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Second US Citizen Infected With Ebola In Liberia, Which Shuts Down Borders To Slow Epidemic
Update, one which many will say has been long overdue: Liberia Shuts Border Crossings to Slow Ebola Spread. From Bloomberg:
- Liberia Shuts Border Crossings to Slow Ebola Spread: Allafrica
- Only major border crossings at Roberts International Airport, James Spriggs Payne Airport, Foya Crossing, Bo Waterside Crossing, Ganta Crossing to remain open, AllAfrica.com says, citing Liberian govt statement.
- At those entry points, testing centers to be set up; “stringent” preventive measures to be announced
- New travel policy by Liberia Airport Authority on inspection, testing of all passengers to be strictly observed
- There will be restrictions on public gatherings incl. solidarity marches, demonstrations
- Hotels, restaurants, entertainment centers, video clubs to play 5-min. film on Ebola awareness, prevention
- Govt vehicles to be commandeered, as needed, to support health delivery system
- All govt facilities, public places to install/provide public access for hand-washing
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It was a few short hours ago when we reported that as part of the escalating Ebola epidemic in West Africa a US doctor, Kent Brantly had himself succumbed to the deadly virus. Moments ago we found out that a second US doctor from the same aid organization in Liberia, Nancy Writebol, has been infected with Ebola.
Writebol in a June 2011 photo from the Rafiki missionary foundation
From CBS:
Two U.S. citizens are now reported to be infected with the deadly and incurable Ebola virus in West Africa.
The first American reported to have contracted the disease is an American doctor working with Ebola patients in Liberia, who tested positive for the deadly virus, North Carolina-based Samaritan's Purse issued said in a news release on Saturday.
The second person who reportedly tested positive for Ebola is a woman employed by an aid organization in Liberia who is a married mother of two.
In a statement on Sunday, Samaritan's Purse said: "Nancy Writebol is employed by SIM in Liberia and was helping the joint Samaritan's Purse/SIM team that is treating Ebola patients at the Case Management Center in Monrovia."
Writebol's age and hometown have not been released at this time.
What is most disturbing is that the two physicians have contracted the lethal disease despite apparently taking much needed precations to avoid infection as the following photos below demonstrate.
Dr. Kent Brantly assists two ELWA Hospital staff in transporting an Ebola patient from the triage unit to the isolation unit in the rain on Tuesday July 22, 2014, in Liberia.
Dr. Kent Brantly (right) collects a blood sample from a suspected Ebola patient in the ELWA isolation ward in Liberia
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Where was patient zero from?
call over the airport speakers
paging patient zero
please report to the information desk ....
Guinea, which is a fair bit outside its normal range.
Eirik Magnus Larssen’s comment:
Seven down arrows? Did I miss / not getting something here?
I think it was the use of the word "heroes". The word has become misused and the meaning diluted, but not necessarily in this case.
Baised in eirik previous posts I and others are probably of the opinion that he has ulterior motives for the use of the word hero. Eirik worships at the alter of open boarders and multiculturalism and would love to see Europe become the next dark continent. To him every Negro saved is one more replacement for a white man.
There's a lot more people than Eirik who have similar plans for White replacement. The Enemy Within who are waging demographic war on us.
Only the lowest of low-lives would down vote that first comment from Eirik.
"What is most disturbing is that the two physicians have contracted the lethal disease despite apparently taking much needed precations to avoid infection". I was thinking the exact same thing about this. If the doctors and health people are getting infected with all those precautions then what about the other people who aren't taking precautions and what precaustions that may be taken aren't even close to what the health officials are doing. I have a sick sick feeling that this is going to be a pandemic that will get out of africa.
Who are the 11 fuckard sub-humans who could down vote this statement? FU dicktards!
who the fuck are the 14 people junking that sentiment, apart from obvious cunts?
less glamor than on CSI manathan where they kneel in dress suit up like a whore.
