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Movement to Declassify 9/11 Information Gathers Momentum ... 9/11 Commission Chairs and Congressmen Call for Declassification
The 9/11 Commission Co-Chairs - Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean - have called for the 28-page section of the 9/11 Commission Report which is classified to be declassified. Kean said that 60-70% of what was classified shouldn't have been classified in the first place:
Congressman Thomas Massie read the 28 classified pages of the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry into 9/11 (the joint Senate and House investigation into 9/11) and immediately called for them to be released to the public:
A bipartisan bill - introduced by congressmen Walter B. Jones (Republican from North Carolina) and Stephen Lynch (Democrat from Massachusetts) - would declassify the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry which implicate the Saudi government.
Former Congressman Ron Paul is also demanding the 28 pages be declassified:
The Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 - Bob Graham - and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “permanent 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it.
Senator Graham has lobbied Obama for years to release the 28 pages and to reopen the investigation, but Obama has refused. The former Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and 9/11 investigator has even resorted to filing Freedom of Information requests to obtain information, but the Obama administration is still stonewalling:
Graham said that like the 28 pages in the 9/11 inquiry, the Sarasota case is being “covered up” by U.S. intelligence. Graham has been fighting to get the FBI to release the details of this investigation with Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and litigation. But so far the bureau has stalled and stonewalled, he said.
And high-level former NSA official Thomas Drake provided testimony to the 9/11 investigations documenting that the "official story" of 9/11 makes little sense, as the intelligence agencies had all of the information they needed to stop it. Drake's testimony has - for no real reason - been classified. Drake is seeking to declassify his testimony to the 9/11 Commission:
I would argue for declassification and release because the 9/11 Commission asked for it in the public interest, my testimony was given to Congress via testimony (oral and written) to investigators as a material witness and whistleblower, because of NSA’s coverup of its accountability for 9/11, and the coverup committed by NSA to obstruct official Congressional investigations, plus declassification is timely in terms of ongoing efforts to reform NSA by Congress and the President.
I do know that my testimony and evidence was fully suppressed and censored as a deep state secret - so secret that it was not included in the classified report of the 9/11 Joint Inquiry.
Indeed, the 9/11 Commission admits that it never got all of the facts ... and many officials are eager to spill the beans about what they know.
Still Urgent Today
Ancient history, you say? Graham notes:
Although it's been more than a decade ago when this horrific event occurred, I think [the questions of who supported the attacks] have real consequences to U.S. actions today.
As Graham told PBS:
We need to have this information now because it’s relevant to the threat that the people of the United States are facing today.
Postscript: People may not remember now, but – at the time – the supposed Iraqi state sponsorship of 9/11 was at least as important a justification for the Iraq war as the alleged weapons of mass destruction. This claim that Iraq is linked to 9/11 has since been debunked by the 9/11 Commission, top government officials, and even – long after they alleged such a link – Bush and Cheney themselves.
But 70% of the American public believed it at the time, and 85% of U.S. troops believed the U.S. mission in Iraq was "to retaliate for Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks."
Only last year, John Glaser noted:
Significant portions of Americans still believe that Saddam and al-Qaeda were in cahoots and cooperated in the 9/11 attacks. The reason is simple: the administration told them this lie.
An investigation by a committee in the House of Representatives in 2004 identified “237 misleading statements about the threat posed by Iraq that were made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld, Secretary Powell, and National Security Advisor Rice. These statements were made in 125 separate appearances, consisting of 40 speeches, 26 press conferences and briefings, 53 interviews, 4 written statements, and 2 congressional testimonies.”
According to the committee, at least 61 separate statements “misrepresented Iraq’s ties to al-Qaeda.” A Senate investigation in 2006 also covered these lies.
Keeping this lie afloat took some work. The Bush administration, primarily Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld, “applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s regime,” McClatchy reported in 2009.
According to Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Bush’s Secretary of State Powell, “the administration authorized harsh interrogation” in 2002, and “its principal priority for intelligence was not aimed at pre-empting another terrorist attack on the U.S. but discovering a smoking gun linking Iraq and al-Qa’ida.”
