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First British Minister Resigns Over "Morally Indefensible" Gaza Policy
While in the US there has been nothing but political propaganda and a constant Obama defense of John Kerry over his disastrous, to date, handling of the deteriorating situation in the middle east, in the UK the internal discord has finally moved beyond merely posturing and has claimed the first political career, when overnight a minister in the Foreign Office, Baroness Warsi, announced she has resigned from the government, saying its policy on the crisis in Gaza is "morally indefensible", is not in Britain's national interest and will have a "long term effect on our reputation internationally and domestically".
She adds that the decision "has not been easy" but there is "great unease" within the Foreign Office over "the way recent decisions are being made." According to BBC, Lady Warsi, who was previously chairman of the Conservative Party, became the first female Muslim cabinet minister when David Cameron took office in 2010. The prime minister thanked her for her "excellent work", adding that he wanted an "unconditional ceasefire" in Gaza.
Labour backed Lady Warsi's comments, but Chancellor George Osborne called her resignation "disappointing and frankly unnecessary".
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Lady Warsi grew up in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, and worked as a solicitor before entering politics. She was demoted from the cabinet to a middle-ranking Foreign Office post in 2012, being made minister for faith and communities at the same time.
She wrote on Twitter on Tuesday: "With deep regret I have this morning written to the Prime Minister & tendered my resignation. I can no longer support Govt policy on #Gaza."
Several backbench Conservative MPs have called on Mr Cameron to take a more robust line with Israel amid concerns its actions in Gaza are "disproportionate".
According to a BBC analysis of her departure, the minister has "chosen a day when the prime minister is away to hand in her resignation. She is the first minister in four years of coalition government to resign over a matter of policy."
She clearly believes - as probably the most prominent British Muslim politician in the country - that she can no longer stand by a prime minister and a government that she feels is using a "morally indefensible" policy when it comes to Israel and the ongoing conflict in Gaza.
She has made it clear that her Muslim faith and her personal beliefs must come before her political beliefs and career.
The Conservatives, traditionally, have close ties to the Israeli government and it is far more difficult for David Cameron and those at the top of his party to speak out more strongly about Israel than others, who have a different policy.
In other words, acting based on her beliefs instead of ulterior lobby interests: strange. Her full letter below:
Dear Prime Minister
For some weeks, in meeting and discussion, I have been open and honest about my views on the conflict in Gaza and our response to it.
My view has been that our policy in relation to the Middle East Peace Process generally but more recently our approach and language during the current crisis in Gaza is morally indefensible, is not in Britain's national interest and will have a long term detrimental impact on our reputation internationally and domestically.
Particularly as the Minister with responsibility for the United Nations, The International Criminal Court and Human Rights I believe our approach in relation to the current conflict is neither consistent with our values, specifically our commitment to the rule of law and our long history of support for International Justice. In many ways the absence of the experience and expertise of colleagues like Ken Clarke and Dominic Grieve has over the last few weeks become very apparent.
This decision has not been easy. It has been a privilege to serve for 3 years in your Shadow Cabinet and over 4 years in your Cabinet. Introducing you in Blackpool in 2005 as you made your bid for leadership I had the pleasure of being there at the start of the journey and it would have been rewarding to have been there til the end.
The last decade has given me the opportunity to work with some of the best in the Conservative Party and indeed in Government. William Hague was probably one of the finest Foreign Secretaries this country has seen and has been inspirational. He dismantled foreign policy making by sofa government and restored decision making and dignity to the Foreign Office. There is however great unease across the Foreign Office, amongst both Minister and senior officials, in the way recent decisions are being made.
Eric Pickles has supported me tirelessly in our work on combating hate crime. Challenging anti-Semitism and Islamaphobia and the pioneering work of celebration faith in the public sphere. This new found confidence in Government has allowed me to take the very public International lead on religious freedom, specifically on the ever growing crisis of the persecution of Christians. However, early evidence from the Home Office and others shows that the fallout of the current conflict and the potential for the crisis in Gaza and our response to it becoming a basis for radicalisation could have consequences for us for years to come.
From both Eric and William I learnt the art of reconciling passion and idealism with pragmatism and realism, but I always said that long after life in politics I must be able to live with myself for the decisions I took or the decisions I supported. By staying in Government at this time I do not feel I can be sure of that.
It is therefore with regret that I am writing to resign.
