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Ferguson Right Now: The National Guard Is Deploying - Live Feed

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The National Guard is on its way to Ferguson, Missouri...

 

this comes as 'official' sources have stated that Missouri Governor Nixon gave "no heads up" to the White House before deploying The National Guard...

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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:10 | 5109121 Ms. Erable
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FYI - it's just as imbecilic the second time.

Welcome to ZH, fucktard.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:29 | 5109217 forwardho
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Ha! Ha!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:50 | 5109288 Zadok
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First lesson...double posting... Bwahahaha!

Welcome to fight club, learn to write, type, and reason. Articulation while you're at it.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:05 | 5109372 Jethro
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Apparently the google translate function from Ebonics to American English still has a few snags?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:49 | 5109293 BlackSwanCrash
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welcome to the idiot cage. Average poster IQ = 30

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:22 | 5109461 Ponzi Pontiff
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Please feel free to fuck off then.  Your departure would raise the mean IQ considerably.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:04 | 5109704 BlackSwanCrash
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i seriously doubt that

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:00 | 5109053 Duffy
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It can not be over-statd, how poorly trained and disciplined NG soldiers are.  A number of them may, in fact, be police in civvie life, but this is unlikely to translate to prudent, calm policing.

 

You send in the guard when it absolutely, positively needs to be fucked up by morning.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:06 | 5109100 yogibear
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"You send in the guard when it absolutely, positively needs to be fucked up by morning. "

The weekend soldiers will shoot a few more which will be like whacking the hornet's nest.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:11 | 5109130 Duffy
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exactly

 

I'd form a perimeter, many blocks away, with cops in regular dress and a small number of riot police.  I'd order the cameras out of the area where the mob is gathered.  I'd otherwise listen to people more familiar with the area and de-escalate even if it means sacrificing a few more storefronts.

Hopefully, I'm just being cynical. 

However, this seems like a recipe for more dead protestors, and at some point, some of tem will shoot back with erious calibur....  and that's assuming .gov doesn't have agents prov. in the audience...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:57 | 5109335 Atomizer
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Another Kent State massacre in the workings. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:02 | 5109354 Jethro
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The national guard has a well deserved reputation (as a rule...i'm sure that there are some exceptions).  As a former active duty infantryman, we generally looked down on the reservists (and they generally have better training and discipline than the NG units).  Hopefully these clowns can avoid a blue on blue incident.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:01 | 5109055 Kprime
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now we got some real potenial for an armed response.  We can use up some of that expensive ammo.  we will have to buy more.  Stock market up 180 points on this good news.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:02 | 5109071 Iriestx
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National Guard should check the welfare rolls and go door-to-door putting a bullet in the heads of every one of these FSA welfare apes.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:25 | 5109190 Kprime
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that's sure gonna hurt walmarts stock price

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:30 | 5109873 Boxed Merlot
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hurt walmarts stock price...

 

 

Still too close to the first and fifteenth.  BATS will have a more deleterious affect imo.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:01 | 5109069 JohnFrodo
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Only in America I hope. But why did someone bust down Justins door and not harm a thing, except to tell him I can reach your?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:04 | 5109070 GOLD AND SILVER...
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So the guard is in Ferguson.  What stops these animals (the looters) from packing up shop and taking their shit show on the road?  Get in their cars, and twenty minutes later they're in Ladue or Frontenac (upper scale STL suburbs fyi).  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:06 | 5109106 p00k1e
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Flotilla across the Missouri or Mississippi rivers?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:15 | 5109146 robertocarlos
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The looters don't want France involved.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109202 Beard of Zeus
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I hope they do.

 

Then we can finally get this Race War (that we all know is coming) started.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:02 | 5109075 TheAnswerIs42
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Aaand we're off!

