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The One Question About Ebola That Nobody Can Seem To Answer
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,
How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus? That is the one question about Ebola that nobody can seem to answer. The World Health Organization is reporting this as a fact, but no explanation is given as to why this is happening. We are just assured that Ebola “is not airborne” and that getting infected “requires close contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person”. If this is true, then how have more than 170 health workers caught the disease? These workers are dressed head to toe in suits that are specifically designed to prevent the spread of the virus. So how is this happening? I could understand a handful of “mistakes” by health workers, but this is unlike anything that we have ever seen in the history of infectious diseases. These health workers take extraordinary precautions to keep from getting the virus. If it is spreading so easily to them, what chance is the general population going to have?
Overall, more than 1,700 people have been officially infected and more than 900 people have officially died so far. But an official from Samaritan’s Purse says that the real numbers are probably far, far higher…
Ken Isaacs, the vice president of Program and Government Relations for Samaritan’s Purse, painted an even bleaker picture. According to the World Health Organization, West Africa has counted 1,711 diagnoses and 932 deaths, already, which could represent only a small fraction of the true number. “We believe that these numbers represent just 25 to 50 percent of what is happening,” said Isaacs.
In a six-hour meeting with the president of Liberia last week, Isaacs said workers from Samaritan’s Purse and SIM watched as the “somber” officials explained the gravity of the situation in their countries, where hundreds lie dead in the streets. “It has an atmosphere of apocalypse,” Isaacs said of the Liberia Ministry of Health’s status updates. “Bodies lying in the street…gangs threatening to burn down hospitals. I believe this disease has the potential to be a national security risk for many nations. Our response has been a failure.” Isaacs says that the epidemic is inciting panic worldwide that, in his opinion, may soon be warranted. “We have to fight it now here or we’re going to have to fight it somewhere else.”
In an official statement released on Monday, the World Health Organization even admitted that some potential Ebola patients “are being turned away”…
The recent surge in the number of cases has stretched all capacities to the breaking point. Supplies of personal protective equipment and disinfectants are inadequate. The outbreak continues to outstrip diagnostic capacity, delaying the confirmation or exclusion of cases and impeding contact tracing.
Some treatment facilities are overflowing; all beds are occupied and patients are being turned away.
Like I have said before, this has the potential to become the greatest health crisis that any of us have ever seen.
Up until this point, the outbreak has been primarily limited to Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia.
But now it is starting to pop up in more countries around Africa.
For example, the number of confirmed cases in Nigeria has reached ten…
Nigeria on Monday confirmed a new case of Ebola in the financial capital Lagos, bringing the total number of people in the country with the virus to 10.
Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said the latest confirmed case was a female nurse who came into contact with a Liberian-American man, Patrick Sawyer, who died of Ebola in a Lagos hospital on July 25.
In addition to Sawyer, another nurse who had contact with him died last week, while seven other people have been confirmed to have the virus in the city, he added.
And it looks like we may now have our first case of Ebola in Rwanda…
Rwanda’s health officials have placed a man suspected of suffering from Ebola in isolation at King Faisal Hospital Kigali. A statement by the Ministry of Health released on Sunday indicates that the patient had been tested with results still expected. Samples from the suspected case have been sent for testing to an international accredited laboratory, and results will be available in 48 hours, the statement said. The suspected case is a European medical student, according to the statement. It is the first suspected Ebola case in Rwanda since the outbreak of the virus in West Africa. The government urged the public to remain calm and vigilant, as the ministry is closely monitoring the situation.
All the preventive measures needed in line with national standards are already in place, including surveillance systems and emergency management systems, it assured, adding “Health workers have been trained across the country and are vigilant.” This will enable timely detection, notification and appropriate management of any suspected cases to safeguard Rwandans, the statement concluded.
Over in Ghana, a man that just died is being tested for the Ebola virus…
Ghana may be recording its first case of Ebola if tests on the blood samples of a Burkinabe man suspected to have died of Ebola proves positive. The man who was rushed to the Bawku Presby Hospital in the Upper East Region from Burkina Faso, died on arrival. The Medical Director at the Hospital, Dr Joseph Yaw Manu, who confirmed the incident to Citi News, said they sent the blood samples for testing because the man was brought in showing symptoms of Ebola. In an interview with Citi News, Dr. Manu said the patient was bleeding from his nostrils which raised their suspicion he may have died of the Ebola disease. Dr. Manu said they are awaiting the results from the blood sample test to verify the cause of death. He gave the assurance that the hospital is prepared to battle the disease. This is the fourth suspected case of Ebola reported in Ghana; two in Kumasi, one in Accra and now the Upper East Region.
