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Kick Russia Out Of SWIFT, UK Demands
UK Prime Minister David Cameron came out swinging this morning; not only at ISIS but in calling for European leaders to block Russia from the SWIFT banking transaction system. European leaders have already (via unnamed sources) denied any actual new sanctions will take place (though they will be discussing them at the NATO Summit) but - as we have noted previously - this is yet another unintended consequence-driven nail in the coffin of USD hegemony...
Bloomberg reports that the U.K. Said to Press EU to Block Russia From Banking Network
The U.K. will press European Union leaders to consider blocking Russian access to the SWIFT banking transaction system under an expansion of sanctions over the conflict in Ukraine, a British government official said.
The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, known as SWIFT, is one of Russia's main connections to the international financial system. Prime Minister David Cameron's government plans to put the topic on the agenda for a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels Aug. 30, according to the official, who asked not to be named because the discussions are private.
This has consequences...
“Blocking Russia from the SWIFT system would be a very serious escalation in sanctions against Russia and would most certainly result in equally tough retaliatory actions by Russia,” said Chris Weafer, a senior partner at Moscow-based consulting firm Macro Advisory. “An exclusion from SWIFT would not block major trade deals but would cause problems in cross-border banking and that would disrupt trade flows.”
But then we already knew that...
But while collecting credit card data was to be expected, what is even worse is that the NSA has also secretly planted itself in the nexus of the entire global USD-intermediated financial transactions system courtesy of SWIFT.
The NSA's Tracfin data bank also contained data from the Brussels-based Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), a network used by thousands of banks to send transaction information securely. SWIFT was named as a "target," according to the documents, which also show that the NSA spied on the organization on several levels, involving, among others, the agency's "tailored access operations" division. One of the ways the agency accessed the data included reading "SWIFT printer traffic from numerous banks," the documents show.
What is curious is that while the NSA and its henchmen, in this case the GCHQ, had no qualms about violating personal privacy at every level, it is only when banks were threatened that someone feel like perhaps a line was crossed:
But even intelligence agency employees are somewhat concerned about spying on the world finance system, according to one document from the UK's intelligence agency GCHQ concerning the legal perspectives on "financial data" and the agency's own cooperations with the NSA in this area.
In other words, America's unsupervised uber spies, when not checking in on their former significant others, spend the bulk of their time tracking who is buying what, where, and with whose money.
2) Russia is planning its own (possibly BRICS-based) payment system...
Faced with the risk of losing access to the network, Russia’s government has already drafted a bill to create a new Russian system for domestic bank transfers, Deputy Finance Minister Alexey Moiseev said on Aug. 27, according to the Itar-Tass news service.
SWIFT transmitted more than 21 million financial messages a day last month, facilitating payments between more than 10,500 financial institutions and corporations in 215 countries, the organization said on its website.
“There’s no doubt that in the short term restricting Russian usage of SWIFT would be extremely disruptive to Russian financial and commercial activities,” said Richard Reid, a research fellow for finance and regulation at the University of Dundee in Scotland. “However, it may carry a longer-term downside, namely the likelihood that large chunks of Russian international payments flows would move to much less well monitored and measured financial channels and thus be beyond sanctions at any future point.”
and 3) Russia (and China) have begun the de-dollarization...
Several months ago, when Russia announced the much anticipated "Holy Grail" energy deal with China, some were disappointed that despite this symbolic agreement meant to break the petrodollar's stranglehold on the rest of the world, neither Russia nor China announced payment terms to be in anything but dollars. In doing so they admitted that while both nations are eager to move away from a US Dollar reserve currency, neither is yet able to provide an alternative.
This changed in late June when first Gazprom's CFO announced the gas giant was ready to settle China contracts in Yuan or Rubles, and at the same time the People's Bank of China announced that its Assistant Governor Jin Qi and Russian central bank Deputy Chairman Dmitry Skobelkin held a meeting in which they discussed cooperating on project and trade financing using local currencies. The meeting discussed cooperation in bank card, insurance and financial supervision sectors.
And yet, while both sides declared their operational readiness and eagerness to bypass the dollar entirely, such plans remained purely in the arena of monetary foreplay and the long awaited first shot across the Petrodollar bow was absent.
Until now.
According to Russia's RIA Novosti, citing business daily Kommersant, Gazprom Neft has agreed to export 80,000 tons of oil from Novoportovskoye field in the Arctic; it will accept payment in rubles, and will also deliver oil via the Eastern Siberia-Pacific Ocean pipeline (ESPO), accepting payment in Chinese yuan for the transfers.
