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Russia Sanctions Blowback: Finland's Largest Dairy Lays Off 800, Spain Seeks EU Aid, Poland Complains To WTO

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Well that didn't take long. Mere day after Russia announced its ban on Western nation food imports, European countries are scrambling (as we explained why here). Greece has already expressed dismay, but now Spanish officials will meet with EU leaders to discuss offsetting the country’s estimated up to $800 million in food and agriculture losses due to sanctions. Poland is pissed and has complained to the WTO claiming "Russia has broken international law in both its embargo;" and Finland's largest dairy producer has announced 800 layoffs due to the sanctions. When does Europe tell Washington - enough!

 

Spain demands aid... (despite Rajoy's support for anti-Russia sanctions)

Spanish Agriculture Minister Isabel Garcia Tejerina said the restrictions have prompted her ministry to convene a meeting with the European Commission in Brussels on Thursday.

 

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The Spanish government has estimated that agricultural losses will amount to €337 million, or about 1.8 percent of Spanish exports. Other groups, like Spain’s opposition Socialist Party, have estimated the losses to be higher- €581 million.

 

Last year, 37,000 tons of tomatoes, 35,000 tons of peaches, and 33,000 tons of mandarin oranges were exported from Spain to Russia, according to Spain’s Small Farmer’s Association (UPA).

 

“The decision that was adopted involves many political issues that exist between Russia and the European Union, and not just the EU. As a result, it may be necessary to compensate us for these political decisions - the producers who work all year and want to at least be paid enough at least to cover production costs,” Lorenzo Ramos, Secretary General of UPA, told RT.

Finland suffers...

The largest Finnish dairy producer Valio send a forced leave of the staff with factories working for export to Russia. This is stated in the message of concern.

 

Restructuring will affect Finnish enterprises' Valio: Plant in Haapavesi ( cheese Oltermanni), Seinäjoki ( oil Valio), Vantaa ( cream cheese Viola) and warehouse in Lappeenranta. Concern revise employment contracts of all the employees of these companies. " Some of the staff ( according to preliminary estimates, 800 people) can go on forced leave to fully clarify the situation, with a portion of employees will not be renewed temporary employment contracts, "- said in a statement.

Poland complains...

Poland's agriculture minister went on television to announce the country was taking action against Russia's new import ban. "We believe Russia has broken international law in both its embargo against Poland and its embargo against the EU," Marek Sawicki said.

 

Russia banned the import of Polish fruit and vegetables in early August - a move Sawicki said would cost Poland 0.6 percent of GDP.

 

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"If a WTO member state believes another WTO member state has taken a measure that is not in conformity with WTO rules, the affected WTO member state may request mediation," attorney and WTO expert Eric Pickett said.

And the Czechs are in for some EU assistance...

  • *ZEMAN BACKS EU AID TO CZECH AGRICULTURAL COS. AFTER SANCTIONS

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S&P 500 nears all-time highs as US companies do not seem to suffer at all... We are sure Merkel is watching carefully.

 

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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:15 | 5088499 vyeung
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EU are a bunch of morons! How can you let those criminals in DC/London tell you to jump into a hell hole and you do it.

EU deserves the blowback!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:24 | 5088561 therevolutionwas
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I think it's sink or swim for both EU and US bankers and politicians.  But they don't realize there's one hell of a water fall just down stream.

 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:16 | 5088512 Urban Redneck
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Where do these retards think that these wonderful "compensation" handouts are going to come from?

Last time I check there wasn't a magic money tree in either Brussels or Berlin.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:18 | 5088519 NOTaREALmerican
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Where's the EU central bank?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:27 | 5088583 Global Hunter
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no you are wrong, Belgium has a UST tree

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:17 | 5088523 Villageidiot777
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http://www.valio.com/valio-commences-co-operation-negotiations-to-adapt-...

 

A little bit better source for you. "The negotiations concern all staff at those sites, a total of some 800 people." not yet laid off, usually negotiations means half of the people are laid off.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:05 | 5088780 25or6to4
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@villageidiot777
That's what I have read in Finnish newspapers also. They are all giddy that milk prices might drop 10%. That is until milk producers decrease production to meet demand. Still pales in comparison to MicroSoft laying off 1,100 employees about a month ago.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:40 | 5089281 SpanishGoop
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"That is until milk producers decrease production..."

Try to find a cow who can do that.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 02:00 | 5090978 Villageidiot777
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1100 in Finland. And again could you fix your news ZH. Now you might as well use CNN source for Russian news.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:18 | 5088526 Itchy and Scratchy
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Looks like all the mail order Russian cows will be gettin' an extra milkin'!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:25 | 5088531 ToNYC
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All Politics is Local.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:22 | 5088548 roadhazard
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The West is too fat, this will be good for them.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:23 | 5088553 socalbeach
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Ecuador's response to the EU was short and to the point.