You will continue to have my personal support as leader of the Conservative party as you continue to ensure that our Party evolves to meet the challenges we face in Britain today and ensure that the Party is relevant and responsive to all communities that make up today's Britain.
Yours sincerely
Sayeeda
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Indeed. She's not (that) ugly.
Yeah, because proper British citizen would fully support Israel killing everything in sight.
If not, they are obviuosly not only proper British but also anti-semitic.
Be fair, like Barry she's trying her best to be a white man though. She must have sucked some serious amount of c#ck to have got all those shiny empire servant medals and if she did not look like a total sellout to the rank and file community I've no doubt that she wouldn't resign for a second. She's a TP and wants the money and prestige dat dee gora will give her.
Must be serious if that bribe snuffling unbritish pig has finally fucked off.
Gaza is not a Holohoax but the real thing as the Palestinians are not as good as the Hebs at spining propaganda like it was done in the Nazi era. The Hebs are masters at propaganda.
I think the Hebrews take offense to you refering to them when actually referring to the Jews.
A muslima trying to keep moral high ground...
Muslim,moral.....no, incompatible.
A muslim doesn't like Isreal...who'da thunk it.
Seems like this muslim doesn't like what a lot of other nations of various religions don't like.
At least she looks better than Nuland or Allbright or Hillary lol
I don't know about that....with a headshot like that there could be 300 pounds hiding under that neckline.
Please Tyler, no close-ups without proper warning right after breakfast; for Deity's sake!
At least have the decency to wear a freaking burka; for Deity's sake!
What, you don't like burkas? Come on, they're all the rage; just go to New Jersey!
Those burkas at least look better than those beaver hats and wrinkled black suits and coats on the Hassidic Jews in Brooklyn with the sideburns dangling around their ankles. At least with the burkas I dont have to see their faces. Wish the Hassidic Jews would adopt them also.
Ugly can be attributed to any fanatical group, religious or otherwise, so I'm okay with your description. Unless you are saying one is better than the other? If so, then let's just agree to disagree. And, if you look like your pic, stick to pole dancing; all else is well beyond you.
So she obviously is not a fundamentalist because she doesnt wear a burka but yet you recommend she does because you are an anti-moderate muslim POS. Now you said unless one is better than the other so lets agree to disagree. This shows your favoritism for the Hassidic sect so I already know your religious inclination. Hey next time tie your sideburns to your shoelaces so they dont flop all over the sidewalk, its rude when someone is trying to walk past your greasy hair.
Due to your obvious lack of reading comprehension, pole dancing it is. Though I bet you're just a fluffer. ;-)
Look, over there, it's a Kardashian... Annnnnddddd, she's gone...
Being afraid to say the word GOD gives you away.
Nah, though I do hold out hope for a higher power, I don't believe in any man's version or description thereof. But you keep fighting the good fight and some day you will be rewarded with your virgins, or heaven, or whatever other bull shit you wish to believe in. K pumpkin? Now run along, this is grown up hour.
Bullish, buy stokks/sell treasuries...
Could it be the American/Zionist chokehold on the rest of the world is weakening?
Don't read the words...watch the actions....actions speak louder than words.....Just sayin'.
Monica Lewinsky I presume?
Who said Politics and Religion do not mix..
Well, at least she didn't blow herself up.
Not sure that's a good thing. She's part of an altogether more dangerous subset of people: lawyers.
Edit: more precisely, lawyers with grandiose political aspirations.
I think Obammy has his goons downvoting me right now :(
Did I miss the part where she condemned Hamas for firing rockets into Israel?
Did you also miss a British MP David Ward saying he'd probably do the same? Fascist jews reported him to the police for expressing his opinion: Lib Dem MP David Ward reported to police over Gaza
the unguided rockets that killed a total of 3 people, rockets fired after multiple Israeli airstrikes killed a dozen or so Palestinians?
Only killed three people thanks to the actions of the IDF. But I suppose you'd be happier if things were more 'fair' and Israeli's were dying left and right.
Nonsense - most of these unguided rockets land harmlessly regardless of the anti-missile intercepts.
I'd be happier if you were more committed to getting closer to the truth. I'd be happiest if no one, very much including Israelis, were killing or being killed for what amount to legal and religious fictions.
I wish I had your brain for a week.
To get some real rest.
