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Putin Punks West (Again): Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Guardian Reports
As Russia's 300-strong 'humanitarian' convoy of white trucks slithered towards the Ukraine border, it appears, according to The Guardian, that, in spite of the market's exuberance at this morning's comments of "avoiding conflict," Vladimir Putin sent a real 'green' military Russian convoy across the Ukraine border late Thursday evening.
So @RolandOliphant and I just saw a column of APCs and vehicles with official Russian military plates cross border into Ukraine.
— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) August 14, 2014
.@shaunwalker7 and I just witnessed a not insubstantial column of APCs and trucks slipping across the border into Ukraine.
— Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 14, 2014
Didn't even turn off their headlights. Saw Russian military plates on support vehicles, but no markings I could make out on APCs.
— Roland Oliphant (@RolandOliphant) August 14, 2014
While the white trucks came to a halt well short of Ukraine's border, a different Russian convoy did cross into Ukrainian territory late on Thursday evening.
The Guardian saw a column of 23 armoured personnel carriers, supported by fuel trucks and other logistics vehicles with official Russian military plates, travelling towards the border near the Russian town of Donetsk.
After pausing by the side of the road until nightfall, the convoy crossed into Ukrainian territory, using a rough dirt track and clearly crossing through a gap in a barbed wire fence that demarcates the border. Armed men were visible in the gloom by the border fence as the column moved into Ukraine.
Kiev has lost control of its side of the border in this area.
The trucks are unlikely to represent a full-scale official Russian invasion, and it was unclear how far they planned to travel inside Ukrainian territory and how long they would stay. But it was incontrovertible evidence of what Ukraine has long claimed – that Russian troops are active inside its borders.
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The armoured column seen by the Guardian appeared to be further evidence of Russia's incursions, which the Kremlin has repeatedly denied.
A column of armoured vehicles and military trucks crossed the border from Russia into Ukraine on Thursday night, in the first confirmed sighting of such an incident by Western journalists.
The Telegraph witnessed a column of vehicles including both armoured personal carriers and soft-skinned lorries crossing into Ukraine at an obscure border crossing near the Russian town of Donetsk shortly before 10pm local time.
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We assume this means Stocks will give back all their gains? lol...
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Of course, we suspect if one were to ask Putin, this is merely an entry into an independent sovereign republic... not Ukraine per se... although we are sure he knows full well how the West will interpret this action.
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So... Putin would say this is "merely an entry into an independent sovereign republic?" That seems like a strange thing to say. I doubt he would refer to American military entering Russian territory as "merely an entry into an independent sovereign republic," and I doubt he takes his own actions as lightly.
A minor point to make I know, but what the fuck ZH? The last part of this article shouldn't even exist.
I'm trying to imagine what I would be doing in the Eastern United States if my cousins in Canada were overthrown by a "military putsch" that the majority of the Country didn't want from a foreign invader funding it -but got anyway and the news simply was getting worse by the day, with rape, torture and death.
Especially the number of civilian casualties doubling in the last month alone?!!!
At some point you don't leave family extended or otherwise to reap what they never had coming to them in the first place -No matter what the costs end up being!
I'll say it again Mr. President you started something that you and your "blue helmeted" jew fanatic pals will definitely not finish and most assuredly will regret.
Be prepared for the most ungodly ass kicking both you and those you command aren't old enough to have ever seen in your lifetime...
If I was a Ruskie soldier I would be smellin Ukie blood right now.
The smart thing to do is to take a hunting holiday somewhere nice, say Switzerland, and off a certain shark-tank-enthusiast oligarch who's been financing this shit.
I can't imagine who you might be talking about.
http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2793-kolomoyskiy-assistants-faceb...
Oops, how did that link get there? I hate when that happens.
TFS
Hadn't seen that one yet.
But how could we possibly be surprised at this point when you are dealing with the sheer abundance of deviants this fucked up country and planet is governed by.
It only gets worse.
guardian et al not reliable.
True but I hope they're right. I been itching to see Puty kick Kiev's ass.
Pics with location-identifiable scenery or GTFO.
spot-on Dig
Putin is a flat liar - just now he proved it!
No humatarian aid there - that's for sure.
plz tell us How?
Don't be like that, I'm sure Putin is going to provide the separatists and their families as generous a serving of humanitarian aid to match the generous serving of ass kicking he is going to serve the Kiev attackers.
viedoklis, -- you must have ground that axe down to a pocket knife by now.
It's not so much that Putin is invading.
It's more like Ukraine is adopting Obama's border policy here in the US.
"Of course, we suspect if one were to ask Putin, this is merely an entry into an independent sovereign republic... not Ukraine per se... although we are sure he knows full well how the West will interpret this action."
