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Malaysia PM Announces MH17 Black Boxes Will Be Handed Over Shortly

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Quelling some conspiracies - though we are sure more will come on 'tampering' - the Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak issued a statement confirming it has reached an agreement on the MH17 investigation...

  • MALAYSIA SAYS BLACK BOXES TO BE HANDED OVER TO MALAYSIAN TEAM

Of course, this means the "credibility" of the latest YouTube clip from Ukraine, which "supposedly" revealed that the "rebels" were instructed by Moscow to hide the black boxes will be severly questioned, or would be if there was anyone out there still questioning anything in the relentless propaganda barrage. Actually scratch that: said clip will now promptly disappear from social networks, period.

As AP reports,

Malaysia's prime minister reaches deal with rebel leader to allow "safe access" to crash site.

Furthermore,

  • MALAYSIA SAYS IT HAS ESTABLISHED AGREEMENT ON MH17 BODIES
  • MALAYSIA SAYS BODIES TO LEAVE FOR THE NETHERLANDS

The timing of the handover of the black boxes is 9pm Ukraine time.

 

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Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:32 | 4984035 PartysOver
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I reject your reality and subsitute my own.

The rabbit hole is getting deeper.  Paging Mr Leary, Mr Timothy Leary.  Please meet your party in DC.  And bring the goodies.

 

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:35 | 4984060 COSMOS
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If Russia is smart it would of sent experts to east ukraine to download the contents of those blackboxes as an insurance policy...just in case the Malaysians buckle under US pressure, not the first time a govt has thrown its citizens under the bus, or put them on a plane or boat (ie USS Liberty)

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:40 | 4984084 Skateboarder
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Anything and everything can and will be doctored. I don't trust the verity of any black box systems (as a concept, not this particular application) except the ones I design.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 14:13 | 4984533 PartysOver
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Who's reality.  LOL.  Pager My Leary, Mr Timothy Leary..........

http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainia...

Thinking I 'm gonna need a bigger tin foil hat.  And soon.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:42 | 4984098 EverythingEviL
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The black boxes are useless, just like the air traffic control tapes from the Malaysian flight that disappeared are useless. They will just doctor up the info they need to fit their already established narrative and that is what will be released. It's not like we haven't seen this before.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:46 | 4984116 potato
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There ought to be video of the whole operation of decoding the recordings.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:59 | 4984164 Skateboarder
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That would be a very unexciting video of a yes-man-crusty-nerd moving around sound clips and applying filters in Audacity.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:31 | 4984342 ConfederateH
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It doesn't even have to be a good fake.  In fact, the added controversy will just muddy the water and confuse the sheeple.  Think birth certificates.  Think school shootings in CT.  Think Bengazi.  The pattern is clear.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:45 | 4985022 fuu
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Pretty sure the CIA/SVR can spring for Pro Tools or Logic. Audacity is for noobs.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:49 | 4985392 sleigher
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Wanted: Video and Audio expert.  Fluent in audio/video editing software and techniques.  Willingness to be 'creative' in an 'official' capacity.  Salary commensurate with experience. Call 1-800-318-2596  

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:58 | 4984161 Kirk2NCC1701
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Malaysians will buckle under pressure/coercion.  The "sayanim" are in place, to make sure things go their way.

As indicated before, I'd allow a bona fide international team into the region, to "inspect away" to their heart's content, but making sure that potential dual agents from the US, UK, etc are not contaminating the scene or the data.  Also, as mentioned before, I'd upload the data to the internet, so the whole world can "inspect" the flight and voice recorders.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:38 | 4984376 daveO
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'Buckle under pressure' makes sense. The threat of more 370's will surely do it!

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:36 | 4984064 Tao 4 the Show
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... and after you re-assemble your dust from space*, please let us know what you see from up there. Perhaps it will help clarify...

 

* Timothy Leary had his ashes launched into space after cremation

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:37 | 4984073 Eireann go Brach
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Newsflash! The handing over of the Black Boxes has been delayed until Obama finishes up his round of Golf!

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:03 | 4984183 813kml
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Barry has no interest in boxes, especially if they're black.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:19 | 4984274 pods
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Well, maybe a fart box.

pods

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:30 | 4984037 DoChenRollingBearing
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Well, maybe this will help us get to the truth.

Maybe, I hope so, but I have my doubts.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:33 | 4984051 alien-IQ
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This is politics. The truth is irrelevant.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:38 | 4984074 Ghordius
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to be frank, if I had the simplified (and non-existing) choice between lies and peace or truth and war...

