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US Furious After Source Of "Mystery" Libya Bombing Raids Revealed
Over the past week a new geopolitical mystery emerged: an "unknown" party was launching airstrikes against Libya, which is already reeling in its latest political crisis where headlines such as this have become the norm:
- MILITIA MEN SET HOUSE OF LIBYAN PM THENI ABLAZE: ARABIYA
- LIBYA'S NEIGHBOURS AGREE NOT TO INTERVENE IN LIBYAN AFFAIRS, CALL FOR NATIONAL DIALOGUE
The strikes puzzled all media outlets, including Reuters which just over the weekend reported that "Unidentified war planes attacked positions of an armed faction in the Libyan capital Tripoli on Saturday, residents and local media said. Local channel al-Nabaa said the planes had attacked four positions of the Operation Dawn, an umbrella of Islamist-leaning forces from Misrata which has been trying to expel brigades from Zintan, also located in western Libya." This follows a similar report when on Monday, the government said unknown fighter jets had bombed positions from armed factions in Tripoli, an attack claimed by a renegade general in Benghazi.
Turns out the renegade general was lying, and merely trying to take credit for another party's intervention. That party, or rather, parties has been revealed as Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, which as the NYT reports, "have secretly teamed up to launch airstrikes against Islamist-allied militias battling for control of Tripoli, Libya, four senior American officials said, in a major escalation between the supporters and opponents of political Islam."
But what is surprising is not the intervention: after all, hardly a day passes now when there isn't some small to medium political invasion taking place somewhere, in a world in which newsflow no longer affects anything. It is that both countries decided to roundly ignore advising the one country which previously had made it quite clear it has explicit national interests in Libya: the United States.
The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise: Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent, leaving the Obama administration on the sidelines.
It gets worse: Egyptian officials explicitly denied the operation to American diplomats, the officials said. It is almost as if the theme of ignoring and/or mocking US superpower status exhibited most recently by both China and Russia, is gradually spreading to even the more "banana" republics around the world. Because while one can debate the pros and cons of any previous administration, it is very much improbably that any regime, especially ones as close to the US as the UAE, and to a lesser extent Egypt, would have conducted such military missions without preclearing with the Pentagon first.
So now that the "mysterious" owners of the punitive bombing raids has been revealed, the next question is: why? The answer is simple - to keep Islamists in check. And since the US can no longer be relied on to do the bidding of formerly key petrodollar allies, the UAE decided to take the law into its own hands.
The strikes are another high-risk and destabilizing salvo unleashed in a struggle for power that has broken out across the region in the aftermath of the Arab Spring revolts, pitting old-line Arab autocrats against Islamists. Since the military ouster of the Islamist president in Egypt one year ago, the new Egyptian government, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have formed a bloc exerting influence in countries around the region to rollback what they see as a competing threat from Islamists. Arrayed against them are the Islamist movements, including the Muslim Brotherhood, backed by friendly governments in Turkey and Qatar, that sprang forward amid the Arab spring revolts.
And while "old-line Arab autocrats" may see the military invasion as justified (they can simply point to what the US is doing in Iraq), that doesn't mean that the US is happy in being ignored. In fact, quite the contrary: the US is "fuming" (perhaps because it is not the one conducting the airstrikes?)
Libya is the latest, and hottest, battleground. Several officials said that United States diplomats were fuming about the airstrikes, believing they could further inflame the Libyan conflict at a time when the United Nations and Western powers are seeking a peaceful resolution.
“We don’t see this as constructive at all,” said one senior American official.
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The U.A.E. has not commented directly on the strikes. But on Monday an Emirati state newspaper printed a statement from Anwar Gargash, minister of state for foreign affairs, calling questions about an Emirati role “an escape” from the recent election that he suggested showed a desire for “stability” and a rejection of the Islamists. The allegations about the U.A.E. role, he said, came from a group who “wanted to use the cloak of religion to achieve its political objectives,” and “the people discovered its lies and failures.”
Most important, however, is that as the NYT notes, this latest escalation in direct political intervention in a sovereign state, means the middle-east is no longer a playground for proxy wars: after all, who needs to beat around the bush when one can directly bomb a proximal country without fears of repirsals by the international community, as Abu Dhabi and Cairo have done:
Officials said that the government of Qatar has already provided weapons and support to the Islamist aligned forces inside Libya, so the new strikes represent a shift from proxy wars —where regional powers playout their agendas through local allies —to direct involvement.