Lastly, the little nation of Benin is now reporting two potential cases of Ebola…
Benin has reported two cases of the deadly Ebola virus in the west African country. Health Ministry official Aboubacar Moufiliatou said that a man suspected to have contracted the virus had died. “Fortunately, blood samples have been taken from the deceased patient to examine if his death was linked with Ebola,” Moufililatou told the state television Thursday night. He said another man has been quarantined after showing symptoms of the deadly virus after returning from the Nigerian city of Lagos. “Blood tests from the suspected case will be conducted in laboratories approved by the World Health Organization (WHO) to confirm or deny the infection,” he said. The WHO has declared the Ebola outbreak in West Africa to be an “international public health emergency” as the virus reportedly continues to spread through the region in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria. According to the latest WHO report, Ebola has killed 932 people in West Africa. The Ebola virus, a contagious disease for which there is no known treatment or cure, can be transmitted to humans from wild animals and also spreads through contact with the body fluids of an infected person or someone who has died of the disease. Medical doctors say common symptoms of Ebola include high fever and headaches, followed by bleeding from openings in the body. If the cases turn out to be Ebola, this would be the fifth country in Africa where the virus has spread.
We are quickly getting to the point where it will become impossible to contain this virus.
And if it spreads to the United States, we are going to be in a massive amount of trouble. The truth is that we are not prepared for an Ebola pandemic, and such a crisis would create a massive wave of panic and fear all over this country.
Unfortunately, despite the risks, we continue to bring people back to this country before we know that it is safe to do so…
Health officials in North Carolina said on Sunday they will require missionaries and others coming home after working with people infected with Ebola in Africa to be placed in quarantine.
The quarantine is set to last for three weeks from the last exposure to someone infected in the West African Ebola outbreak, which is centred in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, the officials said.
Missionaries from the North Carolina-based Christian aid groups SIM USA and Samaritan’s Purse have been working to help combat the world’s worst outbreak of the disease. Two of the relief workers, Dr Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, contracted the disease and are being cared for at Emory University hospital in Georgia.
Why couldn’t those individuals just be quarantined over there an extra three weeks in a safe area and then come home?
All it takes is one sick person. Once the disease gets here and starts spreading, there isn’t much that we can do about it. There is no cure for Ebola, and according to the New York Times it is going to be quite a while before one is potentially available…
The drugs that could potentially treat those already infected and the vaccines to protect healthy people from infection are all in the earliest stages of testing. And even if they do pass muster in clinical trials, they cannot be produced in large quantities quickly enough to stem the widening epidemic anytime soon.
And the CDC agrees with this assessment…
“We do not know how to treat Ebola or vaccinate against it - and it will be a long time before we do.”
Those are very sobering words.
For now, our health officials are telling us that we have very little to be concerned about.
But they can’t even tell us why more than 170 health workers have caught the virus.
So let’s hope for the best, but let us also prepare for the worst.
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They suspect that the first case of this strain was in a two year old.
Being that tptb now desire absolute mayem around the world, i wouldnt be surprised if someone squirted that crap in the kids bottle. Then virus spreads globally. It becomes a huge, wonderful distraction for all the other crap going on. Lets face it, america's leadership perception is spiraling down the toilet fast. If it becomes a global pandemic with a million dead and america produces a vaccine to halt the spread, she will be viewed as a savior again.
Ill bet the virus wipes out a prison population or two before that happens. They would love to purge the dregs of society in the process.
How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus?
Because it's being done on purpose, or it's an outright hoax.
"Because it's being done on purpose, or it's an outright hoax."
You may be right about the cause of the infections. However, do not underestimate the lethality of the virus. A close friend of mine was infected in 1995 while visiting kenya for a week. Upon his return to India, the doctors in Bombay first diagnosed him with an unknown strain of Malaria since his symptoms were high fever and chills. He died after one week from multiple organ failures. Now this guy grew up in India and based on my limited experience, I can tell you that his body had probably seen almost every disease out there. He was 23 when he passed.
The point I am trying to make is that Ebola is really lethal and I really really hope that this is not human-caused.
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Against my better judgement, I am going to indulge you just this once.
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. And no, I am not lying. I have no reason to.
Roll the asteroid!,already!!
If it's not human-caused, it's human-permitted (like most problems). Sorry about your friend; I suspect we're going to see a lot more sad stories over time though.
p.s. Your avatar does not match your moniker (that circuit is extremely stable, although it alternates values). I realize no one cares and I'm an insensitive jerk.
That guy puckered my ass in less than four minutes. Sobering stuff.
To be fair they maybe using respirators that are sufficient to filter airborne particulate small enough to block ebola but since we know how compassionate these organizations are like the CDC they probably are making them reuse the respirators and other protective gear without decontaminating them first....
And if this the case I am sure idiocracy is not to blame since only the healthcare industry is exempt from the general trend and this has nothing to do with improper storage, maintanence training, face fitting of respirators including changing and disposing of the filters on them after being exposed to patients with ebola.
I'm sure it is only the VA that is the only dysfunctional healthcare organization in the US that cuts corners.
I'm sure the bureaucracy that has never spent a day down in the trenches and lives in fantasy land that has no regard for people and only bottom lines are not to partially blame for these healthcare workers getting sick since they would never condone subpar equipment and safety in the name of saving money for the company so they can get a bigger bonus come christmas time.
