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Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:19 | 5053420 medium giraffe
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If that is the case, then credibility is moot.  But this is a fucking mind job. 

As far as I can tell - it's getting bad in Africa. They brought cases over to Atl tropical disease because it's the best in the world. The rest of the noise is just to scare the peeples for fun and profit.

If I'm wrong, doesn't matter.  But don't freak.  We're all going to die anyway.  Every single one of us. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:42 | 5053520 IridiumRebel
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Absolutely correct. It's a positive and if that info is released in NYC anywhere around that city, its panic time. I got a finger on the pulse to Jacobi's ER and Belleview. No news yet.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:53 | 5053589 ThroxxOfVron
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KEEP QUIET for fuck-sakes!!!

This is probably our only chance to finally get rid of Fatass and his yesasses.

 

ALLcash/Jewelry insafe.  45&shorty. ALL ammo.  Both bugbox.  LeavCat.  ILuvYu Honey.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:08 | 5053647 Citxmech
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Now might be a good time to review:  "After Armageddon" - or watch it a first time if you haven't seen it yet:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym4PwHmUvI

(History Channel show about a worst-case global pandemic)

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:34 | 5054167 Enceladus
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Exactly. No News Is Not Good News. Gatwick 12 hours - No Ebola, Ohio - 12hours No Ebola NYC - 48hours **Crickets**

 

P.S. Nigeria represents 11% of the US oil imports. Nigeria has a population of 170 million, and Lagos a population of 21 million. In 6 weeks Lagos will regurgitate several million refugees into the country side. Then it's truly game on.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:47 | 5054236 dizzyfingers
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"P.S. Nigeria represents 11% of the US oil imports. Nigeria has a population of 170 million, and Lagos a population of 21 million. In 6 weeks Lagos will regurgitate several million refugees into the country side. Then it's truly game on."

"The Great Game" is about oil... western nations require it; how far might they go to get it?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:09 | 5053284 Sudden Debt
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They're still putting what's left of his body in soup cans to ship him to the labratory.

But most doctors still think he had just a harmless cold.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:42 | 5054163 813kml
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I didn't know that Dinty Moore was expanding into undertaking, the can will be a big savings on an expensive casket.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:34 | 5054773 Bemused Observer
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813kml! I LIKE Dinty Moore beef stew...you better not have ruined it for me...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:42 | 5053518 Tjeff1
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I know!  And all the other tests have come back in hours.  They are dragging their feet on this one.  I wonder why?  Maybe because its positive.  And all these "officials" that said its unlikely ebola and not to worry are completely wrong.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:44 | 5053848 xcehn
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Commenter on straightdope.com says:

"The Horse's Mouth indicates that a positive diagnosis of Ebola requires the use of a variety of tests, including ELISA and PCR, and that this would take a matter of days. Symptoms in the first several days are non-specific (rash, fever). And you would need strain-specifc ELISA and PCR tests to determine which strain is involved. Ditto for Marburg, which is really just the mildest of the Sisters Ebola.

Viruses are hard to diagnose, as they are very, very small, and need to be cultured. That, and they need to present a very distinctive antibody profile. Which only really works if you have a good reference probe.

Once the initial phase of the disease is over, the symptoms might be somewhat more, errrr, distinctive. But not every case results in the dramatic bloody-vomit-gut-sloughing nightmare described in Preston's book. A patient can expire with extended fever and internal bleeding, with little external signs beyond the rash.

The two factors that promote the outbreaks of Ebola are 1)the recycling of needles and 2)inferior sanitation protocols. These factors have turned clinics into foci for the amplification of the outbreaks. Also, tribal traditions in handling the dead serve as effective transmission modes that amplify the infection within tribes and families."

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=427924

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:10 | 5054664 wtf1369
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I imagine "they're" running, re-running, and re-re-running those samples hoping for a better answer than the one they keep getting. Ok best out of three, ok best out of 5, etc. As said below, no news sure don't feel like good news this time around.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:55 | 5055209 SilverRhino
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As of 27 minutes ago .... still no results.   

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/08/06/mount-sinai-hospital-president-patient-in-good-spirits-ebola-test-results-could-come-wednesday/

Yeah, they're terrified of announcing a POSITIVE result in NYC.    Just imagine that chaos.

 Also if it was a false alarm, well, look how FAST they annouced that Gatwick ebola negative response.  

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:39 | 5053267 Cloud9.5
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We are hamstrung by habit, custom, tradition whatever you want to call it. We are frozen into our daily routines.  For most people this outbreak is something happening in Africa.  We know it is there because it is in the news.  It makes us uneasy.  We ponder the possibilities.  There is nervous chatter about it with our morning coffee; still, 99.9% of us will do nothing.  In a couple of weeks our kids start back to school.

 

Once it becomes evident to the general public that it is here then it is already too late.  Africans have demonstrated that sick people go to doctors.  Hospitals become hot spots of infection.  Bodies are recognized as vectors for the disease so they rot in the streets.

 

We will be no more civilized if it comes here.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:50 | 5053303 Bemused Observer
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Your comment inspired me to post this...

If Ebola DOES break out here, do not, I repeat, DO NOT go anywhere NEAR a hospital! You'd be better off just shooting yourself in the head. It will be quicker and less painful.
If there's some medicine being passed out and you want to try it, send someone healthy to go get it and bring it back to you. But stay the hell away from hospitals...they will be nothing more than morgues, and if you don't have Ebola before you go, you WILL when you get there.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:13 | 5053391 wtf1369
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Then why would I ask one of my healthy loved ones to go to said hospital to retrieve any meds? 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:31 | 5054765 Bemused Observer
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I said 'if'.
Hey, if you get Ebola you will be feverish and delusional, you'll be saying a lot of stuff. Your relatives will know, and ignore you, so don't worry about it. They're not going to be taking orders from you.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:14 | 5053399 notadouche
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My own experience going to the emergency room while bleeding profusely from an area no one wants to bleed from, my first ER visit in many many years, educated me on where not to go when ill.  I received immediate treatment which included a CT scan and about 3 hours of IV antibiotic treatment.  Within 2 days the arm with the IV began to be sore, get a little red and swell.  Another day passed and the arm was clearly infected.  Some sort of very aggressive infection from the IV the ER gave me though they were trying to act as if I were bit by a spider or something.   

