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Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War
Alarmed at the anti-Russian hysteria sweeping Washington, and the specter of a new Cold War, U.S. intelligence veterans one of whom is none other than William Binney, the former senior NSA crypto-mathematician who back in March 2012 blew the whistle on the NSA's spying programs more than a year before Edward Snowden, took the unusual step of sending the following memo dated August 30 to German Chancellor Merkel challenging the reliability of Ukrainian and U.S. media claims about a Russian "invasion."
Via AntiWar and ConsortiumNews, highlights ours
MEMORANDUM FOR: Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
SUBJECT: Ukraine and NATO
We the undersigned are longtime veterans of U.S. intelligence. We take the unusual step of writing this open letter to you to ensure that you have an opportunity to be briefed on our views prior to the NATO summit on September 4-5.
You need to know, for example, that accusations of a major Russian "invasion" of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the "intelligence" seems to be of the same dubious, politically "fixed" kind used 12 years ago to "justify" the U.S.-led attack on Iraq. We saw no credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq then; we see no credible evidence of a Russian invasion now. Twelve years ago, former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, mindful of the flimsiness of the evidence on Iraqi WMD, refused to join in the attack on Iraq. In our view, you should be appropriately suspicions of charges made by the US State Department and NATO officials alleging a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
President Barack Obama tried yesterday to cool the rhetoric of his own senior diplomats and the corporate media, when he publicly described recent activity in the Ukraine, as "a continuation of what’s been taking place for months now … it’s not really a shift."
Obama, however, has only tenuous control over the policymakers in his administration – who, sadly, lack much sense of history, know little of war, and substitute anti-Russian invective for a policy. One year ago, hawkish State Department officials and their friends in the media very nearly got Mr. Obama to launch a major attack on Syria based, once again, on "intelligence" that was dubious, at best.
Largely because of the growing prominence of, and apparent reliance on, intelligence we believe to be spurious, we think the possibility of hostilities escalating beyond the borders of Ukraine has increased significantly over the past several days. More important, we believe that this likelihood can be avoided, depending on the degree of judicious skepticism you and other European leaders bring to the NATO summit next week.
Experience With Untruth
Hopefully, your advisers have reminded you of NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen’s checkered record for credibility. It appears to us that Rasmussen’s speeches continue to be drafted by Washington. This was abundantly clear on the day before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq when, as Danish Prime Minister, he told his Parliament: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. This is not something we just believe. We know."
Photos can be worth a thousand words; they can also deceive. We have considerable experience collecting, analyzing, and reporting on all kinds of satellite and other imagery, as well as other kinds of intelligence. Suffice it to say that the images released by NATO on August 28 provide a very flimsy basis on which to charge Russia with invading Ukraine. Sadly, they bear a strong resemblance to the images shown by Colin Powell at the UN on February 5, 2003 that, likewise, proved nothing.
That same day, we warned President Bush that our former colleague analysts were "increasingly distressed at the politicization of intelligence" and told him flatly, "Powell’s presentation does not come close" to justifying war. We urged Mr. Bush to "widen the discussion … beyond the circle of those advisers clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic."
Consider Iraq today. Worse than catastrophic. Although President Vladimir Putin has until now showed considerable reserve on the conflict in the Ukraine, it behooves us to remember that Russia, too, can "shock and awe." In our view, if there is the slightest chance of that kind of thing eventually happening to Europe because of Ukraine, sober-minded leaders need to think this through very carefully.
If the photos that NATO and the US have released represent the best available "proof" of an invasion from Russia, our suspicions increase that a major effort is under way to fortify arguments for the NATO summit to approve actions that Russia is sure to regard as provocative. Caveat emptor is an expression with which you are no doubt familiar. Suffice it to add that one should be very cautious regarding what Mr. Rasmussen, or even Secretary of State John Kerry, are peddling.
We trust that your advisers have kept you informed regarding the crisis in Ukraine from the beginning of 2014, and how the possibility that Ukraine would become a member of NATO is anathema to the Kremlin. According to a February 1, 2008 cable (published by WikiLeaks) from the US embassy in Moscow to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, US Ambassador William Burns was called in by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who explained Russia’s strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine.
Lavrov warned pointedly of "fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene." Burns gave his cable the unusual title, "NYET MEANS NYET: RUSSIA’S NATO ENLARGEMENT REDLINES," and sent it off to Washington with IMMEDIATE precedence. Two months later, at their summit in Bucharest NATO leaders issued a formal declaration that "Georgia and Ukraine will be in NATO."