Totally agree. Very well said. And this is why I will not stick around to fight this one.
Where would you go?
This person said they work in a hospital up thread, so I'm guessing he or she won't be reporting for work.
My wife is a doctor, although an oncology specialist. She's board certified internal medicine nonetheless. I'm sure "directives" will be issued to try to force them to report. She won't be reporting for this jack wagon clusterfuck under any circumstances...if I have to handcuff her to the table.
At that point the doom genie is fully out of the bottle and everything will be in complete collapse. Let them come and try to force her to work.
That would be immediately hazardous to anyone that would try. I can bleed someone out faster than Ebola. Nobody is going to force my wife to sacrifice her life (and mine) for this. They should have kept this shit over there.
When a house catches fire, you don't move the fucker across town...catching other houses on fire along the way...in order to put it out at the station.
This is calculated mass murder. Insanity.
IndyPat Good man, you're 100% right. You and she, out of town pronto!
We already know (WHO podcasts) that the number of reported cases / deaths is almost certainly a fraction of the real respective numbers. If "potentially infected" (for which I read "infected and possibly infectious") patients are being turned away, where do these patients then go? Some may just return home to take theur chances, other more adventurous folk may choose to travel further afield in search of aid.
With the CDC now "strongly hinting" that the incubation time prior to develoment of the initial non-specific symptoms may be 10 days (for infection by close contact / indirect contact), certainly some of those days with the patient being infectious to a greater or lesser extent, just how "efficient" will such a patient be as a walking vector?? Maybe we'll have quite a good idea in a fortnight's time.
just out.
updated 9:54 PM EDT, Tue August 12, 2014
WHO says it believes the virus has infected 1,848 people and killed 1,013, making this the deadliest Ebola outbreak in history.
The difference between this outbreak and other Ebola outbreaks is that traditional methods of stopping the virus from spreading -- protective gear, contact tracing, etc. -- don't seem to be working fast enough, said Dr. Marie-Paule Kieny, WHO's assistant director-general. The health care systems in the affected countries are also weak, so resources are scarce.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/12/health/ebola-outbreak/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
See see see todja!
Shit is not to be trivialized.
Never ever has been
Gosh, people, over the years there have been a dozen or so non-fiction, serious scientific accounts of prior outbreaks of Ebola, Marburg, etc., etc., etc., and never ever has it been easy to stop, treat .... it is transmissible through just about every everyday medium and actively, seeks hosts, almost as if it were conscious (or so described)
The CDC and rest of the world are downplaying this thing.
They scream bloody murder to hunker down and you got an economy shuts, store shelves empty, shortages, looting, gangs roaming the street and the End of Days that so many here seem to want to bring upon mankind.
Don't ask for what you think you want, for you might just get it good and hard.
This shit hits and the economy starts folding, social order disappears, there will be martial law and those you most detest will take fascist charge, your worst dreams of a new Hitlerian era will descend upon you at light fucking speed.
So I should short the hell out of JCP if it lights off here in the US? Got it!
/s
Martial law won't stop Ebola virus.
Martial law requires people to "go out" and enforce it.
Spend a few moments to meditate on that.
Everyone goes home and hunkers down. Even looters may think twice about hitting the streets. We will see soon enough.
When they can still count the exact number infected and killed, and the numbers are in this range (far less than 1%), then it is NOT "out of control". Nice political hyperbole.
Call me when they lose count and have only estimates, and the numbers are orders of magnitude higher. Then you can call it "Out of control".
For now it's only a Controlled Brush Fire
I dig ya, Captain. You know this.
But you are being WAY, WAY too trusting of Federated Space Command or whatever it was. Truth will mean loss of control. That...can't happen.
Every single fucking thing that you've heard since the "decision" was made to bring this to our country...that's the demarcation.....every thing you hear from "authorities" from that point forward is pure lies.
Lies. Lies. Lies.
For national security's sake, dontchaknow.
A rational option for someone who thought he might be infected (especially if he was a sociopath) would be to hop on a jet for a Western country where he might get a superior level of treatment.
I'm guessing most Liberians don't have passports, but if it starts spreading through the noveau riche in Nigeria, it could be a different story.
Perhaps an option.
But rational is pushing it...as I understand the word.
I would suspect that one person got infected on accident, and then walked around spreading outside of containment it for ~20 days.
that may be the most likely scenario.
in general, bes tplace to go to catch a new and interesting bug is in a hospital... I presume they are more interesting in poor countries.
An "unfounded" theory prevalent among medical r&d folks is that the mother nature is at war against human infestation of the planet and research in developing medicines to cure diseases is futile. Everytime a disease is eradicated, a new more potent and lethal disease appears out of no where. AIDS, Ebola are relatively new diseases on evolutionary scale and are more lethal.
tropical zones produce more viruses for the same reason they produce more insects and plants. in the past the rest of the world wasn't as connected to those zones.
