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As Obama Launches Another Iraq Assault, Here Is An Undercover Look Inside ISIS

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/10/2014 10:53 -0400

While the biggest geopolitical news of the past week was Obama's announcement he would become only the fourth president in a row to order military action in Iraq, explicitly targeting the ISIS jihadists, the far bigger question are the developments that spurred the administration to finally act.

The NYT reports that "as the tension mounted in Washington" the catalyst for Obama's decision was sudden developments surrounding the Kurdistan capital, Erbil. "Kurdish forces who had been fighting the militants in three nearby Christian villages abruptly fell back toward the gates of the city, fanning fears that the city might soon fall. By Thursday morning, people were thronging the airport, desperate for flights out of town. "The situation near Erbil was becoming more dire than anyone expected," said a senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the White House’s internal deliberations. “We didn’t want another Benghazi."

The reason for this is that the US has an embassy in Erbil: that falling to ISIS would be the supreme punch in the gut for an administration whose foreign policy has become the butt of all global jokes. What's worse, now that ISIS had taken control of a critical dam in Mosul (which as we reported earlier controls water levels on the Tigris levels as far as Baghdad, and whose capture "shook Kurdish officials and fueled the sense of crisis" as it gave ISIS all of the leverage) the US embassy could be flooded should ISIS blow up the dam in question.

In other words, Obama merely took to arms after the threat of another massive foreign humiliation became all too real and when the reality that the Kurdish defense was about to fall. Of course, the actual stated reason for intervention was different, a far more noble one.

At a 90-minute meeting in the Situation Room on Thursday morning, Mr. Obama was briefed again about the plight of the Iraqis stranded on Mount Sinjar. Members of an ancient religious sect known as Yazidi, they were branded as devil worshipers by the militants. The women were to be enslaved; the men were to be slaughtered.

Officials told Mr. Obama there was a real danger of genocide, under the legal definition of the term. “While we have faced difficult humanitarian challenges, this was in a different category,” said an official. “That kind of shakes you up, gets your attention.”

At 11:20 a.m., Mr. Obama left the meeting to travel to Fort Belvoir, Va., where he signed a bill expanding health care for veterans. He had all but made up his mind to authorize airstrikes, officials said, and while he was away, his team drafted specific military options.

When the president returned to the White House barely an hour later, he went back into meetings with his staff. By then, there were news reports of airdrops and possible strikes. But the White House “hunkered down,” an official said, refusing to comment on the reports for fear of endangering a nighttime airdrop over Mount Sinjar.

Mr. Obama did not announce the operations until dawn had broken in Iraq, a delay of several hours that added to the panic in Erbil. Reports of explosions near the city at dusk on Thursday night sowed confusion after Kurdish officials said the United States had begun airstrikes on the militants. The Pentagon flatly denied the reports.

The rest is now well-known (the full breakdown can be found here), and culminated with Obama's Thursday announcement as well as the immediate launch of bombing raids on ISIS militants.

Here is the most recent Iraq situation report courtesy of the Institute for the Study of War.

Within the past 24 hours, ISIS seized Mosul Dam. This capture provides ISIS strategic advantage over the Iraqi state. The dam's collapse would severely damage vast areas of the country where ISIS seeks to achieve military victory but has encountered heavy resistance. Also, ISIS now controls electricity production to Mosul and the group extends its claimed territory farther north. ISIS continues to fight the Peshmerga in Makhmour, south of Mosul and the IA in Dhuluiya, north of Baghdad. Although the United States conducted two rounds of targeted airstrikes against ISIS held territory outside of Arbil and Mosul, it remains too early to determine whether or not the group will adjust its military strategy. ISIS is likely hardening territorial boundaries for the Islamic Caliphate east of Mosul, but ISW assess ISIS will not attempt to seize Erbil. Still, fear of an ISIS attack on Erbil has peaked.

So now that the attention is once again back to ISIS, whose dramatic success in forming the caliphate was lost to the world following the return of hostilities in Ukraine and the escalation of the second Cold War, here are, courtesy of Vice News, the first two parts of a series looking at life in the Islamic State caliphate. Vice News reporter Medyan Dairieh spent three weeks embedded with the Islamic State, gaining access to the group in Iraq and Syria as the first and only journalist to document its inner workings.

In part 1, Dairieh heads to the frontline in Raqqa, where Islamic State fighters are laying siege to the Syrian Army’s division 17 base.

In Part 2 filmmaker Medyan Dairieh meets an Islamic State member from Belgium who works to indoctrinate some of the youngest members of the group. He also gains further insight into the minds of Islamic State fighters as they host celebrations and military parades featuring American tanks and APCs seized from the Iraqi army.