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:45 | 4984108 Tao 4 the Show
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The trouble could be that "lies and peace" is a transient phenomena. As in, been there, done that for quite some time now. Evil deeds are done behind the camouflage of lies, and history would appear to show that when enough of these accumulate, the result is dissolution.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:54 | 4984152 SoDamnMad
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We regret to inform you that the drive crashed (same brand as the IRS one) shortly before MH17 vanished from radar tracking. 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:32 | 4984048 Berspankme
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Large pallets of fiat seen loading on Malaysian flight in dc

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:01 | 4984151 Cacete de Ouro
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Sounds like The Money Plane...where the NY Fed and the Republic Bank of New York were laundering tonnes of new fiat USD to Russia back in the 90s. Russian banks would transfer funds to correspondent accounts of London banks, who then transferred it to Republic Bank of New York who then switched it for new USD bills, literally billions of new notes which were then flown back to Russia. One of the most out in the open money washing events ever, and all with the blessing of the NY Fed.

http://books.google.com/books?id=0OICAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=%22the...

http://books.google.com/books?id=0OICAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&output...

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:13 | 4984239 Chupacabra-322
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It's one huge Pozi Scheme & at the end of the day, "Theyre All In On It."

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:33 | 4984053 pods
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God I hope the remains are not flown on another Malaysian air flight.

pods

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:42 | 4984092 Skateboarder
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TPTB only follow two of the three Rs: Reuse and Recycle.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:51 | 4984136 Circle of DNA
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I hope the black boxes are not flown on another Malaysian flight...

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:36 | 4984065 observer007
Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:36 | 4984068 RiskyBidness
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A voice on the recorder will be Janet Yellen talking backwards and saying PID GNIKCUF EHT YUB.  AKA......BTFD!!!

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:46 | 4984114 Bastiat
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First her head will turn around 180 degrees.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:55 | 4984154 PT
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360

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 16:33 | 4985109 omniversling
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720

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:38 | 4984075 JustObserving
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Interesting conclusions from Vineyardsaker:

Still, a few very interesting things came out of this press conference.

 First, the Ukies have been caught lying about their military aircraft in the area of the disaster.  They had claimed that no UAF aircraft were in the area.  The Russians have shown the recorded radar tracks which reveal the following: there was what appears to have been a military aircraft (with no transponder) flying below 5000m which suddenly began climbing just before MH17 was hit by some kind of missile.  This unidentified aircraft then stayed and observed as MH17 fell to the ground.  The Russians added that a SU-25 armed with a R-60 air to air missile could have shot down MH17.  Maybe.  But what is certain is that the civilian radars did detected this strange Ukie aircraft.

Second, the Russians are challenging their American colleagues to show the images they claim show the launch of the BukM1 rocket.  They also point out at the interesting coincidence that an US experimental launch detection satellite was exactly over the area at the moment of the tragedy.  Clearly, they are tossing the world experts some kind of lead here, but I am not sure what this is.

Third, the Russians have shown their own space-based imagery which shows that one battery of BukM1 had been moved just prior to the incident (See for yourself here).  It will be interesting to see if the Ukies explain what is shown on these picture and, if yes, how?

As I said in my first post about MH17, I have no hope whatsoever that the western plutocracy will ever admit that the junta did it.  Ditto for the corporate presstitues of the MSM, but I do hope that the world will see this tragedy for what is clearly was: a deliberate false flag on the part of the Nazi junta in Kiev.  As David Chandler correctly points out about 9/11, the proof of a cover up is in itself already a proof of a conspiracy.

The Saker

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/07/the-russian-military-finally-sp...

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:44 | 4984106 potato
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The US satellite was probably there to determine what kind of data the Ruskies would and would not have been able to gather, and structure their story around it.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:24 | 4984308 Chupacabra-322
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Absolutely! It's all about the Intelligence gathering to enable these Pure Evil doers to create the Script, False Narratives, PsyOp & Propaganda to run with on the minds of the Individual

Perception is reality with these Vermin, sick Fucks.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:02 | 4984178 SoDamnMad
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After Russian Flakers shot down the Su25 earlier in the week one would expect Ukie aircraft to be in the area. Nice to have lots of time (while the site was under guard) to pick up evidence and drop false evidence.  I reject a "robust" investigation of this incident.  I believe nobody and morne for the victims families. 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 14:16 | 4984545 Victor999
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Yes, but at the same altitude and shadowing the civilian plane?  I don't think so.  When the evidence comes in, you are going to find that that fighter jet launched an air-to-air missile at the MH17.  The missile's signature on the airframe of the MH17 will be unmistakable.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 16:45 | 4985153 omniversling
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Also on Saker shortly after the incident, a post from a contributor with a calculation and estimation of where the strike would likely have occurred for the wreckage to land where it did. Am no math genius, perhaps someone else here could verify these formulae? Go to point 12 in this summary. Other points worth studying also, and analysis although early in the timeline, has held up well to the barrage of disinfo that has since flowed from the MSM.