NSA/Mossad did not have enough dirt on her? Apparently, all US politicians are venal or blind or both since they will not comment on the catastrophe in Gaza.
have a "long term effect on our reputation internationally and domestically".
You've got to be kidding me. 7 billion people hate your globalist banksters, your city of fraud and your worldwide financial terrorism. If I were you lady I'd quit and get the hell out of London before the collapse goes full tilt.
"Moralls".... right.
Just like "great american" Neel Kashkari, featured Wall Street Lobbist live on CNBC this morning. Smiling Faces.
Every year just as the rainy season is underway, my Progressive acquaintances go out into the woods to pick their "Morals"
New Progressive bumper-stiocker:
"I'm Ready for Hillary"
lol...I gotta say you are easily one of the most quotable people on this here website...
Yeah, the Democratic Party wing of the Corporate Party has done to the notion of "Progressive" as the Republican Party wing of the Corporate Party has to the notion of "Tea Party."
Hilary Clinton. Saints preserve us.
A Muslim mixing her religion into her politics, who would have thought, eh?
Unlike AIPAC, Board of Deputies, Friends of Israel, et al?
I don't disagree with you.
I just hope we don't miss that she's exactly the same as all of the people you listed. She's not one of the 'good guys'. She's got her own agenda too, but her kind has nowhere near the power and influence that people like AIPAC have.
and, of course, christians don't do that.
I have my own agenda as well. So does my wife. And my neighbour. Presumably my kid too, although he might be too young to know it.
You are a fucking idiot.
You mean like creating a nation for Jews only?
Bravo Mrs. Warsi! You have the hart and balls that I whish all politicians had!!
Sure takes a lot of balls to jump ship when you sense the time is prudent right? I mean, surely we won't see this woman running for office elsewhere will we? Right?... Right?
>>>>>>when you sense the time is prudent
Likely to be killed for taking such a stand.
You're joking right? I'll give you my opinion on the why/what/where/how.
British politicians are populist. They don't care about left, or right, they like to spin tales that make them friends. David Cameron wants to be viewed as a progressive Prime Minister. He also wants to capture the Muslim vote. Muslims make up quite a significant percentage of the British population.
What is the best way to be viewed as progressive and pro Muslim? By installing a British Muslim lawyer in a prominant position from one of the roughest areas/biggest Muslim communities in the country.
This woman is a lawyer, in essence a career politician who specializes in debate and linguistics. Spinning language to argue a point. That means (for all of the Economist bashers out there) that you are dealing with someone that is even LESS of a clue than an Economics major. Why do I think she left her position? Because she needs to keep her community on her side if she decides to run for any other kind of office. That is her primary source of votes. Could this be a moral stand? Possible. But in case you haven't noticed, the kind of individuals in office these days don't exactly scream "moral stand".
Edit: Oh yeah and as for her being killed.. no. Just no. Sorry. You don't kill citizens of allied countries, much less eminent politicians. You know why? If the news gets out it could single-handedly back the politicians of that country into taking a FAR more aggressive stance against you just because they are forced to by the public opinion.
About time more in the west get off the Israel nutsack.
Without meaning any disrespect to Lady Warsi, I do wonder how a Muslim could NOT resign under these circumstances. Therefore, her resignation seems like a non-event that merely makes room for a Zionist or a career-first obedient technocrat to take her place.
This will mean something only if her resignation blazes the trail for others who, by their numbers, prominence, or gravitas, begin to embarrass the British (and hopefully the American) government to really pressure Zionists in Israel to change policy. Seems like a long-shot.
uuuhhhh many of the palestinians being slaughtered are christian. why haven't any christians resigned?
One reason may be that there are very few actual Christians left in Britain, or most of Europe for that matter.
The churches are virtually empty, and if it weren't for government subsidies providing life support for the ever deepening silent apostasy, no one would even think to ask about Christians in Britain or Europe.
Better if she had stayed to bang a few heads together and knock some sense into a few of the Zionist/ Rothschild crowd.
A Muslim baroness? No wonder the UK is so messed up.
Given that she is a Muslim, this is about as surprising as the sun coming up. Maybe they should send her to ISIS to get her crotch remodeled.
Yawn. Wake me up when some well groomed Jew resigns.
Here's another politician with the gonads to call it like it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keS-LDl_ewA
I saw that the other day. He was absolutely fantastic and 100% spot on.