13.08.2014

Ecuador is not going to ask permission from the EU to deliver products in the Russian Federation

Ecuador is not going to ask permission from the EU to deliver products in the Russian Federation. This was announced on Tuesday, Ecuador's President Rafael Correa. Latin America is not part of the European Union.

As said Correa, "let's wait for the official complaints (from the EU), and we will give her the answer."

Earlier it was reported that EU countries are dissatisfied with the intention of Latin America to organize deliveries in the Russian Federation of goods, which Moscow has banned import from Europe, writes "arguments of the week".

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:58 | 5088748 vincenze
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It's summer in Ecuador and Brasil when it's winter in Russia and Poland.

It makes sense to import fresh apples and bananas from Latin America instead of old fruit from Poland.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:49 | 5089012 oudinot
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Good point, Vincenne!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:04 | 5088769 slightlyskeptical
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Does the EU really think their permission is needed? It must be true they are really all inbred retards.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:16 | 5088853 ThisIsBob
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They began transporting frozen meat from South America to Europe on Sailinng Schooners in the late 1800's.  Worked out  even then.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:51 | 5089015 oudinot
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Bob: What did they uase as a refrigerant?  Sawdust?

 

 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:42 | 5089293 RafterManFMJ
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The new refrigerating technology first met with widespread industrial use as a means to freeze meat supplies for transport by sea from the British Dominions and other countries to the British Isles. The first to achieve this breakthrough was an entrepreneur who had emigrated to New Zealand. William Soltau Davidson thought that Britain's rising population and meat demand could mitigate the slump in world wool markets that was heavily affecting New Zealand. After extensive research, he commissioned the Dunedin to be refitted with a compression refrigeration unit for meat shipment in 1881. On February 15, 1882, the Dunedin sailed for London with what was to be the first commercially successful refrigerated shipping voyage, and the foundation of the refrigerated meat industry.[17]

From Wiki. And mechanical production of ice was around for some time before this.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:40 | 5090323 bid the soldier...
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I don't think Britain's attitude toward Assange helped the EU cause.

But I could be wrong.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:27 | 5090512 Jorgen
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Latin America is not part of the European Union.

However, many Latin American countries have a free trade agreement with the U.S. or a preferential tariff treatment with the E.U. This is where it may get really tricky for countries like Chile, Peru, Colombia and some Central American countries.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:13 | 5090649 fel.temp.reparatio
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...that's where the Union of South American Nations (USAN) comes into play.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:17 | 5088554 oudinot
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They used to call them 'tariffs' , now they are called 'sanctions' in a moral political vein.

Just like the 30's.

And , Putin, love him or hate him, is using economic sense.  Any proper military planning has to start with your own manufactures and domestic  food production is a major component.  Sure the Russia domestic and new BRIC food  suppliers will cost more for the consumer but money will be kept more in  the'family' so to speak.

The US consumer has had the joy of cheaper and cheaper goods from China, India yadda , yadda; but the consumer is making less, less...

Domestic production is paramount for economic,military dominance; especially when energy is expensive.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:23 | 5088560 Kirk2NCC1701
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If Poland can't sell its nuts, fruits and vegetables to Russia, they will be welcome in California.

Else they can do what they love to do: get stuffed on Kielbasas, or keep chowing down on America's.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:44 | 5089302 RafterManFMJ
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I predict Poland will continue to suck on Obama's brown summer sausage.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:29 | 5088591 smacker
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The most staggering thing is that the countries whining about Russia's sanctions against them are themselves supporting sanctions against Russia. In some cases they're spewing abuse at Putin and demanding even more sanctions.

What is it with these political slimeballs?

Have we reached "peak hypocrisy"?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:33 | 5090299 bid the soldier...
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"have we reached 'peak hypocrisy?

smacker, you ain't seen nothing yet.

The worst is yet to come.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:31 | 5088595 viedoklis_lv
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Well when man has to stand up against another Hitler like Putin, than he has to do it, no matter what blow he hast to recieve.

Putin is breaking international law and he must be stopped. This is a small price to pay in order to stop such criminals as Putin & it's terorists.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:36 | 5088628 DIgnified
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:41 | 5088660 bid the soldier...
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Who did you stand up against to get your blow?

Was it Columbian blow or same sex?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:40 | 5088661 bid the soldier...
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Who did you stand up against to get your blow?

