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US Sending 600 Troops, APCs And Tanks To Countries Bordering Russia To "Reassure Threatened Allies"
Escalation over the Ukraine conflict, a/k/a Cold War 2.0, just took another major step forward. Because here comes the cavalry... literally.
While the world is focused on the first deployment of US marines in Iraq in nearly a decade, as "humanitarian advisors" of course so as not to destroy the Nobel peace prize-winning aura of the US president who is rapidly becoming a warmonger on par with his predecessor, a far more dangerous development took place overnight with nobody noticing, when the Pentagon announced that approximately 600 soldiers from the Army’s 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division will deploy to Poland and the Baltic states to help reassure European allies who feel threatened by Russian military moves. And while most Americans may be geographically challenged, Russians know very well that all of these countries border on Russia. As such this very demonstrative military expansion by NATO powers to "pre-contain" Russian military agression will only lead to one thing: even more "defensive" escalation.
Some more detail on the latest US dispatch of troops in the area now defined by the second coming of the Cold War from Stripes.com:
The troops and their equipment — which include M-1 Abrams tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and armored personnel carriers — will go to Europe in October for a three-month series of training exercises.
The troops will originate out of Fort Hood, Texas (keep this in mind for a post later today) and will replace 600 paratroopers from the Army’s 173rd Airborne Brigade. "These land training exercises … help foster interoperability through small unit and leader training," Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said.
In addition to ground forces, the U.S. has also sent F-16 combat aircraft to Poland and participated in NATO air policing missions over the Baltics.
So why is the US sending military reinforcements at a time when every troop movement is scrutinized with a microscope around the globe:
The exercises came at the request of host nations that fear a resurgent Russia, which annexed the Crimea region of Ukraine earlier this year and continues to support a pro-Russia separatist movement in eastern Ukraine.
So to summarize: the countries that are most worried about Russian military aggression, those which by definition border on Russia, have decided to preempt Russia and demand additional US military presence on their territory, believing that the Kremlin will not see this US military build up as one which threatens Russia with even further NATO expansion on its borders. .
Brilliant. Why? Because recall what happened in December 2013 long before the Ukraine semi-hot proxy civil war was raging:
It seems [Putin] had a Plan B in case things escalated out of control, one that fits with what we wrote a few days ago when we reported that "Russia casually announces it will use nukes if attacked." Namely, as Bloomberg reports citing Bild, Russia quietly stationed a double-digit number of SS-26 Stone, aka Iskander, tactical, nuclear-capable short-range missiles near the Polish border in a dramatic escalation to merely verbal threats issued as recently as a year ago.
This comes from an article titled "Russia Stations Tactical, Nuclear-Capable Missiles Along Polish Border", in which we explained how Russia has done precisely this when it stationed a "double-digit" of SS-26 nuclear missiles in Kaliningrad on the border with Poland, over "concerns" what NATO encorachment close to its territory could imply.
And now, NATO appears to have decided to find out just what Russia's response to such an incremental tactical arms build up will be.
One thing is certain: the US response to a fresh contingent of this...
... with a range of this:
Will hardly be wrapped in the tidy, media-friendly package of on ICBM build-up for "humanitarian advisory" purposes...
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I remember that thing. When the Berlin wall fell they said we were all saved and I never heard about again.
Yep, no more problems since then.
Move along.
I have to wonder just how much of that 'worry' these countries have was started by a call from Washington.
"Hello Poland, if you are not ready to announce that you are 'worried' ...well....maybe you should worry."
fuck the Poles.....and the Latvians too, EXCEPT Latka Gravas
We're going to save the dollar if it means we have to kill every last American to do it.
Its our necks ,or theirs.
See, thats not a hard choice is it ?
"will go to Europe in October" Nothing to see here....yet.
Hey, Tom Clancy, if you're watching this...
Sorry you're gonna to miss (well, in person, I mean) the big war you always fantasized about.
He's currently in Hell. There are no TVs there. Or as Freddie calls it, Heaven.
But he gets to meet Robin Williams.
The radioactive fallout will raise his body from the grave for the zombie apocalypse.
Where does Barry find the time?
I like the face that goes boom.
Memo to Putnik. Watch out for the bunkers and ponds.
Yeah, Putin cares what you think, LOL
Hope they will not defect to mother Rossia like the 500 ukies did week ago.
LOL!!! Russia needs to send some of the same to Cuba and Mexico (should they become allies). Here we go again, fucking stupid.
Once again, why is it that America and her allies are the only ones to provide "humaniterian aid".