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:05 | 5109093 robertocarlos
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"The horses are on the track". BAD

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:08 | 5109111 hoist the bs flag
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5 vehicles rolled out...no mounted 50 cal. either... zzzZzzZzzZZ.. Zzzz

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:12 | 5109129 bbq on whitehou...
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Why not form your own township, if you have the numbers. Then you can higher your own police force and elect a mayor...etc.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109197 Monty Burns
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Lots of White communities tried to do just that, away from public transport to keep the orcs at bay.  But Federal courts, bussing and Section 8 were all used to undermine the projects.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:13 | 5109134 yogibear
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All the national guard has to do is some trigger-happy soldier releases a few and shoots one or more dead. That will set off riots elswhere in the country.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:14 | 5109145 Yes We Can. But...
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See that small man, Barack Obama, swirling down the toilet.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:23 | 5109184 Dungholio
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Obamao will be very upset when he reads this in the news.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109203 Kprime
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he can't read, he just watches CNN

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:41 | 5109258 forwardho
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His own words would bare that statement to be true.

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:06 | 5109714 Terminus C
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I don't like Obama... but really, we call him the TOTUS.  He has to know how to read (fluency at least, maybe not comprehension).

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:18 | 5109157 combatsnoopy
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Fox News reported that the New Black Panthers were looting in St Louis this past week.http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/14/fox-news-raises-specter-of-new-b...

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warns-new-black-panther-leader-in-ferg...

 

RUMORS SAY: "FBI Informant armed Black Panthers"

(the rumors were that Aoki armed the Panthers in the past...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/richard-aoki_n_1812167.html)'

 

After the business of blockbusting to create white flight... this is too believable.

 

The white supremacists I had the misfortune of running into are the biggest pathological liars.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:46 | 5109278 walküre
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I'm sure glad they're not telling us that ISIS has boots on the ground in Ferguson and converting the town to radical Islam.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:20 | 5109168 Suisse
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The last time the national guard was called out under a Nixon, they shot a few people (Kent State). Maybe that will finally get these people under control.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:28 | 5109211 yogibear
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Or a call to arms in other cities.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:23 | 5109180 combatsnoopy
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Funny, Scott Olsen was shot in the head and people were crying bloody murder. Now bloody murder happens? 

The way Mr. Brown ran at the cop is the same exact way tweaker the racist landlady ran at me to attack me (August 7).  I didn't hurt the landlady even if she provoked and deserved it.  THe cops didn't even ask me if I wanted to press charges.

 

The moral of the story is to screw morals.  White is right.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:55 | 5109326 Jethro
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Black is beautiful, and red is grand.  But white is the color of the big boss man.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5109528 Bloodstock
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But an asshole is an asshole is an asshole,,,

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:35 | 5109538 Smallfry
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Combat Snoopy-

Have you ever tried visualizing things going your way? Have you ever written down a goal of having an apartment with a nice landlord, putting up  a visual of it on your bathroom mirror, and focusing on what you want? Do you think your beliefs are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy? Dr. Shad Helmstter has some CD's that reprogram you if you have a self-sabotaging personality. There's even a CD for financial success.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:37 | 5110284 shovelhead
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Add in an additional $29.99 and you can get a stop smoking / erectile dysfunction CD too.

You must hurry and order now for this limited time offer.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:22 | 5109181 Paracelsus
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I keep thinking about the part in that Soylent Green movie where they bring in these huge trucks with scoops on the front to scoop up the people in the food riots.Later on Charleton Heston finds out that the mega corporation is processing Soylent Green out of bodies.

I wish I could think of a less dystopian scenario here but alas...

The state militia is brought out only in emergencies where the locals cannot cope.I am not sure this qualifies...

The Katrina case was different.The local Nat Guard unit was deployed to Iraq and watched the situation from afar.

Someone once commented that it would be better to use local troops because they would be respected and listened to,and obeyed.

That said,there are cases where the troops have gone over to the side of the locals.This really would cause anxiety in DC.....

The really scary scenario has been posted by a few commenters here and elsewhere.To wit:  Why is it okay for Wall Street to rape the planet and get a bailout from the taxpayers,but the looters here are vilified? It is also quite possible that many of the looters are from outside the area (opportunistic).