Wilkerson is right.
In other words, the failure to conduct a real 9/11 investigation contributed to the Iraq war, torture, and the failure to fix fundamental weaknesses in - and threats to - America's national security.
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"And at least one mentally retarded state department troll. Has it gotten so bad that you are recruited out of high school special needs departments now? Hot damn J-TRIG/GCHQ has reached new lows. Science, learn it, unless you can't, then dont."
And yet another comedian.
I already know about science. That is why the controlled demolition story is so funny.
I already know about science.
Yes, we all know you've heard ABOUT science. My 7 year old knows ABOUT science as well, he crushes you, intellectually. Moreover, just because you know about something dosent mean you know anything about the subject you know. I have a pretty solid basic understanding of Newtons Law. Please account for the gravitational annmoly that you state as being what caused the wtc event to occur the way that it did. Then, once you do that, you will have won this argument, and you will directed past go where you can collect 200$ and a Nobel Fucking Prize, you cunt.
You do not know what you are talking about. You rely on what others tell you. Look for yourself and you will find they are lying. I know all about AE. It is a scam. WTC7 was sliced in half by falling WTC1 perimeter wall, and fell over in two directions, with debris scattered north, south, and west of the footprint.
" You rely on what others tell you. "
No,no I rely on what I see.
" Look for yourself and you will find they are lying. I know all about AE. It is a scam. WTC7 was sliced in half by falling WTC1 perimeter wall, and fell over in two directions, ..... "
I did look for myself, but when I watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUIEA7bi4_g
I clearly don't see any WTC7 sliced in half, falling over in two directions.
I must be blind .
Bullshit...
"Bullshit..."
Yes, A&E is
Fact. Deal with it. It's what any grand jury will be shown, and your controlled demolition proponents will be laughed out of court, if not jailed for fraud.
you have mastered the art of conclusion, it's time to move on to logic
Earlier this week we had some visitors (family no less) come over and one of them started bashing "truthers" as nuts. I'm telling you what, I had all I could do to not flip the fuck out but I didn't because they travelled a long way and I didn't want to upset my wife. This is such a divisive topic that afterward it made me think of the anger that must have existed in order to precipitate into the civil war.
I have a fear that if anything get's unsealed it will also not be true.
Truth is sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.
One of the reasons I'm an anarchist.
The US has been a fascist, police state for decades now. There is no chance of that changing barring a catastrophic event. Though everyone with a few brain cells remaining knows that 9/11 was false-flag, the perpetrators will never be brought to justice. Just like the assassins of JFK and RFK and those who have started major wars (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria) based on lies will go scot-free.
Gordon Duff says mini nukes - "Suitcase Nukes" -were used to destroy the Twin Towers.
I hope those "dancing Israelis" live a LONG time and have nightmares every day of their scummy lives.
Nuclear 9/11 Revealed: Theories and Disinformation,"Gordon Duff says mini nukes - "Suitcase Nukes" -were used to destroy the Twin Towers."
Gordon Duff can say fairy dust destroyed the Towers. It is obvious that the Towers simply collapsed.
Wow! that worked well for you
yup your right, they DID simply collapse, WITH SOME VERY WELL PLACED HELP!
"yup your right, they DID simply collapse, WITH SOME VERY WELL PLACED HELP!"
As can be seen on video, jetliners were flown into the Towers. The resulting fires then caused the buildings to collapse.
Can you cite one other example of a building on fire that subsequently collapsed straight into its own footprint?
"Can you cite one other example of a building on fire that subsequently collapsed straight into its own footprint?"
Can you site something that isn't irrelevant?
The Windsor Tower collapsed into its own footprint. Gravity does pull downward.
There's a fundamental principal in physics called momentum transfer. What that means is that if the roof of a multistory structure such as WTC7 falls a the same rate a brick dropped from that height falls there must be little or no momentum transfer between the top floor and all the other floors below it. There's only one way to acheive that: remove each of the floors sequentially strarting at the lowest so there is no physical connection between floors which would lead to momentum/energy transfer loss during the collapse which of course would slow the fall rate. This cannot occur if collaspse is initiated at the top floor by some sort of fire or other structural failure. Its like air resistence during free fall but in this case its a much larger "friction" between floors resisting collaspse.
