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Russia Accuses US Of Fabricating MH17 Evidence As US Reveals More "Evidence" Of Russian Military Involvement
The farce of facts continues to grow as Ukraine's national security council head says US is wrong (in finding no link to Russia) and claims to have proof MH17 was shot down by Russians (from BBG)
- EXPERT PRELIM CONCLUSION IS MH17 SHOT BY RUSSIANS: PARUBIY
- EXPERT PRELIM VIEW IS RUSSIAN MILITARY, WEAPON DOWNED MH17
- UKRAINIAN NATL SECURITY COUNCIL HEAD PARUBIY POSTS ON TWITTER
- PARUBIY COMMENTS ON PRELIM CONCLUSIONS FROM `INTL EXPERTS'
and then the US State Department unleashes another statement of alleged 'proof' that Russia is sending rockets to separatists and firing on Ukraine's military from within Russia. Of course, while no 'evidence' has been offered, we are sure this is all backed by YouTube clips and Tweets that 'prove' it is fact.
- RUSSIA SENDING MULTIPLE ROCKET LAUNCHERS TO SEPARATISTS: HARF
- ARTILLERY FIRING FROM RUSSIA AT UKRAINE MILITARY FORCES: HARF
Here's the video proof that Russia is firing into Ukraine (allegedly) - click image for link
And then Russia hit back, blasting Washington's claims that pro-Russian rebels fired a missile that hit the plane on July 17 "mostly cited social networks" and did not correspond to reality.
Russia suggested on Thursday that the United States was trying to fabricate evidence that separatists in eastern Ukraine shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17.
Anatoly Antonov, deputy defence minister, said Washington's claims that pro-Russian rebels fired a missile that hit the plane on July 17 "mostly cited social networks" and did not correspond to reality.
Alexander Yakovenko, Russia's ambassador to Britain, also poured scorn on the widespread belief that Moscow is supplying the rebels, saying: "Russia doesn't supply weapons to local de facto (separatist) authorities in eastern Ukraine" and that "no evidence whatsoever has been presented that the Russian government has been doing this".
"So where is this evidence?" he asked on the Rossiya-24 channel. "Why is it not presented to the public? Is it, if I may say so, still being finished off?"
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The US using fabricated social media as a pretext to start a war? Where have we seen this before? Oh yes, last summer, when the Obama administration brought the world to the edge of all out war over the Syrian "chemical attack", an attack which Seymor Hersh subsequently showed was nothing but a false flag provocation.
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Funny!
Kiev is not going to figure it out until old man winter rolls around, then the starvation and freezing in the dark will commence. Their will realized their own industrial base in the western Ukraine has been bombed out, they have no income from the Donbass coal mines or engine companies (that supply Russia by the way).
All they will have is farmland in the west and wannabe nazis running around looking for loans.
If the country splits then it is likely the world’s largest Jewish cultural center located in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine will begin to enlarge and become the center of the New Ukraine. The holocaust menorah center is seven stories high on 538,000 feet and Igor Kolomoyskyy is a privat banking partner. You know the guy funding Privy Sector.
Did you mean industrial base in East?
And more forests and least farmland is in West..more to other direction, overall South and East
Is your map upside down?
Looks like I'm just going to have to go over there and kick some ass.
The only thing we can say for sure is that we can't say anything for sure. Nobody's telling the truth.
Whether shot down by accident or intentionally, most of the evidence on how and why this occurred will most likely come from sources other than the crash site or fields where the flight went down. I for one feel total disgust and seriously distressed that this tragedy has become nothing more than a propaganda gem. More on this topic in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/ukraine-crash-propaganda-gem.html
yes the mh17 was a cia/jsoc/mossad operation to start another world war...fuck the rockefeller nazis and bush crime syndicate
Here is the video of the Russian live fire drill from March. The angle is slightly different but note the time of the year on the trees in both videos, the color of the grass -- and ESPECIALLY the ODD shaped pine tree toward the right side of the batteries in both videos! And while you cannot count the number of rockets, compare the number of seconds of actual firing!
Proof - certainly - but NOT of a Russian attack - but rather of MOAR fabricated evidence!
http://www.military.com/video/rockets/artillery-rockets/huge-barrage-rus...
Give that that video was filmed in the winter and it is now almost the end of July, i wouldn't give it any credibility.
DOH, everyone else already said that. My bad.
100 year anniversary of WWI in 3... 2... 1.
No no no, those are Amazon delivery drones....
If you haven't seen this yet, well worth it. Ties it all together.
http://greatgameindia.com/mh17-chameleon-operation-rapid-trident-ii/
Operation Rapid Trident II
The announcement of U.S. BREEZE and RAPID TRIDENT II military maneuvers came on May 21, 2014 by Vice President Joe Biden’s office. Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, is a newly-named director of the Ukrainian natural gas and oil company Burisma Holdings, Ltd., owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, the Ukrainian-Israeli mafia oligarch, who is known as the “Chameleon.” Kolomoisky has raised his own mercenary army, complete with the BUK missiles allegedly used in the shoot down of MH-17. Kolomoisky, the Governor of Dnipropetrovsk oblast in eastern Ukraine, has threatened terrorist attacks against Russian-speaking officials in eastern Ukraine, including assassinations.
