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As Israel Overruns Gaza, Tanks Ordered To "Open Fire At Anything That Moves"
Health officials in Gaza said 28 Palestinians were killed since the Israeli ground offensive began late Thursday, and as WaPo reports, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Friday that he has ordered Israel's military to prepare for "a significant expansion" of its ground offensive into the Gaza Strip, declaring that tunnels built by Hamas could not be destroyed solely through airstrikes. As The Guardian reports, according to military analyst Alex Fishman, writing in Yedioth Ahronoth: "The tanks, which serve as the heart of the assault force, received an order to open fire at anything that moved." Hamas warned Israel of the "dreadful consequences" of the conflict's escalation, while the US urged its close ally to restrict itself to a "precise" operation.
Israeli troops entered the Gaza Strip at 10.30pm local time on Thursday, under massive supporting fire from air, sea and land.
According to military analyst Alex Fishman, writing in Yedioth Ahronoth: "The tanks, which serve as the heart of the assault force, received an order to open fire at anything that moved. The area and the targets are due to be seized by the morning hours. From here on, [the army] will start to clear the ground, in what could last for several days, depending on political developments."
The initial aim is to destroy tunnels dug by Hamas from Gaza into Israel for the purpose of launching attacks, and to secure and expand the "buffer zone" inside Gaza's perimeter in order to prevent short-range rocket launches into Israel.
However, Hamas is likely to attempt to suck Israeli troops deeper into Gaza, increasing the risk of military casualties.
And the Ground Operation is expanding...
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Friday that he has ordered Israel's military to prepare for "a significant expansion" of its ground offensive into the Gaza Strip, declaring that tunnels built by Hamas could not be destroyed solely through airstrikes.
The mobilisation of a further 18,000 reservists was authorised overnight, bringing the total on standby to about 60,000 in addition to those in service.
"In light of Hamas's incessant criminal aggression and dangerous infiltration into Israeli territory, Israel must act to protect its citizens," a statement from the prime minister's office said.
As The Guardian reports, the US supports Israel (for now)...
The US called on Israel to restrict itself to a "precise operation" on the ground in Gaza while stressing its right to defend itself against rocket attacks.
In a statement late on Thursday, the state department said Netanyahu had telephoned the US secretary of state, John Kerry, to explain his decision "to launch an operation to target the threat of further terrorist infiltration through tunnels into Israel".
It continued: "The secretary reaffirmed our strong support for Israel's right to defend itself against terrorist threats emanating from tunnels into Israel and expressed our view that this should be a precise operation to target tunnels, as described in a statement from the Israel Defence Forces."
It said Kerry emphasised the need to "avoid further escalation and to restore the 2012 ceasefire as soon as possible".
Hamas responded to the invasion with characteristic rhetoric.
"We warn Netanyahu of the dreadful consequences of such a foolish act," Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters.
A statement issued by Hamas warned Israel: "We're with you in the field, and we aren't afraid of the ground assault."
A senior Israeli military source told Yedioth Ahronoth news website
"There were altercations overnight but we are progressing as planned. As of now, some 14 terrorists have been killed in targeted attacks on rocket launching cells."
Gaza claims 28 Deaths so far... (via WaPo)
Health officials in Gaza said 28 Palestinians were killed since the ground offensive began late Thursday, bringing the total Palestinian death toll to more than 260, with the injured topping 2,000, since the conflict erupted 11 days ago. The most recent fatalities included three children who perished in an airstrike on a residential tower in Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.
The Social Media blitz continues...as the operation is played on in real time:
"We have hit Hamas hard, and we will continue to hit Hamas hard," said Israel's military in a Twitter feed shortly after thousands of Israeli soldiers entered Gaza.
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This is how you win a war against terrorists.
Any minute now Hamass is going to make Israel pay... heh
those are some mighty fine tanks they have. I WONDER WHO GAVE THEM THOSE TANKS.
Feel free to look up Merkava tanks and who makes them or just say the US makes them since that's what you want to and read even though it's not true.
I have a feeling that tanks and APCs in Gaza will become pigs in a poke once the RPGs start flying in targeted kill zones - anyone for "roasted pork"? Just my observations from my forced [drafted] participation in the invasion of Cambodia in 1970. The daily casualty lists consisted of many entries tagged: "body burnt beyond recognition"...
