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This Is How ISIS Is Building An Airforce

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The Islamic State is nothing if not ambitious. Despite no record of current 'airplane' assets in their annual reports, ISIS has begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft. According to CNN Arabic, the pilots (and their planes and helicopters) were abducted when the terrorist group gained control of Tabqa military base. It appears that if beheadings, executions, and whippings are not enough to strike fear into the hearts of the locals, then (just as America is tryiung to do), an air assault will greatly demoralize. We can only imagine how this changes Obama's strategy (and just where are all the rest of Syria and Iraq's airplanes stored?)

 

 

Via Al Arabiya,

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria said in a recent tweet it is forcing detained Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft, CNN Arabic reported on Saturday.

 

In an account reportedly associated with the militant group, ISIS said in a tweet the pilots were abducted when the group gained control over the Tabqa military airbase in Raqqa Province.

 

ISIS seized the airbase earlier this month. The major airfield houses warplanes, helicopters, tanks and other artillery and ammunition, which were also confiscated by ISIS, according to several media reports.

 

ISIS did not provide any information about the nature of the training, according to CNN Arabic.

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As NYTimes reported,

The fall of the Tabqa air base followed the group’s seizing of two other Syrian military bases and gave it effective control of Raqqa Province, which abuts the Turkish border and whose capital city, Raqqa, has long served as the group’s de facto headquarters.

 

Photographs posted Sunday on Twitter accounts sympathetic to ISIS showed bearded fighters in the air base, standing next to a destroyed fighter jet and appearing to cut the head off a dead soldier.

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Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:17 | 5163279 rubiconsolutions
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New film - "Torah! Torah! Torah!" 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:19 | 5163283 loregnum
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Which just backs up the thought that isis is simply a cia/intelligence controlled spin-off and the whole media story of them is nothing but BS.

So 13 years ago we allegedly had planes full of people watch as 4 or 5 cave dwellers with utility knives take them over (and then these cave dwellers being able to defy the laws of physics later in the day) and now we allegedly have air bases full of trained people just watch as some guys take over their planes.

Uh huh.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:38 | 5163335 I need Another Beer
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Yes blame the Jooos, they control all money, the sun , tides , wind , sand niggers , niggers in general , joos  , water , cancer , obesity , Mcdonalds , taxes , bitches that wont fuck , bills , stupidity{U guys are excepted} ,hurricanes , global warming and cooling , the price of ammo and the lack of 22's.

 

But not courage

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:55 | 5163508 Majestic12
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You had me with blaming Zionist jews...then went deep surrreal...

"courage"?  Tell us, Cowardly Lion...how do you define "courage" (because the meaning is universal, right?)...then tell us what-the-fuck it has to do with this subject...of a CIA-created and sponsored group of mercs sent out to "shock" and murder in order to justify the US "secretly" bombing Syria....huh?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:52 | 5163483 Majestic12
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"This Is How [the CIA] Is Building An Airforce"

One part dumbass Sheeple, who think only in "good/bad" ideological terms and have a 6th-grade education...

Two parts (free) Sheeple tax-payer money...preferrably fiat, fractional reserve, debt-based....

Two parts Black Ops cash money from global Herion, Pot and Cocaine dealing....

One part Saudi/Qatar payola....

All MSM propaganda "news" outlets, websites, Television distribution, Cable distribution, Satellite distribution...to "feed" the Sheeple's insatiable appetite for anything to boost their pitifully-low self-esteem.....

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:02 | 5163526 ExpendableOne
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So whill the flight instruction include landing?????

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 07:39 | 5164266 free_lunch
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I feel sad for all the guys who didn't get to fullfill their childhood dream of becoming a fighter pilot, because it used to be so hard..

 

 

Becoming an Air Force pilot is no easy task. If you make it, you will be among the elite of the elite in the United States armed services.

Here’s what you need to do if you’re going to try to reach this lofty goal: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforcejoin/ss/afpilot.htm How long would training to become a fighter pilot take?:  https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080412214103AAhFBM5

 

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:11 | 5164290 free_lunch
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double

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 08:35 | 5164314 clade7
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Sure!  they had to park in the 'long term' lot!

