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Ukrainian Coast Guard Attacked Near Russian Border, Some Killed
A Ukraine military spokesman has confirmed that some sailors were killed and more injured when 2 Ukraine Coast Guard cutters came under attack by artillery from onshore near the village of Bezimenne (close to the Russian Border). This is believed to be the first such incident since the conflict began.
As Bloomberg reports,
Some killed when cutters attacked near village of Bezimenne near border w/ Russia, wounded are being transported to hospitals in Mariupol, Oleksiy Metasov, aide to Ukrainian lawmaker Yehor Firsov, comments by phone from Mariupol.
The naval cutter is reported to have been attacked by artillery from the shore.
Leonid Matyukhin, Ukraine military spokesman, says doesn’t recall similar attack since conflict started.
At around the 1:00 mark, the clip shows numerous aircraft approaching the burning ships...
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"Russia does not need all of Ukraine, just the eastern sliver so the port is connected by land to Russia."
wrong - "does not need" what the fuck is that - take it all - end to end - that was the thinking when they gave Crimea away in 53" - diidnt run the permutations for critical path discovery
the entire coast Black Sea - fucks USA permanently - there is enough distance between the Straits at Turkey and coast of Ukraine that the USA cannot attempt any stealth advance -ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
must then come from the north and cross D River - or via chock point in Poland not a good place to defend for NATO and the Poles will eventually not take the heat - Tusk is a temporary player
take the fuckin coast - let them cry a river forever !
That American war was not about ending slavery.
It was about wider enslavement.
I'm guessing here? but you might be meaning about Sevastopol? Or maybe Odessa? Have you ever been to either place? I have. Sevastopol is so small that anything bigger then a large yacht is not going to come threw the entrance. And Odessa is a Cargo port not suited for to tie up ships in. They all anchor off shore and line up for there turn to unload.
Now you were saying?
Water.
Are you sure you have been to Sevastopol?
The Russians moor their largest ships within the Sevastopol harbor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Moskva
I really wish I knew how to put personal pictures on here for you. I have dozens, of there ships (Russian) tied up in port (Sevastopol). There's absolutely nothing BIG about anything there.
So where is the Russian Black Sea Fleet stationed?
It must of popped out on the day FH was there...
http://flot.sevastopol.info/eng/ship/today.htm
Any US task force that goes on the offensive in the Black Sea is toast. Rats in a barrel springs to mind.
Just a word of enlightenment to anyone serving on a US ship in the Black Sea. You are fucked. What's it feel like to be one of the first sacrificial lambs when the shit hits the fan? Dying for a warmongering bunch of cunts in Washington who wipe their arses on the constitution you are defending?
It must of popped out on the day FH was there...
http://flot.sevastopol.info/eng/ship/today.htm
Any US task force that goes on the offensive in the Black Sea is toast. Rats in a barrel springs to mind.
Just a word of enlightenment to anyone serving on a US ship in the Black Sea. You are fucked. What's it feel like to be one of the first sacrificial lambs when the shit hits the fan? Dying for a warmongering bunch of cunts in Washington who wipe their arses on the constitution you are defending?
First I thought you were just a know-it-all...
But you're really CIA.
Who else takes pix of Russian ships in Sevastopol.
What did you say your name was? Ryan Fogle?
Bullshit. A quick glance on Google Maps will show ships tied up in both Sevastopol and Odessa.
FlyinHigh you and me are down voted because this is a Russian thru and thru website.
LOL, ZH hid it pretty good.
craus; yes you might be correct on that. I see very many writers on just these Ukraine/Russian stories, that I never see writing on other stories. So there are "plants" here or just some "Special" writers that add there "3" cents worth.
MOMMY...MoMMY these guys are down-voting me...tell them to stop...they are suppose to agree with everything I say...tell them how special my opinion is..make them STOP!!!...Make Them STop!!!!!! I'M special nobody down-vote me.
FUCK-OFF you special little Bitchez!!!!!
I junked ya because you think you know the truth. And because you're a three-month blowhard who belongs back out on the porch.
You picked wrong weekend to stop sniffing glue
Dufus, it's the Eastern Ukrainians that are going to get eastern Ukraine.
Considering the Resistance has made it all the way to the South with their latest advancements this is hardly news.
Bloomberg propaganda machine cannot explain how the "losing" Resistance suddenly pushed back.
What easier way than to blame it on the Russians.
5 up votes no neg votes!
Now I know this is Russian propaganda newsite.
Maybe ZH is not a Russian newsite, it just we can see what is really going on.
No free thought allowed, you're either with us or against us!
Post all the free thought you want, just don't whine about the down-votes.
Were you one of those bubble wrapped kids, mom never let you hear another side, made you believe that your opinion is the only one that matters???
Post what you want if people don't agree they have the same right to post their opinion with a down-vote.
Now run back to momma's bosom where you'll never have to deal with life....Bitch!