Do the Palestinians have any arms at all?
How are they defending themselves?
They wouldn't be so stupid as to lob hundreds of rockets into Israel and not have weapons to defend themselves, would they? Hmm..
My question is in earnest. Do they have armaments? Like what?
They all have at two arms, except for that one dude who learned the hard way about trying to steal soda from a vending machine.
The sad thing is.....a generation from now the US will be (for whatever stupid reason) concerning itself with the eternal bulshit that is going down over there, while their own cities and states go Mad Max.
As if that shithole is more vallubale than what is happening down your own fucking street.
What a PR job.
Question for those that think we should be reading about Israel/Palestine daily: do people over there read about the troubles the US is having daily? About the 50-100 weekly shootings that happen in Chicago alone?
That's what I thought.....
Egypt's foreign minister openly blamed Hamas for the ongoing violence.
"Had Hamas accepted the Egyptian proposal, it could have saved the lives of at least 40 Palestinians," Sameh Shoukri said before Israeli troops entered Gaza."
Whoah....is THAT being broadcast on the mainstream joo hating media ?
Didn't think so. Egypt knows what's up. That's why they clamped down on the Muslim Brotherhood....whose offshoot is Hamas.
Thus proving my point. The Muzzie can only be controlled by the strong man. Or wiped off the face of the earth through war.
Now wasn't that how The Ghetto was cleared in Warsaw 1943 ? Will Samantha Power be wanting civilians protecting from military shelling ? What sanctions was John McCain calling for ?
Sort of. The Nazis had to divert significant artillery and airpower from the frontlines in order to level Warsaw and silence the resistance.
"tanks-ordered-open-fire-anything-moves"
Which specifically includes women and children, in "anything".
When you see that blast, remember, it was all for The Chosens, you second class Earthling.
Terminator 2 Nuke Blast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZNiSHBb_s
I know the Palistinians are saying this is a disproportionate response to their "little" missiles.
Bibi should inform them that they should get bigger missiles. The shitstorm coming onto them would not be different. Were the firecrackers worth it?
That's right. They should have bought bigger missiles from Iran. It's the Muzzies' fault for picking a fight on someone they know they can't defeat. It was just again for the Muzzies to get some good P.R. from the Western Press.....seeing as how the Arab Spring has gone SOOOOooooo well for the Muzzie. ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'd think that if Hamass has a bunch of drones it would be a great time to put them up with the sky full of Israeli drones. tick tock
Some American Patriots should go over there and learn counter-tank skills from the Mohammedans [assuming they actually have any]. We'll need them skills stateside before too long.
Kinda reminds me of this guy.
Ever read the Hamas charter?
http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html?chocaid=397
Here's tidbit what Israel is up against: "nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"
There's no chance for peace. Zero. Israel either fights for its existence, or is annihilated. What would you do? I'd fight.
That's EXACTLY correct. Time to drive the Muzzies COMPLETELY out of Israel. EVERY.....LAST.....ONE !!! Let their Muslim brothers and sisters show them some good 'ol Muzzie kindness and take them in. Like Jordan....or Syria.....or Lebanon....or Egypt....or Saudi Arabia......or Iran.
There will NEVER....NEVER....be peace in the Middle East as long as there are Muzzies. The Muzzie need a Reformation of their minds first and then Islam. Without that....there can never be peace with the crazy, blood-soaked Muzzie.
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http://eleconomista.com.mx/files/imagenes_galeria/16%20Diciembre,%202010...
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as good a job as Zerohedge usually does on reporting the truth of things, ya'll are a bit biased on this one.
#1: the current conflict was started by the Palestinians.
#2: among other measures Israel has taken to protect the innocent non-terrorist Palestinians, such as calling attack jets off of multiple known weapons cache targets because the terrorists were using innocents as human shields, BEFORE Israel made any such move on a ground offensive, many THOUSANDS of leaflets were dropped over the populace warning them to leave before the ground offensive started and giving them a whole DAMN DAY to do it.
Gee, you think Zerohedge is word playing out of context here a little? The orders were likely into the zone right next to the fence but ZH is busy today defending Putin and blaming Israel.
Frostfan: so right you are. Maybe ZH is just trying to please their ever-growing band of tinfoil hat wearing, anti-Jew, pro Russian oligarchy, Putin dick sucking idiots that have hijacked this site. Whatever it is ZH ain't what it used to be.