These fellows are black and do not respect the law,but the white guys,merchant bankers,are okay with the SEC and justice dept.?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:16 | 5109430 Ckierst1
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FWIW, I think it was Soylent Red, otherwise, the whole proceeding is dripping in irony, what with the gummint sanctioning a 0.001 percenter looting, but playing good cop/bad cop with the forces in the hood, not that I am down with the looters at all.  Law always seems to be made in haste from tainted circumstances.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:24 | 5109188 Dungholio
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Tomorrow send in UN peace keepers maybe?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:54 | 5109317 Jethro
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Its the dream of many a prior US miltary member to put a 7.62 diameter hole in a blue helmet if it's on US soil. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:24 | 5109189 TheMuppet
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Violence worked pretty well for the maidan neo-Nazi rioters.  USG even handed out cookies in support.

So to all the race-haters posting here:  Start your own white supremacist riot, get free cookies from the USG!

Only those blessed by the USG get to riot, mooch, and recieve Get Out of Jail passes.  They are typically on the Far Right.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109206 Monty Burns
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You're well named.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:46 | 5109283 BlackSwanCrash
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"Excellent!" (accompanying finger-twiddle)

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109199 yogibear
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Nixon, that brings back memories. A name with bad luck.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109204 arby63
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I think we all forgot about the obvious: BULLISH!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:28 | 5109209 freedogger
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They should have Canada come in as peace keepers. We used to be pretty good at that before 911 happened. It would be nice to get back to our roots and help you guys out. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:29 | 5109216 agstacks
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"We came here to do two things; kick some ass and drink some beers.  We're almost out of beers."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:45 | 5109240 royal
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I don't like the thought of the military being deployed on US soil at all.

But something needs to be done about these rampaging jigaboos.

They can't just be allowed to continue looting and destroying property.

The police tried to reason with them, but these idiots only comprehend one thing: Force.

You have to physically take it to them or they will not stop.

 

 

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:46 | 5109275 BlackSwanCrash
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jigaboos? OMG

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:49 | 5109290 walküre
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seriously, NSA is turning over every rock looking for new bloggers these days .. including tombstones

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5109303 royal
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Jigaboo was me being diverse with my racial epithets.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:04 | 5109373 jay28elle
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As much as I hate to say it, I agree with everything you said except the use of jigaboos.

I will add that this problem, at this point, is a problem for the local community and state, it's mayor and govenor and not the feds.  If drastic measures have to be used to quiet the civil discouse, it is up to these people, not the DOJ or BO to deploy the means they have at their disposal. Which so happens to be local and state law enforcement and the MO National Guard.

This will get multiple times uglier than it already has.  Agitators from around the country are in MO, including New Black Panthers and others from Oakland.  The 'professionals' in the group are not from Ferguson, so they don't give a rip as to what occurs there, so long as civil discord continues.

 

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:06 | 5109380 besnook
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that is exactly what israel's rationale is for destroying gaza periodically. curious that you would apply it to this situation.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:37 | 5109244 p00k1e
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"I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids—She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance.—She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage.—As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarreling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal; and even when those weapons are shown and extended for her defense, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of stepping on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?[5]"

 

- American Guesser

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:39 | 5109246 Unstable Condition
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Are they bringing water canons?

Hell, the NG looks less militariezed than the local 5.0

Are they there to help break shit?

I don't get it...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:51 | 5109304 Jethro
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No kidding.  The NG has armored HUMVEEs, and the local popo has an MRAP and better gear? 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:18 | 5109442 pupdog1
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They seem to have forgotten the belt-fed weapons that are supposed to be on top of their hand-me-down humvees.

They need a shoot-on-sight order for brothers throwing Molotov cocktails.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:41 | 5109251 mt paul
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there will be no cigar stealing 

in furguson today..

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:09 | 5109395 jay28elle
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...cuz everythings already been stolen from all the shelves?

Who compensates the store owners?  I doubt insurance companys do since this is now a 'declared emergency'. Had the locals (and the implanted agitators) not went on their looting spree, likely the poor ole store owner who got strong-arm robbed would get insurance to cover the 10 boxes of cigars that gentle giant Mike made off with.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:43 | 5109267 Troy Ounce
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Question:

 

Are those freedom fighter who came to Bundy's assistance also going to Ferguson?