Hmmmm....it appears that comment is being taken out of context!! Whoot! Do what you want fuckers! Ill down vote it tooooooooooo..>........!!!!!!!!!!
If you are certain its a Russian site why do you come here?
Stop your whine'n about down votes or fuck off this is fight club!
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77247000/jpg/_77247713_ukraine_reb...
The BBC had a hard time explaining the advancements and certainly doesn't touch upon the fact that the surrounded soldiers do have grad/artillery/general equipment that usually get traded for the soldiers life's during negotiations, allowing them to flee to Russia. But if you want to believe that the Resistance is shelling their own homes .. go right ahead.
Here is another point of view of why so many Ukrainian soldiers end up fleeing toRussia:
http://slavyangrad.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/karta_ahartin_25_aug-11.j...
Either way: Russian solider volunteers fighting with the Resistance isn't exactly news as it isn't news that Kiev has to put English labels on their military equipment for some of their foreign volunteers.
Neither is it news that Kiev has been buying up old Soviet equipment from post Soviet countries in trade details that involve Washington DC in turn selling those countries their excess equipment. Same deal as the Kurds are getting.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28803715
craus, -- was you the White Owl Lady in your youth? If you was, my condolences.
funny
if you think so the door is back that way.
Very convoluted dynamic at work as far as I can tell. On one hand, trying or " allowing" to escalate the conflict while staying below MSM coverage radar screen, because any escalation by Russia without US " response " makes Obama look even more confused , indecisive or aloof. Yet quietly Obama and NATO still want to pull some more strings and dirty tricks to tee up a justification for a response- not necessarily in Ukraine, but rather in Middle East. So really don't know what to think, except you can not rely on what MSM or govt says.
you don't get it
ISIS timing fucked them - the sheeple in USA - if there is any eventual problem on an attack by ISIS and Obama is gratuitously going after Putin on the ground - read - nonstrategic / optional - then all hell will break loose
ISIS is a great tool for the middle class taxpayers not having to pay for another fucking optional war
The odds of a "rebel" force, or any force for that matter, scoring a hit on a moving target from shore to sea are very steep.
You and I know that. so does ZH.
But ZH will give us negative votes.
Expect RT I mean ZH to boot us.
You're a whiney little bitch..can't take the down vote then FUCK-OFF !
go back to reading CNN then shill.
climber, -- still a damn good shot with iron sights.
Who hit the ship ZH, ISIL?
The more I read ZH the more it reads like RT.com.
You use proven reliable sources.
Like it or not. RT has proven reliable, and mostly truthfull.
Sadly the western MSM has proven itself, unreliable, and mostly untruthfull.
The world is upside down, get used to walking with your head, or adapt.
Bingo. I read a wide variety of news sources on world and US-domestic events, and over time have compared the eventual facts to what I read and where.
RT and Pravda have proven themselves relatively very factual, and all main US news sources have proven themselves far too biased and off base. Also have found a few good reliable Chinese sources, UK, German, Japanese, and Australian too, and a few Canadian, but I have completely written off the USA MSM as govt propaganda anymore. They are a fucking joke.
On the other hand, my wife and her mother are follwoing several Ukrainian and Russian news feeds and they are completely opposite each other. I agree US MSM is completely biased, however, keep in mind that other countries have their agendas and their media is appropriately pressured to follow suit.
Truth is hard to find these days... Just sayin'
Yup. Which is why I said I go by history, where I read various sources, mentally note the differences, and then check the facts when they come out, and use that to conclude for myself who is reliable early on ... and RT and Pravda are far better on that front than most. It may be that they have to be more honest given their past, but they score well from my observation.
RT is OK, but pretty biased now. Pravda is a joke, the National Inquirer of Russia.
And the National Enquierer of Russia is still more factual than the US MSM.
Hell, the American National Enquirer is more accurate than the US MSM.
at least they dont invent imaginary weapons of mass distraction stories. or imaginary Iran's nuclear weapons programs. Or imaginary Addas gassed his onw people stories. Or imaginary 19 Said Arabian guys with box cutters took over planes and hit towers stories. Shall I continue?
Why do you continue reading ZH? Go to CNN , BBC, Fox.....custom made for your ilk!!!
Leave, please don't let the door hit you!!!
The more I read RT.com, the more I realize it is mor objective and honest than Whitehouse.gov.
Perhaps you should direct your ire at the traitors in Washington before imagining enemies in Moscow.
If you want to calibrate your news sources, check out the BBC situation maps of what is going on in eastern Ukraine with the ones provided by (for example) cassad-en.livejournal.com. Even Nazi news in WWII run by Goebbels was more truthful than the BBC. Its a laugh and a half to watch them have to repaint huge swaths of "rebel held territory" from one day to the next...
If you want to base any important decisions on accurate reporting, good luck with using the BBC or the rest of the US Deep State controlled MSM.
ISIS Air Force training missions?
Those "bearded monkeys" learn fast!