Occam's Razor says they had close contact with infected fluids. You've got people walking around a shithole incubating a virus for up to 21 days without symptoms. Probably fairly easy to catch in that environment.
Africans are much more genetically diverse than non-Africans, on average. It is a great place for a virus that mutates easily to mutate.
There's probably an airborne strain. If so... and if it has the same incubation period... the numbers should start doubling, then tripling, within a couple/few weeks. Hopefully, this is not the case and its just lax practices/protocols.
Even if it is not airborne, the odds that it will be used essentially as a weapon/terror are uncomfortably high.
Africans are much more genetically diverse than non-Africans, on average...LOL, they are the only race to have zero Neanderthal DNA. They remain the only non-modern race and definitely, the least desirable race to breed with; heck, black men don't even want to screw black women and turn to monkeys instead.
CDC says it's airborne. See my earlier post.
Where is the list? I want my fucking list!
Bleeding from the anus? How do we know these people weren't just arrested in Chicago or something?
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Wow, is it time for a quarterly estimated already?
'Doctors With Out Borders' are actually sex tourists without condoms. What's so hard about that?
Great post!!!
I'll defer to miffed... She has a professional knowledge and calmness with all things microscopic and deadly.
Quit farting already...
SBD
lol. Tell Mrs. Rebel hello.
That is a good question. Good luck with your IRS audit.
Obama opened the borders at the same time. You don't have to question ZeroHedgers. We know what time it is.
Exactly.
As we say in some "program" circles, there are no coincidences.
170 healthcare workers have been infected because they are around the infected, and because this strain is airborne not in the sense of the cold or flu. but from the breath of the infected, as well as their coughs. this strain of ebola seems to live for longer periods outside of the body. so when the bodily secretions dry, moving air can loft them so that they are respirated. this strain of the virus has a quantified incubation period of from 4 to 21 days, and this strain has been shown to infect through the lungs when a sufficient number of virus are respirated.
this is a level 4 biotoxic fila-virus. they wear pressurized suits in double airlocks just working with this in a lab. but in the field they are dealing with dying people, caring for them etc. etc. using tyvek, rubber gloves and industrial mask, in an environment where those mask are soaked in sweat in about 30 minutes. president hubris obama says we can contain this, etc. etc. he is completely full of manure. unless all infected are quarantined in a level 4 environment with all workers in level 4 containment.
these numbers may not go the full 1.92 infection rate that all graphs are showing, but the infections will still climb into the millions. i don't see any real world efforts to stop this anyway, it is as if they want this to go worldwide.
" it is as if they want this to go worldwide"
Yes, it feels like a test run.
Test run using Ebola?
More like..."fuck it, let's do it live" kinda run.
Like for keeps.
Don't you see? They're stopping it by transporting infected victims to every continent.
The NWO de-population experiment has gone live!
We know what they tell us..so we know nothing.
BTW, had troubling dream the other night. Large yellow striped tropical spider came into my dream then ran and hid under something and I couldn't find it..but I knew it was there.
The subconscious is an amazing vehicle.
huh?
Dreams of spiders are linked to having a veneral disease.
170 Health Care Workers were exposed to Ebola through a lack of protection on their ears. Protocols call for Safety Goggles and face
masks for respiration protection but the ear canals are also an area in need of full protection from airborne pathogens. Currently, the HCW are not covering their ears correctly. Infectious Disease MDs made the same mistake in Toronto during the SARS outbreak and I had to call the Medical Officer of Health to correct their protocol way back then.
This current Ebola outbreak is a similar situation to the SARS outbreak
and the disease transmission is likely through the poor protocol for safety in this case too. The CDC certanly understands that transmission is most likely through the ears as they are not being protected to the same degreee as respiration and eye contact IMHO.
It penetrates protective suits?
It must be radiation sickness.
It's not feasible that this many health workers made an error in self protection.
Even if it's it was as contagious as measles they would be safe.
The only thing that penetrates is radiation.
Alpha particle radiation causes all these symptoms.
Wow not got that many negatives before especially in an hour.
I must have hit a nerve with the thought police.
http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/preparedness/radiation/f...
Acute radiation syndrome (ARS), or radiation sickness, is usually caused when much of the human body is exposed to a high dose of radiation over the course of a few minutes. Survivors of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombs and firefighters responding to the Chernobyl nuclear power plant event in 1986 experienced ARS. The immediate symptoms of ARS are nausea, vomiting and diarrhea; later, bone marrow depletion may lead to weight loss, loss of appetite, flu-like symptoms, infection and bleeding. The survival rate depends on the radiation dose. For those who do survive, recovery may take a few weeks to two years.
Most of them weren't in protective suits. They got infected in the regular health clinics before it was recognized as an ebola epidemic.
Not sure how that is possible, since we knew about the Ebola outbreak back in March on Zerohedge. One might hope medical professionals would know about these things before us.
Patient 1 was Feb 11th, I believe.
