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NATO Releases Satellite Imagery "Proof" That Russia Has Invaded Ukraine
NATO released new satellite images on Thursday, 28 August 2014, that show Russian combat forces engaged in military operations inside the sovereign territory of Ukraine. The images, captured in late August, depict Russian self-propelled artillery units moving in a convoy through the Ukrainian countryside and then preparing for action by establishing firing positions in the area of Krasnodon, Ukraine. Russia's response - "reports on Russian troops in Ukraine are false."
The source of the images is an independent firm named Digital Globe. The images have not been altered or changed by NATO. Additional information has been added to identify locations, dates and equipment. DigitalGlobe images can be independently verified: http://www.digitalglobe.com
Story by SHAPE Public Affairs Office
Image 1 shows Russian military units moving in a convoy formation with self-propelled artillery in the area of Krasnodon, Ukraine, well inside territory controlled by Russian separatists. The image was captured on 21 August 2014. There is confidence the equipment is Russian, since Ukrainian units have not yet penetrated this far into separatist controlled territory.
Image 2 shows Russian self-propelled artillery units set up in firing positions near Krasnodon, Ukraine. They are supported by logistical vehicles which are likely carrying extra ammunition and supplies. This configuration is exactly how trained military professionals would arrange their assets on the ground, indicating that these are not unskilled amateurs, but Russian soldiers. Russian artillery systems like these have recently shelled Ukrainian positions outside the city of Luhansk in conjunction with a separatist counteroffensive to attempt to break the Ukrainian siege of the city.
Image 3 includes two pictures (left and right) and shows a military deployment site on the Russian side of the border, near Rostov-on-Don. This location is approximately 31 miles or 50 kilometres from the Dovzhansky, Ukraine border crossing.
The image on the left was captured on 19 June 2014 and shows the area to be mostly empty at this time. The image on the right was taken two months later on 20 August 2014 and shows the same location. Russian main battle tanks, armored personnel carriers, cargo trucks and tented accommodations can all be clearly seen. This is one example of the multiple encampments that Russia has positioned near its border with Eastern Ukraine. Many of these forces are deployed within a few kilometers of Ukraine, and are capable of attacking with little warning, and could potentially overwhelm and push-back Ukrainian units. Russia has also moved significant numbers of combat aircraft and helicopters to airfields along the border. Russian unmanned aircraft routinely cross into Ukrainian airspace.
Some equipment from these locations is moved across the border and is used to resupply and equip separatist forces operating in Ukraine. For months, Russia has provided separatist fighters with heavy equipment in the form of tanks, armored vehicles, artillery, and multiple rocket launchers. Air defense systems have also been provided to separatists, even following the downing of Malaysian airlines flight MH17.
Image 4, captured on 23 July 2014, depicts what are probably six Russian 153mm 2S19 self-propelled guns located in Russia near Kuybyshevo. This site is situated 4 miles, or 6.5 kilometres, south of the Ukraine border, near the village of Chervonyi Zhovten. The guns are pointed north, directly towards Ukrainian territory (see North indicator on image). See image 5 for an overview of where these guns are situated in relation to Ukrainian territory.
Image 5 shows a wider overview including the position of the self-propelled guns from image 4. Note the North indicator on this image, and remember that the guns are orientated in this location. It is clear that from this location, it would be impossible NOT to fire into Ukrainian territory. This is clearly NOT an exercise; these guns are being used to support separatist forces operating in the territory of Ukraine.
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"Proof" indeed...
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Merkel looking...
- *MERKEL: RECEIVING REPORTS ON RUSSIA TROOP PRESENCE IN UKRAINE
- *MERKEL SAYS EU TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE TOUGHER RUSSIA SANCTIONS
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Russia's reponse:
- *RUSSIA SAYS REPORTS ON ITS TROOPS IN UKRAINE ARE FALSE: RIA
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We have some oil and a ton of Mexicans...
Maybe dig a moat using illegal labor and flood it with oil and set it on fire?
DoublePlusGood
I think Tyler should call in to Mike Rivero's show...
www.whatreallyhappened.com
I think he might be right about using tanks bought from Hungary to fake a Russian convoy...