BTW, what is the latest on the "investigation" into who shot that plane down?
< wink wink >
Perhaps Putin will ship arms to the negroes in Missouri?
Genius! There's our false flag against Russia. Thank You
Signed: state department blog monitors.
Hasn't anyone read the sign? It's at all the zoos. DON'T POKE THE BEAR! You wanna start WWIII? 'Cause that's how you start WWIII.
don't poke the bear
unless you have a seal
to feed me..
Half a league, half a league onward
All in the valley of death
Rode the six hundred.
...
Honour the charge they made
Honour the Light Brigade
The noble six hundred.
http://allpoetry.com/The-Charge-Of-The-Light-Brigade
shouldn't that be
The Valley of Debt?
It takes time to manage peak cheap oil by slowly crushing global trade to prevent sudden armageddon.
I'm already reassured, since they are not headed to Ferguson.
TPTB sure are willing to kill a lot of people in order to preserve the petro-dollar. 6.5bil sounds about right.
That is sure gonna slow down business and does not line up well with the Central Bank model of ever increasing expansion to keep their debt system going. TPTB can have one or the other, but not both.
Ferguson must be contained.
Douibling down on pure stupidity.
Send Kerry and Bidens son over witha few M4's and some mags....
Victoria Nuland can be crew slut and chow down on Neocon-men crank.
Why don't they go directly after the oligarchs with a couple a sharpshooters and let me study in peace.
Hmmm ... anitarian, of course! In case of E-bola e-bomba!
This country's last true statesman was Dr. Ron Paul. When I think of how the GOP treated him in the last election I continue to vow never to vote for anyone wearing a red team/blue team label. He is the president we needed at a time like this, even IF he would likely be assassinated, it would mean the people finally understood truth.
But such is not the case. And my country is involved in all types of unspeakable acts to its own populace and also the world's citizens. This nation of derelict, blind, slothful lemmings will get everything it deserves. Sadly that will mean the children who don't know any better.
Fuck you NSA
Fuck you Fed
Fuck all the sheep who fell for a Kenyan with a liars smile.
It felt good to vote for him again last election, my hand started shaking when I wrote in his name on the ballot.
Unfortunately he spawned a traitor, Rand. Zion boot licker
i am hoping rand is saying shit with his fingers crossed behind his back so he can get elected president. i will judge him then.
Legalized Hopium II?
+1000 I told my wife that Ron was our last best chance as a nation. Fucking sheeple and fucking media destroyed him
... And that goes for Mr. Yellen too
Neither side will push the button, this is cold war posturing until
the posturing is fully saturated then there will be an agreement with
Nato and Putin. Well I hope thats how it works out otherwise I would get
no more red arrows and I really miss those arrows. Incidentally I watched
Fight club last night on TV and ZH is clicking into place. Yep I know I'm a carthorse.
Things usually don't go quite as planned, General Obama.
Someone pushed a button on MH17. It's surprising that no civilian airplanes have been downed with SAM/AAM's since 9/11. These Balkan idiots are capable of a lot of stupid stuff, including nuclear escalation.
You are confusing the BalTICS with the BalKANS>
gave you down arrow
for talking about fight club ..
Stupid to the 10th power... at least...
You referring to me End ?
No not to you. The subject of the article.
Ursus: The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!
Mendez: [praying] The heavens declare the glory of the Bomb, and the firmament showeth His handiwork.
Mendez: Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.
Mendez: May the Blessings of the Bomb Almighty, and the Fellowship of the Holy Fallout, descend upon us all. This day and forever more.
Congregation: [singing] Amen!
[/beneath the planet of the apes]
I just went long LNKD $218/sh on this news.
Until you go 3x long ANGI you aren't in the same league as the pros yo.
Is this about Gold. Oil. USD. Or Putin is Hitler's son ??
600 advisers, my we have a very large conglomerate of war based consultants.
Well, I hate to say it, but maybe we just aren't ready for a post-cold war world. Maybe we NEED the constant threat of nuclear annihilation to help us 'keep it real'.
Such a shame...all the good will and potential we had after the Soviet Union fell, squandered. For nothing.
And we end up right back where we were, only now we're broke. Some fucking leaders we all have!
Madeleine Albright? Next thing you'll be telling us is that killing 500,000 children with sanctions was worth it.
You had a chance to get on board my "the pentagon's worried about running out of oil" but you squandered it.
It explains everything in a nice little package, if I do say so myself.
It's always good to see the police. Very reassuring.
Deleted (sorry)
For Humanitarian Aid. Signed, the Nobel Peace Prize
we're seeing the modern version of the mobilization we saw leading to WWI. Things move much quicker these days.