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:52 | 5164384 toady
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Yep.

"They promised if we surrender, they won't execute us."

What's the worst that could could happen?

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:24 | 5164424 HardAssets
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Kinda like in those old Rambo movies.

Rambo could do Anything including fly helicopters, fight like an Apache behind enemy lines, etc, etc, etc

Do people really believe all this b.s. about ISIS/Al Qaeda ?  I guess people actually think the images they've see from out of Hollywood, and build their view of the Real World on that.

Its a psy-op designed to make you wet your pants in fear. A creation of intel agencies and other elements which serve the anglo-American power structure.  Quite clever and apparently effective on the dumbed down population.

 

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 13:10 | 5164851 alexinathens
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It must be the first school for jihadi pilots... They just need to learn how to take off and navigate. Hell, the navigation can be one from the pentagon anyways... Long live the prezzz. Just kidding

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:56 | 5171360 Frostype
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Pilot training takes years. Plus they need a lot of high quaity kerosine. Big ambitions small brains.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:10 | 5162964 manich
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Yeah, just like "we" are letting them sell millions of dollars of oil every day. What a bunch of BS!

Be afraid, very afraid. They are coming to cut off our heads!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:07 | 5163514 Majestic12
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"they"....."our".....?  Same country, Jeb....your money made 'em....and paid for your own funeral, if it happens....keep giving "permission" and "they" (we? USA? 1%? 99%?)  will keep taking all....

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:11 | 5162966 Cognitive Dissonance
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All your airplanes are belong to ISIS.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:36 | 5163183 RECISION
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They will need a truckload of SAM's as well, if they want to be able to keep them intact.

Or at least - embarrass whoever might try and bomb them...

Hmmm, that would work too wouldn't it.

- Sucker in a Western airstrike with planes(targets) you can't even operate anyway.

- Splash a few of the attackers with SAM's.

- Claim a great propaganda coup (specially if you nabbed a pilot)

- embarrass the hell out of your enemies...

ISIS could be onto something there...

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:13 | 5162970 indio007
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Thanks CNN Arabic.

 

Now there is the built excuse to shoot down Syrian planes.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:12 | 5162974 Troy Ounce
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Time to be afraid, very afraid. The're even busy in Africa building airplanes:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_dsNTZch0#t=10

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:23 | 5163013 X-defiler
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You Guys are soo funny. When I am sad, I come to ZERO to get a lift-me-up.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:19 | 5163571 espirit
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Funny also about the NATO photos of recoiless towed artillery.

Gutwrenching Hillarity.  

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:17 | 5163150 Smerf
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Gotta love the guy for trying.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:46 | 5163349 BigJim
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What an idiot. That plane will never fly! He should have consulted with an expert for some aeronautical engineering design tips... someone like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgQJlYRrZs

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:08 | 5163810 Rusty Shorts
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Wow!!!, now I know what Tom Hanks does on vacation LOL

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:43 | 5163761 Rusty Shorts
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...they getting better though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQA_iCpFJ3Q

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:14 | 5162979 Seize Mars
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What a fucking crock of bullshit.
The CIA lying bullshitting narrative is a laughable joke.
Bull.
Shit.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:15 | 5162980 kaa1016
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Let them get military jets. That's just bigger targets for the US to hit. Also, has anyone else noticed that ISIS really started to take off right around the time that Prince Bandar was relieved from his position as Saudi intelligence chief? Prince Bandar, aka Bandar Bush, aka the guy that told Putin that he controls the jihadists. Food for thought.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:47 | 5163983 WOAR
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He also reportedly dissappeared for several years prior to becoming the Saudi intelligence chief, with no explanation for this ever given.

Fishy fishy stuff.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:15 | 5162981 jmaloy5365
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.....BULLSHIT.....