The top floor of WTC7 reached the ground in the time expected for resistence free graviational collapse as I have verified from the videos. Thus, it must have had all structural support removed sequentially from bottom to top. The only way to do so is sequential explosives removing structural resistence from bottom to top. Now tell me why momentum/energy transfer doesn't have to be followed in this case?
Somebody demolished WTC7 and likely the twin towers as well using a controlled detonation sequence. The jets were a diversion for people who don't understand materials science or physics. The only question is who?
And do you actually think a asymmetrically weighted (by the jets) building collaspses symmetrically? Try it at home using the scale model if you think it will.
"Somebody demolished WTC7 and likely the twin towers as well using a controlled detonation sequence. The jets were a diversion for people who don't understand materials science or physics. The only question is who?
And do you actually think a asymmetrically weighted (by the jets) building collaspses symmetrically? Try it at home using the scale model if you think it will."
No controlled detonation sequence was seen in the collapse of the Towers or WTC7. The jets were no diversion.
The top 30 floors of WTC2 tipped over to the east as the collapse began. That was not symmetrical, as floors were collapsing on the east side first, where the fire damage was. The WTC1 collapse also initiated in the fire zone.
"The top floor of WTC7 reached the ground in the time expected for resistence free graviational collapse as I have verified from the videos. Thus, it must have had all structural support removed sequentially from bottom to top. The only way to do so is sequential explosives removing structural resistence from bottom to top."
I have not seen any video in which the ground was visible in the collapse of WTC7. In the visible part of the building no no sequential explosions were seen.
Moneybots doesn't do physics...or chemistry...or aviation..or world history
"Moneybots doesn't do physics...or chemistry...or aviation..or world history"
Such comedy.
Damn youre stupid. Do you get paid to say such stupid shit?
"Damn youre stupid. Do you get paid to say such stupid shit?"
Comedy. got any other routines?
Dude! Damn thats like the 12th time youve used that same exact line! Im not the one that needs to "mix it up", has your software ran out of lines of code? Are you stuck in an infanite loop? Or do you literally have down syndrome?
"Dude! Damn thats like the 12th time youve used that same exact line! Im not the one that needs to "mix it up", has your software ran out of lines of code? Are you stuck in an infanite loop? Or do you literally have down syndrome?"
I keep reading the same comedy routines, thus the same retort.
Shit, you are the comedian round here.
At least I think that's why everyone is laughing at your comments.
"Shit, you are the comedian round here.
At least I think that's why everyone is laughing at your comments."
Controlled demo comedians.
collapses leave pancaked floors behind, not mounds of 'dustified' concrete. I think some well placed cutter charges and mini nukes did the deed..note the straight edge cuts on some of the lower beams standing in the rubble.
http://www.anunews.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/aa-9-11-firemen-w-cut-beam-behind-them.jpg
"collapses leave pancaked floors behind, not mounds of 'dustified' concrete."
That is fiction, as the Towers collapsed and concrete floors were 'dustified', due to the transfer of energy from falling debris.
If energy was being transferred, falling at close to free-fall acceleration would not happen, due to the resistance from below.
Hope this helps.
"If energy was being transferred, falling at close to free-fall acceleration would not happen, due to the resistance from below.
Hope this helps."
IF. key fictional word.
Video showed that the free falling column sections were dropping noticeably faster than the towers collapsed. Hope that helps you see the actual truth, instead of controlled demo fiction.
During a transfer of energy, there is a subsequent LOSS of energy without a SOURCE of energy to replace whats transfered. Youi are incorrect, your science is totally wrong, a fantasy, without merit, you cannot bend/break the laws of physics to fit your narrative.
"During a transfer of energy, there is a subsequent LOSS of energy without a SOURCE of energy to replace whats transfered. Youi are incorrect, your science is totally wrong, a fantasy, without merit, you cannot bend/break the laws of physics to fit your narrative."
