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US Intelligence Confirms Malaysian Jet Brought Down By Surface-To-Air Missile
Details are starting to come together. The WSJ reports that US Intelligence detected a surface missile launch and tracked the explosion of the plane.
- *U.S. INTELLIGENCE SAYS SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE FIRED PLANE: WSJ
However, Intelligence Community Divided Over Whether Missile From Russia or E. Ukraine.
As WSJ earlier noted,
If the Malaysia Airlines passenger jet that crashed in eastern Ukraine was shot down — as US Intelligence has now confirmed — attackers would have had to use a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system, not the shoulder-fired weapons that are more accessible and easier to use.
Those weapons, nicknamed manpads, have been used in attacks against commercial aircraft in the past. But their range is much lower than the approximately 30,000-feet cruising altitude at which the Ukrainian official said Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, a Boeing carrying 295 passengers and crew, was flying.
Manpads in use...
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CAN THE NSA STATE IT WAS A FALSE FLAG EVENT?
All this misinformation - I mean, I believe you could hit one with an AK47; Obviously modified.
http://s23.postimg.org/igoq69cjf/ak47.png
Truth, just follow the money...
CNBC is splashing a headline "Biden says the shootdown was no accident."
Same guy who told American women they should point their double-barrel shotguns into the air and fire two warning shots to scare off would-be attackers.
All this misinformation - I mean, I believe you could hit one with an AK47; Obviously modified.
http://s23.postimg.org/igoq69cjf/ak47.png
Truth, just follow the money...
double post removed due to strangely slow site access today - eh? what's going on??
On a side note, today's price action in the equity market shows to prove that stocks can (believe it or not) actually close lower even with the New York FED buying stocks and S&P futures hand over fist.
They tried to bang the boards more than once today and failed.
On a side note, today's price action in the equity market shows to prove that stocks can (believe it or not) actually close lower even with the New York FED buying stocks and S&P futures hand over fist.
They tried to bang the boards more than once today and failed.
CNBC is splashing a headline "Biden says the shootdown was no accident."
Our 1 billion dollar keyhole satelltes have an an optimal resolution of 6 inches, but we can figure out where the fuck this missle came from.
A memory refresher: this is not the first time when Ukrainian military forces shots down a civilian plane:
they successfully practised it already in 2001
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine...
Greate score folks! Ukrainian Air Defence: military planes downed - 0, civilian planes downed - 2.
CNBC is splashing a headline "Biden says the shootdown was no accident."
Our 1 billion dollar keyhole satellites have an an optimal resolution of 6 inches, but we can't figure out where the fuck that missile came from.
There should be a sensor-laden satellite parked over that area that could track the missile's heat signature from ground-launch until impact.
No doubt in my mind.
295 people = 2+9+5 = 16 = 1+6= magic number 7 as well
9+5-2=12 an even dozen. The same number of eggs I just bought minutes before the plane was shot down. Numerology can do anything, except find truth.
On a side note, today's price action in the equity market shows to prove that stocks can (believe it or not) actually close lower even with the New York FED buying stocks and S&P futures hand over fist.
They tried to bang the boards more than once today and failed.
Apparently it was in fact brought down by a blast of wind from howard stern's ass.
Captain Janks?
only 2 words - WMD IRAQ
We have been attacked by him!
Since ZH hasn't reported it I will:
From CNBC: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101845565
Have you ever heard of a Twitter account hack?
Have you ever heard of people actually fucking up? Like geewizz we got this neat new toy from our pals next door. Lets try it out. Oops wrong plane. My bad.
I don't have the intel to blame anyone side, but why is there such a strong urge to either root for one or the other side? Why even pick sides. There's never a good vs. bad scenario. Well maybe in Hollywood there is.
Russia does not benefit.
Ukraine could, but not really.
The rebels would not benefit, yet without command and control of a disciplined armed force (army) they probably thought it was a Ukrainian transport and fired with a twitchy finger.
Either flavor you choose, with many different nationals dead, both the UK and US have a cartridge to use in their guns for involvement militarily.
Russia may be forced to intervene.
Let's wait and see.