Anyway - off topic a bit but does anyone know who owns Russia's central bank? I thought it was state owned, apparently it is not. I wonder if there's any reliable info on ownership of a single closely held central bank?
central banks ARE state owned.
Let me modify your question: who CONTROLS the central banks? EZB
Let me make another modification of your question, should be: who owns EZB? EZB is owned by central banks AND private banks AND is controlled by the private banks.
MH17 blackboxes are still resisting, eh?
I took a close look at the already crappy image quality (how convenient to publish low res by the corporate/government press)
On image #2, the self propelled artillery battery pieces are highly similar in pixel properties, but what strikes me most is that the pieces line up exactly parallel to the image border and are on perfect parallel and vertical lines. I wonder if it's better not to say this, in case those traitors at the Pentagon need some easy undergrad computer graphics lessons.
I am sure I read somewhere that Russian soldiers use lasers to ensure that all their equipment is lined up properly on the battlefied.
Yeah right! ZH, just sell yourself off out to RT! They'll pay a lot, it's no wonder they have an annual budget of over $300 mln. The people of Russia are being deprived of their pensions despite Brent prices having been above $100 for five years. But who cares? It's people of Russia's problems!
Thank you taking care about us Slavs, 10.000 km away from Amurcia.
I hope, that your next contribution to this blog will be about 153 million amuricans, who get som almosna from your government and hang on the social benefits of your government.
Clean up your garbage first, then look arround.
I can't make heads or tails of satellite images and expect most people can't.
I wish some of you guys who know more about this stuff would post on nytimes.com - the warmongers seem to be winning there, not that comments sections are going to cause or prevent ww3...
"I wish some of you guys who know more about this stuff would post on nytimes.com - the warmongers seem to be winning there,"
Such post would last no more than 10 mins before being censored/deleted.
I think the satellite images are fake. The dead giveaway are the Artillery pieces, they are positioned in wide open spaces and an easy target from the air, so if they were Russian they would be concealed under camouflage nets but the Ukraine Military faced no threat from the air, so they most likely belong to them.
Here is what is being depicted in Slide 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S19_Msta
And this is the location that slide 5 is depicting as displayed on google maps:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=47.870992,39.03539...
Note that the range of this artillery is 29 KM, longer with rocket-assisted rounds. Note that they are located 10KM or so south of the Ukrainian border - and located within Russia.
Note that these systems require observers with radios, and suitable encryption and authentication technology such that the Firing Battery can identify them when they call for fire. And note that these forward observers must be located where they can see the target. Such units NORMALLY use their own observers and embed their own observers into any infantry units they support. This is critical so tha tthe observer can be sure to have any code changes, or authentication changes without which he may be unable to contact the artillery or adequately identify himself.
It is POSSIBLE for an infantry unit to call the artillery using their own observers. However, this creates a chain of trust, where the observer calls to someone who can authenticate him, and that person who the Artillery can authenticate, relays the request for fire.
ALL ARTILLERY UNITS WORK THIS WAY. If they didn't then every enemy would only need to shoot the soldier with the radio, and then call the 'friendly' artillery down on the rest of the 'friendly' troops.
Note that the East Ukrainian town of DIBRIVKA is right in the middle of their firing zone. (I wonder what is so important about that little town that it has so much artillery protection?) The existence of the town UNDERSCORES that these guns, in these locations, cannot possibly simply fire without full Forward Observer coverage. THE OBSERVERS CAN BE NO PLACE OTHER THAN UKRAINE for the disposition to have any utility in any course of action, whatsoever.
Even if we called it 'border defense' the observers would have to be in Ukraine, because the guns are too close to the border. If they were only defending the NEAR side of the border, then the guns would be PRECISELY 29KM inside of Russia - so that any attacker would have to be fired upon for 29KM before they have the possibility of directly destroying the artillery.
This close to the border is not feasible for a defensive scenario.
Firstly, when they firstly, when artillery first emplaces, it needs to 'register' the guns. This means to balistically validate the supposed position of the guns on the map so that further rounds can be rapidly and accurately fired by only changing the elevation and direction of the gun. You can' tdo that from a map, because a map is only 2 dimensions, but the ground is 3 dimensions- and the difference will have noticable effects on where the artillery rounds land. From these locations their 'registration' rounds would be landing inside the Ukraine.