Was it Columbian blow or same sex?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:53 | 5088721 vincenze
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Don't small subordinate countries take orders from the German dictator?

She decides if Greece will live or not. She gives money and guns.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:57 | 5088745 rwe2late
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vie,

 Would anyone be wrong guessing that you do NOT

support sanctions against the US, UK, and Israel,

 or condemning or arresting Bush, Cheney, and Cameron for Iraq war crimes,

or Obama for drone assassinations and torture,

or Netanyahu for crimes against humanity?

 

(And just asking, do you have any suspicions re: why Kiev, the US, and the UK are withholding MH17 data?)

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:02 | 5088763 NOTaREALmerican
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Wait,  are you saying this problem has been going on for a long time now?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:31 | 5089522 rwe2late
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oops, meant to write Blair, not Cameron,

although Cameron could easily be added to the list.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:20 | 5089755 Bemused Observer
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He should be slapped around on general principle.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:38 | 5088788 ThisIsBob
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If you could stop countries from breaking international law, the United States would be frozen in its tracks.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:29 | 5089513 BlindMonkey
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The Golden Rule may have been forgotten, and replaced with the petrodollar, but it will soon be remembered. When it does the ones with the gold will make the rules. The US need not apply for that spot.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:15 | 5088843 blentus
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I was under impression that monkeys were supposed to bang on keyboard in order to write works of Shakespeare.

Turns out they're posting on ZH instead.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:44 | 5090729 napper
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viedolklis_lv, you need to immediately stop feeding on government propaganda from CNN, FOx, NY Times and Washington POSt etc.

 

It's bad for your brain.

 

The biggest rogue state and international law breaker right now is the US government (at the behest of the Money Trust).

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:34 | 5088621 DIgnified
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Im impressed.   Russia's "sanctions" not only took an immediate toll on the Eu, it appears that it somehow went back in time and hobbled their economies years ago. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:34 | 5088622 Fuku Ben
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I can arrange for a Chinese buyer to take all the milk they can supply but Finland will have to accept payment in RMB only.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:39 | 5090722 napper
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and free shipping. or else forget about it.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:35 | 5088631 Pumpkin
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The NWO is only good for a very few.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:36 | 5088635 bid the soldier...
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A lot of the comments ignore the fact that most of the countries of West Europe have a year or two of gas supply in reserve.

Putin doesn't ignore that fact, which is why he hasn't turned it off yet.

If you want to know what Putin is going to do next, but you can't transpose chess moves into realpolitikal one, stay tuned like everybody else.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:06 | 5088785 Gunter
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bid the soldier,

 

what you say is right and wrong.

 

I am in Germany and we might have 6 to 9 months in reserve, Enough to survive the winter (except if EU demands to help the PIGS who haven't build up a reserve)

 

Anyway, there is a technical problem that makes the gas reserve pretty useless. The extraction rate from the underground tanks is only half of what is needed during the winter. Technically impossible to increase, like in the pub they can fill only a certain amout of beer glasses in 10 minutes.

To deliver enough gas to consumers and industry half of the gas has to come from underground tanks and the other half from pipelines from Russia.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:55 | 5089050 Anarchy 99
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may I add that you cannot draw down below 50% as that is required to maintain pressure, so maybe 3 months useable storage, say...mid winter?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:08 | 5088795 lasvegaspersona
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How does one store a years worth of nat gas? Honest question, wouldn't that take huge pressurized tanks?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:36 | 5088641 Mercuryquicksilver
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When does Europe tell Washington - enough!

When the US central bank does not control all of western europe's central banks. Who pulls the strings?


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:47 | 5089599 bid the soldier...
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"When the US central bank does not control all of western europe's  central banks."

Which is never.  

The US has bribed most of the politicians in the EU and NATO. If they try to break free of the US or act independently, well remember what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:17 | 5089736 Bemused Observer
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Oh yeah...we forgot about him, didn't we?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:25 | 5090273 bid the soldier...
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Well, I haven't seen his name in these esteemed pages for at least a couple of weeks.

But I've been cranky of late (Ukrainkinoia) and probably missed a whole article devoted to the anniversary of his fondle.

If you ever run a country, BO, you must admit he is the perfect lesson on how to get rid of a Managing Director of the IMF who wants to do things his way?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:38 | 5088653 lasvegaspersona
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Is there a single adult voice left in the American (my) political system?..hmmm? speak up!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:56 | 5088737 DIgnified
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Wow.  Twitter.  Real rock solid evidence you got there.  No hand-drawn crayon diagrams?  At least they were smart this time and cropped out the Ukranian signs from Kiev fascist held areas. 