Yeah but he's also a homo who defended a paedophile.
as usual, attack the person instead of his words. what do you think you gain from this except to expose yourself as an asshole.
So long, good luck and good bye.
Why not just stay in Parliament until the Army of the Caliphate sweeps through England and kills off all the non-believers...
her talking is giving me a boner for her
Here's what Breitbart had to say about her:
It is no secret that this unelected woman was co-opted into the UK Cabinet in David Cameron's vain and racist attempt to have the first female, Muslim minister in British history. But I'm not sure that's what history will remember about her, or about him for that matter.
Instead, if anything at all is recollected about Warsi, it should be her ability to be one of the most tribal, divisive, and counter-productive characters in the modern British government. Her record speaks for itself.
Little surprise then that Warsi went to ground over the Trojan Horse affair, only to resurface to start towing the Hamas line in the latest Israeli action against terrorism in Gaza. She's positively obsessed.
She's sent 24 tweets and retweets about the issue since July 12th. That's out of 45 in total. That's 53 percent. Over half her focus being spent on a situation far more complex than she makes out by writing, "#EidWithGaza" or by retweeting the latest United Nations condemnation of an event that never even took place.
The best thing about Andrew Breitbart: HE'S FUCKING DEAD.
Must take a lot of balls to resign and get a pension equal to 100% of your salary.
Then again from the looks of that broad she no doubt has some big balls.
The more I learn about and hear from Israelis, the more certain I become that it is a race of vipers and villains with no redeeming human qualities and are a danger to all people of the world that desire peace.
Reading the comments here on ZH and other places by the defenders of Israeli genocide on Gaza, I am hardened in my view of them and what was once mere dislike is rapidly growing to complete loathing.
That fact that so many in public life in America are afraid to speak out is nothing short of one of the most cowardly and disgusting things I have ever seen.
hamas has vowed to wipe out isael, so piss on them.
hamas fired the first shot. they are the cowardly ones.
there are a lot of things jewish political groups (ADL, SPLC) in the US do that I despise (Open Borders, support for every degarading cultural mores).
i still defend israel cause its not their fault what american jews and other doogooder liberals do.
Hey you ignorant scumbag, look up the fucking Likud charter:
Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
There have been some updates to the platform more recently, reflecting Israel’s withdrawal of settlements from Gaza in 2005. But the Likud Party has *never* in its statements of principles, accepted a Palestinian State. Its electoral partner, Yisrael Beitenu, has likewise categorically rejected the possibility of an independent Palestinian State, insisting that the idea is nothing more than a ploy to facilitate the destruction of Israel.
hamas fired the first shot. they are the cowardly ones.
Dumb or lying?
Israel fired first - this has been discussed here ad nauseam - you're a fucking troll.
Big freaking deal. You come here every day cranking out ten or twenty time more comments than I do every day and all you convince people here is that you know nothing of US politics like when you thought the Senate would block the military aid due to public opinion and that you agree that the Times of Israel has a larger circulation than USA Today or NY Times. Getting the same dozen green arrows may make you feel better but it doesn't make you smart. So double down or whatever and get even more angrier at the Israelis as if we're shocked shocked that there's gambling going on around here!!!!!
Give the woman some credit for appearing to making a stand!!
Most on here seem to be so cynical of every move politicians make but just perhaps she has done it for the right reasons, if so she should be shown some encouragement. Resigning on principle these days is so rare, most just laugh off public opinion and take the cash.
The reason why she stood down is completely irrelevant.
Americans only reward sycophants. It's the only reason so many defend what Israel is doing; Fear of being fired by a Jew.
Have you ever known or heard of anyone in America being fired or having their career damaged for supporting Israel?
Have you ever heard of anyone in America being fired or having their career damaged for speaking out against Israel?
This is a very serious problem. If it doesn't get nipped in the bud, it will become the cancer that devours this nation.
+ 100
"If it doesn't get nipped in the bud, it will become the cancer that devours this nation."
Er, don't you think it has already done exactly that? The USA is now occupied territory.
Damn Monty, here I am, trying to be optimistic and you come and pee in my cheerios. Now I have no choice but to start drinking early...Damn you Irish!!!
cheers man.
When measuring the distance apples fall from the tree, statically there will be 6-sigma events. It is comforting to see that not all of the spawn of those who's ancestors gave aid and comfort to the crown are morally bereft.