Africa is a third world country needing first world response and talent/education. Simply can't happen with the speed of this thing.
Even South Africa is on a razors edge to slipping back in time, despite the Gucci, Maserati's and Tag Heuers on display.
It's a thin veneer.
Which politician said Africa is a country?
Biden i think
Liberia Expats facebook page. - https://www.facebook.com/LiberiaExpats
Mongers in Liberia - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?867-Liberia
Rusty - those guys are fooking nuts
Choose your poison -
1. Containment and sterilization techniques do not work and Ebola can live outside containment and not require a human host.
2. Ebola can be picked up and transmitted via aerosol.
3. Ebola can be transmitted via fleas, lice, Mosquitos or via things like fruit bats contaminating fruit via bites or droppings.
Remember the Black Death! It was mysterious too.
I'm beginning to believe its mosquitoes.
Too logical.
The reason is that it hit a part of the world that didn't have a fully developed health care system, i.e., one with copious amounts of bleach and stuff like sinks and soap. There is no mystery here.
About the health care workers - it likely isn't infections from just dealing with the patients.
It wouldn't take many of the workers to get sick, to then spread it quickly in the "safe zones" - worker washrooms, fridges, or even shaking hands between shifts.
It's a tiny, angry nano-Trojan fucker they are dealing with, and they might be assuming safe zones are free of it just by spraying bleach.
How fast is EVD spreading, and how out of control is it, when new Ebola cases are growing at 4% PER DAY!? Too damn fast for the W.H.O. and the C.D.C., for 2 lame examples, fast talkers as they are.
Liberia is the place to watch, with 45 new cases in the period 8/7-9, on a base of 554, up 8.1%, but you won't get estimates of the consequences of disease-spread-numbers like this from any feel-good gov't. website or any print or broadcast corporate media.
Go down to the Liberia numbers, and take it one eye at a time:
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_11_ebola/en/
Geez this has been going on damn near a month, and theres only 1700 cases in the entire continent? Hardly a catastrophe. Its contained and the reason thee is not a drug for it or will be a drug for it is because there isnt enough cases per year to justify the cost. If there were by now 17000 cases then we havesomething to worry about.
AFAIK it started in March 2014. In that time 10000 people probably died of measle.
Best available data- this outbreak began in DECEMBER 2013.
But the ebola virus has been present (undetected) and infecting people in West Africa undetected since at least 2006, and potentially as early as 1998. There are thousands of LASV and YFV fatalities for EBOV to "hide" among each year, and no one was looking for EBOV or running tests for it since it wasn't known to exist in West Africa.
So, Santa has been turned then.
I lived in Africa for years, Guinea, and I can tell you nothing works there. It is a scary proposition to depend upon the government to actually do something, or even do something right, unless it directly enriches them. If there is even one high tech pressurized suit in Guinea, by tomorrow it will be (torn/inoperative/stolen/striped of valuable parts/ dirty/infected/lost, or all of the above.)
Also, I wonder if the high lethal and communicative aspects reflect human bio-engineering. But I'll leave that to the conspiracy folks.
From a different Thread found elsewhere:
"It seems to be a common assumption that Ebola isn't Aerosol and cant be transmitted via inhalation (a lot of news stories I read seem to make this assumption when talking about a story surrounding an infected person). While this is true for SOME strains of Ebola (4 out of 5), there is a strain that is Aerosol and transmittable via inhalation; the Zaire strain, which this current virus is a genetic variant of. Because of this I find that a lot of the precautions being taken, especially at airports, and in planes involving visibly sick people, really aren't going to stand a chance for containing this virus (they seem to just let other passengers go assuming they are not also infected due to not actually touching the suspected person...). Truth is an airplane is extremely close to a "hospital environment", which is the perfect condition for Ebola-Zaire to transmit via aerosol. For those that say that Ebola isn't aerosol or transmittable via inhalation, please check out the follow .gov sources that blatantly say otherwise."
Australia Group Common Control List Handbook – Volume II - V13.Ebola virus
Exposure / Infection Routes:
-Inhalation (lungs): Aerosols
Human Transmissibility:
-Yes (direct and respiratory)
Human-to human transfer usually occurs through direct contact with bodily fluids from an infected individual though aerosol transmission can occur between individuals in close proximity to one another.
[link to www.defence.gov.au]
Federal Ministry of Health Abuja, Nigeria - Ebola Virus Disease Fact Sheet
How is Ebola Virus Disease spread?
6.Inhalation of contaminated air in hospital environment;
[link to www.health.gov.ng]
CDC defines transmission for Ebola as follows.
1 Casual contact is defined as a) being within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) or within the room or care area for a prolonged period of time (e.g., healthcare personnel, household members) while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment (i.e., droplet and contact precautions–see Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations); or b) having direct brief contact (e.g., shaking hands) with an EVD case while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment (i.e., droplet and contact precautions–see Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations). At this time, brief interactions, such as walking by a person or moving through a hospital, do not constitute casual contact.