 

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5109315 walküre
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No. They're probably busy hosting Pro-Wilson rallies and planning marches and parades in honor of Darren Wilson. Except maybe for a small percentage who really understands what is going on and why color doesn't matter.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:00 | 5109339 Ckierst1
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Damn straight, man!  At least as many as the Fergusonian contingent that went to Nevada!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:04 | 5109362 Duffy
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Question - did a single liberal or urban black give a single fuck about Bundy, or do anything but call him a racist and right wing?

Go fuck yourself with that bullshit. 

 

Just like the Daily Kos mob to insult and denigrate a group of people for X, then decide they *should have* acted the same way for *Y*.

 

Idiots, fucking idiots.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:50 | 5109302 Atomizer
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Don't forget to shutdown all social media communications. That should get the tribe fired up. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:58 | 5109312 foodstampbarry
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Blacks will never move on as long as bobo, rev al, rev jesse and the like continue to feed the black community this BS about being slaves 200 years ago and that they are victims and need affirmative action to be made whole......F U, go back to Africa.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:01 | 5109348 Atomizer
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Jesse Jackson will continue to pass around his donation basket.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:37 | 5109532 tony wilson
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jesse yes sir

he travels the world

gives a good speechie

has der write oration his oral skills is real sweet.

but dat niggers mouth stinks of rabbi semen yes sir

just anudder more controlled opposition

owned by those  caananites that run der show.

 

jesse is lucky they usually get the black man to dress up as a girl as ritual

maybe jesse done it but i aint seen it yet.

this shit got legs rupert murdochs fox and his vice tv edgy show all over diss

jesse must be doin sumat right cos they aint killed him yet so he still a useful tool of zion

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:48 | 5109590 luckystars
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Journalist tweeted last night "Vice News was escorted out by police and we are all left here in between two police lines"

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5109318 curbyourrisk
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And what are their orders?  WIll they follow?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:00 | 5109341 vyeung
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orders are shoot on sight. Lets get this hideous party on the road. Thats what Washington wants. I mean how long before American's wake up that this is their fate in the very near future.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:09 | 5109398 Skip
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Holder Orders Third examination

"Any race that is held back by segregation is held back by association with itself and such a race better do something about itself instead of demanding that another race also be held back by associating with it"

Carleton Putnam - 10/26/61 Jackson, Mississippi

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:10 | 5109401 q99x2
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Washington D.C. is retiring all the US personnel and hiring foreigners to run their military. Maybe the retiring ones will want to create a military for the United States of America.

WASHINGTON — Almost 8,000 senior enlisted personnel must go before a continuation board later this year to determine whether they can continue to serve or must retire.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:10 | 5109403 BustainMovealota
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This is much more than just an issue of suspected police brutality.  I saw the footage last night and the police did not seem to have a problem controlling the folks.  This has become some sort of exercise.  A real time training / prep for what is going to happen all over this country. (And nothing to do with the original issue) 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:25 | 5109839 p00k1e
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Using guillotines I’ll lop heads from X-ians for minimum wage.   

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:12 | 5109407 22winmag
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Expect a bloodbath.

 

The national guard turned Newark, NJ into Fallujah with thousands of live rounds fired in 1967.

 

Fools.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:22 | 5109469 MrButtoMcFarty
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I sincerely hope you are correct.

It's time.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:11 | 5109409 Freebird
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Folks just lettin off steam

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:13 | 5109418 luckystars
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Now this is insane.

Pregnant woman looking days before delivery puts on gas mask in Ferguson.

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/501230181776764929/photo/1

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:34 | 5109534 walküre
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It's for the children!

Maybe she's Jewish? Maybe Israeli?

Did that German tourist trio get lost on their way to tour the Arch?

