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US-Israeli Relationship In Jeopardy, Kerry "Ruined Everything"

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Another red line crossed? As AP reports, Obama administration officials were fuming Monday over a torrent of Israeli criticism of Secretary of State John Kerry's latest bid to secure a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. Israeli media commentators have leveled almost nonstop criticism at Kerry in recent days over his attempts to bring Qatar and Turkey — two countries viewed by Israel as strong Hamas supporters — into the cease-fire negotiations - "U.S. Secretary of State of State John Kerry ruined everything." The White House is not happy - in unusually harsh language, officials said the criticism of Kerry could put the relationship between the U.S. and Israel in jeopardy. They also said the personal attacks on Kerry crossed a line.

 

As AP reports,

Obama administration officials were fuming Monday over a torrent of Israeli criticism of Secretary of State John Kerry's latest bid to secure a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.

 

In unusually harsh language, officials said the criticism of Kerry could put the relationship between the U.S. and Israel in jeopardy. They also said the personal attacks on Kerry crossed a line and were particularly disappointing at a time of active conflict.

 

Israeli media commentators have leveled almost nonstop criticism at Kerry in recent days over his attempts to bring Qatar and Turkey — two countries viewed by Israel as strong Hamas supporters — into the cease-fire negotiations. Kerry was also being accused of abandoning some of Israel's key demands during the negotiations.

 

In trying to implement the cease-fire over the weekend, "U.S. Secretary of State of State John Kerry ruined everything," wrote columnist Ari Shavit in Monday's Haaretz, Israel's leading liberal newspaper. "Very senior officials in Jerusalem described the proposal that Kerry put on the table as a 'strategic terrorist attack'."

 

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U.S. frustration with Israel seeped into the White House's readout of a phone call Sunday between President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The White House said Obama told Netanyahu that the U.S. had "serious and growing concern" about the worsening humanitarian situation in Gaza. He also called to an "immediate, unconditional humanitarian cease-fire," according to the White House.

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Is there anyone in the world who is not mocking John Kerry?

 

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Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013513 Frostfan1
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The Israelis tried to accept a ceasefire and all they got was Hamas telling them "no and by  the way, you're weak for wanting one".

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:14 | 5013608 Winston Churchill
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Bollocks. The Israelis were going to continue search and destroy missions

under their version of a ceasefire.

Is that the new definition of ceasefire ?

You stop, and we carry on.Seems to be catching on.ie Ukraine.

Paid trolls are so pathetic.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:01 | 5013836 Frostfan1
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Sorry if you don't like the actual events as they happened but Israel accepted the Egypt ceasefire and Hamas didn't.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:32 | 5014021 chubbar
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Yeah, and Israel just blew up 9 more kid

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:22 | 5014313 Winston Churchill
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Strange, how many Egyptians have been killed again ?

They are not a party to these hostilities, maybe we should get the Latvians to

agree as well. It makes as much sense,fucking troll.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:36 | 5014373 Calmyourself
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wha's really pissy is Egypt blowing up hamas tunnels, why would Egypt help Israel?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:35 | 5014370 Calmyourself
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link....

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013525 SemperFudge
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Exactly. Criticize Kerry while taking his billions in aid anyway. How long can this silly little Zionist project work anyway?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5013626 john39
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just long enough to get WWIII going...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:41 | 5013741 JLee2027
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Which Israel would win, as the Bible says, they will never be defeated. So, you'd better hope not.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:49 | 5013773 john39
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so what happened in the 33 day war a few years ago?  ignorning that the bible was something they put together, and thus one would suspect at least a little bias...  i don't think your claim even stacks up based on that biased source...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:21 | 5013960 JLee2027
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Before you critize the book you never read, try reading it. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:33 | 5014031 Quus Ant
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have you read the Quran? 

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:00 | 5014198 JLee2027
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Why are you replying to me? Was I talking to you?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:21 | 5014295 Quus Ant
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I'll take that as a no.

 

This is a message board not an intimate dinner for two.  But you do look lovely tonight.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:31 | 5014354 JLee2027
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Obviously it was a mistake to give you the attention you crave. I won't make that mistake again.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:00 | 5014460 Quus Ant
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Your mistake was stepping in your own poo. 