 

Nice try, slugger. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:18 | 5088863 blentus
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Dear Sherlock,

Please contact Interpol at your convenience.

Thank you.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:19 | 5088872 oudinot
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vidoki: You could work as a fact checker for CNN and get American dollars for wages.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:16 | 5089732 Bemused Observer
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Well, if Euromaiden, trollgnet, and StudMedia say so, then I guess I have no choice but to believe...

(sarc) As if I had to say so...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 04:20 | 5091179 napper
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viedoklis_lv, see if you can find some info about getting a new brain for yourself on twitter

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:43 | 5088668 Ewtman
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:42 | 5088669 sessinpo
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Crap

What are those 800 cows going to do now for work /sarc

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:02 | 5088676 Jorgen
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Poland's agriculture minister went on television to announce the country was taking action against Russia's new import ban. "We believe Russia has broken international law in both its embargo against Poland and its embargo against the EU," Marek Sawicki said.

Russia banned the import of Polish fruit and vegetables in early August - a move Sawicki said would cost Poland 0.6 percent of GDP.

I am guessing that Sawicki hopes for WTO outcome similar to the Yukos one in the Hague a couple of weeks ago.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:05 | 5089689 JohninMK
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Just as long as it doesn't take 10 years or so.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:44 | 5090566 gallistic
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Poland is not waiting for the WTO to decide on its crybaby complaint.

The Polish Ambassador has gone on the offensive.

He is promoting Freedom Apples!

Now shut up, do your patriotic duty, and buy polish apples...

 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:58 | 5088746 HamRove
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 NATO is about to go bye bye......All these EU countries are going to break rank and deal with Russia. They will do anything they have to to save their asses. 

America will become isolated, not Russia,

Blowback is a mutherfucker. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:13 | 5088824 AdvancingTime
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They are already breaking rank. In reality America has few military options in Russia's backyard unless it has the backing of a full and enthusiastic NATO and that is very unlikely. Europe has reason to be unexcited about a possible long and expensive conflict.

While still trying to recover from a recession Europe would face fuel shortages and a massive spike in the price of natural gas. Currently Russia supplies much of the gas used in Europe, this gives Putin a great deal of leverage. If an actual ground attack were to occur few see the Russians as likely to rollover as other armies have when America approaches. More on this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/putin-holds-all-cards.html

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:48 | 5089915 Village-idiot
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What you say only applies to intelligent people with common-sense; it does not apply to politicians.

If you look back on history, you'll see that most politicians, when none of their plans work, will resort to war as a means to boost the economy (it actually doesn't) or as a means to distract the media and public from the truth of those same politicians' incompetance.

Expect some kind of an altercation as European "leaders" get desperate.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:12 | 5088827 lost money
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And what happens when store shlelves in Russia go empty? They will come screaming hat in hand for food at any price. Russian winter is just a few monts away. Last time I checked not much grows in four feet of snow and subfreezing temps.

This site is just like mish mash brain's. you let your anti USA bias cloud your economic analysis.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:19 | 5088870 AdvancingTime
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Russia has plenty of options for getting the food that they don't grow and has already secured deals with several countries.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:21 | 5088880 blentus
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Incorrect. Food is only available in Western countries.

Because food loves freedom, of course.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:48 | 5089316 RafterManFMJ
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They hate us for our Fritos.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:38 | 5089845 Tursas
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Russia's problem is that they don't "know" how to grow GMO crops.  We here in the West have already a proven process from fields to our dinner table.  We are the best in the world - the real leaders of the human race. We have now a perfect holocaust with no pollution nor guards and not even hard labor!   

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:21 | 5088874 blentus
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I have to admit that your economic analysis is a work of genius.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:26 | 5088901 NOTaREALmerican
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We're not anti-USA, we're anti-authoritarian, unless the foreign authoritarian is much more super macho than our US authoritarian.   It gets kinda sexual at this point so it's best not to think too much on why some are and aren't (uh) loved.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:44 | 5088937 ThisIsBob
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No empty shelves.  They are lining up everywhere to export to Russia, which knows how to import.  Its just a matter of calling Exporter B instead of Exporter A.

Or are you poroposing that Putin, et al., didn't think it through?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:59 | 5089066 Anarchy 99
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Hey LOST MONEY.

are you fucking serious, look at the SIZE of Russia, they have more arable land then ALL of north america.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:15 | 5088845 goldhedge
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FUCK SPAIN

FUCK POLAND

FUCK FINLAND

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FUCK THE EU

 

VOTE UKIP.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:40 | 5089869 Village-idiot
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You'd be taken a lot more seriously if you dropped the infantile profanity.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:16 | 5088854 CPAHb GOSPODNYA
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These so-called political leaders act like big babies. They were presented with the choice of sanctioning Russia or not santioning Russia. Their hand was not forced (to my knowledge) and Putin warned them several times that sanctions will have a boomerang effect, which they did. On top of that Russia responded with their own sanctions.