* Outbreak affected countries include Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Lagos, Nigeria, as of 4-August-2014
[link to www.cdc.gov]
the thing with that is that the current ebola outbreak is actually a new strain they havent seen before. i'd be willing to bet this new strain is airborne after looking at all the numbers of infected that we know about.
Basically every strain is a new strain, there are minor mutations each year and between and within each significant outbreak, but those tiny differences can have huge practical implications.
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/phylogenetic-analysis-of-guin...
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/clock-rooting-further-demonst...
"Big things have small beginnings."
David - Prometheus
http://youtu.be/DCdQkgSwNoU
Pretty much nailed it.
MSM has gone dark on ebola. NBC evening news did not mention it AT ALL tonight (it's all Robin Williams ad nauseum).
Gone dark because they have been told to? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Robin Williams selflessly offed himself to take the heat off his Homeboy Obama until his poll numbers come up. Fuck me folks....the media and their non stop masturbating to re-runs of Williams comedy sketches and interviews has left me numb. I haven't felt this violated since Anna Nicole's bloated corpse was lying around waiting for burial. Enough already....one more day this non stop shit and I might hang myself.
Kill your tv instead.
Hmmmm.
Low risk exposuresA low risk exposure includes any of the following
1 Casual contact is defined as a) being within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) or within the room or care area for a prolonged period of time (e.g., healthcare personnel, household members) while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/case-definition.html?
Doesn't sound like "not airborne" to me.
I suspect that most health care worker contamination is due to exposure associated with taking off the PAPR device or from contaminated suites then leaving infectious bodily fluids in the environment that later infects the health care team members.
Basically, people are being sloppy or are just ignorant about proper technique.
Ebola Reston was found to be airbore in the monkey house in Virginia, the strain is very close to the Ziare, so close that it reacts with the Ziare blood serum. This infected humans but didn't make them sick. Maybe nature found the species jump it needed.
What is the average American shmuck going to do with these final days?
That’s where we profit…. However, groups may structure mucho debt in such a way that it self-liquidates after their Ebolian self-liquefies.
When I get EBV, I'm going to Disneyland!
‘AIRBORNE’ Ebola Virus – Public Health Agency of Canada! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k38ttMBU0UE
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php
Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids (1, 2). Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals, suggesting possible transmission through aerosol droplets (2, 6, 28). In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated (1, 6, 13).
Ebola: 20 CDC Quarintine Locations in USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaJol8i4C8
CDC Changes Criteria for Ebola Transmission; admits "being within 3 feet" or "in same room" can cause infectionHere it is, the patent for the current version of EBOLA
West African Ebola outbreak caused by new strain of disease: studyhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/us-guinea-ebola-idUSBREA3G11W20140417Growing concerns over ‘in the air’ transmission of Ebola http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423
Now, researchers from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and the country's Public Health Agency have shown that pigs infected with this form of Ebola can pass the disease on to macaques without any direct contact between the species.
In their experiments, the pigs carrying the virus were housed in pens with the monkeys in close proximity but separated by a wire barrier. After eight days, some of the macaques were showing clinical signs typical of ebola and were euthanised.
One possibility is that the monkeys became infected by inhaling large aerosol droplets produced from the respiratory tracts of the pigs.
One of the scientists involved is Dr Gary Kobinger from the National Microbiology Laboratory at the Public Health Agency of Canada. He told BBC News this was the most likely route of the infection.
"What we suspect is happening is large droplets - they can stay in the air, but not long, they don't go far," he explained.
"But they can be absorbed in the airway and this is how the infection starts, and this is what we think, because we saw a lot of evidence in the lungs of the non-human primates that the virus got in that way."
I lived in Africa for years, Guinea, and I can tell you nothing works there. It is a scary proposition to depend upon the government to actually do something, or even do something right, unless it directly enriches them. If there is even one high tech pressurized suit in Guinea, by tomorrow it will be (torn/inoperative/stolen/striped of valuable parts/ dirty/infected/lost, or all of the above.)
Also, I wonder if the high lethal and communicative aspects reflect human bio-engineering. But I'll leave that to the conspiracy folks.
Why Al-queda and their ilk have not weaponized this via human delivery is a mystery to me.
What makes you think they haven't?
Maybe because they are not the BIG BOOGY MAN that we are told they are 24/7.
Saudi Arabia banned people from infected countries from the Hajj. Arab airlines are shutting down flights to and from infected countries. I think muslims are a little more germophobic, and even the extremists are not a doomsday cult hellbent on wiping themselves out.
Hmmm....
http://guardianlv.com/2014/08/ebola-patients-wastes-go-into-public-sewage/
"Atlanta’s news agencies have revealed that the Ebola patient’s wastes, including feces and urine, are going into the city’s public sewer system. They go on to say there is no risk of infection to the general public, because their waste management practices will kill any virus flushed into the system.