Recognized by who? Not even Russians. Self proclaimed terorists only recognize what they have declared them sef.
You could only wish that Putin would invade your sack of shit Ukraine....then at least you have a hope of defaulting on your debts and starting new, instead of selling your souls to the IMF.
Latina,
His country isn't Ukraine, it's Latvia -- that country whose Latvian Rifles installed V. I. Lenin in power.
i'd thought he was lithuanian?
Viedoklis,
Sveiks!
You refer to the pro-Russian forces as "self-proclaimed terrorists." But they've never proclaimed any such thing.
In any case, the real terrorists here are your friends -- Poroshenko, Yatseniuk and the neo-Nazi Praviy Sektor.
You'll never convince viedorklis of that. He's a retarded Latvian Polack who drinks well of the Kievan Yatzi kool-aid.
Probably next time they will be right, for sure.
I'm worried.
Rubber Vlad: Here's the plan: When we get to the pass, we're gonna put on our fish costumes, pass out the Vaseline® an' an extra ration o' rum for the men. That should do it.
In war, there are shortages of everything. This may, or may not, come to America. Best to CYA. If you can, STOCK UP.
Financial collapse, Ebola or other contagions, natural disasters, we should already have a little something put aside. Just like you buy insurance in case the worst happens (I lost my house, I know), it is wise to lay up supplies too in the case of an extended power down situation.
I'll post this again, I do it every few months, but I only just posted it on some ebola thread. 100 Items to Disappear First in a Crisis.
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm
From a Sarajevo War Survivor
That's real nice of you to post that link. Good stuff.
IMHO, Everclear grain alcohol is an excellent multipurpose survival commodity. It can be bartered, but is also:
anesthetic
antiseptic
memory eraser
truth serum
universal solvent
emergency motor fuel
improvised incindiary device
Did I mention memory eraser?
No problem, send Nuland in to distribute cookies to the Russian soldiers and they will certainly defect.
Kiev Propaganda. Fuck you Oliphant!
Governer Jerry Haskins: A lonely breed... hard men, proud men... not too proud to cry or shed a tear. The living embodiment of the American cowboy tradition. Ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered here today to honor this great native American son who gave his life for a cause so vital to us all, like so many great Americans before him had. As you can see, these truckers are going to start passing, paying their respects to their lost comrade, the Rubber Vlad, in their Macks, their Jimmies, K-Whoppers, Fruitliners, garbage trucks, dump trucks and even limousines... Truckers all! From the covered wagons and trains to the 18-wheelers that keep this country alive... This controlled individualism made this cause so vital that I promise to take it to Washington and present it to the Senate myself.
Everybody's getting their knickers in a twist, literally!
Everything's going to work out just dandy, AOK , promise.
Barry's gonna get his handicap down to +2 , enter some Pro'Am's and raise funds for his favorite charities such as Fortified Diapers for Middle Class Folks.
Yooz maybe in the gutter but you're looking up at the Stars
Roland was a mi6 wanker from the land of the rothschild saturn sun
With a Thompson iphone for hire, and lying to be done
The deal was made in tel aviv on a dark talmudic day
So he set out for donestk to join the bloody fray
Roland the headless iphone gunner
Warren Zevon - Roland the Headless Thompson Gunnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTv-I2Y390
Russia probably has a few of these bad boys waiting for Obama, Valarie Jarrett and Victoria Nuland to start war. 60 megaton monsters. It's a dangerous game to play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlNPhn64TA
Samantha Powers is gonna be some kinda upset
Don't worry, Cass will make it all ok.
I hate to say I ........
Can you believe this "newly anointed" M-F who is responsible for starting all of this mayhem and war had this to say?...
What I wouldn't give to round up every one of them, take them to the top of the "freedom tower" and kill two birds with one stone providing the best demonstration of free fall acceleration the public hasn't seen since 9/11 in that city and create a "banker puddle" as the appropriate punishment to fit the crime that made it all possible!
We can but dream.
Now masks drops and aggresor can be seen by everyone.
Putin is liar and aggresor! He saw that terorists can't deal with Ukranians because people are not with them http://youtu.be/7Ow5sEsSyI4 - so he invades.
v_l
Then I suggest if you are so inclined book yourself a one-way ticket to Donetsk and strap on that "blue helmet" and find something to cover your sphincter as you will be doing some interesting things when they drop you into that territory. T
That latest free condo property you're looking to break ground on in East Ukraine ain't gonna come cheaply!
Good luck Jew-Bagel!
Educate yourself.
paulcraigroberts.org
vineyardsaker.blogspot.com
...here are the real 'terrorists', the Kiev Junta, using incendiary weapons (white phosphorus) in Donetsk.
http://anna-news.info/node/20112
The Geneva Conventions FORBID the use of incendiary weapons against civilians or in civilian areas.
