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As Obama Launches Another Iraq Assault, Here Is An Undercover Look Inside ISIS
While the biggest geopolitical news of the past week was Obama's announcement he would become only the fourth president in a row to order military action in Iraq, explicitly targeting the ISIS jihadists, the far bigger question are the developments that spurred the administration to finally act.
The NYT reports that "as the tension mounted in Washington" the catalyst for Obama's decision was sudden developments surrounding the Kurdistan capital, Erbil. "Kurdish forces who had been fighting the militants in three nearby Christian villages abruptly fell back toward the gates of the city, fanning fears that the city might soon fall. By Thursday morning, people were thronging the airport, desperate for flights out of town. "The situation near Erbil was becoming more dire than anyone expected," said a senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the White House’s internal deliberations. “We didn’t want another Benghazi."
The reason for this is that the US has an embassy in Erbil: that falling to ISIS would be the supreme punch in the gut for an administration whose foreign policy has become the butt of all global jokes. What's worse, now that ISIS had taken control of a critical dam in Mosul (which as we reported earlier controls water levels on the Tigris levels as far as Baghdad, and whose capture "shook Kurdish officials and fueled the sense of crisis" as it gave ISIS all of the leverage) the US embassy could be flooded should ISIS blow up the dam in question.
In other words, Obama merely took to arms after the threat of another massive foreign humiliation became all too real and when the reality that the Kurdish defense was about to fall. Of course, the actual stated reason for intervention was different, a far more noble one.
At a 90-minute meeting in the Situation Room on Thursday morning, Mr. Obama was briefed again about the plight of the Iraqis stranded on Mount Sinjar. Members of an ancient religious sect known as Yazidi, they were branded as devil worshipers by the militants. The women were to be enslaved; the men were to be slaughtered.
Officials told Mr. Obama there was a real danger of genocide, under the legal definition of the term. “While we have faced difficult humanitarian challenges, this was in a different category,” said an official. “That kind of shakes you up, gets your attention.”
At 11:20 a.m., Mr. Obama left the meeting to travel to Fort Belvoir, Va., where he signed a bill expanding health care for veterans. He had all but made up his mind to authorize airstrikes, officials said, and while he was away, his team drafted specific military options.
When the president returned to the White House barely an hour later, he went back into meetings with his staff. By then, there were news reports of airdrops and possible strikes. But the White House “hunkered down,” an official said, refusing to comment on the reports for fear of endangering a nighttime airdrop over Mount Sinjar.
Mr. Obama did not announce the operations until dawn had broken in Iraq, a delay of several hours that added to the panic in Erbil. Reports of explosions near the city at dusk on Thursday night sowed confusion after Kurdish officials said the United States had begun airstrikes on the militants. The Pentagon flatly denied the reports.
The rest is now well-known (the full breakdown can be found here), and culminated with Obama's Thursday announcement as well as the immediate launch of bombing raids on ISIS militants.
Here is the most recent Iraq situation report courtesy of the Institute for the Study of War.
Within the past 24 hours, ISIS seized Mosul Dam. This capture provides ISIS strategic advantage over the Iraqi state. The dam's collapse would severely damage vast areas of the country where ISIS seeks to achieve military victory but has encountered heavy resistance. Also, ISIS now controls electricity production to Mosul and the group extends its claimed territory farther north. ISIS continues to fight the Peshmerga in Makhmour, south of Mosul and the IA in Dhuluiya, north of Baghdad. Although the United States conducted two rounds of targeted airstrikes against ISIS held territory outside of Arbil and Mosul, it remains too early to determine whether or not the group will adjust its military strategy. ISIS is likely hardening territorial boundaries for the Islamic Caliphate east of Mosul, but ISW assess ISIS will not attempt to seize Erbil. Still, fear of an ISIS attack on Erbil has peaked.
So now that the attention is once again back to ISIS, whose dramatic success in forming the caliphate was lost to the world following the return of hostilities in Ukraine and the escalation of the second Cold War, here are, courtesy of Vice News, the first two parts of a series looking at life in the Islamic State caliphate. Vice News reporter Medyan Dairieh spent three weeks embedded with the Islamic State, gaining access to the group in Iraq and Syria as the first and only journalist to document its inner workings.
In part 1, Dairieh heads to the frontline in Raqqa, where Islamic State fighters are laying siege to the Syrian Army’s division 17 base.
In Part 2 filmmaker Medyan Dairieh meets an Islamic State member from Belgium who works to indoctrinate some of the youngest members of the group. He also gains further insight into the minds of Islamic State fighters as they host celebrations and military parades featuring American tanks and APCs seized from the Iraqi army.
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did anyone actually watch the video?
clearly not, by all the downvotes.
That kind of kumbaya mentality is the basis of the N.W.O. If we can only tangle ourselves up in so many free trade and banking deals that if someone declares war on the other it would so severely affect their own economy that their leaders would do away with the wish for war.
Great......the only problem.....it makes slaves of us all to a global cabal of international elites.
Besides......the N.W.O. doesn't mind a little Muzzie Chaos like ISIS or the Taliban or Al-Queda. It gives them the cover to tighten the noose around ALL of our necks. In the name of peace.....and the children.....of course.
Ideally, all humans living as one country (each treating others as self) would be the ultimate wisdom, and practically a smart thing to do. If every sheeple used their head properly they would do this, its the only way to utopia("happily ever after") if ever there is one.
Now for the REAL REALITY: they will behead your ass, first rape you and yours, pile your heads, stick them on poles OR if you are willing to convert they will enslave you (until you and your offsprings start yelling takbir like rabbid dogs). This lesson is well known to all humans who tried to think like you (eg: hindus/buddhists occupied by muslims).
Get real dude, living in amerika eating cheatos and typing wisdom is not reality. Since you are wisdomy type, i will give you a tip "world doesn't change, but you can" think hard about that.
game theory explains evolution [which I studied a fair amount back in undergrad] like the rules of baseball explain how to play chess.
It's a nice idea, but he's not thinking like a scientist, he's thinking like a Leftist ideologue who wants to reduce human beings to he ontological caricature [if you will] demanded by his worldview.
Sometimes TED talks remind me of the sort of happy horseshit PBS airs during fund drives - Dr. Wayne Dyer and that Indian doctor who thinks he understands particle physics but doesn't even understand the basic concepts....
just my opinion of course, i could be wrong.
ISIS should do a Toyota truck commercial.
Set to the old surfer hit "Wipeout".
Wake me when we see them take aim at Israel and become IS.IL
Wake me when they go after Jerusalem. Should be a good show.
poor toyota,, showing up in Ebola land,,, ISIS country,, Syria videos,,,, Oh,, I have two in my garage,, been driving Toyotas for over 25 years and love em.. Run forever with a little love and care,,, kind of like the wife,,,,,,, good weekend all,, the sky isnt falling here the sun is shining.
You have an excellent point.
RE: Vehicle VIN numbers and GPS.
Who boutht them, what are the VIN #s, where were they sold, how were they paid for. How did they get into the hands of ISIS.
All good questions for the US Media to ask, if only they could get their nose out of oul Dear Leaders ass.
I just wish ISIS would stop blaring Freddy Mercury's [Queen] "We are the Champions" across the desert sands in the middle of the night. Peeples cant sleep. Abdul Mohammed al-Sameer Afzal "joe" Mustafa said his favroite Western entertainer is Freddy in an off-the-cuff tender moment.
