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Putin Says Everything U.S. Touches Turns Out Like Libya Or Iraq
Having been quiet for a few days, comfortable sitting back and watching NATO, Europe, and the US escalate each other's talking points to a frenzy of populist revolt, Russia's Vladimir Putin has come out swinging this morning:
- *PUTIN: NO MATTER WHAT U.S. DOES, IT TURNS OUT LIKE LIBYA, IRAQ
- *PUTIN SAYS UN CAN'T BE FOREIGN POLICY TOOL FOR U.S., ALLIES
- *PUTIN: EUROPEAN LEADERS FAR FROM SHOWING INDEPENDENT THINKING
- *PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA IS COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T FEAR ANYTHING
In addition to discussions of The Bolsheviks, agreeing Stalin was a tyrant, and slamming liberal economic models for creating crises, Putin notes his approval rating is high because "he is confident he's right."
Some more fun soundbites:
- *PUTIN SAYS BOLSHEVIKS BETRAYED NATIONAL INTERESTS IN WWI
- *PUTIN SAYS UNFORTUNATELY SUCH PEOPLE IN RUSSIA TODAY
- *PUTIN SAYS LIBERAL ECONOMIC MODEL LEADS TO BUILDUP OF CRISES
- *PUTIN SAYS NOBODY DENIES STALIN WAS A TYRANT
- *PUTIN SAYS LEADERS WIN SUPPORT BY BEING CONFIDENT THEY'RE RIGHT
- *PUTIN: FIGHTS AT UN SOMETIMES FIERCER THAN DURING COLD WAR
- *PUTIN SAYS UNITED NATIONS NOT ALWAYS EFFECTIVE
And perhaps of most note... just as Obama pronounced yesterday that US would not engage militarily:
- *PUTIN: RUSSIA FAR AWAY FROM BEING SUCKED IN GLOBAL CONFLICT
But...
- *PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA IS NUCLEAR POWER, STRENGTHENING CAPABILITIES
- *PUTIN: RUSSIA STRENGTHENS ARSENAL TO FEEL SAFE, NOT THREATEN
- *PUTIN: DON'T THINK ANYONE SEEKS LARGE-SCALE CONFLICT W/ RUSSIA
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So - just like the Cold War - military build-up on either side and constant escalation in tensions...
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Putin really is starting to sound like Hitler. Hitler was absolutely convinced Germany should have won WW1. He couldn't accept the fact that Germany was crumbling. They were literally pulling lead pipes out of the ground to make bullets, and people were starving. Now Putin is saying bolsheviks were against imperial Russia's national interests? Russians were starving. Rising up and murdering the tsar was 100% morally justified. The interests of the people should be the primary interests of the country.
Oh yes, the jew view.
Indiana - yes and no. More like the Zionist view. Medved might be Jewish and Roman Abromovich definitely is. Both identify as Russians. Putin appointed Abromovich to be the govenor of Siberia. He got great reviews.
Your argument doesn't make sense. Are you saying Russia is collapsing?
As for the Bolsheviks, I think it's hard to argue they were in Russia's best interests. Killing the tsar and his family was probably the right thing to do, but the Bolsheviks didn't exactly leave it at that, did they.
And your argument fails under Godwin's Law.
Dear Spungo,
You suggest Russia is crumbling but see this letter letter (or manifesto) recently published by a Ukrainian and picked up by the Vineyard Saker. He sees Russia as rising -- but read what he says. It's an alternative view and an absolutely remarkable statement:
"Manifest" by Andrey Avramenko, Kharkov I envy the Russians, I envy these "katsaps" and "the Moskals"!
I envy their Olympics and their army. I have many friends and relatives in Russia. I see how they change and grow. They believe their President. They believe in their army. They are proud of their great history, achievements and victories.
It was once our common history ... victories and achievements. Not so long ago. They have found their ground. They don’t care about the West we worship. They move on and grow, despite of what we are told on our TVs and various social forums. I know that it’s us who are losing, and not them. We have become weaker, and they have gotten stronger.
No matter how loud we keep shouting "Glory to Ukraine!" we can’t stop it.
Not so long ago we were gloating when they had Chechnya.
Today the Chechens are no less Russian than the Russians themselves. They are ready to fight for their revived and great country, of which they are a part. Today we are the one to be frightened with the Chechen battalions. How did this happen???
They were killing each other just yesterday. But the reason is simple: the Chechens were able to remember that they were Russian, and they were part of the great Country and the Great People.
We gloat when they have terrorist attacks and disasters.
However, they overcome them over and over again and become stronger! Even though the whole world is against them!
They fall and rise again. Stand and grin. And just spit blood through their teeth.
We are screaming that they are slaves. That they will soon fall apart, the oil will fall, NATO will attack, and they will be struck down with another punishment. But they are us! We spit on our own reflection. On ourselves.
We must remember that we are a whole. And once we begin to understand and realize it, only then will come the feeling that once our ancestors had. A sense of inner strength, hope, faith, and pride that we are also the Russians.
It doesn’t matter who our ancestors were: Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, Buryats, or Uzbeks. It doesn’t matter who we are by faith: Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims or Jews. This is not important. What’s important is that we are Russians! That we're a part of the Great people and the Great country.
Yes, our Great Country and our Great People still have a lot of problems. But if we remember that we are Russians, we will change everything forever! Everybody is afraid of that.
They are afraid that we will remember and will be together again.