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As we concluded previously, these short-term 'punishments' borne of ego and bluster merely further 'isolate' the status quo from the inevitable transition...
Still confused? Then read "90% Of Gazprom Clients Have "De-Dollarized", Will Transact In Euro & Renminbi" for just how Gazprom set the stage for the day it finally would push the button to skip the dollar entirely. Which it just did.
In conclusion we will merely say what we have said previously, and it touches on what will be the most remarkable aspect of Obama's legacy, because while the hypocrite "progressive" president who even his own people have accused of being a "brown-faced Clinton" after selling out to Wall Street and totally wrecking US foreign policy abroad, is already the worst president in a century of US history according to public polls, the fitting epitaph will come when the president's policies put an end to dollar hegemony and end the reserve currency status of the dollar once and for all, thereby starting the rapid, and uncontrolled, collapse of the US empire. To wit:
In retrospect it will be very fitting that the crowning legacy of Obama's disastrous reign, both domestically and certainly internationally, will be to force the world's key ascendent superpowers (we certainly don't envision broke, insolvent Europe among them) to drop the Petrodollar and end the reserve status of the US currency.
And once China and Russia show that not only can it be done but thanks to US prodding it has been done, expect other countries to promptly follow the anti-SWIFT axis on their own...
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Isolation... indeed.
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G20 meet in December, have you popcorn ready, and everything else you need.
So much for the SDR, and the GBP dominating over the Ruble and Yuan in its valuation.
ROTFLMAO.
I think we will see a SDR Jim, just not the one the Rothchilds wanted.
Prolly gold backed, Lagarde getting the heave ho is a message, she was
red shield property, the knives are coming out..
WC,
Check out this lil diagram.
http://www.tshirtfaction.com/?page_id=93
Just doesn't fit my personal experience Willy.
Through luck, whether its good or bad is debatable, I've been had personal/biz relationships
with oligarchs and celebrities all my life . Most were nasty POS, but without exception they
were loners/and or backstabbers. The whole idea of some structured world conspiracy is
a sick joke. The chaos the world is in , is a direct result of there being no control, not proof of
it.
Ocam's razor.
So here is the $64 million question. Dave Cameron is Red Shield and his tribe family has worked for them financing wars for 200 + years. Cameron is apoplectic over Putin and Russia. He goes mental over Putin.
So is Putin, Russia and China beyond the grasp of the Red Shield? Or is it all theater?
This IS about GBP's desperate measures to stay viable in International Finance.
IMHO, tides are a'changing; and People the World Over are equating(or desire the close proximity of) Money/High Finance and Oil/NatGas/Gold/Silver with possibly hard-covertible commodities as an addition going forward.
GBR and its GBP are instruments of extreme Bloat. The only thing that's propping up the Economy is their Oil/Gas Ventures (won over by bombing and shooting natives, inflated Real Estate Market, and its related Finance Schemes.
I'm pretty sure, Putin will welcome this with his usual laughter...
PATHETIC! That doesn't have either a "plan" or a "clue"!!!!
And son the United Kretens shot the last little piggy right off their foot and took it to market to make a black pudding pie for Saturnalia. Then they all starved or froze to death on their little island. The End.
I just rode the A train home tonight. So sweet dreams but don't let the bed bugs bite.
Hahahahahahaha! Russia and China decide to transact in non-dollars, and decide to expand their own payment systems. The reaction? The moron gringos pretend these changes were their idea. Hahahahahaha! How transpartent. Hahahahaha!
Greman Compaines will want to use the BRICS system, NSA better get more blackmail on German politicians ASAP. BRICS should include Saudi, that would be a game changer.
49 Up votes?
And nobody is willing to call him on it yet?
Well I don't cast down votes. So I will.
It is their idea because they are frauds that all represent the globalists but are acting as the sovereign states or heads of sovereign states like the US or Russia. They purposely are causing the implosion because that's what they want to happen.
So doing this to the detriment of the west or the east or Russia or the US doesn't actually matter. It is all about something. It has been proposed that it is just for a one world order. It may be. But I'm still not convinced that is it or solely it.
However, it definitely is all about certain actors and groups jockeying for power and position in whatever is going on, while maintaining the illusion of independent sovereign nations, freedoms, Constitutions etc. for the masses.
In reality there is no US vs. BRICS. There isn't really even good vs evil. It is all evil and factions within evil jockeying within it. At least I don't see any outwardly visible group showing any degree of influence that someone might consider good. And you, me and everyone up into the highest levels are along for the ride.