That alphabet cannibal army of darkness is our own creation. Here is a short slideshow showing some of their accomplishments; http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481
alphabet cannibals A
let us reset to i
and z
zionist israel
any foto show of the gaza holocaust
any fotos of the irish pits full of raped children and babies buried by the catholic church.
any fotos of your pope raping kids and trading them internationally.
isis is israel
the poep runs an international paedophile ring
tell me i am wrong.
you want us to look at your talmudic rabbinical slaughter no thanks moshe.
Your points may be accepted, except for this.
- Your atempt at moral equvalency with historical atrocities commited by non muslims and attrtocities being committed by muslims is BS from a scale, repentance and ability to change perspective.
- Islam is a mind controlled, cult of death. It is not reformable, adaptable or changeable. it will destroy any non believer and willl maintain itself as it has for centuries in a monolithic state of political and religjous ideology.
THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT ISLAM. - It is what it is and has forever been.
http://www.holywar.org/jewishtr/wvr.htm
The only "mind-controlled cult of death" I see here is yours, buddy.
Fucking get a brain, you shithead.
A few months ago if I had asked any of my friends whether they were concerned about ISIS, they would have said "what's ISIS?" Then, out of the woodwork, ISIS becomes a military powerhouse and overruns Iraq in short order. Meanwhile, we're supposed to accept ISIS as a household word, reported by every presstitute media outlet as though it is something that's been around forever. Oh, and don't forget that illustrious press conference by our beloved dictator telling us how we're leaving Iraq as a self sustaining democracy. The population in every country and culture that we touch is doomed to misery. And yet, we never stop spreading "democracy" for the good of all mankind. Disgusting.
ISIS is no powerhouse, the Iraq army ran away and when a civilian population is unarmed thirty well armed people could take over a small city with ease.
The Iraq army is no army and a pitiful display of political cronyism.
lets have a look inside
nahhh or however you spell na no.
lets not bother
jewish media making films about mossad greater israel change agents
is it ever gonna be balanced.
this shit is not complicated.
it will only get more complex when isis start invading israel.
then saudi
then turkey and jordan and qatar.
add the empire of the city of london and the bankers of new york you have all the parties providing a breast for the young baby isis to suckle on.
i read some of this blood ritual shit in the talmud so it must be true.
isis is al quada 2 reboot another fucking tel aviv pentagon fantasy.
not sayin they do not exist what i am saying is logistic mothefuckers they can only conquer when the native security stand down from orders above.
isis spread is based on military stand down.
standown like norad during 911 at lot can get done with a standown no
Yawn... Obama's polls are in the toilet, just like past presidents, he needs some non-threatening wars to get 'em back up. Dropping some bombs on his former Syria love-child ISIS is just what his internal pollsters want.
He won't drop bombs on Russia though, because that would be a real war against a capable enemy and he could get his azzz whipped. Additonally, there wouldn't be anyone left that he could boss around even if he won.
I am not against humanitarian aid but for the surrounded Yazidis we should NOT have commenced military actions against ISIS - that is a job for the Iraqi military. You know, Iraq was a very secular state with Baghdad being called the Paris of the Mideast in the '80s. People had free education and a very modern medical care system - we certainly did a number on them but that should not come as a surprise as we have a collection of 535 imbeciles, thugs, charlatans, brain-dead octogenarians, flim-flam men, self-righteous religious bigots, and most of all - Israeli ass-kissers and dick-suckers who have no principles nor morals...
They should send ISS back to Belgium and France where they belong. ISIS's orgins are in EU. The whole European continent is one giant MADRASA, its people are willing 'dunces' marching with FREE PALESTINE signs. How about FREE EUROPE.
ISIS is the front, the mule for Bernanke. Bernanke gives the ops in Belgium money to buy treasury supply that Russia (and others) are dumping on the market. ISIS in turn gives the UST bonds back to Bernanke, who repatriots the bonds he just bought, thus squaring the circle. for their trouble ISIS gets a small plot of land west of Baghdad. this new land becomes a sovereign nation, established for immigrant muslims living in Europe to return to their homeland (sound familiar like 1948?) the US raises a fuss at first over the terrorism and killing that go with nation building, but they recognize ISIS right to exist and give them military and economic aid. the balance of power in the ME is established, (although for Jordan its a bad day, there are few people in Jordan, and mostly the rockets fly over them).
Things have deteriorated to the point that Americans are using every opportunity to take their eyes off what is happening in Iraq, the country has become a train wreck and is rapidly morphing into a failed State. It is often unwise to take your eyes off a problem for long because when you look back you might find that things have gone horribly wrong, this is the case in Iraq and Syria.
The lyrics from a song "slip sliding away" come to mind as a way to describe the massive investment made in Iraq by America. Recently a group called ISIS shocked much of the world by swiftly capturing Mosul in an offensive that allowed the group to take control of major parts of northern and western Iraq. On June 29, 2014 the Islamist militants declared an Islamic "caliphate" in an area straddling Iraq and Syria. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/islamic-state-of-iraq-and-levant....
It's great to be able to analyze markets, but it's also important not to develop mental bad habits, such as looking at a war as some sort of investment.
The invaders of Iraq did not "invest" in that country, unless destroying things and killing people constitutes "investment."
Look booger.......you have to realize that Obums numbers are such with the full force of the fawning media 24/7 and continue thier pathetic trade unabated. Also realize that these numbers are not a true reflection of sentiment. It is brought to your by oversampling Drats. Obums is almost universally reviled except for his DNA half dark side. Even that is starting to slip now that the bro's feeling sidelined by the Mexies. He is the worst case scenario leftist cunt that has been promised America for 50years. The liberal wet dream has arrived in 2008 and America reaps their stupidity and self hatred.
The Kurds should say they are Mexican drug lords. Obama would arm them to the teeth.
The only requirement is that it furthers their agenda...
"La Raza.......I'd like you to meet ISIS.
I think you guys have more in common than you think. I'll leave you two alone to talk."
Obama
http://www.nclr.org/
You xenophobia just hit off the charts.
I'm not scared of xenos.
Besides......La Raza does want to see the downfall of America. They see America and its citizenship laws as illegitimate. They look at America as an occupying force in the southwest. It is their highest goal to take back the land they deem is their's even if they have to use or ignore American law to do it.
I'm not scared of that. If the American sheeple keep electing and re-electing politicians in line with La Raza'a goals.....then the American people have spoken.
So La Raza does have common interests with ISIS. They want to see the downfall of corrupt, illegitamate America. They differ in the ways and means. They also want a different environment. La Raza wants a revitalized and greater Aztec / Mexican empire. ISIS wants a Caliphate.
But you have to take over America first. They both want that.
And that's not xenophobia. That's a fact.
You are pegging my "low information obamatron assclown" meter man.
Know what "La Raza" means? THE RACE. Maybe you can put 2 plus 2 together and figure it out but at this point I think you are lost....
Grimaldus
I know exactly what La Raza means. They are a collection of Latino quasi-Marxist / Nationalist extremists. They have a cultural and historical butt hurt over the Gringo taking their forefathers land from them. It is their stated goal to take back this land ....
http://www.menwithfoilhats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/aztlan_map.jpg
And they are well on their way to doing it. Between demographics and dumb ass political leftist American politicians they will get it back.