(HEADLINE) IS Maverick feels need for speed - saves captive McGillis's neck.
Bones, how are they doing? Can you save them?
Dr. McCoy: They're dead, Jim! They're dead!
A "mini 9/11" to salvage the remaining skin-head/"blue helmeted" neo-Nazi Ukrainians that are left in a vain attempt to save Choco-Jew's skin...
"Choco-Jew" -- thanks for the chuckles, Captain.
Did I miss something? It states clearly the attack against the Ukie ship was launched from the Ukraine coast, not Russia. Which makes it an act of civil war like so may others these past months. What are the Ukies hollering about?
They've always needed a big brother to back up their fascistic Russophobic tendences. In 1941 that was Nazi Germany. Now it's NATO. Unfortunately for them, NATO are more bark than bite. Which means bye bye Banderastan, enjoy the winter and dont forget to wrap up warm. Brrrrrrrrrr.
Novorussiyan wolfpack torpedoed did this...
Nausearossiya
Interesting observation from this morning: As you know my wife is Ukrainian and her mother is now living with us, they looked at a video on an obscure Ukrainian internet TV channel which showed some phone based footage of a "chechen" mech inf unit with tank support. There was a bill board adv sign behind the unit in Ukrainian and the soldiers spoke arabic.
Rebels show 5 Ukrainian tanks that were left when Ukrainian forces surrended in that village.
The Western propaganda will say that the tanks came from Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhoK1MAGgaA
#Bringbackourtankzbitchez
I just read this article in Counterpunch which blew my mind. In it there is also a video link to a Press conference given by the Military heads of Donetsk! THUNDER, I say! The US should find a way to de-escalate.... real quick!
They and Kiev have bitten off way more than they could chew. These are serious guys, who mean BUSINESS. Compare with the rabbit Yatz, and the pig Poroshenko.... one has to bend one's head in shame for Obama, EU, NATO and the Wesrtern Alliance.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/29/obamas-catastrophic-defeat-in-ukraine/
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/08/watershed-press-conference-by-top.html
From the Counterpunch article:
"Barack Obama has pushed Ukraine to the brink of political, economic and social collapse. Now he wants to blame Russia for the damage he’s done. It’s absurd. Moscow is in no way responsible for Ukraine’s descent into anarchy. That’s all Washington’s doing, just as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria were Washington’s doing. If you want to blame someone, blame Obama."
I can't see too much to disagree with there, but let's not ignore Washington's No.1 sycophantic servant: Westminster.
Watch the press conference and turn on CC
Waaaaaaay too much truth being spoken here to ever be seen in any north american media. It's a fairly long press conference, but I guarantee you WILL watch the whole thing.
And btw, those two comanders are exibiting some pretty confident body language. They obviously haven't read about all the defeats they have been experiencing. Maybe Neudlman can give them a briefing after they march into Kiev.
News Flash: No one takes anything coming out of Russia and Russians seriously anymore.
You are not decent people. That is what you have taught us.
NON-CIA News flash: Everyone knows that whatever comes from the spewhole of Obama and AIPAC/CIA is pure treason.
Another news flash: everyone takes Russian military very seriously.
+1
Also they take serious the armed forces of DNR formerly the rebels who are kicking the Candy Man's mercs asses. Hopefuly, young Ukrainian men continue to refuse to fight for the criminal oligarchs in Kiev.
Just curious... are you paid on a per-post basis?
If persuasiveness and quality are componets of your compenation package, you'll never make the cut.
Staged, certainly filmed in Russia.
Putin himself was, obviously, holding the camera. While he was eating a newborn baby.
Nice try.
Story so far is Ukies 5 or 6 battle tanks surrendered to about 10 Seps fighters.
Obviously this is not the work of the russian air force...
Must have just have been some soldiers on leave that just happened to bring a jet with them....
Of course this is from a country that nobody is even allowed to have a single shot .22 in their house.......
Is that the freedom you putin luvers are craving?????
NO!!!!! We want Ferguson FREEDOM!!!
So you want freedome to bash a persons head in?
If somebody was bashing my head in, you can be damn sure I would be shooting to..
You do not hit people with guns. Period, it is just stupid.
"Of course this is from a country that nobody is even allowed to have a single shot .22 in their house......."
Uh, you are sadly misinformed on that. I have spoken with and traded tips with hunters and trappers in Russia.
It was simply mind boggling how similar in nature and outlook we were.
While the Russian guys were obviously "poorer" than the American hunters (no thousand dollar scopes, no $500 rain suits, etc); they made up for it in resourcefulness and improvisation skills.
Some of their camps and shelters were simply ingenious considering how little they cost.
Didn't know that, I just knew that in the olympics the girls on the ski team had to lock up their .22's and ammo in the local armary.....
By the way elk hunting would be quite a bit easier with a mig, they get to hunt with them to or tanks.....
By the way I do have an ak and it is the most increadibly inaccurate gun I have ever shot....