Don't know whether I should want Cold War II
to be NOT different this time, or different this time.
Five times (at least) nuclear war came too close for comfort, and was avoided.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/five-ways-nuclear-armageddon-was-alm...
Maybe Cold War II will end with the US collapsing in ruin, one way or another.
"Five times (at least) nuclear war came too close for comfort, and was avoided."
Sad thing is, the neo-cons (and whatever a neo-con is in Russia) will think this only proves that going right to the brink isnt nearly as risky as people believe.
If we can do it 5 times why not 20?
Theorists in the Rand corporation and the Pentagon have seriously considered,
and some have recommended, launching a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia
as a realistic and acceptable policy aim.
Once one cuts through the verbal obsfucation,
the current goals of "full-spectrum dominance" and the "missile shield" bordering Russia
unmistakably aim to provide the Pentagon with a first strike capability immune to retaliation.
Of course, they would never do that "unilaterally" either to defend US "core interests"
or because of an entangling alliance with any of the far-flung US "partners"
We have been assured (that the US has "exceptional" latitude).
Fundamentally transformed.
What is wrong with the Joint Chief's? These guy's are not idiots. Why don't they just tell the president, no, we're not doing it. No one that can effect Obama's over-the-top war mongering is doing anything except saying "yes sir". Why?
Obama got rid of Abel the decent generals over the last few years.
The Joint Chiefs can be fired and replaced with incompetent yes-men and psychopaths who will do whatever the Mulatto Farquaad expects them to do. It is partly a sense of professional pride, and partly a sense of responsibility to the larger whole, that keeps the Joint Chiefs from either jumping ship or entering into open rebellion, but eventually the good ones will be ran off. In the end the wheat has to separate from the chaff.
The larger hole, ass holier than thou, BHO.
600 U.S. troops?
NOT enough to fight a war. NOt enough to fight a small skirmish! But enough to cause an "international incident", which by the clever use of propaganda from the U.S. government and delivered by the western media, may be enough to convince the American people that a real WAR is justified.
My advice: Get together some Scotch whiskey, beer, chips, hot dog and hamburgers - because when the thermonuclear weapons start falling, it is going to be ONE HELL OF A SHOW !!!! Forget the barbecue grill, however - you won't need it. ;-) ;-) ;-)
Sorry to be an arse Jack but Whiskey is Irish and
Whisky is 'Scotch'. Not that it will matter.
Single malt doesn't need quotation marks.
US Banksters went full retard. Russia is not Iraq, not Serbia.
I doubt any country beside Poland will accept US troops within its borders. Fucking stupid crazy americans.
If anything happens the US population will see and feel the real war on its soil. Maybe this is what the TPTB want and need.
OMFG
It's like there's no adults in washington.
dc doesn't do anything without special permission from the shadow. only the shadow knows the real story.
FUCK AMERIKA
Hope they like apples.
So...
Poland doesn't have 600 troops of it's own? Or tanks?
I'm pretty sure Germany does and they are just next door. They have leopards too, one of the best main battle tanks.
They're all in Ukraine right now.
Leopard 2's are THE BEST tanks.
Just let me know when to pull out the lawn chair, my shades, and the SPF 10,000,000 sunblock. I'll have a Coke and a Smile, before being vaporized.
Mix the Coke with Everclear grain alcohol, over ice cubes.
Doesn't this phrase:
"The troops will originate out of Fort Hood, Texas (keep this in mind for a post later today) and will replace 600 paratroopers from the Army’s 173rd Airborne Brigade."
Kind of defeat the 'ESCALATION' meme?
I mean, we may not be that smart. But we can do basic addition.
With 600 coming, and 600 leaving, how many escalated?
What am I missing?
-600+600= ZERO????
It's the act of replacing these, with these and these and these that is the escalation. (firepower, not manpower, but since the 173rd is going "home" to Bunga Bunga Land and not Texas, there actually is a 600 person increase in Europe)
The First Cavalry was one of America's first major units sent to Vietnam. Do I hear history rhyming? Let's see - if the Tonkin Gulf was in the Black Sea, would it be located somewhere off the Ukranian coast, or if it was in the Baltic would it be off the Polish coast? Inquiring minds want to know.
But who does General Jim Anus get to fill the shoes of Fred Karch(RIP) at Nam O Beach?
RuPaul or any of Bathhouse's other favorites ain't gonna cut it.
More Fear Porn.