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:19 | 5162984 trillion_dollar...
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We need to get some strategery on this asap.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5162985 db51
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Uh.....how long does it take to train a goat herder to fly one of those things?   Seriously folks,   I'm betting the survival rate of those newly trained pilots is 0% with all of the fatalities occurring at take off....and if they did make it off the tarmac, that first landing would be a doozy.  lmao.    I can't wait for those bearded goat fuckers to cross the Southern Illinois border.   Coyotes and buzzards will be well fed this winter if they get this far.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:18 | 5162999 john39
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this propaganda is laughable bullshit. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:48 | 5163069 Mr Pink
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Exactly...The US couldn't get their war in Syria or Iran so they just create, arm and train an army of mercs to take over the entire ME for them. Special added bonus: scaring the shit out of the sheep at home and maybe even another false flag!

BRILLIANT!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:52 | 5163220 Anarchy 99
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say hello to my friend the french "idiot" on the Slope   :)  

signed    JLS

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:27 | 5163590 espirit
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Nah, it's really easy to take off.

Flaps down, power to 80%, speed to 140 KpH, yank back on the controls.

Of course manuvering and landing are a bit different.

ISIS has a YouToob vid on 'How to Fly Like Allah'.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:20 | 5163287 SilverRhino
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They are not training pilots to become Top Gun dogfighters.   They are training pilots to turn captured planes into manned cruise missiles. Even a MIG-23 is a threat if the pilot doesn't give a shit where him and his payload land.  

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:50 | 5163986 WOAR
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This.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5162988 debtor of last ...
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The inheritors of the Wolfowitz doctrine.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:17 | 5162991 Hannibal
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There is no way this scum can do this without the OK and support from the CIA.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:30 | 5163597 espirit
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The real question is 'why not a news blackout'?

Hinky Machinations.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:18 | 5163001 Inthemix96
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I have never heard such bullshit in all my life.

Go fuck yourselves you clever idiots running the show.  You really think people are buying this?

Desperation springs to mind NSA GCHQ.

Is this the best you got then?

Cunts

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:33 | 5163037 Inthemix96
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At some point you fucking cunts, you will be held accountable for the actions you took.

Now think long and hard about that boys.

You do, after all have to live amongst those you decieve, dont you?

Ask your wives and kids, and I bet they wont like it, not one jot.

Cunts

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:33 | 5163601 espirit
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What do you think Obomba tells his kids?

'Don't believe anything you hear'?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:30 | 5163859 CCanuck
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His kids..hahahahha...His Kids?Hahahahahahhahahahahha

Ya, and the wookie spat those out...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

His Kids.....That there is funny!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:40 | 5163969 espirit
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Well, the real truth is probably unbelieveable as well.

Veracity is a rare commodity these days.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:12 | 5163136 JRev
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Agreed, but GCHQ isn't NSA, it's British intelligence and has been an ongoing program since the early 20s... that fact is more important than most might initially imagine.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:23 | 5163003 tony wilson
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a chatham house stooge yesterday stated that isis was set up by assad : )

jew better believe it issac.

isis seed funded by assad until they became this conquering monster.

interesting theory from jacob and edwyne rothschilds thinky tanky.

so isis now have planes  with  kosher pilots just like ukrainia.

planes for nuclear or ebola drop false flags, airplanes hitting nuclear power plants

thats what bressinski and kissinger wants yes sir eli

anything better or  badder than isis ebola isis nuclear no schlomo

since isis do not seem to be aware israel exists maybe they will head for iran nuke test facilities

 

assad is in the firing line via the isis act only one more false flag neaded then it's on.

qatar,uae,israel,turkey,uk,france all team usa all missile dumping that lovely depleted uranium all planes painted usaf

forward zion

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:31 | 5163028 nope-1004
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kosher pilots... lmao

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:38 | 5163608 espirit
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Am pretty sure Putin knows how to checkmate any move on Assad.

Barry fired all the chessmasters and kept the psychos.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:53 | 5163226 Buster Cherry
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A little early to be hittin the bottle?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:07 | 5163395 Minge
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C'mon, Bob.  Come up with some new material.  Your psycholgical disorders are kind of amusing to me, but your repetative comments are beyond pedantic.

 

You've become the "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" poster.  Just keep painting that on the wall.  Relentlessly.  Over and over again.  I hope things work out better for you than it did for the last guy who suffered from the same affliction.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:21 | 5163007 Anglo Hondo
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Train the assholes to fly.  Take off, gain some height over friendly territory, tell the asshole to take over, and then eject.

