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White House Statement Offers Condolences, Blames Russia, Demands "Full, Credible, Unimpeded" Investigation Into MH17 Crash
The White House issued a full statement at 2238ET with regard the Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 crash following President Obama's earlier brief comments: "The United States is shocked by the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, and we offer our deep condolences to all those who lost loved ones on board... It is critical that there be a full, credible, and unimpeded international investigation as quickly as possible... While we do not yet have all the facts, we do know that this incident
occurred in the context of a crisis in Ukraine that is fueled by Russian
support for the separatists, including through arms, materiel, and
training."
For Immediate Release July 17, 2014
Statement by the Press Secretary on Malaysian Airlines Flight 17
The United States is shocked by the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, and we offer our deep condolences to all those who lost loved ones on board. We continue to seek information to determine whether there were any American citizens on board.
It is critical that there be a full, credible, and unimpeded international investigation as quickly as possible.
We urge all concerned – Russia, the pro-Russian separatists, and Ukraine – to support an immediate cease-fire in order to ensure safe and unfettered access to the crash site for international investigators and in order to facilitate the recovery of remains. The role of international organizations – such as the United Nations and the OSCE in Ukraine – may be particularly relevant for this effort, and we will be in touch with affected nations and our partners in these organizations in the coming hours and days to determine the best path forward.
In the meantime, it is vital that no evidence be tampered with in any way and that all potential evidence and remains at the crash site are undisturbed. The United States remains prepared to contribute immediate assistance to any international investigation, including through resources provided by the NTSB and the FBI.
While we do not yet have all the facts, we do know that this incident occurred in the context of a crisis in Ukraine that is fueled by Russian support for the separatists, including through arms, materiel, and training. This incident only highlights the urgency with which we continue to urge Russia to immediately take concrete steps to de-escalate the situation in Ukraine and to support a sustainable cease-fire and path toward peace that the Ukrainian government has consistently put forward.
So here we are... Ukraine blames Russian separatists, Putin blames Ukraine, USA blames Russia... and has the tapes to "prove" it
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http://internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm
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They have awaken.
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Are YOU kidding ME?
Too much organic traffic? First, do some research. Zh attracts more monthly visitors than most established mainstream financial sites... And has been since it's non-blog debut in '09. Second, until more recently, traffic pattern has been down.
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"Small site" LOL.
Ranked #9 out of 25 top financial news sites by Time Magazine 2011.
Downhill since then IMO but the above is fact nevertheless.
GD rookies around here I swear talking shit out their ass.
They're called STATE DEPARTMENT FUCKING TROLLS
(9 weeks and change)
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http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/zerohedge.com
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Obama needs to IMMEDIATELY call stricter anti-aircraft missile laws, and for background checks on all militants registering ownership.
Now then, were any of these guys on antidepressants...
eye simples folks
my son in seal team 3 he hopes to upgrade soon to seal team 6 as day have better death insurance cover.
will he or his friends in blackwater or g4s need the corract paperwork for acting in der ukranian theatre
"We deeply regret the loss of American taxpayers; further we would like to offer assistance in any way, up to and including billions in newly printed debt. No, make that Federal Reserve Notes,(At a very low rate) and unlimited busloads of willing workers. Pardon the mites, scabies, and plague."
U.S. facist government calling the kettle black
As usual.
Should be a tense atmosphere when Holland rolls into Moscow during the 2018 World Cup.
Well done FIFA. Well done.
Im dying inside seeing my country ruled by a bunch of slimmy jeww bankers and there puppets. Im so ready to spill the blood of traitors and tyrants in our country i just need one last meaningless spark.
" NTSB and FBI full credible investigation?"
FLT 800, you lying sacks of shit muthafucking traitors.
Hope that comment wasn't too unkind.
What, nobody pointed a finger at Israel yet? They did go into Gaza just around the same time as MH17. Was it a convenient distraction or coincidental timing?
And because of MH17 Israel also did seem to escape the typical worldwide public condemnations of their atrocities that usually immediately accompany their war crimes.
Were they directly or indirectly responsible for MH17? Or were they just bottom feeding opportunists that saw a chance to do some ethnic cleansing under the cover of other innocent deaths from MH17? Or both? I smell a rat.
Good evening. WTF is going on in the world? And to top it off 68 degrees for a high in Oklahoma City in the middle of July? We are headed for some serious problems in the world WW3 on the horizon and our borders are open wide. The fundamental transformation has all but completed. Gold and silver just got smacked down guess all is ok now. Again I say WTF
It is critical that there be a full, credible, and unimpeded international investigation as quickly as possible.