That’s why they are building spider webs of lies and deceits. This lie and hatred is being maintained by us and in Russia.
They do not allow us to wake up. And if we do not remember who we are, you will never wake up.
About the situation, occupation and others.
Who shouts the loudest that we need to protect "our" independence, unity and freedom? The same officials, oligarchs and parliamentarians. They are terrified that they will have to answer for everything that has happened to our Motherland over the years.
Maybe this is not the occupation? Perhaps, this is the liberation? And our people came, when we lost all our hope, when we almost gave up.
Perhaps, we need to stand together and destroy all these lying politicians, oligarchs, mayors and officials, who are foaming at their mouths and screaming that we need to go and die! To die for their villas, yachts and castles, for their bank accounts, for their freedom to rob us, and for freedom from answering for their actions.
I understand that this Manifesto will be cut out from the web. There will be thousands of angry comments, screams that I'm a traitor, that I was sold out to Putin, that I am katsap and Moskal. I don't care. I know that the truth is with me.
I am a patriot of Ukraine, a true patriot, and now the fate of my people and my Ukraine is being decided.
Either we remember who we are, or we will perish.
I love my Ukrainian people, our ancestors and our culture.
I'm Ukrainian, but more than that I am Russian!
Andrey Avramenko, Kharkov
"Perhaps, we need to stand together and destroy all these lying politicians, oligarchs, mayors and officials, who are foaming at their mouths and screaming that we need to go and die! To die for their villas, yachts and castles, for their bank accounts, for their freedom to rob us, and for freedom from answering for their actions."
Perhaps the world needs to do this as well.
Stupid cunt. Another cretin who had his brains smashed to shit as a baby.
And just who do you think is the current Tsar,
The fucking egiotistical faggot commie Kenyan monkey in the Whitehouse, dickhead.
You want Hitler, there it is, in a fucking black monkey faggot.
Sploogy, couldn't find another troll to give you an up arrow? Go ahead and give yourself one.
more commies in 3-4 sq blocks of D.C. than in all of Russia/China combined.
If you're counting coffe shops near Universities in D.C., then maybe. If you're talking about the halls of US government, there hasn't been a Commie there since maybe Alger Hiss, and that's far from certain.
These people are Fascists, not Communists. No Communist in the history of Ever would divert the entire economic energy of the nation to prop up the banks.
More jews in the USA than Israel. And you wonder why presidents who don't serve them are assassinated, convenient child porn is found, shit blows up, shit burns and we have race riots. Thank them for the open borders, the NEA, the NAACP, the war of 1812, the Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the never ending MENA wars, the disparity of wealth, the police state and the nukes.
Germans, Russians. The Nordics are stirring.
....he's got a point there. Can't argue with that.
Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhuga_shvili, (vel Stalin)
Dzhuga_shvili means son(shvili ) of a jew(Dzhuga) in Georgian.
Stalin married into Kagan family (in Khazar King), you know that Kagan family, Victoria Nuland (fuck the EU) is married with.
Bolshevics, 95% of them had US passports. There were no etnic Russians in Bolshevics management board.
I recomend you watch: "In the Shadow of Hermes" by Jüri Lina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
Katyn, Irak, Afganistan, Syria is a ritual murder, like it was 9/11, or murdering innocent Russian Tsar family. Few hundered mentally ill psychopats would like to destroy this world. They are programmed for Armaggedon. Time to stop them. Time for vendetta. Tens of millions died because of this scam. Maybe, many more millions will die but we will get them one day. Belive me, we will get them. Not us, it will be our sons.
Yes, precisely. These cloaked aliens, masquerading now as Americans, set to destroy the world for their profit. F'em and their fake narrative and fake victimhood. They get whatever they deserve.
I wonder how many trolls are employed to “correct” our thinking. Judging from some of the comments, I'd say at least two are trying to peddle their Master's propaganda through various aliases.
I think the last competent US leader on Putin's level would be Eisenhower. He tried to warn us, but “we the sheeple” did not understand how important his message about the military-security-industrial complex was to their children and great-grandchildren.
Bottom line is that the US is operated by idiots who believe they are geniuses, patting themselves on the back every time they redefine a statistical metric to ignore a problem instead of addressing the root cause.
The blowback from decades of international meddling, murder, and mayhem is just getting started. We made ourselves global enemy #1, now we have to live with the consequences.
The zero hedge comment section: where the Russian lover shills come to jerk each other off on Russia propoganda.
Its a different arm of the same cabal you muppets. You so easily forgot how GREAT all the old soviet states are doing economically.
Free Pussy Riot so they can Occupy the White House!
Man I'm late! Who has the lube?
You stupid fucking cunt.
Are you really that fucking stupid or did someone beat your brains out with a lead pipe when you were a fucking baby.
Of all the fucking moronic rretarded comments on here from fuck wits like you this taks the biscuit for being the dumbest fucking comment this year.
Go back to sucking your mothers tit you fucking freak
Wow. somebody forgot to take their meds today. Can you have a well formed opinion? So you don't like my comment, downvote and move on.
Let me apologize for the zh commenter losing his temper with you footstool. Trolls have to earn a living too. And thank for reminding me to downarrow you, I almost forgot while skimming past your insignificant nonesense.
For those naive idiots who are afraid that your anti establish god is playing the same game as the global cabal, I have some very bad news for you. I have been reading the comments here for a long time. Good news I did your homework for you today!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/14/15-Aug-14-World-View-Russi...
http://www.interpretermag.com/14302/
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/article3891720.ece
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154706/posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/274oup/attack_of_the_russian_...