 

72 virgins beats a bad 'landing' any day.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:11 | 5163819 GrandPaFred
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What the Imans don't tell them jihadists is that those 72 virgins in waiting are actually fellow jihadists [all guys]

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:24 | 5163012 kchrisc
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It would seem to me that the CIA learned much from their Iran-Contra scandal.

Have their proxies invade another country to seize what has been well placed for them to seize.

Have their proxies seize aircraft and pilots for an air force instead of depending on the CIA's air force.

An American, not US subject.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:27 | 5163016 Dr. Engali
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Now, where have I heard this before? "Islamic"....(ahem CIA)..... terrorists learning to fly planes. I wonder if they are learning to land them, or if they even need to bother.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:01 | 5163105 Yen Cross
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 Hey Doc, ML-17 was loaded with ISIS pilots, who were transferred at Diego Garcia.

  Project CIAhem/

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:29 | 5163025 tony wilson
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i find it facinating that folks like jewish mossad agent rupert murdoch  can imbed his vice tv show crews for weeks and weeks with isis.

eliot goldfarb,jeffrey feltchberg,saul kleinfelt such talented kosher hd video directors on an eyewitness reporting role during a musselamic bearded caliphate creation.

hero awards and pulitzers needed for this talmudic crew.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:42 | 5163198 Infinite QE
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Yes, this is Wag the Dog on crack. Supersized.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:31 | 5163444 Minge
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Bob.  Seriously.  Risperdal would do you well.  Borderline personality disorder is really dangerous.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:27 | 5163029 GrinandBearit
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We are at a point where audio and visual propaganda does not work anymore.

A physical event(s) is required.  That event is right around the corner. 

This crISIS construct is the perfect patsy.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:34 | 5163036 world_debt_slave
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war profiteers ftw

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:34 | 5163040 khildner
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Zerohedge, u been hacked by the Guvernmint? :D

Next is IS hackers in critical infrastructure; they attended a crash course !!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:39 | 5163048 alexcojones
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Borrow planes from Israel?

I mean, if Michael Chertoff had a son. . .

Israel, ISIL have a lot in common
Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:40 | 5163053 syntaxterror
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Fuck ISIS. Those faggots aren't shit yielding a 3 wood.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:14 | 5163275 RafterManFMJ
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I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I greened ya 'cause I like your passion.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:44 | 5163063 Super Hans
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That jet looks like some trainer from the '60's.

Mr. "I can't speak coherent english" laid the foundation for this shit storm by getting rid of Saddam; I mean how fucking stupid was that? if not done by design.  Now we got Barry building the framwork.  I just give up!  Most people I know are too busy just keeping their heads above water to even notice this shit!  Who the fuck even watches the cable news anymore?  Notice the ads the play? it's all based on demographics! any of you wearing aduclt diapers!  O fuck it! 

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:17 | 5163278 RafterManFMJ
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Every time I'm gettin' a serious drunk on I wear adult diapers. I can sit at the bar for 12 hours straight.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:54 | 5163659 Ginsengbull
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That jet was a state of the art air superiority fighter in the 60's.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:50 | 5163072 QQQBall
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Next up = Obomber to fund star wars defense shield as ISIS reportedly planning launch of Death Star. lOL

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:53 | 5163080 dizzyfingers
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Deep gov has lots of spare assets; if ISIS/L is cia then wouldn't they have access to whatever they need, and wouldn't their handlers get them whatever they need? Has happened over and over. Just sayin...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:54 | 5163086 Catullus
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"Forced to train".

Pfff

It takes years to train US pilots. This is total bullshit.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:40 | 5163193 syntaxterror
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They don't train them to land bro.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:10 | 5163548 ExpendableOne
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Exactly.  They just need to fly one time.  The IAF will soon have some interesting targets to play with.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:59 | 5163999 Catullus
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The Qataris will give them scud missiles. There's no reason to use a fighter as a suicide bomb.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:29 | 5163307 QQQBall
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Maybe they will train on Cessnas and 737 simulators in AZ?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:08 | 5163547 espirit
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...or play 'World of Warcraft'.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:51 | 5163648 Ginsengbull
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We start them very early on video games.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:58 | 5163089 Yen Cross
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 lol, ISIS=CIA...  which= FFPWD, "False Flag Proxy Wet Dream"...