Secondly, line of sight is likely a few kilometers at least in this location. Artillery is valuable and vulnerable due to the large size and explosiveness of its ammunition. If this were a defensive position, then there would be troops in front of the artillery to protect it, and to prevent the 'enemy' from getting close enough to it that they could blow it up. There aren't any signs of troops in front, except those that are in the Ukraine. And if it were a defensive position, at 10km distance from the border this position would only give the artillery a few minutes to break down their fire control center, and start rolling to get away. Even an elite unit would find it to be almost impossible to break down and relocate fast enough to prevent being over run, or significantly attritted. Remember, if you get a tank with in 4KM of these guys, and he sees them, then they are dead. That means that from the very first moment when a tank crossed the border, this artillery unit would have maybe 3-5 minutes at normal attack speed before the tanks could destroy them. Pretty much a suicide position, if defensive.
So it could be interpreted that this battery could be in position to lay down defensive fire in a rough area say 10 to 20Km inside Ukraine and certainly around that town. It may also never have fired.
nice post. makes me wonder where the sat pics are for the kiev artillery, and how they are set up.....
+ 2
Really enjoyed learning more about artillery. Thanks!
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generally great post, however you
are technologically behind the times
on the following:
"You can' t do that from a map, because a map
is only 2 dimensions, but the ground is 3 dimensions-
and the difference will have noticable effects on where the artillery rounds land"
reality is that this entire territory is
aerially photographed from different angles,
then planimetrically mapped at extremely
high resolution in three dimensions;
orthogonalized, and projective and affine
distortions then removed by rectification,
.
This simplistic planimetric methodology
has evolved into LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging)
a remote sensing technology that collects
3-dimensional point clouds of the Earth’s surface.
This technology is used for a wide range of
applications including high-resolution
topographic mapping and 3-dimensional
surface modeling .
Here are some links:
http://lidar.cr.usgs.gov/
https://lta.cr.usgs.gov/LIDAR
http://www.lidarbasemaps.org/
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/lidar/l6_p7.html
I upvoted u, but:
u make a distinctive logical mistake:
Why the hell wouldn´t Russia go in march all the way to Kiev, if they decide to do it?
why the hell should they fire from behind the border?
sure, that russians are in (like the yankee mercenaies are in, even the yankee generals and the boss of cia goes in, if needed)
the front in the south, which now encircled mariupol, is in my opinion based on the russian mercenaies, not the regular army. And they shoot.
Ukraine lost the control of their inner politics (dissolved parliament, self designated and selfelected prime minster with no approval of the people, coopted by jewess Nulland and pyatt.)
Ua lost the control of their economy hrivna went from 8:1 to usd to 14,5:1 from february until today a 90% devaluation.
Ua lost the control of it´s borders (Russia sent in a convoy taking no care about ua customs, just sent a note to Kiev)
Ua lost the territory; traditional russian lands, Krim, attached to Ukraine by ukrainian jew Nikita SOLOMON Chruscov and now will lose all other traditional russian land attached to Ua by another jew, grandsone of Israel Mosko Blank, V.I.Lenin, the Donbas Charkov Dnepr, Odesa Dnepropetrovsk Kiev Zitomir regions.
these images don't offer as much in the way of proof as the billing would lead you to believe. for one thing official sources are claiming the rebels don't have the expertise to operate the SPA's showen in the photos but they clearly ignore that some of those fighting Kiev are former Ukrinian military while others are Russian who more than likely have a military backround. so it's not really that much of a streach to believe that there are those in the ranks of the eastern fighters who do in fact have pleanty of experience operating artillary systems.