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Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:29 | 5071016 Seek_Truth

It wasn't just muslims, there were other Middle Easterners who did the exact same things:

The gods the ISRAELITES worshipped: Remphan, Chiun, Saturn, Satan, Molech, Chemosh, Ashtoreth, Ishtar, Tammuz, Asherah, Baal of Peor, Baal-Berith , Baal-Zebub (Beelzebub) and other Baals. (Acts 7:43; 1 Kings 11:5,7; Ezekiel 8:14; Numbers 25:3,5; Deuteronomy 4:3; Judges 2:11,13; Judges 3:7; Judges 6:25,28, 30; Judges 8:33; Judges 9:4; Judges 10:6,10; 1 Kings 16:31,32; 1 Kings 18:18-26; 1 Kings 22:53; 2 Kings 1:2,3,6,16; 2 Kings 17:16; 2 Kings 21:3; - 2 Chronicles 28:2; 2 Chronicles 33:3, Psalm 106:28; Jeremiah 2:8; Jeremiah 7:8-10; Jeremiah 9:14; Jeremiah 11:13,17; Jeremiah 19:5; Jeremiah 23:13; Jeremiah 32:29,35; Hosea 2:8,13,17; Hosea 9:10; Hosea 11:2; Hosea 13:1; Zephaniah 1:4 )

The Israelites did all those things you describe- yes, the Israelites, the Jews. You know- the ones that God rejected.

Those jews.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:44 | 5071233 Jumbotron

Some Israelites DID indeed do those things and worship those gods. But it was because a number of them rejected Jehovah for the indigenous god of the pagan land. They liked that Babylonian or Arabian or Philistine or Persian god and that booty on that pagan woman.

But those pagan gods and thost pagan people were there first. Those Jews along with the pagan Middle Easterners are now maggot food and forgotten in the sands of time. The Jews have not been rejected. Only those who rejected God.

However.....the pagan Middle Easterners whose ancestors now worship the blood god Allah.......yep.....nothing has changed there. Still at war with the world and their brother. Still shedding the blood of the innocent to a blood god. The names of the gods have changed. So has the sex. But still a people who worship a blood god. A people of the sword.

Barbarians. Nothing more.....nothing less. And the world will continue to shit on the barbarians until they have had enough or they have a Reformation like all religions who have shed their bloody sectarian past.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:29 | 5071354 Seek_Truth

The Bible makes it clear that God rejected Israel and Judah:

So the Lord was very angry with Israel and removed them from his presence. Only the tribe of Judah was left, and even Judah did not keep the commands of the Lord their God. They followed the practices Israel had introduced. Therefore the Lord rejected all the people of Israel; he afflicted them and gave them into the hands of plunderers, until he thrust them from his presence. – 2 Kings 17:18-20

They are called rejected silver, because the Lord has rejected them. – Jeremiah 6:13

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. – Hosea 4:6

then I will uproot Israel from my land, which I have given them, and will reject this temple I have consecrated for my Name. – 2 Chronicles 7:20

Then the LORD said to me: "Even if Moses and Samuel were to stand before me, my heart would not go out to this people. Send them away from my presence! Let them go! - Jeremiah 15:1

Rejected means rejected.

Only one way, one truth, one life: Jesus Christ.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 21:33 | 5071503 Jumbotron

"Only one way, one truth, one life: Jesus Christ."

The Lion of Judah.

The King of the Jews.

The Son of King David.

Revelation Ch 7 and 14

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. ²Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: ³“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” ⁴Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

⁵From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

⁶from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

⁷from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

⁸from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

14 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. ²And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. ³And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. ⁴These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. ⁵No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

You're a liar, born from the Father of Lies. Get rid of your Replacement Theology before it's too late for your immortal soul.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:38 | 5071655 Seek_Truth

Ain't no replacement theology here- as I have pointed out numerous times.

You say that Jesus Christ is a liar, because you say there are TWO ways to salvation, Jesus said there is only ONE.

You also deny the fact that Jesus' blood ALONE paid the price for sin- the sin of Jew and Gentile.

You therefore deny that Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah- because if He did not ransom all humankind- Jew and Gentile- then He was not the Messiah. That makes you the antichrist.

As for the 12 tribes of Israel, those in Revelation are figurative- just as the term "Israelites" is- it refers to ALL CHRISTIANS who have put faith in Jesus Christ- Jew and Gentile.

How do we know the 144,00 is figurative?

FIRST CLUE THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

The tribes mentioned in the list in Revelation are not the 12 tribes listed in Numbers chapter 1:

One man from each tribe, each of them the head of his family, is to help you. ⁵These are the names of the men who are to assist you:

from Reuben, Elizur son of Shedeur;

⁶from Simeon, Shelumiel son of Zurishaddai;

⁷from Judah, Nahshon son of Amminadab;

⁸from Issachar, Nethanel son of Zuar;

⁹from Zebulun, Eliab son of Helon;

¹⁰from the sons of Joseph:

from Ephraim, Elishama son of Ammihud;

from Manasseh, Gamaliel son of Pedahzur;

¹¹from Benjamin, Abidan son of Gideoni;

¹²from Dan, Ahiezer son of Ammishaddai;

¹³from Asher, Pagiel son of Okran;

¹⁴from Gad, Eliasaph son of Deuel;

¹⁵from Naphtali, Ahira son of Enan.”

See, Dan is deleted, Ephraim is replaced with Joseph, and Levi added.

SECOND CLUE THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” -Revelation 7:3 (Same Chapter, 7)

The seal of God will not be literal, the verses that follow therefore are not to be interpreted literally.