Just yesterday, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk used his Facebook page to claim that, with the approval of Parliament that he has requested, the path to NATO membership is open. Yatsenyuk, of course, was Washington’s favorite pick to become prime minister after the February 22 coup d’etat in Kiev. "Yats is the guy," said Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland a few weeks before the coup, in an intercepted telephone conversation with US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. You may recall that this is the same conversation in which Nuland said, "Fuck the EU."
Timing of the Russian "Invasion"
The conventional wisdom promoted by Kiev just a few weeks ago was that Ukrainian forces had the upper hand in fighting the anti-coup federalists in southeastern Ukraine, in what was largely portrayed as a mop-up operation. But that picture of the offensive originated almost solely from official government sources in Kiev. There were very few reports coming from the ground in southeastern Ukraine. There was one, however, quoting Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, that raised doubt about the reliability of the government’s portrayal.
According to the "press service of the President of Ukraine" on August 18, Poroshenko called for a "regrouping of Ukrainian military units involved in the operation of power in the East of the country. … Today we need to do the rearrangement of forces that will defend our territory and continued army offensives," said Poroshenko, adding, "we need to consider a new military operation in the new circumstances."
If the "new circumstances" meant successful advances by Ukrainian government forces, why would it be necessary to "regroup," to "rearrange" the forces? At about this time, sources on the ground began to report a string of successful attacks by the anti-coup federalists against government forces. According to these sources, it was the government army that was starting to take heavy casualties and lose ground, largely because of ineptitude and poor leadership.
Ten days later, as they became encircled and/or retreated, a ready-made excuse for this was to be found in the "Russian invasion." That is precisely when the fuzzy photos were released by NATO and reporters like the New York Times’ Michael Gordon were set loose to spread the word that "the Russians are coming." (Michael Gordon was one of the most egregious propagandists promoting the war on Iraq.)
No Invasion – But Plenty Other Russian Support
The anti-coup federalists in southeastern Ukraine enjoy considerable local support, partly as a result of government artillery strikes on major population centers. And we believe that Russian support probably has been pouring across the border and includes, significantly, excellent battlefield intelligence. But it is far from clear that this support includes tanks and artillery at this point – mostly because the federalists have been better led and surprisingly successful in pinning down government forces.
At the same time, we have little doubt that, if and when the federalists need them, the Russian tanks will come.
This is precisely why the situation demands a concerted effort for a ceasefire, which you know Kiev has so far been delaying. What is to be done at this point? In our view, Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk need to be told flat-out that membership in NATO is not in the cards – and that NATO has no intention of waging a proxy war with Russia – and especially not in support of the ragtag army of Ukraine. Other members of NATO need to be told the same thing.
For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
- William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)
- David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.)
- Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.)
- Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East (ret.)
- Todd E. Pierce, MAJ, US Army Judge Advocate (Ret.)
- Coleen Rowley, Division Counsel & Special Agent, FBI (ret.)
- Ann Wright, Col., US Army (ret.); Foreign Service Officer (resigned)
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AND big brains: Crypto-Mathematician...
This is the type of people who should be running a country not some popular but imbecile politicians.
One word comes to mind here; "Disappeared"
Good for them. This insanity must stop. Too bad these political puppets who are bought will not listen. Hedge accordingly.
Hedge ??? Just how the fuck does one hedge against the possibility in the fairly near future of a nuclear bomb exchange that could easily involve the U$ mainland ?
These 'leaders' want war. Moar War !!!!! And many idiots think that a Nuc war can actually be won.
Some of them are in Washington, and should be hung as traitors.
spare their lives and offer them clemency in return for names of the people that paid them off!?
Hell no, soak their balls in honey and sit them about two feet away from a fire ant colony with the promise of a quick death by firing squad if they talk quickly enough.
History does show that torture does work. You just have to use more than one subject so they can confirm each other's stories.
Then 536 ought to do the trick.
+42
Torture "works" in what sense? People will say anything, sign anything, do anything to make it stop. Torture is its own end - its purpose is to terrorize , nothing more. It is a staple in Hollywood merely to desensitize the population to it. Hell I just watched Wreck It Ralph and there it was, all cute and cuddly for the kids, all Jack-Bauery-ticking-time-bomb I-hate-to-have-to-do-this-but...
edit - having said that, submitting Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Yoo (and all the other apologists for going to the Dark Side) to torture is oh so fitting
In order to about this in a civilized manner we would first need reform and that will not come until an empire/currency collapse. I'm sure there's an ample paper trail to convict these clowns without much self-incriminating testimony.
Bo, lets offer them this then cut thre fucking throats just as they would do to us.
+1000
No one wins in global thermal nuclear war should that be the case so yes....no hedge would work. However, i was hinting at being prepared with supplies and such. Have an exit strategy, but if you are just getting started with such stuff, well, you're fucked.