The 10-day NATO exercise code named “BREEZE 2014” has ended in Black Sea. The exercise, which included the use of electronic warfare and electronic intelligence aircraft such as the Boeing EA-18G Growler and the Boeing E3 Sentry Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS), coincided with the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine, some 40 miles from the Russian border. NATO ships and aircraft had the Donetsk and Luhansk regions under total radar and electronic surveillance.
MH-17 was shot down over a region where Russian-speaking separatist forces have been battling against the alliance of the Ukrainian armed forces and a private mercenary force answerable to a Ukrainian-Jewish billionaire oligarch.
The U.S. Army has revealed that the 10-day exercise involved “commercial traffic monitoring.” Because of the sophistication of the electronic warfare and intelligence used during SEA BREEZE, it can be assumed that commercial traffic monitoring included monitoring the track of MH-17.
Past NATO-Ukraine exercises in Crimea were called “SEA BREEZE.” This year’s annual SEA BREEZE exercise with Ukraine, approved by the rump Ukrainian Parliament, is clouded in mystery with the Pentagon saying it was only “in the planning stage and we can’t announce dates yet.” However, 200 U.S. Army personnel normally assigned to bases in Germany were in Ukraine during the time of the MH-17 fly-over. They were participating in NATO exercise RAPID TRIDENT II. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense led the exercise.
BREEZE included the AEGIS-class guided missile cruiser USS Vela Gulf. AEGIS cruisers’ AN/SPY 1 radar has the ability to track all aircraft over a large region. For example, the AEGIS test center in Moorestown, New Jersey, was able to see the Boeing 747 TWA Flight 800 when it disappeared from radar screens in 1996 near East Moriches Bay, Long Island. According to Lockheed Martin personnel who operated the AEGIS test center in New Jersey, the Navy ordered the SPY 1 radar turned off for “maintenance” shortly before the downing of TWA 800.
From the Black Sea, the Vela Gulf was able to track Malaysian Airlines 17 over the Black Sea and any missiles fired at the plane. U.S. AWACS electronic intelligence (ELINT) aircraft were also flying over the Black Sea region at the time of the MH-17 flyover of Ukraine. Growler aircraft have the capability to jam radar systems in all surface-to-air threats.
The announcement of U.S. BREEZE and RAPID TRIDENT II military maneuvers came on May 21, 2014 by Vice President Joe Biden’s office. Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, is a newly-named director of the Ukrainian natural gas and oil company Burisma Holdings, Ltd., owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, the Ukrainian-Israeli mafia oligarch, who is known as the “Chameleon.” Kolomoisky has raised his own mercenary army, complete with the BUK missiles allegedly used in the shoot down of MH-17. Kolomoisky, the Governor of Dnipropetrovsk oblast in eastern Ukraine, has threatened terrorist attacks against Russian-speaking officials in eastern Ukraine, including assassinations. He has publicly spoken of Ukraine as the “second homeland” of the Jewish people.
Right at the very begining of this appolgy to say proof there's a deciduous tree in the centre. Where are the leaves? This was certainly filmed in early spring or autumn. Note the colour of the grass too.
Here we go
'It was a mistake, we never meant to fire it, honest' from the Ukrainian Army
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191242509/Ukrainian-Air-Defense-Exercise...
wow, wow, wow!!!!!
Suddenly it becomes a mistake if the Ukrainian Air Defense?!
I mean US almost started the next world war and now it just a little mistake?
The analysis of Aleksand Zhilin postet from @JohninMK seems more and more becoming the truth. Ukraine and the US stage a crash to lift the encirclement of its brigades in the southern pocket by the Russian border then they would have been asked in response to international pressure to secure the crash sites with their troops.
Hey, all you Putin and Russian haters, do you still remember what had been said at the beginning from Kiew and the US?!
Isn't this a shock for your believe system? Or do you still believe that this is not true.
When governments spy on their people and government propaganda programs intersect it is very dangerous and the potential of abuse is huge. This leads down a road towards less freedom and is paved with the bones of all those who have failed to be outraged by governments slowly removing their liberties
This leaves all of us open to both blackmail or abuse by those in power for what they claim is a greater good as they determine just what that might be. Never overestimate the sophistication and ability of our government to clarify exactly what is happening anywhere and at any time. The recent score of scandals plaguing Washington makes it clear that more fact-free confusion and speculation which is the fuel of a propaganda-based reporting system is in no shortage. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/when-propaganda-and-surveillance....
Just a reminder : Parubiy is the former of the ukrainian neonazi party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Parubiy
so no doubt that citing a neonazi as an expert is a really smart move
Anyone seen the episode of Vikings where Horick makes his move on Ragnar but Ragnar saw it coming all along and was simply waiting to wipe out Horick? This whole Ukrainian thing seems like that. Putin is Ragnar.