THIRD CLUE THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

Verse 14 of Chapter 7:

“These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Again- figurative- washing in blood does not make robes white! The white here symbolizes the purity of the blood of Jesus (which you, by the way, reject, and say the Jews have another path to salvation).

FOURTH CLUE THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

Now consider the preceding chapter of Revelation- are the Seven Seals literal seals on a literal scroll? How about the "horses" that the four horsemen ride on? Are the "horsemen" literal men riding on horses?

FIFTH CLUE THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

In Rev 6:6- “Two pounds^[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,^[b] and six pounds^[c] of barley for a day’s wages,^[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!” Is THAT literal? Will we get TWO pounds of WHEAT for a day's wages, not 5 lbs or 1 lb depending on circumstances? Same for the barley? The olive oil?

INFINITELY MORE CLUES THIS IS NOT LITERAL:

Further, how about the Beast out of the Sea? The Beast out of the Earth? the "woman"? Babylon the Great? Etc, etc, etc.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT REVELATION IS MEANT TO BE INTERPRETED FIGURATIVELY.

You are a functional Scriptural retard- you know nothing of interpretation, as I have made you aware of elsewhere.

Jesus FULFILLED the Mosaic law.

He died for all humanity who will put faith in Him- Jew and Gentile.

There is only one way to salvation- Jesus Christ.

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time" - 1 Timothy 2:5,6

A ransom for all- both Jew and Gentile.

PS- The Lion of Judah/The King of the Jews:

Jesus is the Messiah (even though you reject that). And you do not know what a Jew is, as I have pointed out previously. Jesus fulfilled the law- and the promise given to Abraham. He, and only He, is the SEED (not seeds) that was prophesied (Galatians 6:12-21) He fulfilled every prophesy written about the Lion of Judah, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. That makes Him the King of the Jews- all those who put faith in Him.

The Son of King David.

Jesus earthly lineage can be traced to King David, so yes, he is properly called “Son of David.”

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:40 | 5071698 Jumbotron

"You say that Jesus Christ is a liar, because you say there are TWO ways to salvation, Jesus said there is only ONE."

There you go.....lying again. But too stupid to realize that anyone who reads the words I posted above will be able to see I did not say ANYTHING about Jesus Christ being a liar....or that there are two ways to salvation.

"IT IS OBVIOUS THAT REVELATION IS MEANT TO BE INTERPRETED FIGURATIVELY."

Revelation is indeed apocalyptic language. You do have to get a sense in the more "descriptive and fanatastic" passages what the allusion is to. But make no mistake about it. There is no way to pretzel logic your way out of the 144,000 thousand Israelites from the TRIBES. The Bible states clearly, without need for some anti Semetic Replacement Theology bullshit........TRIBE OF JUDAH.

I'm sorry you have a problem with God still loving his people. I'm sorry you cannot accept the very words of Rabbi Yehsua.....Jesus the Christ.....King of the Jews who will sit on the throne in Jerusalem with adoring Jews and Gentiles before Him.

But that's your problem. Still doesn't mean you can go around lying. Which you automatically are as a Replacement Theologist.

Deal with it.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:57 | 5071744 Seek_Truth

There you go calling me a replacement theologist again, like a broken record. I am not, and have clearly indicated so. Yet you are desperate, because I have proven you a liar numerous times.

Remember, your own actions and words indict you:

"4 Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes -- these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God. 5 You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is really an idolater who worships the things of this world. 6 Don't be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the terrible anger of God comes upon all those who disobey him. 7 Don't participate in the things these people do. 8 For though your hearts were once full of darkness, now you are full of light from the Lord, and your behavior should show it! 9 For this light within you produces only what is good and right and true. 10 Try to find out what is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and expose them. 12 It is shameful even to talk about the things that ungodly people do in secret. 13 But when the light shines on them, it becomes clear how evil these things are. 14 And where your light shines, it will expose their evil deeds. This is why it is said, "Awake, O sleeper, rise up from the dead, and Christ will give you light."- Ephesians 5:4-14

Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. - James 3:10

But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. - Colossians 3:8

You foul mouthed, hateful liar, pretending to be Christian. Christ prophesied about the likes of you:

"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

You are no Christian.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:13 | 5071781 The Phallic Crusader

Agreed he's not Christian - he's a Judaized "Christian" Zionist.

"Replacement theology" is the term used by the Zios. "Supercessionism" is the apt term and is well supported. It is merely hated because, in essence, it maintains that after Christ, who is "chosen" are those who follow him [sorry - 'Him'] regardless of race, tribe, etc. Meaning there is a new covenant which supercedes the old.

The whole point of the Christ as Messiah.

Again, not my beliefs, but Christian Zionists aren't even Christian - nor are the "Yeshua" types.... they seek to reinforce the absurd idea of a racist god who "chose" the people of Israel...sometime before the Israelites were completely destroyed and lost to history. It's racism, and the objections to supercessionism, ironically, often claim that it is "racist" to deny that a single, certain "race" is "Chosen" by the divine.

All of it is fucking absurd.

Be nice to people, and try to live a good life. All else is filler.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:20 | 5071802 Seek_Truth

I'm aware of, and agree with what you say, TPC, up to, of course, the last two sentences you wrote.