No one said we wouldn't get our hair mussed.
Best Hedge would be to Save one Bottle of scotch and one bullet..
How to hedge? Easy...
DOOM[1] index puts - over the DAX would be best because it's so volatile that if there was a NukeEx, it would go to -infty? (not really, but you get my drift: on a bad day the DAX makes the 1999 Nasdaq look like a utility stock).
Plus, DAX puts are always priced with artificially low vol.
Bear in mind that ordinarily you WANT your hedge to expire worthless: it means that the core hypothesis worked (the core hypothesis is that Yellen and her cronies are going to cause Zimbabwe-style inflation and equities will rise at Beta × inflation until they don't).
[1] DOOM: Deep Out Of [the] Money.
Some?
IR,
So true. If that was the intent of this letter, it was useless. Merkel's skeletons are held back only by her compliance with the Ziocon monsters that dictate her every move. Nuland, et al, amongst them.
Let's pray that the German army will be more intelligent. Of course, that hope too, is useless. The Nazis have had a firm grip on the German people even through the post-war years up until now. The power that came with the fundamental Nazi ideology and the networks of manipulation and global graft was too awesome for zionists to just let dissipate. The Nazis live through their proxies in Tel Aviv, London and the US. Merkel? A stooge.
Someone should tell her that being "a stooge" will not be acceptable as a defense when she is ousted, and ousted she will be. There are worse things than just losing your powerful office, Ms Merkel. I know you don't think there is, but there is.
Ask Mussolini.
Clear to me the audience intended includes the German power blocks that stand to lose big, such as the common people. I don't think all components of the US military can be motivated to engage at this point w/o the successful execution of the most clever false-flag ever.
Forgot your bluepill today? Your theories are bullshit. Stop selling them as truths.
really? For starters see BBC doco on Gladio extra national activities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA
Enjoy your polonium espresso ...
Yes, that is the way of the British, after all.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/31/theresa-may-raises-an-o...
Hmmmm.... now where is that NATO conference being held this week?
Now wouldn't that be a nice false flag - irradiate all the NATO reps. They are puppets anyway.
Common sense at last.
And poor Merkel was just along for the ride...
Don't underestimate pissed off Germans.
Germans got the wost scores on the Milgram Experiments.
They need some soccer star with the equivalent status of Imran Khan in Pakistan to tell people its OK to be German again and this time oppose war for bankster profits. Germany's interests lie with Eurasia.
Those fuckers need to tighten their tin foil hats! They be crazy!
<Grabs popcorn> Release the trollz!
Hirstory...unable to discern sarcasm or highly cynical statements. Generally meant to confuse and amuse. Usually amuse. Sometimes confuse.
Release the Crack Hun!!!
The Calvinists at U.S. intelligence speak!
About time.
Too bad Merkel is a Jesuit in drag.
Neutrons are fucking exceptional at killing when in very high concentrations. Leave all the buildings standing too. Couple bright flashes of gamma radiation should really calm everyone down a bit.
Yes - BIG RIGHTEOUS BALLS!
Hats off to them!
But.....will America's euro bitches have any balls (ick, bad image) to stand up to their pimp???
Patriots
Exactly, and I would imagine some have been culled for refusing to follow the NWO agenda.
What's with this PUSSY ASS ZERO HEDGE afraid of a fight mentality every day.
For Fuck Sake you would have us all march to the gas chambers holding hands.
Grow some fucking balls man.. Evil Is REAL and there are BAD people who need to be challenged.
Enough of the Pussies For Passives chant.
Hell Reagan had it right and there were few to no boots on the ground. Just a BIG STICK.
schmuck
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
HL Mencken
Protection racket, writ large.
Practiced by armed gangs, organized criminals and governments since time immemorial.
"Politics: the conduct of public affairs for private advantage."
Ambrose Bierce
"War is diplomacy by other means" - Carl von Clausewitz
"Diplomacy is war by other means" - Kirk.
Go to Russia first, we'll be right behind you, I promise. Or just join the armed forces, they'll take you there for free soon. Just don't expect to come back
Lost you at Ray-gun Ronnie Regan -
A two-bit cowboy actor with great PR and a few die-hard advisors who came up with the StarWars strategy which essentially bankrupted the old USSR. After the failed shooting, there were some gun laws passed, - Ronnie slept a lot after and who knows held the reins of government.
Reagan was just a front man for Bush, Baker, Weinberger, etc., etc., etc.
He had great hair.
Off you go (fiscal) tough guy...
Fiscal Smegma:
this time the enemy is Washington DC
HUH? Did we read the same thing here?
"Evil Is REAL and there are BAD people who need to be challenged."