I have always wondered how well they dress when inside a containment area - but what happens to the infected clothing, gloves, masks, etc when they come out? How do you partially remove ANY of it without exposing yourself to the rest of the contaminated clothing you are still wearing? Ebola doesn't look like the kind of stuff you kill with a 3 minute dust off when you walk out of the containment area.
Looks like a field hospital to me. "Contaminants everywhere." These folks were/still are playing with fire..."tickling the dragons tail" as it were.
Hopefully in their risk taking they aren't accidentally spreading the virus.
Still no comment from "zee authorities."
They're scrubbed down with bleach and then the gear is burnt so it can never be re-used. The problem is that they can only wear those protective outfits for 15-20 minutes at a time before they overheat, so it's not like they're fully protected at all times.
Positive pressure air flow would extend the wear time. A small air compressor and some rubber tubing up a pant leg kind of jerry rig (no offense to our German members). It's Liberia, you have to innovate.
I got guns, ammo, water, food storage. PMs, out in the country away from the city FSA hordes and here comes a god-damned flesh eating microbe. You just can't win!
They are supposed to get sprayed with bleach before the outer wear is removed. They strip down to their underwear before they put the hazmat on. Lots of that stuff is supposed to be for single use. I wonder if they are following guidelines. A past outbreak of Ebola was spread around by a group of nuns running a clinic who reused single use needles.
Being Africa I'd say a local 'entrepreneur' will sell them off to some unsuspecting dupe.
"What is most disturbing is that the two physicians have contracted the lethal disease despite apparently taking much needed precations to avoid infection as the following photos below demonstrate."
So who's shitting their pants yet? Are they sure its just EBOLA? There might be some truth in this tinfoil thing that other poster posted.
Stop with the "tin foil". You had better believe they have untraceable (to ensure plausible deniability) bio-weapons orders of magnitude worse than Ebola. At the "right" moment they will be released.
Soviet defector Ken Alibek's book "Biohazzard" is an eye opener. The Russians had weaponized dozens of pathogens, tweaking their virulence. They accomplished feats of genetic engneering that the West then thought were impossible.
Lots of water under the bridge, since then. Some expert recently said that it will soon be possible for a clever boy with a million dollars to build his own biological weapon that will wipe human beings from the face of the earth.
Guess who he works for now?
New team jersey, new lifestyle and Dollars instead of Roubles.
The more things change...
well, he's a shark, but he's our shark.
Weird thing, I gather that he's somewhat disabled by allergies, a result of exposure to many pathogens. (I think tularemia was one.) They sent his immune system haywire.
Ebola in Africa, Pneumonic plague in Colorado, Bubonic plague in China. Whatever you want most to do before you die, you'd better do it soon
As in getting right with God, like this guy
Time to shut down air travel to West Africa.
We can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
I am not sure they can control it once it hits a certain momentum...people spread around like fleas:
Haitian Illegal Immigration Through Puerto Rico Is Skyrocketing Toohttp://news.yahoo.com/haitian-illegal-immigration-puerto-rico-skyrocketi...
True enough. Most quarantines are a fool's errand. At best you buy time. Time for the silly thing to burn out, time to find some meds that work, or at least who is most and least at risk. Any or all of that might help, but I'm not optimistic.
This may not be the big one, but the big one is not far away.
"Time to shut down air travel to West Africa."
Why? I'd be more worried about air travel coming from West Africa.
time for TSA to jump in with both hands --- they are the screeners so "lets do your job" TSA heros---save the nation fro the Ebola terror--
Somehow I don't expect much help from the TSA.
No, you're on your own.
Prepare to stay home for three months. If you're lucky, thugs won't break in and steal your food and water.
(Should we be culling our huge thug population in preparation for one nasty future?)
They'll be just as busy being sick and dying as everybody else.
"(Should we be culling our huge thug population in preparation for one nasty future?) "
Culling?! The government is busy importing thousands more.
Someone is getting sloppy here.
Just imagine how bad it could be if someone was trying to weaponize these sort of bugs.... oh wait...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/exclusive-controversial-us-sci...