I hope and pray that all see the need to put faith in Jesus Christ, even hate filled christian zionists and confused "jews for Jesus" types.

And of course, folks who think all that matters is to "try to live a good life."

An admirable goal, that makes you a good neighbor, but won't pay for your sins.

Only Jesus Christ can do that.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:45 | 5071854 where_is the_nuke

There are many Zio-Christians in USA. But I suspect Jumbo is not one of them. He is a Khazar Kike pretending to be a Christian.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 13:04 | 5072840 Jumbotron

BBBZZzzzzzzzt.

Try again.

Neither Zionist nor Kike

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Born and raised Southern Baptist......now Anglican.

But I'm the Christian you're mother warned you about. Not taking shit from the likes of you Hitler lover.

I don't have a problem with Moo-slums. You want to believe in a lie.....go right ahead. You want to kill me for not believing in your lie......then I will kill you when you come and find your family and kill them too. That's not a religious thing. That's how you keep killers at bay. You out barbarian the barbarian.

Are Jews perfect. Hell no. Was the State of Israel carved out on a map by W.A.S.P.s after WW 1 legitimate? Not any more so than any of the other lands carved out for the Moo-slums.....at least in the eyes of foolish man. But God does work mysteriously through the foolish. I am proof of that.

You guys actually give me comfort with your words. When the foolish Gentiles get all riled up over the question of the Jew......I know God is REALLY afoot.....working on something great ! The world always responds in such a way against both the Church and his people the Jews when God is on the move about to reveal something big.

So....thanks for all your comments. As a former meteorologist.....you guys are like a barometer. But.....trust me.....you don't want to hear what forecast I have for you and your kind.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 16:27 | 5073421 where_is the_nuke

Seems like you have gone full retard. You talk about God and what you imply is about Darwinism, You are the epitome of a mentally retarded zioqueer. I have no doubt you are a kike.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 17:46 | 5073712 Jumbotron

I have no doubt you're some little kid out there pulling in minimum wage, smokes dope occasionally, listens to heavy metal.....maybe even black metal.....and blames his parents and the World Wide Jewish Conspiracy for all your problems.

Grow up. Or eat a bullet. Either way. I don't care. But the Jew isn't going anywhere. God is in control of ALL men's destinies. He let's us plan and scheme.....and he then works out all the good and bad schemes to his plan.

The Jew does not care about you. He will not cut your head off for not believing in Jehovah. The vast majority of Jews in Israel are secular. They don't know you, they don't care about you or your beliefs about them.

But if you TRULY, DEEP DOWN IN YOUR GUT, KNOW FOR A MOTHERFUCKING FACT, that a Jew in particular.....or the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy is keeping you down, then put down the doobie, man up and ball up, and go do something about it.

Your hero Hitler did. He came from nothing. Was even jailed for a time. But look what he did.

What are YOU going to do ? HHHMmmmmm ????

I know what you are going to do. You are going to get off from your minimum wage job, plop than Swanson dinner in the microwave, fire up a fatty, wank off, and Jew bash on ZeroHedge.

Because you are a lazy, no good, piece of shit who does not have the balls or the conviction to back up your statements.

I can't wait for Radical Islam to come to your town. You'll be bending over offering your ass to Allah in a heartbeat.

Dhimmi goat. BAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH !!!! BAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:18 | 5071796 The Phallic Crusader

Youre Jewish - you aren't Christian.

No shame in that, but you seem confused about what you are.

Why is it anti-semitic to say salvation comes from choosing Christ? You've been brainwashed by religious Zionism.

You also ought to, seriously [not that you'll listen to me] do some googling about the 144,000 - you in part agree its symbolic writing but then take the number 12,000 and the listing of tribes seriously.

Where are the tribes of Israel today, I ask you?

It doesn't matter - I whisper.

the 144,000 has nothing to do with personal salvation or faith or good works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/144000_%28number%29

You've been brainwashed by racism - people who think the Jews are, qua race, "Chosen" regardless of belief or acts.

God is not a racist.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:19 | 5071799 The Phallic Crusader

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/08/how-israel-trashes-judaism/

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:08 | 5071771 The Phallic Crusader

oh, I see, the "Christian" Zionist type...

Here's the thing pal, if you aren't a supercessionist, you aren't actually a Christian. To be a Christian requires belief in the words of Christ and the NT, and that precludes the idea that Jews are "Chosen."

Not my beliefs, I'm an agnostic, but I surely had to study that nonsense.

And by the way, Revelation aboslutely, positively had to do with events in the 1st century CE - not our future.

I'd start to worry about your own soul - when was the last time you read the Gospels? Seriously?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:30 | 5071830 Seek_Truth

Again, gotta disagree with the preterist interpretation of Revelation-

Way too much that hasn't been fullfilled, which means the futurist interpretation is the only way that makes sense.

I have written volumes on both, and I can assure you that we will shortly see the sixth seal opened.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 00:06 | 5071882 The Phallic Crusader

Well we can agree to disagree, no worries, and I appreciate your replies, my good man!

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 00:16 | 5071896 Seek_Truth

And I yours- I wish you the best!

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 13:13 | 5072820 Jumbotron

You know the great thing about all this discussion you Replacement Theologists?