Some people want to know or figure out every detail of what's going on no matter what level they are at. Others are happy partying, being oblivious and don't give a shit. The more you know or the higher up you go the further and possibly more visibly you may fall. Like off the 33rd floor of a building after texting your girlfriend you're on your way home.
FIN
It's almost as if they want the USD to fall.
<Perhaps so they can usher in a new fiat Ponzi?>
They do this has been the plan,,,bring in the SDR's.
Advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. I'm going with malice though.
Cameron is only good at scaremongering now that Scotland's chances of voting for independence are increasing, and being Obama's lap dog.
What kind of karma causes you to be Obama's lap dog. Can you sink any lower?
Oh, I sold you short Mr Cameron. You wept openly at Margaret Thatcher's funeral. Yeah, the same one who protected all her pedophile ministers:
Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministershttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-personally-covere...
Always knew that hag was pure evil. Woe the children, abused when young and sent to die when they are lads, all for the sadistic pleasures of psychopaths.
Martin Armstrong thought she was the cat's pyjamas.
A little history. Thatcher was against Open Borders. The Labour Party ran campaign ads against her for that reason. Blair and Broon were for wide open borders for the NWO like Obama.
Today the most popular boy's name in England is Mohammed. The Labour Party-Left also pushes PC and using the marxist racism smear. So thousands of Enlgish children get raped by Muslim gangs in England but the police do nothing because of the fear of racism.
Thatcher was not perfect but the Labour Party is pure evil.
Oh and Broon sold off all of England's gold at the absolute low. The UK also got gun control under Tony Blair after Dunblane where the Dunblane shooter supposedly had a .22 and killed many children.
Racism is BS. The Police in South Yorkshire are CORRUPT. It was not Racism at Hillsborough. It is the same in West Yorkshire. Corrupt policing run through ACPO the private company that runs the Chiefs of Police and pays them secret bonuses.
They choose which laws to enforce and ignore others like Fraud. They are there to control people not protect, it is top-down policing ever since Thatcher used them to infiltrate unions and engage in heavy duty policing.
They have orders to prepare for civil disorder and tool up, they have MI5 liaison ready to lock down major cities when trouble starts. They let Muslim gangs rape so they can find informants and keep track, it is all about MI5 not local people
The Iron Cunt.
The Dentate Iron Cunt
<--- Pax Germania
<--- Pax Britannia
Who will prevail in the New Silk Road (Europe - Central Asia - Asia)?
Cameron to Obummer: "Quick, cum and save us America! The Germans are kicking our ass once again. This time it's a... woman!"
Rue Britannia
Henry Kiss-My-Assinger speaks..
Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order
The concept that has underpinned the modern geopolitical era is in crisis
http://online.wsj.com/articles/henry-kissinger-on-the-assembly-of-a-new-...
And to think that I used to think that this was was an intellectual giant. Well, it turns out that...
All the goys around him were simply still children: young and immature in the ways of the world. And like all children, they too grow up and eventually go to their aging uncle "There, there, Uncle Henry..."
read between the lines
reads like a serious control freak
you don't get to kissinger's level without being a control freak.
in any case, it reads like he's giving russia a free pass on east ukraine / crimea and telling the united states to stop meddling.
Universal principles = contrary to a pluralist world with different cultures, values and political systems.
Universal principles = Zionist world government.
Please spell the gentlemans name correctly, it's Hogshit Kissingjew.
Looks like the NYT was talking about a jew controlled NWO a LONG time ago.....now you got da grand puba of the jews talking about it. LOL.
NEW WORLD ORDER PLEDGED TO JEWS” October 1940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJt-82yTQBU#t=10
Excellent discovery.
But cattle do not care.
If you're going to use a really great old term, make it plain ... and spell it right:
Grand Poobah - derived from the name of the haughty character Pooh-Bah in Gilbert and Sullivan's The Mikado (1885). He held ALL of the state offices and ran the entire government. Bernellen comes to mind.
Some people are born dickheads - other work at it. Try not to work so hard.
Or maybe UK is the one should be kicked out
UK is a dangerous "rogue state"
admits former UK ambassador with insider knowledge
http://www.globalresearch.ca/former-british-ambassador-to-uzbekistan-say...
speech on video
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
Scotland, get out now!
Or kick the dual-citizens out. Open a 5-star hotel in some old German camps perhaps?
Go Vladimir go!!!
Happy Labor Day Mr Edward Snowden! Tag Anastasia and Ambrosia once for me!
I plan to do the Cossack squat kick dance thingy at tomorrow nights party.
This is a good move on Britain's part. Kicking Russia out of SWIFT will cause significant side effects for China. The mercantile nature of Russia does not sync with the mercantile nature of China. Whats good for the goose is not good for the gander.