Hey Lady Warsi maybe you want to add to your 'morally indefensible' list the below as well. Hypocrite.
http://shoebat.com/2014/08/01/hamas-hangs-young-children-fence-use-human...
The question is ( as often ) : is this politician leading or following ?
I am quite sure that islam had a principle role in the founding and cultural development of the British Isles, much as obama lauded them here in the US last week.
Translation - we get our way, or their will be violence. just like with the cartoons.
While I am sure there are many others, she actually contradicts your point by joining the system and playing according to it's rules. This is what the Brits are quite brilliant at, integrating foreigners/people of foreign origin into their system. You want to integrate muslims or not ?
You can't integrate Muslims... either they will be integrated, or they will stay Muslim, but there's no way to do both. Islam is about integrating you and ji-homey don't play it in reverse.
wrong religion. jews cannot be integrated as it has been proven more than 100 times.
Together with the legendary disclaimer 'we will not be responsible for any violence that might ensue....'
actually islam had a central role in spreading the idea of knowledge to the barbaric cave dwelling euros.....and hot black irish chicks
Hey sorry - anyone have a newer copy of the hasbara handbook?
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf
I feel like some of ZH' new flies-to-shit hasbarats are mixing in some new material.
It's surely still basically mostly just unabashedly lying...
but they're also "projecting:"
Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times"All governments lie, as I.F. Stone pointed out, including Israel and Hamas. But Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories—required under the rules of American journalism—although we know they are untrue." - Chris Hedges
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_israel_lies_20140803
A muslim? Nothing to see, move on.
If a V-2 landed in her backyard do you think her position would be the same? Dresden comes to mind...
Yes, all of you whining jackasses are quick to forget why Europe hasn't been a Nazi stronghold for the last 70 years. Something to do with bombers ...
Why would you say Israel became a Nazi stronghold?
You still think Hitler lost, do you?
When Red Cloud protested to Gen. Sheridan about the draconian nature of a proposed peace treaty Sheridan replied 'if you had our power and we yours, you'd slaughter every one of us to the last woman and child'.
Not defeninding what Israel is doing but I shudder to think of the casualties were the respective Israeli-Hamas strengths reversed.
Well, that depends on if in this hypothetical, Israel has still stolen their land or not.
the game is not over yet. the outcome is still in doubt but the tables seem to be turning.
No, I think his spirit is alive and well with the pack of dogs living in Gaza.
Gaza isn't Israel.
Likud sure is, though.
Haven't seen you criticize them yet.
Or the racism and hate inherent to Zionism
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-lo...
Only one creed here is calling for the actual genocide of a people. "From the river, to the sea ...".
Newsflash: Islam is an ideology, not a race.
Newsflash: Islam is a religion, and I never said it was a "race" - read mor carefully, before replying.
And given recent calls for genocide by Israeli poliicians and bloggers, your bias is showing more than usual.
Religions are ideologies. Try again.
You imply Zionist 'racism' against Muslims: this is absurd on the face of it if Islam is not a race.
Oh, do stop repeating rumours based in quotations of quotations taken completely out of context.
Apropos a genocide of 'Palestinians'
noun noun: genocide; plural noun: genocides the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation. ' ' 'Palestinians' are neither an ethnic group nor a nation. But we understand that semantic rigour is not your strong suit.Socrates is a Greek. Socrates is a mammal.
Islam is a religion. Islam is an "ideology."
Try again - do you think you get more credit for being more vague?
If you infer something, does that mean I implied it?
Zionist xenophobia, and racism against Arabs are both intimately related to the religion of most of the Palestinian people. Being pedantic while missing the point doesn't make you look intelligent - it reinforces the growing body of work establishing that you are a juvenile sophist.
Everybody here knows Islam is a religion, shithead.
Genocide quotations taken out of context? Huh? Recent comments by Israeli politicians, rabbis, and Zionist bloggers can be found by anyone who cares to spend a minute looking. Your effort at obfuscation is inane on its face.
Your hasbara talking point is absurd, beneath even you. Why not, arguendo, adhere to the UN definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Prevention_and_Punishment...
There is no reason, at all, it can not apply to the indigenous people of Israel/Palestine currently occupied/blockaded by the Jewish colonialist, apartheid state.
"But we understand that semantic rigour is not your strong suit."