Atlanta’s sewer system covers about a 19 square mile area, comprising about 15 percent of Atlanta’s total area. Their website acknowledges “but this system is aging as well, and sanitary sewer overflows occur frequently.” The city has four water reclamation centers and 14 pump stations that pump waste water flows into the sewer system.
There is documentation from similar viruses in the past that these can survive in liquid or dry materials for a number of days. Authorities assure that “we do not think there will be any secondary cases” as a result of having the Ebola patients staying at Emory. Since the news broke of the Ebola patients’ wastes flowing directly into the public sewage system, many people are not this confident."
I imagine that the risk of transmission via the tap water is virtually nil because of chlorination et al, but what about those overflows and sewage back-ups? And, something the article doesn't mention: what about the people who work on the sewer system? Are they going to be wearing appropriate protective suits when inspecting the pipes?
murphy's law.
ask people who lived in Milwaukee when cryptospiredeum (please excuse if mispelled) was in their watersystem and shouldn't have been.
lots of people sick, those with weak immune systems died
"Milwaukee when cryptospiredeum (please excuse if mispelled) was in their watersystem"
Not minimizing the Milwaukee incident or its effect, but cryptosporidium (sp?) is commonly carried and spread by animals that frequent our back yards (like ebola in Africa). My cats got it in our back yard, walking on harness and leash. People in AF might get ebola the same way.
I say various radical islam crazys are helping it spread by transporting infected people.
That is the wrong question.
If 170 healthcare workers have been infected, how many ebola patients WW?
probably because this is how they 'disinfect' their gear?
https://tribwpix.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/452782842.jpg
it's a far cry from an autoclave, or anything remotely close to sterile.
If this shit gets any worse im going to commandeer myself a sailboat, some solar panels and a desalination unit and go live on the ocean
You can float around in the pacific plastic gyre and use the plastic bits to build a new island
Waterworld 2.0: no global flood, just all the land is fully of deadly disease. Giant melted together plastic islands, and algae bio-fuels to power the kickass jetskis.
I'm getting in my Gulfstream 450 and hauling some ass.
rich ass!
and then what?
you have to stop somewhere to refuel.
has world war Z taught you nothing?
It taught me that
A) Hollywood never ceases to amaze me in how they can slaughter a good book/story
B) Pitt should have hung up his spurs after "Fight Club" ( a rare instance that A) was not the case)
C) Israeli IDF chick actresses with crew cuts are surprisingly hot. Even with one hand. Hope she wasn't a lefty.
Good idea..Maybe that Fukushima sea water will counteract the virus.
It's unlikely we'll get the truth about Ebola from any government, in part, because they don't know what they're dealing with. If they say x number of patients are sick or dead, we should multiply that by a factor of 10. In Africa, sick people don't trust doctors, whites, government etc and are more likely to seek help from a witch doctor.
The point is to destroy America, Americans and the dollar. Ebola is a great way to do it.
Assume and prepare for the worst.
Witch doctors kill less than the FDA, less side effects.
I think if you apply the standard BLS* formula, you get a much more realistic number of dead from EBV.
*Ignore corrections in this case. You can't correct for dead. Only "mostly" dead.
Might be a blessing in disguise. With WWIII just around the corner, if this gets going fast enough, it may stop the war. I'd rather die from ebola than in a nuclear/biochemical war, where hundreds of Chernobyls would occur or where nuclear plants are directly targeted.
Given the choice between a violent death bleeding from my eyeballs and anus and a nuke. I'm going with the nuke. Just saying.
But if you have a chance of dodging the infection, the non-nuke option would be best for those who survive.
One shouldn't knock violent death bleeding from the eyeballs and anus until they've tried it. Just saying.
Nuke for me too, thanks.
Skip the air burst, too, if you please; bring that shit right down the chimney!
What's curious is that medical workers in Africa have always used these inadequare precautions, and yet (to my knowledge) their attrition rate has never been this high. So what changed?
This is an urban outbreak (c.f. SARS) and previous eruptions were more rural and with more robust intervention for containment IIRC
EDIT: Metaphorically, given the greater number of vectors in an urban environment for spreading of what is clearly a more virulent strain, the equivalence would be like a rural volunteer fire department showing up to control a skyscraper blaze. Higher viral loads, greater number of victims and the same limited protection as in the past adds up to more disease (fire) fighters getting killed this time. Plus there's that whole undetermined respiratory vector potentially playing a part....
There is yet another possibility to consider...that being that 170 med workers is actually not a very high number in comparison to the REAL numbers of deaths and infected.
The number of med workers MUST be reported correctly or nearly correctly as most of the are tied to a modern system in the west or europe and have families that know where they are.
The local populations, however, are statistics that can be manipulated as easily as the US gov manipulates the unemployment numbers or housing starts.
I have a friend that just came back from Liberia. I have 2 more that are in Angola and several acquaintances in Nigeria. The Angola guys say its there. Everywhere. Where is Angola being reported? The Nigeria guys say it is MAYHEM. Extreme chaos. The mate that I chatted with doesn't think he is coming back EVER and locals are wearing masks if they can get them.