Bottom line is the ER is the last place you to go when you are sick.  By the way I also had to pay for the treatment curing me from the infection that the hospital gave me.  Now thats a pretty nice racket.  3 weeks of antibiotic hell.  3 different kinds 9 pills a day!

When I die I will do it in the comfort of my own home and on my own terms. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:37 | 5053494 Bryan
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I am convinced that my Mom ultimately died as a result of the 'treatment' she received in ER.  Admitted for portal hypertension and esophageal hemorrhages due to hepatitis, they pushed a scope down there and popped more of the veins and ended up dropping blood pressure, brain damage and put 22 units of blood through her.  Thanks, guys.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:31 | 5053785 Buckaroo Banzai
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At any given time or place, Iatrogenesis is generally the second or third leading cause of death. Seek medical care...carefully.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:37 | 5053499 IridiumRebel
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Howdy all! Wife ran an ER in the Bronx for seven years. STAY THE FUCK AWAY AND GO TO A PRIMARY CARE. That is all. BTW, we are seeing if our old friends back there are seeing any cases. My wife runs a clinic here in Ohio and no warnings have been issued. SHe asked another gal she works with and the stated, "what's Ebola?" I shit you not. My wife knows cuz I know and she saw W. Africa hospitals first hand. It gets loose in Lagos Africa is done.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:58 | 5053931 WillyGroper
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know a girl that died from mrsa after the er told her it was a spider bite.

$2MM later. And 5 orphaned kids.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:17 | 5053415 Winston Churchill
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+1000.

Until you have had IV vancamycin for a month to get rid  of the MRSA the hospital

gave you in the first place, you do not really get it.

Boy does that shit burn as it goes in.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:03 | 5053627 Seek_Truth
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Never go the a hospital unless it is an immediate matter of life and death.

85% of all invasive MRSA infections are from healthcare facilities with patients contracting infections after their stay ( two-thirds) and one-third while in the facility.

And this are 2005 numbers.

The CDC has not updated those statistics in nine years!

I wonder why?

http://www.mrsasurvivors.org/statistics

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:26 | 5054744 Bemused Observer
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Yep, they are giant Petri dishes for all manner of nasties. In a pandemic situation, the only reason I might consider going to a hospital is if I was already dying and hoping to get a shot of something to ease my way. But then, they'd probably have run out of that shit before I got there, so I'd just end up staying home.

Hospitals and nursing homes are THE ideal settings for resistant organisms to mix and exchange proteins and genes. I get the heebies walking inside places like that.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:04 | 5053355 notadouche
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Actually we are mostly hamstrung by commitments, the need to do what we do to keep our families  fed, housed and educated. I wouldn't call going to work or school  a "tradition".  It's an OBLIGATION that does not allow for much deviation in routine.  

I don't know a single person nervously chattering about this.  Just exactly would you have anyone do?  Would it make you feel better if we all started running around like Chicken Little?   Yes we will get our kids to school and do whatever it is we do every day.  Shit happens around the world daily but we all carry on with our lives as best we can.  

I got news for you.  If there is an Ebola outbreak in America there will again be nothing you can do about it,  any more than you avoided the Swine Flu, H1N1, TB, Cancer or Brain Tumors.  In fact if it were to come to America you would have no choice of what you did.  The Authority would take your choices away and tell you exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it.

What did you do during Katrina?  Fukushima,  any number of drone attacks, 9/11.  Even during 9/11 unless you were in the hot zone you still had to take care of your kids, take care of your business even while people were plummeting to their deaths.   

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:33 | 5053467 medium giraffe
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Fuck me.  Someone wrote something sensible! +1000

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:10 | 5053653 Seek_Truth
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You are trapped in a paradigm of your own choosing.

As they say, you make your bed and you lay in it.

I know if Ebola ever became anything close to an epidemic in the US, me and my loved ones routine would change immediately.

Life is more important than the almighty dollar.

"Anyone who is among the living has hope --even a live dog is better off than a dead lion!" - Ecclesiastes 9:4

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:11 | 5053654 p00k1e
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We've got less than a year left on the planet….  Keep the credit score clean just in case we live.  ;)  

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:19 | 5053693 Two Feet Studs Up
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Life always goes on, until you bleed out of every orafice. Then, you wonder why the fuck you didn't plan better for your family and kids.

All in all, you're just another brick in the wohl.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:20 | 5053706 Cloud9.5
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Nota, during hurricane season I monitor the weather underground for storm tracks.  If one is headed my way I board up windows, fill my gas drums, get out the lanterns and check on my food and water supplies.  I put my meds in a water tight container.  I bring the old folks to my place so I can look after them and I stay in close contact with the kids.  When they did hit in 04, I brought gasoline, food, water and generators to those in my family that were without power.  I passed out cold beer and food to my neighbors and kept a gun close at hand.  Nothing in my experience had prepared me for three storms one right after the other.  Still at the end of the day, sitting in total darkness with the windows open and no A.C., I knew the lights would be back on in a few days.  This is a little different.