Putin is a liar
Not an aggresor, supplying means to defend east from Kiev and US assholes is very honorable. Talk about spending millions to feed military on the border too.
I think NATO will be first to invade not Putin. By sending "help to defend against terrorists" who are simply defending themselves from being raped and pillaged. Take the East and you'll see Maidan in Moscow too. If you cannot think this way, then you need to educate yourself as the person above linked you to.
It is a shame to be a part from a bunch of parrots who repeat everything Western media tells them. It is called absence of thinking. Do not let others do the thinking for you and educate yourself for your own good and people you love.
These are just 'illegal aliens' fleeing from difficult conditions in their home country of Russia (caused by Western sanctions!). They are merely seeking free health care, free education, EBT cards, free Obama Phones, and a chance to stay in a luxury resort hotel like they see on the Internet!
Well, there certainly is no shortage of professional psychopaths who can easily blunder us into a nuclear war...
News of the day is that the US sends troops, APCs and tanks to the Russian border and expects Putin to do nothing? Putin just needs to keep the rebels fighting until it gets cold.
How come the Uks aren't squealing like stuck pigs? They know how to do it.
I wonder if a nuke lands somewhere, if that will get any news coverage? Market neutral? Small dip, then recovery if it's not a fusillade barrage of nukes? Seems like all the comments I've seen are reading the same way. Nobody seems to be able to know what people will think. And if you're dead, well, you don't have to worry about it, I guess. Amazing. Just amazing...
Walker and Oliphant, a couple of shills from the Guardian and Telegraph ... completely unreliable if you read the shite they publish on ukraine and call news. Gonna need more sources than just these two idiots.
What's to fear? We all know that US satellites cannot 'see' Russian vehicles in Eastern Ukraine!
I am not the state department. I need more than unsubstantiated twitter reports.
State department will be monitoring youtube for amateur videos they can use as evidence, after all nobody posts fake info on youtube.
Putin's hoping Kiev tries to target his APC column.
Putin was never going to stand by and see hundreds of thousands of Russian speaking civilians slaughtered by neo nazis in the Ukraine, the arrogance of the west hoping he would if they hit him with enough sanctions is unbelievable.
The refusal of the west to even let humanitarian aid through for civilians may have been the last straw.
OMG!!!
If The Guardian - the newspaper of record (via MI6) of the British surburban "Concerned Chattering-Class" - is reporting this, it MUST be true!!!
"Isn't that so Harriet?" "Why, yes - of course Nigel. That's why we're "Guardian" people - news you can get indignant and have a good chatter about. Now finish your cocoa before it gets cold..."
Chablis, no cocoa.
Otherwise spot on.
unbiased reporting https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/heavy-russian-military-equipment-joini...
useless
At this point, I actually hope this isn't a False Flag or just more hysterical MSM/ Kiev BS. It's about damned time Putin grew a pair and called USA's/ EU's/ NATO's bluff. Hell, Putin was letting Russia get sanctioned for doing essentially nothing for a couple of months but calling for a bi-lateral ceasefire, while ethnic Russians were getting ethnically-clensed on the border of his country. Putin has nothing to lose by invading at this point and if he's falling into a trap, so be it.
This Russian military convoy will hopefully plough the road for a serious invasion and will wack any of those goosestepping Right Sector Nazi wannabee bastards that get in the way. If Willy Wonka, Yats, Nuland, and the banksters want a war, hopefully the Russian army will now give them a taste of a real one, maybe even a bigger taste than they had bargained for.
If Russian decides to cut loose, the only real thing the USA (and NATO) can do to stop them is go nuclear. Will they over Ukraine? I think not. Hopefully, I'm right.
I suspect the story is 'true'. The military vehicles likely just separated from the convoy slightly and the Guardian intelliporters had to give their own little spin to make Russia look like the Death Star.
Yeah, you're probably right. Those Guardian reporters are probably run-of-the-mill poofter drama queens just like the CNN poofter drama queen Anderson Cooper.
I posted something below and said that it looks like the armored column crossed the border with Kiev's okay to secure the road from the Russia to Donetsk.
There must be an agreement, with Barroso and Poroshenko, to let the 300 trucks roll. Putin may have had to give up something pricing gas, but he is more concerned about the lives of the Russians in Donetsk than the Western swine who were holding the besieged city hostage and pumping heavy artillery into it.
I have stopped worrying about the armored column and expect to hear the terms of the agreement when the 300 white trucks roll tomorrow or Saturday.
As long as President for Life Putin is supporting Freedom Fighters who will defeat Nazis I am all for it. Please remember that President for Life Putin thinks anyone who interferes with his hydrocarbon distribution and sales is a Nazi.