Send Dr. Yoshihiro Kawaoka's ass back to Japan where he belongs.
Shit Happens, especially when there's money to be made.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baxter_International#2009_Avian_flu_contamination
Baxter International “Unintentionally” Sent Flu Samples to Companies that Contained H5N1 Avian Flu
That shit is for pikers.
I got a joke for ya. How's about monkey viruses (SV40) in the polio vaccine?
How's about a parabolic spike in soft tissue cancers from there on?
Read about Dr. Mary's Monkey....
Remember how Nigeria claimed the guy from Liberia's MoF hadn't come into contact with anyone unaccounted for before collapsing the arrivals hall...
Apparently Juncker's long lost Nigerian cousin has been replaced:
"The victim, who worked for the Liberian government, collapsed at Lagos international airport after arriving on a flight from Monrovia via the Togolese capital Lome on Tuesday, according to the Nigerian government."
https://news.yahoo.com/nigeria-red-alert-first-ebola-death-145622243.html
This is like watching the keystone cops chase OJ through LA...
Togo will be in the news next.
Damn. I thought it would be China...
On zerohedge we are inundated with articles about truly parasitic human beings whose ONLY gauge of success in their life is wealth and power. As the bankers and politicians feed on the remaining carcass of the economy it's good to point the spotlight at the the intelligent people out there making sacrifices to better humanity. I wish them a speedy recovery. What is the bigger disease and threat to mankind, ebola or banking? At least ebola doesn't strutt around as if it's doing you a favour!
The dude is already dead.
Let me know if there is any change in his condition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkWj-jd1ric
Fractional reserve banking is obviously a greater threat to humankind, usually spread and perpetrated by those inhuman among us. It has taken more lives in its history than, Ebola. We seem to be trying to eradicate Ebola, while losing the war (so to speak) to the bankster class.
The banksters will lose I am sure. FRB started as a mean to leverage up the financial world to the industrial world as the industrial revolution started in 1800 but in our days with QE is a thought experiment that has gone horrible wrong. I totally agree to your comment, the wars of the future will be financial ones, but banksters will lose it is in their genetics. I have never seen in my life so many incompetent and untalented people at (investment) banks expecting lots of money just because they are there.
Obviously government is a far greater threat to mankind than fractional reserve banking.
This disaster shows the importance of closing borders.
Signed: an American.
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Huh, nope.... buzzer.... wrong.
Shows the importance of closing borders to non-'americans'.
We, Americans, can go wherever we want because we own the fucking world.
Signed: an American.
Succumbed means died.
I don't think he has died.
Why is her marital status, number of children, age and home town relevant?
So that those that know them but don't know yet that this occurred may pray for a recovery, God willing.
And to move others to do the same, so that they are more than just names.
Crazy stuff. What happens if this stuff makes it to the US or Europe etc. somehow ?
What happens??? Obama will go on some fund raising trips.
lol
When sane Americans demand government contain the outbreak, Barry will claim they are being racist against a disease of African origin.
Obamabola.
And golfing. Don't forget golfing. It's what he does.
And sucks balls, can't golf for shit!
If it happened in the US it would be locked down hard by the CDC. Ebola is actually ironically less of a threat because of its short incubation period. It makes the virus easier to track and quarantine. The only reason it's an issue in Africa is because their healthcare system is garbage and the governments inept in every way.
http://news.yahoo.com/nigeria-screen-airline-travelers-ebola-165545938.html
Its already spread some by flights it looks like.
This shit smokes in any lavatory it wants.
If it has airborne capability, everyone one that plane has it.
In 2-21 days' incubation time, it will have traveled the entire planet.
xenofrog:"If it happened in the US it would be locked down hard by the CDC" could not be more wrong, ever read the history of HIV in San Francisco? it could have been quarantined it was not, why the CDC was unable to do it: it was homophobic. this will spread because it will be racisst to quarantine those who travel from africa.
the in action of CDC in not stopping aids in the early 80's (a viral disease with no cure)..you think they could do so now under this adm with this bought MSM...sorry you could not be more wrong.