All of this ignores whether or not the strikes have actually achieved their objective of halting the militants' progress. They haven't.
The strikes have also proved counterproductive so-far: the Islamist militias fighting for control of Tripoli successfully seized its airport the night after they were hit with the second round of strikes.
American officials said Egypt had provided bases for the launch of the strikes. President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt and other officials have issued vigorous but carefully worded public statements denying any direct involvement inside Libya by Egyptian forces. In private, officials said, their denials had been more thorough.
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American officials said the success of that earlier raid may have emboldened Egypt and the U.A.E. to think they could carry off the airstrikes without detection. Or the brazenness of the attack may reflect the vehemence of their determination to hold back or stamp out political Islam.
The biggest irony in all of this is that, just like in the case of ISIS, the U.A.E. is said to have one of the most effective air forces in the region, and is now using it to engage its own enemies directly, all of which is possible excluslively thanks to American aid and training.
Which means that at this point one can start the countdown until the US, seemingly in aattempt to halt the progress of another ascendent regional hegemon, will now arm the very Islamists that it was backing in Egypt before the whole Morsi fiasco, in the process making even more enemies, while the rest of the world awaits as the latest batch of weapons are used either against US interests in the region, or, as ISIS has shown, against the US itself.
Clearly, however, what is needed, is even more US intervention in a region which is rapidly bacoming nothing but rubble thanks to US weaponized "assistance and training", which benefits nobody except a few US military/industrial conglomerates, and the global money-laundering banking consortium of course.
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1. Did ISIS really seize those planes in Iraq?
2. Are ALL of those planes that were in Iraq still just sitting there -or have they been moved?
Kind of like losing 777's. Oops, rebooting the satellite.
Speaking of 777's. Be prepared! A 9/11/14 MH370 warning from the Lords and masters. Be prepare. Be scare. Be 'fraid. DEFCON 1 BITCHES!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9fN0Nx4Zcs
Dr. Jim Garrow, patriot, former CIA OFFICER (not to be confused with agent) was arrested in Canada for firearms violations after being turned in by his SON IN LAW.
Think we're not there yet?
HEIL baby!
Gringo Viejo is correct, in Langleyland, officers hire foreign agents
according to news reports he states that the gun was planted.
also reports that an assassination attempt was made against him in January of this year in Canada
Was a nail gun found? By the hot tub?
@Not Too: Appropriate Screen Name.
Turd Emiritas.
I feel a Grenada moment coming on......
Gotta prove we still got it.
A lot of Special Force guys lost their lives there. Came out of the surf into Cuban machine gun nests.
Intel was horrible. The US can only blow shit up, with great loss of life all around. I wouldn't call Grenada a win.
This must be the first time in living memory that the UAE has become involved in aggressive military actions of any sort. It has always steered clear of such things and I'm sure that remains the case with Dubai. So I guess this must be the Abu Dhabi Emirate going it alone with Egypt.
It is an interesting observation for a few reasons.
The GCC has a unified military force called the Peninsula Shield. The UAE was one of the few member states besides the Sauds that sent in troops to deal with Bahrain protests in 2011.
Besides calling up troops to protect Kuwait during the Iraqi war in 2003 that was the first time troops were called up to deal with a real internal threat to a GCC member state.
The $64 question is did the the UAE act unilaterality independent of the GCC here or was this a joint Peninsula Shield, Egyptian military operation.
If it was then you draw the conclusions here just how many people Obama and State Department have really pissed off in the region. We all know the Egyptian military is pissed at them still.
The Peninsula Shield...yeah they loaded up into their cars and Humvees and DROVE to Bahrain. And as far as military action goes - shooting up unarmed civilians isn´t all that challenge it´s being made out to. But this shit! Launching air strikes on Libya! Yeah right...
Without calling up my Royal contact in Dubai I cannot say if the UAE acted outside of the GCC or not. Since no other GCC/PS member took part as far as we know, I'd say they probably did act alone with Egypt. And given the rivalries between individual Emirates, I'd say it was Abu Dhabi wot did it(!) without much assistance from Dubai. But you never know....Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum (ruler of Dubai) was also the UAE Defence Minister a while back, when he's not breeding some of the world's best Arabian race horses or defending his No.1 position at Endurance riding. :-)
USA bombs people = GOOD
Anyone bombs W/O USA knowledge/approval = BAD
Now you are catching on. Next we'll work on math.