next the success of the recent push by Kiev was widely overhyped, there were plenty of reports going around to suggest that things really were not going as well as the media would like people to believe. issues plauging the offensive included low troop morale, defections, desertions, ammo and supply shortages, lack of effective command and control, lack of proper equipment, lack of effective air support and even food and water have been sited as serious issues. it could just be as simple as the Ukrainian army has run out of steam (or gas) and after the aid convoy made it through, has lost the iniative. remember a few weeks back leaders from the DPR and PRL did state that they were ready to launch a counter offensive and that could be exactly what we are seeing now. the sudden reversal of posistions on the battlefield could certianly make it appear that Russia has sent troops in but I think it is more likely that this is part of a long term strat. by the sepratist leadership who have military proffesionals in thier ranks. weather the storm, reorganize and consolidate thier forces and then launch the breakout counter attack.
as I said before I think if Mocow made the decision to intervien I don't think they would send ground forces without first launching a large scale air assualt to establish air superiourty as well as close air support for troops and armor on the ground. it just doesn't make much sense to leave ground forces exposed to enemy air power.
not that it would surprise me if Russia decided to intervien directly, I'm kind of surprised they haven't done so yet, I just don't think this is how they are going to do it when they do make that call.
They are in Russia.
It has nothing to do with Separatist expertise. To operate these SP Arty pieces requires a ton of logistics - litterally tons. Tons of ammunition, tons of fuel. The separatists don't have it.
Secondly. slide 5 pictures the arillery in Russia. IT IS IN RUSSIA - in a location that can only be used offensively, only against Ukraine. Look at my below post to see why.
Whether Russia is justified in doing this is debatable.
Whether or not Russia is doing this is not debatable. It is doing it.
Russia is doing nothing, those are Ukranian school buses.
You are an imbecile.
Hey!
Are those squares and rectagles in the last photo human wave troops? Can we zoom in on the political officer directing these troops?
Jeff Tarr looks like he cheats at cards, though...
http://2013.spacesymposium.org/speakers/jeffrey-r-tarr.html
Russia's big mistake.
They should have dressed up their soldiers in levis and spandex tee shirts and called them PODRYADCHIKI (contractors)
On a serious note, if I were Putin, I'd have the Army release scores of close-up, high resolution images (we know such an animal exists), to show the capabilities of satellite photography, revealing everything from license plate numbers in the parking lot at Langley to several Russian soldiers having a pissing contest on a photo of Obozo.
Then hold them up along side the worthless dreck that NATO had the fucking nerve to say proved something except what treacherous, slimy organization it is.
I can make these in paint to prove anything has invades anywhere. That could be a convoy of Elvis impersonators or Shriner s for all i know.
We aren't in a political, economic, or moral position to do anything about Ukraine. We ceded Ukraine, the Baltic States and all of eastern Europe to the Soviets post WWII. The dangerous aspect of this is a politically motivated act ordered by this pig in human skin (The Apostate,) precipitating a unexpectedly aggressive response from the Russians, and therein lies the danger of miscalculation that has so often resulted in war.
Lets take a trip down Memory Lane, shall we?
NATO Releases Proof That Saddam has WMD... OOPS!
NATO Releases Proof That Assad used Chemical Weapon... OOPS!
NATO Releases Proof That Putin Shot Down Malaysian Flight MH17 ... OOPS!
AND NOW...drum-roll please.....
NATO Releases Proof That Russia has Invaded Ukraine...
These lying mofo's are in dire need of some new script-writers - we're running out of "OOPS!"
They were also very convincing thate Belgrade TV station and Chinese embassy were military installations.
The facts which stick out like the Eiffel tower:
1) Ukie army units have poor morale,unmotivated,and units have been left isolated and unsupported.
This is usually accompanied by latrine gossip or rumor about how the well to do are having hot tub orgies back at
the base,or Capitol.I.E.,the burden is not being equally shared.
2) After the intitial burst of patriotism,this army will rely on conscripts (civilians in uniform) who hate to be
told what to do.
3) The US Army had a serious morale problem in the South Vietnam conflict.Fragging of officers and NCO's,etc.
Slows things down when a vote has to be taken before every attack.
4) The mothers of the Ukie conscripts are not happy at all.This questions whether the support for gov't policy (war) is solid.
5) Draconian laws against draft evasion,public demonstrations (against the Gov't) have been passed.This shows
a certain nervousness on the part of Gov't,and guilty conscience.