You are correct. However, the key is being able to properly identify and deal with the evil and "BAD" people.
The Internet is certainly a game changer.
Evil is real - the intelligence we are relying on... meh, maybe not so much.
Could it be Doug, the "intelligence" we are getting from the inteligensia are the one's who are "bad" and "evil". "They" love to create our reality that suits their position in the Matrix.
Most people spouting the Evil Russia meme seem to lack mirrors.
And dont forget, when you give someone 'the bird', there are three fingers pointing back at you...
It's called intelligence dim wit. If and when there is a real threat to our lives and our safety we'll see it, don't worry. And we'll fight like hell too. Right now the only threat we see are the assholes running the World from behind the scenes trying to take everything they can get their hands on (and it's never enough), and people like you dumb enough to support them, or who deviously try to convince us we should spill our blood and spend our money to support their evil enterprise that preys on innocent human life. No thanks. But since you're so gung-ho, why don't you go grab a gun, enlist, and go kick some ass and take names somewhere. Your dumber-than-shit macho-man crap doesn't work here.
"If and when there is a real threat to our lives and our safety we'll see it, don't worry. And we'll fight like hell too."
Yep you're right, no more fighting like hell to "restore the constitution" or "take America back", just threats to personal safety now.
I've been saying this for years. No such thing as "patriots" anymore, just this "guard the fort" mentality now.
They'll get their wish when this rogue govt collapses the dollar and the economy comes down with it.
Provocateur?
Sleeper
I aspire to be a useful idiot.....someday.
Put me in coach.....I'm ready.
The only thing Reagan had was DEMENTIA
When civilized men discover they can no longer tolerate the horrors of War, they will be conquered by those who can.
– Dunnow
Balls are in short supply, evil is not.
That's my greenie, Fiscal...ya looked like you could use a little help.
You'd probably piss yourself after seeing the first mushroom cloud.
"In our view, you should be appropriately suspicions of charges"
Grammar mistake plus the whole article does not ring true.
It may have been a ZH typo. Question everything.
I gave you an up arrow for the typo remark, truly, however I will stand corrected on the smell of the article...
Mind to expand on your thoughts?
smells like psyop.
Like the Hunger Games. A little hope keeps the slaves in line.
This is just a quiet little sliver of hope that it is not psychopaths all the way up.
If you are making the case that there is only one side in this contest, please explain the fate of the former richest man in Russia and leading zionist, Boris Behrezovski.
Multiple layers of complexity really, like 7 billion or so. Each person is on his or her own team. That said, there are competing groups within each social stratification.
However, none of that changes the fact that these people did nothing when they had a chance. This information does not pass the smell test.
You really don't know anything about William Binney. That's clear.
Do a little research before you make your pronouncements and you won't look like such a fool.
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority."
—Benjamin Franklin
Little bugs flying around the campfire.
Little pesky gnats.
No one pays much attention to pesky little gnats.
VIPS has been trying to spread the word on neocon imperialism for a long time. Sadly this will have as much effect as a million protestors on the streets of London did before the Iraq war.
Got Ex-Rad? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-Rad
Which is funny, because in Fallout, its called 'Rad-Ex'!
A historic document. I am shocked. I hope people start to get 'it'.
Merkel - but, but, but if we won't play the game Mr Obama said "forget about getting your gold stored in Ft Knox"
I'm more worried about the 50k US forces in Deutschland and - even worse - that this fake ISIS will do something nasty in a place like Frankfurt or Munich.
They got her Psych Profile figured out (Predictive Behavior) from NSA spying and Psy Ops: She is the classic Grey Mouse who climbed up the middle. They also know that she is a Consensus Seeker, and thus malleable.
She's no Gold a Meier, to bust balls of testosterone - laden assholes. She lacks the balls to say NEIN!
You can lead a horse to water but a globalist is a globalist because globalists do what they do, and so on. Hey until a major figurative bankster doing god's work is brought down the whole thing is suspect.
Merkel has been spied on since 2002 by the NSA and therefore totally compromised. Nothing will come of this letter.
Good effort though.
How about a letter detailing that 9/11 was an inside job?
An honourable politician would take one under the chin to fuck over the criminal cabal in Washington
"honorable politician"
Unicorns are more real.
You are nuts. Where do you think skittles come from?
JustObserving;
You seem pretty sharp, but tonight I want to point out that reactions are unpredictable.
- Germany's Electorate may have an effect from reading and publishing this Treatise
- NATO Power Structures including Germany are rigid, but there may appear a similar paper or letter from NATO Representatives
- Russia is a natural alley to Germany, where the USA and even much of NATO are constructs built on "Memes" or hypothetics... OR Legal Treaties which are squat to real people... Makes Me Sick.. all the money spent by US to do secret operations to subvert democracy (SUBVERT Democratic Processes and Democratically Elected Governments as well as Sovereignty)
Merkel will do exactly as she's instructed. This may change the words she says before she does exactly as she's instructed.