Ukraine is not about oil, Ukraine is not about oil, Ukraine is not about oil, only evil America does that! Said Vlad after he kissed his 14 year old boyfriend goodnight.
Questioning the veracity of this "story"...
Only 32 APC's no tanks, so could just be column of Russian tourists going on holiday in the Ukraine with military escort, if the west can call US troops in Iraq 'advisers' why the hell not?
I am sure this must be a spoof or something, Kiev urged (not told) to cut artillery bombardment of civilians!
They must want them moved to hit something else.
WASHINGTON, August 15 (RIA Novosti) – Washington urges Kiev authorities not to use heavy artillery in a military operation against eastern independence supporters to reduce casualties among the civilian population, US State Department deputy spokesperson Marie Harf said Thursday.
“We’ve called on them not to use weapons that could increase that,” Harf said during the daily briefing.
Washington is very supportive of Kiev authorities and their military operation in eastern regions of Ukraine, the spokesperson added.
Kiev has been conducting a military operation targeting Luhansk and Donetsk regions, which refused to recognize the legitimacy of the new government and chose to pursue independence.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140815/192019892/US-Calls-on-Kiev-to-Refrain-Fr...
In response to which, and out of respect, Ukraine changes to flicking rubber bands at Donetsk.
When this does kick off It won't start in Putin's backyard. Putin will go for high value targets, top of his shopping list will be 9/10 Flat tops as quick as you like, with accessories, Trill's of $$$ to replace and about 7yr waiting list, may also sink Obama and his US$ too, EU may have a rethink and apply get out clause.!!
Rook takes knight .Your move Obama .
Happy hunting boys, its open season on NAZIs and Muslims and remember alls fair in love and war and the victors write the history.
It's not the first time that a column of Russian vehicles has entered Ukraine. I'm sure it won't be the last. But it's not the start of a large-scale invasion either. Putin is just being his usual dickish self.
I love that the Ukrainian rebels' new miltary commander is a senior miltiaman known only as "The Tsar." That's good novel material.
Couple more headlines:
A Bunch Of Russian Military Vehicles Have Just Crossed Into Ukraine
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-military-vehicles-crossed-into-uk...
Breaking: Russian Military Vehicles Just Invaded Ukraine
http://www.westernjournalism.com/russian-military-vehicles-enter-ukraine...
Both use the same source from The Guardian.
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And you can guess how credible the second source is from its other story:
"Like a battered wife whose husband promises not to hit her again for the twentieth time, the western media is breathing a collective sigh of relief (and the markets are soaring accordingly) after Vladimir Putin made conciliatory statements in Crimea regarding continuing his confrontation with the West."
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The Australian says "Russian aid convoy poised to cross border into Ukraine"
"RAISING the stakes in Ukraine’s conflict, a Russian aid convoy of more than 200 trucks pushed up to the border but then stopped, provocatively poised to cross into rebel-held territory.
The Ukrainian government threatened to use all means available to block the convoy if the Red Cross was not allowed to inspect the cargo."
if this is true my guess is that they are scout/recon elements going out ahead of the main event. so few wont help the rebels in combat and i doubt advisiors would be going over in rides with military plates....
or this is just more of the same propaganda crap we has been reading for months.
I think this is a LIE and I hope it isn't. I really want Putin to defend the people of Donbas from all those Kiev's Zio-Nazi scumbags but the Guardian is a lying sack of shit and half of the editorial team there comprised of cheesy, gay Russophobes and another half...well, just gay fascists. Saying that, I still enjoy their music and books review section but the rest is not worth my time.
Cnn's wulfy blitzer reports that one tank is being driven by ed snowden that dastardly traitor. Anderson Cooper was seen jacking off to a photo of greenwald and erin burnett is looking for her tits
Blitzer is an Israeli. He was brought in to be sure Israel could have a paid liar with media access 24/7.
Rumor has it that he is low level Mossad, hasbara at a minimum.
This might be the long expected "Pussy Riot" road tour with all it's baggage and stage equipment, coming across the border to do a morale booster show for Kiev's Nazi Battalions. "Pussy Riot" works as official US STate Department employees, so they may be on the way to just another show for the Junta troops.
This might be the long expected "Pussy Riot" road tour
LOL! May be securing a golf course for Obammy
Putin has been demanding a ceasefire to no end because of the nazis in Kiev. I hope now he has the firepower there to get his demands.
Another story concerning Ukraine, Russia and the EU was also reported Thursday.
My guess is that it preceeded the the column of Russian vehicles that entered Ukraine today.