Happens to the best of us, brother.  Wipe your shoe and move on.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:29 | 5014003 Dublinmick
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A British born Jew emporer called Constantine wrote the bible after murdering the Vedic priest in the

Vatican. It is not a precise road map.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:51 | 5014147 IndyPat
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Heretic.

:)

+1

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:22 | 5013663 Chupacabra-322
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The Zionist Elephant In The Room

The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it’s time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.
It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called ‘anti-Semitic’ if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That’s understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what’s going on here.

Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at ‘manipulating Jews’, but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.

Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama’s vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television ‘I’m a Zionist’. If, as Biden rightly says, you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can’t. It’s just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the ‘you’re a racist’ card can be played over and over.
Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:

‘The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.
They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem — but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

Let’s get this straight. Zionism doesn’t give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary – just like the rest of the human population.

The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.

After the war the Rothschilds used public sympathy for Jewish people targeted by the Nazis to press for a homeland in Palestine. This was the alleged reason for the founding of Zionism, but that is only part of it.
The campaign to impose a Rothschild fiefdom in Palestine goes back at least to the earlier part of the 19th century and probably long before. It was given a massive boost with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour declared in a letter his government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
This letter was sent by Balfour, an inner-circle member of an elite secret society called the Round Table, to Baron (Walter) Rothschild who funded the Round Table.

Today, Rothschild Illuminati fronts like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and others, still answer to the Round Table which string-pulls and coordinates from the shadows. This is why Zionists in government are invariably connected with these Rothschild-controlled organisations.

The Rothschilds funded the early settlers from Europe to relocate in post-war Palestine and they also funded and armed the terrorist groups, like Irgun, which bombed and terrorised Israel into existence in 1948, a campaign which forced 800,000 Palestinians to leave the land of their birth.
Israel is simply the State of Rothschild and how appropriate that they paid for the construction of the Israeli parliament building, the Knesset, and the Israel Supreme Court. The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield ‘Star of David’ symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt .

Political Zionism:

The social movement which creates and sustains the physical nation of Isreal. The driver for World Government through Isreal in the tradition of the Heretical Frankist Jews.

This definition is embodied by The Rothschild family.

Not all Jews are political Zionists. Not all political Zionists are Jews.
The political Zionist movement feeds off Jews in the sameway the the Nazi movement feed off the Germans.

Political Zionism is the greatest enemy of the Jews.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:30 | 5014009 Dublinmick
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I only needed to read the first paragraph and I was on board.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:03 | 5014207 JLee2027
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But the Bible is bad?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:38 | 5014380 NemoDeNovo
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The 'bible' is an interesting book of allegories and moral tales that is interesting to reference.  BUt is ti the 'word' of god?  Meh don't really think so as it was written by men, not the big guy himself.  Can you prove the bible is the word of god?  in 40+ yrs on this rock I have yet to meet anyone that can PROVE the bible is real and/or the word of god.  Most at best can only say that they beLIEve it is so, but your beLIEf is not proof or actual fact, so for me and for me ONLY, until I have proof or god himself corrects me I will remain skeptical of the authenticity.....

 

But YMMV

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:05 | 5014492 JLee2027
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Can you prove the bible is the word of god?

That's the wrong approach. First, try proving it's not. It's pretty simple with every other book, they have errors, no book is perfect. Find the errors in the properly translated Bible. You can't. No errors in archaeology, geology, history, biology, morality, etc. Second, the Bible has successfully foretold the future, the Dead Sea Scrolls found in 1948 revealed that. Therefore, a man of logic and reason, can only conclude it is the inerrant Word of GOD.

If you truly require more than that, then all hope is lost for you. Because Jesus isn't going to walk into your kitchen and announce himself.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:25 | 5014323 Monty Burns
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Why do you think the Rothschilds wanted to creat Israel?  (Not a rhetorical question).