Sure a kick in the ass to shoot though...
Apparently their migs are a little more accurate as they can hit a boat....
Is it too late to put back Viktor Yanukovych as president of Ukraine along with a profuse apology from Obama and the CIA?
first off, i cannot understand what strategic or tactical use the usa has in openly picking a fight with russia, china and the rest of the brics over territory that has obvious security value for both sides(as it was), therefore providing a historical buffer mostly ensuring no one attacks anyone UNLESS THEY ARE FUCKING CRAZY!!! kinda like the same lesson learned in afghanistan now twice in recent memory caricaturizing the past historical boondoggles dating back to silk road pirate days.
what a great shore battery team. you can hear the guys on the ships looking at each other and saying, "oh! fuck! they are shooting at us!"
putin is laying a trap in coordination with china. china is obvious the economic bad guy and putin is the strong arm enforcer. the usa is the pussy metro boy in a flaming tizzy because no one will listen to her. europe is everybody's butt boy. (yes, homoerotic, juicy on a sunday morn)
the usa has clearly lost it's mind. nato will not face the russian army. putin knows this. never happen over the ukraine. poland maybe but putin does not want poland. he'll let all those countries come back to russia because that is where the money is as the euroasia conduit to the continental world, the historical old world, pre columbian, even in south america, ex new world, the usa.
Damn! That was a hell-of-a-shot with iron sights.
The Dutch government made a deal with the Ukraine government that the outcome of the investigation of doomed flight MH17 will remain secret... That says everyting...Poor family and friends of the victims. They are being hit a second time by immoral and disguting people who care more about geo-politic gains than te truth...
You got any references for that?
The Causes of the MH17 Crash are “Classified”. Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, Belgium Signed a “Non-disclosure Agreement”
The situation is clear, clear as water.
Novorrusian are surrounding Mauripol.
These unfortunates caught a boat to escape but as the compass was broken, they went the wrong way.
Took lead.
hehe.
Gulf of Tonkin 2.0?
Gleiwitz.
It’s one large false flag: from the coup that removed the “legitimate” government and replaced it with death squads loyal to the World Bank and Euro bureaucrats, to the shoot down of MH17, to the brutal rapes of women caught in the middle. All done in the name of representative government; but, in fact, done by former Navy Seals and police (in the name of America (as locals see it)).
Why do they perpetrate false flags? Because they can. They know that the current breed of Americans will do absolutely nothing to oppose them; I mean nothing sensible, nothing effective.
Oh, sure, a few Americans will sit on their haunches and howl; and they might as well bray at the wind for all they accomplish.
You see, Americans have the power to correct any grievance that could be named… and they choose not to use that power. There are two main reasons for this failure: one is that they have no knowledge of such power; the other, that they aid, benefit or were complicit in such false flags. The latter are not worth saving, and we should waste no more time on them. And the former must be cured of their diseased belief that we can trust those guilty to punish themselves.
What could we do with this power? (It is the same power employed by American Founders, an intro)
We could, for example, begin an investigation and collection of the $9-$11 Trillions (at least) that went missing from DoD, HUD and SSA; among other amounts and agencies. Here, watch Donald Rumsfield tell Congress that he couldn’t account for $2.3 Trillion stolen from DoD. It was very conveniently timed. It was disclosed elsewhere that a team of accountants were then examining related documents at an office in the Pentagon. Within 24 hours of his testimony, a cruise missile reduced this office to a pile of smoldering rubble.
Or what about the $2 to $5 Trillions in surpluses that show up on books of city and county, special districts and state governments. These surpluses are held as cash and bonds, real estate and stocks, domestic and international; they represent taxes over-collected… taxes that were not needed for normal government functions. When I did my research on this (about 2000), such surpluses for California divided out to $20,000 for every man, woman and child in the state; then I factored in amounts hidden in footnotes, the “dividend” ballooned to over $40,000 for each individual. See, for example, “Who Owns City Hall?“ and Of Lords and Cattle.
Criminal and useful-idiot classes are convinced they stole this money fair and square. What do you think? In my opinion, it was stolen, regardless of how bandit and insolent classes feel. And I want it back… even if it takes me ten years, or have to chase them to the ends of the earth.
When we consider the enormity of their crimes, and desperation of their efforts to destroy evidence and witnesses, it becomes fairly obvious we can’t depend on them to punish themselves for what they have done. Their safety lies in ever more heinous crimes.
No, we will have to take matters into our hands, as American Founders did.
For this to be done will require a small number of Americans (1% - 2%) to learn the law and procedures of redress, to organize assemblies, and then carryout redress. Owing to the desperation of criminal and useful-idiot classes, each assembly will have to organize and direct a militia to protect assembly members, witnesses and victims of grievances. This is why victims, witnesses and whistle blowers are savaged… there are no assemblies to protect them.