And Obama is off on more fundraisers. First things first,
Funny coincidences:
CNN does a TWA Flt 800 special this week.
Boeing plane gets blown out of the sky over Ukraine just at a time when the US is trying to pursuade Europe to take a harder stance against the Russians.
Israel launches its ground offensive on a busy news day.
US intel KNOWS it was a surface-to-air missile with no investigation.
Funny coincidences:
CNN does a TWA Flt 800 special this week.
Boeing plane gets blown out of the sky over Ukraine just at a time when the US is trying to pursuade Europe to take a harder stance against the Russians.
Israel launches its ground offensive on a busy news day.
US intel KNOWS it was a surface-to-air missile with no investigation.
From RT News:
Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.
“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.
"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
I blame a youtube video. What difference does it make?
From RT News:
Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.
“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.
"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
This guy seemed to know about what happened, until he changed his mind:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/17/malaysian-airlines-mh17-reported...
Has that guy made a similar tweet every time his forces shot down a plane or blew up a tank. He should be splooging tweets about how the Ukes are getting trashed in the Cauldron.
The Canadian MSM is pathetic
Malaysian Airlines flight 17 had it first flight 17 years ago on 17th July 1997 and brought down on the 17th July 2014
Rats. I had a logical explanation and you went all numerology on me.
Yet, certain people do believe in that...
Christine.....?
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Does Russia profit from intentionally shooting down an Air liner?
NO!!!
European air control continued approving flight routes over Ukraine despite adequate reason not to. Does that mean they would profit from it?
No! They look like buffoons.
What about West Ukraine? Does this serve their purposes? How many struggling West Ukraine enterprizes are going to have shipment difficulties as a result - right when West Ukraine needs to raise money for Gas to carry them through the winter. Do they profit?
Probably only in that Russia will not want to be seen on the wrong side of the issue.
What about Obama? Does he look good right now? Can he poke Putin in the Chest and say, "This is because of your interference!"? Not yet. Maybe never, despite Biden's assertions. Do you really think he wouldn't be ready to make political hay if it were a false flag by the West Ukrainians with US support???
What about East Ukraine? What does this do to their cause? They may want freedom. They may just want to be Putin's pawns in joining Russia. They've certainly gambled everything on getting Russia's support.
But does intentionally shooting and Air Liner do that for them?
No. I dont think it does, not directly at least. I think if Russia was helping them with Air Defenses, it probably won't continue to do so.
If not by intention, then this is a horrible, horrible mistake, no matter how unacceptable.
Now before I hear the outrage, let me tell you that this kind of thing happens in war time, and is totally, TOTALLY unavoidable. It is part and parcel of the process.
So before people slam me with comments about Putin's Chess game, or Russian Aggression, or the Nazi's of the West, or the New Cold War East, just let that sink in.
If we go down this path the BEST you can hope for is a lot of innocents killed by mistake. The WORST is that it won't be a mistake. And in this particular arena, there are no guarantees about where that ends.
I am going to go have a beer and hope my wife and children get home safely.
I hope everyone in National and Regional capitals around the world will stop and think about whether they can live without some of their desires in return for an end to the killing.
OK, Gen. Powell, we heard you the first time.
Guess 1 of the 6 Ukranians on the flight needed to be silenced...
Yet they CAN'T FIND Lois Lerner's emails!!
blackwater (good at makin' malaysian 777's disappear) fingerprints all over this.
Yup, the US confirms it was a SAM, probably the same Stinger they provided to their "contractors". Funny how they know so much about the details, even before an investigation has been launched!
But US "Intelligence" still can't- 13 years later - confirm what brought down the Twin Towers....
So release the location of the detected missile launch. You expect me to believe neither Russia nor the US can find every last Buk missile system in Ukraine, in a region of active war literally on Russia's border? You can detect the launch, you can figure out approximately where it happened (within a few dozen kilometers). Ukraine is not that big.
Here are some:
UKR Army with SAMs near Donetsk on July 5th (see 0:50)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be9_1405628738
American Intelligence has worked out that this plane was brought down by a SAM. I'm amazed. I didn't know Americans were so intelligent.