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:11 | 5014544 JLee2027
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Why do you think the Rothschilds did it? Satan tried to stop the creation of Israel in 1948 by the Holocaust. The re-establishment of Israel was foretold thousands of years ago in the Bible as a sign of the coming End Times. So, it was hardly some secret conspiracy.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:57 | 5013478 HedgeHammer
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Kerry did exactly as he was supposed to do!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:54 | 5013482 U4 eee aaa
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There you go folks, Kerry broke the Middle East!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:02 | 5013541 _ConanTheLibert...
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but Al Gore invented the internet

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:01 | 5013487 Quus Ant
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bad cop / worst cop.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:55 | 5013488 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: Kerry "Ruined Everything"

If ONLY that could be true.  

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:56 | 5013495 buzzsaw99
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I support the president and his administration in this wholeheatedly. Screw Izreel. Stop sending them weapons and money asap.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5013632 NoDebt
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Whoah, whoah, whoah.  Who said anything about turning off the miliatary and monetary aid to Israel?  They're just a little pissed at eachother.  The spice will still flow.  Of that you need not have any doubt.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:35 | 5013727 BigJim
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I'm pretty sure that's some anti-semitism right there, buzz.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:40 | 5014386 NemoDeNovo
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#FREEFrancisSawyer

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:42 | 5015853 PrintemDano
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Obama, your President is the purest form of evil on the planet.  He should NEVER EVER be supported.  Fk him, and all the evil he stands for.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:57 | 5013496 Frostfan1
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Kerry and Obama want to treat Hamas terrorists as equal to Israel.  You can hate Israel and definitely criticize Israeli actions but coming up with plans to reward Hamas for hiding behind women and children and shooting rockets from hospitals and schoolyards or building concrete tunnels to kill Israelis is fucking nuts.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:11 | 5013587 Duffy
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Who's worse - the guy who fires a rocket that won't kill anyone 98% from a hospital roof, or the guy who decides that justifies blowing up a fucking hospital - all during a conflict that began with ethnic cleansing and colonization and apartheid construction and decades of illegal, often brutal occupation, and most recently, a cycle of violence and rocket fire which was started by the side that's bombing the hospitals?

http://scotthorton.org/interviews/2014/07/20/072014-max-blumenthal/

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-isra...

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...

The recent violence was deliberately planned by Israel, the kidnappings offering a mere pretext for a pre-existing plan to kill more Ay-rabs for daring to sporadically resist Israel's frequent ceasefire violations [airstrikes followed the kidnappings, which Hamas likely did not do, and rockets followed the airstrikes, which had killed around a dozen Palestinians, mostly civilians, not that ****nothing*** will make you zionist pukes stop framing the matter as Hamas rockets engendering violence because of a heavily Zio media and media bias. Fucking despicable liars - and you DARE go around crying anti-semite as you justify the murder of hundreds of kids? Kids whose proximate ancestors were expelled within living memory by Jews who had lived in europe for 1200+ years?  Who claim to be chosen by god and/or have more right to "return" to LAND THEY NEVER SET FOOT IN than the Arabs kicked out 2 generations ago and denied the chance to return because they aren't "Jews"?]

 

go fuck yourself.

And expand your fucking reading list.  Your Israeli taking points grow nauseating. Your excuses for murdering a civlian population kicked out of their homeland by the very people bombing them from advanced fighter jets and naval vessels to "defend" against hom-made unguided rockets generally fired in fucking RESPONSE to Israel bombing an apartment building, killing untermenschen natives to get a "terrorist"  -perhaps even one who just signed a ceasfire agreement.

Cunt.

 

People should hate Israel's insane, racist, apartheid, rogue nuclear, spying cunt government and cunt rabbinical leaders more

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:15 | 5013619 BandGap
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The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Choose not to play.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:32 | 5013713 Herd Redirectio...
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The Israelis are upset because it costs $20,000+ every time Iron Dome shoots down a 'rocket'.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:51 | 5013784 john39
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yeah but, the american taxpayer picks up the cost.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:04 | 5013860 alien-IQ
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and pays compound interest

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:27 | 5013682 Hannibal
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Well said Duffy.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:34 | 5013724 Canucklehead
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Go back and re-read Duffy's comment.  That commentator is out to make his/her supporters look like idiots.  Can't you see the trend?  Don't you know when you are being played?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:32 | 5014026 Duffy
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I'm out to show how swiftly you ziotrolls descend on a comment for which you have no sensible rejoinder at all, fucknuts.