One for you.
Two for me.
You pay the taxes that pay for my two.
Rinse and repeat.
Unless you are Western Ukraine or ISIS, this is a true enough statement. Oh yeah and Israel cant forget those little bundles of love and forgiveness. Ahh the path of the rightous IS truely covered in blood.
Why would anyone tell the US anything? The current administration are a bunch of toddlers.
So that's the end of the 200 years history of Western imperialism. It's over. No idea what comes after.
Well I can guess, but I'm not going to muddy the waters just yet.
the next world order comes, that's what ;-)
Hmm.
I guess that is the standard response. Thus I am certain on principle it is wholly incorrect.
That idea is a holdover from the hyperventilating propaganda of the Cold War days. It had a kind of utility then but no more. The NWO is just another kind of imperialism with all the same challenges as are threatening imperialism now. The energy resources required to establish and then defend an empire simply are no longer there. If the US with all it's resources (and $2 trillion already spent) cannot hold Iraq -- one broken-down country in the middle of nowhere -- how can a NWO ever hope to take and control ... the entire world.
Forget it.
I don't even want to hear the arguments against my analysis. Any time the subject comes up it quickly devolves to "but ... shadowy forces of evils have evil powers!" and I mentally walk away. Come on people. Either operate within the limits of physics and geography or go play nicely in the kiddy park with the other children. I'm not buying your plot to bend a very much dying world into some kind of devouring hive of psychopaths. ISIS is making a run at it, but if they get much more than the Middle East under anything more that voluntary obeisance I'll be amazed. More likely, what ISIS want will simply evolve naturally from the coming chaos at the end of Western hegemony and all they'll have to do is be standing around with a plan to manage things as things fall apart.
And so, the rest of the world.
We are doomed to be united under shared chaos and dread as nature closes in around us taking us where we need to go next, and apart from that we will have no actual daily knowledge of each other, forever.
I think it seems reasonable that there is a grand conspiracy by a bunch of power hunger megalomaniacs. I don't think today's generation is nearly as skilled or as patient as their forebearers and that is why they are making so many mistakes and it won't end well for most people, as you describe.
That said, the fall of civilization is kind of exciting. It is a chance at a fresh start, if you can survive. The old rules and the tyrants that keep them will falter. Think of it as creative destruction.
Creative destruction is right.
Yeah, there are days when I find myself wishing it would just happen and get done with, so as you say we can get to proper work on worthwhile things.
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
? Henry Kissinger
"As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through Generaal (sic) Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here."
"Mr. Jones is basically telling us the National Security Council is run by Henry Kissinger. The NSC is the principal forum used by Obama for considering national security and foreign policy matters."
http://www.infowars.com/nsc-advisor-jones-i-take-my-daily-orders-from-dr-kissinger/
Kissinger and good old fellow Zigbie. Gotta love those freaks. Likely was caused by being targeted by bullies in pre-school. Or Mom took the tit away. Or their "marriage tackle" is small?
Obama is an idiot who will play golf and collect speaking fees and Board appointments. That is all he was ever about.
WhI must we wait to do good? Captured thinking. Create a space of freedom, love and possibility deep in your chest. Water it daily. Help it grow. There is nothing else.
Nope this is very narrow.
I agree BUT there needs to be an action that results. Meditation is just another ego self-indulgence if misused. This thought pattern you foster needs to also find a way into action.
So yes there is something "else". You have a heart; so use it but you also have a brain, a computer, a voice and a vote. You have choices you can use.
You missed the- "why wait to do good?" part.
The internet in current form is a "yes, but" machine. Ad infinitum. Breeds division without understanding. heat without light.
Yes but find some location to survive in? This may not be pretty at all. I have faith in EARTH the planet, It will survive. It is the humanoids; not so much.
Plus, just a thought. I see a huge difference in viewpoint here. I can tell who is under 30; over 30; etc. But what I really see is the tail-end of Boomers who all had parents living through WW2. There is an awareness of what could be coming. Humour is great. Awareness is state of mind beyond preconceptions/media.
War on Mars! It will be exciting.
But seriously though, fuck those guys.
We already got marines there, says some folk.
Every other conspiracy theory's come reality, so why not?
When the Perpetual War against the Caliphate is deemed irrelevant, then it'll be the Space Invaders.