 

As for nervous chatter, three days ago I was in sporting goods in Walmart and a guy buying a fishing license was talking about this outbreak and how serious it could get.  My son who is a corporate attorney for the airline industry called me night before last and asked me what we should do about it. I told him to follow his gut. I would prepare like we would if we expected a storm. So there is chatter out there even if you personally have not heard it.

 

I’m having the same problem everyone else is having.  I have no real way to assess the risk.  If this breaks bad then the guy who is already in the hills hiding out with his family will look like a genius. If it doesn’t those that break and run now will look like idiots and suffer serious damage in their finances and personal relationships.

 

I’m pretty much prepared for this storm season.  We generally have a month’s worth of food in the house all the time.  I still have a little of last year’s gas to burn and then I will refill one my drums. If it breaks out, I will fill all of them and buy a lot of rice and beans. Even if we die what we have will benefit the survivors.  If it passes, and we don’t need it then I will donate it to the local food bank.

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:39 | 5053808 HobbyFarmer
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If a virus wipes out the population (60% is the current death rate for those infected) there will be a lot of food in the fields and a lot of available resources.  This would actually be a better survival chance (after the catastrophe) because there would be the same amount of resources available with fewer alive to take it.

My 2 cents.  I'd rather survive this catastrophe than say yellowstone blowing.  After an event like yellowstone going, everybody would consume all available resources and then starvation would begin.

One final thought....for those thinking this was man-made.  If a man designed this virus, it would have a 60% kill-rate for other men, leaving women untouched.  Think about the lucky survivors of that pandemic....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:46 | 5054228 Enceladus
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Your application for the Illuminati NWO - Think Tank 2015 conclave is in the mail. As we say in the "City" I like the cut of your jib sir.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:19 | 5053419 hootowl
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Muscum will soon be using Ebola as a weapon of mass destruction/murder in our schools......Be sure of it!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:41 | 5053270 rsnoble
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A 50%-90% death rate and these stupid fucks are worried about 'ethical' reasons of using new drugs prematurely??  If those 2 survive in the US that were given the drug.......that's fucking good enough. Use the shit.

Also I read the US military(huge surprise) was considering Ebola in the 70's.  How much would one bet that this so-called miracle cure(if it works) was already on the shelf??

And now my conspiracy theory mind comes into play.......aren't there a lot of resources in Africa?

LOL and dumping bodies on the streets.  I wonder what it would be like to be a human with the intelligence of a dog??  I guess I could go to east St. Louis and ask a few of them.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:49 | 5053893 LFMayor
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you get a + at the very least for mentioning ESL.   Planet of the Shit-Flingin Apes.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:50 | 5054247 Matt
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Keep in mind the bats, pigs, deer, other animals can be carriers of Ebola, and who knows how it effects all of them. If the whole continent is exposed, just how would someone extract all those resources?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:48 | 5053282 Leraconteur
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All of this news is bad. Very bad.

-Bodies being dumped.

-People and relatives don't want to be near their dead relations.

-Mass graves at edge of city.

-Rumours of poisoned wells, groups taking advantage of the situation to settle scores.

-It's God's Wrath.

-Rumour, conjecture, and fear running amok.

Yeah, that's basically end game for them. Ticked off all the qualities of a pandemic causing societal breakdown.

No way it's only 887 dead with body dumps and mass graves.

Look at this progression::

He said the five confirmed Ebola patients are being treated in isolation in Lagos, sub-Saharan Africa's largest city with 21 million people.

The five with the disease had direct contact with Liberian-American Patrick Sawyer who was sick when he flew into Lagos and died five days later on July 25. Authorities are now following up with others who had contact with Sawyer to see if they are showing Ebola symptoms.

July 20, Patrick Sawyer Patient 0 infects at least 5.

August 5 they are being treated.

That 5 has already infected at least another 25 who had direct contact, and that 25>125 in the 16 days.

 


 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:18 | 5053421 IronShield
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-It's God's Wrath.

It's that kind of bull $hit that turns my stomach.  Pssstttt...  If there is a Deity, he doesn't give a $hit about you or the pettiness of wrath! 

Unless of course you forgot a /s tag; then, carry on.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:04 | 5055263 Leraconteur
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When people begin to blame God, that's not good -- in terms of how bad the pandemic is. 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:53 | 5053594 rsnoble
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Mass graves?? Is it that serious that we're being lied to again?  I wouldn't doubt it for a minute.

I'm surprised Officer Barbrady isn't on the news yet.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:57 | 5054296 Matt
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up to 21 day incubation, and supposedly not contagious prior to symptoms, but if this strain has different behavior, than it could be really different.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:46 | 5053286 TruthTalker
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stop spreading propaganda fear! 

Ebola Outbreak: Propaganda Decoded   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxUHe8v4Pw

 

THIS DR. SAYS THERE IS A SIMPLE CURE - SPREAD THAT!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7wNfRCuOZE

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:17 | 5053691 Chain Gun Smoke
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Ahh, the good old Forsythia. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:49 | 5053301 Peter Pan
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My eye sight must be improving even though I am getting older. I can see more black swans on the horizon than ever before.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:52 | 5053316 Leraconteur
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One of the stories quotes AFP as bodies floating in municipal lakes in Liberia, bodies laying in the street.

That would be it for Liberia. Bodies in the drinking water for days with a virus that can infect after the host dies.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:01 | 5053343 d edwards
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Wouldn't it make sense to cremate the bodies and destroy the virus? dumb asses.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:28 | 5053454 IridiumRebel
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This is Africa.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:35 | 5053480 lakecity55
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The new nation of Zomberia!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:28 | 5053753 trulz4lulz
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Bodies dumped in the streets(bring out yer dead!), bodies in mass graves, bodies floating in the lakes they use for drinking and cleaning......something isnt right about this. If I remember correctly wasnt the body dumping being conducted in Nigeria as well? I thought only 3 or 4 people have died there? I dont think this is going to be good at all in about 2 more weeks.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:41 | 5054529 Leraconteur
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...anyone recall this happening in real life? I cannot, not since reading tales of The Plague from 670 years ago.