The way they eradicated Smallpox was to allow it to kill all that were infected. They isolated the infected and allowed them to die.
That is why the FEMA Camps were set up.
If you get sick you will be going there and your body will be placed into one of those coffins after you succumb. They will remove and isolate you. It is sad but true.
It will be a National Emergency of unimaginable proportion. Just be aware.
Yeah, I was banging my head and crying on that one. Even with a well funded and equipped Public Health, there is no way the spread could be contained. Do the math, Patient Zero on a plane from Africa traveling to the USA. Connecting flights. All the interactions with people. We are talking nightmarish contact numbers. Public Health would be quickly overwhelmed.
If this ever became easily transmissible by aerosol, we are fucked. Those looking for government to help them are self deluded. After having my last 4+ smear TB case get off an international flight and public health telling me they could do nothing because it was a political refugee case, I realized we have crossed the line into pure insanity. What could be possibly the reason? Ebola is not selective whom it kills. Don't these elite idiots realize they will succumb as well?
"Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."
Miffed;-)
Well shit, that was the post I was waiting for...and afraid of.
It's like when you see the Bomb Tech running, you best pound Mutt and Jeff quick and be in front of him.
Great.
My mother worked in the NHS before she retired. In about 2001, just as the whole mass immigration phenomenon started in Britain, an African asylum seeker came into her practice in the North of England with some strange kind of virus that made his eyes bleed. Whatever it was, my mother caught it. She didn't touch him, didn't touch anything he touched, so the transmission had to be respiratory. It aint nice to see your mum's eyes bleed.
And it is only the tip of the iceberg here in Britain.
Incubation is 2 - 21 Days!
Not really.
Let the vector be downtown Manhattan at T = 0.
Track and quarantine that now that the fucker is airborne, and, perhaps you know much better than I, may in fact be a newer, more mutating strain. It appears to still be in the bottle, however, and maybe existing safeguards and awareness can in fact handle it, if its a low enough number of cases, sure.
Admittedly, I'm just paranoid enough to think in terms of worst case. Or wilful "weaponization". CDC would likely not be able to contain it if if it appeared in san diego or queens due to population and travel in and out and interpersonal contacts.
I may be wrong, however.
YOU decide whom you get physically close to.
But if you just must remain PC, then by all means don't change your habits or social programming. Ebola will welcome you also.
Don't worry, I'm sure Rumsfeld will have a cure ready to supply the market.
You are being cynical. That is not approved on ZH.
AspertamerTM
Bible banger posting much too frequently. Rotate this clown out please.
Yup.
Expect no less for a man that stumped to the FDA for a product made of e-coli excrement.
That's Nutrasweet. Enjoy your diet coke.
Africans from all over the continent converging on the White House tomorrow.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-rename-africa-program-nel...
Hope they have Ebola screeners at this event.
Reminds me of what the Eskimo said to the Farley Mowat character in the movie Never Cry Wolf, when he was shown the big bag of wolf shit.
Make sure they shake hands with their hero, and give him a good hug.
DC infected in 5...4....3...2...1...
(Rose Garden)
"I am pleased to announce, with our African partners assembled here, I have assured them we will evacuate as many people as possible from the infected areas in an attempt to save their lives. The USG will be housing them temporarily here in the US."
Kent Brantly had himself succumbed to the deadly virus...
Unless he already died from it that sentence is misleading.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. [/Inigo]
He's not dead. Last update was that he's in quarantine with a high fever and in terrible pain, but still doing work on his laptop.
Still doing work instead of resting? Sounds like he has a death wish.
Or maybe he wants to do what he can to stop this thing. Some people still possess this rare trait called generosity.
+1 many of those truly are the best the usa has to offer
You can't stop anything when you are dead.
Several hundred thousand people die from the disease of aging each day.
Where's all the concern about that?
anuso, you are an idiot, that is all.