Are they really doing THAT great? Did you read the news where Poland had to confiscate pentions to balance their books? Dont have the link sorry. Besaides those old soviaet staes are small countries they better be doign well. But if you go down south, Bulgaria, Roumania are not doing so hot.
coming soon to america, just papered over for the time being here by more Federal paper....
No, i didnt know that in poland? I am not surprised. I know Poland had to accept major league expensive public infrascturtue projects for consideration into the EU. Poland is being forced to build a modern rail network, instead of air network which makes more sense for their geography. The really scary thing is that the westeren cabal lets these countries to enter the eu/nato, savage them with insane debt, then call on them fight their self created wars. Ukraines gold being confisicated the crazy loan deal from the IMF. The west and east are savaging the the old satiellate states! Moreover the chinese have been buying out the "-iztans" countires stealing gas from gazprom and pissing Russia off. The newest gas deals between the two are meant to stop that from happening and appease the chinese.
duplicate.
Apology from Netherlands :
http://www.nieuws.nl/algemeen/20140814/Nederlandse-professor-zegt-sorry-...
Just before the Sochi Olympics Barry and his crew were busting Putin's balls for being anti-gay because of Russia's new law protecting children from all media / propaganda promoting the gay lifestyle. I have to laud President Putin for having the balls to stand up against this shit and for standing up for traditional families, children and the Christian Faith. Too bad our leaders in the US are too weak and spineless to do the same.
Mike -- Great comment.
exactly, the anti Putin propaganda was running at full speed, gthey were busting his balls for the gays(because they nothing else) while preparing Ukraine for a fall. Putin should have knonw something was up and not let Ukraine fall into their hands AT ANY COST! So he isn't relly as great chess player as a lot of people are presenting him to be.
Oh, is the game over? There're plenty of pieces left on the board.
If Putin advised Viktor Yanukovych badly -- and he did -- at least he showed the world, whether they want to believe it or not, that he and Yanukovych did not embrace the Army and violence to put down the mob in the Maidan.
While the leaders of Europe, Rasmussen, Barasso, Ashton, Cameron, Hollande, Rutte, and all the other phony little leaders took to the Ukrainian neo-Nazis as if their philosophy hadn't invaded them 75 years ago.
We know now that sewer scum rules Europe today and if they decide in their selfrghtousness to take the world down, good riddance.
Of course, what Barry and his handmaidens were doing was punishing Putin for keeping Snowden, by threatening a low turn out at Sochi.
If Putin had held a Gay Olympics at Sochi the media would have been pissed off too...whenever Russia hosts anything the USA boycotts but if China drives tanks over students the US is so forgiving and offers them MFN status and a chance to finance presidential candidates and access US defence secrets
We exported $5,900,000,000 to Russia in the first half of 2014. We exported $58,666,000,000 to China.
Obviously China is a preferred customer.
During the same period we imported almost as many illegal Chinese aliens as illegal Mexicans. China is playing well.
Putin didn't want to reference Afghanistan because it would immediately bring Russian reminders of their own time in Afghanistan.
The graveyard of empires.
Russia learned it all from Afghanista. The USA is still trying to learn the lesson No 1. Difficult stuff - we have so far destroyed less than a dozen well to do countries. No worry, as always, at the end we will learn it - but not yet. We have at least 150 more countries where to experiment. With this numebr it is most likely we run out of the wrong solutions sooner than countries and stumble to the last - the right one - the same the Russians found in Afghanistan!
The winner wins only due to readiness to outviolence the adversary.
Putin is outviolencing USA and EU, so Putin is winning.
It is that simple.
Putin's gotta bunch of body choppin and burning to get done to beat the Nazis.
I understand that the concept of moral authority is something your brain cannot conceive of or process.
USA has moral authority to rule the world. PERIOD.
It has to pay to uphold that right by sending its youth to die......repeatedly.....in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya..........US power requires human sacrifice
Absolutely correct. No objections, none whatsoever.
It is up to americans whether they want to maintain or dump the current business model.
If it is dumped, world goes into chaos, USA standard of living will drop by a minimum of 50%, hence 2nd american revolution.
USA has no choice, but to continue to rule by use of force in order to maintain world trade, which leads to human sacrifice.
TOTALITARIANISM
Go away you fucking fear monger.
“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.” - George Orwell
Or better yet, go pick up a gun, strap on a helmet, and go fight the Russians yourself if you’re so afraid of them and what they might do. Just don’t try to convince us to fight your psychopathic battles for you any more, or to spend our money supporting others willing to do it. Go do it yourself you fucking chickenshit coward.
And by the way, not Libya.
Obama withdrew after few days because he distrusted the generals.
Yeah, obama and Hillary just watched while the embassy was assaulted. It wasn't like they actually killed the ambassador and some Navy Seals....oh wait.......
Grimaldus
Does this rubbish pay well?
It reached a point in Nazi Germany where one had to join the 'party' to feed their family....
Sorry ekm1 but this comment is simply inane. I could give you chapter and verse on US violence around the world since the end of the Cold War, but I think you know the score. It's also worth keeping in mind that our unconstiutional wars in Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now in Ukraine all had one thing in common -- all of these countries werer friends and allies of Moscow when we got to work on them. Washington has had Moscow in its cross hairs since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Moscow is resisting (as it has every right to do.) Hence, V. V. Putin's telling comment: "We Russians will not be cannon fodder for the New World Order."