Not only do we have to protect ourselves from American governments, but we also have to protect ourselves against the ALLIANCE among Mexican and Columbian drug cartels, Chinese Triads, the Red army, cobbled together by Chinese communists. There are other criminal organizations included in this ALLIANCE… but you get the idea. Don’t believe me? Would you believe testimony given before a Congressional subcommittee? See, Anatomy of a General Plunder part 2.
The problem is planet-wide. When the dollar, a paper house of cards, collapses, most of the world’s currencies will follow its demise (see Bad News… as well as Anatomy…) Governments across the globe will simply evaporate because they’ll have nothing to pay their chair warmers and assassins. Assemblies will have to be ready to take possession and operate properties formerly possessed by those governments: airports, harbors, borders, streets and highways, lakes, rivers, et cetera. The list is so long; and the clock ticks…
But there is a major problem: Americans do not know the tremendous power available to them: they first have to learn it: they can do this by trial and error, or, learn lessons of Founders.
The English first publically declared their right of redress with section 61 of the Magna Charta. It took them 400 years and oceans of blood to develop reasonably effective procedures of redress. This is the method of “trial and error”. And, with these procedures, English rebels (1620-50) brought down tax collectors and clergy, judges and kings who preached the divine right of kings and thot they had a right to lay taxes on men without their consent; these were actual charges.
These are some of the powers and rights won by Founders, and inherited by us. It doesn’t really matter, had it not been our legacy, we would have to invent them. And Americans are blind to such powers and rights, even tho they lie, literally, at their fingertips (an intro).
So you have a choice: one, trial and error, requires 400 years; the other, a study of my writings and my experience, will take you 2 to 5 years to become reasonably effective.
It will not be quick, it will not easy… but, unprecedented adventures never are.
How right you right.
Is "The Lost Right" still available?
Figuring out the position of a ship is a simple matter of triangulation .... it may be extremely difficult from a single point onshore but its quite easy from TWO points on shore ... man, did any of you get past third grade arithmetic?????
Who is this Ukrainian military spokesman? Or is this person not able to speak under anonymity? I heard what that cunt in the video said, did you catch it?
Basic lesson, don't go near borders. Would it have been a problem for those ships just not to have gone there?
Putz!
Apparently a lot of people jumped Geography classes in high school.
If you're on the beach, the horizon is 18 miles away.
If you climb a hill of 100 meters, the curvature of the earth may give you another 10 kilometers.
Does not need much technology to hit a boat if it is ahead of you.
A .50 machine gun has a range of 6500 meters above the projectiles can reach 9000 meters horizontally is a matter of angle.
In summary, I would hit that shit even with only one anti-tank bazooka.
hehe.
So says the supposed gut-shot, metal-taste-in-my-mouth, Brazilian, geography teacher who can't speak English.
The geography, geometry, and ballistics lessons were downright fascinating.
I'll side with the dude who actually shot the 50. Not the teacher who "would hit that shit with only one anti-tank bazooka."
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
And, opening with the ad homenim didn't really help your case.
I think your entire backstory is a giant load of bullshit. You are a contrived charicature, albeit a creative one.
hehe
Douchebag.
(Ending with the ad homenim is the way to go.)
Minge:
Grateful for the tip, I will return to my insignificance Brazilian part of the BRICS.
I wonder if you speak Cantonese or Russian or Portuguese.
If not, better learn fast.
Can you write three pages with your life experience?
Have children, served Army ever married or working with intelligence?
Do not?
Did I or are you the Mane?
Who's the asshole here?
I reaffirm that I will return to my insignificance Brazilian but, for my part, you were extremely racist clinging to the fact that I'm Brazilian and do not like to write in English.
The worst part was trying to denigrate my profession Professor of Geography, it was the final straw.
Okay, I can handle the ass after all, my father was a political prisoner when you gave the military coup in Brazil in 1964.
Who gets the guy never forgets.
I speak French and German, Spanish, Portuguese is like for me.
This is me just tell you.
Nowhere on that page you want to hurt, I'm just presenting some arguments.
Kind regards.
That's one fucked up beach you're on. It's not on this planet, anyway.
Horizon distance at sea level is nearer 4.7 km and it's totally dependent on your height.
Best of luck with your shitty anti-tank bazooka, cos you've just missed by fucking miles. Cretin.
I was thinking of making him a hypothetical (or real) offer. I'll go out on a boat at 9000 meters. I'll give him an anti-tank bazooka with one shot (which he is sure he could make). On shore with him would be one man with a gun to his head. If he hit and killed me, he wins. If he misses, he goes MH370.
It would make for an interesting 15 minutes.
Putz!
Apparently a lot of people jumped Geography classes in high school.
If you're on the beach, the horizon is 18 Km (kilometers) away.
If you climb a hill of 100 meters, the curvature of the earth may give you another 10 kilometers.
Does not need much technology to hit a boat if it is ahead of you.
A .50 machine gun has a range of 6500 meters above the projectiles can reach 9000 meters horizontally is a matter of angle.