ISIS also wants land they think is theirs for a greater empire. They too are Marxist in nature and Nationalist in the sense that their nation is a religious Caliphate. And they want to see the downfall of corrupt America.
They have common interests.
That's all I was sayiing......albeit in a snarky, sarcastic way.....but nonetheless.
Your assclown meter needs to be re-adjusted. Or maybe you're the assclown for reading your meter upside down.
My assclown meter is just fine, my reply was meant for "herd redirection"
Looks like it is in the right place but if not my apologies.
You bring up another good point, marxists and islam being fellow travelers. Both are totalitarian. Helps explain why progressives bend over for murdering islam.
Grimaldus
No worries mate. Nothing in the Fight Club rule book says that an errent swing at someone that lands can't be overlooked or forgiven. From either side.
Peace.
The article gets to the heart of the matter quickly:
Irbil was about to become another Benghazi, and without a video to blame this time, Barry would OWN IT.
Footage of dead/decapitated Americans on the internet would have ruined Barry's vacation, hence the quick action.
Seeking to deflect the conversation from Benghazi comparisons, these Christians were a convenient smokescreen for the lamestream to push the compassionate "stop the genocide" narrative. This gave cover to Leftys like Lie-awatha Warren to support the strikes.
Once any ISIS threat to US personnel in Irbil is beaten back, those Christians are on their own, and will be quickly forgotten by the White House and lamestream.
A very accurate post.
So cynical and so correct.
any vice documentary about the isis training camps in qatar,turkey and jordan.
any interviews with mossad,idf,sas and navy seal trainers.
any sweeping shots of israe idf l field hospitals patching up isis rapists any interviews with cia drugs mules supplying captagon,heroin,coccaine and other meds to keep these fake fuckers raping.
any nsa ifo dumps over the years about this group any warnings any info on bank transfers about who is providing material support.
no info cos like the silent black boxes of the ukraine real information collapses the fucking mossad lies.
Good point there Tony.
They may not be a traditional country but they must have vulnerabilities.
Unless ISIS are running a purely cash economy they must be putting their funds in a bank somewhere.
No, I have not seen any or heard of any. Can you link to some?
Take it easy thar Joo hater. That's a different middle east news clip.
i love you i do not hate you moshe
but if you try to put your rancid circumcised prick any where near me i can promise you a singular holocaust : )
No, he DIDN'T fund ISIS.
ISIS is a wahabbist group WAY beyond US funding. They'll take Saudi money, but they wouldn't take US money unless they stole it.
But hey, it's yor "narrative", you can play in the street with it.
Um. Who do you think is paying the Saudis? Keeping the royal family in power?
So....we thought these ISIS clansmen hated the Jews. Turns out, they basically hate everyone who isn't a Muslim, and they want to kill and behead even their own countrymen. They want to hunt down and kill even those who do not have any violent tendencies at all.
If we were on an Island of 1,000 people, and 10 guys were committed to killing all the others on the Island what would you do? Oh, and toss in raping your women.
With 990 remaining individuals and 450 of them being men.....it is the moral obligation of the 450 decent men to take care of business...and when someone is committed to killing you and your family...there's not a lot of options left on how that business gets resolved. But you better do it fast.
An interesting article on perhaps what the USA should be doing in the ME
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/08/09/comment-let-it-bleed-case-...
Will wonders never cease?
A sane and rational proposal coming out of Harvard?
I'm flummoxed.
a bunch of soldiers from a previous war, (Iraq one and two) turn off the power to Baghdad, and rob the Casinos (all the shops in the Green Zone, and the American embassy) their leader is a guy named Ocean, his plan is robbing a city in the desert. the new ratpack, sit back and enjoy your summer entertainment.
Wasn't this ( kinda....in a loose way) the subject of the film "Three Kings"
Both of which starred George Clooney.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120188/
Any questions on why Iraq had a brutal dictator in the first place?
Arius, why did Obama want to go to war with Syria? Why does he want to use Ukraine to inflame Putin?
I thought that the heroic Barack Walker Blythe Obama had already won the War on Terror and saved the Middle East when he, with his bare hands, assassinated Osama Bin Laden. What am I missing here?
I guess the tri-lats running Obama's FP never read any books about Arab peoples history.
When you create a vacuum in a battle space like Syria (remember Obama's secret war in Syria) and dismantle Baathists steeped in British education and modernity from Iraq and Syria and blast them into the desert AND then fund these guys through Saudi princes trying to get the West's overall support to be the next King of Saudi AND fuel a global conduit for fighters from Libya to Chechnya with no education, tolerance or prospects and mount all those people in a giant cat box - you are going to make a mess.
I get it folks. Get the Muslims to kill each other off. But in the process you kill everyone else. But if the US could never hold the ground on AfPak or Iraq after 10 years, what really makes you think that after these yahoos motor into Mecca they won't turn their attention to Tel Aviv?
If you EVER see a cross pollination between these IS guys and people in Cairo you might as well hunker down for the zombie apocalypse. Maybe the logistic chain for these guys can be pulled overnight, but when you start wrapping kids in Black Flags, you have an entire generation of killers being manufactured.
These IS guys have better representation than the Tea Party that is for sure. Who's their agent - CAA?
spot on.
They certainly do a nice job of shaving off their mustaches for camera. Not a bristle in sight!
Yep thems the globalists. And the merceneries are the ISIS and the US military--both globalist forces.
Obama is a TOTUS and should be impeached.
ISIS NEWS
Latest News:
http://tersee.com/#!q=isis&t=text
As usual, things are not as they seem.
Militarily weak, ISIS is allowed to wreak havoc on this area of the world to make a point.
This is really obvious to me. But it will be the MSM narrative that people take in. Citizens will fork over dollars and BEG their elected officials to "do something!".
And don't think this is all about the machinations of the USA at this stage. Iran and the Malaki government are allowing the ISIS dog off the leash to demonstrate the stupidity of the USA and International position on the Syrian civil war.
Seriously, the Shiite coalition of Iran/Iraq/Syria is looking like a "hero in waiting".
Will the Shiites come to rescue the world from Islamic State Incorporated? Will President Asad and Malaki launch a war to brink civility back to the region? Stay tuned! The script is almost fully drafted!
Didn't Obama and Kerry say these thugs were good in Syria and supported them?
No, the good ones have unicorn horns.
Was it Frankenshteeen who had to destroy the monster he created?
Or was it the villagers?
graphic photos of ISIS beheading children
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481
And videos...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7fd_1406604477
http://www.asgraphic.org/videos/video382/index.htm
Anybody notice the Ray Bans?
Retro look for the ISIS-CIA-duh
Yes. I am an upper MC white dude, but feel I can't afford Ray Bans. Who are these fuckers?
Some grunt probably left them on the dashboard of his HV when the US bugged out.
The trappings of success. Until of course they get smashed by a 500 lbs JDAM Mark 80.
IF the ISIS group was allowed to vote in US elections.
They would have voted for Obama.
They are allowed... no ID required.
White House’s internal deliberations. “We didn’t want another Benghazi."
Does it sound like
Smudge and the bOYs have this all worked out
because,
" I'm really good at killing people "
( the Drone KING )
bababadiland forward
ISIS EX MACHINA
I have been very suspicious ever since Isis appeared in Iraq, grabbed oil and gas fields and became odds on favorite to take over the country that America recently destroyed.