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/07/evidence-continues-to-emerge-mh...

Original in Russian here: 4yma3iy LiveJournal

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:40 | 4984089 Republi-Ken
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THE REASON IS KERRY AND OBAMA ATTACKING PUTIN PUBLICALLY...LAST FEW DAYS

THIS IS CAPITULATION BY PUTIN

PUTIN IS BEING ISOLATED 

RUSSIAN BILLIOANIRES PRIVATELY SCARED OF PUTIN

RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRES LOST BILLIONS ALREADY

PUTIN IS DESTROYING HIS SUPPORT AMONG OLGARCHS

BEGINNING OF END OF PUTIN PROBABLE

OBAMA 1 PUTIN 0 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:48 | 4984118 Quinvarius
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Haha.  Okay.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:40 | 4984090 Cacete de Ouro
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Given that the Malaysian government totally bundled the MH370 investigation and took nearly two months to release the cargo manifest of MH370, as opposed to that of MH17, it appears that the Malaysian government is as likely as any other government authority to deny, deny, deny, bury evidence, deceive, and stall.

Their track record in doing so is flawless...

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:19 | 4984268 BigJim
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Be funny if they accidentally released the black boxes of the MH370 plane. Now THAT would raise some questions!

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:42 | 4984097 Republi-Ken
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THE REASON IS KERRY AND OBAMA ATTACKING PUTIN PUBLICALLY...LAST FEW DAYS

THIS IS CAPITULATION BY PUTIN.  TURN OVER BLACK BOXES.

PUTIN IS BEING ISOLATED 

RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRES PRIVATELY SCARED OF PUTIN

RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRES LOST BILLIONS ALREADY

PUTIN DESTROYING SUPPORT AMONG OLGARCHS

BEGINNING OF END OF PUTIN PROBABLE

IF U KEEPIN' SCORE ITS... OBAMA 1 PUTIN 0 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:54 | 4984149 Who was that ma...
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It doesn't matter how much you yell, you're still full of it.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 22:04 | 4986341 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Republi-Ken is an established net.kook with a morbid fear of the "soviets".

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:04 | 4984190 Dr. Engali
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You must write for Yahoo, because you're parroting their stories with quote from "one Russian billionaire"..... Lol

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:43 | 4984101 Republi-Ken
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THE REASON IS KERRY AND OBAMA ATTACKING PUTIN PUBLICALLY...LAST FEW DAYS

THIS IS CAPITULATION BY PUTIN.  TURN OVER BLACK BOXES.

PUTIN IS BEING ISOLATED 

RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRES PRIVATELY SCARED OF PUTIN

RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRES LOST BILLIONS ALREADY

PUTIN DESTROYING SUPPORT AMONG OLAGARCHS

BEGINNING OF END OF PUTIN PROBABLE

IF U KEEPIN' SCORE ITS... OBAMA 1 PUTIN -1 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:48 | 4984126 Husk-Erzulie
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Wankers gonna wank...

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:20 | 4984280 moonman
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Tool

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:47 | 4984117 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Anyone have any quotes from Germany in the last few days?  On Saturday I read that "Merkel and Putin agreed" about international oversight of the crash scene.  Then on Sunday the papers said that Merkel had given Putin one last chance to come clean before facing more sanctions.  But there was no quote.  

 

To me all that matters here is the relationship between the US Germany and Russia.  Germany picks the winner and then the loser has to decide whether to back down or start WW3.  

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:05 | 4984198 SoDamnMad
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Molotov-Ribbentropp agreement all over again.   Germany doesn't think about right or wrong or exerting pressure when necessary. It considers it's wallet FIRST.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:20 | 4984282 BigJim
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 Germany doesn't think about right or wrong or exerting pressure when necessary. It considers it's wallet FIRST.

So very different fom those paragons of virtue the US, UK, and Israel.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:27 | 4985329 bombdog
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Really? So can you tell me why did they vault all their gold in New York and London?