Quite the comedy routine. In no way am i bending any laws of physics.
Then prove it. Seriously, thats how this works. New laws of Physics need to be invented to fit your narrative. You need to prove what you say. Hundreds of Millsions if not Billions of people dont believe a godamn word people like ou say. You need to nut up or shut up.
"Then prove it. Seriously, thats how this works. New laws of Physics need to be invented to fit your narrative. You need to prove what you say. Hundreds of Millsions if not Billions of people dont believe a godamn word people like ou say. You need to nut up or shut up."
Comedy Central. I am waiting for the controled demolition claimers to prove anything. So far they haven't.
It is plainly evident that none of you are interested in any proof. Phony claims of bending the laws of physics are not proof of anything. Tons of debris crashing down on a floor are not going to be inhibited from ripping that floor off its moorings and down to the next. There is no magic to it. There is no science behind the idea that the Towers should have collapsed a few floors and stopped, if it was a natural collapse.
Into it's footprint is just a mantra. Buildings will collapse into their footprint, regardless of the cause of the collapse. The Tower floors fell inside the shell of the building, as that is where they were confined, inside the footprint.
The collapses of the Towers initiated where the fires were burning. The collapse of 7 World Trade initiated below where buildings blocked the view, which makes it convenient for anyone to make claims that there was a secret controlled demolition.
If Debris from a collapsiing One World Trade had not crashed into Seven World Trade, there would be nothing to talk about. Secondly, it didn't even matter if any of the World Trade buildings collapsed. There would have been a war in Afghanistan and subsequently in Iraq, just from the Towers and Pentagon being struck.
The collapse of Seven World Trade was just a footnote to the attack. No one was inside and no one was killed. There wasn't any reason to hide a demo of the building, any more than there was a reason to hide the dismantling of World Trade Five and World Trade Six.
Plenty of building fall outside their footprint. Just look for earthquake damage to see toppled buildings.
How did jet fuel, that burns lower than the temp needed to melt the steel, melt the steel?
What were the explosions heard and recorded before and during the collapses?
What caused the poofs of smoke that shot out the sides of the buildings a few floors ahead of the collapse all the way down until the view was blocked by other buildings?
Explain the neatly cut pillars.
Please explain the phrase "pull it" and why that phrase was used by multiple people to describe what was going to happen before building 7 collapsed.
You focus on the footprint issue like it matters. That is the least important aspect of this case. Try to explain how things that can't happen did, and things that did happen didn't.
"Please explain the phrase "pull it" and why that phrase was used by multiple people to describe what was going to happen before building 7 collapsed."
Pull it is not a controlled demo term, as you know already. There was no means to pull WTC7 down.
"Excerpts from Mark Roberts excellent piece "World Trade Center Building 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 “Truth Movement”
Yes, that worker certainly does say they’re getting ready to “pull” building six."
“We’ve got the cables attached in four different locations going up. Now they’re pulling the building to the north. It’s not every day you try to pull down a eight story building with cables.”
Narrator Kevin Spacey: “The use of explosives to demolish World Trade Centers 4, 5 and 6 was rejected for fear workers would risk their lives entering buildings to set the charges.”
"What caused the poofs of smoke that shot out the sides of the buildings a few floors ahead of the collapse all the way down until the view was blocked by other buildings?"
The survivors in stairwell A talked of the strong wind that came down the stairwell as WTC1 collapsed. There were some jets of smoke that streamed out from some floors well below the level of collapse.
Smokey/dusty air was forced down ahead of the collapsing floors and could have caused the poofs of smoke you refer to. Also the collapse was not uniform.
"How did jet fuel, that burns lower than the temp needed to melt the steel, melt the steel?"
Here again with the fiction. No one ever said kerosine melted steel.
Show me a photo of melted steel at the WTC site. Not the photo of what appears to be glowing steel, actual molten steel.