We're all going to die. I think that is the greatest thing ever. "O Death....where is thy sting ? "

And after we die....then the Judgement. No more "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit". Real Justice.

That's why I don't care about your anti Jew rantings. I don't care about miscarriages of justice down here on earth.

There's a reckoning coming. And each of your docket dates is the last day of your life here. Some have longer to go than others. But it is a date assured.

So....when I post rebuttals to your Satanic Replacement Theology......( are you Roman Catholic or just some white supremicist Protestant.....maybe some form of Primitive Baptist perhaps) it's not to change your mind.

The BIble is quite clear....in the last days people would be given over to their deceptions. Nothing to be done about it.

But.....when I post....and you read it.....you will have no excuse when you stand before the Father when he asks you why it was you read the Truth from a fellow believer and did not take heed of it ? Of course Jumbotron is a fool. But did you not read my words.....where I said.....I would use the foolish to confound the wise ?

So.....once again.....here is your condemnation. Once your eyes see this.....your excuses just ran out.

Know you not what the scripture saith of Elias;
how he calleth on God against Israel?
Lord, they have slain thy prophets,
they have dug down thy altars;
and I am left alone,
and they seek my life.

But what saith the divine answer to him?
I have left me seven thousand men,
that have not bowed their knees to Baal.
Even so then at this present time also,
there is a remnant saved according to the election of grace.

Romans: 11, v 2-4

Jesus came for his people, the Jews during the first Advent. Because of his rejection by his people, he tasked his Jewish apostles and later Paul, another Jew, to take the Gospel not only to fellow Jews but to the wider Gentile world as well. The Return of the King ( not the Tolkien kind) would have to be deferred until "the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled". Jesus, as his Father, is a promise keeper. Hence the passage I wrote above about the 144,000 Jews sealed by God for supernatural protection during the Tribulation. When Jesus comes back not as meek and mild Jesus on a donkey.....but as the Conquering King of the World......he will have his "remnant" as mentioned by Paul in Romans.

You see....truth-denier....you are Elias. You are like Satan. Casting false accusations. Trying to make trouble. Trying to persuade God and Jesus that they did not say what they have said......or that they said something that is not true. For YOUR benefit.

Go right ahead my friend. The clock is ticking for us all. Judgement is coming. I'm ok with that. Are you ? Well of course you are. But one of us is deceived.

If I'm wrong then God has to punish me for loving his people.....for honoring His Covenant with the Jewish People.....with believing in Sciptures both Old and New Testament where God Himself said I am not done with the fathful remnant of my people. He will have to punish me for believing that Jesus is still a Jew.....a Rabbi because Jesus still has a body...flesh and blood.....DNA. Perfected....yes. Jewish still.....yes.

He will have to punish me for bowing a knee and recognizing a Jewish King. King of the Universe....yes....always has been. But in his bodily form....and one of his many titles and honors....still, King of the JEWS.

He will have to punish me for believing in the gospels of Jewish apostles......including Paul.

He will have to punish me for desiring to pilgrimge to Jerusalem every year........

Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths. 17And it will be that whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, there will be no rain on them.…

Or.....

He is going to punish you for adding things to scripture that are not there.......for spreading a false gospel with the intent on harming and besmirchiing his people.......for succumbing to the sin of vanity.....that somehow a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant ( or Roman Catholic ) deemed himself and his kind as MORE important than God's people. The Jews are no better than Gentile believers, mind you, but neither are you better than God's people.

TICK TOCK.......Judgement's coming.

ooops.......you read down to here. Means only one thing. You don't have an excuse now.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 07:44 | 5072258 Duffy

Christian Zionism

Mark Weber - Podcast

The fundamentalist and evangelical Protestant Christians in the US who fervently embrace Israel are the single most important block of non-Jewish American supporters of the Zionist state and its policies. But few of these “Christian Zionists” realize just what an odd minority they are among the world’s Christians, and how out of step their views are with traditional Christian principles. Christian Zionists reject the ethical values of Jesus as laid out in the Gospels, and betray fellow Christians in Palestine who are victims of Israeli dispossession and oppression.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 21:37 | 5071507 Kirk2NCC1701

Those (Jews) who followed/worshiped the war-god Yahweh/Elohim also had not qualms about blood-letting and killing of their tribal enemies, who occupied whatever land they coveted. They were "OK" to take that land, because... [drum-roll] some "Guy in the Sky" told them.

Listen, sunshine, if you want to spin myths, then let's spin a more plausible one...

And God Kirk spoke to the Israelites and the Caananites: "Caananites to get the fuck off My land, because a new Branch of My Creation is going to take over. You are in a 5000 year Time Out for annoying me, and Jacob's lot get your turf and all your stuff. Shoosh! Bounce! Scram!" [and some Phasers and Photon Torpedoes complete the effect, to show the Divine Power of God Kirk]. That way, there'd be NO fucking doubt as to "On whose authority?" one bunch of illiterate and smelly goat-herders gets to take over for another bunch.

Just as silly, to be sure, but you get the point: If a "god" is going to evict someone, make the prick do it Himself. Else it's just a world-class CON. And you are either a complete idiot, or hoping that others are -- for believing that "My tribal myth can beat your tribal myth".