Sorry bout ya you two faced bitch. Everyone's hard drive just crashed, they plead the fifth. Fuck your transparent admin. Putin claims executive privilege. He has golf games scheduled. He has a dinner party and will be up past midnight getting his drink on. No one outside your transparent head has even a smidgen of respect for you. All the critical information has been deemed classified. It's all been redacted with a Black magic marker (for national security). But then I guess you think black is the new transparent. Chill out dickhead, you can always catch up on CNN without which you wouldn't even know anything was up.
SEYMOUR HERSH EXPOSES US GOVERNMENT LIES ON SYRIAN SARIN ATTACK
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August. Hersh’s detailed account, based on information provided by current and former US intelligence and military officials, was published Sunday in the London Review of Books. The article, entitled “Whose sarin?,” exposes as a calculated fraud the propaganda churned out day after day by the administration and uncritically repeated by the media for a period of several weeks to provide a pretext for a military attack on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
SURELY THIS IS A LIE http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1-Britam-Leaks-Daily-Mail.jpg
AND THIS TOO http://joequinn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Britam-email-Doughty.jpg
But they had youtube proof.
Doncha no?
SEYMOUR HERSH EXPOSES US GOVERNMENT LIES ON SYRIAN SARIN ATTACK
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August. Hersh’s detailed account, based on information provided by current and former US intelligence and military officials, was published Sunday in the London Review of Books. The article, entitled “Whose sarin?,” exposes as a calculated fraud the propaganda churned out day after day by the administration and uncritically repeated by the media for a period of several weeks to provide a pretext for a military attack on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
SURELY THIS IS A LIE http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1-Britam-Leaks-Daily-Mail.jpg
AND THIS TOO http://joequinn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Britam-email-Doughty.jpg
Thanks for posting Mr Magooo.
Do the letters "F O" mean anything to you, White House?
I want to keep an open mind for now, so I would tend to agree with demanding an investigation.
This means people should NOT walk around there, take stuff, stand on evidence, collect passports or collect a found black box!!!
And a "Full, Credible, Unimpeded" Investigation should also include an analysis of the "coincidence" of MH 370 and MH 17. Please make sure the black box found in Ukraine is not by any chance the black box of the MH 370...
So why did feel the need to say "Full, Credible, Unimpeded" Investigation, are Investigations usually Half, Not Credible, Impeded. Is he trying to say he doesn't want another 911 commission report.
Credible like the sham investigations of TWA800 and JFK Jr.'s plane?
If you haven't watched the Netflix documentaries on both, I suggest you do.
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70279444
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70297310
It's a pity they didn't demand a full investigation of MH370.
Has any Credible Investigation taken place into the airliner that landed in The Pentagon in 2001 ? Was any of that comptible with air defence batteries around DC (I mean the DC that is part of the USA not the TSA version) ?
Obama knows exactly where that missile came from and those Aegis ships in the Black Sea know exactly who fired it........and the Russian air defence system and AWACS systems know too.
Why so coy about the FACTS just as with MH370 ?
The jet was downed by people angry about an anti-muslim video. No investigation needed and at this point what difference would it make?
The uke rebels might have fucked this one up. But to hear the White House chastise them is pretty fucking hypocritical.
This coming from the administration that:
-has ARMED and TRAINED Al Queda and ISIS terrorists in Syria and allowed them to rampage across Iraq on a brutal death march across the middle east.
-Was involved in the gassing and attempted false flag of Syrian populace
-The military that bombs wedding parties
-that funds Nazi's who shell their populace and burns them alive in buildings.
Now they strut out with sanctimonious noses in the air chastising the rest of the world.
Least we not forget their own "Full, Credible, Unimpeded Investigation" into 9/11.
Bath House, Sir, we have seized control of the BUK missile launcher!
What do I have to do?
Press the red button in 3, 2, 1...NOW!
Damn! This is better than Droning! Look at that missile! Fuck! I like this! It beats those wedding parties, those were getting stale.
TPTB thought you would like it, sir.
When can I do another one?
We have another Malaysian plane being readied. Maybe next month. Too bad all those people are dead.
well, it's Putin's Fault.
"While we do not yet have all the facts, we do know that this incident
(the invasion of Iraq by ISIS) occurred in the context of a crisis in Iraq that is fueled by US/CIA support for the separatists, including through arms, materiel, and training."
An investigation needs to focus, not so much on what brought the plane down but on what a commercial flight loaded with civilian passengers was doing over a war zone where it was a sitting duck with a good chance of being shot down. I would say the "rebels" were being set-up to take the blame for the hit. Let's find out where the pilot's orders came from to take that unusual flightpath. My guess is they came from Ukraine air traffic control via the CIA.