Is this the first contingent of the Icelandic sleeper cell?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:16 | 5109774 Terminus C
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Don't fuck with the Icelanders... they got killer sheep.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:13 | 5109421 Atomizer
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How many NG humvee's do think will be car jacked?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:14 | 5109422 DadzMad
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I don't know.  I've been watching the RT live stream for a bit and nobody seems to really want to get going.  It looks like my wife and kids packing everything but the kitchen sink for a camping trip.  I think I saw them pack a Weber grill and a half barrel of Bud.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:19 | 5109451 massbytes
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I haven't heard anyone on any of the news feeds that I have read, point out how the only businesses not looted we due to their owners and employees defending them with their own guns.  Especially once the police decided not to intervene.  And the business owners didn't even have to shoot anyone.  Just had to make it clear they would.  Easier to loot the unarmed.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:23 | 5109466 luckystars
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And another thing I said a few days ago is CEO's aren't there to protect, just the local owned and self protecting.

Long live Mom n Pop!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:25 | 5109488 therevolutionwas
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A question to ask is why aren't more store owners out there with guns?  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:44 | 5109579 CharlieMike
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Never let a good opportunity to file a huge insurance claim go to waste.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:58 | 5109668 luckystars
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Yeah I think some are wanting out. You gotta give it those who defended there stores.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:22 | 5109462 grunk
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The Feds and Eric Holder are involved to supply weapons to both sides.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:23 | 5109464 DadzMad
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16 minutes since my last post and not one vehicle has left.  Something tells me these guys aren't to enthused about this "mission".

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:35 | 5109541 arby63
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This isn't the Kent State National Guard folks. These guys are almost all prior service and 80% of them spent the last 10 years deployed on/off in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Don't think for a second they care for this action.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:11 | 5109739 walküre
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Plenty vets are righteously pissed off at their country. This could take a turn into a whole new direction. The catalyst, the call to arms for each citizen who's had enough of the cronies.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:23 | 5109472 pupdog1
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Tin soldiers and Nixon coming.

History doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:24 | 5109485 Muppet
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Chicago is much worse.   Past weekend: 7 dead.   No news coverage. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:28 | 5109508 therevolutionwas
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Agreed.  And that's every weekend!  No media coverage!  1984.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:30 | 5109513 arby63
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Despite the Fed's delay of the inevitable, we are in fucking bad shape. The world is on fire to varying degrees, but we are just getting started. I worry for my kids. 

What a mess.

Long food, ammo, guns, well water and friends.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:32 | 5109522 Bill of Rights
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County investigation: Michael Brown was shot from the front, had marijuana in his system

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/county-inve...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:38 | 5109553 walküre
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I knew it! Mary Jane makes 'em all crazy and violent! More funding for the war on drugs and WA and CO can the fuck out of this union of the United States of only big corporate pharmaceutical overprescriped drugs America.

Seriously though. Haven't met a stoner who would potentially muster the strength to supposedly charge at a cop. That's news to me and I've met my share of tokers, bongers and stoners.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:55 | 5109642 SpeedKing
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An altered state of mind is an altered state of mind.  Pot in the system (yes, yes, no big deal in any normal situation, agreed) isn't something to overlook, any more than alcohol in the system would be something to overlook, or Ambien, or anything else that alters mindset. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:13 | 5109763 walküre
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Alcohol and THC have very different effects on the mind. Just talk to traffic cops.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:29 | 5109856 p00k1e
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Has the shooter (cop) had enough time to flush his system?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:46 | 5109586 Bloodstock
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Article says he was shot from the front 6 - 8 times! This is a tradegy!!! This is unaccepatable in the United States of America! The police are out of control, not so much as an occasional nut job cop but that they all have a license to kill and suffer little if any recourse for use of excessive force. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! * So what if he had marijuana in his system? Depending upon which test is administered he might have ingested the stuff 6 months ago!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:53 | 5109629 SpeedKing
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If Brown was running from the officer, OR was standing or kneeling still with his hands up then the officer should not have shot.  If Brown was lumbering towards the officer, then the officer should have shot.   If scenario #1 above, then yes, this is a tragedy.  If scenario #2, then there shouldn't be any remorse. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:35 | 5109530 Patriot Eke
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The National Guard is not the militia.  It would defeat the primary purpose of the militia for it to be a federally or state controlled military force.  The document referring to the militia is a good example of how far we have come (in a bad way).