- no-God Kirk out.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:46 | 5071714 Jumbotron

That means a lot from a mythical character from a Science Fiction soap opera.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:20 | 5071801 The Phallic Crusader

Kirk is at least as real as Moses or Jesus, you infidel!!!

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 13:17 | 5072872 Jumbotron

That means a lot coming from a Klingon.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 05:55 | 5072166 Duffy

Pagan?

What a stupid word, peddled by idiots who think their myths and their bullshit violent racist father sky god is more "real" than any other idiot mythos cooked up by pre-scientific priests who wanted the best cuts of meat and the best bits of land and to make money by acting as middlemen to god {or by controlling the busiest overland trade routes}.

I gotta admit, you say such trite, absurd, over the top shit I can't imagine you're a paid troll.

But I can guess a few things about you:

_{1. You're not a Christian - you do not believe in the theology of the New Testament as is common to most Christian denominations, from Catholic to Orthodox to Anglican/Episcopal to Lutheran to Chaldean.}

_{2. You're young, likely under 23.}

_{3. You've never seen combat.}

_{4. You're a homophobe.}

_{5. You have a learning disability and/or psychiatric issues {or a close family member does} and probably a lot of unstable relationships}

_{6. You are not of greater than average intelligence}

_{7. You don't read much history or biography}

_{8. You're unattractive, haven't had many girlfriends, and have a small cock}

_{9. You're a dogmatic, rigid thinker}

_{10. You're dishonest - a hollow fraud.}

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 00:32 | 5075049 cape_royds

More from the Hasbara anti-Muslim B-Team.

Can't this guy go wank his hatebrain somewhere else?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:01 | 5070447 Suisse

That picture is not from ISIS and is much older. It's supposedly from China.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:14 | 5070657 tony wilson

i gave you an upvote cos the folks today on this site from the adl do not like connections made between isis and the rabbi.

this is all talmud

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 10:50 | 5069641 Herd Redirectio...

Demonic. Its the only word for it.

When you do something outrageous, terrible, just to see the look on people's face, thats the only word I have for it.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:00 | 5069672 newworldorder

This is the true face of islam. History provides many lessons that any curious mind can learn. Since its mediaval insception muslims have been bringing "peace to the world" through the application of the sword.

Go ask the Armenians, the Greeks, the Serbs, the Russians, the Poles and other lucky receipients of muslim kindnest and generocity.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:13 | 5069714 Herd Redirectio...

No, its just extremism. Madness.

I don't think we can attribute this to religion. There are probably 990 million NORMAL muslims in the world. Possibly as few as 970 million.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:27 | 5069753 sosoome

Until the "normal" muslims rise up and exterminate this evil done in the name of their religion, they are willing participants in the evil.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:35 | 5069780 newworldorder

TRUTH you speak has never been clearer.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 12:54 | 5070039 Jumbotron

"Until the "normal" muslims rise up and exterminate this evil done in the name of their religion, they are willing participants in the evil."

And that is PRECISELY why I have no respect for any Muzzie. They are a universally cowardly lot. The Secular West and the Church have all gone through our periods of tribalism and sectarian bloodsheds. We have had our Reformations....our Enlightenments and our Renaissances.

But the Muzzies.....????

Where is their Reformation, their Enlightenment....their Renaisasance ? Where is the courage of an Islamic George Washington or Thomas Jefferson.....or Thomas Paine ?

Because Enlightenment is anti-thetical to Islam and Allah. Allah wants obedience or death. Period. Christ called for a change in men's hearts. Treat your neighbor as yourself. Love your God as yourself and your neighbor. Allah says obey me and make others obey me or die.

Period....end of story.

I am SSSSOoooooo rooting for ISIS at this moment. THEY are the TRUE muzzie. If we would just stay out of it.....the Middle East will reveal the Truth of itself once and for all for the world to see.

Then it will be easy to do what has to be done.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:48 | 5070755 tony wilson

so much hate jumbotron what happened ?

it all start going wrong when as a kid a rabbi bit off your foreskin and slurped the blood up for a little to long.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:00 | 5070806 Jumbotron

For you it started when your father Ahmed fucked your mother in the ass and spawned you.....and then your mother cut you time and time again during Ashura.

http://religiousfreaks.com/UserFiles/Image/ashura.confetti.big.jpg

HAPPY ASHURA TONY !

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:41 | 5071384 where_is the_nuke

Something like this?

http://forward.com/articles/191918/new-york-baby-infected-with-herpes-af...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:26 | 5071822 The Phallic Crusader

Yeah but youre a Zionist racist pig who also appears to be something of a genuine religious nut, although I doubt you've ever sat down and read the madness that is the Bible.

Your anti-Muslim screeds read like the ravings of a Zionist who wants there to be a "clas of civilizations" -forget which Jewish neocon wrote that book, but you see my point... 1.2 Billion muslims in the world and you are content to label them all due to the actions of a tiny, tiny fraction of them, who may well have covert US or Israeli support.

If you can do that, how can you object when people characterize all Israelis, or Jews, based on ongoing Israeli war crimes, lies, spying, deception and so forth?