In late 2012, Canadian scientists discovered that the deadliest form of the virus could be transmitted by air between species. They managed to prove that the virus was transmitted from pigs to monkeys without any direct contact between them, leading to fears that airborne transmission could be contributing to the wider spread of the disease in parts of Africa. Evidence was also found that pigs might be one of the reservoir hosts for the virus; the fruit bat has long been considered as the reservoir. A 2013 study isolated antibodies from fruit bats in Bangladesh, against Ebola Zaire and Reston viruses, thus identifying potential virus hosts and signs of the filoviruses in Asia.
Spock tells me that the fruit bats also gave it to African pigs. Seems... logical.
Close the borders. Fast. No Pigs allowed.
Signed: an American
5.000.000 FEMA coffins prepared for US ebola outbreak ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI
pray for the world and victims.
All this talk of prayer.
If prayer helped anything, the world would be a very different place.
Knowledge and preparation will do you a lot more good than prayer - GUARANTEED.
Prayer is the most important part of knowlege and preparation.
Evidence, please.
Evidence? I've got all the evidence I need.
There are two ways to get the evidence you are seeking:
1. It starts with faith 'the size of a mustard grain.
With exercise, that faith will eventually grow and grow.
When a man of faith says a prayer, God listens, and if it is in accord with
His will, then it shall be granted.
It's a personal journey of revelation that starts with one small step- putting faith in Jesus Christ.
No one else can provide the evidence but you, personally, on your behalf.
But without first exercising faith and sticking to it, you'll never see the evidence yourself.
"without faith it is impossible to please God, because. Anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek him" - Hebrews 11:6
There exists a second way also:
2. "first of all you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come scoffing and following their own evil desires, they will say where is this coming he promised? ever since our fathers died everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation- but they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men." - 2 Peter 3:3-7
The first way results in Salvation, the second results in destruction.
Either way, each human will have their evidence.
Ah, so some shamans and witch doctors are better than orhers.
Especially the Euro - American variety.
In that case, the difference does not show.
Hard to trade with people when you have nothing to offer them. And when you desesperately need their resources to keep your ponzi scheme going, it turns harder.
The 'american' attitude to trade.
Better send 'american' NGOs over to improve cultivation. That land is better suited to farming the poors, or so I've heard.
The place is already being farmed and extorted by 'americans'.
Places to install new ventures are hard to come by, these days. Globalization, for 'americans', is nearing its end.
The Chinese are over in Africa in droves...
Do not worry too much.
The Chinese Nationals will bring Ebola back to your homeland soon enough...
I pity the Chinese.
Why can't you do all three?
You can do all three.
Just realise that while you are doing the first, you are wasting time on the other two.
You also have to have many prayers.
If too many are off watching the K-Trash or Honey Boob, you do not have enough pray power.
Not true...
What does it say about the prayer of a Righteous man?
Tell me and write it.
God answers all prayers...but sometimes He says "no."
Indeed.
His will be done, not ours.
Then why even pray? lol
Ok, "I'll play". Using your arguments and pure logic...
If God made these nasty viruses (which he's also mutating or allowing to mutate), then his answer is "No" a very predictable 90% of the time, right? No matter how decent or evil its host is. In that case, He doesn't seem like a conscious, caring "personal" God to me. More like a big picture kind of "Darwinian God", aka "Mother Nature", than an alleged "personal God".
Friend, "The beginning of wisdom is to give up all illusions and pretenses. Whether self-imposed or imposed by others."
You may also be happier and freer in your mind and spirit, if you have no deity's ass to kiss -- as susceptibility to falling in line with a hierarchical organization is directly proportional to one's willingness to subscribe to the ultimate "boss". Can't speak for you, but I'm much happier with my new boss (Mother Nature) than my old boss (God).
It is true that God created everything, and at the moment he created everything, everything was perfect.
Then came Satan's fall, his demonic followers fall, Adam and Eve's fall from perfection- because they exercised their free will to disobey God.
Mind you, God warned them beforehand what would happen should they disobey.