Fuck you, you mutt
Whorin' neocons in US defense industry boadrooms are licking their chops today, like the slobbering weasel on the old Bugs Bunny cartoons.
The Gaza Strip is a pit anyway. A slice of desert with nothing but a poor urbanized population. The Palestinians should overthrow the phony Hashemite "Kingdom" in Jordan and get themselves a real country with resources. Jordan already has a majority Palestinian population. Who the hell would want to live in that Strip hellhole? It's like a sophisticated and large refugee camp completely dependent upon Egypt and Israel for power, food, jobs, etc. Fuck the phony Jordan creation.
According to the map the zio's have their eye on Jordan too.
Wonder how Queen Noor will feel about that. Divided perhaps?
If the Palestinians tried to overthrow the King of Jordan and the Hashemite kingdom....they would be visited with FAR WORSE attrocities than what they are claiming the Jews are giving them.
But of course....the media would not report that. Neither would ZeroHedge.
Here are some genocide statistics for you:
Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in 2013: 38
Chicago homicides in 2013: 415
Detroit homicides in 2013: 333
Where's the genocide?
In Zerohedge message board AIDS (Anti Israel Derangement Syndrome) world, 38 dead is a genocide but 415 and 333 are not.
Homicide = Genocide?
Who knew?
What’s the take-away? Brown folks are bad.
The takeaway is all the people who come here screaming about genocide by Israel while the dead last year in Gaza and West bank were miniscule.
Most of those numbers are black on black murder. Please let me know when jew on jew murder begins, other than on Wall street.
If the Tyler's and ABC Media won't police this sick monster rally that this site has become, those who live to incite murder of Jews, then the time to pull the plug is approaching through outside action. It's not free speech to foment a death camp hatred of a People.
Fuck you and the Jew horse you rode in on.
If the Tyler's and ABC Media won't police this sick monster rally that this site has become, those who live to incite murder of Jews, then the time to pull the plug is approaching through outside action. It's not free speech to foment a death camp hatred of a People.
So with a threat like that, this whole DDos must be your doing?
Joos getting scared. Why baby? You should be cheering now as IDF is killing your enemies.
If the Tyler's and ABC Media won't police this sick monster rally that this site has become, those who live to incite murder of Jews, then the time to pull the plug is approaching through outside action. It's not free speech to foment a death camp hatred of a People.
Agreed, so stop supporting the death camp "Gaza" and the mass genocide of the Palestinian people.
Hey Sgt. Schultz, you wanna see genocide? Go anywhere outside Israel, Syria, Nigeria, Iraq, wait a minute those are Moslems killing Moslems, they don't count, do they. Only Jews who can defend themselves are war criminals, right? You can get a juicy assignment as a "news" reporter, stay in Tel Aviv, eat sushi, smoke hash from Lebanon and have 3 whores on you, shower and be in a "war zone" in 20 minutes by helicopter. Not bad for reporting on asymetrical warafre....my favorite is a Merkava IV rolling over a jihadi praying Allhu Akbar...why waste a perfectly good 105 mm shell or a .50 cal on just one?
Wrong rank and name there sport. Is hash from Lebanon legal there? I'm sure those hookers are sex slaves imported against their will or single mothers trying to make a subsistance living. The rest of your statement, just pretty much a jew who doesn't respect the life of someone other than their own kind.
If the Tyler's and ABC Media won't police this sick monster rally that this site has become, those who live to incite murder of Jews, then the time to pull the plug is approaching through outside action. It's not free speech to foment a death camp hatred of a People.
^^^Hahaha 4x fail. They're already trying with a massive DDOS attack after all the Israhellhole articles have been posted.
Don't count on it. ZH has bills to pay too, you know.
About time to merge ZeroHedge with Stormfront.org
HamasHedge anyone ?
And we may as well call the TV mainstream media and entertainment what it is, the electric jew. Oh wait, I believe people already do.
Phony statistics from a fool
CHAOS
TPTB are nervous; they are rolling the Dice: US invasion, Ukraine War, Israeli-Palestinian War.
Bizarre speech form the Christine.
I don't buy this Israeli concern about tunnels.
Let's see what actually happens over the next 48 hours.