Who are the war profiteers? Who benefits from death of the masses?
Does anyone trust any media to report any truth? No, thanks to the constant stream of ongoing lies. Building seven is the WORLD.
Where was Cheney and his cabal? Bush was in the tub.
why would they need that info, they already have it on file from when they hired the rebels to do it?
reading these boards gives me hope and i think it's actually trickling down to the populace as well.
action-reaction-solution isn't working any longer.
false flag -action, yeah we know the (3 letter agency) did it-reaction, get these fuckers out of control-solution.
interesting link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM#t=214
"Great Black Father talk with forked tongue." "Have head up ass, blames Indians without having any evidence." Ugh!
If anone wanted to know what happened to that plane they only need 3 things.
A strong metal chair bolted to the floor
A 7 lb lump hammer.
A blowtorch
And a strong right arm.
Oh and Hilarious Clit
I believe used correctly a lump hammer can crush the bones in a Rhinoceros's toes, and a good blowtorch can roast a four pound foot in around 17 minutes.
Provide me with the above, or a Fuckwit obummer in place of a Hilarious Clit and I could let you know what happened in less than 34 minutes
Ambiguity often reflects certainty in political statements. Methinks the White House knows precisely from where the missile was launched, and dare not describe it.
Look for signs of bomb damage in the front wheel housing and analyses the residue.
Black ops teams have been working as ground crews at most major airports for the last 10 years.
Easiest thing in the world to plant a bomb there.
Especially if you are a CIA or NSA goon n a complicit corrupt govt in Brussels.
No rocket was fired from the ground.
The stacked odds of a Malaysian plane over Ukraine, right on the Russian border, coming down just as barry the cunt and his twin pricks Hilarious Clit and the Kurry Moron,fucked everything else they touched up, is so fantastical it in a once in universe lifetime event. It is bollox for the gullible retards to eat and this has their fingerprints all over it.
But what convinced me beyond any shadow of a doubt was watching said fucking Clit get interviewed on TV.
I watched it over and over again and every fucking nerve end and every sinew if my being was screaming at me that this fucking bitch is lying again.
Watch her, watch that fucking lying hag and then come on here and tell me you believe she was being honest and sincere.
"Damn, Reggie, what do I do if they suspect I had a part in this?
"Blame Vlad, munchkins- quick!"
"Warm up TOTUS fast, Redge!"
"Already booting, sweetie!"
What about credible investigation of 9/11?
What about credible investigation of the true reasons for the Iraq invasion?Remember the "credible evidence" consisting of some washing powder and toilet pipes presented to the un security council by Collin Powel?!... His message was "clear": Iraq possessed extremely dangerous weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein was systematically trying to deceive U.N. inspectors by hiding prohibited weapons. As it turned out -IT WAS ONE BIG LIE!
What about the other fake Youtube video last year depicting Syrian supposed WMD? As it turned out - IT WAS YET ANOTHER BIG LIE!\
Was there ever an American aggression that was not based on BIG LIES, SCHEAMING AND SCAMING?
This shit is yet another pathetic attempt by the CIA/MASSAD to frame Russia as an aggressor. Will they ever get tired of their own bullshit?
Unfortunate incident, but regardless of who is responsible a number of points stand out.
1) You get unforseen consequences when you plot to remove a countries elected Government.
2) You are retarded to fly over a war zone at any altitude in the hope that someone 30000 feet below you will be able to tell you are a passenger aircraft.
3) While the deaths are regrettable, in the context of deaths that have occured in countries that the US has invaded to 'save' the population from terrorism and repression it is a drop in the bucket, I believe currently accepted estimates of civilian casualties in Iraq since the US went in to rescue the population from WMD's is close to a million men,woman and children, a mistake with one missile by freedom fighters in the Ukraine, if proved, that kills 300 odd civilians is nothing.
Unfortunate incident, but regardless of who is responsible a number of points stand out.
1) You get unforseen consequences when you plot to remove a countries elected Government.
2) You are retarded to fly over a war zone at any altitude in the hope that someone 30000 feet below you will be able to tell you are a passenger aircraft.
3) While the deaths are regrettable, in the context of deaths that have occured in countries that the US has invaded to 'save' the population from terrorism and repression it is a drop in the bucket, I believe currently accepted estimates of civilian casualties in Iraq since the US went in to rescue the population from WMD's is close to a million men,woman and children, a mistake with one missile by freedom fighters in the Ukraine, if proved, that kills 300 odd civilians is nothing.