I believe there is more to ISIS than meets the jaded, blood-shot Western eye.
We are subject to so much propaganda these days, really, how difficult is it for those struggling against the West, to give their mothers-in-law buzz cuts, dress them in Syrian or Iraqi army uniforms, and behead them on video tape?
Our American Nero may say we're going back into Iraq to prevent genocide, but I say to him "wipe the crude oil off your lips, dudeface."
If I were the "decider" in Europe : "America, get the hell out of Iraq. Enough death and destruction already. Do not fear a total economic collapse. Europe can help you."
"One Sandtrap Too Far."
Memoirs of the Obama Presidency.
i watched vice.
vice is government/deep state sponsored propoganda. it is owned by hbo.
I didn't watch the beheading video on page 1 of this thread. Don't have the stomach for it today.
Question, were they wearing any type of corporate branded clothing? I.e, Nike shoes, Adidas pants or a Brooks Brother suit, Rolex watch, etc. Give me any specifics.
Thanks.
If the ISIS video filmed by Vice isnt state sponsored propaganda then Obama is some monkey's uncle. Terrorists in tanks doing donuts, everyone smiling all the time, no one's face is covered, all in all the most westernized looking terrorists we've seen to date. Oh and ISIS' press agent or whatever is the worst actor in the history of acting. Wonder how Vice got ISIS to agree to the whole embedded reporter thing. I'm pretty sure Vice was bought by some big media conglomerate. The new owners' identities might shed some light on this obvious chicanery.
Who are the people behind the masks? They move differently than the unmasked soldiers. Consider the sophisticated technology they have stolen and how well trained they appear to be in the handling of this equipment. Who is doing this training? They say they are Muslims but they fight like western special forces using standard psi-ops techniques to traumatize, demoralize and spread fear amongst the enemy and subjugate the occupants. The Taliban are genuine Muslim fighters, you don't see them destroying Muslim holy sites no matter what sect. When you consider their targets are primarily oil related one has to wonder exactly who is financing and running this outfit?
CIA and/or Mossad - primarily global criminal syndicates, there's probably been significant overlap since LBJ and cronies had JFK killed so Israel could have a free hand developing nukes.
Don't think Israel was involved in that either? Check out the Michael Collins Piper book, or spend 20 minutes on the internet.
The case is not beyond a reasonable doubt, of course. There are some great videos on youtube and elsewhere linking Bush the elder to the JFK assassination - I suspect he knows some details left out of the history books, but he wasn't the guy making the top level kill order.
And it wasn't just LBJ and Israel, there were certainly other factors, like JFK's efforts to control the CIA, and possibly, printing US government fiat.... though I think the executive order in question is not all that it's cracked up to be by the Alex Jonestowns and Jeff Renses out there.... jmo though.
Anyone remember when Admiral Morrison complained about the USS Liberty which Admiral McCain never sent the USS Libery help. Shortly after, his rock star son gets arrested and is charged with a felony for something that no one actually saw. The Doors were getting ripped off for that gig and did not want to play.
Jim goes to Paris and stays in the zio section of town and ends up dead. No one sees the body.
Who got a huge contract controversial expensive contract just before JFK was killed for the F-111 built in Fort Worth?
Lester AIPAC Crown. Who supports and owns McCain and was Obama's earliest and biggest support? Lester Crown.
Who was known to hand out big military contracts before and after he became President? LBJ. LBJ was tribe too.
that rabbit hole runs deep.
THE ORDEAL OF LESTER CROWN BY BOB TAMARKIN; Bob Tamarkin, a Chicago-based business writer, is the author of ''The New Gatsbys: Fortunes and Misfortunes of Commodity Traders.'' Published: December 7, 1986FOR THREE DAYS LAST MARCH, BURT Smith, a Defense Department hearing examiner, sat in a stark chamber in the Ballston Towers office complex of Arlington, Va., and received testimony from two dozen of the most powerful and distinguished figures in the nation -all vouching for the integrity of one man.
On the face of it, the issue seemed less than monumental: the Pentagon was seeking to revoke a businessman's top-secret security clearance. The significance lay in the nature of the evidence, the financial and political stakes involved and the identity of the accused: 61-year-old Lester Crown, head of the billionaire Chicago family that controls America's largest defense contractor, the General Dynamics Corporation.
Among those who appeared or offered affidavits in his behalf: Three former Secretaries of State, two former Secretaries of Defense, and former Secretaries of Treasury and Commerce. Henry Kissinger praised Crown's ''extraordinary probity.'' Robert McNamara had ''every confidence in his integrity.'' David Packard, co-founder of the Hewlett-Packard Company and head of a Presidential commission that had just recommended sweeping changes in the organization of the Defense Department, vouched for his ''trustworthiness.''
On July 30, the examiner delivered his decision. Crown's security clearance was upheld. But within three weeks, the Pentagon returned to the attack, filing for an appeal. Crown's lawyers - the defense team was headed by Lloyd N. Cutler, counsel to President Carter, and Leonard Garment, counsel to President Nixon - say they were astonished. As of early last month, the matter was still unresolved.
The Pentagon maintains that Crown's role in a Chicago bribery scandal 14 years ago makes him unfit to hold the security clearance given him as a board member of St. Louis-based General Dynamics. But the case raises other issues, as well. It hinges on the battle between the Pentagon and Congress over misconduct and cost overruns by defense contractors, including General Dynamics. And it spotlights the power exercised by one family over a public company essential to the national defense effort. ON THE 12TH FLOOR OF THE MERCANTILE EX-change Building in Chicago's Loop is a regal office dominated by a huge mahogany desk. The room is unoccupied now - Henry Crown, the tough-minded financier who created the Crown empire, is 90 years old and mortally ill. Down the hall is a second office, more like a den, with a few papers placed neatly upon a small desk and one wall covered by family photographs. Here sits Henry's second son, Lester. Over the last decade, he has gradually assumed direction of the empire - the 23.2 percent stake in General Dynamics worth more than $700 million, significant positions in other public companies and private holdings in major industrial and real-estate enterprises. (See box, page 42.) Lester Crown's hair is just beginning to show signs of gray. He is tall, with a quiet, controlled manner, but the first mention of his security-clearance case unleashes hidden fury and resentment. ''I'm angry over the time and effort this has cost me, my family and my friends,'' he says. ''The whole thing is unwarranted.''
According to a Government report, his troubles began in February 1972 when he was president of Material Service Corporation. The sand and gravel business, the nucleus of the family fortune, was now a division of General Dynamics. He gave $8,000 of his personal funds to a $50,000 industry political slush fund, intended for a group of legislators in the Illinois General Assembly to smooth the passage of a bill to raise highway weight limits for ready-mix concrete trucks. The measure was vetoed by Gov. Richard Ogilvie, and the contributors to the slush fund received their money back. But eventually, to mollify the legislators involved, Crown and another company split a second, $30,000 payment.
Meanwhile, seven officers and employees of Material Service were padding their expense accounts -''at the direction of Crown,'' according to the Government report - and reimbursing their boss. The project was cut short when Material Service was subpoenaed by a Federal grand jury investigating corruption in the industry.