I hope I don't understand what the Israeli strategies are in Gaza, but I find them totally ineffective. Not unjustified, just ineffective. They take far, far too much care not to hurt innocent civilians. If you don't want to hurt innocent civilians, don't use military weapons. Not to mention some long and complicated debates about "innocent" much less "civilian".
If you are a civilian in Gaza, you obviously know that your guys are tossing rockets at Israel. How do you think that would turn out - especially given the history between Israel and Gaza?
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To understand the control that Israel has over America you have to know and understand about the USS LIBERTY.
http://www.ussliberty.org/index2.html
Also vital is reading James Ennes' book "Assault on the Liberty"
He was officer on the bridge when the attack started.
And as our people suffer and struggle in this economy:
http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/251-washington-report-archives-2000-...
From the mouth of the beast himself:
http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/sharon1-1.jpg
Satan worshiping jews show true colors.
Satan worshiping jews show true colors.
Oh....you mean the Muzzie
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No he was pretty clear in his statement. You're just trying to turn it around, poorly I might add.
Obviously you didn't look at the evidence. Or you did but your too stupid and dickless to admit the truth. The Muzzie is a satanic blood cultist.
Go ahead....look at the ones where they are cutting their own children.
Ball-less wonder.
I'm neither stupid, nor dickless as all my ex-girlfriends will atest. I didn't look at every link. Frankly I couldn't care less what they're doing in their own country. It's not for me to stop. Same goes for Israel. They're well known for slaughtering others, importing sex slaves, and raping the world financially.
I'm fully intact and have both my testicles. However you can't suck on my cut pee pee, it's not bleeding. May want to find an infant for that. Zionists seem to worship the same blood cult.
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The single largest lobbying group in Wasington is the Israeli one. As they say, follow the money.
Ding, ding, ding!
Yawn. Another lie by the typical lying anti-semites.......
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/the-6-top-lobbying-organizations-in-2013.html/?a=viewall
liars liars pants on fire!!!!! Nothing like making shit up to blame jews LOL!!!!!!
AIPAC is a mass-membership, American organization whose members include Democrats, Republicans, and independents. The New York Times has called it "the most important organization affecting America's relationship with Israel."[4] It has been described as one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, DC. Its critics have stated it acts as an agent of the Israeli government with a "stranglehold" on the United States Congress with its power and influence.[5]
Read more about this "benevolent" organization here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee
Well duh, anti-semites of course are going to say it has a stranglehold on politicians. But hey, this is Zerohedge where anti-semites don't need facts or numbers to back up their comments.
I bring numbers, you bring a critic comment. And your link doesn't mention how much they contributed. Mine did.
Depends on what measure you use to compare. Money, size, or INFLUENCE! I'd say that 2% of the population has a far disproportionate influence (and greatest amount) by those terms.
Nice try Felchfan1
One day the kill box becomes the kill box.
One mechanized step for mankind in Gaza to prevent terror; one barrel-bomb in Syria or explosive laden civilian vehicle in Baghdad. One carefully kills in retaliation, one kills thousands out of spite. Which one commits genocide?
There were only several hundred thousand Arabs living in Palestine in 1940s. Now there are millions, not including the couple million Arabs living in Israel alone.
Meanwhile the Arabs and non-Arab Muslims 'genocided' several million of their own without a peep nor a concern from anyone. Yet when a Jew kills an Arab, that's genocide.
Par for course ZH, most comments are posted by mentally sick, pathological cretins, which belong in mental institutions with minds so twisted and perverted one only hopes they get help before they end up on front page news.
I used to have resprect for ZH and most of its stories.
However over the past year I have seen a monumental shift in both headlines AND contents of over HALF the posts on this site - Anti-American, Pro-Russian, Pro-Poor-Little-Terrorists, et al.
If many of you FUCKS postiong articles on ZH really think Russian and Iran and all these other places are so GODDAMNED better than the US, then GO OPEN A SITE LIKE ZH IN ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES AND SEE HOW FAR YOU GET
AmeriKa isnt perfect, but its Still the BEST friggin Option going. And as for Isreal and the situation.. Fucking get off your Lazy ass, and go live in a place where 15-yr old accross a fence fire rockets AT YOUR KIDS and have no remorse.
Or if you cant stomach that, just Go live in Mexico for a while and then wonder why it is that some CULTURES are doomed by their own customs and culture. Palastinians ARENT EVEN LIKED BY OTHER MUSILM COUNTRIES - They are Doomed by their own culture.