Thanks for playing. 

You pathetic half-wits are the best advertisement of all for the depravity, ignorance and hypocrisy of your positions.

The pity is how few people are able to see through your insipid rhetorical legerdemain to your racialism, anti-humanism, and pathological disregard for either truth or virtue.

An nescis, mi fili, quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:17 | 5014291 Canucklehead
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Nobody likes you.  Speak to the hand.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:42 | 5014397 NemoDeNovo
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That was mature

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:03 | 5014500 Canucklehead
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Well he started it, with that latin quote from the 30 years war....

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:46 | 5014411 Oldwood
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When did fight club become slur club? Some people appear to go to great lengths to make their case and others seem much more comfortable disparaging and calling names when their cut and paste lose impact. And we wonder why people just can't get along.

In order for a civilization to exist, for a society to prosper, the primary requirement is mutual respect. When you cannot strongly, but still respectfully disagree, the argument is lost. Given some of these threads get pretty damned long it would be really great if we could just absorb differing points of view without having to judge as to whether the contributor is simply looking for an opportunity to spew shit on everyone.

Lots of people are disparaged because they seem disinterested or otherwise unaware of current events, but who in their fucking mind would ever want to enter into a discussion with some of the assholes on this board. Keep it up and you can have it all to yourselves.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:49 | 5013770 shovelhead
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That's right Duff.

Those all day every day Hamas rockets are HAPPY ROCKETS.

Israel rockets, when they return em, are Unhappy Rockets.

Make sure you hide behind a school full of kids when you fire your happy rockets.

The funny thing is if the happy rockets stopped coming so would the unhappy rockets too.

But I don't think that's the Hamas plan, is it?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:08 | 5013882 Frostfan1
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Exactly. I didn't realize that Hamas was such a nice sweet group of guys that they only want 2 per cent of their missiles to do damage so ya know, the Israelis don't really need to find cover cuz sweet cuddly Hamas isn't really trying to hurt them.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:39 | 5014070 Duffy
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Hey shovel - I know you're a fucking racist, and fairly dumb to begin with, but your position looks especially inane here because it means you didn't even skim the links, in a post where I specifically, anticipating this, wrote:

 

airstrikes followed the kidnappings, which Hamas likely did not do, and rockets followed the airstrikes, which had killed around a dozen Palestinians, mostly civilians, not that ****nothing*** will make you zionist pukes stop framing the matter as Hamas rockets engendering violence

 

I take no pleasure in letting you fucking idiots prove my point.  I knew you would.  All you do is regurgitate the same fucking hasbara nonsense, with no regard to anything appearing in a post specifically addressing both the fact the rockets did not "cause" this round of violence and that no matter how much evidence is provided, you and your fellow fucking puke zio trolls would continue to shovel the same shit.

You're a fucking disgrace - you're not even a human being.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:07 | 5014523 Oldwood
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You are incapable of utilizing a rational mind because of your absolute hate of Israel. Do you have any other significant point other than anyone who disagrees with you is an:

You're a fucking disgrace - you're not even a human being.

you fucking idiots

you zionist pukes

fucking racist

Just to review your most recent post. Are you this big an asshole in person or do you just find the anonymous internet ultimately liberating? The voice of reason?...not.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:39 | 5013739 BigJim
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We await FrostFan (and all the other Hasbara who do us the honour of visiting all the way from Tel Aviv) to mount a strong, well-reasoned and irrefutable rebuttal.

*crickets*

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:24 | 5013972 Frostfan1
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How about I don't really need to respond at length to a poster that calls me a cunt and has already decided without proof that Israel caused the hospital deaths today?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:45 | 5014117 IndyPat
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so you promise to stop responding if we all call you cunt?

Fair enough.

Thou art a cunt, and offensive in my sight.

Be gone.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:57 | 5014180 BigJim
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 How about I don't really need to respond at length to a poster that calls me a cunt

Riiiiight... cuz YOUR postings are just EVER so respectful.

So, that's it? That's the best you can do?

As usual, you Zionists just turn to smoke when exposed to a bit of sunlight.