The family turned to Albert E. Jenner Jr., a lawyer and longtime friend who is on the board of General Dynamics. ''Whenever the kids got into trouble,'' Jenner says, ''they never bothered the old man. They talked to me, and I got them out of trouble.'' In return for his cooperation with the grand jury, Lester Crown was granted immunity from prosecution.
In May 1974, Crown was elected to the board of directors of General Dynamics, and two months later the Defense Department approved his application for a top-secret clearance. The results of the grand jury proceedings did not become public until December. Neither the members of the board nor the Pentagon had been told of the bribery case.
HE CROWN FAMILY WAS NO stranger to the political wars. When Henry Crown and his brother founded Material Service in 1919, he learned to play ball with the city's Democratic machine, which ran on generous political contributions. Says James O'Brien, chairman of a Material Service subsidiary, ''Henry played by the rules, such as the rules were.'' In the process, he turned the company into a money machine that made him a millionaire within five years.
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Who are they? Mostly Qatar sponsored Saudis.They have been doing a lot of fighting and are experienced.
Some other perspective for you:
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/articles/20140804.aspx
"Syria: An Unnatural Act
August 4, 2014: Fierce fighting continues in Aleppo as the army seeks to regain lost ground and generally take advantage of the continued fighting between ISIL and other rebel groups. The high level of fighting all over Syria has kept the weekly deaths at over a thousand"
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/articles/20140807.aspx
"Iraq: Blood Feuds And Genocide In The North
August 7, 2014: ISIL (al Qaeda in Iraq and the Levant) made a surprising move into northeastern Iraq in June, seizing control of Mosul. At first it was believed that ISIL would then move south against Baghdad. But ISIL instead turned to confront the Kurds, who had quickly taken control of Kirkuk and nearby oilfields. In the last week ISIL has taken advantage of this temporary disorder of Kurdish border security to advance into Kurdish territory and seize several towns and a hydroelectric and flood-control dam. The ISIL move north is also meant to kill or expel religious minorities like the Yazidis and Christians. The Yazidis are a particular target because many Moslems, and some Christians, consider the Yazidi pagans and devil worshipers. The Yazidi are Kurds who practice a pre-Christian religion related to the pre-Islamic Zoroastrian religion common in Iran (and now only found in India). The Yazidis are considered pagans by ISIL and to Moslems pagans must either renounce their beliefs or die."
Meanwhile in Maylasia, islamic snacbarian rats are upset about critisism of islamic murder.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/enemies-using-interne...
"Enemies’ using internet to attack Islam, warns JakimKUALA LUMPUR, Aug 8 — Federal Islamic authorities today joined the call for online attacks against Islam to be punished severely, following recent complaints that authorities were not vigorously pursuing non-Muslims for such activities.
Telling Muslims they were duty-bound to defend Islam against threats and insults proliferating on the Internet, the Malaysian Islamic Development Department (Jakim) said these actions were against religion and the law, and urged for a crackdown against such cyber-attacks.
In its weekly Friday sermon, Jakim alleged of numerous cases where social media and communications technology have been used to demean Islam, belittle Malay sensitivities and insult the Malay Rulers.
“The actions of these groups pushes the limits of Muslims’ patience. With all sorts of insults before this, we no longer want any rude and uncivilised statements or actions by any party to pass without stiff action and maximum punishment under existing laws,” read the sermon, posted on Jakim’s website."
Taliban have history of destroying religious sites dude.
There will never be peace with islam. Watch your six brothers.
Grimaldus
ISIL and Al Qaeda are not, at all, the same organization.
The Malaysia bashing sure went up a few notches after they found Israel guilty of war crimes, huh?
Bibi may well be looking at international arrest warrants. He certainly should be. First, though, he should be tried in the US for his role in stealing chrytons, as well as for lying before Congress about Iraqi nukes.
Oh, and investigated for having Mossad officers pose as CIA in Iran....
and a number of other crimes against humanity and the American host his shitty little country has been feeding on for far, far too long.
Ah, the dhimmi force is strong with this one....murdering islam thanks you to pay jizya or die.
Grimaldus
I'm calling fishy on these guys as well.
One of the earlier ISIS/Levant photos published a few months ago had what looked like a 6'5 bodybuilder amongst the fighters, he looked more like Brock Lesnar than the average Mahmoud Whatshisname middle easterner who is covered in body hair, and, of course, Isis Lesnar was wearing a hood to hide his face. Just where does he find the time to lift weights and take his protein drinks/'roid shots?
Their mannerisms and style of speech in this video compared to others raises a giant red flag IMO as well.
I've not been able to handle the photos of dead children much (whether Israel or Isis slaughtered them), but some of these photos definitely seemed staged. There was one awful looking one of a girl in a dress and white stockings, sans head, the solder was holding the body up like a doll. I didn't know that girls in Iraq or Syria dressed like that.
Don't think I will be watching any videos either, so I'm not denying it is happening.
How would Opompous react to a nuke threat from ISIS after they become a customer of North Korea? And who is buying oil from ISIS?
When the only solution is a banker-funded, MIC provided bullet, every problem becomes a profit target
Here are your links to propaganda agencies
http://www.archives.gov/research/alic/reference/terrorism-links.html
I'll give you another link shortly. He was the Bin Laden finest director in drafting terrorist videos for US Media to buy and loop footage by the minute. He was Ex -CIA. His name has escaped me. Get back to you on that.
Edit: his first name was Ben, the last name was just as unique as mine. Get back with you later, have to do chores. Mrs Atomizer will be back in a few days. Don't want her to bitch about a piece of dust on the floor. I love her, she has been gone two weeks. Can't wait for her bitching/complaining mood to return. Miss it. That's called true love.
ask yourselves this: Is ISIS good for the Jews {Zionists}?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-israeli-dream-the-criminal-roadmap-towa...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-leaders-aid-and-abet-israeli-war-crimes-...
You bet it is.
Energy and the petrodollar are major factors, but they are not the only factors. And even there, Israel's expansionism is at play.
People like Chomsky view the Israelis as an extension of the American (or Anglo-American) Empire. This neglects, perhaps deliberately, the fact that American Jews have wildly disproportionate wealth, media power, political power, and organization. While perhaps less than 1/3 are staunch "Zionists" and presumptively primarily loyal to Israel, a larger number are certainly primarily loyal to other Jews (a feature both of being a minority and of Judaism per se).
Neoconservatives were overwhelmingly Jews, which isn't to say that most Jews are/were neocons. People have trouble with this, and people fear being labeled as "anti-Semites" for discussing relevant facts. But it is a dark path when certain truths must be buried - particularly as Israel, Zionism and {Zionist} Jewish power have such massive, undue influence on American foreign and diplomatic policy.
Look at Ukraine as microcosm - the Jewish undersecretary married to an arch-Zionist arch-neocon who quite obviously wants the US to wage war for Israel's benefit, caught plotting with the Jewish American ambassador, and discussing installing one of several Jewish or largely Jewish puppets (Ukraine is under 1% Jewish), and discuss coordinating with the Jewish and Zionist US rep to the UN.
Look at Congressional staffers, look at the State Department - look long and hard at Treasury, which may as well be run out of a synagogue. Look at Obama's advisors past and present, look at the IRS, FDIC, CBO, OMB, National Economic Council, CFTC, Council of Economic Advisors, Commerce, and on and on and on.