As a result of this disobedience, they brought upon their descendants a slide into imperfection, and through adaptation (micro-evolution), all life forms on Earth thence forth veered from their original purpose.
Over millennia, this problem continues to worsen- bacteria, viruses, yeasts, fungi, prions, etc continue to wreak havoc on man and animal and plant life in greater and greater measure.
But God has a plan. He sent His only begotten Son to serve as a ransom sacrifice to buy back what Adam threw away.
All that is required is faith in Jesus Christ to have your sins paid for, then you can be a child of God, not by your righteousness, but by your faith which God counts as righteousness.
God has the power to take and to give, so no matter what one dies from, or when, God can grant life to that person again. Eternal life.
In the meantime, no, there is no high likelihood that God will not answer a prayer provided it is his will, and the longer one knows God, the more discerning one becomes regarding his will.
"The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom" is what the Proverb says. Yet note it is only the beginning of Wisdom. True wisdom comes from the love of God, which develops through faith in him.
As far as your comment regarding hierarchy, the Bible teaches that only Jesus Christ is mediator between God and man- not church, priest, pastor, denomination (franchise), etc. So not much of a hierarchy (3 levels) so to speak, a person relationship with the Son of God.
Now I believe I have given you a reasonable reply, so I shall briefly comment on some of your expressions.
"Mother Nature" whether you consider "her" nameless, Gaia, or whatever, is simply a pagan goddess- a false goddess with no power of revelation or redemption, no knowledge, no wisdom, no consciousness.
Atheism is just another belief system that substitutes "no god" in theory, but any number of gods in practice (that which the individual atheist places their greatest efforts on, be it science, politics, wealth creation, power, etc).
Whether you choose to believe in aliens from outer space rather than a God who has clearly revealed himself is your call -free will.
But do remember that there will be a reckoning for those who reject him.
And eternal life for all those who put faith in him.
Those teachings sound strikingly similar to those of His Noodliness. He too promises a day of reckoning for those who reject Him. What a dilemma.
Nope. All of this is bullshit you decided to believe and your ego clings to because you fear Uncertainty.
One day, if we survive, Human Consciousness will evolve past this fear of doubt, and of the unknown.
Actually it would be much easier to be an atheist...for me.
I fear the certainty of God, and His wrath at the end, and haven't any fear of the uncertainties of this temporal life.
You can bet on the infinitesimal Mathematical Odds that there is not a God if you want.
In a sense I respect the atheist as they have much more faith than I.
However it is a real bummer for me to know that there is a God.
I would have blown up the West Coast Oil Refineries and Oil Tank Farms long ago, and subsequently starved out the Western USA, if I knew that there was not a God and had no eternal retribution. I have well over 800,000 reasons for doing so.
And you are all guilty of complicity, to one degree or another. No. Not one of you are innocent of that rape as you allow it to continue.
I like what the banks, and YOUR Government, has done to me so much that I figure that it would be a just retribution. And if you do not believe that I am intellectually and materially equipped for that then you are mistaken.
(You have already tempted me to demonstrate it. I fantasize and ruminate about causing mass destruction continually. I am that enraged.)
I can design weapons with ease. It is far much easier to destroy than it is to create. It is much simpler than you may think.
But, unfortunately for me, the same Physics and Mathematics which I know that allows me this capability is the same Physics and Mathematics that demostrates the existence of God as a certainty.
And since He declares that vengenance is His, and His alone, I am paralyzed to act to destroy you.
It is like a kid being shown a bunch of candy and, following that, the kid is told that he cannot have it. I am gifted with all of the information and education...and then I cannot use it to destroy the enemy?
(I am still working on that "forgiveness" aspect...That is really difficult.)
And Kirk2NGC1701...You are right about that about Christians...That is what stops us.
And I am sorry that it pisses you off.
Kirk, for me, the most intriguing exegesis of Judeo-Christian theology is the Book of Job. Even after Job's trials and tribulations, God supplies no answers for the actions He imposes or fails to impose upon us.