Toddlers- Zactly! +10... The ycannot even manage a neighborhood riot let alone a regional war. Obomber is the Hoover or the Middle East - creating vaccumns, one country at a time.
And why would they after the whole Muslim Brotherhood and Malik Obama acting as an intemediary for the MB to cede sections of Egypt to Sudan without the Egyptian military's (which included Al-Sisi at the time) approval,
Everyone who doesn't have their head up their ass or actually believes the propaganda coming from USSA and it's mouthpieces knows Obama and the State Department are personae non gratae with the Egyptian military.
Just look at how they recently treated Kerry concerning Hamas (another Muslim Brotherhood franchise) when he tried to go over their to negotiate a truce.
they put out the "No Pets" signs
Love the way it's "kept secret" when the flyover included Saudi, Egypt, right within radars of Jordan, Syria and Iraq, US fleets and AWACS let alone satellites and radio ....
I mean FFS
And one of our guys is furious?
"I saw nussing!"
-Sgt Schultz
Permission granted.....
Where are the Qaddafi, "Miss me yet?" bumper sticker.
That'll never work here. Only about five Americans would even recognize the guy much less understand the humor.
There is no greatness in Libya. Being seen as El Liberator is much more likely to write a legacy. Start a food fight before the mid-terms.... Obomber is a douche and is surrounded by "yes men/women." I thought Egyot was going more Muzzie Bros? Obomber's legacy will be The Nero of Middle East.
"There is no greatness in Libya." - perhaps, but it still has some of the sweetest crude oil on the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqiGcG556SM#t=52
Maybe Howard Stern's buttcrack?
With the NSA and other intelligence agencies the US has operating I didn't think anything could be kept secret from US officials.
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
I could see Al-Sisi's crew in Egypt going after the extremists in Libya, but the UAE is far more likely to be funding them.
Personally, my money is on France, maybe Algeria being behind this.
The flight path depicted in the graphic might be ...inaccurate.
What if the flight path was south out of IRAQ with a right westerly turn over Saudi Arabia.
How many aircraft w/ fuel and munitions at how many airports were 'seized by ISIS' in the last two months?
Hmm. That British voice in the beheading video...
...Well... do the Brits have, um, any Colonel Kurtz loose cannon or T. E. Lawrence types running unleashed at the moment?
These assets cannot be bombed until they provide us entry into another nation.
Even more interesting when one considers that the Pentagon wing of power took down the CIA's Libya arms pipeline in prep to restore their guy in Egypt and protect their guy in Syria.
Looks to me that the Pentagon is again trying to protect their guy in Syria now that the CIA has uped the ante with their ISIS funding run into Iraq.
Popcorn, Twizzlers and a big-ass coke please.
An American, not US subject.
"Don't loose site of the treason forest for the tyranny trees."
It will be interesting to observe how quickly the geopolitical credibility of the U.S. slides after this incident. Once a 'shift' takes place, it is quite possible that the speed at which it gains could be surprising, even to the most level-headed and reasoned observer.
It'll be interesting to see if UAE ever allows the US Navy ever to leave the Persian Gulf or if the fleet is trapped.
The only other possibility is the rise soon of a virulent US nationalist government, with concomitant demands for world recognition, devoted to raising and defending the former glory of the post-Cold-War US empire. An experiment in insanity that would end eventually in some kind of nuclear exchange. Because the mindset of those kinds of people is death before dishonour, and if they can kill most of those dishonouring them on the way to heaven then it's a double-win.
They know about the nuclear weapons. They will by the will of God use them to punish the faithless heathens. They are insane,and they want to work on their insanity because life without winning is unlivable.
Probably 80% of Americans will put them in office and then cheer the first wave of nukes as they leave the silos.
Because -- stupid.
It'll be interesting to see if UAE ever allows the US Navy ever to leave the Persian Gulf or if the fleet is trapped.
Since the military ouster of the Islamist president in Egypt one year ago, the new Egyptian government, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have formed a bloc exerting influence in countries around the region to rollback what they see as a competing threat from Islamists.
"Several officials said that United States diplomats were fuming about the airstrikes"
“We don’t see this as constructive at all,” said one senior American official"
You Morons ... Air strikes are only for US,
I believe that Obama and the US State Department are pro jihadi islamists. If you were to look at all of he and the state departments foreign policy you would conclude that they are intending to support ISIS and the caliphate. Call it the Obama new world order caliphate foreign policy.