China needs export markets and a bouyant global economy. If Russia rocks the boat over a small chunk of Ukraine, global harmony is disrupted. Putin laughs about it but the Chinese feel the pain. Pro-Putin backers joyfully talk about the pain inflicted on Germany. Why isn't anyone talking about the economic pain inflicted on China?
In times of global unrest, you expect oil prices to spike. When the world goes into recession, you expect exports to drop and oil prices to drop. Let's move things forward.
It is expected Putin will be an ass and that result will be a rise in the price of oil. Putin will stupidly play at being the big man. He is prepared to go all in.
Chinese exports will drop and domestic pressures will build. Why is the Chinese leadership supporting Putin? If things get serious, China will be offered a deal over the segmentation of the Russian economy. Either the Russians will offer the Chinese the deal because they need the money (or Chinese support), or the West will offer the Chinese the same deal in the neo-Russia governed under new leadership.
China will need "face" to keep exporting into the global markets. If they cannot ensure that Putin will not overplay his hand, the Chinese will side with the West economic regions. Cameron is offering Russia to China on a platter. The Chinese know this. So does the smart money.
Putin has no chance at winning anything here. He has seriously misplayed his hand.
Dude, thanks for getting it. I keep reading your comments -- you are a rare find in ZH's cesspool of lazy thinking. China-Russia partnership in one picture:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Pacman-cutscene.png
One thing you may be wrong about is the price of oil. There is a plenty of interest and now ability in driving it down despite the tensions. Witness the latest drop while ISIS drama is playing out. If something should go up in price but doesn't it'll fall even more.
oblom,
YOU too, interesting comment.
You three should just get a room and spare us your mutual manlove slurpfest.
Based on the history of your comments I'd say that you should quit the ZH circle jerk and save some pixels. Help the site load faster.
I can't worry about the pixels now, because I am laughing too hard.
Awesome comment!
The sock puppet crew at Eglin seems busy tonight.
Hi, fuckers.
When is Chow Time at the mess hall?
Get back to the NATO Stronk crew over at MPNET.
You Fags
You are just a pup.
Drown in ur NATO stronk propaganda.
You fool.
Might want to focus on something more useful. I will write it larger to maybe help. FOCUS! For a Strong Thinker like you, I know it must be difficult.
4 Weeks?
Thanks for the kind words. I think Putin needs money so he will do what it takes to raise the price of oil. After that initial spike, I expect it will drop due to economic slowdown.
Standard operating procedure.
Canucklehead,
Wow!
Interesting perspective.
Wow! Zionists ZH trolls unite! must be a slow day, is that your pic Escrava? i would rather rub a cheese grater on my cock than let you get anywhere close to it...
Squid, feeling horny again? Did the internet ran out of whale porn?
Squid Viscous,
Me, Zionist?
LOL
My suggestion to you?
Stick with the subject.
Ouch! I will never look at a cheese grater in quite the same way. LOL!
They hate Putin because he is a Christian and not a sell out to the oligarchs.
I find ironic when some of the commentators here mention brainwashing and/or ignorance.
But not surprising.
"not a sell out to the oligarchs", eh? Which planet do you idiots come from? Do you have any idea how Putin has risen to power and what he does with it?
If Putin demands gold for Europe's gas, I think that may change things a bit.
August 27 news: "Chinese private automaker Great Wall Motors (GWM) started the construction of a plant worth 520 million U.S. dollars in Russia's Tula Region."
It seems that the Chinese are ready to invest in Russia. They are eager to replace British and German cars in Russia. It's a huge market for simple and cheap cars.
You keep those happy thoughts. Analysis is not your strong suit.
Canucklehead
The Chinese, unlike you,
believe US-NATO expansion , not Putin, is to blame for the Ukraine turmoil,
Unlike you, they do not believe EU economic troubles would be avoided except for Ukraine.
Also, the sentiment is running against forever remaining a cheap export provider dependent on petrodollar payments,
which indirectly wind up helping to finance Japanese re-armament and encirclement by US military forces.
Nor are they pleased by US efforts to bar them from Asian markets.
You glean this from the capital outflows?
"It is expected Putin will be an ass and that result will be a rise in the price of oil."
Right. And a higher oil price hurts Russia (an oil exporter) exactly how?
"hey, let's destroy the world financial system 'cause someone won't kiss ass."
By far the best account of what's happening. The Ukies are getting totally shat on.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/august-29th-1535-utczulu-ukr...
Putin winning yet again. Obamarsehole and his poodle lapdog bitch Cameron lose.