"EC, Russia, Ukraine Agree to Hold Talks on Association Pact, Gas Supplies"
"MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) - The presidents of the European Commission, Russia and Ukraine have agreed to hold talks on gas supplies, EU-Ukraine trade pact as well as on the current situation in Ukraine, the European Commission said on Thursday."
The Russian column may have entered Ukraine as part of this agreement. And it entered with the approval of Kiev. So the entry of the column means much less than meets the eye.
It also means that Nuland, Poroshenko and Barosso were playing with peoples lives to get a better gas deal from Putin.
Apparently a deal was done days ago and was kept quiet until Russia's 300 white trucks rolled to the Ukraine border. If you look at the following stories in the Russian media, you'll see nothing but honeyed words from the adversaries and a desire for peace.
The Red Cross will be inspecting the trucks on Friday and, more to the point, a Russian convoy of armored vehicles has crossed the border to secure the route against the pro-Kiev militias who may be roaming the country side occupied by pro-Russian forces.
THE DEAL IS DONE
WASHINGTON, August 15 (RIA Novosti) – Washington urges Kiev authorities not to use heavy artillery in a military operation against eastern independence supporters to reduce casualties among the civilian population, US State Department deputy spokesperson Marie Harf said Thursday.
BRUSSELS, August 14 (RIA Novosti) – EU member states’ foreign ministers have no plans to discuss new economic sanctions against Russia, a high-ranking EU representative told the press Thursday.
YALTA, August 14 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday relayed to the heads of the country’s political parties that Russia will do everything in its power in order to end the conflict in Ukraine.
MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) - Russia’s Foreign Ministry on Thursday called for an immediate ceasefire in violence-torn eastern Ukraine to ensure the safe delivery of humanitarian aid to civilian population suffering amid armed clashes between Kiev-led forces and independence supporters.
MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his Ukrainian counterpart Pavlo held a phone conversation Thursday and discussed the practical steps that should be taken to provide crisis-torn eastern regions of Ukraine with humanitarian aid, Russia’s Foreign Ministry said.
MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) – Officials of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) met Moscow’s convoy carrying humanitarian aid to Ukraine in Russia’s southern Rostov Region, ICRC tweeted Thursday.
MOSCOW, August 15, 0:07 /ITAR-TASS/. President Vladimir Putin and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso may meet in person but the date and place of the meeting would have to be agreed via diplomatic channels, the presidential press service said on Thursday
I never thought Putin would send troops into Ukraine. He's much smarter than that.
And as there was no outcry from Kiev, I trust I amright.
Thanks for that info...
The inference I draw from those comments is that Western MSM (UK Guardian, Telegraph and probably others) are wilfully misreporting the reason for the Russian military convoy that apparently entered East Ukie. Their news articles suggest it is "yet another" Russian incursion into East Ukie to stoke up the civil war whereas it was actually pre-agreed with Kiev and is to protect the convoy from attack by the mad fascist militias.
At this point we don't know the absolute truth because of propaganda on both sides. But I'm prepared to believe that the military convoy didn't simply enter on its own accord with orders from Moscow. It would have been attacked within hours.
Absolutely correct.
This propaganda was either the result of the West wanting to get more out of Russia in the coming agreement or to placate the Nazi members of Poroshenko's coalition and then present them with a fait accompli.
I really dig the flag of the Novorossia Confederation.
http://southernnationalist.com/blog/2014/06/11/the-russian-confederates-...
It hard to over look the tanks supplied by Hungary, various arms and supplies from Poland, a few American mercenaries, a few American military advisers, 500,000+ US made ration packs, Canadian supplied night vision goggles, bullet proof vests, etc... Then again, it is hard to overlook Kiev's white phosphorous attack last night on Donetsk, its hard to over look the daily civilian deaths, its hard to over look that the Kiev government endorse neo-nazi's. It is hard not to notice that the MSM narrative is to avoid disturbing truths. This whole war is stupid. The war profiteers are loving it, just ask Hunter Biden. The Obama syndicate is ruthless and stupid, not once have they ever desired peace, negotiated a truce or have been a fair broker in any foreign policy engagement, all militarism. Russia does have a right to self defense and the people of Novorossia do have a right to self determination despite what NATO and the banksters want or desire. If the Obama syndicate plans on using blackmail as a shakedown technique Russia will not blink.
The Kiev fascists are so stupid that they make perfect tools for the US military industrial complex to use as stooges. The USA promise of support and the lie of EU membership has got Kiev's junta all jacked up to do Washington's bidding, hoping for a big prize in the end. Fucking idiots! I watched a few rebel videos of captured Right Sector fighters taken in today's fighting. Ignorant stooges, now they don't look so smart. All of the West Ukraine was promised EU membership, generous German style social benefits, free EU passports with right to move, and western economic aid in the tens of billions. Ha! That was all Bullshit lies to gin up the fascists to attack the east and provoke Russia. Even now a new force of Kiev's idiots have gotten themselves encircled by the rebels and are expected to be wiped out by tomorrow morning, the lucky ones appeared in the captives video. The Ukrainians have been played for fools by Washington and the EU leaders who follow Obama's commands are useful dupes, nothing more, throwing away tens of billions in mutual trade and hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs, ALL to serve the Washington DC neocons! Idiots!