USA has made sure goods and energy flow world wide.
Putin is making sure that they do not.
Quite of a difference.
I do not disagree as far as events. What matters is why USA uses violence and why Putin uses violence.
USA violence has led to prosperity via world trade expansion. Putin violence is leading to collapse of world trade
The US supplies NO energy to Europe. It raped BP and now tries to block BP in Rosneft. The Us muscled in on the Anglo-Iranian Oil company in Iran 1953; it took over British influence in Saudi Arabia when FDR returned from Yalta and met secretly with Ibn Saud.
The US wants European nations as satellites and already has the British Army as a US Foreign Legion ready to tag along when called. Britain is attuned to the dog whistle and comes running
US supplies energy to the world via control of Middle East oil flow due to the deal with Saudis
US steals energy from the world via control of the world's reserve currency.
Spoken like a true psychopath... and a really crazy, mixed up, fucked up, dangerous one at that. I'll translate: "Our killing and maiming is good for business. Theirs isn't." Let me guess...
YES!
"In their paper, "Construct Validity of Psychopathy in a Community Sample... Salekin, Trobst, and Krioukova write "Psychopathy as originally conceived by Cleckley (1941) is not limited to engagement in illegal activities, but rather encompasses such personality characteristics as manipulativeness, insincerity, egocentricity , and lack of guilt - characteristics clearly present in criminals but also in spouses, parents, bosses, attorneys and politicians, and CEOs, to name but a few. (bursten. 1973; Stewart, 1991)...As such. psychopathy may be characterized...as involving a tendency towards dominance and coldness. Wiggens (1995) in summarizing numerous previous findings..indicates such persons are prone to anger and irritation and are willing to exploit others. They are arrogant, manipulative, cynical, exhibitionistic, sensation-seeking, Machiavellian, vindictive and out for their own gain. With respect to their patterns of social exchange (Foa & Foa, 1974), they attribute love and status to themselves, seeing themselves as highly worthy and important, but prescribe neither love nor status to others, seeing them as unworthy and insignificant. " Page 89, Political Ponerology, footnote
It is quite obvious to me that the US is well ahead on violence and Russia is well ahead on brains.
If that were true, then Putin would be losing right now, not winning
The term is "outsmarting".
Not only Putin say that: most of the people in the world does say it. It's time for the US stop fucking around.
How's that going to happen (us stop fucking around) unless they luck out on a strong leader or the population's brain grows to proportionatly match the size of their ass.
Maybe the PTB thought they were gonna get some thug life out of their front boy.
They ended up with a Chihuahua in Chief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw
Putin has brain cancer while Obama knows it and is till letting this happen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&list=RDdQw4w9WgXcQ#t=0
Invocation... kind of stuff used by our behind the scenes satanic masters
Sobering to see a man from another nation speak with clarity and purpose, while the supposed leaders of the U.S. issue mealy-mouthed nonsense and do 'airstrikes', much the same way as Billy Jeff did in Bosnia while he was diddling Monica with a Havana...
Everything Obama touchs goes up in flames...Hate to say it, but Putin is right...
He's just the patsy. You don't see any of the rest of the government doing anything in opposition to the Hood Ornament, do you?
...or Afghanistan?
Hahahaha...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...hahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahaha...hahahahahahahahahahaha....
Putin should know. He's in on it.
DAMN YOU PUTIN! I want to hate you so bad but you keep making true statements.
Fuck, this forum looks like a KGB propaganda discussion. I would really like to see americans under communists. They will sure be easily to get to comply to *any* official KGB directive and accept any fucking moron to dictate their lives, as long as there is an enemy this KGB fights against (America, Obama in this case).
Wake up people, this fucking polite, armed, green men already invaded and destroyed Cecenia, Georgia and now Ukraine. There are still frozen conflicts in Nagorno-Karabach, Osetia, Abhazia, Transnistria. In the Baltic Republics there is an important Russian community and a fragile equilibrium because of Russia imperialism. Finland, Poland and other current or *future* Russian neighbours are starting to be vary of the renewed aggressivenes of Russia. The Russian interests are well represented in ex-Soviet block countries and economically the Russian influence is huge.
If you think that US is bad compared to Russia, you know nothing of what Russian occupation means. You need to travel to a city outside Moscow (or even Moscow and try to say something that is not in line with the Party line). The current Russia is an empire based on pillaging other countries and exploiting its own serfs.
RazvanM
No one (except in your delusions) is advocating Russian occupation of the US.
Nor does anyone want to live under a totalitarian government like the old Soviet Union.
That is why the current US government policies (Pentagon global domination, NSA spying, torture, assassinations, habeas corpus denial, TBTF corruption, militarized police, "Patriot" laws, etc)
should be OPPOSED and changed.
Because the current US path is headed exactly toward totalitarian rule.
The US is well on its way to all these things you describe....
"Wake up people, this fucking polite, armed, green men already invaded and destroyed Cecenia, Georgia and now Ukraine. There are still frozen conflicts in Nagorno-Karabach, Osetia, Abhazia, Transnistria."
Huh?
Georgia, under its Jewish dual citizen Israeli defense minister, decided to renew an assault on South Ossetia, which for whatever reasons, largely having to do with ethnicity and language, did not want to be part of Georgia - increasingly colonized by the NATO and Israel.