How in the fuck could Richard Perle, investigated for spying for Israel, probably more than once, and a man who had worked for Netanyahu, end up in a position of great power, along with a cabal of Zionist Jews, in the Bush administration - unless Jewish/Israeli spying was in essence protected by the Deep State?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
How do we let people openly talk about stealing US nuclear material and delivering it to Israel - with the very probable involvement of Israel's current PM, unless Jewish/Zionist power within the Deep State is dominant?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-hollywood-spy/
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-...
How is that foreign leader then taken seriously, when he has falsely claimed for 20 years that Iran is mere "months away" from a nuclear weapon, even as he builds dozens of more of his own nukes and tens of thousands of new apartments in illegal Jewish-only "settlements?
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/netanyahu-in-1992-iran-close-to-having-n...
A man who worked with the Zionist 5th column to help lie us into the Iraq War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc
A man who paints Iran's leaders as genocidal religious nuts while catering to genocideal religious nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr4C2BPLeM
Why do we not only look away at Israeli war crimes but provide diplomatic cover - not 'arguable' war crimes, but the deliberate collective punishment of a captive civilian population far, far outside the bounds of either defense or the laws of war?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/human-rights-watch-findings-gaza-...
The answer is obvious - whether or not there are legions of people demanding you not state it.
Mossad and CIA are very likely providing logistics and arms to these mercenaries. Everyone simply supposes that they are ultra-hardcore Islamists. Most are likely there for the paycheck and what seems to be a winning team.
Here's a concern, all else aside - you have the prospect of US special forces engaging what amounts to a CIA/Mossad proxy terror/guerilla group. It's a very real possibility.
What is beyond possibility, or arguing, is the fact that the US government is, for all practical intents and purposes, hijacked by neocons, most of whom are right wing Zionist Jews, even as most Jews {who as a group obviously have affinity toward Israel and other Jews and have very disproportionate power in the US, UK, Canada, France, and elsewhere, transnationally) are certainly not neocons or expansionist Zionists.
Discuss.
p.s. I promise you that the links are worth checking out and form a coherent tale of the ZOG, one that is simply beyond reasonable dispute.
Well said Duffy.
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
Daffy, you're a LOT smarter than you look. ;-)
I'm gonna have to add your post to a selection of educational/useful posts that I save in my archives. Some blogs are worth hoarding. For when the Web is down for good.
you stupid idiots
blaming the jews for what Islam has been doing for 1400 years
and what of jesus?
Don't let the Greek name fool ya...
Secret Zionist Jew.
Don't you have a donkey to fuck, Moo-hammed ?
Islamic militants are proof Zionists fuck camels.
Dsty,
Can I send you a book called the Talmud? You can read about history. Then discover having sex with minor woman, and marriage. The other cuff in the Jewish Talmud, fuck little boys in the ass.
So, do you understand why we don't support this type of thinking? Lastly, if the Zionist what to continue war, they need to open their own wallets. Not the United States pocket book. We don't accept child rape for a ally to fund illegal occupation. BIBI, you're fucking insane.
Hi Atomizer,
So you seriously would live with Islamic state rather than Jewish state?
you must be insane.
In Jerusalem, they have cafes, you can have your girlfriend, internet, you can have opinions, Christians are allowed to a small degree, etc etc.
Welcome to the ISLAMIC STATE: You will be KILLED OR BEHEADED if you don't agree! NO INTERNET, NO GIRLFRIENDS JUST SLAVE-WIFYS - FOUR OF THEM - NO FREEDOM OF OPINION.
THIS IS THE SICK ISLAM. You idiot go ahead move the Islamic state!!!
Hi Rough-Trader,
Nope. I prefer to let them live amongst themselves without being policed by us. Why do you think we are so pissed off? Who the fuck do these people think they are in telling us how to live in the United States? Hence, White House.
My heritage goes back to the 12th century, the castle still remains in a battered condition. Now get on your knees and hope we don’t end your life over stupidity running from your mouth. This religious battle has been going on for over 3,000 years.
http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/
One more point rough-trader,
I traveled the world working for Kobe Steel (mid-20'es). We were worshiped as Americans. Every time I entered a foreign country, followed their laws to a tooth & nail. The police were a riot, always passing out the business cards and informing me to call if I get into an uncompromising situation.
Then 9/11 happened, everyone’s existence changed. I wish life was like the old days. We all got along. Shit, I never called down to the hotel about a red arrow on my ceiling and the blasting of 5:30 prayer mass. Not my country, just a visitor.
Christians are allowed to a small degree
Yeah, Christian priests are regularly spit on by Jews in Jerusalem.
Even though the Kingdom of Jerusalem, unlike David's kingdom, was real.
;0]
If the Old Testament is in any way true, it doesn't seem like a Jewish state is a great place or thing for non-Jews. In fact, the Torah is every bit as violent as the Koran, with the added benefit of a deep racialism.
You seem to like to define "Islam" only by the extremes, but define "Judaism" by the superficial universalism of, say, the modern, liberal, probably atheist or agnostic [like most smart folks] Jewish person.
In a nutshell, it seems like you hate Muslims and want the rest of us to do the same, while pretending that Jews, when in power, would discriminate against us less.
Seems like biased nonsense to me.
Let's talk about nonsense. Jews do rule in Israel and nowhere else. Compare and contrast to their neighbors. A religion, including atheism is not what you say, it is what you do.
There is no more incitement to hate Muslims than Buddhists, Wiccans, or Finnish people. Why does no one incite hatred towards these? It is because they are not in the news daily cutting off heads and calling for world domination through conquest. You don't have to worry about them, you don't need to hate them, you need not fear them as a group.
I don't see Jews as a religion, the State of Israel or an ethnic group threatening any kind of death and conquest. They have had the power to do that to their Arab, Muslim, Middle Eastern Neighbors since at least 1973 and they do not.
There is no "pretend" here except on your part.
Jews do rule in Israel and nowhere else.
palpable nonsense.
You can stick your talmud up your dhimmwit ass. Like that talmud example justifies murdering islamic snackbarian rat f**ks?
Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands. A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the borders of over 28 modern countries outside of Saudi Arabia. Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah. None of these other religions are at war with each other are they?
You are a pathetic progressive low information dhimmwit marching to Valerie Jarrett orders.
Grimaldus
It is a growing feature of modern life that people are losing their ability to distinguish good and evil. Therefore, they cannot recognize a threat and that enables the threat.
One can argue that the Arab Muslims were simply an army of conquest like any other army in history and I will meet them halfway. The Mongols, Huns and even Romans were no picnic to their enemies, but there was no particular undying religious dedication to the death and subjugation of all who were different. Once the Mongols and Romans set up their empires the killing stopped except in the case of uprisings. Trade flourished and all relgions coexisted. You did not have to even convert to their religion. You simply became part of the empire.
I now wish the Mongols had been a tad more successful in the Middle East. Islam would be on the ash heap with Zorosastrianism and the Aztec gods.
dsty and rough toilet trader above.
what about what the rabbi has done moses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tUV0cnyv8
Warping the matrix Tony ?
Liberating America From Israel
One thing I haven't seen in the news is that the Kurdrs are sheltering (with UN help) over 200,000 Syrian and Iraqui refugees. If Kurdistan falls to ISIS it would be a beheadsman's wet dream.
this is bob you need a star of david sign on your avatar so we know that a rabid rabbi is speaking : )
TW what kind of rag-headed Islamic fundamentalis you are then?