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:31 | 5109868 p00k1e
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The militia being categorized as ‘National Guard’ changes the second amendment. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:37 | 5109547 Police Commissi...
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Those National Guard vehicles look just like police cars.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:37 | 5109550 Bloodstock
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People want to live in peace. Bankers and government embrace war.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:47 | 5109589 madcows
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The banker/gov part may be right, but the people part is crap.  These rejects in MO loot steal pillage rape murder, etc for a living.  BS on the peace part.  St Louis and Chicago for that matter are third world hellholes.  The residents of those communities are our version of ISIS

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:43 | 5109574 notadouche
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Is it my imagination or has anyone else noticed how distant Obama and Attny General have been?   When there is a "situation" in states with Republican governors at the helm, the President and his minions swoop in and demand changes and personalize the situation using hyperbole etc... most notably Florida with the Martin kid and also Arizona with immigration.  I think he may have even messed with Texas????? 

In contrast when some nonsense happens in a state where the leadership is full of Democrats like MO for the moment, IL for his entire presidency,  Obama and team keep a very low profile, asking for calm and letting the process play out and generally do not inject themselves in that process.   

Is this a reach on my part or could there be some validity to my observation?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:36 | 5109905 p00k1e
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Obama?  'State's Rights', right?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:47 | 5109588 jacship
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Black Panthers-vs-National Guard

Things going hot tonite

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:49 | 5109600 BustainMovealota
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Anytime the Negros have a chance to defray, deflect and dismiss responsibility as to who and what they are you will always see this response from the negro community.  To blame themselves would impede the ability to blame whites, and eventually curb entitlements that the negro needs to even exist.  (because they can't do it on their own accord) 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:50 | 5109603 luckystars
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Something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear....

and it can't be good for anyone but the elites in my opinion.

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:50 | 5109613 grunk
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Local police -----> State police -----> National Guard -----> ?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:59 | 5109671 homiegot
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ISIS

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:01 | 5109682 luckystars
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Highway Patrol before National Guard.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:51 | 5109620 Skip
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Seen on a bumper sticker:

NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR BEING WHITE!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:57 | 5109634 walküre
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Darren Wilson's Mom was a convicted con artist. She had a criminal history going back further than just the cons.

She died when Wilson was 18.

What legacy is that for a man and how is this person fit to "serve" as a police officer? Could the PDs be a little more discerning in their quest to fill the ranks?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726614/Mother-policeman-shot-de...

Mike Brown is dead, shot 6x of which 2 bullets to the head. I'm not a coroner but this looks like an execution style shooting.

Mike Brown's autopsy showed trace amounts of THC. What drugs was Darren Wilson on to cope with his demons?

You want to talk character. Let's talk character! All facts on the table! Where is the cop being held at this time?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:10 | 5109738 luckystars
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Shall we lookin into the history of Michael Browns parents, since you opened the door for that?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:18 | 5109784 walküre
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Sure, why not?

Mike Brown is dead, Darren Wilson is alive. Mike Brown didn't stand a chance.

Where is Darren Wilson and why was Darren Wilson ever accepted into the Ferguson PD?

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:25 | 5109837 luckystars
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Really? If your mother was a criminal then you should be rejected for a job.

Man, can't believe you're saying this.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:57 | 5110046 walküre
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you see that's the problem right there

a cop is not just a job. a cop gets to carry a loaded gun on the job and that requires some exellent character in my world.

how many loose canon cops are out there? thousands because like you, the employers are not willing to discern

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:25 | 5109832 quadratic_equation
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Yes, go ahead and do that.  But he made a good point "where is Darren Wilson being held"?  If a common citizen shot Michael Brown he would have been indicted for murder and held in jail until bail is posted and court date assigned.  Meanwhile, a cop is given a suspension with pay much like having a vacation.  So if a cop fed up with work and can't see going to work, all he has to do is shoot someone (make sure he's dead so he can't testify) and make excuse as in "fear of his life" and he gets the unscheduled vacation he wanted.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:31 | 5109876 luckystars
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We give the police the right to use deadly force when reasonable. Cops are very rarely indicted for that reason. Almost never convicted.