It's the combination of bodies in streets, bodies floating unrecovered in drinking water reservoirs, family members abandoning loved ones and ignoring any and all local customs wrt the dead, mourning, burial, and grieving, that reveals this one as truly dangerous.

The abandonment of local social norms regarding dead relatives, regardless of what those norms would be, is chilling.

That is, without exaggeration, what you do when you abandon civilisation as you practice it. Caring for the dead was one of the first things humans did 80,000 years ago when we stepped out of the Pleistocene.

Time will tell, and there is little more to do than prep and hope this does not get legs.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:26 | 5054743 Enceladus
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1918 october. USA

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:56 | 5053325 SheepDog-One
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'Gawd did it!'.....Trollololol

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:57 | 5053328 world_debt_slave
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a pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM_9XlZ9qpA

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:04 | 5053354 22winmag
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The sooner this stupid scare dies of the better.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:12 | 5053389 hootowl
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With just one stupid mistake by some medical dumbell and it will quickly become more than a scare.

Ovomit and his demoniacs will soon offer refugee status to all Africans with Ebola and send them leaflets telling them all they have to do is go to Mexico and jump a train to Texas.  They will be welcomed with open arms, and Texas will soon be no longer a GOP threat to the Demoncraps in national elections due to an "unexpected" decline in population.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:04 | 5053356 esum
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we will see shortly EBOLA is controllable and CURABLE... Reynolds tobacco and MapPharma gave the drug to the dr who walked into the Atlanta hosp. It is a tobacco derivative... so lightem if you got em.... 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:05 | 5053357 aleph0
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Ebola Outbreak: Propaganda Decoded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxUHe8v4Pw

Measles & Flu  ... far more contagious.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:14 | 5053671 Citxmech
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Measles and Flu don't have a death rate of 50-90%

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:46 | 5054226 aleph0
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Contagion & Death Rate are two different things.

Ebola is not as geographically contagious BECAUSE of the high death rate - despite also being NON-Airborn.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:51 | 5054248 dizzyfingers
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"despite also being NON-Airborn"

Ebola's propensity to mutate may mean there already is an airborne type; lab experiments with monkeys and pigs prove that it can happen.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:44 | 5054217 dizzyfingers
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"Measles & Flu  ... far more contagious."

Measles and flu don't kill most of their hosts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:33 | 5055089 Citxmech
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Just to put things into perspective, the 1918 Spanish Flu had a death rate of less than 3%.  In other words, this strain of Ebola's death rate could become attenuated by 90% and it would still be more deadly than the Spanish Flu was.

Another thing to keep in mind is that epidemiologists do not have enough experience with Ebola outbreaks in urban environments to quantify what might happen as the disease spreads in dense communities.  It could mutate to a less deadly form, become less virulent, mutate into a more easily transmitted form - or move into other vectors - such as pigs.  That pig/macaque experiment should have everybody a bit nervous (Apparently, pigs can transmit the disease via air, yet the infected hosts do not - nobody knows why/how as of yet).   This outbreak is potentially a very big deal. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:10 | 5053378 observer007
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A Saudi national, who fell ill after returning from Sierra Leone, died early Wednesday in his hospital isolation ward where he was being tested for the Ebola virus, said the Saudi Health Ministry.

 

Latest EBOLA NEWS here:

http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:12 | 5053383 yogibear
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Coming to you throughout US cities.
The 21st century version of the middle ages black death.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:13 | 5053395 Ban KKiller
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What's the over, under in Africa? I'll take the over for a zillion in FRNs.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:13 | 5053396 himaroid
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The old ads were right. Tobacco is healthy!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:24 | 5053440 CHX
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The "healthy" is debatable, but at least the average (chain) smoker usually feels pretty good about it in any regular 2-21 days period... 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:47 | 5053876 TabakLover
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Ahhh tobacco.  The truth is, way, way, way more people have found enjoyment/pleasure/solace in that weed in the last 600 years than were killed by it.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:15 | 5053407 Ban KKiller
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What's the over, under in Africa? I'll take the over for a zillion in FRNs.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:17 | 5053411 Quinvarius
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I hope that last headline is a joke.  Because BofAML doesn't need to creating a financial derivative product that involves Ebola growth predictions.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:27 | 5053448 IronShield
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Now where's our resident MD/PhD Infectious Disease specialist?  Hopefully on a plane bound for Africa to investigate this apparent hoax of an epidemic.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:29 | 5053455 Peter Pan
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What we need to realise is that if the ebola reality/scare leads to borders closing, then the grounding of airlines alone will unleash an economic tsuami of untold proportions given the massive debt they carry and the hundres of thousands of employees and associated insutries such as catering etc.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:13 | 5053669 Seek_Truth
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Good point, Peter, I hadn't thought of that.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:31 | 5053463 ChiefToledo
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Malaria killed 620,000 in 2013.
http://www.who.int/features/factfiles/malaria/en/

Rwandan genocide over a half million in 3 months
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Ebola has killed less than 1000 in the most undeveloped parts of Africa (read: most unsanitary shitholes in the world). I must admit I am not really strokin out about this "pandemic". If you have never been to Freetown or Monrovia hit up google earth and take a look what kind of garden spots these places are.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:36 | 5053481 mastersnark
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Knock it off with your facts. Here on ZH, every disease is a black swan pandemic just because.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:49 | 5053569 moonman
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In 10 weeks you have managed to totally uncover the ZH propoganda?