Who's "we" here champ - people who think Palestinians aren't a people because there hasn't been a specifically Palestinian-Arab state? People who think it isn't "genocide" when its Jews killing people who have no claim to the land other than having lived there for many hundreds of years while the forebears of most Israeli were in Poland or Germany or Ukraine?
If you don't think genocide is possible because only one part of a given broader ethnic group is being selectively murdered for being of that group - then you're a fucking idiot. You certainly don't have the first clue about international law/conventions.
~~~
You're really a 'give 'im enough rope' kind of troll, pedantic, sophomoric, and only superficially familiar with logic and the art of polemics.
But there's just too many of you insipid twats about at the moment... I could write your replies for you.
It's boring.
- http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-lo...
oh s**t, another one of netan's yahoos, with matza balls. lol
"hasn't been a Nazi stronghold for the last 70 years."
really behind the curve aren't you?
Baroness Warsi will know that most British foreign policy is morally indefensible since long before the days of Blair. Going back to the days of Empire in fact. One wonders why she ever wanted to work in the Foreign Office.
Cameron and Hague have simply turned it up a notch to show they are equally warmongering as Blair was. Their active support for bombing Libya (now a failed state), Syria (rampaged by rebels), for the junta running Ukraine (now undergoing civil war) together with their venomous comments about Putin on MH17 and sanctions, and open support for the criminal Netanyahu as he bombs Gaza to rubble are all examples of a political class that has lost a moral compass, if it ever had one.
How should Britain have responded to MH17 ?
Waiting for a proper investigation would have been nice and not blaming the Russians childishly and reflexively. How about asking for air traffic control audios that were confiscated by the SBU? What about looking at eye witness accounts as covered by the BBC, where they saw a fighter plane attacking it? Or maybe showing concern for what looks like bullet holes in the cockpit? Or pressing the Americans to show some evidence to back up their social media games? That would be a start.
a proper investigation was made very difficult by the rebels. Air traffic control audio : good point I guess
"very difficult by the rebels."
try getting your opinions from another source other than MSM. :)
that is why I am here.
Was access to OSCE not blocked by rebels ?
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Here's a suggestion to you who thinks he holds the keys to absolute morality: take your pacifistic do-gooding leftist drivel and choke on it. I raise my glass to the fact that my ancestors waged wars on barbarians, attempted to civilise savages, and pissed in the faces of people like you.
Your posts are replete with weapons-grade stupidity and ignorance, son. What are you, still in college and fresh out of some mind-blowing course with a professor who wore bow ties and 'doesn't even care about grades' and you think you're bringing something to the ZH table?
All you're bringing is a full diaper and hasbara.
We really don't need any more of either - we're all stocked up with Ziotrolls and the usual gang of idiots.
Again: ignorance of what, oh enlightened moralist?
moralist?
I think you're late for class, son.
Excuse me for not being an emasculated white male burdened by feelings of pseudo-religious guilt and seething with a hatred for his own culture. I'd wager to guess if anyone picked up ideas from professors sporting polka dot bow ties, it's the one parroting lines from the postmodern critique of European civilisation. Up yours, lefty.
you're emasculated between the ears mate. f**k off
Don't you have a diversity studies class to attend?
"my ancestors waged wars on barbarians, attempted to civilise savages, and pissed in the faces of people like you."
bravo all the qualities of a barbarian succinctly expressed. lmao
I don't think you'd know the meaning of the words 'civilisation' and 'barbarism' if a gang of naked savages with bones stuck through their noses ravaged your daughters and cooked the edible bits of you in a pot. But that's all just a Eurocentric bed time story, isn't it?
LOL. You need a lesson in left and right friend.
Absolutely right Smacker. However I take her resignation as one small voice making a statement and a sacrifice. Pity there were not more when all the other atrocities you mention took place.
Good to know she's been fighting that dreaded "Islamaphobia".
I don't suppose she given any thought to the Britophobia among her co-religionists.
"She has made it clear that her Muslim faith and her personal beliefs must come before her political beliefs and career."
if this is how she thinks about it, she should never have a political function in europe again.
She is better fit to persue a political career in one of the non democratic islamic states.
good riddance.
Exactly. And almost all Muslims are the same. This 'Baroness' is a small town Pakistani lawyer who was catapulted into an exalted position because she was, in order of importance, Muslim, brown and a woman. As she showed while in office, ability had absolutely nothing to do with it.
brit hasbara. how honored we are. scumbag.
What and the Jews don't self promote based on religion instead of merit.