Why does this mob have the right to know where he is?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:42 | 5109940 quadratic_equation
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"We give the police the right to use deadly force when reasonable. Cops are very rarely indicted for that reason. Almost never convicted."

Exactly!, and why is that?  Why are they given the license to kill?  Why are our military personnel arrested and prosecuted when they do the same to a terrorist?  Remember Lt. Pentaro (I don't know if I spelled or named him correctly) and many other soldiers and marines in Iraq and Afghanistan prosecuted for less than what the cops does to the citizens.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:04 | 5110089 walküre
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Well, he's not at home so where are they holding him? The St. Louis Hyatt?

Why does this mob have the right to know where he is?

The PD could have made a reconcilliary move to calm the protests and declared that Darren Wilson is in jail and the AG and PD are following due process. Alot of broken glass could have potentially been avoided. Instead they incited more violence when they started hiding behind the store's surveillance vid and the unarmed petty theft.

Mike Brown was gunned down by a cop with questionable state of mind.

The rest is conjecture.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:28 | 5109852 luckystars
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Lets hope Sandy Finney  and Mickelle Gordon never have a need to call the police.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:50 | 5110011 p00k1e
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Laura Bush killed her boyfriend. Go ahead, check Snopes.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:15 | 5110138 Sophist Economicus
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"I may not be a coroner..", well, you also never had much fire arm training or been in many REAL fights

If the 'child' was running at the cop, he has only a few seconds to make a decision. The way the shots were fired, it looks like he was taking torso shots and not getting them into the chest area (bullets hitting the left arm)

The two head shots were just 'bad luck' for the poor charging 'kid'. That cop didn't aim there.

And,for the record, you should know that if you have a holstered gun with a safety and I am within 30 feet of you with a knife, I will win everytime in gutting you. The cops know those odds too

So, when a goon comes at you after you tell them to 'freeze', and he wants your gun, and if he gets it, you will be dead -- what would you do? Try to have a wrestling match with a 300lb person that has nothing to loose except spending some time with his buddies in jail for a few years if you survive and arrest him? Meanwhile, if he kills you, he gets 25 years, doesn't give a shit anyway, and you make the news as another dead person at the hand of a defective individual.

In the real world, bad people play for keeps and do not share your values of life

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:54 | 5110670 Vuke
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Nice post, except reports say the cop was running after the kid. That 30 foot BS argument wins everytime except with those that really know how to handle a gun.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:55 | 5109646 Jack Burton
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I can't believe all this has broken out over one Brother who goes cigar shopping!  He was just looking for a bargain on his smokes.

Now everybody is all up in arms over the brother getting gunned down in the street. Nobody really knows what happened. The Brother may have presented a clear and present danger to police, who were simply acting in self defense. Sort of like Washington DC invading Iraq over it's clear and present threats to Bush and America. I just see the two as connected. Whether or not it is a national issue of self defnse or a city level issue of slef defense.

If you have followed American military, foreign or police policies in this nation the last decade, we have gone from a policy of use of force only when attacked. "Pearl Harbor" "9/11", to a policy of what Bush called preventive defense. In America's new culture of "force protection" our military invades anyone who has potential to threaten, i.e. Iraq. On the local level Cops operate under their new "force protection", when they say to each other "be safe out there", what they mean is, "when we go out on the street, law enforcement is secondary, we are mainly out there to protect ourselves first, and worry about crime later". Under these two policies, America bombs and invades as they see fit under "force protection". Once the military is on a battlefield, of their own creation, "fore protection dictates they shoot anything that moves, thus the hundreds of shot up civilian cars on the road to Baghdad. In the case of cops, they shoot first to stay safe. Better to gun down a brother out cigar shopping than to risk that the brother might ne a threat. Thus they shot him twice in the back, and when he turned around, posing a threat, they shot him twwice in the head and 3 body shots. All this is legal and morally justified under "force protection". We ant all our cops to retire at 50 will full pensions and health care for the next 40 years at tax payer expenese.