I also believe the US military hierarchy are not on board with Obama foreign policy and in fact may be trying to undermine it. The both stated and unstated Obama foreign policy undoubtedly is for a weaker response to world events from the US. I strongly now think that is why our foreign policy and military actions seem and at times contradict Obama foreign policy and leave everyone scratching their collective heads trying to figure what side we are on.
If a little green man came down from Mars and was asked whose side Obie and Hi Minions are on, it would definitely be the Muslim Caliphate and Gung Ho Destruction of the Entirety of Western Culture.
There is No Question Whatsoever Whether that is Real or Not.
Most those on the side of these polices are gonna be in for one motherfucking shock.
Convert, believe and pray diligently 5 times a day.... That's right. You're gonna have to be religious as you fucking can.... you're gonna pray to Allah with all of your might .... or die.
This is women are possessions and treated like shit time, no better than animals.
And I don't mean like Steve Martin's up on pedestals. This is chattel.
Your non-calendar will be of Burkina babes.
TV will consist of the Prayer channel, with Stonings and Beheadings as entertainment.
You will fucking learn the Koran by heart ... or die
Even Nazi Pelousi will be wearing eye shadow under her veil made with 100% pure organic natural camel piss
Allah Akbar
They flew directly over the US naval base in Qatar. There's enough AWACS over three regions that we could have easily tracked it. Every ship in the Persian gulf, north Red Sea and Med picked this up.
Just like we know exactly what happened to the passenger jet over Ukraine.
Oh and we sold UAE the Air Force.
Only the US govt can bomb the jihadis that the US govt itself trained, armed and let loose. No one else can.
The NWO secret army of destabilization and chaos can only be destroyed at the appropriate time in order to achieve the desired political/military outcome.
The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise
"I'm shocked" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
Those places, UAE, Egypt, they wouldn't do anything without getting paid.
Blow millions of dollars on fuel and weapons and risk planes and men to whack some turd in Tripoli?
Riiiight
BTW it was at night, so they used GPS bombs or laser guided so we had folks on the ground too.
+100
where did they refuel the fighter jets? this is not a turn around 5000 mile mission without the big AAR KC-135 assisting them with their big dot radar spot.
Notice how the Emirates air force doesn NOT attack
ISIS.
Saudi air force does NOT attack ISIS.
Egypt air force does NOT attack ISIS.
Israel air force does NOT attack ISIS.
And the ISIS "Caliphate" is a shorter distance to fly
Fuck the Royals, fuck the Neocons, fuck the Libs. All in this bullshit killing together
I will answer the Egypt one why. Who is right next to them for starters. Not Iraq or Syria. Secondly the Egyptian military has a history of guaranteeing that their country be governed by a secular Islamic government so it should be no surprise here that they are backing militias in Libya that want the Libyian government to be secular in nature also.
If they had to prioritize where they were going to deploy their military force to deal with the brushfires going on in the region you'd expect them to deal with their backyard first.
The rest of them you have a point though the UAE there is answer why also in light of all this if you understand the GCC is not as unified as you'd think and even the whole Gulf States alliances are starting to fracture not just Qatar at odds with the Saudis and other gulf states.
ISISrael
Couldn't agree more.
I have a feeling their day is coming. it will take boots on the ground, and that will take time to organize.
Saw something called "Operation Hornets Nest", where all the ISIS types gather in a fairly compressed area. then they get whacked. its googooable.
It's not a shorter flight for Egypt, whose military dwarfs the UAE, and whose country borders Libya.
Boon: Vicious mother, isn't he?
Otter: He can't do that to our pledges!
Boon: Only we can do that to our pledges.
[/animal house]
There is only so much shit to blow up and if the Egyptians go off using French munitions the US MIC won't be properly patronized. I'm sure McCain is getting his ass chewed by some former Air Force general working for Raytheon, GE, etc right about now......
Paveway +22
The number of US Veterans suicides each day.
Likewise the DoD never calculated KIA for badly injured US personnel dying in MediVac to Germany from the ME.
They just died in a hospital somewhere. Hohum
Just think. Even if they only took 1 congressman or senator with them.
Wow, your government is like a whiny control freak twat burning through your hard earned money like she owns a printing press. Sounds like my ex-wife.
When are you gonna divorce that bitch?
We're trying we're trying. Sadly the US Supreme Court is against divorce.