JO: Up arrow, but D'land is suffering big enuf immediately from EU imposed sanctions against Russia. Merkel may be the exStasi 'turncoat' who 'comes out from the cold', knowing that this will go 2 ways: long slow burn to weaken Russia, or wildcard firestorm. Either way, D'land is heading east. http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1405540920.php (other Willie interviews on subject available online, just search)
Getting stiffed by the US on the BundesBars sealed it I reckon, plus the NSA spying (LOTS of spying for industrial espionage, not security) and her NSA phone hack. http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/30/4481670/nsa-spying-in-germany-revealed...
1000s of D'land hipsters on the streets protesting the Fed, and D'lands latent national pride, like Russia is already seed in the ground. Just needs the right watering. Like the tree of Liberty would respond to the blood of Tyrants and Patriots. Dont underestimate the Germans. Nothing would assuage their remnant population's guilt about their forefathers extreme excesses in WW2 than to learn who financed Hitler, and how the birth of National Socialism was a response to the unredeemable reparations imposed on D'land after WW1 etc etc. The history that was 'written by the victors' and post war occupiers, is unravelling, as is the 'system of the victors'.
NuDmarks already printed ready for D'land to bale out of the EU: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/germany-already-printing-money…-deutsche-marks
Peace
I too concur with this open letter.
Me too. And to those up thread who argue this will have no effect on the compromised, captured Merkel, so what? Its an open letter to go around Merkel. Haven't you ever seen office politics 101?
Who of you here has seen hundreds of thousands of refugies invading your city or town?
I have
Let me tell you something
When Putin attacks, and he will, 10 million ukrainians will move to Europe, Germany.
You think nanny europe could handle that?
Absolutely not.
Hence, Fight on that ukrainian/russia border is the lesser evil.
got you beat hands down:
proof - our southern border is wide open and all who cross get free flights to their choice of destination.
Free housing and EBT cards upon request are offered as well!
Only qualification required is ability to speak spanish
Far from few millions crossing the border in a short period, displaced from war
So you want nuclear war so you won't face a queue at your local coffee shop? Flawless logic.
That chessboard in your avatar is, like, a dream of yours, right?
Nobody wants war.
Putin wants to recreate Kievan Rus.
For russians, a separate ukrainian identity actually never existed.
Putin is about to do ethnic cleansing.
War is inevitable
"Nobody wants war."
So first and foremost, you are against the world's aggressor, the US?
You say Putin is "about to do ethnic cleansing". Yet, it seems the other side is ACTUALLY doing a bit of that right now. What the fuck kind of logic is it to point out what someone "may" do, and ignore the fact that someone is currently DOING it? You can't possibly expect this to be a credible argument.
Is this ekm saying Putin hired Vicky Nuland Knoodleman Kagan, gave her $5B, asked her to hand out cookies and told her to organize a coup d'etat against the democraticly elected, but Russian leaning president of Ukraine??
You're gonna need more tin foil ekm to keep the evil mind warping forces out of your mind.
Aaaaaand, talking about nuclear war:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-has-threatened-nuclear-attack-says-ukrain...
Fresh
Jeez ekm, you might want to consider the source of both the hearsay threat as well as the pos rag Newsweek that few know exists any longer.
That is peak propaganda.
Newsmedia makes no money, it's an expense, not investment.
Newsmedia is a tool.
It is designed to generate fear. Putin won't bomb his own russians there and can't afford radiation.
http://m.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang
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At the time of Newsweek's sale, Christianity Today and BuzzFeed published reports claiming that IBT had ties to Jang and the Community. Etienne Uzac and Johnathan Davis—IBT's CEO and chief content officer, respectively—told BuzzFeed's Peter Lauria that IBT has an ongoing relationship with Olivet, but claimed that it was akin to the connection between Silicon Valley and Stanford. "That's as far as it goes," Davis told Lauria. On March 2, in a New York Times article about Newsweek's return to print, Davis and Uzac again denied IBT had formal ties to Jang. They dismissed similar questions from the Guardian (which reported that Davis, in a Facebook post, had endorsed the view that gay people can be "cured") last week.
But the connections between IBT and Jang's Community, a Mother Jones investigation has found, go much further than Davis and Uzac have acknowledged. Thousands of pages of public records and internal documents—ranging from emails to budgets and strategic plans—and interviews with more than a dozen former IBT employees and members of Jang's inner circle make clear that:
Olivet and IBT are linked to a web of dozens of churches, nonprofits, and corporations around the world that Jang has founded, influenced, or controlled, with money from Community members and profitable ministries helping to cover the costs of money-losing ministries and Jang's expenses. Money from other Community-affiliated organizations also helped fund IBT's early growth.