If you spit in the face of your trading partner you must live with the consequences of your actions. Instead they start crying and asking for handouts. What the hell are they thinking and what reality do they live in anyway?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:43 | 5088934 THE DORK OF CORK
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Its not really the US

Its London. - the UK needs Spanish fruit and veg baby.

Its a very densely populated island that has been unable to feed itself for hundreds of years.

Its population (unlike Spain) continues to rise because that is where the money is.

They want all of the Spanish food surplus.

they can now buy it at a lower price.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/fruit-veg-feeds-eurotunnel-record-growth-8462569.html

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:00 | 5089054 THE DORK OF CORK
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UK

Fastest population growth in Europe  (because that is where the money is as the banking system has scaled up )

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/pop-estimate/population-estimates-for-uk--england-and-wales--scotland-and-northern-ireland/2013/sty-population-estimates.html

 

The UK is in chronic real goods deficit - it must wage financial war and indeed use the threat of war to redirect surplus goods into its black hole.

Its not much different then the battle of the Atlantic in this respect.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:58 | 5089068 Jack Burton
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Very good story. Just today I have read several new stories about Finlands economic troubles. These Russian sanctions simply pile onto an already serious recession. And, as some inside Finland say, "This is not a cyclical recession it is structural in nature". Now with Finnish agriculture under the gun, more Finns will walk the unemplyment lines so that Obama and Poland can wage their war on Russia.

I love the Finns, I was married to one, my daughter is 1/2 Finn and 1/2 Swede. I feel for Finns, they suffer for cunts like Obama and his neocon gang of warmongers. Finalnd and Russia have had a very bad history, but they have worked to make peace and to trade, that is how peace is maintained, now the USA wants to drag Finland into another war on Russia. It is Finland who suffers not the fucks in Washington. Were I a Finland voter I would vote to throw the necons out of parliament, the Washington ass kissers must go!  Finland and Russia have NO reason for conflict now, the past needs to be the past and never happen again!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:10 | 5089702 Tursas
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Were I a Finland voter I would vote to throw the necons out of parliament, the Washington ass kissers must go!"

I totally agree - unfortunately Obama's neocons are oiling their political life.  They have also full control over the Finnish news media and different messages don't get printed nor do they get any TV time!  A sad case as also the foreign minister has recently started singing the same neocon song! 

President still at least tries to be diplomatic!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:28 | 5089504 localizer
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I'm not sure I follow - how can any country sue another one for not wanting to buy their stuff anymore? I mean - are countries not free to choose where they buy from? What is all this WTO protection crap? There can be many reasons why one country offers a better deal - price, quality, volume etc., isn't this how the market works? So Poland and others should just shut the fk up and look for other markets to sell their stuff.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:44 | 5090726 fel.temp.reparatio
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It would depend on what 'Trade Agreements' (read contracts) countries have in place and their respective T&Cs... simply put, Russia would also have legal grounds in some instances I imagine, so it would go both ways.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:01 | 5090623 fel.temp.reparatio
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"I'll put my money on Russia."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/12/my-moneys-on-putin/

"Washington [add NATO] thinks 'modern warfare' involves covert support for proxy armies comprised of Neo Nazis and Islamic extremists. Moscow thinks modern warfare means undermining the enemy's ability to wage war through sustained attacks on it's currency, its institutions, its bond market, and its ability to convince its allies that it is a responsible steward of the global economic system."

...just about says it all, really.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 00:04 | 5090774 hedgiex
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In an integrated globalised economy, sanctions do not work. Putin knows it. US arguably knows it.. just testing the markets and should there be a pushback, they have just experimented with Europe peripherals.

What may have surprised US is the speed and the well thought responses with many more arsenals in Putin's economic war chest.

What surprise those CNN types is that the markets are shrugging off any major impact on Russia economy and they are still desperately trying to spin declines based on dubious prognosis. The theme is that no other major economies (China, Japan, Russia, etc) must be seen to be on a less perilous road than US. Europe at the center of this global decline is still delusional in that it is likely to go down first with all these "we feel your pains" from US.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 09:36 | 5091872 redd_green
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this just gives everyone an excuse, whos economies are already in the toilet.  Spain? Please, they have been falling apart for decades.  Look at the unemployment rate since 2005.  Nothing to do with the Russian sanctions.  Nada.

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