So Georgia killed 16 Russian peacekeepers, and invaded South Ossetia in force.
Then the US cried foul when Russia decided to smack Georgia back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22QbvgfBxY
Abkhazia did not become a blood bath only *because* of the threat that Russia would destroy any invading Georgian force.
Russia has had little or even nothing to do with the other conflicts you list.
If you think America is so great, you should have seen it before the changes rammed through after the new pearl harbor of 9/11.
I suppose you blame Russia for that as well, right?
Sounds like psychological PROJECTION... mastered by the CIA/DIA
"Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. "
Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
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USA is ALREADY under Communism. But in USA it's called Corporitism, where Corporations rule everyone and everything. As for imperealism, all you need to do is look at what USA does. Shell we list them wars USA has started:
So USA can bomb or invade and occupy or harass ANY country in the world they want to but Russia cannot place its military where they want to WITHIN their own borders.
it's NOT Russia but USA who attacked Iraq in 1990.
It's NOT Russia but USA who bombed Iraq during the 1990s.
Its' NOT Russia but USA who lied Iraq had imaginary "weapons of mass distraction" during 2001-2003.
It's NOT Russia but USA who attacked and occupied Iraq in 20013.
It's NOT Russia but USA who attacked and occupied Afghanistan in 2001
It's NOT Russia but USA who has attacked and bombed Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Lybia, Sudan, etc, etc,
Indeed, Facts are stupid things like Ronnie said.
Putin knows he has a problem with the Bolshevik Jews operating inside Russia.
Unfortunately, such people in Russia today.
It sounds like he wants to get rid of that problem.
USA or any other country for that matter are not interested in helping anyone. The only reason countries interfere in each others affairs are to pursue their own profit interests. Eg. the main profits of war go to the arms and ammunitions industry, surveillence industry and to the politicians who act as an agent of the industries.
People are encouraged to distrust each other and conflicts are instigated, using media as a tool, so that arms and ammunitions sell and profits are made by a handful of people at the cost of lives of others. Politicians are purchased so that they declare wars on other countries. Honest politicians working in the interests of the majority of population never have the money to win elections.
Welcome to modern day illusion of DEMOCRACY.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html
Who's interests are served by the UN?
I believe Bill Gates gave the UN 1 billion dollars
It's the Obama Doctrine. Everything Obama and his adminstration does turns to toxic shit.
Kissinger Doctrine carried out by LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush, Clinton, Cheney. W & Obama are genocidal children.
Its a well known fable : when Midas lost his touch !
What we didn't know is WHY Midas lost his magical touch.
Now we do : he went lock, stock and barrel into debt pumped fiat!
For a more serious explanation of the Russian geo political vision behind this "takedown" of Pax Americana's current foreign policy, read this view, as expressed by a Ruski proponent of Putin's geo politics, under the heading of "Reverse Zbi's balkanisation chessboard strategy for Asia"
http://127.0.0.1:1886/startpageapi/redirect_to_item_from_sp?item_id=2050...
did he say the Bolsheviks were mostly Jews in a nation that was under 7% [at most] Jewish?
Did he note that the neocons were and are Zionist, and mostly Jewish?
Has he noted that much of the over-the-top, anti-Russian and anti-Putin rhetoric (and I don't mean fair criticism of how he handled Crimea or some of his domestic policies) has come from Jewish authors and pundits? 2% of the population - but how many MSM news sources can *you* name that are not either Jewish owned/managed or disproportionately staffed with Zionists?
At some point, it begins to look, to an honest mind, that International Jewry once again has Russia in her sites, as perhaps do other groups, Alex Jonestown's "globalists" and the banks and MIC, sure... true enough... but n the political and media and it seems NGO arena (FDD, USAID, Soros)the wildly disproportionate presence of Jews is stunning - while the silence about it in the press is merely to be expected.
Frankly, if international, organized Zionism or Jewry per se are once again targeting Russia, you know it is not for reasons that are good for the Russian people, or 98% of the rest of us.
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What did Putin do, especially vis a vis Bush/Obama/Blair - that so gets the panties of ignorant twats like nmewn in a twist?
He watched NATO expand, and US military presence grow all around Russia's borders. He watched the US invade one of the largest oil producing nations in the world on a pretext, with evidence fabricated mostly by Jewish neocons (Office of Special Plans - google "the lie factory" at mother jones).
He watched the CIA interfere all over Latin America, over and over, and he watched the US protect Israel from diplomatic and economic consequences of massive, unequivocal war crimes in Palestine and LEbanon - over and over. He watched the US interfere in Libya, setting up a private central bank and buttressing the petrodollar scheme, and backing a puppet regime the "terrorist" average people of Libya don't support - he watched drone wars on Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Sudan, as well as an increasing troop presence all over Africa. He watched the US arm ultra-violent Jihadi mercenaries in Syria, while alo continuing, with Israel, to support terror groups in Iran - which is not working on a nuke but has every reason to be.
Then he watched, for the second time in 10 years, the US meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine - a nation nowhere near the US borders, but in Russia's backyard.
He has probably read "the Grand Chessboard" and knows the IMF and EU wanted to drain Ukraine of its wealth while stoking Ukrainian ultra-nationalism, which meant stoking anti-Russian feeling (hence your street nazis - currently being whitewashed out of the narrative though the evidence is ABUNDANT of their role at Maidan)...