And then scroll down past Kate Uptons Boobs
Yeah, war is bad for everyone, except for the number of ZH clicks, but-
Is it jst me, or do Kate UP-Ton's boobs look, well, not so Up?
Gravity certainly still works, but if you flip her upside down, it can do wonders.
Given the American paranoia, I'd love to see the stampede if a superpower stationed nukes on its Canadian and Mexican borders.
do not worry, plenty of nukes just off the east and west coast's (subs)
The Ukranians will run screaming like girls when Russia invades.
They wont FS its shit or bust for Ukrainians ........again.
seeds planted a couple months ago, poland, bulgaria, romania, i'll paste a few clips
Obama's first stop was Poland, remember that F16 photo-op
Obama asks for $1B to boost US military in Europe | New ... nypost.com/.../obama-asks-for-1b-to-boost-us-military-in...New York Post Jun 3, 2014 - Minutes after landing in Poland, Obama declared that European security ... Poland, his first stop on a three-country swing through Europe. ... at this time,” Obama said, standing in front of American and Polish F-16 fighter jets. Bulgaria halts work on South Stream gas pipeline bigstory.ap.org › John McCain
Associated Press
Jun 8, 2014 - John McCain, Christopher Murphy and Ron Johnson that he has ordered all work on the disputed ... In particular, the EU decision will affect the South Stream pipeline,
[ he resigned the next months, jobs & income lost, people po'd] Bulgaria's prime minister resigns with bank crisis unresolved ... www.reuters.com/.../2014/.../us-bulgaria-election-idUSKBN0FS1...
Reuters
Jul 23, 2014 - SOFIA (Reuters) - Bulgaria's Prime Minister Plamen Oresharski stood down Romania and the EU - EUbusiness.com www.eubusiness.com › europe › Romania
Romanian deputy premier resigns amid minority rights row — 11 July 2014, 23:31 ... Romania to cut labour tax despite IMF reluctance — 12 June 2014, need stronger puppets, i'm sure all continents have disruptor crews in all about maintaining that FIAT "Philosopher's Stone" Printing Press, TPTB ain't giving that up
Did Russia buy out Zero Hedge? Everything seems to be Anti America lately.
No, most of us love America, just not our government.
so true
SUPERB +10000000000
Love America, despise our government
Spacecadet, cracking name. I was thinking the same thing but I reckon its
the NSA roping in all the US socialists and Putin cocksuckers. If it is the NSA I will
be safe :)-~ If its not I will enjoy the down arrows meantime.... all time.
Zerohedge, are we referring to a film or are we the cast ?.............Discuss.
that would be anti .gov of almost any kind but specifically the unipolar world led by the usa .gov under the guidance of the neocons.
It would seem more people on ZH aren't under the influence of the MSM nor believing the lies coming out of our government. Over half (2/3?) have law degrees. How can you tell a lawyer is lying? His mouth is moving... They've rewritten most laws with such language that it can be interpreted almost anyway they want.
duplicate
Did Russia buy out Zero Hedge? Everything seems to be Anti America lately.
Fuck off back to MPNET then if you cant face the truth.
troops, schmoops
how many drones? how many bots?
"Presented with no further comment."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEfqMXvNH3Y
anyone see any sign of silkworm, yet?
There had been enormous bad blood between Poland and the Ukraine since Ukranian partisans took advantage of the German invasion to massacre, rape, loot and burn Polish towns and villages along Poland's eastern border. It is one of the bloodiest untold stories of that bloody war. These events have never been forgotten, and certainly not forgiven. Payback will be demanded and it is inevitable. Just give the Poles one little opening and watch what happens.
Pollacks talk is bigger than fight, then get kicked and then cry victim same as past history?
and historically capable of plenty of atrocities themselves....
btw, most of west Ukies Pravyi Sektor and other radicals are Poles, not historical Ukrainians
As were there WWII forebearers in these regions....
explains why match of craziness and lack of common sense
not so much different dna that killed each other in your WWII example
whereas real Ukraine/Rus is other genetics
Looks like a couple of (tactical) 'room clouds in easter Europe sooner than later, question is by whom?.
Let's be certain those troops and their missile shield
as well as their Russophobe Polish partners,
all possess a hair-trigger response reaction to RUSSIAN THREATs on the border.
That way we can all be "assured" that every trivial incident could spark a major war.
Be assured, nothing to worry about. Nothing ever goes wrong.
Per CNN, Poland is in South America, next to Hong Kong. So, no worries for Russia.
Russia has a number of those
18 to 25 Megaton warheads on top of the R36s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_(missile)
YOUR US TAX MONEY WORKING HARD...NOT FOR YOU THOUGH
Well Said.