Fucking vampire.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:04 | 5013855 Frostfan1
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Yawn and you call everyone who disagrees with you a cunt. It's just not that special.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 21:31 | 5015508 eatapeach
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I'm a little late to the game, cunt.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:18 | 5013944 Matt
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Ethnic cleansing? There are 10 times as many Palestinians as there was in 1948 under British occupation.

Besides, if someone declares war on you and you defeat them, do they get any punishment? Is there any consequence for initiating a war and then losing? Or should people just forgive and forget, and keep getting attacked over and over?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:54 | 5014164 IndyPat
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They are working on it, Brah.

Send moar armz pleaz.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:05 | 5014220 BigJim
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 Besides, if someone declares war on you and you defeat them, do they get any punishment? Is there any consequence for initiating a war and then losing? Or should people just forgive and forget, and keep getting attacked over and over?

Lulz. I think you'll find it was the Zionists who declared war on the indigenous Palestinians, by stealing their land for their racial-supremacist 'Jews-only' colonial project. And what, you're saying there are 7.1 million Palestinians living in Israel? Because that would be ten times the number that fled the murderous Zionist army back in 1948.

Lying cunt.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:26 | 5014616 Matt
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Please show land ownership in Palestine Territory under British occupation. Half the population were Jews and half Palestinians. There are now 5 million of each.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5015865 PrintemDano
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The guy shooting from the hospital is worse.  He knows the hospital will be blown up but shoots anyway.  Why don't your wonderful muslims fire  from  somewhere that isn't surrounded by sick people or children?  Answer that honestly and you'll awaken from your foolish daze.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:19 | 5013625 Quus Ant
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C'mon, now.  Isn't it obvious Kerry proffered a deal tailored for Zionists refussal?  Wasn't this same America the lone vote against a UN investigation into war crimes?   And suddenly we aren't talking about dying Palestinian children... we're talking about damned politics. 

And the bomb goes on.....

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 18:16 | 5014826 tvdog
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Kerry offered the same deal Israel made in 2012. They didn't keep their end of it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:21 | 5013654 SemperFudge
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If the roles were reversed and Hamas were to receive billions in US foreign aid, Israelis would employ the exact same tactics, while Hamas would employ the more "traditional" genocidal military policies.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:32 | 5014020 Dublinmick
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Palestinians are not equal to isreal, they are better than isreal, they are humans.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:15 | 5014435 Oldwood
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That willing sacrifice their people, willing or not, to be bombed into oblivion by deliberately firing useless rockets at Israel, KNOWING exactly how Israel will respond. Human...you bet.

There is always a lot to be said for principles, but I think wisdom would tell us to choose our battles wisely.

Speaking of which, why are so few Americans not sniping government officials and bombing courthouses like Bill Ayers? There is a principled hero for you!

Palestinians are willing to have thousands of their brothers and sisters killed to gain independence for a Palestinian State (which will likely be quickly absorbed into the Muslim State Caliphate before long anyway). It is kind of a shame that the Hamas leaders fly away in their private jet before the killing begins.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:58 | 5013501 flash338
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I'm sick and tired of hearing about Israel all the time. It's a tiny country. What do we get out of this "relationship" anyway.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013510 buzzsaw99
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we get fucked, that's what "we" get

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013518 somecallmetimmah
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A 'living' weapons test range?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013519 swass
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A puppet.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:32 | 5013705 forexskin
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a puppetmaster ZOG

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:03 | 5013545 CCanuck
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We get to pay for it!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:16 | 5013620 piratepiet
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"It's a tiny country"

You really don't get it, do you ?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:21 | 5013659 Colonel Klink
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Spied on, controlled, and all of our intelligence information forwarded.  What's not to love?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:29 | 5014005 Frostfan1
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Then why do you follow?  There's more stories out there on the Kardashians or Beyonce/Jay Z and I have about 200 or more stations on my TV of which most don't give a damn about what's happeing in Israel?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:58 | 5013502 SemperFudge
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Honestly, Israel can go fuck itself. If they don't like our diplomacy maybe they should stop accepting our billions of dollars in aid. Seems like they're more than happy to take our money in the meantime though, doesn't it?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:04 | 5013548 Rockfish
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AID = payoff $$ 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:06 | 5013557 freedogger
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But then how would the congress critters put food on the table?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:06 | 5013561 Theta_Burn
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Those Billions will never stop, in fact .gov only has to rubber stamp the extra $300mil or so to replace "Iron Dome" munitions they used so far.

