"Genocide Is Permissible" Muses Times Of Israel, Promptly Retracts

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The Times Of Israel has removed a provocatively-titled blog post after huge blowback, denunciations, and ridicule across social media. The post - "When Genocide Is Permissible" (in full below) - concludes, "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?" Removal or not, we are sure this will do nothing to endear Israel to the world.


The Times Of Israel site Before and After...

h/t @PrisonPlanet


And thanks to The Way-Back Machine, here is the full article...

When Genocide Is Permissible (authored by Yochanan Gordon)

Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.


I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.


The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.


Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.


Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?


News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you’ll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave – well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.


Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.


I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

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The author just apologized...

I wish to express deep regret and beg forgiveness for an article I authored which was posted on 5TJT.com, Times of Israel and was tweeted and shared the world over.


I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message.


With that said I pray and hope for a quick peaceful end to the hostilities and that all people learn to coexist with each other in creating a better world for us all.


Yochanan Gordon

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Well that's ok then...

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Duffy's picture

This isnt out of left field - has no one hear read the excellent, page-turner by Max Blumenthal -  "Goliath"?

"Beyond Chutzpah" was a long hard slog meticulously proving its case [not that it matters to the Dershowitzes of the world - they are simply Jewish Supremacists and immune to contrary evidence] but Goliath was more like a spy novel or something.


anyway -




Quantitative_Appeasing's picture

Wait a second.....

does he realize he just supported the idea that the holocaust was a viable and tenable option for Germany in WW II?

"If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

Wow, just wow.....

It's like a victim of abuse growing up to become the abuser but at a state level...

alien-IQ's picture

"The problem with Hitler was that he was an underachiever" - Bill Hicks

Infinite QE's picture

Then, of course, they need to pay back all the billions they've soaked the Germans for.

morty_schatzberg's picture

And Americans, even though we had nothing to do with it and we "rescued" their sorry asses.

How many more billions have they looted from us? LOL

motorollin's picture

Stockholm, I mean Tel Aviv Syndrome

Jameson18's picture

Who do you think came up with the plan the Nazi's used. It wasn't the German military. The Zionist have been using the same play book forever. It never works for very long. Zionist will kill Jews just like they kill everbody else. If you are not in the club your Fucked. The question is where are they going to run this time. Are they draining the swamps in S. America so they can run there again just like they did before and during WW2. Are they sending all the sick illegals to the US so it will be nice an clean for them. Think outside the box don't listen to the MSM. And when the time comes don't hate on your Jewish friends they didn't make the club either.

WillyGroper's picture

>>>>>The Zionist have been using the same play book forever. Zionist will kill Jews just like they kill everbody else.


After digging until my eyes bled, I came to that conclusion. It was after hearing Ahmedinjad denying the holocause. I thought that was insane. That is until I followed the money & of course Prescott Bush was just one player. So's I axed my Iraqi muslim friend with a degree in theology, as this person would NEVER speak of such nasties. It was confirmed that it's the dumbass murikans are the only ones in the world blissfully unaware of this fact. 

Now here's some supreme irony...

My friend is considering converting to Judaism. 

pragmatic hobo's picture

nazi lives ... in israel.

luckylogger's picture

So the guy gets in trouble for telling the truth?????

Infinite QE's picture

Ha HA HAAAA. The fucking jews let the truth out for a minute, then PANIC fearing that America would cutoff the trillion or so a year they milk from us. Fuck Israel and all that support it.

SofaPapa's picture

We only wish the US would cut them off.  He only stated out loud what has been Israeli policy for years.  And they have used US money and arms to do it all along.  I don't see it stopping now until the US power structure ends.  And that won't be elections.

just-my-opinion's picture

I'm gonna state this out-right....all the conflicts waged in the last 30 years have been "pussy" wars

When the gloves come off...(US spent how much money since Ray-Gun)

You haven't seen nothin yet....Maybe it's good our President likes to play golf and not....screw you...watch this

Seer's picture

I don't see where the golf-playing has altered anything one bit.  Drinking tea, playing golf etc AND NOT allowing US tax dollars to be stolen through foreign entanglements, yes...

kchrisc's picture

When is genocide permissible?

When you're the one dealing it out.


"How does one say "holocaust" in Arabic?!"



Baby Eating Dingo22's picture

So some nimwit nobody posts an inflamatory editorial and this is news?

The mindless ZH Nazis will eat this up, and ZH more than happy to feed them tripe

Duffy's picture

No no, we're talking about the zionazis...




Come here often?

