing eachother before I was born and will be doing so after I die.
Fuck em.
dis johan snow english antisemenite is a muscle lim and a terrosit ist fourth collumer and hater of rabbis and inosense jewish babies.
he is not der new hilter but yoseph gorbels the propagation nazi ministers.
we kill der arabkids so we can be free behinds are new goy funded wall.
we been killin 3 a week normacy for rituals for saturn and are boss satan he cool like singers bono and gay acter gorge clone e
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/israelis-and-jews-satanic-ritual-...
It is satanic ritual murder. Most people are so blinded they can't see this for what it actually is.
They want to kill them all, why the water in Gaza is 90% undrinkable, they are going for total kill
for the greater israel.
which is all of Palestine, half of Egypt, most of Iraq, Jordan, Syria, half of Saudi Arabia.
It is their religion to do so.
All the Jew haters here either just want to hate, and/or don't understand that you cannot talk to HAMAS and solve this.
You're confusing who the irrational player is.
Guess you'll be trusting Fox News till the day youwake up to find US to be the new Palestine.
I haven't watched Fox News in at least 5 years. I suggest you look in a mirror to find the source of confusion.
People like you are the source of the confusion.
Not really. I have no skin the game, so I'm able to step back look at history and make a judgement. A lot of people here can't seem to do that, once the word "jew" or "Israel" appears, they go bat shit crazy into hatred.
JLee, I accept you assertion that you have no skin on this game, so I will try and engage you into an actual discussion.
Given your previous posts on ZH, and knowledge of the Bibble, would I be correct to assume you are a Christian of Protestant persuation?
I am trying to understand where does your support form Israel emmanate from? It seems, protestant Christianity obsession with Israel is a worldwide phenomenon. A Brazilian sect of Christian church just named their main church Solomon's Temple. Google it, it's a replica of what the real think 'supposedly' looked like.
To my actual question: Assuming, for argument's sake, that Israel's jews are the Bibble jews (they aren't), is there anywhere in your Christian faith which tells you that the jews are your sovereign, or owed your allegiance? This is a genuine question.
You seem to be for gold as honest money (where I totally agree with you, BTW) Perhaps you want to start there and see who is behind the perversion of real money as a means to hegemonic power.
Or does your support for Israel comes from your hatred of Arabs? In which case we can go on an discussing how the Arab "terrorist" is another invention of Israel.
I'll answer you as a Christian, even though you didn't pose the question to me. Obviously you don't have to read or respond.
My support for Israel has NOTHING to do with the Bible or my Christianity per se. I support Israel's right to defend itself, its people, and its borders. I support a nation that shares my Christian-Judeo VALUES. I don't hate Arabs on principle, but as a whole we don't share many values, so I don't typically support Arabs.
I believe in supporting any nation that is being attacked and demonized by the Left. And by the way, it's not Christians that are obsessed with Israel worldwide. That is ludicrous. Leftists and anti-Christians and anti-Jews are obsessed with Israel. The vast majority of American Christians wouldn't think twice about Israel if they weren't constantly being attacked and demonized.
Look at the vile, rabid responses on this thread and tell me who's obsessed.
Thanks for your reply. (I didn't downvote you)
I would call the targeted murder of unarmed children pretty vile and rabid, wouldn't you?
Have you considered that the whole Judeo-Christian Values thing is a canard? As you did not see reference to the term before the jews started their 20th century power-grab, which is just the latest in seemingly never-ending spiral.
Look at those values you hold dear one by one and you will see you might have a few in common with the Arabs. Honest money and honour for the family unit seems to spring to mind. Whereas the Judeo-part of that value equation seems skewed towards the Disonest-money, race-supremacist and Always-take. Which from my meagre understanding of Christianity and Islam, does not compute.
I believe your perception of a leftist obsession with Israel comes from the fact that in the US, and most of the five-eyes, the right are neocons, which are aligned to Israel. I do believ libertarians, of which there are quite a few on ZH, see the charade for what it is.
Yes, I would call the targeted murder of unarmed children vile and rabid. Hamas is engaged in the attempt to do this every single day.
I didn't down vote you either, but you are attempting to twist words, which I will not engage in.
I don't need to examine my values, thank you very much. I'm quite sure that my perception of honoring the family unit is NOTHING like the Arab world's perception of honoring the family unit (ie, how they treat women). It's not even up for debate.