Go back to Yahoo Finance

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:04 | 5053629 mastersnark
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Thanks for proving my point.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:04 | 5053631 T-NUTZ
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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."  Albert Allen Bartlett

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:38 | 5053825 silentboom
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You forget that scaremongering is useful in the "border debate".

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:58 | 5053948 Things that go bump
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Seek-Truth commented yesterday that the infection and death rate are increasing by 177% every month, and that's just the the cases they know about. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/troops-deployed-west-africa-ebo.... He estimated that at that rate of infection and mortality there would be 3,412,196 deaths by August 2015. By August 2016 there would be 3,226,545,501 deaths. By September 2016 there would be 5,710,985,686 cummunlative deaths. This is just a simple math exercise. So, if containment has failed, if Ebola has become more easily transmissable, if no vaccine or or treatment is developed, by this time 2 years from now most of us will be dead, I doubt it will take that long. I think infection is probably more like a bell curve than a linear progression. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:23 | 5054096 ChiefToledo
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This isn't the first Ebola outbreak. They had them when I worked in Africa 10 years ago, and I have to believe they couldn't contain it any better then they could now. Of course with all the crazy shit going on in the world today, it might be a handy distraction. Ebola would have been a pandemic years ago it it was truly worthy. That is, Unless the virus severely mutated, which is possible.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:20 | 5054414 Matt
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Africa has gotten a lot more money per person and more travel since then, both between countries and to other continents. That is part of why it is spreading to countries that have never experienced Ebola before. More population, more density.

Lots of reasons this is worse, and if the local wildlife gets it in new countries from all the piles of bodies oozing away in the streets, and it is not as deadly to some animals, it could lead to more and worse outbreaks in the future, and new opportunities for the virus to adapt and mutate.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:31 | 5053465 lakecity55
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What if we sacrifice a Chief Backdoor Man like the Bath House?

Would that mollify God for at least a while?

Otherwise, we may face nuke fire from above!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:33 | 5053471 mastersnark
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Neat coincidence a "promising" ebola drug surfaces after White medical personnel get infected.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:22 | 5054424 Matt
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USAMRIID has been investing in treatments and vaccines since at least 2010, probably as part of the expansion of AFRICOM.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:34 | 5053479 uno
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so many us offshore oil workers in nigeria and angola, every few weeks transferring planes probably through Lagos, and working/eating/etc all day for weeks with the locals.  But the CDC says no problem.  Then add in the stand down for the border.  Will be an interesting end of the year.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:40 | 5053511 yogibear
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We all know how the other viruses in the US. Ebola will be the same in the US.

AIDS was kept quiet until it started showing up in numbers. Ebola will be the same. 

Normal US hospitals and physicians will be ill-equipped to handle the escalating Ebola  cases.

Poor sanitation in bars and elsewhere will spread the disease. 

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:17 | 5053688 Seek_Truth
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Indeed. The CDC hasn't released statistics on MRSA since 2005.

Why?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:42 | 5053522 p00k1e
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Frankly, Ebola is a rerun.

Narrator: The fall of 1918 was a time of horror, a time to forget, but some would always remember.

Narrator: Folk remedies might have been wrong, but doctors were just as helpless.

Carla Morrissey: They absolutely didn’t know what to do for treatment of these patients. The ambulances would arrive in the morning, the drivers would bring in four living patients, but the nurses would go ahead and wrap these patients in the winding sheets and they would put toe tags on the boys before they were even dead.

Narrator: One doctor told a patient’s wife: “This is my 25th case. And I’ve lost the first 24.”

A 12-year-old boy was told by his doctor: “Get on the waiting list for a casket.”

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/transcript/influenza...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:45 | 5053547 Comte d'herblay
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As long as it's not me, Brooklyn Decker, my pet goldfish, Sushi, and the doctor who dispenses my meds, I wouldn't mind if the world lost a coupla billion human beans, all of whom simply convert Oxygen to Co2. 

It wouldn't be anything but humanitarily beneficial if the Jewish Mafia on Wall Street were among the collateral damage, as well as the FED, Treasury, and NAMBLA members. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:55 | 5053930 TweedleDeeDooDah
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So your job as a regulator would be easy, and you'd have all the young boys to yourself?

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:46 | 5053550 notadouche
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Haven't we seen a mad dash by the "Super Powers" (Not to be confused with the Super Friends) over the last few years to secure African natural resources?  No one even remotely suspicious of these reports?   Do we just automatically assume that the inhabitants of this area would act in such a way?  How would we know what the truth is.   We automatically believe these stories yet when we view all MSM reports concerning our own business we at the very least view with a juandiced eye.  

How do we really know they are dumping bodies in the streets?  Assuming the dead person didn't die in the street why would we assume that anyone would take the time to gather up an Ebola victim from their place of death and go out of their way to dump the body in the street.  That doesn't make sense.  

If this happened in a "Western" country would we automatically believe these kinds of stories?  It may or may not be true but it seems to me this kind of reporting and the taking at face value taps right into some racist notions.  Not trying to play the race card but why would we assume these folks have no dignity?  Running amok in total panic?  

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:36 | 5053817 bbq on whitehou...
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They are dumping bodies to avoid quarintine, a lock down for weeks without food or water.
They have no choice but to remove their loved ones into the street or face death themselves.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:34 | 5054497 Leraconteur
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...anyone ever remember something like that happening in the past 100 years? Me neither. This is what people did 1346-1353.