  Where's the rock/stone slinging trebuchet?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:58 | 5163096 xavi1951
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This article is CRAP!  I worked with Iranian fighter pilots in training back in the 70's and they were pretty lame.  I don't think the Iraqi pilots would be any better and the ISIS pilots even worse after being trained by Iraqi pilots.  Those fighters will need 'spare parts' if they survive bombs or missles.  It's better to destroy them when pilots are in them, two birds...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:03 | 5163109 therevolutionwas
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Perhaps they could get off a few suicide missions.  No spare parts needed after that.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:17 | 5163139 KuriousKat
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Someting does not sound right as the Isis decapitated..allegedly..over a thousand students from the air force college..which in itself   sounded odd if planes were such a sought after commodity. Still The Iraqis during hussein era had an airfororce and many flew their planes to Iran. You still have old guard bathists who have joined with Isis from day one. Just as you have Bathist Sunni members who have simply taken the running of a city quite naturally..ie they have their old jobs back. Note how well in Isis vids they are running  cities...from courts to garbage collection.. I would not put it past at least one pilot trying to crash into an Iran nuclear plant for old times sake if not ..then one for the Gipper..or Bibi..

Neither can we exclude a pretext for taking out Assads SA 300 under guise preventing a catastrophe and essentially creating a no fly zone..long sought after..by some of the concerned parties..

Just sayin..

 

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:03 | 5163108 Lea
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Great, can I be trained to fly a jet fighter too? I can drive a supermarket trolley, if that counts as a qualification.

... the idea one can be trained to fly one of those just like that, is lu-di-crous.

Found on Yahoo: "You would have to attend OCS which is about 3 months in duration. Then you would have to be selected for flight school in Pensacola, Fl for basic flight. This could be for about a year. Then on to type training. This step varies in duration depending on what type of plane or helo you are learning to fly. It would take about two years all in all to fly."

And that's with specialized/organized courses, not some hapless terrorized teacher.

Moar fearmongering, and that's all.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:45 | 5163206 withglee
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... the idea one can be trained to fly one of those just like that, is lu-di-crous.

But wait! Didn't 19 cave men accomplish that on 911?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:14 | 5163272 bombdog
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So the story goes

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:30 | 5163595 Otto Zitte
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Saddam left them a bunch of X-Boxes he used to train his invincible Elite Republican Guard. 200 hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator = ISIS ace. 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:15 | 5164409 effendi
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Lea, it isn't hard to fly a plane. My son did it at 15 (between school and a part time job at McDonalds). Only takes a few hours to learn how to take off, circle and land (no harder than driving a car). Hundreds of them are from the West so I'll bet a few of the ISIS recruits already have flying experience on light aircraft and now just need to upgrade to flying jets. Unlike the USAF they don't have to worry about teaching dogfights, night landings ,in air refueling or 101 other things. Just take off and fly in the direction of a dam, skyscraper or nuclear plant and let kinetic energy do the rest.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:07 | 5163117 MeBizarro
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So let me get this straight - supposed ISIS fighters who have no flight experience at all or minimal flight experience (and certainly no combat jet experience) are going to get taught by Syrian pilots on largely old Soviet aircraft (mainly mothballed MiG-21s including what is in the picture).  It takes a minimum of 40 flight hours to become even competent flying the plane and handling it even with its symplistic controls. 

Syrian version of these aircraft were obsolete by the '82 Lebanon War and were shot down in droves by Israelis flying early versions of F-15 and F-16s.  Supposed to believe these aircraft somehow pose a threat including to Turkey, Israeli, Saudi Arabia, or even Iran?

Were also supposed to believe the US Air Force (which is vastly overrated) couldn't do one of the core things it does do well and that is blow up these airfield including the non-hardened bunker facilities that house these aircraft? 