EVERYONE believes that its airborne. Infections are happening due to non-physical contact. The difference between what THEY claim is airborne and what WE claim is airborne is droplet size. A sneeze from a guy next to you WILL LIKELY infect you if he is a carrier.
My buddy in Nigeria thinks the real number is in the 10's of thousands, not thousands, based upon what he hears on the ground. If that is true then 170 is nothing. Also, if that is true, good luck recruiting more med workers from the west.
Ye Gads!
....Also, if that is true, good luck recruiting more med workers from the west....
If what you wrote is true or even close to it...
I think just "good luck" covered it for just about everyone. Globally.
Damn, dude.....
Hopefully they dont quarantine everyone together since that would be a death sentence to all of them if any just one of them is infected.
Wonder if this is more of the experiment...
Long Vitamin C, colloidal silver, and UV tanning beds.
Tanning beds?
Is the plan to preempt Ebola with melanoma?
If caught, I would just want to zap the fuckers while my tanned anus bleeds out.
Wait! If your tanned anus is female, I at least want to see it before it bleeds out. Don't waste your ass, it's the only thing you ever had to share. I, generally have found people to be dumb as a box of rocks, and unwilling to learn.
You may be different, though. Don't be dumb as a box of rocks.
add baking soda for no acidity & make it liposomale to allow for the mega dose needed to prevent the killer haemoragies
Or take a few Tums before your Vitamin C dose.
You could try asking the Rothschild family. I'm sure they would tell you something since its their asses that 7 billion people are going to be after if the Ebola looks weaponized. Or if war needs to be stopped. or when the financial system collapses.
There is a good article on Maxkeiser.com about that scumbucket family.
contrary to what the lying assholes at cdc and who say, ebola is transmitted via airborne mechanisms, and i am aware of one study proving it for a particular strain. i suspect that it holds for all strains. the cdc and who are deliberately lying because they follow the orders of the rotschild satanists who are spreading this virus on purpose.
under no circumstance, for any reason whatsoever, should the usa have ever allowed anyone with ebola on these shores. and that stupid fuck mayor in atlanta should be tried for crimes against humanity.
there is the possibility that this epidemic has been faked like so many other lies from governments, but if it is real, the satanists are seeking to wipe out as much humanity, or as prince phillip calls them, "eaters", as possible.
link?
Ebola virus - Pathogen Safety Data Sheets
Scrolll down to MODE OF TRANSMISSION
There are a few ways it can spread even if not airborn, which I wouldnt be surprised it was.
- insects..mosquitos, fleas, flies,
- birds
- animals
- wash areas
- sharing or touching anything..computers, phones, doorknobs
- sweat..
Wheezing hookers still kosher?
Unlike the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, we now have the vector of jet aircraft to help disseminate diseases far and wide...and very rapidly.
...this, too. from the Canadian Health Dept:
"In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated"
The virus can survive several days outside a host at room temperature, in either fluids or dried material.
I'd avoid airports and airplanes that serve Africa.
Here's a fun fact about Ebola: Prolonged cases are often complicated by the occurrence of long-term problems, such as inflammation of the testicles,
Bollocks!
Blue Balls?
the question is "does ebola make your dick fall off"
Might as well Bro, cause once you get it, there won't be anyplace for you to stick it, other than up your own ass.
If you catch it I don't think you'll care.
No, but when blood is dripping from it in ever increasing amounts you will probably not be thinking too much about getting laid.
you're forgetting this is the part of the world where people believe sex with virgins cures HIV
In Africa, AIDS became generic for death and dying, regardless the disease, or malady.
Can you say false flag to sell the untested ebola vaccine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7wNfRCuOZE This was used by the department of defense successfully according to her website - which keeps getting attacked
I've been asking that question for weeks now.
US military bioweapon research gone awry?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/robert-wenzel/is-the-us-military-responsible-for-the-ebola-breakout/
Or on purpose?
http://www.chiptatum.com/
The first confirmed deaths in the USA will be labeled as death by Malaria to stall the panic.
nah, the first victums in Amerika will be listed as police shootings, since we are so used to that by now. ho-hum
Malaria is fever, unbelieveable chills, vomiting and headache. Plasmodium vivax is every other day. I don't know about the other plasmodiums. Point is, malaria is not like Ebola and would be hard to fake.
Well, West Nile has been found in Indianapolis skeeters.
And it's been one hell of a wet summer.
Just in time for the State Fair.
"Well, West Nile has been found in Indianapolis skeeters."
Result of the stagnant water behind Aswan dam, and subsequently (it was written) the importation of tires from Egypt in which water had promoted the mosquitoes to lay eggs which hatched in the US. I haven't recently checked that story but it was what was published at the time of first identification of the virus. Mosquitoes = flying hypodermic needles.
If just found in Indy I'm surprised. In northern IL, warnings began about a decade ago.
"... first case in the Western Hemisphere being identified in New York City in 1999." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Nile_virus