Is this what we People of the world pay taxes for, so our GOVT's piss it away on military equipment ( NOW FOR THE POLICE AS WELL) meanwhile the people are suffering from a lack of food and healthcare!
PEOPLE WAKE UP, GO TO YOUR POLITICIANS AND THROW THEM OUT OF OFFICE! STOP THIS FN CRAZINESS!
This 'training' excercise has been running a while and is replicated all over especially Eastern Europe.
The important difference here is that the US is putting in a whole lot of MBTs and supporting armour. This is a huge upgrade to force capability compared to the current Airborne troops. Troops will continue to be rotated but now they will have real, full function weapons permanently stationed there and probably enhanced quietly in stages.
This is changing totally the balance of power in the area, in a few ways the Estonians may not have thought through.
In particular, after this happens they will be totally under the control of the US. Up to now it has just been political or economic power the US applies, but now they cannot say no to Uncle Sam or the tanks can roll into town, not Russian but US. Bit like the US MBTs going into Norway.
Expect to see this kind of 'upgrade' to US joint excercise all over the place. These 'friendly assistance' operations are another facit of the defend the $ at all costs operation.
In most countries this 'training' force will be the most powerful military grouping in the country, easily and quickly re-inforced by a couple of plane loads of extra soldiers that no-one would notice until it was too late. The change-over scam. Are these countries really that blind or stupid?
It will be very interesting how Putin responds to this.
If the US was trying to force the pace of the BRICS bank it is certainly going about it the right way.
Get real.
How many tanks is "600 troops with APCs and Tanks"?
Let me tell you.
14 tanks
14 APCs
You know why?
14 tanks is a tank company led by a 25 year old captain.
You know why they don't send a platoon (4 tanks led by a lieutenant)?
Because you don't send a kid fresh from college who doesn't need to shave overseas alone.
Each company consists of about 150 people.
You know how I know that there are only 2 companies?
It is because the "Headquarters and Headquarters Company (HHC)" of the battalion has all the mechanics, parts, fuel delivery vehcicles, etc required to keep them running... and HHC has over 250 people.
Tanks break down - A LOT. They require HUGE amounts of fuel. They need GIGANTIC movement support. So even if you only sent ONE you'd have to send over about 50 support people.
So when they say '600' troops. I understand immediately that this means the support (250+) plus whatever the actual fighting element is that will be in the exercise. From there it is just simple subtraction.
We probably have more than 600 "private contractors" in Kiev.
Get real? I suspect that most people, especially politicians in East European Governments, would regard 14 Abrams and 14 Bradleys as a serious threat and better than their own probably old ex Soviet era armour. Estonia doesn't have any at all.
You make very valid points but I somehow doubt that there will be the normal direct link between soldier numbers and vehicles.
As you say this stuff can be very unreliable. It would therefor be extremely prudent to have more than is necessary for normal training operations. That way training would not be held up due to lack of hardware.
It would be easy to argue very reasonably to have say twice as many as were actually needed. Not a risk or threat to anyone as there would be no-one to operate them.
Until handover, when there could be 1200 not 600 boots on the ground. Then, 28 Abrams and the same number of Bradleys is a pretty good fighting force.
Militarism is not reassuring. Militarism is a sign of a lack of policy. I guess it would be too difficult for the unthinking Obama administration to demand another Crimean referendum or a negotiated peace between the ethnic Russian Ukrainians and the puppets of Kiev. We know we are completely screwed when the policy makers think it is acceptable to foist war on the world to distract us, rather than fix our own problems at home. The Obummer syndicate is bound to lose this war badly, why? Because it's about profit. If you ask Hunter Biden, he appreciates the US military protecting his investments from the tyranny of the peoples right to self determination. USSA, USSA, USSA......
great: just what we need.... a hostage force.
Task Force Smith, anyone?
are they going to import palestinians for human shields? i hear their brothers in the idf have some spares.
The big men want to take us to war dont they?
Try to frighten us, cowtow us, make us believe the others from where ever they are, are our 'Enemies'.
They are not you know, they are just like us, just doing what we all do to get by. At the lowest common denominator, and the lowest fucking point, we all do what a human can. And on a long enough time time line we all end up in the same place.
Its not us as people of any nation who cause this shit, its those who were born to rule us, or so they think.
Isnt it about time we put a stop to this shit as a collective then?
How much is enough my friends? How much is enough that will stop this?
We are as a collective much better than this continuing war-ing.
When we will say 'No More'?
I hope sooner rather than later.