Why is it fair to stereotype 1.2 billion people of various races and tribes, but not fair to stereotype an ethnoreligious group of a mere 20 million? I'm seriously asking.

Do you think that a Jewish state of 300 million would treat its minorities fairly? Do you not appreciate the terrorism and slaughter the Zionists used, or the Jews {the actual Jews }used in defending their homeland from the Roman Empire?

But you're such an ignorant racist zionist ideologue, for you, any criminal act by Jews was a one off, or justified, while those of any muslim emanate from Islam itself and are attributable to well over a billion people.

You're a hypocrite and an idiot, and I think most here know it.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 12:04 | 5072704 Jumbotron

Islam......winning the hearts and minds of the world with their religion of "peace" since 610 CE

http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6a00d8341c60bf5...

LOL !!!

Even the word Islam is a lie. It means a voluntary submission to God. But Moo-hammed and his followers have been head chopping "volunteers" for centuries.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 12:38 | 5072793 Grumbleduke

This guy said from the beginning, that ISIS is the army of the devil.

He's an interesting character, and for those who are interested to learn about islam a good start.

Note: Please don't be disappointed, for this guy has a sense of humor and doesn't seem to be like your MSM portrayed muslim. I guess you won't see this kind of muslim anytime soon in the mainscream, no?

http://www.imranhosein.org/home.html

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Imran+N+Hosein++++&page=&utm...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 00:34 | 5075055 cape_royds

If the Western Enlightenment is represented by the likes of you, then I guess the last one out did remember to throw the switch.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 12:28 | 5072765 Grumbleduke

Until the "normal" americans rise up and exterminate the evil done by their government, they are willing participatns in the evil.

See how that works, numbnuts?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 00:23 | 5075033 cape_royds

Sosoome thinks all Americans should be put to death, because they haven't stopped their Obamination.

What a shithead.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:33 | 5069763 Yes We Can. But...

The 'normal' ones don't complain too loudly about the extremist ones, do they? And why might that be?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 11:39 | 5069798 newworldorder

There is no normal in Islam. (This is the siren song - sung by ideots.)

It has been the same since the 6th or 7th century. It is not reformable or repentant. it is a cult of death that will attempt to enslave all non believers under its political/religious ideology.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:21 | 5070111 Vracar

Take it easy (ISIS) moshe

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:00 | 5070249 Jumbotron

Keep rolling that doobie, (ISIS) sacrifice.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:41 | 5071051 where_is the_nuke

Shut up kike. Go bite your son's dick.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:20 | 5071160 Jumbotron

Ohhh....poor little nazi. Miss Hitler do ya' ?

You know....he was such a courageous man he ate a bullet instead of standing up like a true Teutonic Knight of Old in front of the world and defend his beliefs before being hanged.

Look at history you little pimple faced ass licker. EVERY country......EVERY civilization who has EVER messed with the Jews has gone down in flames. Once power civilizations are now dung heaps and sand.

And individuals like your blessed Hitler now rot in the ground feeding maggots.

The very fact you are mad at the Jews is a victory.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:11 | 5071302 where_is the_nuke

Kike you living on borrowed time." EVERY country......EVERY civilization who has EVER messed with the Jews has gone down in flames. " Hahahhahah.Bwhahahahahha. The fact is nobody likes kikes . They are hated for good reasons. Now just wait 5-10 years ans see what happens to you kikes.
Run kike run.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 21:25 | 5071478 Jumbotron

The Jews are not running ever again.

1948 - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

1956 Suez Canal - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

1967 -Six Day War - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

1973 Yom Kippur War - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

The First Intifada - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

The Second Intifada - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

The Third Intifada (the current one) - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !

The Gazanites are learning that lesson, yet again, because they are too fucking stupid and full of insane blood lust to figure that fact out.

Bring it Muzzies. The more you run to Israel....the more of you die. It's like the Muslim Roach Motel. Muzzies go in.....they don't come out . LOL !!!!!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:28 | 5071827 The Phallic Crusader

you left out Lebanon.

More of a fair fight there wasn't it, Sparky?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 23:53 | 5071865 where_is the_nuke

The Third Intifada (the current one) - BOOM - Down goes the Muzzie !---Don't agree. 60 kikes vs 200 hamas. It is a victory for hamas.

The Jews are not running ever again. Hahahahaha . Bwhahhahahah. whaahhahaahha. Who told ya kike? Your kike god?
History indicates they were and might be the will be running again.

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 12:07 | 5072711 Jumbotron

Nearly a billion Moo-slums from Morroco to Malaysia surrounding a few million Jews in a sliver of land called Israel. On top of that a billion more hostile Gentiles.

And the Jew still stands.

You all know your would get your asses kicked to your eternal shame in front of the world. That's why you don't dare go after them.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 13:08 | 5072858 where_is the_nuke

With the support of American goyim. But when they will know the truth or shit hits the fan, then? They just need a moment of clarity. Until then enjoy kike.

http://www.sott.net/article/283223-9-11-probe-closing-in-on-a-desperate-...

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 14:36 | 5073085 Jumbotron

Well.....step up Russia. Step up China. Step up Europe. Step up Africa.

Support your Moo-slum brothers the way us American "Goyim" support Israel.