Isreal like it or not...the Jews FAR outdate ANY Muslim culture by THOUSDANDS of years (islam started in 650ad dipshits!) - THEY were given back their Land, NOT taken from the Palastinians who were nomads and didnt do SHIT with the land.
Fuck im tired of these and similar stupid assed Anti-American stories on ZH.
Go fuck your mother, incest boy
So...your father was your brother ? I see how that might upset you.....muzzie lover
And I can see how sucking the blood off a little boy's pee pee may be seen as religious wackjobs. You've got something in the corner of your mouth.
gearbaby: The Example of Stupidity in modern day medicine - dont worry...Darwins law will visit you soon enough.
Absolutely correct Obaminator. The original Tyler is gone. Now...in his and Marla's place are a bunch of stooges from RT and Iranian State TV.
Whatever has happened is pretty bad. 50% of the stories are completely skewed and Biased AGAINST america regardless if the facts are correct or not.
Its that BIAS that I abhor and hate.
7 years ago before ZH was big, i was at ML-IMPLODE...that guys was good and then something happened. Then I went to ZH after ML-s boom-bust started going downhill...
Sadly, it appears ZH has run its course. The trolls and hacks infiltrate these places, and somehow the original theme and original mission is turned 180-deg and now ZH basically just supports anything against "The Machine"
Im sorry if I have offended any true red-blooded americans, but then again, I dont think any true Red-Blooded American would be offended...true Americans can HATE certain things about our Country, and its what drives us to Voice opinions to try and FIX it - not just sit back and BASH it...
Its the reason I cant communicate with liberal ex-friends - they make no sense, and they confuse opinions with facts, and they allow history to be revised...everythjing is americas fault and money is bad...even though they WANT IT.
Another few more stories like this and I will be lights out on ZH for good.
I have Market-Ticker to read...he can be an ass, but he is not Biased.
I don't care. I will cheer for whoever brings the dollar down.
Obaminator, you said it right. They hate America, but not half as much as they hate Jews. Why are the trolls stinking up this site? Part of the problem is Tyler; clever guy but delusional in his leftist world where right is wrong and vice versa. I read this site for breaking news but on my guard against his heavily biased reporting.
Greatdanepole, I've been here since 2008. I think what you're seeing is more and more people finally waking up to the financial "fucking" they've been getting at the hands of Wall street and Washington, much of which seems to be controlled by those we can not speak of, for fear of being labeled "Anti-blah blah (being the truth in this case).
Seems like Israel doesn't care anymore if they're caught implementing the Final Solution aka genocide.
They're only killing off the ones who revel in genocide and mass murder. That is the Muzzie. Hope they kill them all.
idiot: the Palestinians are the owners of that land on their own land, so hoping you kill them all is hopign for genocide.
No one can own that land but a Palestinian, everyone else is a foreign invader.
Doesn't matter who is Muslim or not, all that matters is their LINEAGE is of that land.
Palestinian Lineage. Nothing else is legit.
Wait till these "brave warriors" get into the real built up areas...their gonna get ass their murdered asymmetrically. Ass clown joos think they can do what what US Army/USMC did in falluajah.Nooo their gonna FAIL.
All of you are stupid idiots. Jew and Muslim. Go away. No trash wanted here. How about the moderators do their job.
Israel is finally adopting the right strategy. The muslims must be demoralized to the point where they are no longer motivated to fire rockets at civilian locations in Israel or to use their own people as human shields. The only way to accomplish that is to become as mercyless as them. This war cannot be won with 'proportionate' violence, because the muslims don't give a fuck about that. They either get what they want, or be annihilated, that's the game they play wherever they are with non-muslims.