6) Although no doubt censorship restrictions have been employed,people are pretty savvy at getting around them and
as everyone seems to have a cell phone these days....
7) Pretty hard to run a modern conflict without tactical air support. This is negated by MANPADS systems on all sides.
8) I am having difficulty believing that the mafia who designed this fiasco would not have expected this outcome.
Therefore it becomes obvious that the strategy was to embroil the Russians so NATO would get involved.
There is absolutely no chance of American boys dying over there besides Mercs.
There is absolutely no chance of another American draft happening.The people making these decisions are in
another world entirely.
9) America is broke. This is the most dangerous superpower confrontation in memory.
10) The Arab Spring stuff showed that the ordinary muslim wants a vote in how things get done.
This Ukraine business just means the US has much more on its plate than necessary. (Watching China and Japan...)
+ 1
Excellent summary.
Bring the troops home....we have our own civil 'dispute' to 'debate.'
I still say that while the Ukies are getting their asses kicked by PRD fighters, Polish forces backed by US mercs are causing significant losses to pro-Russian troops.
There are way, way, way too many shot-up fighters tumbling into Rostov these days. Things look bad to me...
Where is your proof
The internet is your friend, do your own homework, Ace.
Nevermind which side if any occupies a relative moral high ground. The Russians are not going to let NATO/EU dictate in Ukraine like what happened in the former Yugoslavia. And I'm sure Mr. Putin and his Administration have long memories of the mercenary Americans fighting for the Caliphate.
More NATO lies, easily discredited. No wonder they posted this garbage on tumblr instead of an official NATO web site.
Image one shows a convoy of vehicles of some type. The low-resolution grainy image indicates an attempt to obfuscate the type of vehicles, which points to less than solid evidence. On 21 August 2014, the area of Krasnodon was under the control of the Novorossian forces. They took control in mid-July as the Ukrainian surprise fell apart into the first southern cauldron. As this cauldron was routed, the Ukrainian military was forced to abandon armored vehicles and equipment. I would say that, contrary to NATO's claim, there is confidence the equipment was captured from the Ukrainian military. This confidence is based on quite clear color imagery as seen here:
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/50213.html
Image 2 is also most likely to be these captured vehicles.
Image 3 shows Russians in Russia. While this area was mostly empty on 19 June 2014, a lot had changed by 20 August 2014. Significantly, tented accommodations were needed to provide shelter for the Ukrainian soldiers that sought refuge in Russia.
http://rt.com/news/177740-ukrainian-military-russia-refuge/
Images 4 and 5 have no date information on them. Their labels indicate probable self propelled guns, probable support vehicles, and probable firing positions. Probable falls substantially short of certainty. If we accept the NATO claim that these images are from 23 July 2014, perhaps the circumstances at that time provide a better explanation for these probable guns than the story being peddled by NATO.
That indeed happens to be the case. On 13 July 2014, the Ukrainian military shelled a Russian border town, killing one person. The Russian foreign ministry warned that such acts could have "irreversible consequences".
http://rt.com/news/172404-russian-donetsk-shelled-victims/
In fact, on 23 July 2014, the Ukies again shelled Russian territory, and on 25 July 2014 shelled Russian investigators that were examining the damage from the previous attacks.
http://rt.com/news/175632-shelling-ukraine-donetsk-rostov/
Funny how just a month ago, on 27 July 2014, the US ambassador to Ukraine released (via Twitter) similar "proof" of the Russians firing rockets into Ukraine.
http://rt.com/usa/175980-us-images-russia-ukraine/
By an amazing coincidence, earlier that very day, the Russian ministry of defense released a statement noting that international inspectors, which included representatives of the US, NATO, and Ukraine, had found no instances of any violations by Russia along the Ukrainian border.
http://rt.com/news/175944-russia-ukraine-border-inspection/
NATO - Never Any Truth Offered
Nice work.
A very excellent summary.
Sitting ducks, come on Obama. Just fly a couple of shorties, chicken.
for amusement:
Washington failed to verify the information, US Department of State spokesperson Jen Psaki said, adding, however, that the State Department had "no reason to doubt their [NATO's] assessment."