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 16:49 | 4985169 omniversling
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The Jackass has a new rant about it...worth a read:

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1405540920.php

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 12:53 | 4984141 GOLD AND SILVER...
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Greatest mindfuck of all time would be if these boxes happened to be from MH370.  Ridiculous I know, but hey its a boring Monday morning.  :D

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:00 | 4984171 PT
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one.  Although you'd think that surely a little bit of effort would be put in to make it not too obvious.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:17 | 4985489 grekko
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I don't think too much planning went into it.  It sounds like an off the seat of your pants type of op.  Like now they are thinking, "Oh shit!  How do we spin this now?"

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:11 | 4984227 SoDamnMad
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A couple decades ago Airbus had a crash of the earlier fly-by-wire aircraft. The press got a picture of the singed, blackened black boxes being removed from the crash site. But when the French government  opened the boxes during the press conference (to support pilot error and not software errors) , there were two, perfect condition, brightly orange painted black box housings. They were caught and had to fess up tha tthe engines didn't spool up properly.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:25 | 4984315 daveO
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They flew that one into the ocean while practicing 'remote control', IMO.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:15 | 4985470 grekko
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Now, THAT is precious!

 

But in all reality, everytime TPTB try to propagandize us, someone rips a hole right through it.  These idiots probably didn't even think of the black box.  Obama would look like a total Jack Ass, just like Kerry & Hillary already do.

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:01 | 4984172 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's it -- Malaysian Air is now on my Do Not Fly list.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:10 | 4985463 grekko
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Kirk, the idea is right but you really need to do better, like this:

 

"Kirk to crew.  By order of the Captain, no crewmember is allowed to fly Malasian Air for safety and security reasons.  Kirk out.  Mr. Sulu, take the helm, Spock and McCoy...follow me."

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:03 | 4984185 jack stephan
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You try to drag Walton up and down the court for 48 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH2zD-xq3t4&sns=em

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:08 | 4984213 timeless21
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False flag led by CIA, Ukies. Ukies gets attention, EU impose sanctions on ruskies, free trade deal on the way.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:10 | 4984223 NOZZLE
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Please tell me Putin already took a recording of the data.

And why would anyone trust those lying little yellow monkeys with anything after their perpetual lies about the other 777 they lost and then lied about the location of for days on end sending SAR teams on a wild goose chase.

Aslo, who the hell is giving these yellow monkeys the money to purchase 777's when most American carriers are still using DC-10 junk trucks.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:14 | 4984242 SoDamnMad
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I have only seen DC-10s being flown by cargo carriers. There are still a few MD-11s around but not sure which carriers are flying them. Can you tell me which US carriers are flying DC10s?

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:13 | 4984234 Lostinfortwalton
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The flight recorders are the property of Malaysian Airlines. Protocol is that the country in which the accident occurred is responsible for the investigation and would normally take custody of the recorders during the investigation. However, this is not an "accident" - it is a criminal act, whether intentional or not, so the issue is muddied to say the least as to who does what, when.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:15 | 4984252 NoWayJose
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Better to give them to the UN ICAO team. Malaysia might let the data doctors do some operating on the actual data. Hopefully the Russians have downloaded the data already and have it ready to release - especially if there is a doctored US/Malaysian version.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:21 | 4984290 john milton
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seems like we need nato missile shield in ukraine to prevent rogue missiles...;) they fucked up when the wreckage landed on separatists area, they would have invited yankee troops to investigate it

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:44 | 4984398 mastersnark
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"Hello Ukrainian Air Control. We are flying very happy. We can't see Ukrainian missiles anywhere of course! But we think those dirty Russian-backed terrorists are trying to shoot a missile at us. So it is them if we blow up. Thank you."

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 14:02 | 4984494 yellowsub
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So it should be expected to be delivered by Sept.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 14:06 | 4984506 zenon
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I don't think the separitists would hand over the black boxes if they had incriminating evidence, would they?

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:32 | 4985336 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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It won't tell you whose missile hit the plane. May shed some light on about where and when they got hit though. It maybe be useful in determing the type of missile like did it target an engine aka heat or was it laser guided for example. The Ukrainian air traffic control radar logs would probably be a better source to pinpoint where it was fired from for starters.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 19:46 | 4985814 R3ap3R
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That video is hilarious i bet its just a prank, this is no secret service release its on fucking youtube who can prove that the ukrainian secret service posted this

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