In summary, I would hit that shit even with only one anti-tank bazooka.
hehe.
LOL? Have you actually been in the army and used a .5 cal? I have and I was a pretty decent machinegunner. Got picked for my firing skills. No.2 in my company. No way you can hit anything in reliable fashion past 2k. No fucking way. A moving target? Christ on a bike, lots of armchair generals floating about here.
In any case it doesn't matter. If you can't spot the planes attacking the boats, you'd never have been picked for active service anyway. Get some glasses.
Do not laugh so hard, I'm 52 years old and left the Army in 1981.
CREDITS - .50 Browning Machine Gun
Maximum range 7,000 m
Effective range 1,500 m
Rate of fire 400-600 rounds p / min
Calibre .50 (12.7 mm)
Magazine capacity 100 to 250 projectiles
charger strip-like metal
Barrel length 1.14 m
Length of the projectile 99 mm
Total length of the machine gun 1.65 m
operation semi and automatic
Number of lanes 8 lanes
Weight of the pipe 11.80 kg
Weight bracket or tripod 20 kg
Weight (gun only) 38.15 kg
total weight 58.15 kg
cooling air
initial velocity 916 m / sec
Somewhat made, the limiting current dropped at the shooting range, hit a newsstand in the nearby town (Santos, São Paulo State, Brazil).
Our luck is that it was dawn, there was no one in the city center.
The newsstand turned a sieve, the missiles passed over the hill that divides the two cities.
My barracks was in Sao Vicente-SP (look on Google Maps you will understand the geography of the thing).
It's my old, can not have killed Muslims but know very well how to use a gun went well trained.
hehe.
Youre not shooting anything with a 50cal thats 30,000 meters away. Ever. I may not know much about anything. But im pretty sure of that.
You are correct, sir. What we have here is a wanna-be soldier with access to Google. He's best left ignored. Otherwise, we perpetuate his fantasy.
Wow was watching Rossija RTR debate tonight on Ukraine, as much as I disagree with Russia & Putler, they did very well tonight pointing out how much Obama is failing in everything he is doing from Iraq/Syria to Ukraine.
Looks like a nice empty beach - pencilled in for the holidays then...
When I watched the video I to thought I saw a plane out by the ship. It reminds of a story my grandpa told me about his WWII experience. He didn't tell much but he told me this story. He went and signed up for the navy. He said they did all these tests and made him squat walk like a duck. Then after all that they told him he had flat feet and they were'nt going to take him. Then someone saw that he had degrees in meteorology, geology, and geography. Told him to come back and he was in. He was one of the meteorologists that was on the weather plane that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. He said they were on their mission and he went in the back of the plane to lay down on a bunk and all of a sudden the plane was hit with terrible turbulence that knocked him out of his bunk. He said he then looked out the window and saw the mushroom cloud. I still have the silk escape maps from the mission with restricted code magnetic derivation stamps right over hiroshima.
The other story he told me was when he was on an island over there, Marshalls, Solomons... I can't remember but they were under attack by the japanese and he jumped into a bomb crater for safety and he said his arm went through the rotting body of a dead jap.
I live in Romania and let me tell you, people around here are among the biggest russophobes in the entire central Europe ( after the fall of communism we got ex-commie shit sticks parading as democrats who sold this country out from under the feet of the disoriented )
Even some of my friends who are cultivated and balanced individuals were just brought up with the hate of their fathers for the previous regime in their systems, and I've tried arguing maybe a neutrality stance at least should be adequate but they'll have none of it.
That being said, have you noticed every *major* event in Ukraine happened during the weekend?
I'll start taking them seriously when one of these happens during trading hours sending the sp500 into a nose dive.
Untill then, will continue to BTFTAH and BTFD
Peace!
VOA says....
"The pro-Russian rebels claimed responsibility for the attack near the city of Mariupol, located about 50 kilometers [30 miles] from the Russian border and about 35 kilometers from Novoazovsk, which was overtaken by pro-Russian rebels over the weekend."
The attack on the cutler?
Bringing in the thieves. Bringing in the thieves.
We will come rejoicing bringing in the thieves.
Putin.
Jump bankster jump. The Americans will be coming for you.
I prefer the old days where the kings, queens, Tsars and Fuhrers just invaded and took what they want. This Russian-disguised-as-rebel stuff is all so confusing. It makes it hard to tell who is who and who is invading whom and who is really the agressor against who and what the real vote for Russia or Ukraine really is.
But, then that is the point, right?
Please! Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. We are here today to witness the union of two young people in the joyful bond of the holy wedlock. Unfortunately, one of them has just fallen to his death.
Separatists claim first attack on Ukrainian ship Pro-Russian rebels claim their the first sea victory in their separatist war as a Ukrainian naval vessel comes under attack"The militia have dealt the enemy their first naval defeat," Igor Strelkov, a separatist military commander who stepped down in mid-August, said on the social media network VKontakte.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11066881/Separa...
strelkov is baaack!!! that's an interesting rabbit hole...
in mid-August, Strelkov mysteriously resigned his post as ‘defence minister’ of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic — along with two other Russian citizens who had been the civilian heads of the rebel Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. All three rebel leaders were replaced by Ukrainian citizens.