How do you find your sources? Better question, do you consume any shit that floats by?
Allow me to paint you the future. Putin will be deposed, and likely killed, in the next 2 years. I'd bet 4:1 that by his own people. There will be a significant decentralization of power in Russia, and the country may even fall apart.
yes he is very unpopular, especially for that Crimea land grab, LOL, go straight back to Zio-troll school, and DO NOT collect $200
To save you the trouble. I'm a Zionist through and through. By blood, religion, and world view. I spend days plotting world domination and eating children.
Now, wrt to Putin's popularity over the land grab:
- Germans were extatic when Hitler annexed Austria. Did that help them?
- Soviet party enjoyed over 90% support of its people. Did that save the country?
- Read some Russian-language sources over what's going on with people who speak against Putin, Crimea, and Ukrainian invasion.
You Westerners didn't learn much from the 20th century history, did you?
Keep on soaking up the propaganda at MPNET. You are STRONK.
Another wimpy pawn move from the maintain the status quo class. Russia and China are moving away from SWIFT already so "stealing their thunder" is a good move? At first glance, the little, "coup" in Ukraine looks like a strong move but all it did was capitalize on some balkanization that already existed between Russians and Ukranians. Long term none of these moves will have any bearing on the outcome when endgame time comes.
By just making these statements the UK had damaged the allies. This is the second time the SWIFT system has been turned into a serious political weapon. Now that even Russia can be so attacked many other countries will see the danger inherent in the allies control of SWIFT. Those countries will in some way support an alternative system.
Short term this might be very difficult for Russia. The fact that Russia is in the position shows that Putin is not the master chess player some claim he is. The danger has always been obvious.
The UK just pushed China's buttons without meaning to. Fence sitters may get nervous and secretly make plans for how to react if also shut out in the future. This also drives the fence sitters and China toward Russia, I mean, would you trust the US not to pillage your country at some point down the road? China has to know they are on the list.
It's just an economic sanction, lots of countries have been kicked off SWIFT e.g. Iran
Yeah and that one worked out so nicely didn't it. /s
Action reaction. Not going unnoticed either and only serves to diminish SWIFT's importance.
Stumpy makes an excellent point. Why would any Russian [or any other foreigner] feel his property, money, etc are 'safe' if Barry and Cameron expropiate them or threaten to do so. I bet the Chinese billionaires are thinking twice about those McMansions in Cali that can be 'expropriated' in a split second when Barry [or Boner, or Graham, or McKrain, etc] has a lover's quarrel with the PRC.
They wouldn't dare fuck with China here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuK6n2Lkza0
SWIFT(or at least the European End Back-ended in CHE) has been compromised by the NSA. A few years back, the European Branch decided to share their Data for the purpose of "Terrorist Hunting".
Apparently, TEAM_USA acted like a bunch of thugs - taking everything and sharing nothing (from the "results" of their findings).
Again, a Pump-and-Dump situation done by USA, with Europe's SWIFT Team and Govts being the One-Night Tramps promised secure futures in partnership. They've been "Fracking the EU" throughly.
It's no wonder why European Banks are turning away USA Account holders there.
Someone's going to come up with an alternative to SWIFT. RUS and CHN most likely will - JUST for their own sakes.
It's a matter of time. Nothing to worry about.
Amen Brotha
Banker left Speechless by Irish Journalist!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCHu1kRT6hU
[in the voice of Mr. Smith of The Matrix] Mr. Cameron...
The sign of a good politician is to embrace the inevitable, and even though he has opposed it in the past, to now make it his own.
Do you hear that whistle sound of the Eurasian Express? Well, that is the sound of Inevitability, Mr. Cameron. Get ON it or get run over BY it.
I can't wait to see how this blows up in their faces. That being their track record. Bunch of cupid stunts.
winston churchill, tony blair, and david cameron, three lapdogs from a anachronistic failed?state v. three symbiotic crippled alpha junk-yard dogs, fdr/truman, bush #41 & #42... and, Mr. et`tu Brute,'biden [his tyme]/obie1-- this sisyphus duopoly demise-ificator... this xenophobic's entropy statue of a liberty... sooted`black?'
"winston churchill, tony blair, and david cameron,"
Whoever puts those names in the same sentence is, obviously, an ignorant
We have a Winston Churchill on ZH, and I consider him a Kindred Spirit.