quoted excerpts from rhyming past:
"egypt and syria became the main middle eastern commercial partners of the soviet bloc and china. in 1956, egypt alone accounted for half of the soviet bloc trade with the ME, and the share of egypt and syria in 1957 was nearly 2/3rds of the total. big soviet aid offers were made to egypt after the arms deal in 1955. these contracts included agreements on a great number of industrial projects (including a nuclear laboratory in cairo), and culminated in the big 700-million ruble loan in nov/57. exports of egyptian cotton to the soviet bloc area and to china increased from 35 million dollars (US$) in 1953 to 96 million dollars in 1956. the increase in syrian trade with the soviet bloc began later than in egypt, the main reason undoubtedly being the fact that damascus was not as hard-pressed for outside aid as cairo. syria's economy was less dependent on the sale of one particular product, and generally speaking, was in much better shape than the egyptian economy. the comprehensive trade and aid agreement of oct/57, initiated a further considerable increase in syria's economic relations with the soviet bloc. it is assumed that the soviet bloc shipped arms and ammunition valued at between 400-500 million dollars to egypt, syria, and yemen between 1955-58, making armanments the most important single item by a considerable margin (out of total economic and military aid estimated between 750-800 million dollars). the first soviet arms deal was said to have involved 80 million dollars, but as the time passed and arms shipments continued the value of the deliveries was considered to be much higher (250-400 million US$). the original soviet arms deal with syria (spring 1956) was reported to have been for 30 million dollars. but soviet bloc arms shipments were much more extensive than anticipated in 1957, and estimates varied between 50-100 million dollars by the end of 1957. yemen was said to have recieved smaller quantities-- beteen 15-20 million dollars. neither the precise amount of the shipments, nor the price to be paid by egypt, syria, and yemen, nor the conditions of payment were published. it is known, however, that these transactions were very substantial, and colonel nasser repeatedly stressed that egypt had become the strongest military power in the ME and had acquired the strongest air force. it is known, in addition, that egypt and syria recieved several hundred MIG-15, MIG-17, and MIG-19 aircraft as well as a quantity of Il-28 medium jet bombers. in addition, both countries (syria and egypt -- the 'United Arab Republic' 2/1/58, an unexpected alliance that even surprised the soviets) received several hundred T-34 heavy tanks and self-propelled guns, several submarines, torpedo boats, minesweepers, and other naval craft. (* note: these arms were not obsolete as the west suggested but state-of-the-art). the soviet union agreeded to take cotton in payment for arms, to charge a small rate of interest (1%-3%) and to allow payments to be made over a period of 7-10 years. however cheaply priced these arms, the deal probably ran into several hundred million dollars, and a large part of the egyptian cotton crop had to be mortgaged for a number of years. arab statesmen and commentatorsargued that they had no alternative but to except the soviet blocs offers, for the west had refused to supply similar military equipment. but it also seems to be true that from a purely commercial point of veiw the arms were acquired at a bargain price (** this would never had happen with western [MIC] arms suppliers unless the parties [sovereign nations] involved became armed base satellite for US bases)." end quoted excerpts from:
"The Soviet Union and the Middle East" pgs. 272-4 c.1959 by Walter Z. Laqueur
Note: (*[**] )jmo
Ps. Since the death of Stalin in 1953 the Soviet bloc made some startling changes to its ME and foreign policy. Policy changes for Stalin were black and white, only harmed the Soviet bloc's world opinion.
Ps2. Stalin hated Ataturk and Chiang Kai-shek for their betrayal of the communist movement. Both were given Soviet aid and weapons and used the Russian altruistic gift[?] to kill off their communist cadres and sympathizers. Stalin [w]as not one to betray as Kai-shek and Ataturk would certainly find out. The only cautionary tale here is that the soviet union was nascent and finding its footing in the mid-20's after WWI. But, once they came into their own in the mid-50's, all bets were off... at what they could accomplish. Spudnik, and the most powerful Nuclear bomb in the world were now in their arsenal, thus the Cold-War became a reality.
Ps3. China was still a subordinate for another 40 years.
Lastly,.. [t]his is what Russia's 'Putin' is doing right under Obama's nose-- he's doing a 1955-58 redux with Egypt/ Syria as I write! [H]is countries love for the Syrian people will never waiver... so arming Syrian's to the gills, is a no-brainer! For it was Syria that was always with Russia from day one in the ME! [A]nd, Vlad isn't a fair-weather friend like those of the past, that don't like 'Rhyming History with reality'!?!
jmo
thankyou Tyler
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"egypt and syria became the main middle eastern commercial partners of the soviet bloc and china. in 1956, egypt alone accounted for half of the soviet bloc trade with the ME, and the share of egypt and syria in 1957 was nearly two-thirds of the total. big soviet aid offers were made to egypt after the arms deal in 1955. these contracts included agreements on a great number of spring trial projects (including a nuclear laboratory in cairo), and culminated in the big 700-million ruble loan in nov/57. exports of egyptian cotton to the soviet bloc area and to china increased from 35 million dollars (US$) in 1953 to 96 million dollars in 1956.