The most obvious explanation for the reshuffle is that Moscow is preparing a negotiated settlement where the Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine — or Novo-Rossiya, ‘New Russia,’ in Russian nationalist parlance — will be given some degree of autonomy within Ukraine. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary — from young soldiers’ Instagram selfies tagged to locations inside Ukraine to the Russian regular soldiers taken prisoners of war on Monday by Kiev’s troops — Moscow has also continued to insist that it is not a combatant in Ukraine. Clearly, having Russian citizens at the helm of supposedly autonomous rebel republics and their armed forces was a diplomatic inconvenience to the Kremlin which needed to be fixed — and pressure was put on Strelkov and his cronies to quit.
But there’s another, deeper meaning to Strelkov’s fall from favour. Though he’s often portrayed as a stooge of Moscow, Strelkov has in fact been consistently critical of the Kremlin’s failure to act decisively to annex eastern Ukraine as it annexed Crimea in spring. ‘Having taken Crimea, Putin began a revolution from the top,’ Strelkov wrote in June. ‘But if we do not support [this revolution] now, its failure will sweep aside both him and the country.’ Strelkov’s close associate Igor Ivanov, the head of the rebel army’s political department, has also furiously denounced the ‘-Chekist-oligarchic regime’ of Vladimir Putin and has also predicted that Putin will soon fall, leaving only the army and the church to save Russia from chaos.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9298982/the-frightening-face-of-russ...
The gun (or missile) on the shore is going to have a much longer range and hitting power compared to the guns on a small coast guard cutter (it will be a small ship, with no armour, as the Russians, who control the access to the Sea, would not allow a big one in. Imagine the effect of a Grad slavo!
Bear in mind that the Militia now has some battle hardened and trained men now so a decent team could put a few shells on the target in a couple of minutes.
As to the Black Sea ports. They have limited capacity at the moment and are optimised for warships. However, the Ukrainians have done a deal with the Chinese to build a brand new deep water (over 20m deep) container port on Crimea. They appear to be very happy to continue the deal under the Russians.
A road/rail bridge at Kersch is quite straightforward. The road rail links would appear to need quite a lot of upgrading. But this is potentially a really significant move strategically for Russia. It will give it access to all kinds of ships for both import and export Like from their new agri suppliers) and potentially offer economic development in west Russia between there and Moscow. I suspect significant joint Russian/Chinese investment could be made here. This could be nearly as important to Russia as the naval aspects over the next decade.
The events seem to escalate everyday, as this war grows it will get harder to separate the fact from the fiction. What ever happens I can not imagine we will send a few hundred thousand American troops to defend the Ukraine or attack the Russians any time soon. Like our recent phenomena we will use proxy armies, the Ukrainian conscripts, a few advisers and many mercenaries. It is very disturbing that nobody from the Ukraine, NATO or the US wants to negotiate, militarism has blinded the political class. After all is said and done, it will not be the oligarchs or their children who fight and die, it will not be the political ruling class or their children who will fight and die, it will be your children and mine.
ALL EUROPEAN FUTURES OPEN UP, US futures flat, Brent down even as Libyan US Embassy falls & Gold and Silver do nothing another unbeleivable Sunday night open
Gulf of ... "whereever the f that place is". To Woar!!!!!!
Everything you wanted to know about MH-17 and "I don't have a plan for ISIS" or Ukraine -but were afraid to ask!
Great link.
I would suggest, as we have seen Bath House Barry for about 6 years now, that he is a clueless piece of toast, only reading/doing what he is told to do.
It's quite embarrassing at these international meets to see other leaders speak off the cuff, but Leisure Suit Barry has to have a teleprompter set up. These leaders are not idiots. They know he has no power.
It is his owners who have miscalculated.
The latest on the incident is along these lines
The closest to what may be reality is that one ukie coastguard vessel was hit and destroyed by a T-72 tank at about 5 000m range, and what looked like aircraft were seagulls very close and out of focus. The sound that some have described as being like a jet, is a bit like the sound sub caliber tank shells make going out to longer ranges at speed, as normally they fire at target so close that sound of tank firing and then hit on target drowns out sound of shell.
Now, even the Ukrainians attributed the loss to tank fire, if there was any suspicion of an air raid they would've jumped on it.
Excitement over!
You know, everyone could use some common sense and figure this out.
To use the old phrase, Cui bono?
When I was young, 'The Ukraine' was called the Breadbasket of Europe. Ukraine has obvious qualities anyone would want control over.