How convenient. The puppet government in Kiev is getting its ass handed to them on the ground, the people in Kiev and other cities are protesting against the government and their handling of the war. Mothers want their children back from the front, wives want their husbands back from the front line and families are being destroyed for what, for Hunter Biden and his ilk to make even more money? Lynch the war profiteers! They can make up evidence at NATO and not reveal any evidence from the MH-17 crash, black box data, cockpit voice recordings, Kiev air traffic control, NSA data, US Navy data, but instead we get nothing, just like the mob, silence is golden. But when they need evidence we get convenient lies that they pull out their collective ass and then feed us the bullshit. And Putin was very generous today!!! Here is what he said today:
Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the militia of New Russia
August 29, 2014, 01:10 - Full text of the address
It is obvious that the militia had reached considerable success in curbing the military operation in Kiev, is a deadly threat to the population of Donbass and already led to heavy casualties among civilians.
As a result of actions of militia large number of Ukrainian troops in military operations against their will, and carrying out the order, was surrounded.
I urge militias to open a humanitarian corridor to Ukrainian soldiers who were surrounded, in order to avoid senseless victims and provide them with the opportunity to freely withdraw from the area of ??operations, to reunite with their families to return to their mothers, wives and children, rushed to provide medical care injured as a result of military operations.
The Russian side, in turn, is ready and will provide humanitarian assistance to the people of Donbass, suffering from a humanitarian disaster.
Once again, I urge the Ukrainian authorities to immediately stop the fighting, stop the fire, sit down at the negotiating table with representatives of the Donbass, solve all the accumulated problems peacefully.
Ok now where are the photos for MH17?
It's just noise
If ukraine doesn't have control over the territory, de facto it is not an invasion.
Looks like they are moving into protect the citizens from Goldman Sachs.
Hypothetically - If the US & allies went to war with Russia, how many of you would fight?
Just curious...
I would have to "fight", but I don't live in the US.
I already have all the shots that protect me from my "ordinance".
Looks like Ukraine has been buying Russian lookalike military equipment for scrap prices in Hungary:
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=hu&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fw...
Switzerland takes a damn hell sh*t about those images
http://www.euronews.com/2014/08/28/swiss-put-the-block-on-russian-sancti...
Nato. If their shooting is as accurate as there analysis of satelite photographs don't worry if you are on the other side.
Wren´t they cheating with Saudi-Iraq satellite photos?
here is an article on globalresearch.ca
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-repeatedly-lied-about-satellite...
the next one
http://iraqwar.org/bush.htm
even a christian science monitor reported it
http://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p01s02-wosc.html
The St. Petersburg Times journaluist Jean Heller came withthe story
another one
http://www.representativepress.org/LiesAboutIraq.html
Why should somebody trust those crrocks today?
I wonder how long this can continue to be swept under the carpet in Russia?
Over 100 Russian Soldiers Killed in SIngle Ukraine Battle
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/uk-ukraine-crisis-russia-casual...
Kind of echoes the "captured" Russian who said he was sent as "cannon fodder".
The Jewess Polyakova herself says, that those guysshould they exist, are not a russian army, but russian mercenaries.
Yankess are in as well a lot of yankees, your generals are in , even the chief of CIA flew in, when he deemd it necessary, so what is your point?
Last I checked unless since March there has been a massive infusion of American or European military equipment into Ukraine, the overwhelming majority of military equipment in Ukraine is RUSSIAN. So that begs the question how does one determine WHO IS USING THE EQUIPMENT??? What's even more interesting is that you have Ukraine buying old Russian equipment from Hungary!?!
http://www.hidfo.net/2014/08/12/hulladekvas-araert-eladott-honvedsegi-harckocsik-utban-az-ukrajnai-haboru-fele
The question is what for?
Memo to self: Continue to avoid malaysia airlines.
Those photos look like cold war era U2 pictures. Can't they read small print with satellites these days? At least show me a photo of a Russian, not this crap. I can't believe people still fall for this kind of stuff.
If there was any credibility left in governments and satellite pictures, W and his dog Colin did it in permanently
This is my backyard, I can clearly see my barbecue and my dog's shit.
But we still can't find that plane?