Who would expect the third coequal branch of the federal gov't to act contrary to the interests of the other two branches? It falls entirely upon the state governments to nullify the over reach of the national gov't. That's Federalism, but I'm not holding my breath.
Re: When are you gonna divorce that bitch?
We can't. WAY too many (R)etards and (D)umbasses are into S&M.
The magic of democracy.
Divorce is called secession. And that's raysiss
Crock of shit. These idiots don't do anything without USrahole's directive.
Thanks, Rothschild! You guys are fuckin great.
You know they don't return your calls.
"Fuming"?
The USA should be celebrating. What a bunch of dipshits they are in Washington if that is their reaction. We are so poorly served by the oligarchy.
It is shameful for any us to continue to pretend that these "Policy Think Tanks" and foreign policy "experts" are anything other than businessmen selling us a load of shit. These business shills have no interest in developing wise policies based on promoting American revolutionary values (i.e. promoting real pluralistic democracy).
No, these scum bags directing US Foreign affairs just want to sell us shit, expand their markets and get there fat fingers on more oil and more resources.
Clearly the USA needs more military bases in the region.
5,000 miles roundtrip over Saudi Arabia?
Fighter jets can travel that far?
Nope, they launch into space and kick it down a few gears before the bombing, pull a u turn, reverse the thrusters and all you need from there is a parachute and target to land on.
seriously doubt it... and only a few countries in that area can do mid-air refueling...
Only a handful of nations around the world.
If you read the whole story it is mentioned that Egypt allowed Abu Dhabi to use Egyptian bases to launch the attacks.
Exactly. They flew in a couple days ahead, rested, refueled, then did it.
Stopping on the way out for refueling maybe, then home.
Like every other missing 'MHxx' etc. All the satelites, AWACS and every other radar we have, along with NSA, XYZ not seeingthem?
saudis are in on it, and yes, refueling tankers.
I am sure. Still fucking implausible. Tomorrow the will tell us that UAE and Albania (also a muslim country) called the "freedom coalition" has launched a joint invasion of....India. A joint invasion with all the hallmarks of such a well drilled and smoothly running military machine. Just waiting for a glorifying portrait by CNN on the Albananian military genius general leading the charge on Iran or India or whatever,one of them rag - head I countries..Iraq,Iran,India.
End the FED End War.
Total bullshit.
"No one knew"...and a "mystery".
Pull my fingermuthafukker.
Be great if the US took this opportunity to fade away gracefully. Bossy fits are sooooo undignified.
Maybe they did try to warn Obama but could not get through to him as he was busy playing golf.
I can give a better analysis than these MSM assholes. How about: "Egypt and UAE begin covert air strikes against proxy Zionist-US-NATO mercenaries forces that are attempting to destabilize the Arab Muslim world. "
Because Israel's defense posture is improved with ISIS/ISIL surrounding them rather than status quo autocratic leadership. Yeah, right.
Have we seen/heard any direct attacks/threats against Isntreal I mean Israel?
An army coming out of nowhere, taking over large swaths of territory, taking control of commodities(ie oil, grain, etc making, according to ZH, 2 million a day)?
Documented references to leaders being trained by Mossad, CIA, XYZ?
Hmm. It sounds EXACTLY like an army set up to be front line to isntreal Isreal.
In firefighting it's called "BackBurning".
(Hey, why don't we just use XYZ to stand for / in place of numerous; CIA.NSA.DHS.FBI.ETC?
Qatar IS PLAYING WITH FIRE.
Anyone know why? I understand what is in it for current turkish leadership but how does Q gain?
good question. I know they want their natgas into europe, which is why syria.
but supporting islamists...............?
If a single false flag attack is good. A double-false flag attack must be twice as good. We win !
When McCain cannot be relied on in Syraq; when Hillary goofs in Benghazi, when Obammy chickens out of whacking Assad in Syria, when Boko Haram is more potent than Ebola in northern Nigeria, when Southern Soudan is an open land mine, when Afghan Talibanman kills 2 star generals, when Pak Oligarch says your democracy is double standards, when Hollande starts treading water, when Cameron is like smelly Camembert, when Boris goes full retard faschisti, when Mutti can't tell whether Ukraine is right or wrong, when Draghi can't tell QE from peewee, when Yellen stops yelling QE, when Putin says I'll up you one humanitarian transport, when Al-Baghdadi says I'm daddy O of mOsul, when Iraq says I don't know if I'm Iraq or Iran, when Kurds say you are all turds to Sunnis, when Congo says my bongo is full of Ebola, when Mrs Dos Santos says my dad was a commie but I'm the richest chick in Angola and Africa...you know the world is changing faster than Ferguson can say "we had a dream, now its a nightmare".