Russia has a broader sense of Nationalism under Putin it would seem. The Russians do not want to be under the thumb of the Euro-US banking system. This is deep in their history, it goes back even before the last Czar, Nicholas. It also has a factor of anti-semitism to it, which I think is more appropriately termed anti-zionist. We do not need to get into hysterics here, the facts are available to anyone who wants to read about the banker vs. Romanov feud.
The Euro-US alliance has productive territory it could gain under control of Ukraine. By sucking the hapless Ukrainians into their orbit, they could be stuck with 'loans' from the West.
If I were in the B for IS, I would know along with the other stockholders in the Banks that we have to gain more territory/resources to offset the continuing devaluation of our fiat currencies.
There is also the factor of human nature: power and control and its acquisition.
So, summing it up, it would appear the Western financial powers have a decided reason to 'go after' Ukraine and add it to their orbit. Russia has a reason rooted more in history and nationalism to hold Ukraine to its orbit.
I have to conclude in this case the West are the bad guys here- not the people of the western countries, but the corrupt political and financial thugs one can find in any country.
Too many individuals post here that ZH is a pro-Putin, pro-Russian site. I do not agree. ZHers have a Libertarian bent, and are quite capable of looking at facts. As ashamed as I am, I have to conclude my own government has taken the wrong road. I do not see where Ukraine has threatened my safety or my fellow Americans' security. Nor has Russia. Russia has not given any indication of wanting to attack America or stage an invasion.
I still consider myself an American although I live overseas. There is a heritage in the US to tend towards isolation by our people. Until we get hit on the head by a 2X4, we are not going to wake up. When that happens, we will collectively have to change the leadership of the USG to become more responsive to The People instead of powerful financial/political parties who have only their own self-interest in mind.
When I see posts about how ZH is a 'pro-Russian' site or blog, I know the person wring such statements has another agenda, and it is not an agenda of finding facts or the Truth.
Opinions are like assholes-everyone has one. So take it for what it's worth, even my own scribbling.
Carry on, ZH.
Wonderfully written post. While my praise carries little value, I think this was one of the most objective, unemotional evaluations of the situation I have seen here. I hope to see more in the future.
Thank you.
I have a military background including battalion S-2, and have worked for spec ops for a government.
My undergrad work was a B.A. in Journalism. After that, I went to Engineering college, worked for a BSEE.
I currently live and work overseas in special construction management.
Despite the sometimes riff here against military personnel, there are many of us who love our country, just not the current conduct of the government. I suppose many guys in different countries could say the same.
In my opinion, you and your experience provide great perspectiive. I too, love my country but have some beefs with my government. Keep it up!
The US Military and Pentagon have done nothing to save America from this nightmare and uphold The Constitution. As long as the contracts flow and the pro-military MIC jobs are there - life is good.
The Military has been selling out soldiers and America for the banksters and Red Shield since The Civil War including using tanks against The Bonus Army. Hell - at West Point - that clueless ass MacArthur is a hero. He was the main person behind the tanks against The Bonus Army plus Patton and Ike. Smedley Butler supported the Bonus Army vets. Smedley Butler pretty much said the military is there for big corporations which would also including oligarchs/billionaires - just like Kyiv-Ukraine.
Vietnam was one of the biggest betrayals of Americans and American boys. LBJ should have been thrown into a wood chipper.
In the video below - These are real men. Real military men and patriots. Not douchebag contractors working on the incredibly shitty F-35.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH35raTPVu8
I respect these men in this video. America is filled with lying shitbags like General Betrayus. Maybe Snowden is the reaal thing and is an American man with guts and honor. I am not convinced that he is not a Seey Eye Aye op against the En Ess Aye.
Thanks lakecity55, a nice piece. +1 more.
I totally agree with your comment: "I have to conclude in this case the West are the bad guys here- not the people of the western countries, but the corrupt political and financial thugs one can find in any country."
This is so true. If there is one important truth people learn when they read ZH, it's that it is the political slimeballs who are destroying America's economy, it's society and everything in between. Not vast tracts of the American people. The USG does not speak or act for the American people any longer. And it's pretty much the same in Britain and large parts of Europe.
When commentators say "The Americans are bombing this or that country", they should be more articulate and say "The American government is bombing this or that country." Because that's what it is.
I'm never really bothered by those who criticise ZH and commenters by claiming we are all pro-Putin. You know the truth and regulars here do. The criticisers have their own agenda or simply do not understand the thought processes of people who want better for their own country than to be run by political criminals and banking fraudsters. America brought much better to the world.
Any law against passing the hat around to support the rebels? If anyone knows how to get the cash to them for weapons/medical supplies etc. I know a lot of people that would contribute to thier cause - mainly because they are fighting the same people we are.
Or would that be considered treason to stand up to our governments lies?
It is sad that an act of good conscience maybe considered treason or a crime by our government. http://en.voicesevas.ru/
Thanks for the link - would like to do more than rant on the internet.
Seems to me that Obama is taking orders from his banking superiors to cause inflation to take hold at any cost.That means create more and bigger wars.