:-)
ITM, I love you, man. No one says it like you, brother.
Unfortunately, to answer your rhetorical question, I think we have to have an event large enough to uncouple the perception that these monsters are immortal. They project an aire of invincibility with their statist militant police protection army. Once that aire of invincibility is torn to bits, the people can reorganize and fucking hang every cunt that volunteers to lead us out of the wreck that they got us into.
Thank you Chief.
Lets all round down the bullshit. As one we are nothing, as a whole, and I say this again and again.
We are fucking monsterous, we are unstopable, we are fucking legion.
Given enough leverage, we cannot be stopped.
Thats the laws of average, indeed the laws of physics. Ask him, he knows.
Best your ways anyhow mate.
96
But that's why they invented WMD's.
Can Russia send some missiles to Cuba now?
It has allies in Latin America which provide bananas.
That's the next step. Obama is no Kennedy.
600 troops? Oh, F me...Hitler invaded Russia with 4 giant armies. To deal with just 600 troops, the Ruskies would send in 1 Girl Scout Brownie troop and they would be home in time for supper and for doing their homework for the next day's classes. A war? Really? Grow the fuck up you bunch of wankers. Try talking, it works for me - I've been married for 45 years to a beautiful Sicilian woman - I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize...
Russia brings up 45,000 troops and obama sends 600... I don't think Obama is really into this or Iraq, or Gaza. He's being pressured, hell, Israel went around the administration to their friends in the Pentagon and got the ammo and bombs they needed (todays WSJ). Y'all should be glad this isn't Hitlerys time.
This is too much, what the hell are they thinking? Really over some nat gas money for Bidens son? Really? WW3 is worth it, really? This president is a desaster or should I say a weak minded fool that doen't run the country. Vallerie Jarret who do you work for? Its becomming Obvous that you are the one told what string to pull on Obama so who is your master.
So to be clear here
Allies = US installed Government created by Nazi extremists coup and not US installed Government now being overrun by Islamic extremists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11033692/Islam...
President Lance Link (secret chimp) is going to reassure the Baltic and Western Europeans that with 600 more NATO troops and more "assorted hardware" they are " " this much closer to being reduced to "pot ash", in a matter of minutes...
I'm with PCR...
If the American people aren't willing to transport their butts to D.C. to surround the Nation's Capitol in Ferguson part deux to make this shit stop, than be prepared to not live much longer!
Feb 2015 it starts. Get ready. They need winter to be passed.
i can't wait that long.
start it now.
Here is the latest Russian public analysis of what's up in the fighting in Ukraine at the moment.
http://en.ria.ru/infographics/20140811/191902618/Prospects-Of-The-Confli...
Dalton Trumbo
"Remember it well we we we are the world we are what makes it go round we make bread and cloth and guns we are the hub of the wheel and the spokes and the wheel itself without us you would be hungry naked worms and we will not die. We are immortal we are the sources of life we are the lowly despicable ugly people we are the great wonderful beautiful people of the world and we are sick of it we are utterly weary we are done with it forever and ever because we are the living and we will not be destroyed.
If you make a war if there are guns to be aimed if there are bullets to be fired if there are men to be killed they will not be us. They will not be us the guys who grow wheat and turn it into food the guys who make clothes and paper and houses and tiles the guys who build dams and power plants and string the long moaning high tension wires the
guys who crack crude oil down into a dozen different parts who make light globes and sewing machines and shovels and automobiles and airplanes and tanks and guns oh no it will not be us who die. It will be you.
It will be you—you who urge us on to battle you who incite us against ourselves you who would have one cobbler kill another cobbler you who would have one man who works kill another man who works you who would have one human being who wants only to live kill another human being who wants only to live. Remember this. Remember this well you people who plan for war. Remember this you patriots you fierce ones you spawners of hate you inventors of slogans. Remember this as you have never remem- bered anything else in your lives.
We are men of peace we are men who work and we want no quarrel. But if you destroy our peace if you take away our work if you try to range us one against the other we will know what to do. If you tell us to make the world safe for democracy we will take you seriously and by god and by Christ we will make it so. We will use the guns you force upon us we will use them to defend our very lives and the menace to our lives does not lie on the other side of a nomansland that was set apart without our consent it lies within our own boundaries here and now we have seen it and we know it.
Put the guns into our hands and we will use them. Give us the slogans and we will turn them into realities. Sing the battle hymns and we will take them up where you left off. Not one not ten not ten thousand not a million not ten millions not a hundred millions but a billion two billions of us all the people of the world we will have the slogans and we will have the hymns and we will have the guns and we will use them and we will live. Make no mistake of it we will live. We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love and bear our children in tranquillity in security in decency in peace. You plan the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.