Im confused
pro russian
anti nazi
anti israel
pro gay
Well said, Jack. The Ukies at the very top are cutting the action with the NecCons (as in Con artists ) and giving to the average Ukie Yob good and hard. This is how things are done in a neo colonial society.
I figure that it's just warming up.It's already been leaked a that NATO is already bringing in a lot of military hardware.Canada's even shipping lots out from the west coast.Long journey,maybe a lot of equipment is coming up from Washington State.The U.S. has hundreds of so-called private advisors in Ukraine.Polish extremists are joining in with the neo-nazi ultra nationalists.Russia knows that it can't allow these extremists on its border.They also know from statements within Ukraine's Government that Crimea will be next.They want it back.Cutting off of Russia's gas to Europe will be the final economic warfare card to be dealt from Ukraine.The Ukrainian Government isn't even listening to the EU now.(you know,"Fuck the EU").Russia doesn't need the territory by the way,they've got lots but they may want a temporary buffer zone from fanatics.
The last world war got us OUT of a depression.
The last world war started a depression that has not yet ended...
What I mean is...This will get us into a total collapse.
The most logical thing to do, besides practicing duck-and-cover, seems to be to pray M'Fers.
Its on like Donkey Kong.
Obama caught off guard. Again.
What does Obamski have to do with anything?
Russia is the "Enemy du Jour" when will you idiots ever learn?
Predictable
Putin repeatedly said Kiev & the "West" should halt their military offensive & negotiate with alleged "separatists" and come to a negotiated settlement.
Also Putin stated he would not, could not, stand by while Kiev conducted a military
offensive driving hundreds of thousands of Russian-Ukrainians into Russia as refugees.
Putin's hand was forced, although he held back longer than most believed possible.
No, Putin would not.
Find out at the nearest police station, no record of theft.
Some separatists stole some tanks of war, Putin trigger the insurance.
hehe.
There's a big difference between "a gap in a barbed wire fence" and a "check point".
But these guys apparently saw the same thing:
From the Telegraph article (by Roland Oliphant):
"...The Telegraph did see a substantial number of vehicles pass through check point manned by gunmen after shadowing the convoy down narrow country lanes near the frontier."
From the Guardian article (by Shaun Walker):
"...the convoy crossed into Ukrainian territory, using a rough dirt track and clearly crossing through a gap in a barbed wire fence that demarcates the border. Armed men were visible in the gloom by the border fence..."
If Putin wanted eastern Ukraine with it's antiquated infrastructure and energy inefficient industry, Russia would have moved in right after the referendums, just like Crimea. There would have been little or no response from Ukraine at that time, just like Crimea. So clearly Putin doesn't want it as Russia has many similar areas with similar problems. But he does have to care about Russian public opinion about ethnic Russians outside the country being liquidated. In this case you do what he's done, bluff, fake, posture, provide limited support; but eastern Ukraine is a poisoned prize now that the infrastructure is not only old, but obliterated. The Uke Nazi will be fighting a guerilla war there for decades if they win and it will drain them mercilessly. Putin is smart enough to avoid that given the recent experience with Chechnya. Having Ukraine as a docile subject would have been best for Putin, neutral acceptable, but he's likely more concerned about Georgia and Azerbaijan given their location adjacent ally Iran than seeing Ukraine becoming a failed fascist state now that they have retaken Crimea.
Ukraine is just another part of WW3 with the anglo-american alliance, their puppets (EU, CAN,AUS, NZ), manipulator (Israel) and masters (bankers) fighting for global domination. The west has unfortunately become a giant immoral parasite, and countries that attempt to maintain independence from it are attacked militarily, economically or both. Battles between anglo-american alliance puppet elements and nationalist groups fighting to remain in control of their countries are taking place all over the world. Some are hot, some cool, but they are everywhere. Nobody should trust or particularly admire Putin, but his actions are clearly nationalist and opposed to the globalist regime. The race is on between the BRICS who are trying to escape the system and the anglo-american alliance who is trying to maintain it. Hot wars increase with the financial system becoming increasingly warped and perverted. Darkness is falling rapidly as people like PCR warn.
good stuff, Big.
Well said, big mango.
Good. Neocon lunatics (incl CFR lunatics) have never given up on fielding ABM defense along Russia's borders so that they can "win" a nuclear war with Russia, if financial and economic warfare fail to crush Russia.
WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY.
Spaceballs style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZveoBfiww
uchite russkiy yazyk embicily.
You pro-Russian posters here are tools, idiots, morons, fools, Lubyanka shills and paid trolls.
You all shouted down those who saw what was happening, but you nitwits fell for it.
Told Ya So!
I think you're trying too hard.
Troll.
This is not US vs Russia. It's Facts vs Fiction, Truth vs Lies, Neo con lunatics vs peace, shadow government vs the People.
Get a brain first, then get a life, will ya.
Yep, and your position is and was fiction.
The Red Cross sponsored white convoy was cover for troops, materiel and a convoy to enter at another location and all of you fell for it.
It is you who needs to get a brain, the denial here is infinite.
If NATO, the USA or the Poles sent an identically sized military convoy in, all of you would be screaming bloody Bilderberg murder.
At least be man enough to admit you are biased, and possibly paid, shills; it's obvious to everyone except you.
If you love the stench of the never-ending bullshit from the US government and its propaganda apparatus, be my guest.
I have had enough of the lies over the decades.
How many tanks got through that they didn't see?
Don't know. Not as many as CIA spies, advisors, operatives and mercenaries the US/NATO has sent to Ukraine, I suppose.
I was baned at TF metals report. Because the turd, is a staunch Catholic. And I said something bad about the Catholic Church. This is his answer to me when I ask for my money back. He stole my money
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Sometimes when you recklessly attack the thing closest to the owner of an establishment he will ban you. All the beer you ever drank will not be refunded.
Up vote because they banned you and now you come here to cry about it. You are what the world has become.
Hmm... will this negatively impact the ability of the Nazi/Zionist/Bankster putsch regime from killing civilians and shelling across the border?
It's clearly not an invasion force, and APCs don't make it so. And I suppose the dastardly Putin could be hiding rifles and grenades in amongst the food in the convoy, but it seems best to hold off on assuming so. If the Red Cross is not allowed to inspect the entire convoy tomorrow or Saturday, then it would suggest some sort of slow moving intervention in and around Donbass which, as you know, is being shelled by Kiev.
If the Russians insist on delivering food and medical aid, which politics aside, seems to be needed greatly (even Kiev is getting in on the aid convoy act apparently) they may also, not entirely unreasonably, want to have sufficient firepower to protect them and not rely on the goodwill and guarantee of safe passage from Ukraine.
I don't claim to know, but I tend to doubt a media, even a relatively decent paper like The Guardian, that spent a great deal of time covering Israel's attack on Gaza with claims of precision strikes, contrasted with the imprecision, therefore criminal nature, ineffectiveness notwithstanding, of Hamas and IJ rockets, particularly as flechette shells, cluster bombs, etc. are by definition not 'precision' and things like white phosphorus and DU shells were manifestly not used to illuminate the night sky or pierce armor, but to horrendously injure civilians.
Without seeing what the 'military convoy' actually consists of, it is impossible to make any kind of educated guess about what it is tasked with, but without tanks, air support, special forces, and support mobilization, the idea it is meant to be an invasion force is pretty much absurd, imho, but I'm willing to hear out anyone who might have reason to disagree.
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off topic:
Putting a 9/11 Mystery (i.e. WTC 7) on the BallotIf those were precision strikes in Gaza - that meant that they intended to hit and level those neighborhoods, the kids....
If those were precision strikes in Gaza - that meant that they intended to hit and level those neighborhoods, the kids....
The Guardian journalist: I just saw a UFO. No, wait. One landed right in front of me...Putin and his green martians came out of there and talked to me telepathically. I tried to take pictures but they mysteriously jammed my cell phone...Then they got back in their ship and flew away. Honest to god!...I'm telling the truth...
Well, this moring I listened Russian TV news and what I wrote yesterday went viral today.
Company that I descibed yesterday is Russian Railway - so now it's official.
They now ask for their subsidies from regime - and it's not millions USD, not even billions. And it's USD not ruble what they ask.
26 billion rubles ($792 million USD) is what the amount is and it is in rubles...
The Russian railway is not a very private affair and the government just like with the Metro gives money to compensate for such a low fair to ride. I know I use the metro and railway all the time...
Everything has to be repaired...
This information is all available on their websites it is public knowledge and only slanted to appease simpletons...
Breaker Breaker I dont know whats in the Convoy but I saw a Russian Orthodox priest blessing the vehicles before departure. Obama will send off American convoys kissed by Richard Simmons. Thats the difference
If Russia had spent $5 Billion funding a coup that put American hating Nazis in charge of Mexico and these people then started mass murdering the pro American groups in the country, would anyone be arguing that America was wrong to be trying to protect these groups? If not then how is this situation any different?