Olivet students in the United States on international student visas say they worked for IBT and other Community media entities, sometimes for as little as $125 a week. Both Olivet and IBT described these positions as internships, and said no-one was allowed to work illegally. Several students I spoke with say they were not told they were interns, and documents from Olivet and the businesses list students as reporters, editors, and salespeople.
According to the Times, Uzac and Davis "said Jang had no financial stake in IBT or influence on the business." But the pair acknowledged to Mother Jones that Jang has provided "advice" to IBT. And while there's no evidence Jang controlled editorial matters, internal documents show him routinely weighing in on a wide range of business decisions, from personnel and business strategy to typography.
Jang sees Community-affiliated media organizations, including IBT, as an essential part of his mission to build the kingdom of God on Earth. He has said that media companies affiliated with the Community are part of a new Noah's ark designed to save the world from a biblical flood of information.
Newsweek is a fucking joke.
Here, let me help you out.
Tymoshenko says 8 million Russians in Novorrossyia must be killed with nuclear weapons.
Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-24/ukraine-leader-new-leaked-recording-8-million-russians-ukraine-must-be-killed-nuclea
Pretty clear who are the blood lusty warmongers in this conflict, so choose your side wisely.
Stale
only ones who would need to escape to EU are the RATS in Kiev
A million Ukraine refugees have already crossed the border - into Russia:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/number-of-ukrainian-refugees-in-russia-clos...
Absolute lie.
If there were 1 million people crossing into russia, then you'd see refugie tents shown on TV worldwide, like syrian ones
That is russian propaganda
That website makes stuff up all the time.
Same as how Bush made them "weapons of mass distractions" propaganda claims right? Or same as how Obama made the "Assda gassed his own people" propaganda, right? USA/NATO has been lying for so long, they are even believing their own lies. You are thr proof.
Bush invented the WMD lie so USA could control middle east oil for the benefits of US citizens and western citizens
Assad has gassed syrians. Thousands of syrian civilians are saying that.
Lies in war are normal
Wars occur to control food, water, energy, commodities
Nobody wars for fun.
THOUSANDS?
Dude, it's more like 3 and you make 4.
Well I heard he gave his wife The Dutch Oven, does that count?
Impressive the dude is still touting the Assad-chem-weapons story. You'd think the organ eating beheaders would seem the more likely group, no?
Seymour Hersh, relegated to the LRB, says it was the rebels. But who you gonna believe? ekm1 or a Pullitzer-Winning reporter?
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
I had a 3hr conversation with a Russian last night. Fact is, many Ukrainians have family in Russia. Why the need for tents, when you can stay with family? Some are traveling as far as Vladivostok to do so (many Ukrainians likewise have family in the far east, read your history as to why). Putin has been beckoning them across the border since this fiasco began, and in all likelihood will continue to do so.
The Kurds believed the gas/WMD story.
Short of that it would seem at least prudent to remember Putin's prior occupation, Colonel in the KGB.
Russian citizens by the thousands will be at the border with food, clothing, and vehicles taking any displaced by war to their own homes for assistance. The Russian people love their Ukrainian brothers and would never allow them to suffer.
Long live Russia and Putin.
O.o
Drink the kool-aide much?
Terminus - answer the question about Boris Behrezovsky, former richest man in Russia under Yeltsin. Is he on a beach somewhere with Ken Lay? Or did he threaten to gave Putin killed, only to wind up hanging himself in his City of London digs??
I did.
But you want to obfuscate the issue with one data point. Are you suggesting that only the elites of Russia off each other?
HA! Border schmorder. We let those people in for two reasons:
1) Suck up West Coast radiation.
2)Suck up steel bullets from Ak's.
Sure are gonna be a bunch of brown suckers fighting for 'ol Unkie Sammie in the Balkans. If it can even last long enough to make it to a draft.
When Putin attacks, and he will, 10 million ukrainians will move to Europe, Germany.
The refugee aspect is an angle I had not considered. It is one reason that China protects North Korea - they don't want starving Norks streaming into China.
I can see the Germans not wanting millions of Ukes streaming into their country.
They are between a rock and a hard place. Sanction Russia and lose German jobs and freeze. No sanctions and The Federal Reserve simply keeps your gold and the NSA releases it's blackmail material on Frau Merkel, the former Stasi bitch.
The worst place to be in any fight is the middle - you get it from both sides.