BigJim's picture

Only when he has Hasbara duties to perform

It's amazing how many 'people' you've never seen before come out of the woodwork to announce their approval of Judeofascism.

kchrisc's picture

My favorite way to get a sheeple's attention on the Ashkenazi is to point out that the NAACP was NOT founded by blacks, but by white Jews and one mulatto communist.

The NAACP's first 75 years of presidents/heads were also white Jews.


"I can't say what it means, but I do know that it can't be good."

alien-IQ's picture

I guess that explains why they gave Donald Sterling a lifetime achievement award...Twice!. Fucking insanity !

Seer's picture

OK then... who was Charles Manson working for?

Al Huxley's picture

Its the Israeli Times, douchebag, not some extremist outlier.  Not that you fucking care, just here to make sure the noise level stays high and maybe the waters can be muddied enough that people forget the original issue.  You missed using 'antisemitism' in your post by the way.

Frostfan1's picture

Since when was the Times of Israel a major newspaper?

Al Huxley's picture

'As of February 2014, two years after its launch, it claims a readership of 2 million'.  Population of Israel, 7.9 million.  For comparison, New York Times circulation - 1.865 million, USA Today circulation - 1.674 million.

alien-IQ's picture

Mr Huxley, I hope you realize that facts are "anti-semitic".

Frostfan1's picture

I can claim two million people read me. Doesn't mean it's actually happening. Do you even realize that you just claimed the times of Israel has more readers than the USA today and the New York Times and you actually believe this and even better a dozen other people agreed with you?

Al Huxley's picture

I didn't claim it, they did.  Or maybe they're lying - what else might they lie about then?  Maybe they're lying about the Israeli actions in Gaza.  Fuck, if I can't trust them to give me accurate readership numbers, why should I trust their explanations for their crimes against humanity?

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

You're right 'Frostfan'

Who the fuck needs the "Times of Israel" to tell you that you are the most deranged psychopathic scum on the face of the earth next to your two best buddies who repeatedly commit the same murder without any remorse?...

The United States of America and Britain that made you possible -of course!!!


We need to get Chris Kyle's fan club together with this Israeli sniper for a party and celebrate together!


alien-IQ's picture

So when somebody in your tribe says it, he's just a "lone nut job" who does not represent the feelings of all the other "good Jews", but when a non Jew says something even remotely close to that about Jews, they are proof positive that the entire world are anti-semites that hate Jews without just cause?

Well now, ain't that special?...

novictim's picture

Agreed that many ZH posters are loathsome antisemites. Likely, they have been brought up in religious households which is never a good thing.

But the other truth verified by MANY independent reporters in Israel is that RACISM and unethical notions of collective guilt and punishment have taken deep roots in todays Israeli society and government.

Dingo, it all starts with the bankrupt idea that "a people" can have a birth right to lands that they no longer occupy.  The idea of genetic entitlement is a filthy one, don't you agree?  Ther is no moral or ethical underpinning to such a view of things.

That said, Israeli's do have a right to defend themselves.   If the money is cut off to Israel, as it has been to the Palestinians for decades now, then we will see solutions and compromise leaping to actuality.

As an American, I *strongly* object to my tax dollars funding this continueing assault on GAZA. 



alien-IQ's picture

Are you really so naive as to believe that being labeled an "anti-semite" even fucking matters anymore? That term has been used and abused to the point that it is worn out and ineffectual. It's meaningless.

BigJim's picture

 That said, Israeli's do have a right to defend themselves.

Don't you think that 'right' is lost when they're committing slo-mo ethnic cleansing?

novictim's picture

As I said, the situation is complicated. 

Jews ethnically cleansed parts of Israel to make room for their diaspora.  That was deeply immoral.  Now there are generations of Israeli's who live where the former owners (the Palestinians) had lived.  Should they be moved off?  I don't think that is moral either.

People do not have a birth right to land no matter how one spins it.  Yet the Palestinians need justice and fair compensation, not apartheid.

Should the Israeli's have the right (and American arms) to corral their Palestinian neighbors into a massive ghetto?  No. 

What of the newly emerged Islamic radicalism that has hatched out of this terrible Israeli policy?  I think of this Jihadist/Religious mindset as a type of viral Meme that needs to be treated and sometimes the only solution if death.  Sad to say this.

What is your solution.  I think we need to evoke Rodney King about this time.

BigJim's picture

Frankly, the only way I can see this being resolved is for the American people to say 'enough' to their 'representatives' and for the US to basically just bribe the Palestinians to fuck off somewhere else.