So what did he do He initially suggested Ukraine could have deals with the EU *and* Russia - the EU said no, speaking, of course, for NATO and the IMF.
He knew NATO intended to target the Black Sea fleet - which would be a red line for any Russian leader, but especially given American hyperinterventionism. So he sent a small number of additional troops to Crimea - enough to stop a Ukrainian/covert NATO advance, and called for an election.
Crimea, a part of Russia proper for hundreds of years until the 1950s, is still majority ethnic Russian, and voted to rejoin Russia rather than be subject to the puppet regime in Kiev.
As to the breakaway republics, it seems likely that he provided some aid to ethnic Russian separatists, but it is also likely that NATO was and is providing military and tactical support for Kiev's putsch regime. Evidence of their targeting of civilians is all over the internet - so Putin could sit and watch ethnic Russians be killed in their homeland, on his border - or he could provide them some arms to defend themselves while calling for talks - which in essence Kiev and NATO rejected at every turn.
But for nmewn and the paid CIA trolls at the NYTimes - Putin is he bad guy, the imperialist, the newest new Hitler, while the EU and US are beacons of freedom, economic equity, and peace.
Why does nmewn think this?
Simple: he doesn't know what he is talking about, and he is a reprehensible, inveterate twat.
He watched NATO expand, and US military presence grow all around Russia's borders.
Yeah?
http://www.eur.army.mil/organization/units.htm
Are you refering to the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment - about 3,600 soldiers - which replaced 1st Armored Division (about 16,000 soldiers)?
Or maybe you meant the Separte 173'd Airborne BDE- about 3,600 soldiers - which has been in Vincenza Italy since 1943? It stayed, that's true. Now it does the mission that 1st Infantry Division - 16,000 soldiers - used to do when Putin came into office. Let's see, 16,000 turned into 3.600.... and that is an increase... right.
Or maybe you mean the 12th Combat Aviation Brigade? It replaced the 170th Regiment that was disbanded, and the 2nd Stryker Brigade. (Ergo 2 are gone, and were replaced by one alone.)
You can see the details of the 'expansion' here: (expansion in the same way that a minus-sign is the same as a plus sign)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Europe#War_on_Terror
Or maybe you mean all the other units listed here:
http://www.eur.army.mil/organization/units.htm
You know, because supply specialists are really intimidating... you know ... like Corporal Klinger.
lol.
I don't know if you know enough to be called a troll, maybe not, but if you're sincere, I'd keep looking into NATO expansion and the shiny new bases in the -stans.
You can't possibly think SF deployments are listed, can you?
They aren't.
Neither are military contractors.
For the benefit of my fellow ZHers, I will tell you gcjohns thinks he knows about military subjects. The problem is he doesn't.
I am getting bored rebutting his sophomoric posts. He relies heavily on wikipedia and promotes Colonel Custer tactics, such as positioning artillery out at the maximum range, where they have no coverage and cede all the initiative and offensive. He thinks he can divine the exact composition and makeup of a forces by fitting a square peg in a round hole, etc...
He may be part troll, but I think he actually believes his own bullshit.
Bang on. Putin has kept his sheets dry under continued and increasing provocation from US shepherded EU and NATO. Impressively so. He knows that a falling empire is dangerous. He will wait until it's fallen already.
Bolshevik Jews not welcomed in Russia.
Putin knows his enemy.
Our enemy as well.
It goes much deeper than Bolshevism, but he doesn't need to go there, yet.
Tell Herb Meyer that Putin lives.
He knows the score and that the Jewish Bolsheviks were directly responsible for the ethnic warfare against the Russians in the Red Revolution and Red Terror, as well directing the terror organizations, Checka, NKVD, Gulags, later KGB, and East German Stasi. They were Stalin's henchmen for starving and murdering 7-10 Million during the Ukrainian Holodomor in 1932-33, as well. Same situation we now have with the NSA-CIA-Mossad-MI6, DHS, DOD, and the same ethno-mafia using terror and attempting to cause chaos and destruction all over Europe and the Middle East, while their ethnic cohorts in control of the Western corporate media run the propaganda and cover for them. Third world immigration and the massive illegal immigrant invasion are their prefered ethnic bioweapons of the day.
Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish(85%) http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.530857 Stalin's Jews http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html Nobel Laureate, Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together" http://www.toqonline.com/blog/translation-200-years-together/ Behind Communism: Frank Britton(1952) https://archive.org/details/BehindCommunismI've been saying it about Obama since day 1. It must be really demoralizing for him knowing that everything he touches turns to shit.
*PUTIN SAYS LEADERS WIN SUPPORT BY BEING CONFIDENT THEY'RE RIGHT
A direct shot at the "no strategy yet" OBAMA.
It was reported earlier today that the US State Department had changed it's name to the Department of Cat Hearding, adding, " John Kerry has been issued a whistle ".
They're gonna change the name of Ukraine to Kaganistan...
How about Againistan? or Notagainistan?
Nuland has more entendres
" John Kerry has been issued a whistle "
One of those kinds where you pull the ring in and out on one end, while blowing into the other.
"weeeeooooooweeeeeooooooooweeeeeooooo".
That'll keep him busy for a while.
Department of Cat "Herding" opps
I suppose we could condemn our affirmative action President for this mess, but when was the last time we really had one worth a damn? Taft?