You seem to be a total Islamic FAN. Yeah, go ahead with your prophet Muhammed and fuck underage girls you traitor
Tony Moo-hammed is probably a pimpled faced, fat fuck of a skin head.
Or he may be Moo-slum himself.
Probably just another frustrated, 'merkin who blames his shitty life on everything and everyone, including joos....instead of his pathetic self.
The Muzzies aren't really that much worse than the Pope and his army of queer pedophile priets who trapse around the world buggering little boys. Hell, if one puts it in historical context, the Catholic Church would probably give the Muzzies a run for the money in the total body count and "creative torture" departments (e.g. Spanish Inquisition).
BTW.. Just to be clear, I hate the Muzzies the most but I also reserve a fair amount of hatred towards most other organized religions as well.
How many times are we going to have to learn that, everytime we go over there with troops and bombs, we end up making things worse than they were before?
...And that the blowback comes our way here in the US?
Waaaaay past time to let the locals sort it out for themselves.
all jewish owned news stations - feed the frenzy
I expect nothing more than lip service and minimal military strikes directed at (what i reason are) hired lanley trained forces, scowering & looting armaments from and seizing key targets in iraq. My bet is russia backed syria is yet the primary focus of these vermin once heavier armed.
Mercenary mayhem and murder suppresses resistance through terror while securing iraqi infrastructure like water and assets like oil gets controlled further suppressing domestic resistance while generating income for the manipulators. I think it likely the same satellites that observed ISIS columns moving into iraq unscathed from above, will watch them return to syria with armor, and, once again unscathed from above.
You conspiracy nuts need to get a fucking passport and book some trips to some garden spots beyond your mother's backyards. at least go to your local community college and take a course on energy 101. Here is my rant for the second time with the key takeaways boded: IRAQ HAS MORE OIL THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD. If you let the Jihadis get it, guess what IT IS GAME FUCKING OVER FOR THE WORLD. Check out the VICE video. You have them slinging black flags in the hands of 9 year olds and talking about being suicide bombers in Europe. Yes, the US fucked up removing Saddam. Yes, the US fucked up destabilizing Syria, I agree. Yes, THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN FUCKING UP FROM DAY ONE IN THE MIDDLE EAST but now it is at that point where it is so fucked up TO WALK AWAY NOW IS TO LEAVE THE LARGEST GOLD MINE IN THE WORLD TO A ZOMBIE FUCKING PLAGUE OF BARBARIANS WHO WILL USE THAT WEALTH TO MARCH ON ROME, PARIS, AND MADRID IN YOUR CHILDREN'S LIFE TIME. Was the war in Iraq about oil, yes. Did we get it, not yet but we're close...oh so fucking close we are to the oil...the last sweet, easy to get crude. billions of barrels of it. enough to supply the rest of the world for another 20 years while we get our shit together and figure out what to do with all of the Helium 3 on the moon (which is shining so bright here tonight in the Middle East you need sunglasses). BUT IF THESE ISIL FUCKERS THAT OBAMA GAVE BIRTH TO IN SYRIA TAKE BAGHDAD AND ERBIL THE WORLD HAS WE KNOW IT HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN TAKEN OVER BY ZOMBIES BIRTHED BY THE ANTI CHRIST. Fuck Brad Pitt and his cunt wife. This is the real World War Z.
And while I am normally not a big fan of Michael Bloomberg's rag, I do think they had a well thought out op ed. For the rest of you guys who thinks the world runs on Pixie dust, you're no better than these barbarians who think the world runs on the Koran.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-08-08/islamic-state-is-our-enemy
"Unchecked, Islamic State will present the U.S. with an ever-expanding range of problems demanding intervention -- from Baghdad, to Erbil, to Jordan and Syria and eventually at home and in Europe. No doubt in each case the intervention could be justified as an exception. It would be better for Obama to acknowledge, and explain, the encompassing problem."
White House is causing me more problems right now than isis.
you get a hold of the nearest toilet paper holder, drama cunt
FROM THE DEPTHS - IRAQ OIL BELONGS TO IRAQ - WHAT THEY DO WITH IT IS THEIR CHOICE - what you do with basketball players is your choice - did any muslim start a war about what you do with your basketball players?
your the cunt who probably still lives in your mama's basement. when was the last time you went to iraq? as for the oil wealth, of course it belongs to the Iraqis. A select few and that's part of the problem.
Hi Dogpilot,
It's good to see someone here thinking with their own brain rather than purely banging on about Zionism and other Fed related fantasies.
ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM. Wake up.
Islam is A problem.
So is USA foreign policy amount and global aggression. They are MAKING THE problem worse.
And there are few other big issues...
So why the hell are we FK'ing with Russia?
Well then, if what you say is true, the whole damn world needs to form an army and go in to eradicate the barbarian "Islamist State", and stop pussy footing around with politically correct "air strikes", which will do nothing.
Amen. These blood god worshipping head cutters need a large scale version of what's happening to their blood lusting brothers and sisters in Gaza.
Kill them all.....Crush their cities. Make them scream for mercy. Make them scream useless prayers to their fake, non-existent pig god Allah.
And them pound them more when they do beg for mercy.
24/7 Fuel / Air Bombs.....Daisy Cutters......Drone strikes.......Cruise Missiles.
Not....one....minute....of rest or peace until they build their cities underground. And then bomb those. And then salt the earth.
And a tactical nuke or two for good measure......just to prove to the leaders of Paklstan and Afghanistan or Buttfuckitstan that they are going to get a piece of that too if they don't keep their people in line.
The only way you fight barbarians is to WAY out barbarian the barbarian. That's how you put down a school yard bully. You beat the shit out of him.....drag his bloody body back to his dad.....and then beat the fuck out of the father for making such a bully in the first place. And do it in full sight of the neighborhood.
Talmundic wet dream.
TTry it with Iran or Saudi Arabia baby and watch two-thirds of Israeli kikes being annihilated. :)
The pig fucking Arabs and Persians couldn't do it when the first Jews came back to Israel in the 40's when they had no army.
And still to this day there are 100 million Muzzies from Morroco to Malaysia to 6-7million Jews in Israel. The Arab pig fuckers got their asses kicked every single time they have fought the Jew since the 40's . They don't dare do it now.
The Gazanites are learning that lesson, once again, the good ol fashioned way.....and the only way the pig fuckers can only learn. And that's through their shed blood and the weeping of their terrorist mothers.
I go to the "Church of what's Happening Now", not what happened a half a century ago.
So why the hell can't the mighty Jooos finish the job? Hell, they have every fuggin advantage against Hamas. I'm sure Iran is taking notes.
Kike, do you really believe your bullshit? Well, if you like your bullshit you can keep your bullshit.
The Khazars could only beat the Aras because they had American goyim supporting them.And about failure to learning lessons nobody can beat the kikes.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html
Geopolitics is a bitch you know. The only thing you little piece of shit are doing here endangering the lives of future generations of kikes by showing the real ugly face of yours. You better hide it kike.
Actually Israel has lost or done poorly when it approached being a fair fight. As in 1973. As in Lebanon.
The people in Gaza have unguided rockets against modern fighter jets, nvy, artillery, signals intel, etc.
Some of the anti-J stuff here is way over the top, but you're proof that there's an awful lot of stupid hate and ignorance on the "Zionist" side.