The WHO figures and .Gov figures won't matter much, if they lie and hide, because actions, border crossings, air travel, ports, shipping, military presence, and other metrices will reveal what is going on no matter how low the daily death figures are that the .Gov prints.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:03 | 5054627 notadouche
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How are they dumping bodies in the streets AND avoiding exposure of Ebola at the same time?   Are the family members wearing hazmat suits?   It would seem to me that dumping an Ebola victim's body would ensure being quarintined. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:09 | 5055287 SilverRhino
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Right, because everyone in Lagos carries ID and the government has a complete up to date list of everyone's fingerprints cross-referenced to family members.

Now consider this, a body just died of ebola with ZERO identification on it.    Do you want to be the guy that has to fingerprint a dead body that can kill you?  Or would you just tell the body handlers to burn it?    Africans are not exactly known for their altruistic sense of duty. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:52 | 5053917 TweedleDeeDooDah
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How do we even know it's "Ebola"?

I don't know what you mean by "race card" in this matter... during plagues, outbreaks and epidemics, pretty much ALL peoples treat the afflicted (even only a few years ago, in late 20th C USA - AIDS, anyone?) the same. It's an evolved psychological response involving fear, ostracization, and survival.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:46 | 5053554 q99x2
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Thank God I didn't wake up too late to get my morning dose of Ebola.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:47 | 5053555 dearth vader
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Poor Italy will have to check every African they fish from the Mediterranean - or will they stop fishing?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:50 | 5053573 Skip
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Worth reading the entire article at link:
http://www.vdare.com/articles/immigrations-human-dirty-bomb-a-weapon-of-...
Immigration’s Human Dirty Bomb—A Weapon of Mass Diversity
By Thomas Martel on August 5, 2014

Congressman Todd Rokita (R-IN) is on the receiving end of a typical Main Stream Media Two Minute Hate for mildly suggesting that, with the Obama Regime’s border nullification and “Ebola circulating,” we need to “know the condition of these kids” that are being put in American homes. [Congressional Republican Says Central American Immigration Children Could Spread Ebola, by Ben Mathis-Lilley, Slate, August 5, 2014] But if anything, Rokita understating the danger: current immigration policy is in effect a human dirty bomb.

A dirty bomb is a standard explosive laced with radioactive material. Up until now, we’ve avoided a terrorist dirty bomb. But the human dirty bomb seems unstoppable. By combining mass immigration with disease, to say nothing of social pathologies like out of wedlock birth, ignorance, and Hispanic supremacism, the immigration we’re suffering through now is (to adapt Iraq War terminology) a Weapon of Mass Diversity.

The contents of the human dirty bomb are quite nasty: As if the massive welfare state, one-party politics, genital mutilation, and Hate Crimes were not enough, we now have a few new benefits of diversity in the form of communicable diseases. In fact, taxpayers are now getting the privilege of footing the bill for diseased illegal aliens to travel and reunite with family.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:19 | 5053699 Seek_Truth
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Doin' it for the children.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:10 | 5054008 IridiumRebel
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Cuz the children, los hijos, will be doin' it to us....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:51 | 5053578 q99x2
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Have you considered the CIA Banksters and the NWO instead of God and cocksuckers.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:30 | 5053776 corporatewhore
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any hurricanes headed their way?

Has Pat Robertson had any more conversations/revelations with/from God?

 

Phony religious leaders more interested in money and power than anything else.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:51 | 5053582 luckystars
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Sauidi dies thought to be from ebola.

Lebanon closes its borders for ebola

Pilgrims enter the haj in masks and protective gear.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/topics/health

Liberia blames ebola on homosexualisim

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/06/god-is-angr...

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:35 | 5054175 edifice
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The people of the Moon Prophet can't die from Eeeeebolaaaaa. Afterall, "A-la Guac Bar".

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:54 | 5053593 Cthonic
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Instantaneous infection rate (smoothed over three data releases) is now:

06 Aug 14 - 55/day

04 Aug 14 - 57/day

02 Aug 14 - 43/day

29 Jul 14 - 38/day

27 Jul 14 - 23/day

23 Jul 14 - 12/day

17 Jul 14 - 10/day

(Date above is day WHO statistics were posted, e.g 02 Aug is compiled data as of 30 Jul).

http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:10 | 5054010 hoist the bs flag
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chart that shit...it looks exponential  from here

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:37 | 5054186 Seek_Truth
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Here are the results at average rate of increase based on this data set:

August 2015: 3.4 million deaths (cumulative)

August 2016: 3.2 billion deaths (cumulative)

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:27 | 5054452 markam
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If it increaes exponentially (as the data shows since July 17), we would be seeing over 1300 cases/day in 30 days, 28,000 cases/day in 60 days, and almost 600,000 cases/day in 90 days.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:59 | 5053620 stateside
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There will be ZERO reported cases of ebola in NY City until it is too late.  Tourism is too big to "scare" people away with facts.  

 

stateside

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:26 | 5053740 hangemhigh77
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Oboner should go golfing in west Africa.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:32 | 5053790 trulz4lulz
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Why? He is bringing West Afrians here to go golfing with.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:42 | 5053846 IndyPat
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..."IV ozone will take out any virus...."

So will napalm.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:36 | 5053807 silentboom
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I'm going to wait to buy the Ebola 2.0, it will have better features.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:37 | 5053828 luckystars
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:53 | 5053921 LFMayor
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Now I have TWO reasons to like them
1)  They kill LOTS of muslims.
2)  They like obama about as much as I do.