"ability had absolutely nothing to do with it." that goes for all politicos and some of the clowns that post here. like you and the fool you responded to. lol
Whatever her background, she is absolutely right to reject the West's unswerving support for genocide in Gaza.
Top 5 Ways the U.S. Is Israel’s Accomplice in War Crimes in GazaThe Jewish run media is running this Ad on Fox http://www.stophamasnow.com. More propaganda so they can kill more children.
eeek! Somebody veil that thing!
Israel’s Military Strategy:”Obliterate Them Completely”. Overwhelming Evidence of Genocide, Precise Data on Death and Destruction in Gaza
Justifying Israel’s Slaughter in Gaza
Who is the Enemy?Everyone has an opinion to explain the massacres committed by the State of Israel in Gaza. While in the 70s and 80s, it was seen as a demonstration of Anglo-Saxon imperialism, many interpret it today as a conflict between Jews and Arabs. Reviewing the long period of history - four centuries -, Thierry Meyssan, a consultant to several governments, analyzes the origins of Zionism, its true ambitions and determines who the enemy is. ...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article184973.html
Oh no, 'imperialism': let us stop our ears and run about crying "Mea culpa!" when we hear it. Do I detect a sore Scotsman? Who is the ethnocentrist now, oh nationalist?
lol.
you should read the thing you purport to be commenting about, don't ye think?
I got about halfway and found it to be load of partisan blather with barely a drop of truth to squeeze out of the rags of its ideological prnouncements. As for what si true, I find little objectionable in the facts of Zionist and Israeli history you think are so horrendous. Get over it, and stop pretending that your ethical valuations constitute truths. What do you take me for? A worshiper in the temple of leftist liberalism?
Is U.S. Military Aid to Israel Legal?
legal has no reference where the empire is concerned nor are morals or principle. that is what makes this girl a political lightweight. she has reverence for for all three.
Empire is a principle, and its achievement is most certainly governed by a table of values; they just happen not to be those of sappy humanitarianism.
Your rejoinder was inane. If you aren't going to read a link, commenting on it is mere and obviuous trolling.
empire is hardly a principle no matter its use as a semantic tool. you are right about the values. that is the point here. guide the empire as the shining light with the proper values. that used to be the usa(even as it was enforced it violently) before it decided to pursue empire for the sake of empire, a vacuum that will be filled with the likes of people diminished to the point of self preservation. read any history lately? like the history of the british or even the romans?
Oh, really? The IMPERIVM ROMANVM, that most pure example of the idea of empire, wasn't a principle to Romans, and one brimming with implicit and explicit values? You appear to be confusing an expansionism driven by material greed with empire, which is in fact its very abrogation. Yes, I am well-enough acquainted with Roman and British history; I just don't see in them the blood-stained tyrannies over noble savages that you do through your do-gooding glasses.
what is said and what is done are two different ideas. the usa started on the principles outlined in the venerable constitution. those principles do not extend to the conquered so the usa empire as principle is wishful thinking as was the british mandate(yes i know, get the irony, semantics and all) of white man's burden becomes an intolerable burden for the conquered. empire, by it's nature is not a principle, regardless of how you might spin it. i am just saying there are alternatives. the chinese model shows promise as a more effective model. the fact is, empire by any means or the original intent, becomes expansionism at the expense of the local population. name a case where it hasn't been that way.
Nope, and that's why they deny they have nuclear weapons.
Well now, since when did the UK have a dog in that fight?
And exactly what is the UK's foreign policy supposed to accomplish there?
Britain would do better to mind its tea and crumpets.
not disagreeing with the sentiment of your post, but for chrissakes dont you know any history?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
Yeah, I've been studying mideast history for years. You don't get my point. Today is 2014. What business is it for the UK, the US, or any other nation to get involved in this conflict. (or in Ukraine, also). It just isn't the UK's business.
If you know history, and by your own standard here, politicians in the UK should resign whenever the US does something they don't like, because the UK was quite involved in the establishment of the US.
Well.for starters, UK presided over the creation of israel and administered palestine prior to that. For seconders, Zionists murdered 300 UK civil servants back around 1947 ushering in ME terrorism. Just celebrate a minister who puts her integrity above her ambition. Haven't seen that around here in living memory.
As for UK having a position, i think it is the USA who should review her position. Not really getting anywhere with the old empire are we.