For a cool Billion more this will all go away, its all BS, its just a diversion. not taking away from the fact that Kerry is a fucking idiot, they need the global confusion level a bit higher so when it all pops, the reasons why we are were we are won't stick to the guilty parties...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:54 | 5014451 Oldwood
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Yes, American doesn't really need any friends anyhow. We always have Al qaeda.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:57 | 5013504 Caveman93
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Defined:

The Peter Principle is the principle that "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence". ~ See John K3rry

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:57 | 5013505 Duffy
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no problem -

 

Let's stop sending them hundreds of billions every few weeks, that's all. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5013592 Duffy
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Israel Focuses Anti-Ceasefire Rage on Kerry

These cunts are unbelievable.

 

Do they ever wonder, alone, late at night -  "could it be something we're doing?" Or, when you think God chose you, a god that demands foreskin in his contract for a deed to land he couldn't give good title to - fucking twice - do you maybe lack the kind of insight other human beings develop naturally?  I'm asking seriously.   These people, Netanyahu, who is a fucking moderate in his party, aren't just run of the mill nationalists - they're Jewish Supremacists, as are, apparently, a fair number of the rabbis in their government.

The Causes of Hostility Toward Jews: A Historical Overview

 

Iudea Delendum Est.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:49 | 5015887 PrintemDano
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I detest Israel.  Remember the Liberty!

I detest muslims more, go Israel!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:46 | 5013757 piratepiet
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hundreds of billions every few weeks, that 's laughable.  Please provide your countrymen with the real numbers as not to dodge a real debate.  You could be playing such an obvious straw man to deliberately undercut your own arguments and thus effectively argue the other side.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:31 | 5014016 L Bean
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It's called hyperbole, dummy. High school debate class is down the hall.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:59 | 5014192 piratepiet
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Thanks smarty, so I learned something new.  My argument stands nevertheless.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:33 | 5014027 Frostfan1
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So on an annual basis that's a couple of trillion dollars a year.  Let's just agree you're raving hysterical about the subject and that truth and/or accuracy doesn't matter.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:41 | 5014090 Duffy
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typo, fucknuts - couple rounds of 3 or 4 hundo million.

You claiming someone else doesn't care about the facts is the apex of irony.  funny how you seized on that, and not the fact Israel is a fucking parasite on a once great country, infiltrated and hijacked by your cunt fellow zios.

for the moment.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:58 | 5013515 F0ster
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Hey Isreal, good luck with Iran after you've finished ethnically cleansing Gaza. You better get your Global Zionist thinking caps on for another vile/obvious false flag. The vast majority of war in the world since Zionist were given Isreal has been to maintain this corrupt state and enable it to illegally consume it's neighbors. It's only a matter of time until you bring a mushroom cloud in Tel Aviv upon yourselves... 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:05 | 5013555 somecallmetimmah
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Ja, woll, Herr F0ster!  Wir sieg heilen Sie!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:19 | 5013641 Duffy
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The only people here dumb enough to think that criticizing Israel for acting like NAZIS is itself NAZI-like are NAZIs like you.

 

Get some new material, cunt.  Quick, before the body count gets to 2,000 women and children killed by this Zionism decent people can not criticize.

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:32 | 5013706 Canucklehead
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Relax.  The Sweets salesmen in Gaza are having the time of their lives.  It's all good.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:44 | 5014106 Duffy
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Yawn.

 

Cookie?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:38 | 5014067 Frostfan1
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A guy who uses cunt in every comment telling someone else to get some new material.  SMH.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 15:58 | 5014184 IndyPat
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pussy.