Next stop:  hat trick

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:59 | 5053949 himaroid
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Ditto Putin.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:42 | 5053840 BrokusDickusMaximus
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On this date 69 years ago we detonated an Atomic Bomb to lessen war casualties in the taking of the Japanese Islands. We have brought an infectious disease to our shores to treat a couple of people who tried to help a less fortunate country. I forsee a vaccination campaign to rival "Swine Flu" and shingles and a myriad of other diseases to get the people infected. It is only a matter of time and time is running out. Events will happen sooner and with more devistating effect. It's  all part of the plan.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:50 | 5053898 BrokusDickusMaximus
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What if the plan is to infect all of poor Africa to decimate the local population and thereby make the resources more readily available to the greedy Corporations? Qui Bono? Who stands to profit from this vast and wealthy Continent of vital resources that drive our economy. China has been making advances all over Africa.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:35 | 5054501 Matt
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Do you think the virus will simply vanish once the people are gone? I'm fairly certain it will stay dormant in the ground and water, not to mention in the wildlife.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:26 | 5054043 WillyGroper
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I saw that last night. What really got my attention was the screen behind him. 

It's about water & complete domination of life itself. That's why we're being barmbarded w/chemtrails.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:25 | 5054119 WillyGroper
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I'm wondering how many of the cavity searching brown shirted goons are going to be a little less aggressive in their work now?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:27 | 5054132 IridiumRebel
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Proclaim how wonderful it is to have escaped Freetown as you pass them and then cough violently towards them....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:10 | 5055291 nidaar
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No reason to be optimistic. Proly they'll start using a long stick instead of fingers...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:31 | 5054148 dirty belly
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THIS JUST IN:

 

Tuesday, August 5, 2014

Short Planetary Situation Update

 

Behind the scenes, clearing of the Chimera group continues. We have now reached the stage when only the core of the Chimera group remains, and clearing that core group is now the main challenge.

 

Global plasma scalar mind control network is tied to strangelet bombs and this is why its removal takes so much time. 
The etheric Archon grid is the final stage of dissolution and the power of the Archons diminishing rapidly, leaving the Chimera group as the main controllers of quarantine Earth and their plasma scalar network as the main tool of psychological programming. 

The Cabal is now engineering events (plane crashes, Ebola scare) and hyping them through the mass media to keep human masses in the state of fear. They will NOT be able to use Ebola as an excuse to install martial law. They know the breakthrough of Light is near and they still want to do whatever they can to postpone it.

The Chimera (the force behind the technologically advanced negative military, focused on maintaining the quarantine Earth status) and the Archons (black nobility families behind the Jesuits, focused on keeping humanity as religion-programmed slaves in reincarnation cycle) are still at the top of the food chain. The Rothschild faction (Zionist controllers of the mass media and accountants of the global financial system) and the Illuminazi faction (Paperclip-imported crime syndicate) are their subordinates. 
All this structure will fall apart when the exotic weapons of the Chimera group are removed and therefore their mechanisms of planetary control dissolved.
This is the main condition for the Event to happen. 
Despite all appearances, victory of the Light is near. 

 

http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/2014/08/short-planetary-situation-update.html

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:45 | 5054225 LFMayor
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either you're one hell of a steam-punk author or you've hung too many vinegar soaked washcloths up to combat the contrails, friend.

now, who in the hell gave this guy chocolate?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:07 | 5054647 dirty belly
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Vinegar is one of the most underrated remedies in the world. It is used by people as a cleanser, and medicine. you can use vinegar to clean your windows, stain remover, chewing gum dissolver. It can also be used in an enema solution to increase the acidity in the colon. The PH factor in the colon and small intestine need to stay in the optimum range to function correctly. When the urinary pH is between 6.5 in the a.m. and 7.5 in the evening, your body is functioning in a healthy range.
6.5 being alkaline, 7.5 being acidic. Apple Cider Vinegar has been  used as a successful remedy for a number of ailments, including a method of dissolving internal stones in horses.   Humans tend to abuse their bodies under some strange theory that we are invincible, allowing  huge amounts of waste matter  to accumulate within the system.  Occasionally the body could do with some help.
 Apple cider vinegar contains over forty vitamins and minerals.  It releases toxins from the liver and gallbladder and has helped, people with high blood pressure, and many other problems. Other ailments helped by consuming apple cider vinegar are people with high cholesterol, insomnia and fatigue, liver and kidney problems, asthma, plus many more.  After prescription pharmaceuticals entered the world, people tend to forget about alternative healing methods that can help cure or reduce the aches and pains that we spend thousands of dollars on daily. In enemas, try to hold the vinegar and water mixture about 5 or 10 minutes before releasing it.. This will allow for greater absorption in the colon.

http://www.enema-health.com/apple-cider-vinegar-enema.htm

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:12 | 5054675 dirty belly
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http://heddwynessentials.com/ooo/index.php?page=healthrangerspecial

Oregano oil has proven itself in lab testing against the "germs" that cause common illnesses. Even antibiotic resistant mutant bacterial strains have no defense against Oregano oil.

Proven properties of Oregano oil:

Immune modulator

Antibacterial

Antifungal

Antiviral

Anti-parasitic

Anti-carcinogenic

Antioxidant

Antivenom

Analgesic

Expectorant

Antimutagenic

Antiplaque

Anti-inflammatory

Antirheumatic

Anti-toxic

Digestive

and more!

 

Internal use:
  • Improving immune function
  • Acne, allergies, asthma
  • Arthritis
  • Autoimmune disorders
  • Bad breath, bronchitis
  • Bladder infections
  • Candida infections
  • Bloating
  • Colds, cough
  • Childhood diseases
  • Colitis, Crohn's
  • Dengue fever
  • Eczema, earache
  • Fatigue, food poisoning, flu
  • Gastritis, gallbladder
  • Headache, hepatitis, herpes
  • Indigestion, irritable bowel
  • Kidney infection
  • Pneumonia, psoriasis, parasites
  • Prostate disorders
  • Sinusitis, sore throat, stomach ulcers
  • Urinary tract infections and more.
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:01 | 5056104 Seeing Red
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Oregano oil is great for getting rid of bad bacteria in the gut.  However, for viruses, I have had excellent results with Sambucol, which is just black elderberry extract.  It has a good rep as an immune system booster.  Sore throat usually gone in a few hours.