The only thing that would have caused that apparent piece of steel to glow like that would have been the combustibles in the fire zone, while the building stood, or the debris pile, which also consisted of the combustibles that were in the building while it was standing.
Down arrows, show me the photos of liquid molten steel.
of course if our govt hadn;t broken every law in the book and immediately shipped out all of the steel this would be quickly settled.
Your Tower 7 logic does amazing things. How did it get BBC to announce its collapse fifteen minutes early.
How did the heat energy melt steel designed to hold amazing weight.
Why don;t they release Pentagon video that they immediately seized the minute after and settle things?
"How did the heat energy melt steel designed to hold amazing weight."
Show me photos of melted steel. Actual liquid molten steel at the WTC site.
"Your Tower 7 logic does amazing things. How did it get BBC to announce its collapse fifteen minutes early."
Because WTC7 was already expected to collapse and the news person made a common mistake on live TV. Brady, who was shot, along with Reaqgan, was announced to have died, when in fact he hadn't. Those sorts of mistakes happen on live broadcasts. At your age, you should have realized that by now.
Because as long as they don't release video, peeple like moneybots can believe in magic. There are lots of peeple who want to believe, and the TPTB do not want to spook them.
Perception Management 101.
"Because as long as they don't release video, peeple like moneybots can believe in magic. There are lots of peeple who want to believe, and the TPTB do not want to spook them.
Perception Management 101."
I can see through the perception you are trying to manage.
136 witnesses saw a jetliner flying toward or strike The Pentagon. Plane debris was on the ground outside the building. A light pole in the parking lot was knocked over, as the taxi driver will tell you.
Sorry, there was no magic missile.
136 witnesses saw a plane. Great. I see planes flying over everyday. Usually not at high speeds and altitudes below the performance envelope of their airframes but...
the crux of the matter is whether a plane hit the Pentagon or not.
So where's the debris? No engines, no tail section, no bodies, no luggage, no wheels, no seats. I have never seen any pictures of the Pentagon aftermath showing the forensic features common to all non-magical plane crashes. Nor were any such photos published in the official 9/11 Commission report, nor were there any published references to numbered evidence tags/inventories, as would be the case in any non-magical plane crash. Oh well, just another inexplicable failure to follow established procedures among the many that day.
You say there's debris. Produce it. Produce the Pentagon strike videos. This is the simple demand of the 9/11 truthseekers. Produce the evidence. Oh, it's all been confiscated and classified, all removal contractors placed on nondisclosure notices. So all the Public has is the original/continual MSM assertion, and the government's refusal to provide corroborating evidence.
On to Perception Management 101.
The psychological phenomenon known as anchoring is in play here. Confronted with unknown stimulus, the human mind will anchor itself to the first explanation of said stimulus, especially if given by an authority. Contrary evidence or assertion is rarely powerful enough to change the anchored perception, because the anchor is now memory. When one has a complicit (Mockingbird) media, Psychological Operations specialists can insert false perceptions into the public consciousness by immediately explaining the event, while contrary evidence can be confiscated and classified. The vast majority of non-critical thinkers will accept the psy-op, and TPTB now have broad public support for the agenda to follow. In this case, the Global War of Terror and the Domestic Police State.
We are seeing the exact same perception management procedures implemented in the MH17 event. Splash the false claim across global media immediately, then classify all evidence and investigation. Once you know how anchoring works, and that for the majority of the public, it does work, you will see this technique being applied wherever Psy-Ops are at play.
Assuming you are an honest commentator, and not an agent, open your eyes to the way our perception of world events are made. If you are an agent, then be warned: Some of us know what you are doing, how you do it, and we are showing others. Lie Harder.
He doesn't believe a word of it. He's a paid agent of either OFA or .gov.
"He doesn't believe a word of it. He's a paid agent of either OFA or .gov."
Comedy.
Can you cite just one other example of the "dustified floor phenomenon"?
Why are all the first responders getting cancer? Why was the government hiding this fact:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/27/cancers-among-ground-zero-workers-skyrocket...
Btw, asbestos exposure takes decades before cancer shows up, so asbestos is not the cause....