The world is round but the icebergs are melting down.
It doesn't stop Qatar from taking on Saudi and UAE interests in a game of intra Sunni proxy wars in Libya.
To think both teams are protected by US/FRance/UK military bases and with armies all decked in western military equipment that would make Assad cry in envy and Iran laugh and laugh, knowing no amount of weapons can save craven hearts.
Can only imagine what is going on behind the scenes. Can't believe much in the media anymore.
Only one way to get that qatari nat gas through to europe. through jordan and then syria.
no way it goes through iran or iraq.
follow the oil. or in this case, natgas.
either the events described in this article are 1)half true noise 2) deliberate planted information 3) true.
if they are true. , well, sheeeit ---things are getting complicated in the mideast no?
i mean, when is quatar at some point going to stop riding the fence between saudi arabia and iran .
no one wants to fight for the losers (iran) but as time progresses, the agitation of the u.s. becomes more irritating to qatar.
i think we are going to have bomb the fuck out of qatar soon to get those sand dwelling tribes of arabs who once raised goats for a living----to stop sitting on the fence and join our cause.
anyways, that's why the generals will say! alahu akbaramerica ! which translated to englarabic means-----america is a great god!!!!
The U.S. went from being the "Biggest Kid on the Block" at the beginning of the Bush 2 presidency in 2000 to now just a broken ediface of our former self.
Egypt would have never tried something like this before Obama. I hate to pin the blame on him but it is too obvious not to see.
Bush-boy went over and kicked the hornet's nest in Iraq and Afghanistan and then ran back home to Texas like a little girl when it didn't all work out.
Obama thought he could go in and reason with these countries that are now rebelling but now is in so over his head with incompetency and failure that he too is running away just like Bush. But to the golf course and fund raisers to ride out the next two years until he is done.
So where does that leave the U.S. for leadership? We have now had the worst back to back presidents in U.S. history. And I don't see anyone out there with integrity (remember that word?) who hasn't sold out to big donors and lobbyists.
Which leaves the U.S. and more importantly us as Americans in a world of hurt.
Our government is for sale to the highest bidder and the war mongers are winning. Our money supply is controlled by unelected university professors who have zero experience in the private sector.
Our news media is basically worthless neutered by the oligarchs that control our government.
I am not all doom and gloom as I focus on what I control. But what is going on with the U.S. government, our lack of leadership, and the sell out by the people we elected to lobbiests controlled by the super rich is something I would not have imagined in my worst dreams.
They probably consulted Putin. Soon Obama will be funding and supporting Muslim terrorirsts against Egypt and UAE.
Maybe he Already was. Muslim brotherhood and morsi. Suppose they were the to between in founding Isis on the down low and the new Egyptian gov have all the dirt on the key players to prove it. Hard evidence. Would explain why they tap danced on Kerry's horse face and are no longer taking orders from the Yankees.
Pure speculation but it adds up.
Calm down. As long as they are firing US missiles and the people firing those missiles have to buy more US missiles, then everything will be fine. We only need to get upset if those are Froggy missiles or Commie missiles...
Barry left out again.
Good job Sideline Barry.
The only fucker surprised were the fuckers on the ground in tripoli
Obama announced this evening he is sending a tiger (woods) team to Egypt, they will stand at the border and hit hellfire golfballs towards the jihadis in Libya.
The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise: Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent."
How much does the NSA cost Americans taxpayers again?
Seriously, America should stay the f... out of the ME. They don't get the local cultures or balances of power and have disrupted everything. And the people suffer. How many more bombs do they want to drop on this region? Haven't they done enough harm after decades of military interventions to "boost democracy"?
I love it, finally gutless Arabs taking on there own kind instead of waiting for America to do something.
to cn13
even in europe today the propaganda machine has reached unprecedented level (especially about ukraine: i.e. lies spewed by us gov via nato's ratmussen). today the french gov fell, might be the push to the shove on the financial system in our beloved european project. Belgium might have blackouts this winter (nuke plants down due to rot) Bunker fundraiser anyone?