This is one of the dumbest planted stories I have ever seen.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:16 | 5163146 caustixoid
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Absolutely idiotic story.  The Taliban managed to launch some rare fighter sortees during their war with the Northern Alliance in the 90s, but that involved using Afghan Airforce pilots that they'd captured/converted/held hostage.   Without proper maintenance and parts they couldn't keep it up very long.  

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:15 | 5163200 withglee
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Where are they getting a reliably continuous flow of fuel to keep this war machine going?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:08 | 5163543 Duffy Duck
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I disagree that the AF is over-rated and will presume, no offense, you don't know much about AF capability, that aside, Israel's early vaunted victories over disorganized, unmotivated Arab armies was almost exclusively due to far superior commend and control and complete control of the skies.  How much American "surplus" was involved we may never know.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:11 | 5163551 ExpendableOne
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Yep, you'd think that by now a nice flock of B52's would have made that air base unuseable.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:05 | 5163118 omrizario
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ISIS will attack any country, except Israel.

Why?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:44 | 5163207 Buster Cherry
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They fight back genius.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:53 | 5163227 Anarchy 99
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Really???   no, 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:45 | 5163764 tony wilson
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i like to make my own cherry gin.

sour or sweet cherrys will do.

you sound sweet dear would you like a drink?

not seen you around here before are you married darlin?

how about a dance.

tell me bitch are you a dirty arab or a filthy jew?

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:51 | 5163773 Minge
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Another brilliant and insightful post by Bob.  Take your meds, man.  You've been incoherent for a few weeks now.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:12 | 5163270 forrestdweller
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Because Israël will attack them until the last of them is dead.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:04 | 5163534 Duffy Duck
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Jihadists aren't scared of death, though, remember?

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:20 | 5163577 Minge
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Who's afraid of death?  It ultimately comes to us all.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:06 | 5163120 xavi1951
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ISIS might be more menacing if they had few sopwith camels...........

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:16 | 5163145 f16hoser
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Kamakazi Bitchez'

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:18 | 5163156 Smerf
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I guess all they have to figure out is how to take off. Fuck the landing.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:17 | 5163159 Yen Cross
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    Those old "steam guage" MiG's make great human torpedos. They aren't radioactive, and easy to assemble for any decent model builder.

   Throw one, (broken down) into a truck full of watermellons and say it's scrap metal. Rebuild it on the other side of the border, and have Achmed fly it into the building of his choice.

  OOPs/ finger in ass.  </sarc>

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:59 | 5163674 Lin S
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Love your posts, Yen...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:52 | 5163886 Yen Cross
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   ? Thanks

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:32 | 5163180 p00k1e
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As a startup ISIS is doing awesome. 

ISIS distributes annual reports, is there a prospectus we can download? 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:38 | 5163188 FredFlintstone
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"Past performance does not guarantee future returns."

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:14 | 5164405 Charming Anarchist
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--- says the guy who failed to BTFD. ;)

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:41 | 5163196 Infinite QE
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It's linked off of GS site.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:13 | 5163554 espirit
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Nas Ticker: ISIS

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:52 | 5163989 GrandPaFred
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They are backed by the best - the CIA and IRS

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:39 | 5163190 Kirk2NCC1701
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What a crock!  Time to get back to the family, BBQ, Brewskies, and 'Merican Football.

Even a hardcore ZHer needs a break now and then.  Cheers.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:44 | 5163204 Pumpkin
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Hell, anyone can fly one of those things.  Its as easy as riding a bike.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:09 | 5163260 Duude
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I knew the 5 year commitment the US military requires was overkill. Could have learned to master it between commercials during the last super bowl.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:11 | 5163263 forrestdweller
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Dinosaurs in F15's.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:23 | 5163291 bombdog
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How does a slave train his captor to fly a plane? If the slave takes off in the plane he can fly away and escape his captor.

Is it possibly a bullshit story to bring in an ISIS airforce already trained and equipped by Al-CIAda?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:24 | 5163296 flyonmywall
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What strategy? Homie don't gots no strategy.