There's a reason for that. They don't want to waste their money on animals who would just as soon cut their heads off after taking the money.

Fuck off, junior brown shirt.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 14:42 | 5073094 Jumbotron

Oh....and remember this.

Very early tommorow morning while you are still taking it in the ass from a skin head you picked up at a local neo-nazi bar, the sun will have already risen over Israel and another day of existance for the Jewish State will have long been underway.

Like it does every.....single.....day.

Sieg Heil.....motherfucker.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:13 | 5070304 Buzz Hacksaw

Can't agree with ya there dude. Brampton Ontario has been living with sikhs, muslims, christians, jews for 30 yrs. No beheadings yet.There are plenty more cities just like it in Canada. No beheadings there either.

Ra Ra sessions by policticaly motivated incite a few nut bars to go ape shit. We got ours too! This Jew Muslim Chritsian hatred is propaganda to keep us skeerd and distracted.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:11 | 5071133 newworldorder

Come now, you write intelligently.You should know better. My comments were NOT directed at Jews Christians or Sikhs.

What is debated here is not the low population Muslims who have escaped to Canada, US, Australia, etc.

What I am talking about is the "unchangeable and unrepentant cult of death" - that it is.

There is enough historical horror to go around in racial, religious and ethnic matters. The point IS - Islam is about perpetual drive to conquest, religious conversion, subjugation or death by the sword. There are no alternatives given by them when they reach near majority status in most countries.

You really do need to understand this. It is a simple concept. Those of us with a Historical perspective of what Islam is, - fully understand it - we are not "nut bars to go ape shit." Please get out of your "cum ba ya" cocoon.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:11 | 5071148 ebear

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 00:06 | 5071883 Buckaroo Banzai

Muslim infiltration of any foreign culture always starts peacefully. Once their numbers grow past a certain threshold they start to become violent and intolerant.

Just google the phrase "Muslim rape Sweden" and see what you get.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 12:08 | 5072716 Jumbotron

The Dutch have had their fill of Moo-slums too.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 00:25 | 5075036 cape_royds

Why is ZH getting stuck with the Hasbara anti-Muslim B-Team today?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:16 | 5070474 Totentänzerlied

Wasting your time. You're talking to, or rather at, people who are absolutely, totally ignorant of European and American, that is, western Christian, history.

To name just a single well known example: the Inquisition. Systematic brutality and sadism entirely on a par with anything the modern Middle East offers.

Maybe CognitiveDissonance would like to tackle this? Bueller? Bueller?

For a thousand years, the caliphates were the centers of human civilization and cultural acheivement, while Europe was a destitute, barbaric, and inbred backwater that had hardly left the Bronze Age.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:58 | 5070797 Jumbotron

Bullshit. The Inquisition is past. The Church has had the Reformation. The Muzzie ? Never.

The Muzzie is still pissed off to this VERY day about the death of Moo-homed's grandson Behold Ashura.

This day is well-known because of mourning for the martyrdom of Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Muhammad the third Shia Imam, along with members of his family and close friends at the Battle of Karbala in the year 61 AH (680 AD). Yazid I was in power then and wanted the Bay'ah (allegiance) of Husayn ibn Ali. A segment of Muslims believed Yazid was openly going against the teachings of Islam in public and changing the sunnah of Muhammad.^[10]^[10]^[11]

Shi'a Muslims in Malir, Pakistan performing zanjeer--ritual flagellation.

Muharram procession in kashmir

Husayn in his path toward Kufa encountered the army of Ubaydullah ibn Ziyad, the governor of Kufa. On October 10, 680 (Muharram 10, 61 AH), he and his small group of companions and family members (in total who were around 72 men and few ladies and children)^[12]^[13] fought with a large army of perhaps more than 100,000 men under the command of Umar ibn Sa'ad, son of the founder of Kufa. Husayn and all of his men were killed in search of water. The nearby river (Euphrates) was blocked by Ubaydullah ibn Ziyad men and Husayn and his companions were not allowed to get any water from it. Before being killed, Husayn said "If the religion of Muhammad was not going to live on except with me dead, let the swords tear me to pieces."^[14]^{[unreliable source?]}. Some of the bodies of the dead, including that of Husayn, were then mutilated.^[2]

Commemoration for Husayn ibn Ali began after the Battle of Karbala. After the massacre, the Umayyad army looted Husayn's camp and set off with his women and children for the court of Ibn Ziyad. A moving oration delivered by Zaynab in Kufa is recorded in some sources. The prisoners were next sent to the court of Yazid, Umayyad caliph, in Damascus, where one of his Syrian followers asked for Husayn's daughter, Sakayna, and once again it was Zaynab^{[disambiguation needed]} who came to the rescue and protected her honour. The family remained in Yazid's prison for a time. The first assembly (majlis) of Commemoration of Husayn ibn Ali is said to have been held by Zaynab in prison. In Damascus, too, she is reported to have delivered a poignant oration. The prison sentence ended when Husayn's 3 year old daughter, Janabe Sakayna, died in captivity. She often cried in prison to be allowed to see her father. She is believed to have died when she saw her father's mutilated head. Her death caused an uproar in the city, and Yazid, fearful of a potential resulting revolution, freed the captives.^[15]