My Judeo-Christian values do not include anything along the lines of dishonest money (or dishonesty in any form), race supremacy, or taking more than giving. But they sure as hell also do not include giving into a bully, supporting terrorism, or statist ideas that if you don't do what the Left wants, you have to die.
And just so you know, most of the libertarians on ZH mean well (I really believe that), but they don't know shit from shinola. That matters in the real world. Where I live. :)
Serenity Now
Please don't make the common mistake of mixing the term Arabs with Muslims. Plenty of Arab Christians around who support Christian-Judeo values.
Even most muslims are OK, until their ideology (islam is as much an ideology as a religion) makes them do stupid things.
Given your previous posts on ZH, and knowledge of the Bibble, would I be correct to assume you are a Christian of Protestant persuation?
No, you would not be correct.
Not really. I have no skin the game, so I'm able to step back look at history and make a judgement. A lot of people here can't seem to do that, once the word "jew" or "Israel" appears, they go bat shit crazy into hatred.
Your regular & reflexive 'anti-Zionist == anti-Jew' conflations show your claim to have 'no skin in the game' to be profoundly unlikely.
You've elsewhere argued that GOD gave the zionists the land, which means you are either a Judaist or Christian of some sort.
If your belief in zionist rights to a land they left 1400 years ago stems from your religious beliefs, then you do indeed have 'skin in the game'.
Solve? Which parties want to solve anything?
Well I suppose it depends on what you mean by solve.
Clearly Islam needs a stronger voting bloc in America. I think we can all
agree with that.
Just what we need. Another group of bloodthirsty desperadoes going around hacking off the heads of any who wish to refrain from conversion to Islam. Can I get a side of stoning with that?
JLee2027 outed as another Hasbara sleeper with his anti-Zioinst = anti-Jew bullshit.
Fuck off, apologist for racist child killers.
You have deep anger issues, don't you?
If the killing of innocent children, warmongering, racism, fascism/Zionism etc. etc. doesn’t stir up some kind of anger then I would be concern about anger issues…
Anyone who knows what the zionists have done to the Palestinian indigenes, and isn't angry, is the one with the issues, chum.
JLee2027 -- and did you know about these here jew haters; http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
All the Jew supremacists here either just want to hate, and/or don't understand that you cannot talk to Bibi Likudites and solve this.
I’m sick and tired of funding Israel to keep up GDP under Genocide war games. Figure out who in DC and Israel are beneficiary to market gains. Put a contract out on their heads, watch the war end.
This is not a joke..
I like your idea. however your logic fails due to the fact that with their control of media and intelligence organisations around the world, they will know about it the moment it happens. And contracts are usually paid in money, and money is their game. They are not called the cheesepopes for nothing...
Damn, I miss Francis_Sawyer!
I thought he had returned, as Sir Francis Sawyer. Maybe wishful thinking!
Congratulations Amerika. Blood on your hands.
Well that's the way Europe sees it.
And thats the way it is. Jews have long sought to infiltrate the clergy, they have.
All these crazy Christian Zionists are brainwashed to put Israel first.
I saw it first hand in the 90s, lady neighbor asked me to attend her chruch, I did to be
friendly and the pastor was obviously jewish and ranting about arabs.
entire congregation seemed under some spell and half out of it.
I knew it then. I was right.
I don't know about Jews infiltrating the clergy, but there definitely is a sub-theology out there within Christianity which thinks the creation of the state of Isreal after WWII is some fulfillment of biblical prophecy instead of being part of a grand plan to control the middle east via destabilization, and they have bought in to the end times stuff where Israel returns to God via Christ. Biblical prophecy is pretty tricky though. There used to be a guy by the name of Van Impe or something similar that made a whole career out of interpreting everyday news events in the middle east as biblical prophecy. The end should have come a dozens times already according to that guy.
any idea how many popes came from Jewish families? its an interesting topic, but very hard to nail down. Based on the research I have read, many... especially during the times when the vatican was at is most egregiously amoral.
Well, if you consider Peter to be the first Pope, then I guess at least one was Jewish.
Correct!
Scoffield Bible was certainly an organized effort by Zionists.