We gotz homies.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:23 | 5163430 Lmo Mutton
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Yea right.  Cuz anybody can just jump in a fighter and "poof" Top Gun Maverick totally F'n ace in about 2 hours.

 

Really??  I call BS.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:35 | 5163453 TNTARG
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To think that if NATO wanted, they'll last 24 hours.

It's amazing the sh...t they're selling. They must believe we're all idiots.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 04:31 | 5164183 Sandmann
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Really ? NATO is frightened of losing soldiers and keeps them away from sharp objects. Besides NATO = USA and it has a small army of 500,000 and should be drafting all 18 year olds to fight in Iraq......and Afghanistan rather than leaving as in Saigon 1975

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:38 | 5163461 NoWayJose
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Syrian pilots training ISIS newbies sounds like a great way for ISIS to get a-head!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:44 | 5163478 NoWayJose
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There is so much dust and rust on that gear that you would have to think this is what was left at the base because it was either not capable of flying or not worth evacuating.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:46 | 5163480 Never One Roach
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Fugly.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:59 | 5163519 GFORCE
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So this is supposed to strike fear? Stolen planes and pilots wth a few days training? That 'air force' won't last too long.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:03 | 5163528 Duffy Duck
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Am I safe in assuming that if an ISIS pilot actually manages to take off  - he will fail to approach and target anything remotely Israeli and fly smack into some Syrian Arab Army facility, or perhaps an Iraqi government refinery?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:07 | 5163538 suprinity
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NSA should just cancel the ISIS twitter account.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:35 | 5163606 tuttisaluti
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Isis has only kamikaze pilots. Watch out.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:41 | 5163971 the grateful un...
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whats slower and less accurate and probably carries a smaller payload than a scud missile?

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:56 | 5164118 syntaxterror
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Moochelle Obama's ass? Key word is 'probably'.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:40 | 5163616 Karaio
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Tyler: 

 

Stop being stupid, ISIS does not exist. 

What does exist are the same guys that created Israel in 1948, and note in history. 

The same modus operandi, the same terror, the same thing again to create a state always just so, this time, a pipeline / pipeline pass that territory. 

Israel shot himself in the foot by creating ISIS, both USA and European Union will take action. 

Russia does not, it's not their problem, they do not need much less Jews of Israel. The more the circus catch fire in the Middle East over the price of oil goes up, the better for Russia. 

Just do not mess with the rest of Syria, lets eat the stick. 

Also do not mess with eastern and southern Ukraine, a fart NATO and there will be a big, big shit. 

Even I'm embarrassed Polish Slavic, Slavic am. 

You do not see socially, we are white. 

The difference is in the attitude. 

:-)

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:26 | 5163820 Minge
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Não falo inglês.  Obviously.  Yet, that does not account for your imbecilic commentary.  Sorry for the horn.  I meant to send you a rose.  Sometimes I get confused.

Nice smiley emoticon at the end of your prose.  Much more interesting than your starndard "hehe."  You, sir, have a future in the blogosphere with your boundless creativity and insightuful thoughts.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:50 | 5163641 Super Hans
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Britian forming 10K task force to fight who?  What about that news? This is already old news

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 07:09 | 5164250 Escapedgoat
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They are going to do a Cry-me-a 2.0

Participants : The Usual Actors

The Westerrn Allies: Britain, France, Germany, And the Baltics, in the place of the Kingdom of Sardinia it will be taken by the US of A.

the Opposition: Russians, contigent of Serbs and  Greeks, local and from the rest of Greek world.

Extras: Anti-NWO Patriots on the side of the Novorussians and NAZIS on the side of the Kiev Nazis.

And for reference to the old battle: Crimea 1.0

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:55 | 5163645 Yen Cross
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 Used Poppy Combine for sale:

All inquiries under consideration> Hell Fire 4th of July package optional.

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Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:51 | 5163649 Kelley
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Obama is a closet ISIS just like he is closet gay.

Standard military operations would require our military to destroy any equipment we have that would fall into the hands of ISIS. 