Only part of my post is sarc! I believe there is a grain of truth in my post even though it is meant to be sarcastic.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:02 | 5109683 walküre
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Jack, good post. Then they're taking shots at Putin for going after "Pussy Riot" or granting asylum to Ed Snowden for ratting on the US government.

US is full of fascist idiots who embrace the blunt force of THEIR state each and every time. As long as it's done in the name of the USA, USA, USA they are all hypnotised.

Pretty clear by now that their policies are very predictable no matter in which theatre they're fighting.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:03 | 5109694 luckystars
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Why didn't they riot over the black lady shot  dead in front of the white house?

guess it wasn't close enough to an election.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:05 | 5109712 luckystars
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He wasn't shot in the back, that was a lie tweeted out by some eyewitness.

He was shot 6 times in the front while facing the police car.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:50 | 5110653 Vuke
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Glad you clarified that.  He had his hands up. That made him an easy target for the cop.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:35 | 5109900 quadratic_equation
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"when we go out on the street, law enforcement is secondary, we are mainly out there to protect ourselves first, and worry about crime later".

If this is your idea of being a cop; then, you shouldn't be a cop because you swore to upheld the law.  You're justifying every shooting or killing done by a cop is perfectly legitimate because he's protecting himself first.  You can't draw parallel between countries attacking another to that of a cop killing an unarmed citizen.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:58 | 5109665 homiegot
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Obama and Holder are pissed because they have been caught flat-footed and can't control the narrative through the media. Plus the fact they will play the race card on this because the National Guard is inherently recist. This country is screwed.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:58 | 5109669 silentboom
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"Hands up don't shoot, store's closed don't loot."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:06 | 5109717 optimator
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Can't help but think of what the Russians did.  They'd put a few hundred civilians in a room with their hands straight up.  When anyone got tired and his hand went down he was shot.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:50 | 5110014 quadratic_equation
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You're equating the Russians to our police as if you're saying what our police does in shooting an unarmed citizen is ok because if the Russians can do it why not our police?  What happens anywhere in the world I don't care, what I care about is abuse of our government to us citizens as if we have no bill of rights.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:23 | 5110192 Sophist Economicus
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If you take a swipe at me , you have 'forfeited' your rights. At that point I am in my 'right' to fight back to defend myself. If I have a gun, a knife or a stick and I can get at it to defend myself, it doesn't matter whether you are armed or not

This is a basic concept. One doesn't have a right to torment another without facing potentially life threatening consequences

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:05 | 5109709 marcusfenix
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fed officials are now publicly questioning the wisdow of providing military equipment to local police forces...this is a headline on google news. makes u wonder why they dont bother to consider these things before doing stupid shit like this. "seemed like a good idea at the time" i guess. just another complete cluster brought to you by washington dc. and just think we have to sit around and watch them attempt to manage the whole ebola thing and a conflict with a nuclear armed nation...all at the same time. yeah,  we are all well and truly fucked now.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:14 | 5109764 IridiumRebel
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. These are all symptoms of the real problem. There is a tiny group of people that are trying to control the vast majority and it will not turn out well. As for Ebola, my wife's clinic just issued an alert. It's getting worse. Ukraine is making an ass outta itself with NATO and Western influence being complicit. They look like jackasses. What you are seeing in Ferguson is the first fractures of a public pissed off at the brutality of the police and it's furthering. This has NOTHING to do with race and the thugs getting they free on are another symptom entirely of the collapse of the welfare state and it's unintended consequences. This is all crescendo to the final collapse of the current system.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:58 | 5110050 p00k1e
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You forgot the Horses Skin Melting Off In California....

 

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:08 | 5109723 p00k1e
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