Too bad we can't say the same for a Tony Blair or David Cameron. Unless someone assumes their Persona/Avatar and gives us a Born-Again Blair, so to speak. ;-)
winston churchill was a plagarizing alcoholic, a coward and a lap dog of the sassoon and rothschild's families. his family carried their shitpot's and spittune's, all the while being mercenaries under the british... asswipe, incestuous crown. bunch of fucking slimey limeys.
churchill was a POS!!!
actually, the whole of england is a shit-hole!
proud to be american but a independent nationalist american... yes nationalist...
"winston churchill was a plagarizing alcoholic, a coward and..."
He could have been a lot of things,
but he was not a coward.
Learn your History before posting.
+100.
On the subject of history.......
If you have any positive thoughts regarding W. S. C. you should read 'Churchill's War' by David Irving.
Puts a lot of pieces of the puzzle that is 20th Century history into place.
Old W. S. C. knew when to be somewhere other than London due to 'Ultra' - the cracking of the Enigma code, which he kept very tightly controlled, for his own personal and political ends.
He talked the talk - his one great skill.
Maybe Mr. Hannay is a propagandist (as was the original ficticios character)
It is W S-C btw. His name was Spencer-Churchill as he was a Spencer not a Churchill. His father hyphenated the name, the son dropped the hyphen. Typical Spencer behaviour, self-promoters.
He was the Finance Minister who declared in 1925 No War For 10 Years and made it a rolling 10 Years so he could cut defence spending to pay Debt to the US for the First War. He was out of office by 1929 and it was Chamberlain as Finance Minister who had to reverse these Defence Cuts from 1935 onwards.
Churchill sold everything to FDR even the last gold reserves in 1940 and private company investments in the USA. He loved France and loathed Germany which is why deGaulle survived Us attempyts at assassination
He was also constantly short of money and was pretty much bought by Zionists, which helped hugely in the formation of that wonderful concept known as Israel.
There is a deep reservoir of true history that remains. Find it, preserve it. Tell it. The corrupt bastards do not COMPLETELY control education. It is going to rock our world, who knew always, when the bastards again say they knew it all along.
Cool angles on my letters?!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7978285/Winston-Churchi...
There were many rumors of other negotiations between Churchill and Mussolini. It is known that many British elite supported Hitler. That is the reason Hess flew to GB. He wanted to follow up on those opportunities.
Mussolini and Churchill go back to the Great War.
http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/mussolini.htm
The US history and America are shit too. They let the Red Shield kill off 1.1 million Americans for their civil war and they also ran the banks and slave trade.
You have cowards who will not stand up for The Constitution. You have scum who voted for Obama twice and I bet more than few post here. So the USA is just as bad. Stop being a sheep and watch TV and Hollywood's shit.
That would be the fastest growing economy in the G7 you're talking about?
Now prostitution is in the GDP figures it should show boundless growth
We are so far away from the Britain who gave us Liberalism,
from the Britain of sounding names; Peel, Palmerston, Gladstone, Salisbury...
from the Britain of proud Empire, of proud Navy,
from the Britain who gave the world most of what it has of best
We have a plastic toff called Cameron, bless him for being so obvious
emma peel! salisbury steak!
I need more silver this holiday weekend bitchezzz!
Cameron swinging.
Now there's an image to make a chap smile.
The last thing I want is David Cameron interrupting my quality redtube viewing time.
ZH: "But while collecting credit card data was to be expected, what is even worse is that the NSA has also secretly planted itself in the nexus of the entire global USD-intermediated financial transactions system courtesy of SWIFT."
As I recall from Jim Rickard's book "The Future of Money", the Fed and Wall St use the NSA for all kinds of Early Warning and Forensics in Front-Running Longs and Short (on events before they break the news). They also use advanced pattern recognition techniques in SigIntel plus CIA's HumanIntel to ID specific players who might be hiding in the noise of all the activity.
The BRICS & Friends cannot afford this kind of scrutiny and invasion of privacy, of course. They have NO choice, but to use the cover of Current Events to exit (as smoothly as possible) from SWIFT, before they get Swift-Boated.
In the worldview of Talmudians: Do unto others before they do unto you.
SWIFT is currency agnostic why are people associating it with USD
because the USA has weaponized SWIFT.
This is too stupid for words. I simply cannot understand why an enemy is made out of Russia over that corrupt backwater Ukraine. Of course I realize that certain interest groups exist that want this to happen and have made it happen - but it is still the worst possible policy vis-a-vis Russia. More proof that our political leadership consists of nothing but a bunch of power-drunk psychopaths.
My experience in negotiations and difficult situations - usually the party that makes one threat after another is the weaker one and the more they do it you lay back and track their escalation - for a major counter and not waste energy on the small stuff
Cameron and Obama and crew(s) are light so far - they never had follow up plan post Coup based on various critical paths
Knuckle analysis is all short term - Chinese think 1,000 years and Russia a long time as well why would they be plused on short term cash flow ploy?