EDIT:  Oh, and for UTI, check out D-Mannose powder.  It's a mostly indigestible sugar that UTI bacteria latch onto and get expelled (won't hurt good bacteria like some antibiotics do).

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:24 | 5055032 dirty belly
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Thanks 'friend'!  I'll be sure not to judge you too harshly. 

Remember:

Those that danced were thought to be quite insane by those that could not hear the music.

Now see these:

those that judge others

https://www.google.com/search?q=those+that+judge+others&client=firefox-a...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:32 | 5054158 marcusfenix
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at this point what do we really know, how accurate is the data and hard facts that are available to us?

common sense tells the that any government, anywhere is going to do whatever it can to downplay, hide, repress and delay as much information as possible the true severity or possibility of  such an out break. that's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff either, for example does anybody here remember reading a press release or a DOH statement about individuals being quarantined and shipped to the nearest CDC containment center after being admitted to the emergency room, halving tests run and the results showing they had something very nasty and highly contagious?

how about this week? over the last six months? the last year?

no?  well it happens every day hear in the US somebody, somewhere has some exotic virus or bacterial infection that earns them a ticked to iso. these incidents are kept strictly confidential and we never hear about them. you see that's at least part of the point and purpose behind HIPPI to help ensure that peace and domestic tranquility the Constitution charges the federal government with maintaining. it's only when something simply becomes to big to ignore that we start hearing about it.

ebola is special, different and more sensational than say N1H1 or any other strain of influenza because of it's mortality rate and the way it kills it's victims. if you contract this chances are you will die and die badly. so while it's true that the flu kills more people every year than this current elola out break has (that we know of) there is a false sense of security in that because while influenza can travel the globe, infect millions and yet only kill a small percent of those who catch it, ebola if it becomes a pandemic could infect fewer people and yet yield a much much higher mortality rate. if this were known to be present in a place like NYC...

another meme that is going around that also breeds a false sense of security here in the US with regards to the possibility of ebola making an appearance is the common refrain that west Africa is such a dirty place with such poor health conditions that's it's no wonder that they are getting slammed so hard.

in essence because we are cleaner and more civilized with lots more ipads we are immune to such a thing happening here. this reasoning is in no way based in any kind of reality and is sadly and simply not true.

why?

when people point to west Africa's poor health conditions they are looking at things from a very Americentric or Eurocentric point of view where there is a hospital or fast trac health clinic on practically every street corner, an ambulance ride only a phone cal away 24/7 and the prescription meds flow like candy. but does all that make us healthier, more vibrant and able to fight off a virus that kills you from the inside out? of course not whether you are west African or American it will kill you just the same. in some way those in west Aferica are probably healthier than us, they aren't addicted to prescription synthetic medications that merely mask symptoms, they don't eat food that is highly processed, laced with chemicals produced in a lab and grown from genetically modified seeds or injected with synthetic growth hormones.it is ignorance to assume that just because we can roll over to wal mart or cost co to fill a prescription get diet pills and diet soda all in one place means that we are healthier than anybody else.

ah, but it's the sanitation conditions that's killing them and going to save us right? 

not really, poor sanitation is connected to the spread of bacterial and not viral infections, remember how bad west Africa got slammed by swine flu back in 08? remember how they got it so much worse than anybody else?

no? my point exactly.

a virus will spread wherever there are new hosts to infect regardless of  how expensive your close are, what version ipad you own, how close the nearest hospital is or what the GDP of the country you live in is. NCY is the perfect set up, the perfect situation and place for ebola to make it;s presence felt here in the US.

if it does happen will we even know? probably not, at least not right away and as the media blackout over the Mt. Sinai case continues it's starting to look more and more like it already has arrived.                        

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:23 | 5054437 IridiumRebel
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"they don't eat food that is highly processed, laced with chemicals produced in a lab and grown from genetically modified seeds or injected with synthetic growth hormones."

 

 

You make fruit bat sound pretty tasty...Great comment. I have many friends in a major ER there. I will let everyone know of any changes in circumstances.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:54 | 5054281 nosuchnick
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Now we finally have a disease able to exterminate the human race before the human race do it

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:59 | 5054298 Lea
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There have been no Ebola victims repatriated to the USA. There is no "super-secret miracle serum" (that one sounds particularly like a Hollywood bad script). It's all a propaganda effort on Obama's behalf to look like a saviour who:

1) doesn't heed the backward warnings of the know-nothing, heartless right-wingers who don't want Ebola on American soil.

2) wins the game, since his two "repatriated Ebola victims" will be hale and hearty.

But then, I wonder: how is he going to manage the fact there is no more of his "miracle serum"? Already, they are arguing they have "very little of it" (that figures, as it's non-existent). But then, if there's still "too little of it to cure anyone" in a month's time (when they should be producing it day and night), what's he going to say? Maybe he counts on the short attention span of his audience and hope they will be on to something else, instead of harassing him with dumb questions like "so, where's your miracle serum for the real Ebola victims out there"?

How will it benefit him if it turns out the miracle cure never shows up?

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:13 | 5054374 teslaberry
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isn't it obvious what the solution is for ebola?

 

world war 3. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:16 | 5054987 mkhs
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"Nuke them from orbit.  It is the only way to be sure."

Ripley

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:01 | 5055257 janmayen
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Well, no news from Mt.Sinai? 

Both columbus and london were able to communicate the results in 24 hours, and I assume that they have repeated the test  at least a second time for confirmation...

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 03:38 | 5057783 onmail
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How Russia can fight America without nukes?

Take some Ebola infected water and spread it all across America.

Simple.

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