Ike...
there has been a persistent effort to paint "putin lovers" as a terrrrrriiisst .org in support of the enemy rather than, ironically, picking the globalist choice to rule the world. putin and russia is not the choice. brics and the nonaligned are the choice. we wish the usa would get onboard a much more stable diversified pool of assets rather than the current abusive dollar system allowing the current asset raping atmosphere as things to buy begin to run out.
funny how the russians have always taken a matter of fact approach to world politics and their own foreign policy. from brutalizing their own people to banging shoes on a podium to yelstin's drunken rampage of plunder to putin's obvious savvy. compared to the planned obfuscation(sic?) of usa politics they are all generals of the world, f troop to james bond. then along comes "we have no plan" barry(shaka bruddah) peace brah, obambam to tell us as much, once again the most transparent .gov in recent memory(at least as far back as shrub).
desperate empires go to war. that is a historical truth just like the russian guy mentioned the other day. the usa, therefore, is going to war/is warring. there is a certain level of oh shit building with the latest insane clown foreign policy maneuvers.
(ps. will someone please fucking spell for me! i can't fucking spell anymore! the words don't even look right when they are spelled correctly! FFFFUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!)
Sure, everything the US touches now turns into a disaster .... but doesn't the world need an out-of-control hegominc evil dictatorship that spends trillions a year on the military industrial complex that fleeces its own tax-payers?.
Lockheed Martin (LMT) up 43% this year, plus a great dividend.
Do we control Iraq's and Libya's oil? Well, then mission accomplished. Suffering, death and destruction are just collateral damage.
Another key point, are these countries now in the Rothschild/Morgan/Central Bank debt-based banking system?
The man has a POINT! They are nothing but destroyers in DC.
Aassertions that Russia 'loves Gold' are empty. They don't mean anything other than that the Russian oligarchs collect gold.
The Western oligarch bankers love gold too. They love it so much that they don't want you to have any of it. They lease it out from PUBLIC treasuries in the market and then BUY it in to their PERSONAL treasuries at discounted prices.
People's implied assertion that Russia's love of Gold equates to a future fair gold standard is similarly empty. Putin just contradicted it.
The 'hard currency' (hard because it clinks in your pocket) 'Gold Standard' has been the CENTRAL plank of classical liberal economics for two hundred years. Putin just slammed those liberal economics.
Putin JUST NOW SAID HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN CLASSICAL LIBERAL ECONOMICS. He believes it leads to depletion of resources and booms and busts. He is matching the rhetoric from the US Federal Reserve WORD FOR WORD.
MEANWHILE, Putin governs through HIS FRIENDS - OLIGARCHY. He also regulates the Russian economy, foreign trade, and conducts foreign policy in general for the benefit of his friend's enterprises - CORPORATISM, a.k.a. FASCISM. PUTIN supports and directs, through his CB, the fiat currency known as the Russian Ruble. The Russian Ruble most recently defaulted sixteen years ago - AT PUTIN'S COMMAND.
Putin's policies matches those of the 'crooked NY and London "markets" move-for-move, policy-for-policy. The difference (if there is one) is that he is more confrontational about it.
People who want to romanticize Russia's political class are talking and acting in a vacuum of 100% ignorance. They need to do some research and get a friggin' clue. There are MOUNTAINS of information about Russian regulations and prohibitions to free enterprise that ABSOLUTELY CONFIRM WHAT I AM SAYING - for those who are willing to use their own heads rather than parrot propagandists.
Clinton's legacy
jihadi bama supports IS and the caliphate and rejects secular muzzie leaders... Mubarak Khadaffy Assad
HE IS ONE OF THEM
Putin Says Everything U.S. Touches Turns Out Like Libya Or Iraq
He has a point ...and it's true
Putin got most of his claims right
Off-topic: Ebola has mutated 250 times during current outbreak.
Not sure if ZH has covered this yet?
"data show that the virus is rapidly accumulating new mutations as it spreads through people. "We've found over 250 mutations that are changing in real time as we're watching," Sabeti says.
While moving through the human population in West Africa, she says, the virus has been collecting mutations about twice as quickly as it did while circulating among animals in the past decade or so.
"The more time you give a virus to mutate and the more human-to-human transmission you see," she says, "the more opportunities you give it to fall upon some [mutation] that could make it more easily transmissible or more pathogenic."http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/08/28/343734184/ebola-is-rapi...
Yes, I just posted a link to NPR, forgive me. This article in NPR was the only one I saw citing a number of mutations -- other articles just said it had "mutated repeatedly".
A commenter, maybe it was Miffed?, had discussed the danger of increased speed of mutation once the virus passes through larger numbers of people. It would be interesting to hear more on this study. It seems that this study was conducted using people from early in the outbreak. I wonder what the results would be if samples were taken from the more recent patients.
The only thing that's mutated is their story, as facts show them to be lying.
Given that viruses have been proven to mutate, and that they are likely to accelerate mutation when they move through larger numbers of hosts, is it unreasonable to think that ebola may have undergone multiple mutations during this outbreak? More mutations than the "experts" are even aware of?
The "facts" that "show them to be lying" -- do you have some of these facts to share? I will be happy to see facts that prove that ebola has not undergone any type of mutation during this outbreak. I will be overjoyed to see these facts if you would like to present them.
I would like to see that this is the same old ebola that has existed for decades, that it is no more easily transmissible now than it ever was. I would like to believe that it has not mutated, that the experts know what they are dealing with, and that the laws of nature have finally been harnessed by man. Somehow, I doubt this. I think it fare more likely that this virus is doing what is natural to a virus -- it is evolving and adapting in order to replicate itself more quickly and more efficiently.