-end-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11035401/Russia...
It's a great shame the reporter did not maage to take a picture of these alledged trucks and armoured cars so we could see them. What journalist does not have a mobile phone with a fickin' camera on it ? Where is the proof ????
"The Telegraph witnessed", (but failed to photograph), " a column of vehicles including both armoured personal carriers and soft-skinned lorries crossing into Ukraine at an obscure border crossing near the Russian town of Donetsk shortly before 10pm local time."
So they must be using those cameras with a tripod and a flash-powder bin with a cloack on the back you duck under
Latest Guardian headline:
Russian military vehicles enter Ukraine (as aid convoy stops short of border)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/russian-military-vehicles-e...
(Keep in mind this reporter has repeatedly tried to make this convoy out to be a trojan horse.)
Excellent observation general.
A cursory reading of articles by this particlar "reporter", reveals the fact that his main function is to serve as a stalking horse and trial balloon. He introduces a meme, and even if it falls flat or is exposed as false, TPTB still win, because it will be amplified and regurgitated plenty. If there is any retraction or correction (rare and huge if!), it is issued well after the meme has gone out and infected perceptions. It is published in print so fine that it requires an electron microscope to find, and receives zero media coverage.
The article in question is just flat-out atrocious. It would earn a failing grade even for a freshman journalism student.
Of course, there are many more like Shaun Walker, and this is done by design...
I wonder what that dumb cunt Jen Psaki will make of this.
SO...
Let me get this straight...
600 troops is a provocation.
BUT,
45,000 is not a provocation.
IS THAT RIGHT?
Some people need to retune their antennas. They've lost the sane and composed signal and are channeling stupid and crazy.
There are 600 russian troops inside the continental US as we speak.
INSIDE THE CONTINENTAL US.
Around 300 are manning the embassies.
There are another couple hundred doing treaty observation.
And there are a few score doing liaison.
RIGHT NOW. INSIDE THE US.
But 600 in a country that invited them, asked for them, planned for them, announced their arrival months in advance are a PROVOCATION?
What.
The.
FUCK?
Take out your tampons and try to get the sand out of your pussies you fucking cowards.
Let me get this straight...soldier
we get der 600 team usa boys but how many dual nationality yids and mossad spies are here fuck face : )
You never say anything relevant to the conversation. Grow up.
obviously 600 soldiers is not a provocation.
But a 3 month long war game on your border is.
When one of the planes of the allies is shot down -- false flag -- a la MH17
and all the assholes of NATO start screaming " Putin did it" in unison.
Who needs a provocation, when you've got a FALSE FLAG?
Get a map.
Get a compass.
Try to find your ass.
Russia was part of the '3-month exercise' and exercise planning.
Kind of hard to claim its a provocation when you helped plan it.
That is..
if you are honest.
If you are not, then who gives a fuck what you say?
Hey soldier-boy (gcjohns1971), you may think you are clever because you can roughly make the numbers fit into 600, but I doubt you are familiar with the "Ironhorse" MTOE. Even if you were, you have no idea how this particular detachment is organized. Yet that doesn't stop you from pretending to know how this particular force is organized. You proclaim their exact composition with the absolute certainty of ignorance.
Also... your head is up your fourth point of contact.
More than half of the "Russian forces massed on Ukraine's border" are inside Crimea. They would be there legally and well under the number authorized by treaty even if Crimea was still part of Ukraine. The smaller portion of the remaining Russian forces are dispersed across a 1,226 mile long border and inside the sovereign nation of Russia.
Nice try.
However, I fail to see the relevance of the 4th Infantry Division "IRONHORSE" MTO&E to a 1st CAV deployment.
You claim that I am ignorant while proving beyond a doubt that you are.
So, for a little more information. Go look at the participants announcements for the exercise.
If you look at the ones dated before Yanukovich's ouster, you will see that RUSSIA WAS PARTICIPATING IN THE EXERCISE.
This means they helped plan it.
How is something the Russians helped plan a provocation to RUSSIA????
IT is not if you are sane and honest.
But the Russian Propaganchik trolls here are neither.
Get your shit back in your borders and then have a nice cup of shut-the-fuck-up.
Oh man!! That is too funny!
No wonder you "fail to see the relevance of the 4th Infantry Division "IRONHORSE" MTO&E to a 1st CAV deployment"! You really don't know do you?