UAE don't care, and the stooges we screwed into Egypt are temps too, the US is funding/directed this shit, those were night bombs either GPS directed or laser guided (ie US troops on ground).
UAE & Egypt wouldn't bother, they're too cheap, F 16 bomb raids are expensive, GPS bombs expensive, laser boms expensive, directors on ground expensive.
That map is a hoot. The UAE didn't fly fighter jets that distance to conduct a raid and return home. They were likely already deployed to Egypt, otherwise multiple in-fly refuelings occurred and that is a higher order military capability that is doubtful for such a small air force. They may have refueled in SA on the way to deployment in Egypt.
As far as getting approval of the US, I think this shows a decided bias within the article. Egypt has strategic interests in Libya and has moved militarily on other occasions, and not just in Libya. The bi-lateral relations between the US and Egypt is likely quite strained considering our Regime's support for the MusBro, ergo Hamas. I cannot imagine any middle/business class Not pushing its governments to engage the Islamists. Disturbing the status quo certainly hasn't been a boon to the Arab Street, at least so far.
When a country prints money to pay its bills and considers Iggy Azalea and Kim Kardashian talented, would you have any respect for them?
Did you even consider the size of Iggy's Azaleas in your equation?
Recalculating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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if you dont dance with the pretty girl
she'll dance with someone else
shit for brains borat ebola obumbler has created a vacuum..... now filled by various players with various agendas....
he thinks the ussa is respected.. perhaps.... but not his lame ass.
keep in mind these players (uae and saudi arabia) also funded and supported 9/11 (not egypt) and guess who else ISIS... YAZZA BOSS the same ISIS that promised to attack the ussa and fly thier flag...
when will the USSA realize obumbler and brennan are conducting a hidden agenda supporting the muzzie brohood and isis...??????? kind of like iran contra, using the sinaola cartel to provide funds giving them access and free reign in chiraq...
you know NOTHING-ISIS is the creation of and run by the CIA and the MOSSAD to create unrest in the ME
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what happened to the good old days of war where we had the good guys vs the bad guys.where we knew who was fighting who.we had the germans one side in their trenches and the allies on the other side.we had uniforms that distinguished who is who,we had ideology of the red army,fascism of the germans and america fighting for democracy.now i see everything gray. i do not know who stands for what these days.i do not know what people are fighting for or even against whom.all i am seeing is innocent people getting killed.this world has gone fucked up
Maybe you should let go of the last bit: nobody is innocent.
The good old days were just as bad, you just didn't know it. WW I was particularly tragic and with really grim consequences. The major media were complicit.
Good and maybe the Palestinians will start prosecuting the criminals that inhabit their space.
Barry and his fucking golf shit demonstrates the US doesn't fucking care anymore.
Who needs oil when Prius sales are up?
How dare they bomb Libya, that's our job !
I think it's adorable that people readily believe the U.S. was caught unawares. More likely some U.S. officials were not clued in on the plan or "we didn't know" is the official story. The word was already out that Egypt and the UAE were behind the airstrikes. All the U.S. did was confirm it and say "We were completely surprised!", which should convince no one.
That flight path travels over a lot of oil. Imagine pure chaos on that line.
North Africa is a busy landscape with the French working the Mali?
Of course Egypt and UAE could not inform DOD,DOS or Obama - who would probably screw up the mission like the recent failed rescue attempts that eerily resemble Jimmy Carter's Iran rescue attempt nearly 40 years ago.
Only Rome has the right to flatten.
war = profit profit profit
to those who have demon possessed the America
They get all the spoil rather say oil
and the cabbals will get a fresh new harvest of human souls to witch for conjuring
no way some camel drivers can manage a bombing mission so far with several air-to-air refuelling missions.
Dear US citizens, Pls. keep your zionist muppet idiot in WH as long as possible.
After 20 years destabalizing the Middle East, the fruits of the Zionists are growing fast. Each muslim country against each other. And at the appropriate time, when it develops into a world war, the ZOGs will send their goyim mercenaries to seal the Jewish masterplan.
Since Rothschild's times always the same principle of success for the enemy of mankind.
No wonder Israel and the Hamas can never come to an agreement: Israels stated goal of destroying the Palestinian state, and clearlng all of the Pals out of the country usuing Genocide to cleanse and take over ALL of the country-no wonder Hamas wont agree.... file under:What Israel isnt telling you