If not then how is this situation any different?...
Well, we, i.e. the US and Mexico, have been soveriegn countries for well nigh of 200+ years. I could be wrong, but this Chernobyl poisoned, petroleum pipelined region has only been a part of Russia since when, the fifth century?
So - the neocons (a term I always associated with the Bush gang) also includes all the democrats/progressives? Are they Neoprogs?
There is far more blood on the latter groups hands now than there is on the people who haven't been in power in a long, long time -
You might want to do some googling about Victoria Nuland. Or Rahm Emmanuel. Or David Axelrod. Or Cass Sunstein.
The neocons infest the Deep State/Shadow Government.
Did you not notice how Obama has been pretty similar to Bush when it comes to hyperinterventionism, not prosecuting Wall Street, deficit spending, and kissing Israel's ass?
Puppets.
Shaun Walker is Moscow Correspondent for the Guardian. He has lived in Russia for several years and was previously Moscow Correspondent for The Independent...
Seriously we listen to a man who would sell his own mom for a story...
Sad...
Seriously RolandOliphant who did sell his mother for a story and works for the worst excuse for a English Russian news site called Moscow Times...
These guys (RolandOliphant and Shaun Walker) could not tell the truth about Russia if it fell on them...
Their paycheck is solely deoendent upon how mant lies they can print, the western media in Russia is embarrassing and to quote things they say is a desparate attempt toi stir trouble...
Never quote a Moscow correspondence for any reason, he is paid to lie and write trash about Russia...
Sad
both of those clowns have connections with the united services institute and chatham house.
bbc Lyse Doucet, frank gardener the guy in the wheelchair,gabrial gatehouse,RolandOliphant and Shaun Walker.
all zionist chatham house rothschild agents lyse doucet,gabrial gatehouse and frank gardener are death check out what they are talking about find out what country they are in. if they are in your town run away for death soon follows
This story is mostly horseshit.
looks like bullshit as Europe opens bright Green
Given the rreporters involved, the truth of this news is highly questionable. But if by chance it is true, then as far as I am concerned, it's about time Russia came onto the scene and wiped the floor clean of this Nazi trash. I for one would have no problem looking the other way.
Europe has no alternative to Russian energy in the short to medium term. Cutting off the gas would be a disaster for Europe, especially going into winter
Europe gets well under 30% of their gas from Russia. Some countries will be more affected than others, like Germany, but many will barely notice.
So instead of a comfy 21 degrees in the winter i have to drop to 14 degrees and pay more.
No, i will not notice.
why do you think that makes sense?
30%, or less, can be largely compensated. New supply, conservation, etc.
It's not the End of Days scenario many on ZH seem to think, I promise you.
I'm long on European blankets...
Which straw breaks the camels back?
even germany will not be affected, as they have north stream.
all others will be: Cz, H, Sk, A, they all take gas from the pipes, traversing Ua.
Poland and Germany and in its respect UK F bypass Ua and are not affected. Its Central and South EUrope.
http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-says-ready-to-supply-natural-gas-to-eu...
If necessary EU can lift sanctions and import from Iran. No problems at all. It's a political issue.
You're a propaganda shill trying to misinform people.
The issue of Iran supplying gas to Europe via a pipeline has been on the table for quite a long time, so it's not new news as you imply.
What your article from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (a CIA-funded shill) fails to mention is that Europe and the US do not want Iran's gas thru a proposed pipeline because it would earn revenues for Iran. They want Qatari gas through a different pipeline that runs thru Syria. And therein lies the major reason for overthrowing Assad: because he refuses the Qatari pipeline across Syria.
I'm sure that if Iran was allowed to build its pipeline it would be very happy. But Washington won't allow it. All of this has been discussed at length on ZH many times over the past months.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/uk-ukraine-crisis-sanctions-ros...
Nazi go home.
There can't be any home for the Nazi scum.
Israel seems to be working fine as their base.
worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNAPbuwLMHg#t=17
I know that Russians know that state and the Jewish/neocon led NGOs are going forward with a handful of activities to destabilize Russia.
The question is, do they sit back and play defense?
How hard is it to pay inner city protesters to go out in the streets after giving them free booze, maybe laced with adrenaline and testosterone agonists?
In New York.
Or in Jerusalem.
Remember - the neocon/interventionist and "globalist" chessboard is not for the benefit of the American people, but merely means to use them as pawns.
fantastic video link thanks : )
Huge ramp across all markets we must be saved, all shorts wiped out
Spain with now 1Trillion Euro debt new ATL for 10y bonds 2.425%, Italy 2.602% no stopping this insane bubble FRANCE 10y 1.382% !