Obviously the Americans hired a bunch of Vodka addled fascists to shoot down Putin's plane, but they were 5 minutes late, last orders probably. The Americans don't want to get their hands dirty, so they end up walking in sewage.
It will take Putin a couple of days to amass his thoughts, the telemetry and radio backchat from the Black Box, which the Russians now have, to work out his next move.
Barry, like all bullies is now skulking, in fear of being caught; but forget him. Buy physical Gold, Silver and hunker down!
Best place to buy physical Gold and Silver is in a pawn shop. No Sales Tax, no receipts.
Ask yourself this question; if you met Yellen or Draghi at a Dinner Party, or in a Diner, and they expressed an opinion about the Onion Market, would you buy on their advise.
Isn't it incredible, Putin missed this shot by 5 minutes; when he talks about this in a couple of days, speaking as a former KGB Colonel, will people listen?
More importantly, does he care?
You do not need to borrow Putin's KGB history.
Look around in USSA.
You will find e.g. pres. 41 being not only any collonel, but the director.
It's Time to retrofit commercial airliners with flare cannisters and an ECM rack on the flight deck.
This sensible and now necessary!
BULLSHITE! This is so scripted it's ridiculous.
Malaysia won't give control of the most important shipping lane in the world (the Straits of Malacca) to the global goonsquad, so the goodsquad skyjacks a jumbo jet and when that isn't enough, they bomb another over Ukraine and delcare it "shot down" by other enemies of the global goonsquad.
What happened to the arms depot of lost Lybian surface t air missiles when Lybia fell? Could they reach 35k feet?
There is some seriously dirty shit going on in the Ukraine...Maiden Square snipers, now this...
TWA jet had nose sawed off by EXPANDING ROD WARHEAD.
Same sort of warhead took nose off f-16 Capt. O'Grady was flying in Bosnia.
Only the military use this sort of warhead.
I can't believe any airline would be stupid enough to route their aircraft thru a civil war zone where captured weaponry is going unaccounted for.
Anyhow,temporary break from all the bad press about the invasion of teenage undocumented immigrants.
I as well have been looking for links to this BRIC's central bank stuff. The lads at the FED have to shitting themselves.Next up someone starts to quietly sell off T-bills while they are still worth something.Don't look under the carpet!
Sooooo. Let me see if I understand this.
This aircraft was supposidly shot down from 33,000 feet and the bodies appear to be pretty much intact. Crash site is pretty much contained as well, like from a plane that went down from a couple hundred feet. Nice and tidy photogenic scene. Not scattered over 30 miles like Lockerbie.
Since when does the MSM ever show bodies from a plane crash? Answer: NEVER! Complete and utter bullshit!
I have been telling my Wife for months that the Malaysian airliner that went missing was going to pop up as a false flag.
Malaysian airlines are now officially "On the Radar". Please make a note of it.
I still prefer man tampons
To anyone who believes the two incidents involving Maslyasian Airlines occurred with seperate planes is as naive as an actual believer of Communism/Marxism being very helpful for people. This is the same plane from four months ago when the plane went "missing", there is a reason why CNN covered the story for a whole month afterwards...
If people buy the MSM bullshit we are fucked. This is so obvioulsly a false flag and I am willign to bet the CIA/NSA or whoever is in bed with Israel/mossad is involved. This shit is getting old. Let's get this goddamned show over with already. Bring on the fucking revolution!
Nightmarish World War II memories linger in Moscow, Ukrainian neo-fascists were among those who seized control in the new government in Kiev yet the U.S. rushed to give its blessing to what the Kremlin later described as a "coup d'etat". Sergei Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, reflected these worries when he voiced "most serious concern" over Ukraine in phone calls to the French, German and Polish foreign ministers. The EU, knowing this was what Washington wanted did nothing.
Little wonder the Russians are furious at what they see as a western double cross. Don't hold your breath for Putin to back-off or back-down, he has put down his marker and is now playing both Obama and Kerry for fools in a contest that cost Russia little. It is likely that if If Putin doesn't get Eastern Ukraine next week he will next month or next year at the latest. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/putin-holds-all-cards.html