Cameron is frenzied - frustration or a time fuse?
“Chinese think 1,000 years”
All things consider, which nationality has gained the most over the last 1,000 years?
yeahh, with out the help of the Western elite to rebuild and reindustrialize the chinese would still be dressed in pajamas and reading little red books..oh and lots of heroin addicts before the Communist party..must be where that heroin fuled pipe dream of 1000 years strategy came from
Canada
I have three precious things, which I hold fast and prize.
The first is gentleness; the second is frugality; the third is humility, which keeps me from putting myself before others. Be gentle, and you can be bold; be frugal, and you can be liberal; avoid putting yourself before others, and you can become a leader among men.
But in the present day men cast off gentleness, and are all for being bold; they spurn frugality, and retain only extravagance; they discard humility, and aim only at being first.
Therefore they shall surely perish.
Gentleness brings victory to him who attacks, and safety to him who defends. Those whom Heaven would save, it fences round with gentleness.
– Lao Tzu
I bet Merkel is having kittens over this. Russia has all the resources it needs to survive while Europe teeters on the edge of the abyss.
Cameron is scared shitless. He has more extremist Muzzies living there then almost any other non-Muslim nation and seeing how many of them sign up for ISIS, they ain't happen. He needs a [distracting] war badly.
"and seeing how many of them sign up for ISIS"
The Covert Origins of ISIS (watch before YouTube removes it)
You know, between the goddamn USA and Britain, why don't they just launch their nukes already and quit beating around the bush. Just destroy this whole goddamn ball. They sure seem hellbent on that goal. FFS
When the elites start building space ships you know it will be getting close. I think I'll brush up on my space butler training.
Who's side is Cameron on?
Kicking Iran out of SWIFT really got this ball rolling in the first place.
Now all countries that want to trade with Russia will have to join whatever new payment system Russia sets up....smooth move Cams.
Western leaders are the stupidest people on earth.
The BRICS have already started setting up an alternative to the IMF, to the Western controlled Internet backbone, and to the dominance of the dollar. These threats against Russia are a proxy for threats against the BRICS to get back in line for scraps from the Western dominated table.
But that time is over. With every attempt to coerce the BRICS to get back in line the BRICS will respond by accelerating the development of alternate structures.
The West is digging its hole to bury itself.
This isn't by accident or incompetence; this is by design.
You know they ain't gonna kick Vladdy-Poot outta SWIFT.
The euros know the Britts are the black sheep of Europe, just trying to throw them all under the bus.
This Cameron must actually be the b-buddy of Canada's Harper.
But just the same, Russia-China will now accelerate their moves out of the dollar system so that they cannot be held hostage to it.
Sanctions smanctions!
Insanity is trying the same dumb shit over and over again and expecting results different than ever before.
The whole lot of them are sharing a stinking brain, and today it's Cameron's turn with it.
ISIS has won. Obama conquered the United States of America.
On other sites in particular the rant is Obama is muslim and working for them. Besides being silly, if our National Security State ever had a wiff of an idea that he was anything but their sock puppet, Obama would be done faster than you could say JFK.
With that said, perhaps he is the patsy.
Bath House is a muslim, he is destroying America, he has powerful allies who are protecting him.
He was bought by the PTB. They did not see the Agenda he hid from them.
It's going to get interesting.
Has it occured to all you rabidly "Anti-British" commentators, that owing to American "involvement" in policy decisions dating back to the Thatcher era and beyond, maybe Mr Cameron is TOLD what to say by OTHERS.
The same OTHERS as are telling YOUR "President" What to say . . . .
Parrotile
I'm sure it has occurred to many..we don't particularly like it either....
As an Australian who worked in the very excellent UK NHS for a number of years, I can assure you that "Government Policy" over there is set without much regard for the intersts of the people, no matter which "Party" is elected. A classic example of this was the similarity between Thatcherism (divide-and-conquer), and "New Labour" under Blair - same idea, same policies, and unfortunately, same outcome.
As for the rabid "Anti-British" mindset in the USA in particular, I'm at a loss as to why this is the case. Britain has supported the US in all the recent campaigns, often with significant asset losses due to "Friendly Fire" - on clearly marked assets too (e.g. APCs with a big Union flag on the top!).
Were you joking about NHS as in satire or are you bloddy stupid? Unionized NHS hospitals in many areas have about the same conditions as field hospitals during the Crimiean War.
The stupid French, English and Sardinians backed the muslim turks in that one like idiots.