But SOP has been stopped in favor of ISIS capturing and keeping US equipment. There is only one reason for that. Obama is a member of the enemy.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:48 | 5163769 tony wilson
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maybe but since he has so far given israel over 10 billions dollars and restocked israels depleted uranium bombs the possibilty is he could also bid a yid.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:54 | 5163780 Minge
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"Also bid a yid"?  Medication, punctuation, and reality are your friends.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:09 | 5163917 Yen Cross
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 Minge , I like Tony and yourself. You're (2 ) generations apart with the SAME values!

 It's scary the damage the both of you could do! ( If you ever got along)

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:55 | 5163662 Tarshatha
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A little bit of competition never hurt anyone.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:04 | 5163665 Lin S
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Once this story hits 60 Minutes, its value in fear will dwarf whatever it cost xyz clandestine agency to set it all up by a factor of 1000.

Don't underestimate the crass stupidity of the rank-and-file American, they're now SO dumb that they'll buy most any and all Establishment-fed BS.

Just today I overheard some asshat in a local hobby shop lecturing the multitude about how "Russia is invading Ukraine to save the Ruble, and also because Vladimir Putin suffers from 'short man syndrome.'"

I said to the gf, "now you know what the atmosphere was like in late, 1930's Germany and Japan..."

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:32 | 5163739 Duc888
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Hey man, can't fault them.. At least they're tryin' to get some hoopty's aloft.

If ya got 'em ya might as well use 'em.

Hahahahahahahaha

Damn, wish I had me a F-16 or three.

I'm missin' out on the action.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/aug/29/why-is-the-united-ara...

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:51 | 5163775 Fix It Again Timmy
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Well, if they can't fly them, they could drive them down the road, drop a bomb and then step on the gas!!  As to the 9/11 pilots, they were certainly not anyone who flew small aircraft and then did training on a trainer.  Most people equate flying a plane to driving a car - "Yeah, I can steer my car RIGHT into a building" - the only difference is that the car has four points of friction that "tie" it to the earth and make it easily controllable.  A large jetline flying at 400-500 MPH is moving through a fluid medium [AIR] and that makes it so much more involved in maneuvering it and thus not able to be done by amateurs or "computer" pilots...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:54 | 5163779 potato
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The bigger the plane, the easier it is to fly. Glass cockpits just dial in the altitude and heading.

Bigger planes need more training for emergencies, that's all.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:52 | 5163776 potato
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Airplane bunkers are obsolete as of 20 years ago due to precision-guided munitions. Cluster bombs, they could protect against if not  a direct hit.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:58 | 5163785 agNau
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I'm calling horse, bull, donkey, and parakeet shit on this story.
Training, even someone with flying experience in any fighter jet, to engage in precision military exercises in an active battlefield. I will believe this, just like I believed the "pilots" trained for 911.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:23 | 5163935 Sizzurp
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Agree. It's one thing to find a few broken down old fighter jets and quite another to maintain, equip and operate them.  It takes several hundred hours of flight time to become proficient in a high performance machine like that, and 2-3 times that amount in ground training.  Very few countries in the world have the top to bottom infrastructure to keep a modern air force flying.  Now maybe you could train someone for a kamikazee mission pretty quickly, but there goes your' plane and pilot. It seems the best ISIS can hope for is to become fear fodder for the politicians.  When you have to justify a nearly trillion dollar defense budget, these little bogeymen groups like ISIS are worth their weight in gold.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:58 | 5163898 dogismycopilot
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actually, they willl turn them into one-way Jihadi cruise missiles with some jerk off Brit/Yank extremist flying them who thinks he is a cross between TOPGUN and MIDWAY. 

and video games now are quite good for simulators. most gamers get better training now then kamakaizis in WWII had!

remember, taking off is optional, but landing is mandatory...the new lexicon ABIED (Aerial Borne Improvised Explosive Device).

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:14 | 5163902 Yen Cross
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 No offence, to you Recreational users. If you need that sort of mental displacement. \ 

   I'll stick with OUZU.

 ThE Greeks are bankrupt (piggs) so I'll settle with Absinthe/

  Get ready for some volatility next week .

  bitchez

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:15 | 5163926 AdvancingTime
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All this seems like more smoke than fire.

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