Gee whiz.
I thought George Bush stole all Iraq's oil and hid it under his ranch in Texas.
Ya know, cuz if we were gonna make off with the oil, it might be handy to have a whole army there...
Tell me again how many US oil Co.s have drilling leases in Iraq? Ya know, busy stealing oil?
Just goes to show if you repeat an idea, no matter how stupid, often enough it will get parroted back with the belief that it is an unequivocal fact.
I think we stopped stealing oil when Obama became President...
At least the chanting stopped.
They are not stealing the oil, they are paying for it in US$.
Ah!
Lulz at 20 years of oil and moon helium. Abso-fucking-lutely delusional thinking. You and all the Mid-East are toast when energy return on oil hits the one to one ratio.
There's your fucking pixie dust. Moon helium, I'mma laugh about that all day. Thanks.
"...BARBARIANS WHO WILL USE THAT WEALTH TO MARCH ON ROME, PARIS, AND MADRID IN YOUR CHILDREN'S LIFE TIME..."
Really ? I have got news for you : oil has no intrinsic value. The value of oil is derived from the role it plays in a system. A system which Europe dominates economically even more than US. Our output is greater. These Iraqis virtually produce nothing. Cars ? No, Planes ? Nope, Weapons ? no. They are scientifically and technologically backward. So think hard : will they march on Rome, Paris and Madrid ? You are an American scaremonger. Just scared as shit to loose the petrodollar. This is Iraqi oil, not American oil. We Europeans can buy it from them ( not in dollars ). Sounds like real free trade, no? I would not mind as much paying for it in dollars if it wasn't for the death and destruction you visit on these people. This goes against our values. Get that ? Get the hell out of Iraq.
You're such a deluded imperialist. Not once in your inane rant did you consider the lives of Iraqi's you sick fuck.
Fuck oil, we bombed that country back to the stone age, and are responsible for what could be considered genocide.
hardly mate. in one day what i do helps more people than all of you conspiracy nuts pounding away on a key board. you guys think servers run off pixie dust.
moment please - a news flash
a kardashian has been seen crossing the road without underpants and no pregancy bump
Oh no...
She ate the baby.
stop rushing the store doors, you will get your turn to fuck a Kar dash, they open cunts as frequenctly as they J Walk
DNA Lawyers is the rage now
new degree
l think zero hedge should wait until further notice, until they hear from the kar dash cunts
hedge positions
worship is not awaiting, nor is it an instrument
my allah as you are, to your feet
Let me get this right ... the war in Iraq was never won that all the politicians told us we had.
A war fought under the name of democracy when only the people of that nation can earn democracy it cannot be given.
At the end of the first gulf war, ignore all the promises the job needed to be finished then and that would have united an Iraqi people under one nation. Iraq was then left divided to fester so I wonder now how many of the Iraqi people actually support this group?
Just curious because IF ENOUGH OF THEM WANTED IT THEN SURELY IT WULD BE IN THEIR INTERESTS TO FIGHT. But not if you only get a western puppet in charge that serves foreign interests alone.
In the end the way this is shaping up I expect Iraq to be a 2nd Iran that only formed because of support given by the west to a puppet dictator. All a mess of our elites making I dod believe that will NOT GO AWAY.
have you ever seen life die?
Buy on loan from US, sold to ISIL, abandon loan from US.
Why not ship direct, is proving the situation by slight use?
have you seen life die?
no one wants an independent Kurdish nation, there is very little oil in the western part of Iraq, ISIS still has intelligence value in the not so covert war to topple Assad, US foreign policy has been to end government run by Islamic law (Shia law in Syria, Turkey, Iran,) and replace these governments with more business friendly moderates. that they have succeeded in forcing the remaining fundamentalists into a small area where they can be bombed and strafed out of existence, over the struggle to establish their own state in a small bit of mostly worthless desert should be considered a neocon foreign policy triumph. if obama fails to close the deal the neocons will hammer his party in the election. there is almost no sympathy for ISIS at any level of media discourse. its all rolling washingtons direction. this is the same strategy the GOP used on moderate democrats in 2000, attack moderates in order to isolate the core (extreme) liberals (the neocons are everywhere making policy) it didnt really work then, and probably wont work now, but thats the policy, obama and his party dont own washington they just work there.
seen a last breathe leave, then leave forever, Allah is all knowing, all consuming
we salute you, all kin
Past to Present: the ME make-up in a nutshell...
Quote: many of the inter-arab frontiers are the results of historical accident or were drawn by outside (primarily the british and to a somewhat lesser degree the french & dutch late 19th century-- later, followed by the american's, early in the spring of the 20th century) powers without reference to the desires or needs of the people.
the urge to unity, where it involves actual political or economic union and not just expressions of solidarity (yes, solidarity), is likely to make itself felt in particular areas less extensive than the whole broad expance of territoty from morocco to muskat(oman).
the arab world is made up of four natural regions: the Fertile Crescent (lebanon, syria, jordan, iraq) the Arabian Peninsula, the Nile Valley, and the Northern coast of Africa. each has a different background and history; each has problems of its own that the others do not share. north africa has a long association with the west which will impel it to seek its own unity and its own future not bound to cairo and the arab east. it is logical to expect yemen and the sheikhdoms of the persian gulf to come to close relationship with saudi arabia, bur not to expect the latter to merge its fortunes with those of egypt or iraq. egypt and the sudan are bound to be associated together in the natural unity of the nile valley, despite sudanese distrust of cairo, but they are well separated by deserts and the State of Israel from other centers of the arab world. this is the main reason why the union of egypt (1968-71) and syria in the U.A.R. has an air of artificiality about it and has deep gulfs to bridge (it was dissolved in 1971 when nasser was poison/assainated in sept/1970).
the greatest complexities are those which involve the countries of the Fertile Crescent, their relations among themselves and the other Arab states. the ideas of "greater Syria" and "Fertile Crescent unity" have long been held by writers, political leaders and many others in those lands. Syria in Ottoman times was considered as including what later became Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Transjordan. The nationalistic movements of Syria and Mesopotamia (later Iraq) had close ties. those who led the arab revolt during the first world war had no program for the division of the 'Fertile Crescent' into separate states. the mere existence of the separate mandates, however, had its effect on the direction of arab nationalism, and the tendencies toward unity were not strong enough to overcome the obstacles to it even after western control was withdrawn. personal and dynastic factors complicated the picture. the idea of greater syria, when associated with the ambitions of Abdullah of Transjordan, had little appeal for others. and the prospect of syrian-iraqi union, besides meeting objections from egypt and saudi arabia, ran the opposition of all who had vested interests in the continuation of a syrian republic. meanwhile lebanon, under largely christian leadership and having special bonds with the west, was mainly concerned with maintaining its own unique position.
in recent years (late 1950s, early 60s), when the combined impact of the global struggle and rivalries for arab leadership have split the states inthe 'Fertile Crescent' into rival camps, talk of their unity may seem out of place. from whichever side it comes, it tends to be interpreted as a move for partisan gain rather than for arab unity for its own sake." pgs 306-7 "In Defense of the ME" c1958 John C. Campbell
Note: nothing has changed since the great demarcation and the Israel State of affairs, which ironically (perhaps), actually keeps the whole fucking ME from going up in smoke?!?
by your name sake - you have never seen a head removed from the living body>? have you?