Soon, just soon. QE will be unwound, Triple Lehman will be triggered. If not, forget about staged suicides. There will be plain light executions of bankers.
World trade is collapsing.
History always repeats itself: Elite kills elite for control of assets.
About to happen again, unless bank lobby disappears in peace. But I don't see that occurring.
QE unwound? Quite the joker.
How about the west just stay the hell out of it and instead encourage Ukraine to settle peacefully with the east? Don't you think that might stop any refugee problem? Everyone knows that Ukraine is only fighting because the west demands it. By west, I mean... wait a sec I hear something outside......................................................
That's a good point, TMT.
I wonder also in the backgroud if Europe is remembering Neville Chamberlin and waiting too long. Seems to me Puitn has the upper hand in preparing for Ukraine the very same way Hitler prepared for Poland. It is essentially to get everything lined up militarily, then cause a pretext and then strike so quickly it is a done deal.
Love him or hate him, Putin is no idiot. I doubt any morons make it to Colonel in the KGB and the old USSR.
If Putin wanted Ukraine he'd have held a parade in Kiev months ago. Your entire point is silly and childish.
"When Putin attacks, and he will, 10 million ukrainians will move to Europe, Germany.
You think nanny europe could handle that?"
Err....10 million Ukrainians will move to Western Europe whether this shit goes down or not. Haven't you noticed its been going on for years already with all the new EU members in order to bring the unit cost of labour down. Its called migration.
Its more tha likely the EU wants a war to bring down that 25% youth unemployment rate - the one they created by embracing the above poicy in the d=first instance.
"When Putin attacks, and he will, 10 million ukrainians will move to Europe, Germany.
You think nanny europe could handle that?"
Err....10 million Ukrainians will move to Western Europe whether this shit goes down or not. Haven't you noticed its been going on for years already with all the new EU members in order to bring the unit cost of labour down. Its called migration.
Its more tha likely the EU wants a war to bring down that 25% youth unemployment rate - the one they created by embracing the above poicy in the d=first instance.
True story: Ray McGovern of VIPS once emailed me to ask if I was ex-Intel.
Told him no, but I was an intelligent enlisted man who went AWOL.
Main Stream Media is guilty of War Propaganda.
That's not illegal anymore.
According to their code of law. According to the rest of us, well, they better pray we never have the opportunity to enforce the law ourselves.
If the news often seems skewed lately note this possible reason. For decades a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, 2013 that taboo came silently to an end with the implementation of a new law passed in January.
This unleashes thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption. This "reform" was criticized by many human rights activist as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/when-propaganda-and-surveillance....
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TOTALLY forgot about this little gem! Thanks again for bringing it to everyones attention.
Thank you.
http://www.heartcom.org/PattonPrayer2.htm
Operation Shitgum Wound is a GO!
This was written six weeks into the Iraq Qar.
"An instructive book, A Quick And Dirty Guide To War, gives an overview of the entanglement awaiting our armies of occupation. Although the authors fail to mention the term 'Islamic Jihad,' they clearly describe the Middle East morass and the fact that Afghanistan has NEVER been conquered by an outside foreign power. America, by the way, is superpower number four to try, and our influence extends only as far as the outskirts of Kabul. In a prolonged, stepping-stone war of conquest and vendetta, thinly disguised as 'liberation,' how many American soldiers will suffice? If the Russians in Afghanistan could not pacify a region at their doorstep with over 150,000 troops, using Gestapo tactics, what makes American leaders think they can do better, using twice the troops over twice the area? Yes, we have the invincible Abrams M1A2 main Battle Tank (MBT), just as the Germans had the invincible Panzer Mark VI Tiger MBT in 1943. But like the Germans, we eventually have to emerge from our tanks, and what then? How many patriotic sons and daughters, heroically fighting for so many American lost causes, will emerge from the backwoods, single-stoplight towns, kids like Jessica Lynch, to serve as very vulnerable yet heavily-armed overseers in impoverished Mesopotamia? "
Achtung! Are We the New Nazis?Good - the letter was written and publicized.
Now watch the wording in the reportage - Fox will have a strong slant one way, and Reuters, and NBC, CBS, even NPR - all telling their audiences the same thing but with different words.
Bring on the slant, the spin, and by all means, the intelligence analysis.
Media Dickheads - watch the wording to see who pays the piper.
Ah, the naive assumption that this letter will get any play on the major networks. You must not know how this works.
Let's just hope Merkel receives this memo and acts on it. Of course, she'll do whatever Deutschebank tells her to do. Too bad Central Banks/Neocons have the worldview that MAD is ancient history. Look how we freaked when the USSR put missiles in Cuba! And we think it's okay to put missiles right up to the Russian border, via Ukraine, et al? The Russian reaction to having the same thing done to them seems quite passive, in contrast. Now, who's the barbarian in this little drama?
who holds Germany's gold? ah, thought so....