the increase in syrian trade with the soviet bloc began later than in egypt, the main reason undoubtedly being the fact that damascus was not as hard-pressed for outside aid as cairo. syria's economy was less dependent on the sale of one particular product, and generally speaking, was in much better shape than the egyptian economy. the comprehensive trade and aid agreement of oct/57, initiated a further considerable increase in syria's economic relations with the soviet bloc. it is assumed that the soviet bloc shipped arms and ammunition valued at between 400-500 million dollars to egypt, syria, and yemen between 1955-58, making armanments the most important single item by a considerable margin (out of total economic and military aid estimated between 750-800 million dollars). the first soviet arms deal was said to have involved 80 million dollars, but as the time passed and arms shipments continued the value of the deliveries was considered to be much higher (250-400 million US$). the original soviet arms deal with syria (spring 1956) was reported to have been for 30 million dollars. but soviet bloc arms shipments were much more extensive than anticipated in 1957, and estimates varied between 50-100 million dollars by the end of 1957. yemen was said to have recieved smaller quantities-- beteen 15-20 million dollars. neither the precise amount of the shipments, nor the price to be paid by egypt, syria, and yemen, nor the conditions of payment were published. it is known, however, that these transactions were very substantial, and colonel nasser repeatedly stressed that egypt had become the strongest military power in the ME and had acquired the strongest air force. it is known, in addition, that egypt and syria recieved several hundred MIG-15, MIG-17, and MIG-19 aircraft as well as a quantity of Il-28 medium jet bombers. in addition, both countries (syria and egypt -- the 'United Arab Republic' 2/1/58, an unexpected alliance that even surprised the soviets) received several hundred T-34 heavy tanks and self-propelled guns, several submarines, torpedo boats, minesweepers, and other naval craft. (* note: these arms were not obsolete as the west suggested but state-of-the-art). the soviet union agreeded to take cotton in payment for arms, to charge a small rate of interest (1%-3%) and to allow payments to be made over a period of 7-10 years. however cheaply priced these arms, the deal probably ran into several hundred million dollars, and a large part of the egyptian cotton crop had to be mortgaged for a number of years. arab statesmen and commentatorsargued that they had no alternative but to except the soviet blocs offers, for the west had refused to supply similar military equipment. but it also seems to be true that from a purely commercial point of veiw the arms were acquired at a bargain price (** this would never had happen with western [MIC] arms suppliers unless the parties [sovereign nations] involved became armed base satellite for US bases)." end quoted excerpts from:
"The Soviet Union and the Middle East" pgs. 272-4 c.1959 by Walter Z. Laqueur
Note: (*[**] )jmo
Ps. Since the death of Stalin in 1953 the Soviet bloc made some startling changes to its ME and foreign policy. Policy changes for Stalin were black and white, only harmed the Soviet bloc's world opinion.
Ps2. Stalin hated Ataturk and Chiang Kai-shek for their betrayal of the communist movement. Both were given Soviet aid and weapons and used the Russian altruistic gift[?] to kill off their communist cadres and sympathizers. Stalin [w]as not one to betray as Kai-shek and Ataturk would certainly find out. The only cautionary tale here is that the soviet union was nascent and finding its footing in the mid-20's after WWI. But, once they came into their own in the mid-50's, all bets were off... at what they could accomplish. Spudnik, and the most powerful Nuclear bomb in the world were now in their arsenal, thus the Cold-War became a reality.
Ps3. China was still a subordinate for another 40 years.
Lastly,.. [t]his is what Russia's 'Putin' is doing right under Obama's nose-- he's doing a 1955-58 redux with Egypt/ Syria as I write! [H]is countries love for the Syrian people will never waiver... so arming Syrian's to the gills, is a no-brainer! For it was Syria that was always with Russia from day one in the ME! [A]nd, Vlad isn't a fair-weather friend like those of the past, that don't like 'Rhyming History with reality'!?!