Is that better?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5013630 andrewp111
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I wish they would cleanse Gaza and get it over with. All that will really happen is more shooting, another cease-fire, and then another war in 2 or 3 years time.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 13:59 | 5013523 Frostfan1
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I knew I could count on Zerohedge commenters for telling me John Kerry represents the will of the people.  Thanks guys!!!!!!!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:06 | 5013559 SemperFudge
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This is all just theater. US gives more money in aid to Israel than any other country. This is just a Zionist shakedown for more military support. They're exploiting the fact that America's liberal-leaning politicians are more sympathetic to the Palestinians by saying America's democratic politicians support terrorism, etc. It's pathetic.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:12 | 5013591 i_call_you_my_base
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You get a downvote for thinking that anyone here would argue that the US government carries out "the will of the people." Even when they do something postive, it either has an ulterior motive or is a mistake.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:00 | 5013527 Rockfish
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It is easy to say Kerry ruined everything and maybe he did. But i believe it would not matter who was SSOTUS OR POTUS things would not be better. The world has changed and we no longer run it.  

The friction comes from trying to maintain the status quo with the usaul batch of assumpstions that no longer are relevant.  

Change is upon us. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:00 | 5013528 orangegeek
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US-Israeli Relationship In Jeopardy, Kerry "Ruined Everything"

 

US-Israeli relationship is just fine - yes, there are a few tools and a few communists running things now, but there are many more American interests watching the shitbags in the WH and reassuring Israel at the same time.

 

Barry and Kerry are isolated tools.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:00 | 5013531 denverdolomte
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May be time to put good ol' Mr. Ed out to pasture.....

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:29 | 5014634 Lanka
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Glue factory is preferable.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:01 | 5013532 PrayingMantis
Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:44 | 5013753 BigJim
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Maybe his inner lizard is trying to get out

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:02 | 5014209 IndyPat
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or his inner Khazar? Oh snap? you mean he's not Irish?

But, I guess at this point we are just splitting hairs. Lizard works just as well.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:01 | 5013533 cluelessminion
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US-Israeli Relationship In Jeopardy, Kerry "Ruined Everything"

 

Yea right.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:02 | 5013535 laomei
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oh no, horseface went and ruined everything, now the us will REALLY start having to suck zionist cock

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:02 | 5013538 Winston Churchill
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So Secretariat  is stall(ed) ,a bit , after another snaffle.

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:02 | 5013539 the wet spot
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If Kerry did indeed destroy the one-sided relationship between Israel and The U.S. - HE SHOULD BE HAILED A HERO.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:11 | 5013586 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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So how does this work exactly?  The US pisses the Isrealis off so much that Isreal turns its back on the US, stops taking its money and goes it alone in the Middle East?  This isn't at all like pissing off Putin, the Chinese or the Germans.

 

Much as I enjoy watching horse face get yelled at, I'm not sure I see how the US is damaged by this.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:02 | 5013540 syntaxterror
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I say give Food Stamp another Nobel Peace Prize. A single Nobel isn't enough for this gifted peace maker.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:03 | 5013542 djsmps
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I mocked him twice before breakfast.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:06 | 5013544 JustObserving
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The Nobel Prize Winner is owned by the Israelis, lock, stock and barrel.  In March 2009, he signed an agreement handing over all NSA data including that on Americans over to Israel without any legal restrictions.  That was the mark of a supreme traitor to the US.  But, of course, US media refused to cover the story and no US politician dared comment on that story:

The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:05 | 5013549 syntaxterror
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Why don't the Jews have enough money to fund themselves? 60% of all bankers on earth are Jews, yet they need handouts? 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:09 | 5013575 Infinite QE
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It's all in their shite book the talmud. All non-jews are just donkeys to be used up.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:13 | 5013596 toady
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You can't expect them to spend their own money! Hell no!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:04 | 5013550 LawsofPhysics
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The moneychangers are in the temple again...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:04 | 5013551 Infinite QE
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I don't how these fucking bolsheviks can create so much chaos all at the same time. Like they are genetically wired to create chaos.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:08 | 5013552 Dr. Engali
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There is a reason why this administration surrounds themselves with idiots like Kerry, Biden...etc. It gives them an excuse to say "we tried but ___________________ (insert idiot  name here) fucked it up.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:12 | 5013584 Ruger556
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Yes to what you said and so there are people who look dumber than Obama. He' so stupid he has to surround himself with idiots to boost his image.  Should be "The Smartest Idiot in the room" :)