I see now that I gave you too much credit. Aw, screw it, i'm feeling frisky...
Hey Gomer Pyle, do you have that nice, steaming cup of shut-the-fuck-up with you? Good; I hope you prepared it to your personal taste, because I am going to spoon-feed it to you. Not only that, I will also help you extract your cranium from your fourth point of contact. What can I say? I am a great guy and I am here for you...
4th ID is the "Ivy Division". I never mentioned it and I have no idea why you would even think it is "Ironhorse". Here, take a look at the official Army Special Designation Listing, and see what 4th ID is. (spoon fed hint-38 lines down).
The force of 600 comes from the 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division. Here is an organizational chart for 1st Cav. Take a look at the first Brigade; see it right there on the left? It is called "Ironhorse". To further hammer home the point, let's look at the official Fort hood page of 1st Brigade, 1st Cav. Once again, "Ironhorse". If you have any doubt you can also look at the official Army Special Designation Listing once again, and tell me what line 11 down says. That's right! "Ironhorse", and 4th ID is the "Ivy Division".
That is why I recommended that you review the Ironhorse MTOE. By the way, you do understand the difference between Mechanized, Armor, and Cavalry units right? If you do not, just let me know, and I will be happy to give you a block of instruction. If you do not know where to start your search, the FAS is happy to provide some rudimentary MTOE outlines for you.
You with me so far Gomer?
As to your certainty of the composition of forces, because you can make some approximate unit numbers fit into an arbitrary number (600), let me point some things out for you.
Army Col. Steven Warren told reporters that about 600 soldiers from the Fort Hood, Texas-based 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, will rotate to Poland as the next unit to participate in the reassurance initiative.“They are bringing training equipment, to include infantry fighting vehicles, cavalry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, M-1 Tanks, engineering equipment and other equipment organic to U.S. cavalry units.”
"Warren noted the 'Ironhorse' soldiers who will replace the 173rd Airborne Brigade will participate in the theater rotation exercise for about three months."
Got all that?
Armor companies do not have M-2 BFVs, CEVs, M9 ACEs, M-3 CFVs, M113s, etc... Neither does an HHC (or HSC for that matter). Clearly, this is a combined arms detachment.
There goes your simplistic "Two Armor companies with 14 M1s apiece and an HHC" concept. So it is back to the drawing board for you. Pull something else out of your ass and re-do your grade-school math to make the numbers fit.
"How is something the Russians helped plan a provocation to RUSSIA????"
I would ask if this is a joke, but you are clearly serious (which only makes it funnier).
Ooops, the cup is empty.
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rothschild balls balderdash and piffle init.
The cold war ended because at the time there was a real person in the White House (JFK) Obumber is nowhere as intelligent.
The US will not stop until this planet is barely inhabitibal and we are all slaves!
Some one please stop them! American citizens stop your liar and thief!
Well, a war with Russa should be enough of a distraction for them to do what they want domestically... like finish turning America into full-fledged tyrany.
OK, since the world has gone complete retard, I've decided to go full rogue-fag.
<rouge fag>
Come on, guys and gals, let's get serious, like this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/dancing-stars-2014-season-19-pro-dan...
Wouldn't it be great if they had (the corpses) holograms of Robin Williams and Lauren Bacal dancing together in a tribute? It would be so surreal, so sweet.
I sure hope the US and Russia don't start a war before September 15, the highly-anticipated start of season 19 of Dancing with the Stars!!!!
We wouldn't want anything detracting from those beautiful people dancing, like the NFL always tries to do. Boo!!! on the NFL and boo, boo, boo on Putin, the war-monger.
God bless President Obomber. He pays my rent and washes my free car! Oh, how I want to suck his d.... well, a girl can dream, can't he?
I want to dance...
</rogue fag>
Yesterday the Dutch Safety Board announced it would publish its findings sometime in September.
The MSM did not pick up the story. Probably the release will not suit the lies the MSM has been spreading these last two months.
Given the cruel bombardment of Donetsk and the current travesty of the Russian Relief convoy, it appears Washington, Kiev, and Brussels want to provoke Russia to some "unacceptable" reaction before the Dutch release their findings.
Then the Dutch findings would be drowned out by the MSM coverage of whatever Russia was provoked into doing.
And Washington, Kieve, and Brussels will then make Russia's reaction out to be more criminal than Ukraine's downing of MH17.
But compared to the three stooges trying to provoke him, Putin is a grandmaster and is unlikely to take the bait.
Given the stupidity of the West, my guess is that a missile will destroy some NATO equipment.
FALSE FLAG, OF COURSE.