jmo
thankyou Tyler
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"egypt and syria became the main middle eastern commercial partners of the soviet bloc and china. in 1956, egypt alone accounted for half of the soviet bloc trade with the ME, and the share of egypt and syria in 1957 was nearly two-thirds of the total. big soviet aid offers were made to egypt after the arms deal in 1955. these contracts included agreements on a great number of spring trial projects (including a nuclear laboratory in cairo), and culminated in the big 700-million ruble loan in nov/57. exports of egyptian cotton to the soviet bloc area and to china increased from 35 million dollars (US$) in 1953 to 96 million dollars in 1956.
the increase in syrian trade with the soviet bloc began later than in egypt, the main reason undoubtedly being the fact that damascus was not as hard-pressed for outside aid as cairo. syria's economy was less dependent on the sale of one particular product, and generally speaking, was in much better shape than the egyptian economy. the comprehensive trade and aid agreement of oct/57, initiated a further considerable increase in syria's economic relations with the soviet bloc. it is assumed that the soviet bloc shipped arms and ammunition valued at between 400-500 million dollars to egypt, syria, and yemen between 1955-58, making armanments the most important single item by a considerable margin (out of total economic and military aid estimated between 750-800 million dollars). the first soviet arms deal was said to have involved 80 million dollars, but as the time passed and arms shipments continued the value of the deliveries was considered to be much higher (250-400 million US$). the original soviet arms deal with syria (spring 1956) was reported to have been for 30 million dollars. but soviet bloc arms shipments were much more extensive than anticipated in 1957, and estimates varied between 50-100 million dollars by the end of 1957. yemen was said to have recieved smaller quantities-- beteen 15-20 million dollars. neither the precise amount of the shipments, nor the price to be paid by egypt, syria, and yemen, nor the conditions of payment were published. it is known, however, that these transactions were very substantial, and colonel nasser repeatedly stressed that egypt had become the strongest military power in the ME and had acquired the strongest air force. it is known, in addition, that egypt and syria recieved several hundred MIG-15, MIG-17, and MIG-19 aircraft as well as a quantity of Il-28 medium jet bombers. in addition, both countries (syria and egypt -- the 'United Arab Republic' 2/1/58, an unexpected alliance that even surprised the soviets) received several hundred T-34 heavy tanks and self-propelled guns, several submarines, torpedo boats, minesweepers, and other naval craft. (* note: these arms were not obsolete as the west suggested but state-of-the-art). the soviet union agreeded to take cotton in payment for arms, to charge a small rate of interest (1%-3%) and to allow payments to be made over a period of 7-10 years. however cheaply priced these arms, the deal probably ran into several hundred million dollars, and a large part of the egyptian cotton crop had to be mortgaged for a number of years. arab statesmen and commentatorsargued that they had no alternative but to except the soviet blocs offers, for the west had refused to supply similar military equipment. but it also seems to be true that from a purely commercial point of veiw the arms were acquired at a bargain price (** this would never had happen with western [MIC] arms suppliers unless the parties [sovereign nations] involved became armed base satellite for US bases)." end quoted excerpts from:
"The Soviet Union and the Middle East" pgs. 272-4 c.1959 by Walter Z. Laqueur
Note: (*[**] )jmo
Ps. Since the death of Stalin in 1953 the Soviet bloc made some startling changes to its ME and foreign policy. Policy changes for Stalin were black and white, only harmed the Soviet bloc's world opinion.
Ps2. Stalin hated Ataturk and Chiang Kai-shek for their betrayal of the communist movement. Both were given Soviet aid and weapons and used the Russian altruistic gift[?] to kill off their communist cadres and sympathizers. Stalin [w]as not one to betray as Kai-shek and Ataturk would certainly find out. The only cautionary tale here is that the soviet union was nascent and finding its footing in the mid-20's after WWI. But, once they came into their own in the mid-50's, all bets were off... at what they could accomplish. Spudnik, and the most powerful Nuclear bomb in the world were now in their arsenal, thus the Cold-War became a reality.
Ps3. China was still a subordinate for another 40 years.
Lastly,.. [t]his is what Russia's 'Putin' is doing right under Obama's nose-- he's doing a 1955-58 redux with Egypt/ Syria as I write! [H]is countries love for the Syrian people will never waiver... so arming Syrian's to the gills, is a no-brainer! For it was Syria that was always with Russia from day one in the ME! [A]nd, Vlad isn't a fair-weather friend like those of the past, that don't like 'Rhyming History with reality'!?!
jmo
thankyou Tyler
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