I am well-versed in Buddhism and strive to see reality for what it is rather than what I wish it to be. And I believe in God. There simply has to be more to this Life than mere consumption. As a Jewish philospher (pehaps Heschel?) once stated, "Even if there isn't a God, there should be."
Prayers exist to keep us in the moment and appreciate what we have--similar to Buddhism's Be Here Now. I've been grateful for everything that has happened in my life, good and bad and strive to make a positive difference in others' lives because what else is there to do?
And if you're happy with Mother Gaia as your boss, I'm happy for you.
If you do not believe it then I will respect that as I understand that you have not experienced it. (I have.)
But whom does it harm if others believe in the power of prayer?
Does it harm you?
This is like the 1980's Ethiopian famine, everyone dumped funding, resources and aid there, then 20+ year later when the Ethiopian population had DOUBLED, there were twice as many people suffering another round of famine and disease with even more pressure on their ecology. The save the world cult managed to double the suffering.
Absolutely right. Pathological altruism not only drains resources from one's own people it actually increases suffering.
Also destroys local markets.
War --> International food aid (AKA Dumping) --> Country --> local farmers can't compete with free --> unemployed farmers & reduced crop production --> food shortages & famine --> political unrest --> War
Yup, besides wars and financing both sides, Banksters love Pathological Altruism. Two sides of the same fiat coin.
wwdd
What Would Darwin Do
Flush the gene pool.
wwdd...
How about wddd? i.e. What did Darwin do?
Answer: He Died.
70-80 orbits remain the average human span with / without Ebola. Even if it were to be dramatically reduced, (or extended), Christianity's virtue is in offering a glimpse of the eternality of life beyond our earthly endeavors. The “72 virgin” goal is a mockery of the seriousness, urgency and solemnity of preparing a soul for the accounting every person will one day face.
This is also the reason the separation between state and church should be actively pursued, the state can make no such promises for persons to avoid the wrath of God while simultaneously enjoying His favor.
Jmo.
Was great for the East African Pirate & Warlord sector....
Well. It was...don't shoot the messenger.
As soon as I saw the JGP, I thought: "Bible thumper".
If these "well meaning" fucks would stay at home -- Charity begins at HOME, MFers! -- than we would not have the many problems that we have in the world. It is OUTSIDE MEDDLING (to gain market share for their ideology/worldview) that's screwing most of the planet, rather than letting the local/regional ecosystem and populace take care of their own turf.
The PRIME DIRECTIVE isn't just a topic for Star Trek, you know.
You forgot to say 'Kirk Out' but you are mostly correct.
Facinating!
The Christians home is the whole world...took me long time to realize that.
I may be temporarily in this World but I am not of this World. I belong to the Kingdom of God.
Home is where the heart resides. When it is time to go home then I will.
You can choose the entire World if you desire it. You can claim it as home. You can claim it as your kingdom.
But even Jesus rejected that offer.
White do gooders. Even as they lay dieing in their own fluids and have opened the door to millions others suffering the same fate - they will still have no regrets.
If they want to go play white feel good about yourself by helping the poor black babies - go right ahead.
But don't expect my tax dollars to pay for Delta Force raids to come rescue your dumb ass when you get taken hostage, and don't ask for my gratitude when you go help spread a disease in the name of serving the suffering.
I know my fair share of Christains that get financial assistance from the Church to go on "mission trips" (ie vacations they could never afford) to countries such as Costa Rica, Zambia, etc.
They get to sing songs, help build an out house for a poor brown kid, and see some sights - all at a reduced rate in a supervised environment.
I have very little respect for such "mission work". Spare me.
you forgot the religious trips to the "wailing wall" surely its worthwhile to pay for congressional junkets there with "tax dollars"??
Good grief what a bunch of heartless pricks here. It's obvious to me many of you care about me, myself and I. Good luck with that when you are held accountable.
If I can't take care of myself, then I'm of no use to anybody else.