Now, pretty much anyone talking about "Yeshua" is a Jew masquerading as a Christian - essentially the idea is to reinforce Jewish moral and ontological Supremacism. Religious Jews hate "Supercessionism" which is what, in essence, Catholics and many Protestants are [check out the wiki entry - and the curious selection of links below it] - salvation through Christ, regardless of ethnicity, new covenant supercedes the old. Zionists in general hate it - somehow it is "anti-Semitic" while the "chosen" doctrine isn't itself racist. Got me on that one, too. Anyway, the Southern Evangelicals sometimes use the Yeshua stuff, slavishly quote the OT, but they're the biggest, most legit anti-Semites of all, presuming those who don't ultimately accept Yeshua when he comes back will be cast in a lake of fire.
Catholic church deserves all the criticism it gets but the bizarre conspiracy theories about the Jesuits and Vatican often stem from Christian Zios and the Jews masquerading as Christians crowd - who still adhere to the chosen people mythos and jewish supremacism. Sid Roth... John Hagee might be the most vile.
I tend to think most intelligent people don't believe any of it. Unless they're psychotic - which many ultra-Orthodox Jews are... I eagerly await when they get their hands on Israel's hundreds of nukes and other nasty weapons.
-1 (in spirit) for your mis-characterization of the Jewish religion with Zionism, Daffy.
Here's some of your psychotic ultra-Orthodox jews:
Tens of Thousands of Orthodox Jews Protesting the Existence of the Zionist State of Israel in NYC !Thousands of haredim protest in Lower Manhattan
EMERGENCY PROTEST FOR PALESTINE IN NYCNeither Nettanyahu, the Likud party, Zionist extremists, nor the current genocidal policy of Israel represent Judaism or the view of most Jews, ultra-orthodox or otherwise. That's like using the ravings of Wahabi jihadists in ISIS as representative of the views of all orthodox muslims (whose scripture prohibits violence and forced conversions). I realize you qualified your comments above with 'some', but you must realize by now that there is a strong (but heavily-censored) global Jewish voice against the current idiocy in Israel.
I would also encourage anyone looking to enlighten themselves about "zionism" to investigate those Mormon Zionists
who make up a sizeable portion of the CIA, FBI, NSA, and many other alphabet "spy" agencies the US sends out into the word like a virus.
their "history" is quite rich. and parallels the "nationstate" creation story. . .
dig in with your research soon, stories disappearing from the 'net daily.
how's that "racial discrimination" policy working out for you Zero Hedge?
AS IF.
Who cares what a bunch of smug, above the fray, Socialist, narcisissists think about the United States?
Americans surely don't.
I want him to say "let's be clear" a few more times.
Hamas is a piece of raw, maggot filled, free market and democratic process hating shit. How could anyone who has even an ounce of sense listen to this pompous British accented asswipe in this interview? He has ZERO credibility, asks ridiculous, questions about 4 kids killed on a beach when Hamas would gladly slaughter thousands of Israeli kids if they had the chance. HAMAS IS THE ENEMY of freedom, peace, and any semblance of civilzation. I'm no Israelophile, but this interview is not heroic, is not an example of journalistic "boldness" that we wouldn't "ever see in the US". It is just simply soupy, rancid, create a super stink through false-premised-questions dog vomit. Here are the facts: 1. The Arab League and Egypt and that shit hole of an international circle jerk, the UN, all came together for a ceasefire. Israel said OK. Hamas said "Jihad, jihad" and kept firing missles. 2. Hamas has written in their founding charter that one of their primary objectives is the DESTRUCTiON of the nation state of Isreal. And this jackwipe of an interviewer is trying to "jab" the spokesman about 4 kids? Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map and would gladly exterminate hundreds of thousands of Israeli kids if it could. Thank God that these Islamist corn hole bangers (who are as insane and demon possessed as their founder Mohammad) are reduced to a tiny strip in the Middle East. If they had their way, after destroying Israel, they'd come after YOUR American kids as well, not just on beaches but in churches, school yards, park playgrounds and anywhere possible. Where's your "jab" to the kid killers who boast about slaughtering Israeli children, Mr. dipshit Snow??
I'm no Israelophile...
"I'm no Israelophile" followed by standard zionist Islamophobic bullshit. Hey Hasbara, give them their (stolen) land back and the problem will go away.
Guess what, I'm an American who thinks Israel is an illegal terrorist state.
I'm not buying your shit. Nor do I like being referred to as goyim. Nor do I appreciate being Isreal's fucking vassal.
underground post can you do anudder post wid less words it hard to reads cos day so close together.