More Americans than I thought have been killed so far fighting or advising Kiev. Militia reports have been mostly reliable. When others, even at Saker's site, were lambasting Putin for not doing enough, it was obvious from reading the militia reports, assuming they were accurate, that they were winning.
(01.09.2014)
Loss junta for 4 month battle exceeded 43 thousand people
'In four months of fighting in the Donbass punitive Kiev junta lost 43 thousand people. 27,888 people killed or injured, 1,649 captured and 13,500 deserted or went missing. Losses suffered also and PMC reports operational headquarters DND, on data which is referenced by the Agency Voenkor.info.
Most of all battles lost "Right" sector more than 7 thousand killed and wounded. Most of them were part of the Ukrainian national guard. 1,649 members of right-wing organizations were captured. Battalions "Dnepr", "Donbass", "Chernihiv", "Aidar", "Azov" and "Kherson" and other lost killed and wounded 6,168 people.
SBU concerning the freedom of the residents of Donbas, lost 115 people. 460 fighters lost foreign mercenaries and private military companies providing "services" to Kiev. Lost most of the Polish ASBS Othago - 194 human rights and American Academi - 160 people.
Total losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was 14,889 soldiers, among them 120 policemen. Also at the headquarters of the militia report 25 killed the American intelligence officials, the FBI and the CIA.
"For four months Kiev lost 43 aircraft and 22 helicopter. Among them Polish and Croatian su-25, and six drones. The militia managed to destroy 448 tanks, 827 BTR, BMP and BMD, 37 "Grad", 19 "Hurricane" and about 100 pieces of artillery of various calibers, including 40 mortars, as well as several hundred cars," according to the staff of DND.'
At least there is some sanity in Kiev, I was beginning to wonder.
(01.09.2014 )
The Ukrainian General: Kiev must think about the talks with militias
'According to Colonel General reserve army Volodymyr Ruban, Ukrainian security forces involved in the operation against the forces of the militia of Donbass, cannot properly fight and Kiev should think about the negotiations.
"We are unprepared commanders, we are unprepared rear. Such wars lead to the fact that the best Ukrainians, the gene pool of the nation are destroyed. Perhaps we need to consider and agree. Or it is better to lose such a war - we save the gene pool," said Ruban on the TV channel "Ukraine", writes Russian.rt.com.'
When they start talking about "saving the gene pool," you know they are taking heavy casualties.
taken at face value then a bunch of office workers and old farmers with some prior military experience
kicked the poop out of Kiev's thugs.... humm
And now Kiev wants NATO to kick the Russian Bear in the balls? humm
Well, I'm far from being a coward and I'm not suicidal - so I say "leave the f*cking bear alone fools!"
a candid press conference you won't see in the mainstream http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/08/watershed-press-conference-by-top.html
People should remember that Angela Merkel was raised in East Germany and speaks Russian. Putin also speaks German.
So they have much in common.
hey don't forget that Obama plays golf... "Oh, what difference does it make now?" [Hillery]
According to an article of the German Der Spiegel magazine, which cites senior officials of the German government and the Christian Democratic party, Angela Merkel will be the first chancellor since 1949 to leave office on her own accord.
Such a move would come as a major shock in her country, where Mrs Merkel remains exceptionally popular with voters and it would certainly affect Europe, where she is considered the continent’s most powerful leader.
The article alleges that the first female Chancellor of Germany doesn’t want to complete her third term and she is planning to resign before the elections due in 2017, as she is interested in a new role as UN Secretary-General or President of the European Council. It should be noted that both roles will become available in 2016-2017.
Angela Merkel, Der Spiegel claims, wants to avoid following in the footsteps of former chancellors, and suffer a humiliating defeat in the elections or be forced out by a coup within her own party.
If Mrs Merkel does resign as German chancellor, her successor is expected to be Ursula von der Leyen, the first woman to serve as German defence minister.
However, the chancellor herself dispelled the claims in a television interview on Saturday. “I plan to work through the term as chancellor and then we will see,” Angela Merkel underlined.
Dr. Jim Willie said this would happen a month ago. He said Merkel would resign.
What is even weirder was the German Pope got pushed out for a Jesuit. I have not use for the Vatican but the German one seemed better than this Jesuit from Argentina.
Please elaborate. Surely you aren't impressed with Ratzinger's impressive defense of the Vatican pedophilocracy...
When the parents got dropped out of helicopters over the Atlantic, what happened to the disappeared one's children? Does the Argentine Pope know?