But, as 'our' leaders benefit from the ongoing mayhem, I imagine the conflict to drag on until the Israelis just drive the Palestinians away or the USD collapses and Israel suddenly discovers its bitch can no longer keep it on top... then things will get 'interesting'. The Israelis will be forced to either come to an accommodation or really commit genocide. From what I've seen of their national psyche, I think they'd opt for the latter.

novictim's picture

Hey, our Representatives don't give a rats ass about what the little people want.

You want to salve the Isreali-Palastine conflict?  Then work for getting money's influence and the Washington-Corporate resolving door out of our political system.

Seriously, work on this if nothing else.

Seer's picture

That's the "solution?"  Ha!  Sorry.

There's religious pinning here, and it ain't going away.

As long as there's a power seat those who "believe" their god has given them special permission to take it, will.

It's nothing but silly human games, deception.  Ebb and flow.  Because nothing can stay static it is assured that NO ONE will EVER rule over everyone else for any appreciable time.

Too many make the mistake of believing that gloating is a glue...

alien-IQ's picture

"Jews ethnically cleansed parts of Israel to make room for their diaspora. That was deeply immoral. Now there are generations of Israeli's who live where the former owners (the Palestinians) had lived. Should they be moved off? I don't think that is moral either."

That's not even close to a rational point. How can you say on the one hand that yes, the Jews stole the land and that is immoral but to return the stolen property to those from whom it was stolen is also immoral. That's the kind of answer a politician makes when he's trying to please everyone and say the truth to nobody. It's a cop-out.

darteaus's picture

If they are conducting ethnic cleansing, they aren't very good at it.

Seer's picture

To the contrary.  Slowly boil the frogs...  Don't get the on-lookers when it happens slowly: difficult part today is that the Internet is able to challenge the MSM (and its control), so we now can actually see and hear how the frogs are slowly being boiled.

BigJim's picture

No, they're extremely good at it. Well before 1948 Zionists set out to own all of the Palestinians' land, and, less than 70 years later, they've almost succeeded.


They're taking their time. Why not? They're in no hurry, as the history of Zionism plainly shows. They've been working towards this for a long time; a missionary in Turkey reported the Rothschilds had tried to purchase Palestine from the Ottoman Sultan... in 1827.

"* We have lately a report that the Rothschilds, well known
Jewish bankers, (the richest individuals doubtless in the world,)
have proposed to purchase Palestine of the Turkish government. "


They're following the script, as laid out in Deuteronomy:

 Little by little he will drive out these nations as you advance. You will not be able to destroy them all at once, for, if you did, the number of wild animals would increase and be a threat to you. 23 The Lord will put your enemies in your power and make them panic until they are destroyed. 24 He will put their kings in your power. You will kill them, and they will be forgotten. No one will be able to stop you; you will destroy everyone.

darteaus's picture

So, 3500+ years and the Jews still haven't driven "out these nations as you advance.", but your opinion is that the Jews are "extremely good at [ethnic cleansing]".


Here are some generally recognized examples of ethnic cleansing:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_cleansings

What is happening in Gaza is not genocide or ethnic cleansing.

The facts do not support your opinion, so your opinion is based on...hate?

Duffy's picture

But the other truth verified by MANY independent reporters in Israel is that RACISM and unethical notions of collective guilt and punishment have taken deep roots in todays Israeli society and government.


So people who oppose this are frequently called "antisemites" - so what term of opprobrium can we use against the zionist-engendered *hate* of Arabs, or non-Jews generally, which many Israelis quite obviously cling to?

GW was called an antisemite in a post up earlier today by the second comment - all he did was comment on Israeli government action.


'Antisemite' is like an Israeli missile strike - sometmes it gets the right target, but usually it's pretty inaccurate.


novictim's picture

Obviously, I'll take responsibility for my own comments and no others.

Yes, Comrade Duffy.  One worn out and repulsive strategy used by Zionists is to claim their opponents are motivated by religious bigotry.  It is disgraceful to see politicians flee from that particular accusation like a vampire from sunlight.

But the solution to that line of attack is to stick to one's principles and, more so these days then in the past, the public at large will see the ad hominem for what it is. 

The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the accuser.  That truth must be emphasized.

alien-IQ's picture

It must be hard to dance on the head of a pin....

novictim's picture

Not really.  If you don't see nuances to this conflict then you are not paying close attention.

WillyGroper's picture

This world needs a Bibi Eating DingoX222

Al Huxley's picture

The fact that they would even float this trial balloon ('is the world ready to let us drop the charade here and just go flat out with our plan?  I dunno, put something out there on the web and lets see what kind of response we get') is pretty telling as to Israeli intentions.

SofaPapa's picture

The world may complain, but what are they doing about it?