Rabbi A. Romi Cohn has sucked 25,000 baby penises – “it’s a joyous occasion”http://www.destroyzionism.com/2013/07/25/rabbi-a-romi-cohn-has-sucked-25...
Come up for air, it’s the banker gambling fucknuts. They hate that red/blue is not divided. Hence, the WH Nigger Global Unity Statement.
Keep up with the cloward piven Obama lies.
"Hamas is a piece of raw, maggot filled, free market and democratic process hating shit."
And yet, they still look like the very picture of morality next to Israel.
Your hasbara is showing.
Zip it up, young man.
So, hows the brilliant idea of giving Jews land in the middle east after WWII working out? LETS BE CLEAR - Actually quite well depending on the point of view. They are a major destablizing force there, which is what the western oil guzzling nations need, and they got some Jews out of Europe to boot. What a tangled web we weave when we attempt to deceive.
I think Israel and Hamas are BOTH terrorist organizations and we should just stand back and let the shit fly over there.
You know nothing, John Snow.
Everybody knows that only jews know anything.
no comment....http://www.haaretz.com/news/remembrance-and-independence-2013/how-a-fake...
Good link. Lots of interesting things on that site. Seems to be a site about Jews, by Jews, but seems to be pretty fair-minded and thoughtful. Was an interesting article recently explaining why there have been so many Jewish Nobel Peace prize winners by comparison to all other groups. No, it wasn't that Jews are vastly superior intellects, even though as they said they wish that were the case.
Violence begets violence.
Jim in MN here. I just would like to make one more plea for a viable, properly frameworked middle class across the globe and particularly in the Middle East, the 'one most screwed area' in this entire God-forsaken (or is it merely tested by the Lord?) world.
Let us not forget what the revolutions were really about: not merely the notion of Freedom, but of some kind of sane social, political and economic framework within which to simply live.
I for one hope that Joe and Jane Hussain have the chance to be shopkeepers, or taxi drivers, or pool hall operators, and raise children that see how saving and investment lead to real prosperity.
Fuck all the imperialists, death merchants, and corporate media scum who continue to profit from the ultimately self (species) defeating betrayal of the ordinary Arab on the street. As well as the ordinary Chinese, Indonesian, Brazilian, Nigerian....and oh yeah AMERICAN on the street.
Peace and luck to all well meaning ZHers.
And....thanks Tyler(s). Still miss Marla. Could use some pirate tunes about now.
Bravo, Jim!
I still have your Fukushima analysis on my Kindle.
I've never seen so many hasbara trolls in a single ZH thread. Half the college-age population of Israel must be working the 'net spreading lies these days.
and failing miserably to convince anyone other than themselves.
It's like the the lord of the flies, they are swarming all over the internet.
and man it's ugly, its a mad frenzy of the cult of death.
You guys are the trolls. You have provided absolutely NOTHING to this conversation.
Truly. I've generally no problem with people coming from whatever fucked up, if genuinely believed perspective, but I am sick and tired of this coordinated flies to shit, hitler/nazis/antisemites! coordinated propaganda fest - particularly as more often than not they demonstrate a real anti-Arab racism throughout a screed in which they essentially claim criticism of Israeli war crimes is per se 'anti-Semitic.'
Presuming some of them honestly believe it, bolstered, of course, by not small amount of irrational, blanket anti-Jewish hate - is it any wonder that the pro-Israel crowd can never pause to ask whether Israel's behavior might supply cause enough to dislike it, or if the sundry quotes from "racist rabbis" who are, really, only adhering to Jewish religious belief, however unpleasant and generally hidden from the goyim, might make people think that Judaism, in no small part, is based on concepts of xenophobia, dual-track ethics, and supremacism?
Typical ZH article and comments.
There was no way ZH was having a Israel Gaza war article yesterday since Hamas turned down the ceasefire that Israel accepted so surprise surprise they waited for some civilian deaths. These kids would be alive today if Hamas accepted the ceasefire.
Usually ZH criticizes leadership which tries to gain power at the expense of civilians so why does Hamas get a pass? Is it because so long as the other side is Israel, Hamas is allowed to do anything? I mean, all I read comment after comment is Israel is psycho and dangerous and liars so when Israel agrees to a ceasefire, Hamas is still the hero for refusing the ceasefire and gets no blame for civilians dying here.