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:05 | 5013554 MuleRider
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All I know right now is that I'm long Ebola and short sanity and competence. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:08 | 5013556 undercover brother
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Dear OBAMA,  

With your track record of failure, we suggest you mind your own business and stop making demands of other countries as if you're commander and chief of the world and actually know what's going on.  How dare you demand an unconditional cease fire of Israel without demanding the same from Hamas.  Furthermore, you need to get your lap dog John Kerry out of the middle east, because if there is one person on the planet who is more incompetent than you, it's Kerry.  Asking Turkey and Qatar to assist in this situation is like asking Mexico to write US immigration policy.   You sir, and your administration are a bunch of bumbling fools and have no business being in your current position of power and prestige.

Signed, 

Citizens of the USA.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:24 | 5013670 SmallerGovNow2
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Oh, and please give back the Nobel Peace Prize mofo...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:55 | 5015917 PrintemDano
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Do you mean to tell me that Mexico isn't writing US immigration policy?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:06 | 5013562 Frostfan1
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            <------ John Kerry is right.  The Israelis are wrong

            <------  John Kerry is clueless..............

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:09 | 5013574 Winston Churchill
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Both.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:14 | 5013607 Reaper
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A broken clock

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:07 | 5013564 Itchy and Scratchy
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Kerry/Weiner '16!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:08 | 5013566 alien-IQ
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Horrendous bombing taking place right now: Live straem from gaza:

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gaza-live1

 

please share this. It is a massacre.

 

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:07 | 5013567 ToNYC
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Nuclear-Free Middle East, the 800-lb gorilla at the prom.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:07 | 5013568 Number 156
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These attacks prove that they are racially motivated against the obama administration!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:09 | 5013572 where_is the_nuke
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why the long face?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:31 | 5014353 dumbStruck
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Being a dreadfully abused beast of burden, a pack mule laboured with the "load" of brokering peace between Hamas and the rabid morally bankrupt hawks of Israel could explain it. Not that I have a heck of a lot of compassion for the ass.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:09 | 5013577 Itchy and Scratchy
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Polosi/Heinz '16!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:09 | 5013578 hot sauce technician
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American hegemony nearing its end. Edom has finally been exposed.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:10 | 5013582 Notsobadwlad
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More positioning of the US as the universal bad guy.

The Irony is that most likely the US, Israel and Hamas are all being orchestrated by the same power in a not really so intricate dance of fantasy.

They want conflict so people to choose sides and they want to leave the US alone and isolated ... the rats are jumping off the ship that is about to be sunk.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:11 | 5013583 p00k1e
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Just send cashola - Romans 15:27

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:11 | 5013585 Elliptico
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A tempest in a teapot. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5013590 kchrisc
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"US-Israeli Relationship In Jeopardy, Kerry "Ruined Everything""

Anyone that truly believes that John Cohen, aka John Kerry, really "ruined" the DC US' relationship with Israel will love the great deal I am offering on a bridge in Brooklyn.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 16:12 | 5014249 IndyPat
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Guess Horseface forgot to phrase the anwser in the form of a question?

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:13 | 5013594 Handful of Dust
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Reminds me of Hee Haw.

Not the actors, the horses.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:12 | 5013595 ekm1
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This is all staged up.

 

Kerry is just playing around with plans nobody can accept until Bibi destroyes all tunnels.

 

After that, all of a sudden, a plan will be accepted

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:13 | 5013605 Dazman
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About time. Can we now stop support the oppression of the Palestinian people and allow them to use their ports and travel and such? In reading the US media you would think the Palestinians are terrible people, until you look to Europe for information - then it becomes clear that it's Israel that is the real problem.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 14:42 | 5013748 Dazman
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Yay, my first barrage of down-votes; No doubt from people that have no clue about what's really going on over there and/or Jewish people. Up until this last week I 100% agreed with Israel because the media here told me that Hamas are proactively lauching rockets into Israel from Gaza. Of course, they forgot to tell me that Israel are oppressing the people of Gaza, so Hamas are acting in retaliation, and they have a right to do so.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 17:29 | 5014631 Oldwood
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And so Israel doesn't. Where does this tit for tat end? I have yet to hear anyone suggest how to resolve this.

 

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