Yawn.
Go ahead, keep feeding the beast with your fear.
That might have been me.
It is not a case of "increased speed of mutation", since the average rate of variation is 3% per kilobase-pair per replication cycle (for single-stranded viruses). What we generally see is that when moving into a new host, the virus appears to "fine-tune" itself to optimise the virus-host interaction (from the virus's viewpoint obviously), simply because those mutations providing a "better" infectivity / transmissibility, will be preferentially selected over the "native" wild type.
So, what we see is a case of the virus appearing to become a more "effective pathogen" in the new host, as the number of host - to - host passages increases. Unfortunately, these "improvements" do not necessarily equate to improved host survival (as many have proposed with finger's crossed I think!)
LGBTstan should not touch anything...The whole US government looks more and more like a bunch of old deranged perverts in a bathhouse.
putin is right. look at that guy he is married to, now he looks like a drag queen
Will Putin cite these extreme MISPRICING histories, that are nearly never shown?!?!
http://www.showrealhist.com/yTRIAL.html
And everything Putin touches turns out like Russia.
So...
In Putin's world pointing nuclear missiles at someone who has not militarily attacked you is 'DEFENSE'
BUT
Keeping a shield that shoots down those missiles is 'OFFENSE'.
Oh, I get it.
Russia is backwards land.
So shields are offensive, and missiles are defensive in backwards land.
And in backwards land, the statement that missiles are for security not attack means....?
Appears nothing has changed with foreign policy there since 1917.
Nothing has changed in America since the early 18th century with our deliberate genocide of the Native Americans and our robbery of Texas and California from Mexico, not unlike Russia's action in Crimea.
Nations that live in felonious houses, shouldn't hurl perjured allegations.
BTW, do you know where the Ukrainian ATC tape is?
Crimea was Russian BEFORE the French-backed Rebels in British Colonies signed the Treaty of Paris in 1783 to claim independence from The Crown
Here's an idea. All you Putin haters hop a jet to Kiev and volunteer to join the fight.
Come on drop the keyboards and man up.
Just like I thought, plenty of guts but another does the bleeding for you.
Yeah yeah.
In 2002 when Bush withdrew the US from the 30 year old ABM treaty which disallowed the missile shield you think so much of, that was just another peaceful act of the US, like the invasion of Iraq 2 years later.
BAH.
gcjohns, I am having a hard time telling whether you are just thick as a brick or a certified troll.
If you had the ability to think just one step ahead you would understand that Russia's position makes perfect sense.
When you have a ballistic shield right on the borders of the targeted country (Russia), you alter the calculus and balance of forces that have been painstakingly negotiated, essentially voiding any agreements.
The ability to intercept missiles close to Russia provides a "defensive capability" which converts into "offensive capability" by moving away from the MAD concept into the "acceptable losses" or "minimal losses" territory, thereby making a first strike, or a decisive strike possible.
Gaining the ability of a first, or decisive strike is an offensive capability.
Putin Lies!
Everything the USA touches turns out like the TV show "Sons of Guns!"
Putin talking his book. Its all bullshit, folks.
Putin looks competent and he doesn't wear TAN...
Obumerang touches a country with his magic golf club and "ding" it turns to shit.
These are absolutely the dumbest, worst posts I've ever seen on ZH. Somebody is getting scammed out of their astroturf funds.
Please see mine #5158934,
a few before this one of yours.
You're really Arachne, aren't you?
That happy pussy doesn't fool me.
I knew this article would set the faithful to whacking all over their keyboards.
Bring a tarp
Glad you could join us.
It appears that Bismarck is back and Russia's got him.
"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They demand illusions, and cannot do without them. They constantly give what is unreal precedence over what is real; they are almost as strongly influenced by what is untrue as by what is true. They have an evident tendency not to distinguish between the two."
— Sigmund Freud, Group Psychology and The Analysis of The Ego
Thank you very much for the quote of Freud. I have been trying to do an EXCEPTION with this.
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1223928
I have little to show for my efforts!
In case you have any thoughts ... be glad to hear.
I am certain that it is a far, far better thing for our nation if the people have their heads OUT of their fuming darknesses. (Remember: 1-person/1-vote)
Ukranian people in Mariupol prepare for brutal Putin regime invasion what is invaded at their city borders and prepares for bloodbath (http://liveuamap.com/) .
People gather in crowds and sing Ukraine national anthem to show their love to their country no matter what Russian occupation force wil do to them:
http://youtu.be/twbtLU9YUzw
http://youtu.be/PILstC9SfoY
If they love Ukraine so much they should piss off to Lvov and sing their pathetic songs there.
lol?
He could have said turns out like Gaza...
http://carryingaflag.blogspot.com/2014/07/hitler-on-roof-netanyahus-ramp...
The Anglo-American Zionist Empire sows chaos - by design.
Ord Ab chao and all.
But read your Talmud - not all "globalists" are so un-ethnic or un-eschatological in their teleology...
"PUTIN: NO MATTER WHAT U.S. DOES, IT TURNS OUT LIKE LIBYA, IRAQ"
Duh Vlad, that is the plan and don't pretend you don't know that.
We are the new broke Socialist Soviets looking for easy poorly defended resources to steal.
Russia is the New America
And America is the new Mongol Horde
I heard Putin is invading Mexico next.