(and I do like to be useful - especially to those I love)
Personally, I think we learn more about ourselves from Gerry Anderson than Gene Roddenberry....
But, seriously, "the qualities of mercy are not strained" - if a person feels a calling to be charitable with his wealth and talents half way around the world instead of down the block, what the F is it to you? Just wish him well and let hi go.
Jeeze, glad I don't worry about clearing your hurdles, Capt Jerk.
maybe, maybe not, but you notice how its always Christian groups, basically never Muslim or Jewish ones?
in any event, I don't think the problem is giving them fish, it's not teaching them to fish so the same shit doesn't happen again... and a big part of teaching them to fish may be free condoms, and vasectomies and tubal ligations.
Surely, part of the responsibility is on people having kids in such marginally sustainable places. Latin America included.
Fortunately, an answer for that global region is to go north and have their fecundity subsidized...
sigh.
Is that you, Bill Gates?
Surely, part of the responsibility is on people having kids in such marginally sustainable places.
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Marginally sustainable places?
'American' nations are the marginally sustainable places. For 'american' nations, globalization is nearing its end. Decline in inputs mean that the environment is on the road to depletion of resources.
'American' nations are the places where overpopulation is happening. Their durability is mainly based on the efficiency of their business of extorting the weak, farming the poor.
'American' nations are the nations running on a thin margin.
Wow! You're right there are no Christian charities in America, Japan, Syria (not any more), Russia, China, Iraq (oops not anymore), Latin America, Canada or Europe.
Why these "Christians" are in Africa trying to "help" is beyond me. People should not try to help others. It's just silly!
You know what else is bad too is that those online MD referral sites, like Healthgrades and Vitals, still show the doctors practicing in the US like they never left. This is one of my projects to either get those folks to update or quit.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/07/texas-doctor-working-with-ebola.html
It looks like 10% of the official deaths so far are healthcare workers, and 5% of the official infections so far are healthcare workers.
So there is a third option in addition to updating or quitting...
An Ebola break-out right now? How convinient!
Obama has been looking for the cure on every golf course in America. The cure still eludes him.
As does an on-par score - on or off the links.
Where exactly is the decontaminated area? Is it miles away, the next town over or a flight to a neighboring country. How do we know the safe area is safe, people not dying, small attachable monitor pins ??
If suits are worn effectively for only 20 - 30 min. how effective are the precautions and safeguards?
Seems to me we have just scratched the surface of the problem here, and it is most likely about to become either a much bigger issue, or one that is more efficiently covered up.
My guess is the latter.
Hard to hide large numbers of people bleeding to death internally.
More likely (never let a good crisis go to waste) to be used to reduce peoples freedoms even more than they've already been reduced.
Hard to hide large numbers of people bleeding to death internally.
In this new age nothing much is surprising anymore, It will be covered up if it suits their purpose. However, your suggestion they could further limit our freedoms is a very valid view.
In the military we were told that in the event of biological weapon use the lowest ranking airman would be the guina pig to judge survivability outside the safe zone. Maybe in this case they use dogs or hyenas or maybe a scrappy local who was overdue on rent.
I thought shitting blood was just another one of those possible side effects from taking one of the more popular pharmas advertised on TV. Nothing to worry about, go about your regular business...and don't forget to pay your taxes.
Actually for the survivors, yes there will be those whom survive, they will have much more freedom than they have ever experienced as there will not be much of a Government left...or anything else. (Ninety percent casualies expected???)
Of course when all of those unmanned Nuke Reactors meltdown due to lack of trained staff, the pressurized poisonous gas tanks exploding due to lack of refrigeration, and the total loss of the power grid, life is going to be pretty fucking dismal at best.
You will be free. You will be free to wallow in the muck and mire, the toxic wasteland, with lack of food and modern conveniences.
I am not so sure that I want to survive it.
We don't know the quality of the protective gear they are using. One small tear or pinhole to allow contaminated fluids in is all that's needed. They are also out in the jungle, rough on any gear.