The good news about the NHS is muslims get new separate clinics because they demand them. Animal Farm - some people (who rape English children) are more equal than others. note - I don't hate muslims - just the ones in Europe, USA, Oz, NZ who cause trouble.
Love the Brits, hate their politics.
Without a doubt!
I do believe the world will be a better place when the dollar exits as the reserve.
The current arrangement simply allows too much unearned power to be placed in the hands of the US government. It allows them to rule without even having to tax and this allows them to rule without consent.
This is retaliation for only selling oil in Yuan and Rubles.
I think that the Russian oligarchs will pull all their money out of London very SWIFT.
Lol... how about every country in the world, except the UK, US ... and maybe Germany & Israel, exit SWIFT and form their own money trading system. People have to be getting very tired of the US, Brits, Germany, and Israel threatening and dictating terms to them.
It could be the great start of a revolution in money systems not dependent on zionist bankers.
Make Europe pay for their oil and gas in GOLD!!
Is this the "heated debates" at the UN Putin was talking about yesterday? Lol...
Germany is the lynchpin. They will have to tip toe but they will be slowly tip toeing away from evil Obama Amerika.
RE: "much less well monitored and measured financial channels" = B.... i.....t...
Now that the US has offshored its industrial base and is totally dependent upon imported goods, the next logical thing to is tell China and Russia to f*ck off, in order for them to stop accepting the dollar in payment. Likewise, all the European nations dependent upon Russian gas and oil should do their best to piss off Russia. Then start World War III.
There you have it, the US-UK foreign policy in a nutshell.
"I will fundamentally Change America."
--Abu Hussein Lesiure Suit.
Just in the same way the Russian Communist Party relativized itself with glasnost, the US/EU just fucked themselves by now compelling Russia and China to build-out their own payment system within the next 6 months.
In the same way the Petrodollar is relativized, so now the dollar itself goes down the tubes.
When you see George Clooney flashing his iridium UnionPay card on the red carpet you will know there is no going back.
Now wait for Visa and Mastercard to disappear from Russian and Chinese markets.
The alternative payment system already exists. It needs a different exchange rate to be viable. It also needs to be enhanced to allow truly private transactions. But both of these things are easy to do.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2eff0b/bitcoin_swift_and_the_br...
The Russians have very competent programmers and technical people. The Chinese are no slouches either. They will just build out Union Pay. Hopefully it hurts scum like Visa, Master Card and Capital One. Capitol One's spokemen are that racist Samuel L. Jackson and that fat idiot Alec Baldwin.
Obama was placed in power to destroy America.
With the bare faced lies and propaganda spewing relentlessly out of Washington, Westminster, the EU and NATO these days regarding Russia, one can only conclude that the West has a slow-burn Death Wish, has gone completely mad or has a serious intent of stoking up WWIII.
I am already amazed at how restrained Putin has been given he's faced with endless abuse from Western "leaders". Whether he'll take lying down the (empty suit) Cameron's latest threat of disconnection from SWIFT remains to be seen. Given that the sanctions and ongoing threats are not based upon any evidence of Putin doing anything and which appear to be fabricated, he'd be a fool to.
Meanwhile, NATO claims it has images of Russian military convoys inside East Ukie. No evidence produced. Russia claims they are images taken from video games.
Its because Putin is a 'somebody'. In a cynical age people forget there are genuine great leaders. We had them in the past and IMHO of the current leaders, the Wests are dickheads while Putin is special. God save the West from our turd leaders and puppeteers.
Yeah. The Gay World of Warfare by Barry.
I thought everyone knew that.
Putin the martial artist is very wily - he is using his opponents own energy against them. And he is biding his time. Patience is something the West seem to lack. Morons.
Chess grandmaster meets hobby checker player, aye ?
vlad wouldn't let ac/dc sniff his jock.
I confess, I didn't even read the post- apologies. This whole ordeal is reminding me of this exchange;
March Hare; Relax! Have a glass of wine
Alice looks around and replies; But I don't see any wine.
March Hare; There is no wine.
Today the three stooges (Obama, Kerry,Hagel) say be afraid, very afraid! A terrorist act by ISIS is imminent!
Alice looks around and says; But I don't see any terrorist threat.
The three stooges; There is no terrorist threat, we (actually, our bosses) haven't finished up the final plans yet!
As for Russia, the west proclaims Russia has invaded Ukraine!.... there is no wine.
Future generations will look back to these times and wonder why the rest of the world took so long trying to stop appeasing the Anglo-American financial/military empire.
They will be too busy survivng for retrospective
Cameron is nothing but a Zionist stooge.